40k-lore-chat

[dusk patrol]

Disney SW is just soulless

[spring cairn]

if it wasn't for mr lucas himself

[dusk patrol]

And there’s no like arc even

[winter vessel]

it was only after the mess of the Sequel Trilogy did they bother to try something different with Acolyte, and even that shit they blew out of their ass was barely considered creative

[dusk patrol]

The prequels have a clear story at least

[opaque coyote]

The Clone Wars show actually did salvage a lot of it.

Although the prequels are still lame, the show did retroactively make the movies better

[arctic talon]

Rogue one and Andor is the best Star Wars Disney

Tbh

[dusk patrol]

It’s insane how much Disney has devalued Star Wars

[arctic talon]

Mostly because it’s creative

And unique lol

[spring cairn]

i'd say rogue is the best sw overall tbh

[winter vessel]

I wanted to strangle Rose in The Last Jedi

[dusk patrol]

A fucking 40k game is kicking the ass of a much more expensive triple A Star Wars game right now

[spring cairn]

disney or not

the people want dark and gritty

[arctic talon]

Star Wars outlaws isn’t even a bad game

[spring cairn]

they have spoken

[arctic talon]

💀

[spring cairn]

dark and groiddy

[dusk patrol]

Outlaws has barely cleared one million units sold

[arctic talon]

Is the funniest part

[dusk patrol]

SM2 beat that the day it came out

And is still selling like crazy

[opaque coyote]

I'm gonna say a Hot take

Out of the trilogy, Last Jedi was my favorite.

[dusk patrol]

Yeah people just don’t care

It’s wild

[queen laurel]

is it like just good or like mid?

[opaque coyote]

It's the equivalent of saying "Which is my favorite shit pile"

[spring cairn]

1 step closer to the battlefield-esque imperial guard game we deserve

[opaque coyote]

But it's my favorite

[dusk patrol]

And sorry when I say beat that

[spring cairn]

all according to keikaku

[arctic talon]

It’s like good by Ubisoft standards

[dusk patrol]

SM2 doubled that

[arctic talon]

So it’s decent

[dusk patrol]

The day it came out it had already sold 2 million copies

[queen laurel]

yeah that makes sense

[opaque coyote]

Ubisoft

[arctic talon]

It just uh lol

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-fork-swallow-squidward-tentacles-sponge-bob-gif-10721523

[winter vessel]

which means they are scraping the bottom of a barrel

[arctic talon]

But like it’s actually a decent game

That should be doing a lot better

Except people don’t care about Star Wars a ton

And Ubisoft has torched their community goodwill

[opaque coyote]

Honestly Rainbow Six Siege would've been the pinnacle of fucking multiplayer shooters

...

If it wasn't made and published by Ubisoft

[arctic talon]

Over the course of years

[arctic talon]

It’s nerf or nothing

[opaque coyote]

"It's balanced if everyone fucking sucks and is unfun to play with!"

[spring cairn]

sw need to change direction and target audience if it wants to survive

[winter vessel]

im at the point of time in Star Wars where its better for this legend to remain standalone and not get a sequel

[dusk patrol]

Tbf R6 did fine for

A long long time

[arctic talon]

Yeah

R6 only in like the last 3 years

Has been in nerf hell

Lol

[dusk patrol]

So idk, it’s gotten bad apparently, I haven’t played it, but I wouldn’t say it’s a failure

[opaque coyote]

It did. I played R6S obsessively.

The Base Game itself is genuinely fun

[dusk patrol]

It did well

[arctic talon]

Ubisoft just keeps on nerfing stuff

[dusk patrol]

I miss the original cast tbh

[arctic talon]

They’re playing wack a mole

[dusk patrol]

I got tired of all the new ops

I think I left when the one

The evil eye dude

[opaque coyote]

But the problem is that

Y'know how most fps games have a shooting range?

THEY DIDN'T ADD IT FOR 5 YEARS

[dusk patrol]

Not him specifically just in general the game

[opaque coyote]

They only added it in like

2021?

[queen laurel]

Deep rock moment

[opaque coyote]

IT TOOK THEM 6 YEARS

[queen laurel]

look the game is fun but my god they need a shooting range

[opaque coyote]

6 YEARS TO ADD A SHOOTING RANGE TO TRY OUT GUNS

[dusk patrol]

I wish SM2 had a place to test builds

[opaque coyote]

6 FUCKING YEA

[dusk patrol]

But oh well

It’s not a huge deal

[arctic talon]

Nokk in siege lost silent step lol

[dusk patrol]

lol

[queen laurel]

yeah like at least dark tide on release had one

[opaque coyote]

They took away Nokk's silent step

SHE WASN'T EVEN TOP TIER OR META

[queen laurel]

even if it wasn't the best

[opaque coyote]

SHE WASN'T EVEN USED IN PRO LEAGUES

SHE WAS FIN

SO OF COURSE THEY TOOK AWAY THE ACTUAL FUCKING FUN

[dusk patrol]

Iirc they’re gonna expand the battle barge eventually here so they might add a range or whatever

Training grounds

I appreciate the devs communicate clearly what they’re gonna focus on and add and what they’re not

[opaque coyote]

JAGER'S GADGET USED TO OP

PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT A LOT

YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT UBISOFT DID

NERFED HIS FUCKING GUN

[arctic talon]

Society

Also nokk was being picked for frags

So we shouldn’t remove frags

Let’s just nerf her gadget

[opaque coyote]

AND THEN AFTER A WHILE NERFED HIS GADGET

SO NOW YOU HAVE A NERFED GUN AND NERFED GADGET MAKING JAGER UNFUN

[opaque coyote]

THEY LITERALLY REMOVED THE ABILITY TO COOK GRENADES

THAT'S RIGHT

[dusk patrol]

“Ubisoft doesn’t care about autistic Germans.”

[shell mason]

sup nerds

[opaque coyote]

MECHANICAL SKILL?

TIMING?

BEING GOOD AT GAMEPLAY?

FUCK THAT

LET'S REMOVE A CORE FEATURE THAT'S BEEN THERE SINCE DAY 1

[dusk patrol]

The one wheelchair lady is hilarious tbh

How her robots don’t interact with so much stuff they should

[queen laurel]

She's the one that uses a highly advanced robot to fight for her right

[shell mason]

.....

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

And they get stunned

[opaque coyote]

Haven't played that yet.

I quit a while sgo

[shell mason]

what are yall talking about?

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

And flashed

[opaque coyote]

Siege being cancer

[arctic talon]

Huh

Weird

[queen laurel]

so what's the entire robots point anyway like tanking more bullets or some shit

[shell mason]

Rainbow?

[opaque coyote]

Yup

[shell mason]

ew

[arctic talon]

You get 2 of them

Iirc

[opaque coyote]

Also me raging at how bad the state of the game is

[arctic talon]

For the robots

[dusk patrol]

There’s two

[shell mason]

used to play that trash

[opaque coyote]

At least the robots genuinely look cool

[dusk patrol]

She can switch between them

[opaque coyote]

They've gotten better with character design recently

[dusk patrol]

When one is inactive IQ can detect it

[opaque coyote]

Kinda fell off after Clash

[dusk patrol]

But not when it’s active

For

Reasons

[shell mason]

.....yk that as easy as kicking them out the chair

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah I remember one has a shield and one has normal gear I think

[dusk patrol]

Yeah something like that

[opaque coyote]

She basically uses two robots to fight for her while she hangs back

[arctic talon]

Mfw pulse on attack

[arctic talon]

Drone operator

Give her a drone strike

Goobisoft

[dusk patrol]

Mute jammers done work on them unfortunately

Because she’s already disabled

https://tenor.com/view/rim-shot-badum-tss-comedy-snl-kattan-armisen-gif-5380563

[arctic talon]

💀

She’s also a defender

Lul

[shell mason]

All fun and games til I use fuse and remind everyone one why robots are objects

[dusk patrol]

But yeah overall it’s kinda funny but it’s not even that goofy compared to a lot of Ops

The one fucking

Space girl

[shell mason]

also can't interrogate robots

[dusk patrol]

With her hologram

Is so goofy

[opaque coyote]

I think Fuze is the only one that has been buffed?

He can actually Fuze reinforced walls recently

[arctic talon]

They nerfed the Ak-12

So

[opaque coyote]

It takes longer to jam it in so people can run away unless if they're like

Deaf

[arctic talon]

Sort of?

[shell mason]

my boy

[opaque coyote]

But it's a good way to say fuck you to any gadgets and shit

[storm jungle]

If only the robots could interrogate you

[dusk patrol]

Yeah basically it seems they’ve made so many gadgets or guns bad that it’s not fun anymore for a lot of people

[storm jungle]

as shown here

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but that goes for literally all of the guns

[arctic talon]

I’m not sure why they gave the AK-12 to a hard breacher lol

Like ?????

[dusk patrol]

Common flesh L

[opaque coyote]

Apparently the professional and expert Operators that have years of experience can't handle the awesome power of

...

Shooting a 9mm gun

[shell mason]

WTF WITCHFINDER

[dusk patrol]

[storm jungle]

As a chick i dig robots.

[winter vessel]

all my brain got out of this story for BO3:

[storm jungle]

got a problem with getting torn apart bozo

[dusk patrol]

Black Ops 3 story is

The most schizophrenic shit ever

[storm jungle]

Its written to be purposefully complicated and even then its dogshit

also uh

its written by the zombies writers

[opaque coyote]

You didn't see anything

[storm jungle]

which explains so much

[dusk patrol]

Yep

[shell mason]

How are you not Magos Dilara

instead of witchfinder

[winter vessel]

???

[dusk patrol]

The fact that the story isn’t real and it’s all fake and in your head and actually it’s really in the text before missions like jfc

[opaque coyote]

Isn't that the game with the zombies mode that has you play as Cold War Presidents

[dusk patrol]

Kill me

[crystal forum]

most emotional moment in bo3

[dusk patrol]

No that’s Blops 1

[storm jungle]

The entire plot is "its a simulation and characters from a tie-in comic nobody read are off doing a mission and everyone dies"

Like... okay? What was the point lol

[shell mason]

where is that from anyway?

[opaque coyote]

Ah

I haven't played any CoD game besides Warzone for 10 minutes

[storm jungle]

Black Ops 3's opening

[dusk patrol]

Damn how deep, I thought I kinda enjoyed the story but it turns out the story I enjoyed sucked

Crazy

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

Says a lot about society

[storm jungle]

literally the writers thinking they are so smart lol

[crystal forum]

zombies writing was never good

[shell mason]

damn haven't played that

[dusk patrol]

Zombies writing is wild

[storm jungle]

its zombies

[shell mason]

only BO 1 and 2

[storm jungle]

like people think 40k lore is complicated

[shell mason]

the goats

[storm jungle]

they should see cod zombies

lmao

[shell mason]

yes

[winter vessel]

how did we go from a classic horror flick style survival game to "We are now fighting the WARP" essentially

[gaunt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/megas-rock-rock-on-meow-megas-xlr-gif-16593887440635791995

[crystal forum]

the funniest part of zombies is it never fucking needed lore

[spring cairn]

no but it's intended kinda

[storm jungle]

SOMEONE GOT IT

[shell mason]

it's someone gets it witchfinder

[winter vessel]

this from the same cartoon where they blow up the DMV?

[crystal forum]

from bo3 onwards they started using eldritch stuff and it just went downhill from there

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/darksouls-gif-20991094

[gaunt sable]

That theme song lives rent free in my head. @.@

[dusk patrol]

Meanwhile Kingdom Hearts lore:

[storm jungle]

Also related:

[crystal forum]

bo2 at least did time shit tastefully and didn't go full bullshit

[storm jungle]

Yeah BO2 is great

its a simple plot lol

[dusk patrol]

Kingdom Hearts lore is so stupid it’s insane

[winter vessel]

music was nice

[dusk patrol]

I actually gave up

[gaunt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/megas-xlr-megas-xlr-blasting-shooting-gif-22986250

[dusk patrol]

I wanted to learn it and I gave up

It’s so dumb

[storm jungle]

same

its so fucking weird

[dusk patrol]

They put key plot points

[crystal forum]

bo3 tried adding too much overarching plot and blah blah blah who cares

[dusk patrol]

Behind a pachinko machine

[storm jungle]

BO3 also has like

no actual ties to anything related to black ops

[gaunt sable]

https://youtu.be/koesW3xMKtY?si=jBDnCVxv8qdi8lD8

[spring cairn]

you need a 3 year course to understand that KH's lore is dogshit

[dusk patrol]

And a mobile game

[storm jungle]

minus Menendez' drone attacks

[green loom]

The opening for this goes needlessly hard

[crystal forum]

MENENDEZ

[storm jungle]

MENDEEEEEEZ

[winter vessel]

and the nova 6 gas

[storm jungle]

YEAH THAT TOO

[shell mason]

......

[storm jungle]

literally just

"oh hey nova 6"

like...

okay???

[green loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717085642026254437/1146290666649952306/v0f044gc0000cjn72kbc77ubo5v714tg.mov?ex=66febd1f&is=66fd6b9f&hm=8c49e526fe05310554c1eba5648f95d77a7119f792324cf6e07efe7ce8e2d5d7&

[storm jungle]

WHY THE FUCK IS IT HERE

[crystal forum]

did you know wood's voice actor was just some random hockey coach

[dusk patrol]

I really hate games that just become bad drug trips by the end

[gaunt sable]

Coop could fix the Golden Throne.

[dusk patrol]

With no substance

[storm jungle]

Hes so good

[shell mason]

No here is talking about kick buttkowisk suburban daredevil and it's sad

[crystal forum]

the voice actor is so no name that he continued voicing woods for like the longest time in the series

[gaunt sable]

Probably turn it and the God Emperor into a giant robot that could close the Cicatrix Maledictum and blow up the chaos gods too.

[queen laurel]

oh shit that one is fun

[winter vessel]

My favorite BO1 mission intro

[crystal forum]

all the OG black ops 1 voice actors stopped after 1 or 2 games

woods sounds so off in cold war because the vo changed

[storm jungle]

its mostly because most of them were famous actors

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-buttowski-yeah-dance-gif-gif-21468388

[crystal forum]

mason is the main character from avatar, hudson is that famous actor i forgot the name of

[storm jungle]

the worst part with that is they didnt even call him back btw, he literally said "I was ready to go idk why they didnt get me onboard"

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-south-knoll-shooter-sherry-fiester-enemy-of-the-truth-jfk-kill-reloaded-gif-18985807

[storm jungle]

like

thye just found a voice-alike?

[dusk patrol]

My favorite Black Ops mission intro:

[storm jungle]

LOL

[crystal forum]

i didn't even know that part wtf

[storm jungle]

yeah he says it on a youtube video with his grandson

[winter vessel]

saddest black ops death

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-call-of-duty-black-ops-black-ops-mason-woods-man-gif-22994904

[spring cairn]

wasn't it in a BO game you had to kill civilians in an airport

[shell mason]

Met a SF dude named Mason

[storm jungle]

What I do with people who dont read 40k lore

[storm jungle]

thats Modern Warfare

[shell mason]

shit felt surreal

[opaque coyote]

Sounds like someone's breaking in

Just a storm dick... Let it go

[crystal forum]

modern warfare

[storm jungle]

Black Ops is cold war shit

[crystal forum]

no russian

[queen laurel]

the No russian?

[spring cairn]

sorry

[queen laurel]

yeah that's modern

[spring cairn]

those games all look the same to me

[storm jungle]

I mean

they basically are

[dusk patrol]

Why did he trust Dragovich, is he stupid?

[storm jungle]

LOL

[crystal forum]

mf had NO childhood

[shell mason]

what

[winter vessel]

ahhh my favorite controversial mission that made news headlines

[opaque coyote]

Remember how that was controversial

Now we have No Russian in American Schools everyday!

[green loom]

He'd make it the ultimate football viewing station

[opaque coyote]

[spring cairn]

i never played any campaign, i just used to do split screens at friends houses

[storm jungle]

the most realistic part is you are playing an udnercover CIA agent committing atrocities on foreign soil

[crystal forum]

escept 3/4 of the series

[snow fern]

Are people surprised members of the CIA actively participate in acts of terror?

[queen laurel]

when i was a kid i was purposely looking for the crawling and limping people and shot them in the head

[winter vessel]

back when the devs had the balls to take risks like that

[storm jungle]

KEK

[spring cairn]

CIA or any secret service for that matter

[crystal forum]

can't wait for black ops 2 stuff to happen next year

[gaunt sable]

I'm not.

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[winter vessel]

I was honestly worried that if i didnt shoot any civvies, makarov and his pals would suspect me and shoot me, but i was a kid then

[dusk patrol]

(I may have done the same)

[storm jungle]

Yeah they dont do anything

they will only attack you if you shoot them

[queen laurel]

hey i'm a lot nicer now so all of of that evil things I've done is at least kind of repaid

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/mw-ghost-modern-warfare-modern-warfare2-mw2-gif-27110646

Mfw

[winter vessel]

bro got that overbite

[gaunt sable]

The CIA has enough skeletons in their closest to make one of those cathedral ossuaries.

[crystal forum]

can't wait to be disappointed by black ops 5

[storm jungle]

same

[crystal forum]

there will be 9/11

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think that's the problem with the modern gaming industry

No AAA tries something new.

Remember Farcry 2 and Farcry 3

They were both experimental but also tried something new

But then every Farcry game afterwards just copied 3's gameplay

[storm jungle]

I love how half the trailers are like

"GUYS LOOK ITS BILL CLINTON"

ah yes the Sax Offender

[dusk patrol]

I miss old ghost man, he was so chill back then

[crystal forum]

omg you can slide in all directions now

[storm jungle]

Max Payne be like

[dusk patrol]

He was just a dude with a skull baclava

[storm jungle]

"MINDBLOWING!!!!"

fuck off

[crystal forum]

i love my omnidirectional movement

[storm jungle]

lol

you know the cod fanbase is pathetic, when thats what blows their minds

[dusk patrol]

Now they made him all like extra edgy and shit

[crystal forum]

i want my fucking dolphin dive back treyarch

[queen laurel]

The CIA has enough bones on their closet to manifest a Ossiarch army

[winter vessel]

my favorite MW faction, and they were only in one game in the OG trilogy

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/cod-gif-20123483

[gaunt sable]

"Hey look guys! It's Ronald Reagan! And he's respecting a nonbinary person's pronouns!"
Meanwhile the AIDS crisis

[green loom]

I wish black ops let us shoot the president

[dusk patrol]

Top ten anime betrayals

[queen laurel]

they can pay the bone tithe 20 times over

[storm jungle]

mercenaries my beloved

[gaunt sable]

Fucking Ronnie Raygun.

[opaque coyote]

It's like an abused kid thanking their abusive father for actually getting them dinner instead of just beating them

[snow fern]

They’re not even in the closet, most of their atrocities they talk about in public interviews or declassified documents on their own damn website.

[queen laurel]

They still play this game like a girl that can't move on to their ex clings on their ex their loyalty is rather misplaced unfortunately

[winter vessel]

at least they got more screen time in the reboot (despite its mess), and they somewhat get back in good graces in MW3 (despite its mess)

[dusk patrol]

I remember Shepard betraying you blew my fucking mind as a kid.

“He can do that?!”

[gaunt sable]

Yeeep

[dusk patrol]

And then he fucking almost smoked Soap and Price

[storm jungle]

Shephard was just bing chilling

[dusk patrol]

Why wasn’t that guy on mission with us jfc

[opaque coyote]

The CIA selling crack to black neighborhoods be like

[gaunt sable]

"Are you a bad enough dude to shoot the President?"

.....Oh God I think I just landed everyone on here on an FBI watch list. Dx

[winter vessel]

it flew over my head that the voice behind him was the guy who plays Bishop in the Alien series

[dusk patrol]

Dude knew he was so good, he shot Roach first

[green loom]

I'm a foreigner outside the EU zone, I'm on a watchlist by default

[dusk patrol]

And then no look drew on Ghost

[opaque coyote]

I mean yeah but they most likely didn't want to risk it

I mean Fallout New Vegas almost got forcefully cancelled because of the mission where you assassinate President Kimball

[dusk patrol]

He shot the almost dead guy first

What a badass

[queen laurel]

I love the fact that they named this guy who was a skilled operative and master sharpshooter nothing more than roach

[winter vessel]

the remastered made it worse when you see Roach grab his wrist in like a "Why..." motion

[queen laurel]

like straight up cockroach

[snow fern]

I’m pretty sure wanting universal healthcare in America gets you on a watchlist, I wasn’t too worried about it

[spring cairn]

Silence pathetic enemy of NATO

[queen laurel]

not even something fancy just roach

[green loom]

[dusk patrol]

Everyone else gets some kickass name

[spring cairn]

you will be dust

[winter vessel]

Meat

[green loom]

I figured "Roach" was just for "hard to kill"

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

actually that makes senses

[green loom]

Like how "Soap" sounds dumb but it's because he cleans house

[opaque coyote]

Honestly the biggest problem is that it would be hard to put in universal healthcare simply because of how American people are.

The New York Mayor tried to put a tax on those big soda bottles and people FUCKING PROTESTED

[gaunt sable]

Radioactive dust dancing in the wind of the wasteland, shadows frozen for eternity.

[dusk patrol]

Most call signs have some kinda funny story behind it

[opaque coyote]

He had to reverse it

[dusk patrol]

Most aren’t cool also or if they are it’s for a funny reason

[winter vessel]

the randomly generated ones can literally be "Messiah"

[queen laurel]

this sounds like something that you would hear in a fallout song

[gaunt sable]

I just always assumed it was because that's a common British name.

[dusk patrol]

Like I remember one dude was called “Legend” because the failed a test no one had ever failed before

[winter vessel]

might as well name the snipers Fish n Chips during the Loose ends mission

[green loom]

It sounds funnier than "John Mactavish" for sure

[dusk patrol]

The first female fighter pilots callsign was NAG for “Not a Guy”

I remember one was Shredder because he shredded super important documents by accident

[opaque coyote]

Oliver North mome

[dusk patrol]

Bambi was one who hit a pregnant deer which ran onto the runway

[opaque coyote]

L M A O

bruh

[dusk patrol]

There’s a lot like that

[gaunt sable]

checks weather.
Fuck me.
It's fucking October and the heat index is 97F/36.1C. Dx

[opaque coyote]

dude got a double kill

[opaque coyote]

100 F for me

[dusk patrol]

If it as cool one there’s probably a funny story behind it

[opaque coyote]

Love climate change

[queen laurel]

i swear if they have someone called fart and he is a bioweapon specialist and carries a lot poison gas I wouldn't even be surprised

[gaunt sable]

I'm in Floriduh

[opaque coyote]

Nah it's the guy wielding the flamethrower

[opaque coyote]

California

[dusk patrol]

I know one was called Whizz cause he peed himself while flying one time

[gaunt sable]

I need the temperature to start dropping.

[opaque coyote]

Yes

[gaunt sable]

It's too fucking HOT

[spring cairn]

can you not use barbarian measurement units

[opaque coyote]

Y E S

[dusk patrol]

Fahrenheit is superior

[gaunt sable]

I work outside!

[dusk patrol]

I’ll die on that hill

[spring cairn]

die you will

[opaque coyote]

37.7 Celsius

[crystal forum]

it's quite cold here

[gaunt sable]

FUCK YOU I'M AN AMERICAN!

[spring cairn]

quite hot

[opaque coyote]

Yes

[green loom]

I wish I was that hot

[crystal forum]

18 degrees already idk what you're all talking about

[spring cairn]

erm how many big toes is that

[opaque coyote]

If you were, you would die

actually wait

[gaunt sable]

https://youtu.be/bsomg4XlMrE?si=fn10H33P0663vYsy

[opaque coyote]

nvm you wouldn't, you still have 5 degrees to go

[opaque coyote]

I need to play RDR2 tbh

[green loom]

Same, and I actually can soon too

[green loom]

One can dream

[storm jungle]

Also SM2

Im glad i can main Heavy and he has actual pants on

SO I DONT HAVE TO STARE AT HIS FAT ASS

[spring cairn]

no ass

[crystal forum]

is that gravis booty i see

[spring cairn]

worst class

[storm jungle]

💀

[spring cairn]

super genetic requires super ass

[crystal forum]

the cake absorbs the bullets

[winter vessel]

he got the space diaper

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah also on a unrelated side note

[gaunt sable]

Monster.

The ass is the best part.

[opaque coyote]

One of my favorite moments in DBZ Abridged is Goku arriving at Namek ironically

https://youtu.be/o9slD_sD-BQ?si=ljqWggZImkQ9S96R

I didn't know that Hulk Hogans theme fitted Goku so well

[green loom]

True....

[spring cairn]

the ass can probably kill tzangors faster than the weapons

[gaunt sable]

His ass could have been an inspiration for the whole company! They would have put him on stilts so everyone could see it!

[crystal forum]

who needs a chapter banner when you can get a chapter ass

that's prime mccrage ass right there

[green loom]

Ass on the banner

[opaque coyote]

DAMN YOU SURE THESE SMS ARE ASEXUAL

BECAUSE

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

[opaque coyote]

I can appreciate an ass when I see it Dilara

[gaunt sable]

Pecs in front to district or offend the enemy! Ass in the back to inspire morale in the troops!

[crystal forum]

ass clapping to the marching song

[opaque coyote]

You can call it extra armor to defend from the front and the behind

[opaque coyote]

Top tier ass honestly

Shrek 1 and 2 is pretty good

[crystal forum]

brother i am pinned here

[opaque coyote]

Shrek 3 sucks, has a couple of good jokes, but it fucking sucks

Shrek 4 is good

It's honestly fascinating how they actually made the 4th movie better than the first

2nd is still best tho

[outer wave]

Ive watched Shrek 3 multiple times as a kid and I dunno, I thought it was good

[opaque coyote]

Honestly it's kinda ass

ba dum tss

[outer wave]

I dont recall the movie now and I wonder why its so bad

[opaque coyote]

The king frog dying over and over is funny though

[outer wave]

Thats a good bit

[opaque coyote]

Mainly because the characters kinda become flanderized

[outer wave]

Ahhhh

[opaque coyote]

And a good chunk of the jokes don't land

Like there are some good bits like I mentioned earlier

But for every good one there's like 4 fart jokes

I know that Shrek isn't like

The pinnacle of fancy humor

But it devolves from an all ages level to

3 year old

[outer wave]

Okay okay thats fair

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

Shrek 4 is surprisingly good though

Like I genuinely didn't expect it to actually be good

I thought it was gonna be a downslide from 3

It's honestly the best way to cap the series off

[crystal forum]

apparently i was invited to play deadlock in august but never checked the message because usually those are just steam sale information

[opaque coyote]

Oof

I didn't hear much from deadlock

I hope it's good

I also hope Valve doesn't treat it like it does for TF2

[crystal forum]

steam could have told me some other way than a random email lol

[opaque coyote]

Seriously so many companies would kill to have a fucking 20+ year old game still be popular

But Valve is just like

"Meh"

[spring cairn]

Valve is too busy working on peak

peaklock and half life 3

[opaque coyote]

Although tbf most of their revenue comes from Steam which is probably

The only time where a company didn't entirely abuse being a Monopoly

[crystal forum]

guess i'll try it out 7 weeks late

[opaque coyote]

Like it's weird how

Well regulated it is??

Especially with Greenlight being gone

Sure there's still plenty of trash games but not as much as like

Epic Games

[spring cairn]

you just don't see them

because they're shit

so they don't get advertised

[opaque coyote]

Exactly

[outer wave]

Dont we still have NFT game trash on steam though?

[opaque coyote]

They're quickly buried

[spring cairn]

probably

[opaque coyote]

Nah, Steam banned it

Like actually banned it

[outer wave]

Oh good

[opaque coyote]

Epic Games has plenty of it tho

[outer wave]

Banana game is still up

[opaque coyote]

Unfortunate yes

[outer wave]

Though I wonder how many of those players are just bots

[spring cairn]

like outside of people making vids about that game

i would've never heard of it

nor see it in my store

[crystal forum]

you can just not buy stuff

but fools are easily parted from their money

now excuse me while i go buy 300$ worth of GW plastic

[spring cairn]

me to crack infested neighbourhoods

[opaque coyote]

I think it actually gets around it via a loophole

Basically, Steam specifically bans games where NFT/Blockchain is the main point

[dusk patrol]

You know it’s a bad situation in space marine 2 cause you can find a bunch of free Krak lying around a major hive

[crystal forum]

nice one

[opaque coyote]

But technically for the Banana game, the whole steam marketplace shit isn't part of the game

[crystal forum]

i hope you're proud eternal

[opaque coyote]

The game is technically just clicking on a banana

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/rim-shot-badum-tss-comedy-snl-kattan-armisen-gif-5380563

Very

[opaque coyote]

I wish we had free Krak in Darktide

Damn Nurgle Cultists stole it all

[crystal forum]

you're just cracking knee slappers left and right today

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

Krak kills and so do I

[opaque coyote]

Wtf is a Krak grenade exactly

[spring cairn]

when i put it in iv bags at the hospital

[crystal forum]

anti tank grenade

[opaque coyote]

Like is it just a regular anti armor grenade

[dusk patrol]

Magnetic anti armor nade

[crystal forum]

it can come in many forms but it's usually depicted as a smooth hand grenade

[opaque coyote]

Yeah makes sense

[dusk patrol]

It’s an implosion effect iirc

But it’s not described in depth how it works

[crystal forum]

it's a generic term for anti tank

there's many types

[spring cairn]

it's supposed to be a shaped charge

but it doesn't make any sense

iirc

whatever

at nade

[dusk patrol]

Don’t think about it too hard

It also sticks to stuff which aren’t metal

[spring cairn]

it sticks to the thing you want dead

[crystal forum]

like british WW2 doorknob grenade things

[opaque coyote]

Ceramite moment

[crystal forum]

because british

[dusk patrol]

False, my Kraks always fly towards a worthless gaunt and miss the majoris

And then the gaunt leaps at me

[winter vessel]

the gammon grenade

[crystal forum]

me, a german engineer, coming up with an anti magnetic paint to counter an anti tank grenade which will never exist

[opaque coyote]

"Bro trust me it's not metal.

Despite looking like metal, having similar properties to metal, being magnetic, and having -ite to the end.

It is NOT metal!"

[dusk patrol]

I do appreciate how much Krak and meltas never stop being really good though

They intentionally buffed equipment damage with difficulty so they don’t fall behind

[crystal forum]

dont forget lascannons

oh you mean in game

[opaque coyote]

If we ever get a Skitarii class in Darktide somehow

We should get Melta grenade as an option

[crystal forum]

well las fusil is also good

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

is there even an actual las fusil on tabletop

[dusk patrol]

Plasma stuff, melta, las fusil, nade launcher, stalker and bolt sniper

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

tactical getting like 5 variants of the same gun

[dusk patrol]

Eliminators have the option for Bolt Sniper or Fusil, one can bring a carbine I think too

[opaque coyote]

Also apparently, when Tech Priests are disgraced, but not enough to be servitorized

They simply get their technology and augments pulled away and have to earn it again via fighting the enemies of the Imperium.

Which could be a way to add a Mechanicus class in Darktide

[crystal forum]

i expected as such

[dusk patrol]

Or they just do a tech priest and who cares why they have augmetics

[crystal forum]

what chapter is this anyways

[dusk patrol]

The psyker is already insane that it’s allowed

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I'm just thinking of how they become rejects

[dusk patrol]

Blood Angels for this one

[opaque coyote]

Also it explains why you would have jackshit

[crystal forum]

interesting hue

[opaque coyote]

And have to level up and stuff

[crystal forum]

i like it

[opaque coyote]

Also to be honest, it would be interesting to have like

The weapons built into you

Like you have the different Lasgun types

But instead of just shooting them. You like open your hand and shoot lasers out like fucking Iron Man

[dusk patrol]

They could easily do a few different paths

Tanky melee guy

Weapons dude

[opaque coyote]

Imagine having Mechandrites as a melee weapon

Imagine fucking murdering people with doc Ock looking arms

They simply attach knives to them

And the animation is just a flurry of stabs from the different arms

Heavy Attack would be using all the Mechandrites at once

Also I'm heavily disappointed we don't have any Power Fist weapons

It would be so fun to be a Zealot and just

Punch the shit out of heretics

[outer wave]

I feel eventually we'll get more power weapons

[opaque coyote]

Imagine if the special move was fucking Suplexing them

[outer wave]

Like with the Moebian Steel shit

[opaque coyote]

Nah that would be Ogyrn

[outer wave]

No I mean power weapons in general

[opaque coyote]

Power Fist for Zealot and Veteran

Psyker would get some Force equivalent.

Ogyrn would get spiked kunckles

[outer wave]

Psyker could get force two handed sword

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[outer wave]

Ogryn is brass knuckles/Spiked knuckles/Cestus

[opaque coyote]

Also I thought of an idea to add to that.

Imagine if Drachyen was a skin for two handed force sword

[arctic talon]

Force shank

Ngl

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

Psykers not having the force staff as a melee option

Is odd lol

[opaque coyote]

You just casually wield Abaddon's Daemon sword into battle

It constantly spouts dialogue about murder and consuming your soul while you swing it

Nobody questions it

[celest dome]

Force 'Quaterstaff' would not be a bad weapon, but could lead to confusion by other players

[opaque coyote]

Would be better than merely another paint job tbh

[opaque coyote]

A quarter staff sounds awesome

Actually this may sound too Eldar but fuck it

Force Twinblades

[celest dome]

Hammerhand

[opaque coyote]

That way you cannot mistake it for a staff

[crystal forum]

vet still begging for power fist

[opaque coyote]

Y'know the Fists of Steel weapon for Heavy TF2?

That would be perfect for an Ogyrn

Just make it rusted and darker color to fit the WH40K aesthetic

[crystal forum]

i'd kill for a hot shot lasgun

[shell mason]

for some reason thought I was tripping

but was just in book club

[crystal forum]

we dont even have a long las smh

[celest dome]

But most likely not, just cosmetics

[opaque coyote]

Honestly it would be hard to think of a role for that

[crystal forum]

alt fire for long las being loading a hot shot pack

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

That would be cool as a weapon

[celest dome]

Thing is those are augments, so sever the arm, replace it with Power fists

[opaque coyote]

Sad that Ogyrn's a slave tho

[opaque coyote]

Ouch

...

[celest dome]

Can't really do that and still use ranged weapons

But as cosmetics it's not really a problem (though would be 'slimer' built)

[opaque coyote]

I mean you probably still could

Just would be hard to like

Put the finger in the trigger

[shell mason]

Ok say what you want

[arctic talon]

Just give psykers bare knuckle brawling as a melee weapon

[shell mason]

But Majorkills Belgium Sheppard is fucking adorable

[celest dome]

Still have the issue of replacing the skin/arm of the Ogryn, if it's a weapon

[crystal forum]

imagine zealot getting that flamer chainsaw from the inquisition box

[shell mason]

LOOK AT HIM

[opaque coyote]

Yeah a Non-Augment version of that would be cool

Just having the Ogyrn put it on

The excuse would be that it's makeshift so it wouldn't have the power part. So the Ogyrn is punching people with metal gauntlets

[gray umbra]

Society is like a boot

[opaque coyote]

Dog

[celest dome]

Steel Arm/Hammerhand as part of a Biomantic Sword is really a thing I hope we get (Sienna's Fire Sword)

[shell mason]

He is fucking beautiful

[celest dome]

Groenendal ?

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I kinda wish we got a female body for the Ogyrn

Simply because it would be funny

IK GW definitely wouldn't allow it because mandates

[crystal forum]

i literally can't convince myself to use a shovel because 40k logic is the power sword should be better

[shell mason]

Belgium Shepherd

[celest dome]

There are 4 of those

[opaque coyote]

It'd probably look like

Uh

[shell mason]

Bitch idk

[opaque coyote]

The regular Ogyrn body but with boobs

[gray umbra]

Pretend its a power shovel

[shell mason]

show

now

[celest dome]

No official arts of them

[crystal forum]

krieg_meme.jpeg

[shell mason]

fuck it

[opaque coyote]

No official arts, it's just me thinking about what a female Ogyrn would look like

[gray umbra]

The disruptor field helps dig trenches and kill heretics

[opaque coyote]

Apparently they do look different enough from male Ogyrns to have people be able to differentiate them

So unfortunately my Headcanon of Female Ogyrns basically working like Dwarf logic and looking the same as males is wrong

[crystal forum]

fictional race

[shell mason]

.....One thing I'm sad about

no felinds

[opaque coyote]

I did think about how funny it would be if Female Ogyrns were just

Larger women

Like they're as smart as a regular person

[shell mason]

Felinids

[opaque coyote]

I do have a headcanon about them

[shell mason]

They exist so

[celest dome]

Warhammer Dwarf lady don't look like males

[opaque coyote]

Basically y'know how animals have different coats for Summer and Winter?

[shell mason]

Yea?

Like weasels

[opaque coyote]

Basically during the summer, they basically look like generic anime cat people.

Basically looking human but with cat ears, eyes, and claws

During the winter, they turn into the furry type

[celest dome]

Female Ogre, take those do the same thing Ogre -> Ogryn does and you have it

[opaque coyote]

Basically growing fur all over their body to the point where they look like Anthro felines

And they constantly grow and shed their fur throughout the "seasons"

[shell mason]

But that depends on planet as well

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I can imagine like

Snow Planets like Fenris, if a Felinid moved there for..

Emperor knows what reason.

They would be permanently furry.

If they moved to a desert planet or whatever.

Permanently anime cat person

[shell mason]

Mhm

[gray umbra]

Guardsman Furball reporting for duty

[opaque coyote]

Also for extra humor.

I can imagine all the fur just suddenly appearing/falling away like a cartoon

Like as soon as Fall comes

poof

They suddenly look like a furry

As soon as Spring comes

[shell mason]

Just a regular guards man chilling in a snow planet, on post smoking something to warm his lungs

[opaque coyote]

All the fur just

Magically falls away

Like it just drops

[shell mason]

then sees something covered in fur asking him for one

[opaque coyote]

The Magos Biologis and Ordos Xenos are still confused on how it works

But this has lead to major confusion on what they actually look like throughout the Imperium

Which is an inuniverse explanation for why they have zero descriptions

[snow fern]

I had heard Fatshark was willing to do lady Ogryns for Darktide but GW said no, which is lame if true

[celest dome]

I've never heard that, not sure on the certainity of that

It's most likely true, in the sense that FS would want to do it, and GW would be the one that would likely be against it, but NDA and all that

[snow fern]

Yah, it's why I say if true, rumormongering never goes anywhere well

[gaunt sable]

It's not UNLIKELY.

[storm jungle]

Yeah its true.

It was confirmed by them pre-launch

[gaunt sable]

GW is absurdly......Hands on with what Devs can/can't do with 40k media.

[storm jungle]

No models = No appearance

[dusk patrol]

GW doesn’t want a third party company making the canon look for female Ogryns

[gaunt sable]

There's all sorts of stories from Total War Warhammer.

[storm jungle]

Yeah Total Warhammer is even weirder

[dusk patrol]

They might do it eventually but it’s how it is

[spring cairn]

GW fears the Ogroobs

as do I tbh

[dusk patrol]

I’m sure there’s some concern for that yes

[queen laurel]

yeah even a Server bot what it can say has to go through with them

@storm jungle can confirm

like damn

[storm jungle]

The last thing GW fears is tits

[gaunt sable]

The level of protectiveness that GW has over their IP is fekkin nuts.

[storm jungle]

someone post that fat slob necromunda cook guy

[storm jungle]

there he is

💀

[celest dome]

Fair

[storm jungle]

Yeah GW being morons, nothing new lol

[bold rampart]

why does he have a belt under his titties

oh probs backpack

[storm jungle]

Yep

it goes over his shoulders too

fucking fat fuck

[bold rampart]

[spring cairn]

is he smoking a fat dart

[bold rampart]

ew he has zits

disgusting bastard

bet he cooks good tho, i still wouldnt eat it

[dusk patrol]

They’re not worried about the unfuckables

[celest dome]

Not the best Necromunda cook though

[bold rampart]

hes from necromunda?

[dusk patrol]

Idk what good sometimes

[queen laurel]

yep

[spring cairn]

are you implying ogryns would be very fuckable

[bold rampart]

cool

[dusk patrol]

Varies from person to person

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[celest dome]

Yes

[dusk patrol]

I am 1000% sure lots of people would very much want to fuck then

And it would be a whole thing

[spring cairn]

i mean not with how they'd actually look

they'd be p disappointment i'm sure

[bold rampart]

dumbass is about to spill acid on himself

[dusk patrol]

As if that’s stopped anyone before

[celest dome]

It's soup

[queen laurel]

the fat one is i kid you not called Slopper

and scabber is the little guy

[bold rampart]

looks like his crack pot

you gotta be 15+ to look at fat man tits

is he just obese or is it an ogryn? he doesnt look like an ogryn

[celest dome]

Still want a Fem only arche just to have Esher cosmetics

[queen laurel]

just a fat guy

[celest dome]

Obsese human

[bold rampart]

probs not an ogryn

[dusk patrol]

Are we pretending the terms have to be mutually exclusive in Munda?

[bold rampart]

FATASS

[celest dome]

Depend on which acid we're refering to then

[dusk patrol]

Yes

At the same time

[queen laurel]

hey sewer water soup with mutated octopus tentacles taste good

[dusk patrol]

Probably beats the gruel they normally get

[gray umbra]

The vat in rogue traders dlc looks gnarly

[queen laurel]

hey it tasted good

for low decker food

[dusk patrol]

Got a lucky week, depends on whose died recently

[shell mason]

.....what

[dusk patrol]

I mean uh, what?

Soylent Green Soup is totally normal

[crystal forum]

did your mortal enemy die recently

[shell mason]

You tell me gay jay

[dusk patrol]

kicks struggling hand back down into soup

[crystal forum]

i dont know such a person

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/cauldron-potion-brews-concoction-gold-coins-gif-13897980

[sour hornet]

Kibellah tried to drown me in the the bath. My attraction to her has not wavered.

Am I cooked?

[dusk patrol]

No but you are a simp

It’s terminal

[sour hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-mcu-exhale-thanos-infinity-stone-gif-16660976

[queen laurel]

Add to note also likes very sadistic girls and boys

[sour hornet]

STOP NOTICING THINGS ABOUT ME

[queen laurel]

Is a tiny bit paranoid that i will make fun of him for what he likes to simp for

[gray umbra]

I would simp for kibellah

Argentas laugh also makes me smile

[gaunt sable]

Glances towards Marazhai

[plush mason]

damn Abelard really hit her with the pot meet kettle comeback

[storm jungle]

Abelard is the same person calling low-deck workers "sub-human" so 💀

[arctic talon]

the poor aren't people Lord Captain

[tough haven]

I don’t see how anyone looks at this and doesn’t go, “hell yeah”

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[dusk patrol]

[hallow plover]

Our trusty senechal is just pointing facts

[gray umbra]

The imperium is like a boot

Sagenod

[dusk patrol]

If they wanted to be people, why would they be born below decks?

[crystal forum]

this is the reason i dont read the news anymore

i dont want to be reminded of the world which continues to exist, to everybody's disappointment

[tough haven]

Skill issue honestly

[opaque coyote]

The Blood Claws were waiting on him. ‘Think they’ll follow you?’ Kadir said, peering warily at the steading.

‘Would you, if you were them?’ Lukas shook his head. ‘No. They fear the forest, and with good reason.’

‘Cowards,’ Ake said.

Lukas looked at the young warrior. ‘Is that what you think?’

‘I would have hunted you,’ Ake growled pugnaciously.

‘Aye, maybe you would have.’ Lukas looked away, back towards the steading. He watched a knot of black figures hurry back to the safety of their hearths. ‘Have you pups ever wondered why we let them live like this? Why we let them suffer hardship and cruelty?’

‘To make them strong,’ Ake said, as if on cue.

Lukas laughed. ‘Pride,’ he said. ‘We have convinced ourselves that suffering builds character. Suffering builds nothing but walls. We settle for beasts when we could have men. All for pride.’ He looked around. ‘And that’s the biggest joke of all, pups. Best you remember that.’

Ake frowned. ‘I don’t think it’s funny.’

‘No.’ Lukas spread his arms. ‘Pride eats at us, every one. Like a maggot in a wound. Russ was proud, and so too must we be proud, whatever the consequences.’

‘We must endure, we must persevere, we must be worthy,’ Ake said stubbornly. ‘That is the way of it, Trickster. Else why were any of us chosen?’ He struck a tree with the side of his fist. ‘Because we survived. We were worthy.’

‘Survival is a test of nothing more than endurance. If it were anything else, I would never have been chosen, and yet I was. Luck.’ Lukas smiled as he spoke. This wasn’t the first time they’d had this argument since they were cast out of the Aett. Nor would it be the last. But at least they were listening. Maybe they had even learned something.

‘It has ever been thus,’ Halvar began.

Lukas laughed again, louder this time. ‘Maybe. But why?’ He brought his palms together in a loud crack. ‘Pride. Down here, mortals suffer for our pride. On other worlds, controlled by other Chapters, they live in peace. They don’t suffer as we suffer, and yet they produce warriors of equal skill.’

He noted the frustration in their faces. The lack of comprehension. ‘None are greater than the Rout,’ Dag said. Not angrily, but as if it were no more than simple fact. ‘We are the Allfather’s chosen warriors.’

‘Oh, we like to pretend that we are better – that our savagery makes us strong. But it’s a lie, told by old men who were themselves lied to by those who came before. Worst of all, we all know the lie for what it is. But we accept it, because to do otherwise is to admit that somewhere along the way we made a mistake.’ Lukas grinned. ‘More than one.’

Ake bared his teeth. ‘And your answer to this revelation is... What? Mockery?’

Lukas shrugged. ‘Can you think of a better response? We are nothing more than the largest, strongest pack of wolves on this frozen mud ball. And that is all we will ever be.’

‘A poor life,’ Halvar said. ‘Muddying the glories of others.’

‘Glory is for the dead,’ Lukas said. ‘The living must be reminded of that, so that they don’t lose themselves in sagas.’ He thumped his chest. ‘So that we don’t become that which we fear most – beasts, and worse than beasts, following a false scent to our doom.’ He pointed to the steading. ‘That is why I feed them. They are my pack, pups, as you are. Do you see?’

Looking at their faces, he knew they did not. Not really. Not yet. But they might, in time. He shrugged, and smiled. ‘Or maybe this is all a lie, a ruse to make my pranks seem more than they are. Maybe I am simply the spiteful Jackalwolf, content to rip at the guts of my own pack for my own amusement.’

‘The other one makes for a better saga,’ Dag said after a moment.

Lukas clapped him companionably on the shoulder. ‘That’s what I tell myself, brother.’ He smiled. ‘Now, I don’t know about you, but I’m hungry again. Let’s go find another elk.’ He grinned at Ake. ‘Maybe I’ll even let Ake make the kill this time.’

An excerpt from Lukas the Trickster

[green loom]

I should read that book

[opaque coyote]

It's extremely telling about the entire chapter, that the guy who's trying to get it through the bloodclaw's thick ass heads that they are slaves to the pride of people and ideals long, long dead, has been banished more than 6 times.

[dusk patrol]

It’s not quite that simple tbh

[rose thorn]

He’s classist enough that it’s an issue but nice enough that he can stick around

[dusk patrol]

There’s other parts of the book show there’s more to it than Lukas says

Or alternative views

He’s not totally wrong but he also overly simplifies stuff

Stuff like the Wulfen curse and other things mean their clinging to their culture has a lot merit and keeps them grounded

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think the book mentions that the reason why the Jarls hold so tightly to the culture is the fear of what they'll become without it

[green loom]

He's also probably dumbing it down because in the excerpt he seems to be very aware he's talking to basically brick walls

[dusk patrol]

He’s smart but he’s also not as smart as he thinks he is nor is the only SW whose thought of this stuff

[opaque coyote]

He is right that they really don't need to leave the people of Fenris to suffer

[dusk patrol]

He’s also kept around by Grimnar and the other SW leaders a reason

[opaque coyote]

Like he said : "On other worlds, controlled by other Chapters, they live in peace. They don’t suffer as we suffer, and yet they produce warriors of equal skill."

[dusk patrol]

It’s a debatable fact and also it doesn’t go into how many kids they go through to get marines

[opaque coyote]

An alternative viewpoint to reign the wolves back

[dusk patrol]

Worlds like Fenris produce a lot of marines for how small their population is

[opaque coyote]

Yeah even the adults had more capability if I remember correctly?

Like out of hundreds of adult warriors that Russ converted, 40 survived

Which is a huge number for adults, to the point where the Emperor was surprised

[dusk patrol]

The question is what would they lose if they didn’t have that and what would they become

[opaque coyote]

"There are no wolves on Fenris"

[dusk patrol]

And if the cost of a single low population world sucking is worth the benefit the chapter has for the imperium

[opaque coyote]

Honestly that line is singlehandely one of the most disturbing lines

well one out of 500+ since it's 40k

But the implications just from that line are disturbing

wulfen moment

[dusk patrol]

It’s not totally different from the idea of if “civilizing” cultures irl is good or not

If we have a right to

And is the civilization 40k provides better

[opaque coyote]

Honestly Fenris is such a hellhole that the answer might be a maybe

[dusk patrol]

Does someone who grows up in a hive have it better than someone on Fenris or Catachan?

Idk

Basically I dont think it’s as simple as he makes it out

[opaque coyote]

Fenris, don't know

Catachan, yes 100%

That place is hell

Actually it's worse than hell

Daemons literally get eaten by the planet

[dusk patrol]

Is it though? Like, people from Catachan don’t know different

They do get to live outside and breath real air

[storm jungle]

I mean its bad.

[dusk patrol]

As opposed never seeing the sun

[storm jungle]

we arent suppose to think from their POV

both are horrible lol

[dusk patrol]

They both are but my point is you have to think from their pov

[storm jungle]

Not really.

The point is the absurdity of it

its what makes Catachan as a regiment and planet funny

same with Fenris

and every death world in lore

[dusk patrol]

If you wanna be super reductive sure

[storm jungle]

Its not being reductive but sure

[misty vector]

a planet filled with like predator and rambo movie action heroes

[storm jungle]

New Zealand

[dusk patrol]

It is, the point is who living more of a life, someone who lives in a hive and mindlessly doing labor all their life and never breathing real air or seeing the sun, or someone living a more brutal life on Catachan or whatever where it sucks but they are getting to move around and experience more and maybe even get to have a life in the guard, as much as it sucks compared to our lives, which would actually be worse?

[storm jungle]

It's really not. This is the same logic as those weirdos who defend ancient cultures for their awful ways because "its just what it is". Theres nothing wrong with looking at it from a modern lens + where we are now as a generally normal and stable society.

Life is still better than what it was back in those periods that 40k takes a ton of inspiration from.

Its made for black comedy and grimdark factors, they are all awful lol

[dusk patrol]

I’m not defending it I’m saying there’s a comparison, if you wanna not be super reductive and just shut the conversation down which is there

[forest orbit]

Its all bad tbh.

I dont really get the point in arguing this lol

[forest orbit]

This is also just a reach

[crisp heath]

Bro I do not have to fight off wolves that stand 6 foot at the shoulder on the shores of a magma lake over the carcass of a deer so I can feed my sister with the Brain Exploding Virus before her brain explodes

[storm jungle]

We need to go back....

[storm jungle]

but also yeah nobody is shutting down a conversation but ok pal lol

[misty vector]

feel like the hive world would be better

[forest orbit]

I dunno man

do you like sifting through literal shitwater for food

or just basically anything that happens in slums but way worse

[dusk patrol]

I mean I’d probably prefer the chance at something maybe of a life however much it would suck on Catachan than the existence most hive world people have

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the problem with comparing Hive World and Catachan is that both are a different flavor of suffering

[forest orbit]

Yep.

Like i would rather die than choose lmao

[dusk patrol]

It a hypothetical it’s not supposed to be some ideal scenario

[forest orbit]

"Which sandwich should I eat. Shit toppings or toxic sevage."

[opaque coyote]

Either sift through shitwater for a scrap of food, eat it and slowly suffer from several diseases until you die.

Or sift through plants, hoping one doesn't come alive and suck out all of your blood for hours until you die.

[storm jungle]

Pretty much not too different from IRL

once again the satire of 40k is timeless

bravo Vince!

[gray umbra]

Whats your preferred amputation method: heavy machinery or brushing against a catachan tulip

[near wasp]

Lathes terrify me so give me the tulip

[misty vector]

best case scenario youd probably join a cult and live in delusion

[near wasp]

Your always in a cult in 40k

Yes even the greater good is a cult

[opaque coyote]

what about the necrons

they technically don't have a religion... anymore

i mean they killed their gods and now use them as weapons lmao

[misty vector]

aye true not too different from the ecclesiarchy i guess lol

[near wasp]

It's a cult of personality

They worship there kings

[gray umbra]

Join a workers union for better conditions.

BAM tzeentch cult and youre cutting down some guy with your crab claws

[near wasp]

That's not unfeasible. The union wants change

[misty vector]

should have known when you saw the beaks....

[near wasp]

It'd probably take a lot of time but a whisper here and there and suddenly your sacrificing nine score of your coworkers

[gray umbra]

Thats the point lol

40k is such a shithole theres valid reasons to oppress people

Oh the prison warden is treating his prisoners with some basic decency?

Probably a chaos cultist

And then he is

[dusk patrol]

Well duh the signs were there

He was letting them sleep

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-times-montagne-r6-siege-gif-20878694

that random ogryn

[opaque coyote]

I think it's funny that even though the universe kinda encourages oppression

Somehow the Imperium still takes it way too far and is way too brutal

To the point where most of the chaos incursions wouldn't be there if the Imperium learned how to actually be not complete assholes

Like I bet most Chaos cults don't even offer the lofty shit cults usually offer

A meaning of life

The answers to our existence

Self improvement

No all they literally need to do is to say

"Hey do you want more than 6 rations per week?"

And there you fucking go

[gray umbra]

Sounds heretical to me

But yeah lol

[opaque coyote]

"But Bob, they're offering us 9 rations per week! That's much more than what we have. What will go wrong?"

Ten seconds later

"KILL MAIM BURN KILL MAIM BU-"

Video stops

"And that is why kids, you shouldn't accept any offers to join a cult even for benefits. Remember: Stay Hungry, Stay Vigilant."

++Thought of the Day: An open mind is like a fortress unguarded with its gates open.++

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I kinda wish there was shit like Starship troopers commercials for the Imperium

It would be fun to make fictional propaganda

[gray umbra]

Honestly frustration turning to khorne worship is a pretty easy transition

Im sure there is

Just like in the form of like some random ecclesiarchy guy in the town square

[opaque coyote]

Not really

The closest thing we really have is the Thought of the Day messages

[gray umbra]

Yeah not exactly like starship troopers but theres propaganda for sure

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I kinda want to like make some Imperium and Tau propaganda

If only because it'd be fun

[snow fern]

Love me some good satire

[opaque coyote]

Honestly the funniest thing about it is that the Tau probably don't even need to exaggerate much

They just need to like

Take a picture of a Space Marine ripping apart some poor Gue'vesa or T'au

And then be like

"Is this truly your angel?"

And then have a cartoon of a Battlesuit blasting apart a Space Marine

"These 'Angels' are not so Immortal after all!"

That kind of shit

I could also do like

Food comparison

The Tau basically have Asian adjacent food

Like I think they literally just described Ramen

[gray umbra]

This is some fine imperial propaganda

[shell mason]

warhammer kids

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah that book is terrible

Why did they ever think that was a good idea