40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

Maybe there is some fetishy Chaos Sister of Battle art

But like

So does literally every faction

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-hentschel-scream-red-face-screaming-ahhh-gif-6194034448995423487

[opaque coyote]

Do you know how many Tau femboys there are?

A lot

[rose thorn]

I’m gonna ring your neck

[arctic talon]

Eightbound have crop tops this is true

[opaque coyote]

I am merely speaking the truth.

[arctic talon]

Lord invocatus isn't wearing any armor on the lower half or pelvic area lmao

[opaque coyote]

[leaden pilot]

When I see post-heresy Kharn I can't help but think that he has long, flowing blue hair thanks to this mini lmao

[opaque coyote]

Just because you're murdering people on the daily

Doesn't mean you can't be stylish

[rose thorn]

I can’t explain with out sounding like a terrible person lmao

[opaque coyote]

Just gotta make the drip jive with the blood

[rose thorn]

And I can’t send examples and break down the image with out seeming like a terrible person lmao

(Also this pisses me off for different reasons)

[celest dome]

Hastune Miku Kharn

[opaque coyote]

Y'know what fuck it

just say it

[leaden pilot]

Yeah that's pretty much what comes to my mind

[rose thorn]

The art breaks the lore like in 5 different ways

[opaque coyote]

I immediately regret my decision

[rose thorn]

Breaks is an exaggeration

[arctic talon]

lore accurate eightbound/hj

Okay sorry

I'm done

[opaque coyote]

Why does that fucking Bloodthirster on the left reminds me of this:

https://tenor.com/view/schmoop-gif-26237806

[arctic talon]

they're all bloodletters

[rose thorn]

But A; sisters dating a guard would like never happen, B it’s so fucking creepy, it’s so fuckinh mind break fetish core. The elegant skin and hair with the blood shot white eyes

[opaque coyote]

god damn terminology

[celest dome]

Wait for A.
Sister aren't bound to vows of celibacy

[opaque coyote]

It's mentioned in the Cain books.

They can take one but they don't need to

And often some don't

They just don't have the time

[rose thorn]

In aos there is a twin soul for Slaanesh, it’s someone sharing their body with a Slaanesh demon. I just imagine khorne leaping across settings and deciding to one up Slaanesh and make the 8 bound

[shell mason]

How's everyone's day going?

[rose thorn]

Really?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

Again, mentioned in the Cain books

[rose thorn]

Cain books are old

As fuck

[opaque coyote]

And it never changed

[dusk patrol]

Jfc finally. I found the art which shows a GK with a dead Ork.

[rose thorn]

Let me check my sisters books I’ve read I swore one of them said they are sworn to celibacy

[opaque coyote]

It's like how Squats are technically still canon, they jsut got genocided by Tyranids

[opaque coyote]

I think it's an optional thing

[rose thorn]

WHAHAHA WHATS THAT ORK HEAD

[opaque coyote]

Like you can

But it's not needed

[rose thorn]

Yeah they live on Necromunda

[dusk patrol]

Big Ork

[opaque coyote]

big boi

[arctic talon]

Khorne is about to make eightbound in blades of khorne as well

lul

[rose thorn]

Fr?

[arctic talon]

I'm joking

It would be funny as shit

but I'm fucking around

[celest dome]

I think it depend on the Conclave they're from

[rose thorn]

The Patrick ork

[opaque coyote]

As for two

Usually mind break fetish doesn't have them about to fucking blow their boyfriend's head off with a Boltgun

[celest dome]

I wouldn't be against it tbh

[rose thorn]

Honestly BoK need like, a new unit lmao

A murder tank bastard would be nice

[arctic talon]

AoS is adopting the 40k method

where everyone will get a mini with their book

even if its just a foot character

[rose thorn]

I know aos did that last edition

[arctic talon]

not for every book iirc

some didn't get one until after

not tthat it really matters

[rose thorn]

Who??

[arctic talon]

Uhhhh

one moment

Soulblight no?

wait

wait they got neferata didn't they

[shell mason]

Ngl I love my boy Gemini on Lies of P

[rose thorn]

Not neferata but they got a monster hunter foot hero for the wolf ones

[arctic talon]

wait wtf?

did I just forget their existence

[rose thorn]

She’s bad everyone did

[arctic talon]

yes

yes I did

[celest dome]

Ah yes, Not Ulrika

[rose thorn]

She’s an outcast but she’s still a. Vykros character lol

To be fair eldar did the same thing

[arctic talon]

best Drukhari Archon mini GW has made/j

[rose thorn]

They need to let us bring vampire lords as a mini hero in each regiment with so many vampire lord model lmao

[arctic talon]

LOL

[rose thorn]

I swear to god if we get ANOTHER vykros character I’ll snap

We are confirmed getting new grave guard though

[opaque coyote]

why do all the Eldar/Elves have extravagant hats

more importantly

where do i get one

[rose thorn]

And maybe black guard

[opaque coyote]

[rose thorn]

We have 8 FUCKINH VYKROS CHARACTERS

My bad 9

[arctic talon]

We should get 12

[rose thorn]

like if we had at least 3 chareacters for every fucking dyansty it would be fine

but for somereason in EVERY SETTING

the wolf faction gets the msot chracters

i forgot vykos have unique units too

well

they arent unique anymore

except one of them

[tough haven]

Can someone help me understand this joke, I read all his eldar books and get he fucked them up, but I don’t get this beyond that

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxqXtoAQGLQE5u7E6EwcFRYLAPzILKX_kB?si=y34HwgiyfmuT1HE5

[storm jungle]

Thats literally the joke

Gav is shit at writing Eldar fight other factions because they always lose or get humiliated lol

nothing beyond that

[dusk patrol]

Shockingly, people don’t enjoy reading a book about the subject getting shit on a lot

Well, most people

[storm jungle]

^

[tough haven]

Ah ok

[storm jungle]

Like its not even salt

[dusk patrol]

Some dorks have fetishes

[storm jungle]

an eldar warrior literally dies from wooden splinters imploding near him

its legit silly

but like yeah not much beyond that they just suck thats kind of it

[dusk patrol]

It’s very easy to make both factions look cool when writing also, it just takes some effort

[tough haven]

I just thought he mostly just kinda didn’t do anything cool with their lore, I don’t really remember much about the fights, which I guess says something

[dusk patrol]

He has some good world building

He’s good at some bigger picture stuff

[tough haven]

I get he wanted to do the whole “oh the eldar are really in peril all the time” angle but c’mon you don’t have to make them suck so hard

[storm jungle]

yeah its just how it is like i said

its whatever at this point lol

[tough haven]

The imperium kinda has that angle, and are still strong

[storm jungle]

thats because they got more dedicated writers

this isnt also a Gav thing

[dusk patrol]

It’s just boring, it goes for any faction where they just get shit on in their own book, like why are you writing this?

[storm jungle]

Salamanders suffer from Kyme

Tau suffer from Kelly

[tough haven]

Almost Kinda makes me wanna play eldar in tabletop to see if they feel strong

[storm jungle]

Dark Angels also suffer from Gav lol

[dusk patrol]

Iirc Drukhari are good rn

It comes and goes in waves for table top rules

[tough haven]

But I’ve already specced into like 3 armies and I don’t know if I can spread myself thinner

[dusk patrol]

I know Eldar have been pretty good for awhile

[gaunt sable]

:v

[tough haven]

I’m not even good at the factions I play lol

[dusk patrol]

But it depends on how competitive you wanna be

[tough haven]

I play casual

If I did eldar I’d probably just do clowns lol

[dusk patrol]

I don't think Harlequins are an army anymore?

[shell mason]

ok

[gaunt sable]

It's not wrong xD

I also think it's a reflection of the fandom.

Since there's quite a looooot of Eldar hate from the same people that go.
'Imperium closest to good guys."

[opaque coyote]

So true

[dusk patrol]

Because the Eldar don't think that way largely, they just don't care about non Eldar lives.

There's not a lot of reason for either faction to trust eachother.

[gaunt sable]

The Imperium doesn't even really care about their own people's lives. XD

[dusk patrol]

I didn't say they did.

Just that they're both assholes.

The Eldar are basically the trust fund race who fumbled it, the Imperium is the xenophobic empire which is slowly crumbling from problems it created itself a lot of times.

[gaunt sable]

Eh. The Craftworlders are the Trust Fund Kids that realized their coke, hedonism parties and drunk driving was a bad idea and left the party to straighten up.

[dusk patrol]

It doesn't change that they were born with a silver spoon as a race and never really had to struggle or earn any of it, and still have a huge sense of superiority somehow.

They are better physically, but thats all do to factors which had nothing to do with them. The greatest time for their race was due to simply being the last big dog standing after their creators and the Necrons destroyed eachother.

[opaque coyote]

Like it's basic instinct to want to prioritize your race's life over some other ones

[dusk patrol]

I agreed

But I also don't think they're good for it or that somehow it makes them much better.

They just lucked out being created with what they were.

I think their perspective is understandable but its not a good one still.

[opaque coyote]

It doesn't really. It's more just basic survival instincts.

Like of course they'd fuck over another race to prevent a death of their own.

And the same thing for the Imperium.

The only thing both sides don't have

Is some FUCKING SELF AWARENESS

[dusk patrol]

Its an inevitable conclusion that neither side is gonna work well together, the Imperium hates xenos too much, the Eldar are too proud and arrogant.

[opaque coyote]

It requires the Eldar to treat someone nicely for one conversation

[dusk patrol]

Even when Eldrad is trying to work with humans he often fucks it up due to his arrogance, and he's one of the better diplomats they have.

[opaque coyote]

And it requires the Imperium to not be xenophobic for 0.2 seconds

So obviously they fail miserably and it devolves into a shoot out

[dusk patrol]

Cycle of violence and yada yada

[gaunt sable]

There's no moral virtue in pain and suffering my dude. >.>

[dusk patrol]

?

What?

I didn't say there was, just that the Eldar are the equivalent of the billionaires kids born into opulence while humanity is more the third world country born into squalor.

Its understandable why they don't have much empathy of care for anyone else but it doesn't mean they're not assholes.

They just lucked out.

[gaunt sable]

The mentality that.
"Actually poverty and struggling are morally purifying and good for you. Having things be or go easy is a sign of moral laxity and failing."

[dusk patrol]

I didn't say it was

Stop putting words into my mouth.

Where did I say the Imperium was better?

[languid meadow]

also the eldar had to earn their right to existence during their birth as a race they didn't just roll over the necrons

[dusk patrol]

They didn't, they lost the war in fact but ended up winning as a race because the Necrons had to lose so much to destroy the Old Ones.

They won out by not being the priority.

[shell mason]

this game killing me

[dusk patrol]

Then they picked up the Old Ones prior empire and the gifts they were born with and took over because no one else was around.

[opaque coyote]

I think what Eternal is saying is

The Aeldari still act arrogant even when it's not beneficial to do so. Often leaving out vital information and generally just being hard to work with. Because they're too busy thinking that you're too stupid to even breathe.

And the Imperium is too Xenophobic to work with. Often not even letting the Eldar do objectively beneficial things. And generally being so distrustworthy of xenos in general, that it makes a Drukhari jealous.

Overall

[gaunt sable]

More like the war was a Draw.

[opaque coyote]

It requires both of them to genuinely sit down

[dusk patrol]

The Old Ones got wiped out

[opaque coyote]

Reanalyze their entire philosophy

And think

[dusk patrol]

That's not a draw

[opaque coyote]

So of course it will never happen

[languid meadow]

the old ones died but the orks and eldar are still alive

the C'tan are broken or dead

[dusk patrol]

The Necrons wiped out the Old Ones then had to go destroy the C'tan.

[shell mason]

That's why they are call us Monkiy

[languid meadow]

necrons had to sleep to avoid being obliterated and wait out the eldar empire

[opaque coyote]

The Necrons were controlled by the C'Tan, and their general goal was to wipe out the Old Ones.

They succeeded, but the aftermath crippled them

So the goal of their war actually did succeed

But like everything

In WH40K

It's a pyrrhic victory at best

[languid meadow]

but pretending that the eldar did nothing is dumb

[dusk patrol]

I didn't say they did nothing, but they earned nothing.

[gaunt sable]

We don't know what actually happened to the Old Ones. If they were all wiped out or if the remnants fled.

[dusk patrol]

They were made the way they are.

[opaque coyote]

The Aeldari technically lost the war.

But they also don't really care about that

Due to the aftermath

[dusk patrol]

They failed at their objective too but it worked out for them.

[opaque coyote]

As for the Krorks

Probably didn't care

[gaunt sable]

The Necrons decided it was better to go to sleep for 60 million years rather then deal with everything.

[opaque coyote]

Yes, the aftermath crippled them. Not the war itself.

[shell mason]

I HATE THESE BLUE BASTARDS SO DAMN MUCH

[opaque coyote]

They would've eliminated the Eldar if they didn't rebel and fight against their C'Tan masters

[dusk patrol]

Also arguably the Necrons could have still destroyed them but they didn't wanna further destroy themselves and they had at least destroyed the Old Ones.

[opaque coyote]

After all

Fighting Gods isn't exactly easy

[dusk patrol]

We don't really know how it would have gone for obvious reasons.

[gaunt sable]

Sort of a direct consequence of the war. >.>

[dusk patrol]

The Silent King was the one who made the call.

[shell mason]

talking about the in heaven?

[opaque coyote]

True

But technically they still won

[shell mason]

Apparently Abaddon knows about it now

[dusk patrol]

The Eldar failed to wiped them out with the Old Ones and Krork behind their back, and failed at the job they were made for.

And then they remained stagnant as an empire, resting in the ashes of the war for millions of years until they made a chaos god.

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, they expanded for a while

[dusk patrol]

Not very far

[opaque coyote]

And then got bored and stagnanted

[dusk patrol]

Its part of why DAoT humanity existed like it did

[gaunt sable]

If you 'winning' is, 'Lets sleep for 60 million years and hope everyone we fought dies and the galactic situation unfucks itself.' is winning then thats sounds more like a draw. XD

[dusk patrol]

Their empire was small.

[dusk patrol]

Well the other guys were all genocided so

[gaunt sable]

Since the direct result of that was a Aeldari Empire that lasted 60 million years and dominated the milky way.

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, the Eldar did nothing but watch the aftermath

After the old ones died

So

[dusk patrol]

They couldn't even destroy the Necrons after 60 million years.

When they were sitting ducks.

[gaunt sable]

Look. If you quit the field and leave the other guy to go on and found a 60 million year long civilization that sounds like the Aeldari came out on top more then the Crons.

[opaque coyote]

I think it was more like they just didn't care

And the DAoT humans avoided them, hoping to not piss them off

[dusk patrol]

The Aeldari weren't the focus

The Old Ones were, the Aeldari just lucked out in the end.

[shell mason]

not really resting, just making have bdsm style sex in them

[dusk patrol]

Well yes some stuff happened.

[opaque coyote]

An extreme for an Eldar is different

Extreme for us is the BDSM type shit

For an Eldar, that's basically vanilla

[gaunt sable]

It took 60 million years for the Aeldari empire to rot enough to create Slaanesh.

[opaque coyote]

Even in 40k

[shell mason]

Yes ik

[opaque coyote]

Extreme for an Eldar is what Drukhari does

[dusk patrol]

Yes so the Eldar even suck at making a Chaos god.

[opaque coyote]

To be fair they didn't intend to

[shell mason]

Their way more sensitive than us

[dusk patrol]

Humans almost did it in like, what 48,000 years?

[gaunt sable]

They didn't jump straight from the war in heaven to partying like it's 1999 but with all the space crack, hookers and blackjack on the galaxy.

[shell mason]

ik

[opaque coyote]

This is also true

[tough haven]

No I mean just make a mostly clown army

[shell mason]

it was a slow burn

[dusk patrol]

Ok that doesn't change how as a race they're the trust fund babies.

[opaque coyote]

This is also true

2x

[dusk patrol]

They earned nothing, they were made the way they are.

[opaque coyote]

[shell mason]

They explored music and the arts until it got dull

[opaque coyote]

I think they're technically evolutionary dead ends

[dusk patrol]

And based off Necron reactions haven't changed much since the War in Heaven.

[opaque coyote]

Like they can't evolve further

[shell mason]

they did the partying

[shell mason]

yes

[opaque coyote]

They also did develop wraithbone and apparently their technology did get a bit more advanced after the war

And then Slaanesh happened

[dusk patrol]

The Drukhari are arguably their most successful component.

And look at what they've "made"

[languid meadow]

the Deldar are able to advance since they didn't lose all their tech like the craftworlders

[shell mason]

mhm

[dusk patrol]

They don't advance, but they do have old empire stuff.

[shell mason]

best part about the Dark eldar

[dusk patrol]

But its not clear how much of that was from the WiH era and what wasn't

Since we know they had super weapons back then they used.

[opaque coyote]

I think you can argue the Craftworld are

Since all of their technology is different from the WiH/Drukhari stuff

[shell mason]

Even after making a chaos god, they found a way to still do the fucked up shit they do, without getting they soul snatched

[dusk patrol]

Its just crabs in a barrel.

[opaque coyote]

Basically all their technology is relatively new

[dusk patrol]

Only the top of the barrel gets to actually live that long.

[opaque coyote]

Relatively

[gaunt sable]

That term doesn't mean what you think it means.

[dusk patrol]

As Drukhari get older it’s harder and harder to get enough “juice” to not have their soul taken

[gaunt sable]

It just means a a trait that might have some short term benefits but ultimately leads to lower diversification rates of lineages.

[dusk patrol]

A lot of Drukhari can’t even get enough suffering at younger ages

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the general meaning of the term doesn't really apply to the Aeldari.

[dusk patrol]

It’s only the tops who can really live to be super old and get enough juice

And also not get betrayed along the way

[opaque coyote]

Also if you think about it

[shell mason]

no that's the Tau

[opaque coyote]

Technically the Eldar now just have the same fate as any other race in the Warhammer 40k universe

Endless torture in the warp

[shell mason]

they just have more ways to circumvent it

[gaunt sable]

Eeeeeeeeeh. There's a looooot of evidence that a lot of races have afterlives they can reach if their lucky.

[opaque coyote]

The Craftworld tech is different from Drukhari tech

Basically it's less powerful but more rugged. Also is much more mystic and shit

[dusk patrol]

Most souls just dissipate in the warp

The elders issue is they all have brighter souls

[gaunt sable]

I've found plenty of contra evidence that seems to show a lot of humans at least don't dissipate or get eaten by warp predators.

[dusk patrol]

And there’s plenty to the contrary

[opaque coyote]

Nah that's actually rare

[dusk patrol]

It’s not really a solid case either way

[gaunt sable]

I didn't say that evidence is non-existent.

[opaque coyote]

Hell even Celestine has to fight her way out of the warp to get her body back

[dusk patrol]

It’s inconsistent, overall I just go with that one since it’s not clear

[opaque coyote]

Basically going through hell each and every time she dies

[shell mason]

oh

[gaunt sable]

Just that there's plenty of evidence also showing that plenty of folks can find safe harbor in the warp after death.

[dusk patrol]

Some rare cases

People like Garro and Celestine and the one Titan Princeps aren’t common cases

[gaunt sable]

Not even rare cases.

[opaque coyote]

True. If you're a powerful enough Psyker, you can create a little realm for yourself

But it's like a boat in an ocean.

An ocean filled with bloodthirsty sharks.

[gaunt sable]

One Guard Novel had some dying guardsmen see like all of their dead buddies they fought with.

[opaque coyote]

That could be a dying illusion

[dusk patrol]

That doesn’t mean he actually saw them or he went to heaven or whatever

[gaunt sable]

We see Titan Princeps get yoinked into the bosom of the Titans machine spirit along with all of the rest of the crew that had died over the Titans service.

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[gaunt sable]

Gimme a minute to find the list of sources.

It was pretty extensive.

[dusk patrol]

A fucking imperator titan princeps

As I said

[opaque coyote]

Yeah true, but that's an established thing

Like every princeps gets absorbed into the Titan

[dusk patrol]

These are not common cases

[shell mason]

Saint Celestine has to literally climb over her own dead body's correct?

[opaque coyote]

Each Titan basically has thousands of people inside it

[tough haven]

The warp is the warp, it does whatever the fuck it wants, sometimes you get to be relatively safe, sometimes you're tortured for all eternity

[opaque coyote]

And also fight Daemons

Grab her armor which is usually rusted

[tough haven]

it effectively comes down to luck

[dusk patrol]

In general I peg the afterlife as very unclear in 40k because it’s not super clearly established

And I prefer it not be totally dour

[opaque coyote]

And literally fight some of them barehanded

[dusk patrol]

But in general we see not fun stuff

[opaque coyote]

I think it's supposed to be like irl

Basically unclear

Who knows what will happen to you when you die

Maybe disappearing into the warp is peaceful

[tough haven]

No one knows, and I like it that way

[opaque coyote]

Or maybe you're gonna suffer for what feels like 10 billion years until suddenly you cease to exist

[paper haven]

It could be.
Probably isn't.

[opaque coyote]

The Eldar used to be able to reincarnate before the whole

Slaanesh thing

So maybe it's the same for humans

They just don't know cause

Reincarnation doesn't give you your memories back

[gaunt sable]

‘They have already earned their freedom from this damnation,’ said Celestine with warm certainty. ‘They are victims of despair no longer, and in death their souls will fly free to join with the Emperor’s light. We must follow them.’```

An Alaitocii philosopher, Nurithinel the Outspoken, had once claimed that the humans’ worship of their corpse-Emperor was no worse than the interment of eldar spirits within the infinity circuit and had been hounded from the craftworld for the distasteful comparison.

Golden, skull-faced spirits swept forth from ancient tombs and reliquaries, rising high into the heavens to encircle the Grand Honorificum.```
```Then they flew over its glittering boundary, and Roboute saw an infinite realm of light stretching out as far as it was possible to imagine. Bielanna released the threads of the past, letting them fall into the weave of light opening up before them. They fell like golden strands of hair, splitting and branching like a growing network of nerves in a newborn life.

Everywhere he looked, he saw the threads of the past spread into the future, growing exponentially more complex, accelerating into the future at the speed of possibility.

And then, an awful sense of separation, of letting go.

He fought to hold on, terrified at the thought of being trapped here. This was not his realm, he didn’t belong here. To see such a place was magnificent, a boon he hoped with all his heart he wouldn’t forget, but to exist here?

That way lay madness for a mortal.

Open your eyes, go home. Live.

Bielanna’s presence fell away from Roboute, fading into the infinite golden weave she had wrought. What Telok had put asunder, she had remade, but such a feat was not without price.

He watched her spirit fall, dissipate, blending into the warp and weft of past, present and future. He desperately wanted to say some sort of farewell, but what words of his could possibly convey the depth of what every living being that now had a chance to exist owed her?

Bielanna Faerelle vanished into the skein, its golden light enfolding her and the spirits of her warriors, beyond the reach of She Who Thirsts. In the instant before Roboute returned to the Speranza, he had a last glimpse of the unborn eldar children.

Their faces were still undefined, but he knew they were smiling.

Welcoming their mother.```

[opaque coyote]

I do think it's like this

Ordinarily, it's a random chance for these possibilities when some random human dies

• Disappear into the warp peacefully. An eternal bliss awaits until reincarnation

• The Emperor, despite being a total asshole, tries to save as many souls as possible. Prioritizing the useful ones first.

He doesn't have a 100% success rate

• If Psyker, get eaten by daemons and then disappear into the warp

• If Blank, uhhhhhh

[dusk patrol]

Blanks do in fact have souls.

But how that works, fuck knows. Since they're still anti-souls.

[opaque coyote]

I think it's like a divergent evolution type of thing

Like

Similar to how Psykers are

[shell mason]

Maybe the anti soul and the regular soul cancel themselves out

[opaque coyote]

Anti Psykers exist

As a result

I think they just disappear peacefully tbh

[shell mason]

Take the sisters of silence

[opaque coyote]

With 0 chance of getting nomed on by a Daemon

[tough haven]

Also none of this might be true, its all perception based

its all things of people who are almost dying or doing shit that can change your perception

[dusk patrol]

The warp is known for its clarifty and lack of symbolism and allegory so its actually 100% true idk what you mean.

[tough haven]

I like that its ambiguous

[opaque coyote]

Dying in general makes you all wonky

cause y'know

you're dying

I distinctly remember almost drowning as a child

and after trying to fight it

I just sort of

gave up

and let myself disappear

only to get saved

[tough haven]

Crazy when you dont have oxygen to your brain, you're brain and thoughts kinda dont work anymore

[opaque coyote]

There is a likelyhood that consciousness could literally just be a hallucination

Merely a byproduct of our developed brains

But eh

who cares lol

watch funny metal man shoot gun funy

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-space-marine-helmet-warhammer-40k-space-marine-astartes-spacem-arine-armor-gif-9266730404172402530

[outer wave]

I actually dunno how I feel about the eye visors being retractable

[shell mason]

do SM helmet always do that?

[dusk patrol]

There's old excerpts

Their visors also go up in older media too.

In general its not brought up much or doesn't come up in 40k a lot and we're only recently getting much media for it.

[shell mason]

tru

[gaunt sable]

The troopers of the Brimlock 11th scrambled to obey, their own company sergeant majors worrying them into position as though they were dogs herding cattle.
Stanhope watched the carefully controlled chaos as, slowly, the individual companies started to emerge. He started walking down the front line, looking for his place.
He passed the cavalry and Ledbetter there dipped his lance in salute, then the artillery and Rosa gave him a wave, brandishing some kind of meat bone. Drum treated him to a blast of battle-hymns on his vox-amps and pranced a bizarre saluting dance on top of his tank. Stanhope acknowledged them all, but his place was not with them. 
He passed Deverril, Wymondham, Ingoldsby, Fergus, Tyrwhitt, Gomery, Colquhoun, still no sign of his men. He saw Arbulaster, chest out, gut in, standing as proud as he’d ever seen him, Brooce by his side. Stanhope did not look his way, though, he just carried on walking. He passed Roussell, who did not seem able to stop adjusting himself. Stanhope saluted and Roussell scowled. There, finally, there he found his company. Zezé, Repton and Heal were deep in discussion. Marble was fiddling with his rifle. Forjaz was trying to fend off his doting wife and children, while Ducky took a few steps and hurled his lasgun away as he always did.He gave a nod to Carson and took his place at their head. He shielded his eyes to see what their destination was, but could not make it out in the light.
‘Major Stanhope, sir! Step out of that position!’ Booth shouted at him. Stanhope turned, confused. This was where he belonged. Carson sauntered over to him.
‘That’s not your place, Stanhope,’ he said. ‘Someone’s already there.’
‘Who? I don’t see them?’ Stanhope queried.
‘Of course not.’
The orders came through to prepare to march and Stanhope found himself moving aside. ‘But I should be marching with you,’ he said. ‘You’re my men.’
‘No, major,’ Carson told him. ‘We only borrowed each other. Besides, there’s someone waiting for you.’
The order to march came and the Brimlock 11th started to move out and leave Stanhope behind. One of the troopers broke ranks, however, and came running over to him.
‘Major! Major!’ Gardner said. ‘I wanted you to meet my brother.’ Gardner held his arm out into space as though he was gripping someone around the shoulder.
‘There’s no one there,’ Stanhope told him.
‘Of course he’s there!’ Gardner laughed back. ‘He waited for me, didn’t you?’
Gardner wrestled playfully with the air for a moment and then turned away. ‘Got to be getting back, major. Come on, Trouble.’
Stanhope watched the trooper, chatting away to nothing, run back to the company.
‘Starting to figure it out, Stanhope?’ a voice said behind him.Stanhope turned around. The man Stanhope had known as Blanks was standing there. His face was the same, less the wide-eyed look that Blanks had occasionally had. His uniform was not. 
‘Major,’ Blanks said.
Stanhope caught sight of his insignia.
‘Colonel,’ Stanhope replied and saluted. Blanks saluted back.
‘Do you know why now? Do you remember?’ Stanhope asked.
Blanks nodded.
‘Was it a punishment?’
‘No. It was a mercy.’ Blanks looked behind him. ‘The things I’d seen… It was His blessing.’
Stanhope nodded. Blanks glanced behind him.
‘I have to get going. My men have been waiting for me.’
Stanhope looked. ‘I don’t see them.’
‘You won’t,’ Blanks replied. ‘You don’t know them, that’s why you can’t see them.’ Blanks saluted farewell and turned crisply on his heel.```

Blanks turned back. 
‘No,’ he replied. ‘We were the ones who killed him,’ and he disappeared.Stanhope looked about him, aimlessly. He should go on, but surely not alone. Then one last figure approached him from the haze. Just one at first, but then Stanhope saw the dozens arrayed in precise ranks behind him.
‘We’ve been waiting for you, sir.’
‘You’ve been waiting? All this time?’
‘Of course, sir. We are your men.’
Stanhope nodded and, unseemly as it was, could not hold back the smile. He reached down to his belt and untied his sword and then presented it.
‘I believe your word has been kept. This should be yours again.’
Sub Pagedar took it in his graceful hands and returned his major’s smile.
‘At your command, sir,’ he said.
‘Thank you,’ Stanhope agreed. ‘At my command.’
And ahead of them in the distance, Stanhope heard Private Heal strike up the song from his homeland, and he sang without restraint for the company’s colour-sergeant was not there to quiet him. And the others raised their voices with him as the Brimlock 11th marched into the Emperor’s light.```

Had to dig, but here we literally see an Guard Officer and all the men he fought with march into the Emperors light.

Including a lot of their families.

Like a lot of 40k I don't think there's any one answer.

Someone's as likely to get gobbled up by a warp predator as they are to see their friends and family and head towards the distant light.

Others might ascend to become something greater or less then they were while alive.

[wintry scarab]

Bet you also didnt know that the primaris helmet has a mask over the mask. The first image is without the second mask on and the second is with the normal mask on. From looking into it, the primaris helmet can split into like 6 diffident segments.

[gaunt sable]

Others dissipate into the background static or might get reincarnated.

[gaunt sable]

We don't actually have any evidence that Psykers all get gobbled up. XD
It's just as likely they fall under the same options as most other souls.
Their just juicier targets and have more power.

Witchbringer literally shows us a Regiments Primary Psyker locked in the warp dealing with empreyean shit until he and the other souls are freed.

(I'd have to crack it open for more deets.)

Heck.

If you want to cross the streams.

Warhammer Fantasy Battle's warp is heavily implied to be the same Warp as 40k's. (with the same gods.)

[arctic talon]

WHFB doesn't have The Warp

🤓

[gaunt sable]

And we KNOW Afterlives exist and the gods protect and house the souls of their faithful.

[gaunt sable]

Scribbles note and slams on whiteboard

Extracted from A Modest Treatise into the Nature of Magic, penned by the late Gotthilf Puchta, Magister Patriarch of the Gold College```

[arctic talon]

whwat in the fuck

where the fuck is that from lol

Oh

WHFRP 2e

that makes sense

[gaunt sable]

Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 2nd Edition: Realms of Sorcery

[arctic talon]

mhm

[gaunt sable]

Also we have the old Liber Chaotica where we get crossover stuff.

[arctic talon]

I've only touched 4e

for WHFRP

so I wouldn't know lol

[gaunt sable]

The point is that the 'Realm of Chaos' is pretty much the 40k Warp/Empreyean.

[arctic talon]

The Warp in 40k isn't nearly as survivable

you just get disintegrated if you're a normal fleshy human that gets dropped into it

unless you're in the specific pockets that are stable

which are like The Chaos Gods domains

and some other stuff

[gaunt sable]

It's complicated :v

But think of it like the far north/far south are like the eye of terror.

[arctic talon]

The eye of terror isn't the warp

[gaunt sable]

There is a LOT of bleed through from the warp gates into the material realm.

[arctic talon]

its just a giant warp rift

yeah

But like it isn't getting into the ocean itself

The Eye of Terror is like a place thats flooded

[gaunt sable]

Yep.

[arctic talon]

idk I prefer AoS + WHFB to be more seperated from 40k personally

like ik there's bleedover

but that stuff doesn't interest me much

[dusk patrol]

A lot of it is basically memes too.

[gaunt sable]

It pretty much is.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[gaunt sable]

GW has been hacking all the links they made between those franchises for a while.

But my point is that we have a commonality in how the 'Warp' works.

We know from WHFB that souls can find safe harbor in the Warp/Realm of Chaos.

And we also see a lot of evidence of the same in Warhammer.

The commonality seems to be if a God or powerful being is the one doing the saving.

The statement that started this discussion was me not agreeing with the all encompassing statement that all Souls dissipate/get eaten by daemons in the warp.

Because we have lots of evidence that the opposite happens frequently.

We have human ghosts from titans to powerful and ancient ships holding onto the souls of their crew.
We have people who find safe harbor in the light of the emperor.

We have statements that some mortal souls are able to become greater or lesser then their mortal selves in the warp.

And others that they get reincarnated.

Sure.

Plenty of people do get eaten or fade into the background noise of the empyrean.

We have lots of textual evidence SHOWING that.

But we also can't discount all the evidence showing the OPPOSITE of that happening.

[rose thorn]

i feel like last wrhammer day was also chaos theemd

but pretty sure this warhamemr day is AOS chaos

[arctic talon]

Yes

ITS CHAOS EVERY YEAR NOW

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[shell mason]

know what

i like lies of P

[rose thorn]

heard its good

[shell mason]

it was a very nice stream

[rose thorn]

i like the twist of fairytales

[shell mason]

coming from a guy who loves souls games and soul likes is something you'd think fromsoft would make

[rose thorn]

i want a darksouls style aos game tbh

as a stormcast woudl be so cool

as a questor

[opaque coyote]

It's more like having a random hole that drops down into the beach

and also the hole is getting bigger

Kinda like this

cept warpy

[shell mason]

ooooh

[rose thorn]

discord im gonna kill you this new message side board is dog shit

[shell mason]

huh?

[rose thorn]

Thsi

guess which one is forward and which one is reply

[rose thorn]

anyway yeah AOS is the perfect setting for a game like that. Questor can use any weapon they have, they go on a quest even they might know

what the goal is

you can get blessings or maybe use memories for upgrades

and you have a built in respawn system

[shell mason]

Left reply right forward

[rose thorn]

i know you checked

[shell mason]

no

I didn't

I just know the symbols

[crystal forum]

hand reveal 🥵

[rose thorn]

de

[shell mason]

Gay jay stop being weird

reminds me of the dude I met that told me I had nice thighs

[shell mason]

sounds like kingsfield

[rose thorn]

never played

[opaque coyote]

I got a question

What is a guilty pleasure for you

Something you enjoy despite it being total dogshit

Personally, and I am gonna be crucified for this

Sonic.exe

Enjoyed it even before it got a fucking FnF mod

[crystal forum]

admiring people's hands

[opaque coyote]

Yoshikage Kira, is that you?

Why do I suddenly have a heada

[languid meadow]

this forwarding system is

interesting

[languid meadow]

(It sucks ass)

[crystal forum]

i'm sending negative energy

[arctic talon]

Objectively dogshit game

literally not meant for humans to play/hj

but its really fun

[opaque coyote]

Heard about that

It's not well liked in the fighter community I believe

[arctic talon]

this is my other trashy fighting game

[opaque coyote]

If we're talking about Guilty Pleasure Video Games.

Halo 4 and Sonic Heroes are also guilty pleasures.

[arctic talon]

its well loved

in like

the this is the worst thing ever

I love it

The game is objectively horribly balanced

and full of jank

[opaque coyote]

Awesome

[arctic talon]

its also obscenely strict with input timings

every character has an infinite combo as well

Similar to UMVC3 except that game is way less janky

and from a technical standpoint isn't dogshit

MVC2 is entierly reused assets lol

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

infinite combos in fighting games are hilarious

let no one tell you otherwise

[arctic talon]

best fighting game combo guide in the history of fighting games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpYdEjvAg3k

[opaque coyote]

So judging by this

Every fight would be decided by the first person to do an infinite combo

[arctic talon]

no

because they're all

absurdly technical lol

unlike UMVC3

[opaque coyote]

Gaming

[arctic talon]

where infinites are pretty easy to do

but every character in MVC2 can end the round in a single combo if you're good enough

[opaque coyote]

That sounds awful

[arctic talon]

Its awful

I love it

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

for a game that isn't full of infinites and bugs but is a dogshit fighting game for other reasons

[opaque coyote]

Reminds of like western shoot out duels

[arctic talon]

Blazblue Crosstag lol

terribly balanced

full of jank and odd move lists

[opaque coyote]

"FIRST PERSON TO DO A JANKY COMBO WINS"

[arctic talon]

and since 99% of the characters

are from an anime fighter

its fucking deranged

because their movelists are almost unchanged

[opaque coyote]

So basically

It's a game of Mugen

[arctic talon]

nah

[shell mason]

I havent played mvc in a while

only tekken

[arctic talon]

Mugen is way more unhinged lol

[shell mason]

oh ik

[arctic talon]

but Blazblue Crosstag has some deranged ass characters

Adachi in that game is the first every fighting game character I can confidently say

is a grappler, zoner, rushdown, puppet character hybrid

[opaque coyote]

I never really got into fighting games

[arctic talon]

Adachi has a full screen lingering projectile

[opaque coyote]

Two reasons why are:

A) Learning curve too big and I suck a lot

[arctic talon]

he has a command grab thats used as a combo starter or ender

he has a puppet

and he wants to get in your face and has the tools to do so

[opaque coyote]

B) I hate remembering combos

[shell mason]

you got it xbox?

[arctic talon]

Nah

PC

[opaque coyote]

"Yes you have to do this in a specific combination"

[shell mason]

damn

[opaque coyote]

"Within 0.02 seconds"

Why

[shell mason]

got it on the xbox app

[arctic talon]

my favorite part of adachi is uh

the fact he can combo into his instant kill

making his supers into specials and normals in that game was a choice they certinly made

downside to playing adachi is he's an incel

[shell mason]

Using King til the day i die

[arctic talon]

King is so fucking funny lol

I love grapplers so much

but I can't play them

I'm way too impatient

[shell mason]

Oh i love doing his grapple so fucking much

[arctic talon]

king is hilarious

I'm not sure why people hate him so much lol

[outer wave]

You more of a rush down player?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[shell mason]

They don't know how to escape his grabs

[arctic talon]

I like characters who are Rushdown or who have good oki

either or

[arctic talon]

[shell mason]

even though it's just mash 2

[rose thorn]

mm, thats a hard one, like stormcasts would be the easy call

and kruleboyz

two of my favoirte warhammer factions

[shell mason]

I'm a slut for candy corn

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f1ViE-kS2g Destiny 2 lore guy is moving to 40k lore it seems

[shell mason]

that's good, money moves

[outer wave]

Yuh

[shell mason]

That or I'm love your only move is hustle

[languid meadow]

My name is byf is peak

[outer wave]

So I hear

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/nYKLdj7J7_Q?si=eWXyJzG8bpD-lFsh

[thick cedar]

I remember reading a bit from like the OG lore and it said something like Space Marines ate like a cocktail of shit mixed with other stuff and were basically Ogryn.

Is that right or am i completely misrememebring that

[outer wave]

Thats like an old OLD novel IIRC

Guy that wrote is is apparently a lil nutty (not sure how true that is but he did write the shit drink thing)

[arctic talon]

That book is no longer canon and yes it was real. The book is called space marine and the author is Ian Watson

[languid meadow]

ah yes Ian watson

the premier fetish slop writer

[rose thorn]

I wish endless universe had like, an insanely devoted lore community like other games

[shell mason]

yo

feeling in a drawing mood

give me character to draw

[green loom]

Jaq Draco

[green loom]

Hey! That's classic art!

[shell mason]

who

[green loom]

[shell mason]

bro yk me

I need reference material

[languid meadow]

Kind of reminds me of kane from C&C

[shell mason]

I see it

[gaunt sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vrnn2uOj6w

[languid meadow]

sweet an invicta video

always enjoyed them

[rose thorn]

Hey chat, what’s your opinion is the most over rated thing in warhammer 40k

[dusk patrol]

Tyberos

[rose thorn]

Corpse starch is up there, it’s big in Necromunda lore but isn’t a thing in 40k lore

[dusk patrol]

Rylanor

[rose thorn]

True and true

[opaque coyote]

Hmmmmm

Black Templars

Like they're cool but

Eh

[rose thorn]

I really wanna like blood angels but they don’t really go full in on an identity

[opaque coyote]

Oh also Matt Ward. Although that's more overhated.

People still hung up on him which is funny

In a sad way

[rose thorn]

It has like what, 5 sub sections besides the usually space marine stuff?

[queen laurel]

Krieg

and Space marines

[opaque coyote]

Angels and Vampires?

[queen laurel]

i like marines but sometimes they are so overrated

[rose thorn]

You got the black rage guys, the golden guys, the vanilla vampire guys, the psyker guys

Since psykers are really big in BA because 1k sons gave them psyker crap

[opaque coyote]

I think everyone can agree that

We need more Xenos book

Preferably with

Decent writing

[rose thorn]

Shame 90% of them are bad </3

[queen laurel]

yeah

it's almost always the imperium's POV

[rose thorn]

Eldar need a good book lol

[opaque coyote]

The Aeldari when they realize that they're gonna be written by Gav Thrope:

[queen laurel]

no now enjoy your Gav Thorpe Books

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-gif-11242683397767497522

[rose thorn]

If they had 1 good book I’d probably like eldar

[opaque coyote]

I mean Infinite and Divine shows that people do really want well written Xenos books

[queen laurel]

You read Aos Books right

[rose thorn]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

The problem is that there are few well written Xeno books

[rose thorn]

Non human books are usually really good

Gloomspite have like 3 books and 1 of them is really really bad

[queen laurel]

is this a good beginner book

[opaque coyote]

Like the fucking entire Ynnari side plot basically got frozen because the books were ass

And nobody was buying them cause of that

[rose thorn]

OOOO HE WROTE CURSED CITY! Yes

AND LADY OF SORROW

[opaque coyote]

I genuinely feel bad for the

Two Ynnari fans out there

[rose thorn]

AND BEASTGRAVE?!

[rose thorn]

Oh is this a short story?

[queen laurel]

I also have these

Fury of Gork is the only story I know that has an iron jaw on it so if you have some of those toss it might be

[rose thorn]

There is a story for every faction in the ‘yadda yadda and other stories’

That’s a great starting point

What factions do you wanna read?

[queen laurel]

Iron jawz

i literally have the realm gate wars copy for fury of gork

[rose thorn]

Kragnos

[queen laurel]

this?

[rose thorn]

He’s

Yes

It’s really good

And it’s a good story about identity

[queen laurel]

oh yeah can you tell me about the gloom spite ones

[rose thorn]

Gloomspite = amazing 10/10 read

Bad loon rising was written by Andy Clark (bad)

[queen laurel]

i already have a audio drama for the Gargants

so the only one left are ogres

any books about them?

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah also on an off topic tangent

[rose thorn]

A lot of short stories

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/sU8mj9lid0s?si=Crf6WqLo2KfOn_St

[queen laurel]

show me some

[rose thorn]

Strong bones is good

They have a lot of underworlds stories

I highly suggest just reading all the underworlds short stories they are wonderful would building

They are an antagonist of a grom book

But it’s meh

Good book for ogors but it’s a flawed series

[queen laurel]

i see

[rose thorn]

It’s about an old world dwarf

[queen laurel]

strong bones for ogres

right?

[rose thorn]

Yes

Ogors will probably get a good book with their refresh this edition

[queen laurel]

do Gargants have books?

[rose thorn]

Yesss and a good one

[queen laurel]

The only gargant content I have is an audio drama which can be fun but it's really something I hate to listen to everyone

[queen laurel]

aigh shoot

what is it called

[queen laurel]

that's the Audio Drama

[rose thorn]

Oh

I swore to god there was a king brodd book

Holy shit what a good model

[queen laurel]

well this is good aight thanks

[rose thorn]

No problem :3

[queen laurel]

i can just go ahead and read these

finally i have books collecting every single faction

[rose thorn]

There is probably another book I’ll have to dig

It might be a legends book

[queen laurel]

for Destruction

[rose thorn]

Oh read any book about excelsis

[queen laurel]

do kruleboyz appear in Kragnos

[rose thorn]

Yes but barley, they are a major villian in dominion

[queen laurel]

i see

[rose thorn]

Oh and yndrasta

[queen laurel]

the celestial spear lady?

[rose thorn]

Us

Yes

DONT LISTEN TO THE AUDIOBOOK

ITS A BRITISH LADY PRETENDING TO DO A NATIVE AMERICAN ACCENT

If you lived near them for long enough

The fake accent hurts a lot

[queen laurel]

WOAH CHILL

I don't like listening to audio books because my brain works off of being a violent Ork but thank you for the warning i definitely definitely will avoid that now

[rose thorn]

It’s a good story the audiobook is just hell

[queen laurel]

yeah i read mostly

i listen to very few audio stuff

[rose thorn]

Oh salamanders are overrated as shit too

[opaque coyote]

A WARHAMMER FAN??

READING????

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE!

[queen laurel]

You better shut up before I punt your ass off this damn cliff

[opaque coyote]

YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM POORLY RESEARCHED TIKTOKS

AND YOUTUBE SHORT MEMES ABOUT A QUOTE OUT OF CONTEXT

[queen laurel]

what the fuck do you think i am a roman larper?

hell no

[rose thorn]

ALSO GW PLS RELEASE STORMCASTS IM TIRED OF WIATING

FUCK BA AAAAA

[queen laurel]

the sheep realizing that his ice cream fell off a cliff

[rose thorn]

jjahqhahjJjhahdhs

[opaque coyote]

I mean technically isn't that just being an Ultramarine

[rose thorn]

Ultramarines are more pre Christian Rome

[opaque coyote]

Actually I kinda wish the Ultramarines embraced the Roman aesthetic a bit more

Where the fuck are their spears?

[rose thorn]

The emperor’s spears

Who are an ultramarine successor

[opaque coyote]

The funniest part is that I don't think they use spears either

But lemme double check

[rose thorn]

They do

[queen laurel]

i bet you feel dumb right now

[opaque coyote]

Extremely so

I thought that was a sword at a weird angle

[queen laurel]

bro your brain is cooked

[opaque coyote]

Definitely

[rose thorn]

(The official kitbash guide video on the warhammer YouTube channel says to just put a sword head on a stick so you aren’t wrong)

[opaque coyote]

Art goes hard as fuck though

[opaque coyote]

💀

Unintentionally correct is the best kind of corre-

[opaque coyote]

Also checking Lexicanium, they have no spear relics which is

Disappointing

Maybe their official rulebook has it idk

[opaque coyote]

Actually you know what

That's my new headcanon

There are so few spears in the Imperium that the Emperor's Spears have to shove a power sword into a longer stick

And call it a spear

[dusk patrol]

They're a one off chapter made for an ADB book.

Spears are an extremely common Astartes weapon.

[rose thorn]

Why does all the Minotaurs art look like fan art

[rose thorn]

OH THIS IS A REFERENCE

I was so confused lmao

[dusk patrol]

Yep

[opaque coyote]

Except for the directly pre-christain Roman inspired chapter.

My disappointment is immeasurable

And my day is rui-

Jk

[dusk patrol]

I’m pretty sure even they use them

[rose thorn]

Yeah, I think it’s an HH unit

[opaque coyote]

Also I genuinely can't tell if Tu'Shan(?) using a spear. The artwork is genuinely so messy that I can't tell

I mean it looks cool but I genuinely can't tell if he's using one

Either that or it's me being blind again

[dusk patrol]

It’s He’stan

You fucking normie

[rose thorn]

[opaque coyote]

Guess I'll die

[rose thorn]

Sorry that’s my natural reaction to remembering salamanders have like 20 characters

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-gif-11242683397767497522

[rose thorn]

For some reason

[opaque coyote]

Spear looks sick tho

I always like the Salamanders flame motif

[dusk patrol]

So you’re telling me you think all the salamanders look the same?

[opaque coyote]

Gotta love FIREE

[dusk patrol]

[rose thorn]

No

They hold different weapons

[dusk patrol]

Oh I see, so the other chapters you don’t have an issue, but once you get to the Salamanders

[rose thorn]

Salamanders just make me have a volatile reaction

[dusk patrol]

Interesting

[rose thorn]

I openly hate space wolves and black Templars

[opaque coyote]

"Despite only making up only 13% of the Space Marine population, the Salamanders-"

[dusk patrol]

Would you say this reaction is something you would feel if say, a Salamander cut you off on the highway

[rose thorn]

hahwhhehahsAHHAHHA

[rose thorn]

I don’t drive >:3

[dusk patrol]

Probably because of fear of “Salamanders”

[opaque coyote]

People who cut people off in high ways can go fuck themselves

[dusk patrol]

Not wrong

[rose thorn]

Salamanders just have some of the worst lore

Next to space wolves

Fucking healing herbs nano machines

[dusk patrol]

Space Wolf lore isn’t anywhere close to as bad as Salamander lore

[opaque coyote]

I need to read up more on the Salamanders tbh

[rose thorn]

[opaque coyote]

I know that they have some bullshit

[rose thorn]

Counter argument, wolftime

[dusk patrol]

Counter argument, literally all of Salamander lore

[rose thorn]

Counter counter argument, both are bad

[dusk patrol]

Every single book which is focused around them

[opaque coyote]

My characters when a person wearing a straightjacket babbles actual nonsense at them:

[dusk patrol]

Space Wolves have plenty of good books

[rose thorn]

Like?

[opaque coyote]

Wrong fucking gif why is that there

[dusk patrol]

The Ragnar series is good, Lukas, Blood of Asaheim

Prospero Burns, Wolfsbane

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/darkest-dungeon-hopeless-plague-doctor-gif-13347468273539957889

There

[rose thorn]

Yeha but that involve reading a space wolf book

[dusk patrol]

It helps if you’re able to read in the first place

[rose thorn]

Space wolves can’t

[opaque coyote]

Unlike the Space Wolves

[rose thorn]

And neither does their players

[opaque coyote]

Huh

[opaque coyote]

Why do the fans of each faction line up with their faction btw

[rose thorn]

Ultramarines

[opaque coyote]

Like

It is a weird phenomenon

[dusk patrol]

Ur a weird phenomenon

[opaque coyote]

Ffs I like the Tau and guess what

I am Chinese

[dusk patrol]

Kinda racist ngl

[rose thorn]

Yeah

Smh

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-whar-whar-what-cat-whar-cat-cat-whar-slow-blink-orange-cat-whar-slow-blink-gif-6291533950402242103

[dusk patrol]

You shouldn’t conform to stereotypes

[rose thorn]

Mhm

[opaque coyote]

Oh you're right

I gotta switch my race brb

[rose thorn]

Also kroot is the best Part of tau

God bless the cowboys and Indians faction

[dusk patrol]

Great we got a lizard fucker in here

[rose thorn]

What?

[opaque coyote]

Kroot when they see a random rotten piece of meat on the ground:

[rose thorn]

I really like westerns

[rose thorn]

That’s wrong and racist

[dusk patrol]

They eat fresh meat

Sometimes living

[rose thorn]

Rotten meat doesn’t have good dna

[opaque coyote]

The Kroot are genuinely interesting

I just kinda wish some of the other auxillaries had some more lore

[rose thorn]

Kroot also line up with my stellaris politics

[opaque coyote]

Like they don't even need to be figures

Just some more details about them in the books would be

NICE

The original reason why I was attracted to the Tau was because I thought they were similar to the Covenant

Basically a collection of different races

Didn't get that but stayed for the cool ass mechas

...

Still would like the different races tho

[shell mason]

Titanfall 2 communist wannabes

[green loom]

Oh hey, (potentially)enby guevesa diplomat

[rose thorn]

watch the Zur En Arrh Batman brave and the bold episode
”woah thsi is cool! It’s kinda cheesy but is a fun idea on a Batman story! I wonder if the new comics use zur”
checks comics
its the most dogshit plot ever

Thsi is so trash, ‘psychological back up Batman’ omfg

Why can’t we jsut have an alien Batman

[queen laurel]

yeah this supposed mortal also developed a backup brain computer just in case he gets mind control

[rose thorn]

Being an alien who just happened to be Batman is a good idea, you could be edgy because alien morals are different or something but this feels like the worst way to reintroduce a character

The wiki says the alien still exists though

[plush mason]

https://youtu.be/LSM7AF2Rvbc?si=pxhsgItviY4okV07 leave it to carbot to capture the essence of a space marine

[low gazelle]

antenna miissiion is whhere II learned you can hheal with ur abiility

[rose thorn]

Hey can someone @ me when they start dropping trh warhammer day stuff

[rocky gale]

Sure, should start in about an hour

[spare osprey]

My money is on Ratlings

[queen laurel]

The top left looks very orky

[celest dome]

Orks, Ratling
Stormcast, Warplock Engineer, Chaos lord

[queen laurel]

Hunched posture rather muscular arm

[celest dome]

I think the Orks has a Power fist or something

[spare osprey]

Some sorts big gun personally

[rocky gale]

Hmmmmmmm

[queen laurel]

Probably this yeah like a very big gun

But could also be a fist weapon

[celest dome]

We shall see

[queen laurel]

Yes

[spare osprey]

I’m wondering if the new kill team is orks vs Ratlings

Would continue the specialized imperial idea

[celest dome]

If we see Ratling as a Kill Team I'll be really surprised

[queen laurel]

Do they add new things to kill teams?

That are already released

When they're adding new models for the game i usually see them being a new group

[rocky gale]

A lot of factions end up with several Killteams

Like Drukhari have Hand of the Archon and Mandrakes

Previous Ork Killteam is Kommandos, this could be Techy Orks or something

[spare osprey]

That’s my thoughts

[green loom]

Rumours

[spare osprey]

And kill team is scheduled for today

[green loom]

Ork kill team vs Abhumans

[queen laurel]

Ohhhhhh

[green loom]

So ratlings and ogryn

Tzeentch char almost certainly

[queen laurel]

Maybe a more range focus one

[green loom]

And skaventide part 2 for AoS

[queen laurel]

The kill team of Orks is already pretty melee centered

[spare osprey]

Wonder what’ll be for legions imperialis

[plush mason]

inb GW pulls a fast one and makes a felinid model and its just a dude with an ugly cat like face

[green loom]

Felinid and it's just Wolverine

[rocky gale]

@rose thorn It's starting

[queen laurel]

Is warhammer streams bad on mobile

I'm just accessing the warhammer community website on mobile and my god that s*** is ass

[green loom]

Okay I was wrong

It's a new Underworlds edition

Skaven v Stormcast

[small grail]

horus Luberical

[queen laurel]

If you guys see the ork hit me up

[small grail]

howd u go from a warboss to a boy

[queen laurel]

From boy to war boss you mean

[spare osprey]

Will do so

[queen laurel]

Thank you darth vader lizard homie

[small grail]

u were the toughest metal jaw or whatever

[spare osprey]

🫡

[small grail]

what ocurred for this

[queen laurel]

That's age of sigmar

Not 40k i'm currently using the title of one of my ork characters

[small grail]

damn u got alter egos

ghaz wud be proud

[small grail]

any new books that are good lads?

[small grail]

ah yes a colony of twitter users fascinating creatures

[celest dome]

Skaven vs Stormcast

[queen laurel]

DOOM WHEELS

Or a doom bike i don't know

[celest dome]

Stormcast isn't really great

[queen laurel]

Oh man more of those armored generic crossbow wielding stormcast

Not like we already have like 50 of those

[small grail]

hunter custodes?