40k-lore-chat

[low gazelle]

little did I know

[storm jungle]

Decent is underplaying it

its genuinely amazing

it made Ennis so mad he made a cringe response comic to it lol

[arctic talon]

I haven't watched any of the newer stuff

past season 3

[storm jungle]

damn man you suck

[arctic talon]

smh

[low gazelle]

tbf the recent season was unhinged af theyy pushed that sh to the max

[arctic talon]

I liked the first 3 a lot

I just don't want to like

say any shit

about the newer stuff

so I'm going to be conservative with my rating lol

[storm jungle]

Nah it was still pretty good

[low gazelle]

IT WAS

[desert dust]

Same s4 of the boys and s3 of the bear are just unwatched for me and they were great

[low gazelle]

bbut it was just soo grotesque 😭

[storm jungle]

if you thought the stuff in S4 was gross you deffo should remember some of the things in the earlier seasons

💀

[low gazelle]

The dungeon

and the gooats

is where i was like

man i have bbeen sheltered

from real tv

[arctic talon]

Antman

[low gazelle]

the little spin off they did

[storm jungle]

Based as fuck

🗿

[arctic talon]

that scene

was so gross lol

[storm jungle]

also I do love how Invincible also went into that

and how that girl almost got fucking crushed inside that Komodo dude lmao

[low gazelle]

I loved that scene

[storm jungle]

i was like "Okay NOW I SEE why de-shrinking inside someone might be fucking bad"

[low gazelle]

Rex is bbest boy

[storm jungle]

I do wish she died there ngl, it would have made it better

her surviving is a bit lol

[arctic talon]

I mean

[low gazelle]

have u read the comics

[arctic talon]

they died in the comic

yeah

[low gazelle]

the invincibble comics are actually good

[arctic talon]

mhm

[storm jungle]

Read em all

pretty good journey

[arctic talon]

ngl

[low gazelle]

The one scene where he uhhh

iis in the pit

I thoougght they were ggonna show it

after the ship

cause it was so similar

[arctic talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNpDKIlCzPw

goes hard

lmao

[storm jungle]

they were absolutely teasing it

💀

[arctic talon]

💀

[low gazelle]

Marks a lucky man ifykyk

[arctic talon]

They did not adapt politically incorrect mark

smh

[low gazelle]

most people gotta pay for that bbut he ggot it for free 💀

[arctic talon]

they're saving the trauma for later

[low gazelle]

II watch like writingg videos and breaking down scene comparisons.

and every commenter was like

mommy? wish shed do that to me

and im just like

o k bbud

while marks just getting beat down

WAIT

This is a high standard

but if the warhammer show has like arcane levels of character writingg

omg itd be peak

[arctic talon]

Arcane has the upside of existing material

To work with

[low gazelle]

Yeah but it still introduces new characters

[arctic talon]

Mhm

[low gazelle]

and gets you invested in them

as much as the main ones

[arctic talon]

But again they come from existing regions with pre established cultures

Mel is a main character

Imo

At least by the second release chunk

[low gazelle]

Arcane I think is like

Peak writing

and character development

[arctic talon]

Riots lore team is very good

[arctic talon]

Mhm

Can’t wait for season 2

[low gazelle]

Halo could use them rigght noow

Im so jealous of fallout fans

theyy got a show dedicated and staying true to the wasteland

and whatd we gget.. a decent space soap opera

[arctic talon]

Halo show lul

[low gazelle]

Like if they had renamed it

and not used halo names

it wouldve bbeen fine

but its apart of an ip

that doesnt synergize with the bbooks or ggames

[arctic talon]

Isn’t it literally discontinued now

[low gazelle]

You presented it to a core group as halo and then we went in expecting military sci fi

[arctic talon]

Lol

[low gazelle]

yeah

[arctic talon]

Prolly for the best

[low gazelle]

theyy canceled after season 2

[arctic arch]

new to 40K and started watching lore videos. Finished SP2 and now playing this. Is there a good book about the Ravens or White Scars they seem the coolest to me.

[low gazelle]

Season 2 was bbetter imoo

[gray umbra]

Raven Guard?

[low gazelle]

My brother allow me to introduce you to, the necrons. The good guys of the 41st millenium

[low gazelle]

Apocalypse by Josh Reynolds (novel). for white scars in all seriousnous

[arctic talon]

Masters of the Hunt is a pretty good omnibus for white scars

Apocalypse is good yeah

That also

[low gazelle]

All they had to do was tweak the first games story a little to introduce moments that happened in the bbooks.

and you wouldve had a tv show representing the games and bbooks.

Then full circle with reach

Or start wiith fall of reach covering all the different fronts(and possibbly clarifyin whether the game oor the bbook is accurate)

[arctic arch]

I thought it was the Tau ?

[low gazelle]

not anymore

[arctic arch]

or the dwarfs

[low gazelle]

The rule of cool

whichever ffaction you think is cooolest

is the ggoood gguy

[arctic arch]

67 dollars for the book geesh

[low gazelle]

Oh my poor sweet potato

WH40k wants ur retiirement

The art of ggaragge sales and hand me doowns

The moment I see a moom selling their 30 to 40 year olds things

I jump at that

Especially if I see dice somewhere there

That is a stroong indicator

SO in warhammer theres just an entire universe ooff tyraniids slowly closingg in on our milky way?

[crisp heath]

I honestly don't think the Raven Guard ever got a good book

[arctic talon]

they have a good serise

[arctic arch]

can you point me to one thanks

[arctic talon]

I forgor the name

lol

[crystal forum]

rare elitewolf dementia moment

[dusk patrol]

Lonely Takemura sending you cat photos and stuff is so funny

And complaining about how terrible the food is

[low gazelle]

Could the angel of destruction turn the tide?

[humble creek]

did this guy's face was ever revealed?

and... is it actual skin he's wearing?

[arctic talon]

is it actual skin yeah probably

his face no

[languid meadow]

Skin is the fashion of the times

[arctic talon]

Both the imperium and chaos use human leather lol

[celest dome]

We prefer the term Human Vellum (the Imperium, probably )

[opaque coyote]

Honestly the only difference is that the Imperium will at least wait until the person's dead

Maybe

Chaos will do it while the person's alive for the free red dye!

[bold rampart]

looks like the basic cult fabric

it returns to the normal yellow hue at the top

[crystal zealot]

Is Titus related to the Emperor? Also is Imurah one of the chaos gods?

[celest dome]

No ?

And no

Just a Sorcerer of Tzeentch

What made you think that though

[bold rampart]

titus is the emperors step sister

[storm jungle]

And the Emperor is Titus’ cousin’s twice removed cousin

[bold rampart]

exactly

one big happy family

[crystal zealot]

Well i got interested in space marine 2 and im watching a video of all enemies. They're fighting a giant bird monster called Imurah in a place that seems to be the warp.
Also about Titus, the emperor speaks to him and says "Rise, son of Guilliman" and comments meme about guilliman being the emperors child?
In general all my info is from 1 video and 2 comments xD just my curiosity made me ask here

[crisp heath]

I mean Titus is sort of The Emperor's test tube grandson

Emperor made 21 test tube babies who in turn surgically implanted their genetic material into a bunch of teenagers and made space marines

[bold rampart]

hes got the emeprors geneseed 😩

[queen laurel]

you mean the lord of change?

Imurah is the marine

[storm jungle]

• The giant bird is a greater daemon called a Lord of Change, it isn't Imurah, he literally appears as himself in the fight

• The Emperor does not speak to Titus, thats literally Calgar's voice.

• Do not get your info for 40k from braindead youtube comment sections.

[crystal zealot]

Oh so Imurah is the small red guy and this bird monster is Lord of Change?

[queen laurel]

yes this is Imurah

[crystal zealot]

and follow up question, when you say "lord" is it one of many? is Nurgle one of them?

[paper haven]

Imura is the Traitor space marine

[bold rampart]

get your lore from reddit ^^

[queen laurel]

lords of change is the Greater daemon of tzeentch

[crisp heath]

There's lots of Lords of Change, they're Tzeentch's big boy servants

All the Chaos Gods get greater daemons

[crystal zealot]

Well about the voice, its said that it was "fixed" and now it just says "voice" and not Calgar anymore

[crisp heath]

Nurgle has Great Unclean Ones

[storm jungle]

I mean the fact that it was Calgar before kinda tells you what it is.

[paper haven]

It sounded like Calgar, but if it was someone else that doesn't really make a difference. Either way, Titus is a son of Guilliman.

[celest dome]

22

[crisp heath]

Are you counting the Angel?

[celest dome]

Are you not

[bold rampart]

get your lore from reddit, general darktide gameplay advice from the steam community and use the forums for uhhh, something..

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

[crisp heath]

Get lore from memes like everyone else

[storm jungle]

die

[paper haven]

How many primarchs are there?
18
20
19
22

[storm jungle]

18

originally 20

[celest dome]

Meme channel

[storm jungle]

the two missing primarchs were in the original batch

[bold rampart]

make sure to ping dilara regarding any and all server related questions, she is the only mod on this server

[celest dome]

21 or 22 at least
Alpharius/Omegon

[paper haven]

What ablut the twin primarchs?

[dusk patrol]

They said it was a mistake, the intent was/is that it’s ambiguous if Calgar said it, the Emperor did or it’s all in Titus’s head or whatever

[crisp heath]

If you ever say more than 9 the Inquisition would like to have a word with you

[storm jungle]

Eh doesnt matter.

Its gay either way.

[dusk patrol]

No

[storm jungle]

Yes

[dusk patrol]

Ur gay

Got em

[storm jungle]

Yes I know thank you

🗿

[dusk patrol]

And ur mum gay too

[storm jungle]

its also just while i appreciate the dicksucking titus gets

if its actually the Emperor thats kinda pushing it a bit imo

like Calgar PERSONALLY apologizing to him made me laugh a bit

[crisp heath]

He's been kinda chatty lately to be entirely fair

[storm jungle]

Yeah but like

in a more brain damaged way

literally

[paper haven]

God himself told Titus to stop being a bitch and walk it off.

[crisp heath]

Maybe he mistook Titus for Sicarius

[dusk patrol]

Maybe he wanted to make a cameo in the biggest 40k game so far

I do hope Titus gets to meet Guilliman eventually just so we get a properly rendered primarch model.

[bold rampart]

titus and girl man sex scene when

[storm jungle]

in the DLC probably

[dusk patrol]

Everytime someone finds the geneseed in SM2

[bold rampart]

looking forward to it

[dusk patrol]

“Whose gonna carry the cumbox?”

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/no-girls-allowed-pillow-fort-gif-5701283

[storm jungle]

Not gonna lie never gets old lol

had a dude asking us:

"What do I do with this?"

and i just went

"Your duty is to carry the cumbox."

[crisp heath]

The Emperor and the man who he lives with, the only person he's ever loved, who helped him produce and raise his children, who cried when the Emperor was mean to him, but like in a straight way

[storm jungle]

the emperor who DIDNT PAY MY MEDICAL BILLS?

[dusk patrol]

Why does it always gotta be gay, why can’t it just be two men enjoying each others bodies?

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[bold rampart]

based

[warm comet]

Is the geneseed literally just

His uh

[crisp heath]

No

[warm comet]

I can’t send it here it’ll block it

[crisp heath]

But it'd be funnier if it was

[warm comet]

Lameee

What is it?

[celest dome]

Balls ? No

[crisp heath]

Weird gene stuff

[bold rampart]

wouldnt you like to know? 😏

[celest dome]

Think it's supposed to be in the chest

[warm comet]

Geneseed in my mouth

[crisp heath]

I'm pretty sure it's in all the space marine organs, but the progenoid just makes a renewable supply of it

[storm jungle]

its basically a fictional organ they get that stores their genetic data during the first time they become a space marine

[bold rampart]

take a sip from the cumbox

[storm jungle]

BUT

once it was legit called gene-sperm lol

[warm comet]

They changed it?

40k ruined.

[crisp heath]

Because they're cowards

[storm jungle]

Ikr

[bold rampart]

wokeism got 40k

[paper haven]

Geneseed is literally just DNA

[crisp heath]

Almost as bad as Ian Watson's Imperial Fists no longer being "canon" or "accurate to the settings current image"

[bold rampart]

[warm comet]

Soon they’ll be taking away space marines being canonically hung

[celest dome]

Are they ?

[bold rampart]

of course youre thinking about space marine dick

[crisp heath]

In that one Grey Knight book its definitely heavily implied

[hollow fractal]

Lmao wtf

[warm comet]

Assuming they’re all of similar proportions of then yeah

An inquisitor jokes about it

[hollow fractal]

Are khorn mfs mad because they're hung like grots?

[celest dome]

But is it because he is a SM or that he was already hung before

[warm comet]

I think she was an inquisitor?

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/get-wet-wet-pirates-of-the-caribbean-davy-jones-ha-gif-17865873

[dusk patrol]

It’s not an inquisitor but yeah

An inquisition lady sees one naked showering and laments how they’re celibate/asexual

Which confuses the marine

[warm comet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/s/LJSsgE4MQg

[bold rampart]

seeing the primaris cheeks in person 🤤

[dusk patrol]

This is also the book where Bjorn comments on how a Inquisitor Lady from Fenris has beautiful raven black hair which is rare on Fenris and is beautiful herself, the Grey Knight doesn’t get how Bjorn can tell that she’s beautiful.

[hollow fractal]

Good thing the space marine the inquisitor lady saw wasn't a Salamander poor naive karker would think she was being friendly.

[paper haven]

That's because Grey Knights aren't interested in anything as petty as physical appearance. They're interested in the soul

[dusk patrol]

True

[bold rampart]

they like personality

[dusk patrol]

Bjorn is superficial and shallow

Smh

Red flag tbh

Big ick

[bold rampart]

huge ick

[paper haven]

"Her hair is pretty, Bjorn? Seriously?"
-The Grey Knight, probably.

[crisp heath]

Hyperion is also just the most asexual being to ever exist

He's not repulsed by sex, sex is repulsed by him

[bold rampart]

you just described every 40k fan

[paper haven]

You know when incels imagine their virginity as being a magical barrier?
Hyperion is what they think they are.

[crisp heath]

Like the book notably contrasts him to other space marines and even other grey knights in just how foreign the concept is to him

[dusk patrol]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/8oh331/book_excerptthe_emperors_gift_bjorn_meets_a/

It’s a pretty fun scene

Bjorn could definitely still get it

Got that Dreadrizz

[warm comet]

I love the idea of an inquisitor and her warband all showering and then there’s just a random space marine there

[bold rampart]

yeah but like how...

[warm comet]

I’ve also heard that they tend to stink

[bold rampart]

duh

[crisp heath]

Space Wolves definitely don't seem to be as neutered as other marines

[bold rampart]

all they do is fight

[crisp heath]

Like they definitely seem to appreciate female company

[paper haven]

Partially because they have to mature a bit faster being that the process to becoming a Space Wolf is super intense

[bold rampart]

omg horny killing machine

[crisp heath]

Bjorn was definitely trying to figure out if he could make it work, mechanically

[paper haven]

No that's the Emperor's Children

[bold rampart]

oh right

sex cult

[paper haven]

Sex cult but the only thing they understand is violence

[dusk patrol]

‘I am Ghesmei Kysnaros,’ he said to the Dreadnought. ‘A ranking lord in His Holy Majesty’s Inquisition.’ I was only peripherally aware of their conversation. The name inscribed on the sarcophagus couldn’t be real. If it was, it meant… Oh. Throne of Terra. ‘My lord,’ I said, as I went to one knee myself. The Dreadnought turned slightly on its waist axis, with a low growl of sacred mechanics. ‘Enough of this. Get up.’ ‘…and a duly appointed representative of the God-Emperor…’ Kysnaros finished, still unsure where to look. ‘God-Emperor?’ The Dreadnought made the sound of gears slipping, grinding together. From the booming augmetic tone, I assumed it was supposed to be laughter. Either that, or an internal weapons system reloading. ‘Calling him a god was how all this mess started.’ Kysnaros was wrong-footed again, thrice now in a single minute. ‘What do you… I don’t–’ ‘Nothing. Times change, and that’s the truth of it.’ The war machine turned again, facing all three of us. ‘Now. What brings you into the night sky above Fenris, and why shouldn’t I break your little fleet into pieces with this castle’s many, many guns?’ The Lord Inquisitor straightened his back at that. ‘Please name yourself, sir, as I have done. Then negotiations may begin in good faith.’ ‘Are you blind, little man? It’s written on my coffin.’ I couldn’t let this go on any longer. Not only was it blasphemy, it bordered on excruciating. +His name is Bjorn, called the Fell-Handed. First Great Wolf of the Chapter, and second High King of Fenris after Jarl Russ, the primarch himself. They woke him to deal with us.+ Kysnaros’s eyes never left the armoured shell, and the black iron coffin bound on its front. ‘You… You walked in the Age of the Emperor?’ Bjorn made the gear-grinding chuckle again. ‘Walked, ran, pissed and killed. I did it all. I met the Allfather, you know. Fought at his side more than once. I do believe he liked me.’ Kysnaros slowly, slowly went to his knees. ‘Oh, for… Not you as well

[bold rampart]

hey, sounds fun

holy shit

[dusk patrol]

This bit is fun too

[crisp heath]

Imperial Fists exaggerating minor infractions so the chaplain will put them in the black bodyglove that hurts them

[warm comet]

This is a slippery slope to SM x SoB fanfic

[crisp heath]

SoB went to catholic school

[warm comet]

Warhammer Highschool anime

Adeptus-san?!

[paper haven]

A dreadnaught laughing at calling the Emperor a God to an inquisitor's face is amazing.

[warm comet]

Idrk what inquisitors can do

But like, it’s a dreadnought right? Does it have anything to be scared of?

[bold rampart]

anything? almost anything?

[paper haven]

Pretty much whatever they want.

At least without legal consquence

[bold rampart]

they are very much above general law but other inquisitors can punish them i think

or high anking ones at least

[paper haven]

Like he could shoot at Bjorn and it wouldn't be illegal. However, Bjorn would just turn him into a smear on the floor.

[bold rampart]

like a council or some bs

[warm comet]

Right yeah but face-to-face, surely a drwadnought couldn’t care less?

[paper haven]

Space marines generally don't care what Inquisitors demand because they have more guns.

[pine wedge]

the Inquisition answers only to the Emperor. individual Inquisitors can be judged and hunted by a trial of their peers. in practical terms, though, the Space Marines are largely ungovernable, and a Dreadnought from a Loyalist Chapter can mostly say whatever it wants to an Inquisitor whenever it is face to face with one. taking punitive action against a Space Marine is always very tricky.

[storm jungle]

Celestial Lions Moment

[pine wedge]

there's a tacit ageement that the Chapters sort their own shit out, with Chaplains functioning somewhat like the Inquisitors for their own battle-brothers. if a whole Chapter goes Renegade or falls to Chaos, other Space Marines are required to fight them (e.g. the Badab War). the legal authority of an Inquisitor is limitless, but their ability to enforce it is only as strong as the force they wield in that moment

[crisp heath]

This was literally an event that happened in the middle of the Months of Shame

[celest dome]

If you mean situations like Titus and people thinking it should have been dealt with the Chaplains ?

[paper haven]

Unfortunate for them, certainly

[warm comet]

How does only answering to the emperor work lol?

[crisp heath]

The whole story is about "what will an inquisitor do if a space marine tells them no"

[crisp heath]

It doesn't that's the point

[warm comet]

LOL

[dusk patrol]

It means whoever has bigger guns is right

[pine wedge]

something like that. the Ultramarines would never have allowed the Inquisition to take Titus away if more of the Chapter was there in full force. I bet they would have demanded that he be turned over to their own Chaplains for investigation instead. it only happened the way it did because Leandros chatted up the Inquisitors before the rest of the Ultramarines got there

[warm comet]

“Let us consult the emperor” turns to skeleton

[pine wedge]

it means that nobody in the hierarchy of the Imperium has the authority to tell an Inquisitor what to do.

[dusk patrol]

Their authority is god effectively

[crisp heath]

I mean there's enough psyker inquisitors I'm sure at least a few actually consult the tarot

[dusk patrol]

The point is it gets political

[green loom]

They didn't disapprove of Leandros but they weren't happy with how the inquisitor handled it

[warm comet]

I swear like half the groups in humanity are like this though

I get the impression that no sub faction really listens to any others

[storm jungle]

I mean yeah

the Imperium is suppose to be dysfunctional lol

[dusk patrol]

They don’t like to at least

[crisp heath]

Nah most of them are under the Adeptus Terra which actually has a hierarchy

[storm jungle]

Im glad we dont have such governmental bodies IRL

[pine wedge]

oh yeah absolutely but that's the difference between de facto and de jure

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

It’s basically a feudal state

[green loom]

Welcome to the Imperium, you got the message!

[crisp heath]

But they will try to outshoot each other and cover it up if they think they can

[celest dome]

Well there are only 1 group where no one but themselves and select fews can order them.
Custodes.

[green loom]

Take pride in being one of a decided minority among imperial fans

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah lol

an Inquisitor can do nothing against a Custodes aside from trying to stronghand them and prob get into a fight and die

[dusk patrol]

Except we see plenty still fight them when it comes down to brass tax

Which is the point

[crisp heath]

The administratum is the most powerful faction

[dusk patrol]

At a certain level what matters isn’t your legal power

But if you can back it up with force

[celest dome]

Just because you can't order them doesn't mean you can't fight them

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

Technically Custodes and Inquisitors claim the same authority

[warm comet]

Me when the priests who make my iPhone are having a civil war with the army

[storm jungle]

I mean the Custodian is still superior

and if it comes down to fighting the Custodians will mostly win lol

[dusk patrol]

Custodes can’t order Inquisitors either technically

It doesn’t matter because they still will

By force

[storm jungle]

Yeah and die in the attempt so

Unless they are far away in macro-cannon range or something kek

[dusk patrol]

Same with how inquisitors have the power to order marine chapters, but they often can’t for some because force is what matters

[warm comet]

I know nothing about custodes honestly other than that they’re incredible

Idk what they are or why they are

[dusk patrol]

Or they don’t have the political pull or whatever

[storm jungle]

Bigger and badderer transhumans

[crisp heath]

God an inquisition guy whose only job is kill specific custodes with an orbital strike would be a great gag character

[paper haven]

Space marine chapters are supposed to handle such matters internally.

[celest dome]

The Imperium work on networking. More so for an Inquisitor, where you don't have power over SM, but you can have some SM who owe you one (or that you have dirt on)

[dusk patrol]

They do have power over SM

Technically

[celest dome]

And then use those SM to threaten other SM

[dusk patrol]

But in actuality it’s complicated

Especially when you get into the first founding and other important big name chapters

[storm jungle]

[paper haven]

I'm fairly certain that Custodes are considered The voice of The Emperor whenever conflicts arise.

[celest dome]

Not directly, which is why people argue about the SM1 end with Titus and Leandros

[dusk patrol]

Where’s that fucking GoT scene

[pine wedge]

more advanced science magic is used to create them. they exist to protect the physical body of the Emperor on Terra mostly, but sometimes they travel into the galaxy. there are 1 million space marines and only 10k custodes.

[dusk patrol]

They have direct power

[crisp heath]

This convo literally started because someone quoted a novel set during the Months of Shame

[storm jungle]

Ikr its great

[dusk patrol]

They can order marine chapters around and prosecute them

[storm jungle]

Love nonsense convos like this

just fucking say "it depends"

[dusk patrol]

Legally they can, but in actuality it’s complicated

That’s what I’m literally saying

De facto vs de jure power as said before

[celest dome]

They can't requisition a SM Chapter in the same way that they could an Imperial Guard Regiment.

[dusk patrol]

They can

And do

[storm jungle]

They can and cant

[dusk patrol]

But it’s harder and they need more pull

[storm jungle]

again, it depends

[dusk patrol]

But their authority lets them legally

[celest dome]

They use their relations to do so, IG they can simply order it

[dusk patrol]

If they can actually do so depends on their political power and pull

[dusk patrol]

No

They have authority over chapters

[warm comet]

This is complicated and silly
This is why orks is da best

[dusk patrol]

And some chapters can’t afford to say no

[queen laurel]

Death cults aren't an official assassin group by the assassinurum right

[warm comet]

Who’s in charge? The biggest ork

[storm jungle]

Nah they are just offshoot cults

[storm jungle]

This entire "debate is"

• They cant do it but they also can do it

[queen laurel]

Yeah some belong to the blood god some just very very crazy zealots

[celest dome]

Just a whole type of cult of the Emperor
Kinda like Crusader, they aren't a mono group

[queen laurel]

Yeah but i will admit though they have some cool assassins

That blade dance animation was sick

[warm comet]

Far too complicated

[storm jungle]

Its basically women and guys wearing BDSM latex

cant complain

[dusk patrol]

They’re slightly unhinged

[storm jungle]

Id post that Kibellah clip where she asks oyu to stab her in the eye if i could

[warm comet]

Send it

[queen laurel]

Watch this woman carry a giant power scimitar bisect a man in two

[warm comet]

Ew heresy

[celest dome]

Hope we see Death Cult Power weapon for the Zealot.
Have them all be Kerillian's maybe ?

[green loom]

I could use more death cult twinks

[queen laurel]

shame Rogue Trader wiki sucks

a good chunk of info is not there

[crystal forum]

i cant wait for more obscure guard regiments to get full uniforms in game

my hope is eventually all the big ones will be done so weird shit like the indentured servitude regiment will get cosmetics

[rose thorn]

Is warhammer community broken for anyone else?

[storm jungle]

Nope broken for me too

[green loom]

The US site is broken I think

[rocky gale]

Dead, they sent me an email about the Killteam rules being released, but it's dead

Wait

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/all-news-and-features/

It works if you go into Menu and "All news"

[green loom]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xfV8vUOg/download-the-kill-team-app-and-faction-rules-today/

[queen laurel]

same here

[crystal forum]

when they remake the website but dont put in the effort to make it stable

[rose thorn]

It was working fine before, this isn’t like the warhammer.com where it was broken from the start

[crystal forum]

it was broken for me the day when they switched

on mobile at least

[raven stone]

GW just making so much cash from selling the IP to software developers and miniature fans they can shit on everything else and get away with it...

[pine wedge]

not so much the former

wayyyy more the latter

[raven stone]

Huh.

Well at least it is a wee bit heartwarming to know they haven't strayed from their core.

Just that they still don't give enough shit :p

[pine wedge]

95 million pounds of profit in the 2nd half of 2023 btw

GW is eating good

[pine wedge]

they are, first and foremost, a figurine company. everything else that they do is only in support of that goal: sell more minis.

[raven stone]

Very true

[rocky gale]

Was watching something recently and it basically said that one of the big the reasons GW holds market dominance with 40k is actually because of LOTR, basically the movies came out and GW got the licence to make models and game to coincide with it, then because the movies were huge they made a ton of money and they invested all those profits from LOTR into 40k.

[raven stone]

Sometimes at detriment to thr tabletop balance, sadly, but true.

[rocky gale]

Basically it allowed them to invest more into 40k as a brand than their competitors were able to invest into their own projects

[raven stone]

...really weird how 40k fans do owe that much to LOTR franchise

[queen laurel]

no wonder they are willing to spend some extra cash on the Tithes

[raven stone]

Even discounting a certain nut job demographic that those two often appeal to

Although I think I pinpointed another oddity I felt with Primaris

[shell mason]

sup nerds

[raven stone]

Their new design feels oddly a bit too...Sci fi sleek

[shell mason]

what did i miss?

[raven stone]

Discussion about how GW makes Moolah

[shell mason]

whose new design?

[pine wedge]

Oh yeah I remember the LotR mini range being pretty prominently displayed when I first walked into a GW shop

[raven stone]

Primaris marines

Compared to 40k era firstborns

[rocky gale]

Yea for a while it was sort of their headline and overtook Warhammer products because of the sheer scale of the success of the movies

[storm jungle]

Also White Dwarf actively advertised movie tie-in models and the productions of the films themselves, they were absolutely cashing in and making bank

[rocky gale]

Like most stores at the time would have Helms Deep dioramas instead of 40k or Fantasy ones

But I guess it's also indicative that GW can be real smart when they want to

Like instead of investing all that profit back into the LOTR game they invested it into 40k and Fantasy because they knew the LOTR bump would be temporary

[shell mason]

got something I can use as a reference?

[raven stone]

Let us use Marneus Calgar as comparison. Below is a Colourized 3rd edition ish art

[storm jungle]

[raven stone]

Primaris Calgar

The old art had that slightly more brutalist, angular, rigid mobility take

[rocky gale]

He took his first steps, congrats

[raven stone]

The new one looks Sci Fi sleek lines

Which...makes it a bit less unique for Sci Fi takes

IIRC we are in agreement Primaris is a mistake lol

Everything could have happened without it

[storm jungle]

I mean they are very much badly implemented and not good

but consumers are good little paypigs so lol

[raven stone]

I, to this day, refuse to buy anything Primaris (or so scaled).

To the point I would rather switch armies lol.

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/deus-ex-deus-ex-jc-shame-gif-26245854

[storm jungle]

id only buy em if i could swap all the helmets with firstborn

but i aint wasting money on that like a chump

[gray umbra]

Gw execs sweating about their end of year bonus

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sheepdog-sheep-dog-blending-in-gif-25408874

the GW customer base goes CRAZY

[shadow plover]

eh, the primaris kits are absolutely stellar kits to work on and get started on modelling so that too factors into how popular they are

[storm jungle]

Eh, nah

[forest orbit]

They are good fo what they are more or less

[shadow plover]

absolutely does

[forest orbit]

again people love basic content

and I say this as a guy with a BT army lol

even if primaris is cringe maximo

[shadow plover]

they're the easiest to build and paint

[forest orbit]

Well yeah

you gotta brainwash your young audience

why wouldnt it be easy

[storm jungle]

LOL

not wrong

[raven stone]

Marines had always been the starter faction

So I don't hold that against Primaris, ironically

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much this.

saying "space marines sell well and are easy to paint" has been a thing since like the 90's lol

[raven stone]

Just the degradation into "general sleek Sci fi design" rubs me the wrong way

[shadow plover]

well yeah and they keep improving on that, primaris are easier to build and paint than first born marines

[raven stone]

That and GW shooting themselves in the foot by forcing apart 30k and 40k

[rocky gale]

Primaris better

[raven stone]

To each their own 😅

[storm jungle]

Terrible.

[dusk patrol]

Ok but have you considered new popular thing bad?

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-kazuma-yakuza6-yakuza-yakuza-opinion-gif-25359738

[shadow plover]

Too easy mindset

[storm jungle]

Theres plenty reasons to dislike Primaris

idk why people act like it doesnt lol

[forest orbit]

It kinda goes beyond "new thing bad" yeah

its just badly done and the aesthetic sucks, its a pretty normal complaint

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

[forest orbit]

Then again explaining this to space marine fans (me included) is like talking to a brick wall so i digress 😔

[crystal forum]

i dont like the wack a mole nature of primaris

[forest orbit]

This especially

its a dumbass system

the books trying to explain it makes it even funnier though

[crystal forum]

changing whatever they feel like will be improved

[forest orbit]

They also say this makes them less tactically adapt in the novels

which is like

yeah no shit

kek

[shadow plover]

It's a way healthier system for the game but lore reasoning is whatever

[forest orbit]

Fuck the tabletop

Im talking LORE

[shadow plover]

lore comes after so

[forest orbit]

I mean even if it does idc

its dumb

lol

[crystal forum]

is it? you have to buy a lot more plastic to fill in a playstyle

[forest orbit]

Eh its not that bad

its so and so

[raven stone]

And really just go back to old Legiones org if they want units to be hyper soecialized

[dusk patrol]

Just like there is for anything, it doesn’t stop a lot of the complaints being the same song and dance as always

[shadow plover]

the game works a lot better and faster without having the need to roll a different attack for every model in a squad every squad

[storm jungle]

Complaints can always be valid and invalid depending on the context.

As ever if you dont like seeing it the door is over there

[forest orbit]

It just feels clunky

its kinda why i stopped playing and just paint rn

[dusk patrol]

Especially when people act like “aesthetic” and “style” choices are objective metrics you can judge something on.

It might not work for you, which is fine, it doesn’t mean it’s bad.

[crystal forum]

im thankful they at least added HH for the players who care less about the optimal playstyle

[forest orbit]

I mean when theres a big popular opinion that dont like it as much as people that like it it doesnt matter.

[dusk patrol]

There’s no end of models or whatever I don’t personally love which I don’t think are immediately bad besides of this

[forest orbit]

you act like the people that dont like it are a small number or something

[crystal forum]

but HH updates are so slow it's lame

[storm jungle]

I mean its HH

[dusk patrol]

Based off the sales numbers GW has been sporting that’s a very loud minority

[rocky gale]

They kinda are tbh

[dusk patrol]

It’s obviously working for a shitton of people

[forest orbit]

Im not talking about sales tbh

[crystal forum]

also retiring so many models to HH for guard specifically

[forest orbit]

im talking about aesthetics and lore stuff

people will buy space marines no matter what they do with them lol

[dusk patrol]

Which to be clear I have lots of qualms with primaris aesthetics and I get not liking it, but it doesn’t mean it’s bad

[forest orbit]

Its very much bad on most parts.

[shadow plover]

yeah this

[forest orbit]

idk why theres some weird need to just always go against people not liking certain parts of them

[dusk patrol]

Obviously not considering they were having a huge crisis prior to 2015-16

[forest orbit]

Yeah a crisis so big we are already back to the norm

[dusk patrol]

And they completely redid the setting and changed course drastically

[forest orbit]

and theres nothing wrong with the range again

so you know

[dusk patrol]

Are we really gonna pretend they didn’t change a lot now?

Like come on

[forest orbit]

Whos saying that 💀

[crystal forum]

i think repulsors were a bad choice to replace rhinos

[dusk patrol]

I dislike a lot of their vehicles

[forest orbit]

Theres a lot of units that are just straight up bad aesthetically

[dusk patrol]

And the naming scheme in general

[forest orbit]

Repulsors are prob the top ones

[crystal forum]

i dont like assembling tracks but dollar store hover is not better

[forest orbit]

its basically tryhard UNSC

I really do just miss Tactical Marines

and the more brutalist aesthetic

[crystal forum]

like you cant replace the iconic rhinos and land raiders

[shadow plover]

howering tanks are fucking cool, but not every tank should be one

[rocky gale]

Will say the new repulsor vehicles aren't great, but then again never been a huge fan of Space Marine vehicles in general

[forest orbit]

Just sprinkle in some here and there

[forest orbit]

Get out

[crystal forum]

land raiders especially

[shadow plover]

I like the Gladiator, Repulsor is too much

[forest orbit]

I mean

they are basically the same thing

lol

[rocky gale]

When it comes to Space Marines I'm only really a fan of the infantry and the Dreadnoughts

[dusk patrol]

I would be shocked if there’s a single model line of any expansiveness GW has done which I like everything about it.

[shadow plover]

Gladiator is a lot better proportioned

[dusk patrol]

Especially when you have one with so many models like the SM line. That doesn’t mean it’s bad though.

[rocky gale]

and then only the Primaris versions

[dusk patrol]

I don’t need to love every single thing

And a few models I don’t care for doesn’t make it bad either

[shadow plover]

and yeah the Dreads are fucking great, but I do wish they'd have a new boxnought kit as well

[forest orbit]

Not happening so gotta get used to no-leg-day Dreads

[forest orbit]

Theres definitely still awful models tbh

Desolators my unbeloved

[rocky gale]

They're better anyway

[shadow plover]

that doesn't really work when the old boxdreads had sticks for legs

[storm jungle]

Honorable ATV mention anyone

[forest orbit]

yeah and it looked cool

so you know

[rocky gale]

Hmmm

[storm jungle]

perish

[shadow plover]

rare self-perish

[rocky gale]

NGL I don't hate the ATV

[storm jungle]

Genuinely explode

[rocky gale]

Like it's not great, but it's not awful

[shadow plover]

it's not as bad as the attack bike for sure

[storm jungle]

its literally a fuckig mariokart

[crystal forum]

when the brother doesn't have his motorcycle license

[forest orbit]

Relatable.

[storm jungle]

Can they add these to SM2 so i can speedrun the snoozefest Operations faster pls

maybe then ill like em

[crystal forum]

they made the land speeder a gokart and made the rhino a hover tank

[storm jungle]

[rocky gale]

Like I personally think it's better than the Firstborn battle sidecar

[crystal forum]

both can be trash

land speeder was so cool

[rocky gale]

Still an improvement

[storm jungle]

Pretty much this.

Like, theres no need to look for good in junk

please, stop it 😔

[dusk patrol]

ATV gets improved a lot by raising the wheels or changing the wheels.

[rocky gale]

ATV wasn't the replacement for the Land Speeder, that's the Storm Speeder

[storm jungle]

Nah the design of the thing itself is just bad

[storm jungle]

space marines riding go-karts is just fucking awful as an idea

[rocky gale]

This replaced the Land Raider

[storm jungle]

bikes I can kinda get

[shadow plover]

these are fucking great

[crystal forum]

i forgot this existed

[shadow plover]

brother tinnitus is a bit much though

[storm jungle]

yo its that one car from GTA Online

[dusk patrol]

Once again we’re doing the “opinion as fact” thing

[rocky gale]

ATV was replacement for the Attack Bike, Land Speeder was replaced by Storm Speeder

[forest orbit]

I have not seen a single person field this thing in 4 years from the matches i went to

actually wait I THINK I saw like... two?

idk i forgot

[crystal forum]

lots of units im surprised GW doesnt cull in primaris

[forest orbit]

They will i nthe future prob

but like, not anytime soon lol

[crystal forum]

maybe they just dont want to waste the moulds or something idk

[forest orbit]

Atm its culling Firstborn

which is understandable

the bloat will get dealt with later as per quota

[crystal forum]

like suppressors and invictor warsuit

[storm jungle]

Its a lot of factors but mould is one of them sometimes, though like not at the top of the list.

[crystal forum]

genuinely surprised centurions are still around

[forest orbit]

They're prob also gonna get phased out

[crystal forum]

i hope they get primaris

[dusk patrol]

Firestrike turret though

That’s pretty silly

[storm jungle]

its a fucking stationary turret

[crystal forum]

it's a hover turret with melee attacks

[shadow plover]

it replaced my beloved thunderstrike...

[storm jungle]

WAIT

[dusk patrol]

But it does have some cool conversions

[storm jungle]

IT HOVERS?

[shadow plover]

ACTUALLY, it has hoverplates

[crystal forum]

yes

lol

[storm jungle]

THE FUCK

LOL

[crystal forum]

there's a meme about this

[storm jungle]

Oh my god im losing my mind

[forest orbit]

YOU DIDNT KNOW?

[storm jungle]

IT LITERALLY LOOKS LIKE A STATIONARY 50 CAL

CAN YO UBLAME ME

[dusk patrol]

Fake fan tbh

[forest orbit]

okay well i get that

but like still woman smh

[dusk patrol]

Obviously it has hover plates

[rocky gale]

You can also get these for like £12 on Ebay

[storm jungle]

This is some next levels of fucked up

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-violet-crawley-maggie-smith-downtown-abbey-a-new-era-speechless-gif-24935535

I mean can you imagine

Not knowing?

(I didn’t know for years)

(I still don’t care for it)

[rose thorn]

It uh, it uh hovers :3

[dusk patrol]

They did make the hammerfall bunker look cool in SM2 though.

[crystal forum]

@storm jungle https://youtube.com/shorts/uYAkaCDdQOI?si=EUNEMW8f9Ti9yIGo

[storm jungle]

Im gonna hover this grenade up your a-

[storm jungle]

Cant believe this.....

[rose thorn]

I forgot does the turret have flying

[dusk patrol]

Can’t blame them since animating them would be a bitch but I would have liked to have seen a Techmarine

[storm jungle]

What i dont get is like

why not make it some shit like this

actually its 40k what am i even saying

[shadow plover]

flying skeebooths

[rocky gale]

What in the Skibidi Toilet

[storm jungle]

also yes these were real

[dusk patrol]

Are those trash cans for skiing?

[rose thorn]

What the hell am I looking at

[storm jungle]

Its a mobile guard post

now pay up the gas bill

[rose thorn]

Exterminate, exterminate

I forgot what they were called :( the uh

Doctor who murder boxes

[rocky gale]

Dalek

[rose thorn]

Thank you

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/daleks-doctor-who-dalek-gif-16964229911520033802

[rose thorn]

This looks like a hallows out dalek

[storm jungle]

i still cant believe these fucking things could solo 40k

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-doctor-davros-capaldi-rollstuhl-gif-17508475

[storm jungle]

Dalek lore absolutely goes crazy

[dusk patrol]

Fortunately I wrote a toilet scrubber which can solo them

[storm jungle]

💀

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-seventh-doctor-7th-doctor-ace-doctor-who-ace-gif-9135671295527225490

[dusk patrol]

Doctor Who lore is….interesting. Sometimes I’ll watch parts and think it’s marvelous and then it immediately loses me the next episode.

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/dalek-cybermen-burn-roast-better-gif-17860435722367464060

[near wasp]

my audiobook crashed and now I've lost my place.....

[storm jungle]

Classic british TV

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ther-there-gif-27211439

[storm jungle]

still prob one of my fav sci-fi designs in anything

starts as literal junk design then turns into having actual purpose

I cannot fucking believe they made it so that the toilet plunger they got sucks peoples' brains

[dusk patrol]

I think my favorite thing with Doctor Who, and this is a lot of earlier sci fi, is you can see where they’ve had to take very simple and cheap early designs and try to make them scarier and threatening now

[storm jungle]

Yeah this.

Sometimes it legit works

[rocky gale]

Like you've got to remember this is a BBC production, the writers were probably getting paid like £2 a day with a budget of £50 per episode

[storm jungle]

Sometimes its just kinda funny but charming

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah lol

like again the prop department still did a good job, i couldnt prob manage any of this

[rocky gale]

One of the seasons had like a robot companion because they found a random robot prop in the storage room cupboard one day and were like "Hey we can use this"

[crystal forum]

they could have attached a servitor to this thing btw but brother dakka really wanted to shoot the turret

[storm jungle]

Its also important to remember TV audiences back then were legit as easily entertained as chimps

like they will see these guys and go

"OH MY FUCKING GOD WHAT IS THAT HOLY FUCK"

[crystal forum]

or maybe people cared more about the story

[storm jungle]

no

[crystal forum]

yes

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-chaplin-playing-gif-8323146

[storm jungle]

Chaplain my beloved

[merry granite]

Hello

I r new to darktide

[storm jungle]

oh jeez

[dusk patrol]

Source?

[crystal forum]

proof?

[dusk patrol]

Evidence?

[rocky gale]

The funny story about the robot is nobody knew where it came from and it had no instructions so one member of crew had to train with it for months to figure out how it worked before they started filming, he figured it out but didn't explain it to anyone else and then he died like a week before they started shooting.

So they'd written this complicated robot prop into the script for the whole season and no one knew how to work the damn thing

[storm jungle]

yeah thats me worldbuilding lol

[dusk patrol]

This just sounds like an elaborate excuse for someone to not have to claim they made it

[storm jungle]

Its the logic star wars worked with

"Okay so you are a bounty hunter with toilet wraps"

10 years later

"OKAY GUYS THIS CHARACTER NEEDS LORE"

fuck me, STOP

[rocky gale]

It was apparently a prop from an old show that got canceled during the pilot but there wasn't any record of it because BBC was pretty fast and loose back then

[dusk patrol]

Willrow Hood

And his ice cream machine

[storm jungle]

GOD

the story behind it is also just so fucking funny

[dusk patrol]

Which iirc was later made to be a memory core with alliance secrets and he died valiantly under torture not revealing them

Because of course it was

[storm jungle]

Yeah i also remember some people tracking down this guy's family/name to find out who he was

and his relatives actually appreciated the fans being this obsessed with finding who he was just as a background character lol

[dusk patrol]

A lot of them are dead now but you used to be able to find damn near every Star Wars extra with any notable screen time at conventions and get an autograph

[storm jungle]

Yeah its pretty wholesome i can get the vibe behind it

id love it to see if some people came ot me and went "Bro you carried that ice cream machine like a PRO"

they aint no Dexter Jetster but hey still

[dusk patrol]

Hey Dex is a major featured character with a lot of dialogue and key plot information

For some reason….

Also he’s in a 1950s diner and has a stache. In Star Wars.

[storm jungle]

Bro had connections

https://tenor.com/view/dex-dexter-jettster-they-are-cloners-star-wars-aotc-gif-24129821

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/dex-dexter-jettster-they-are-cloners-star-wars-aotc-gif-24129821

Get it

[viral halo]

I return

What did Frank miller mean by this chat

[dusk patrol]

His subtle touch

Truly

[rocky gale]

I got no clue what I'm looking at

[dusk patrol]

Probably for the best

[viral halo]

Plastic man killing a cop while shouting Rodney king (LA Race Riots)

[rocky gale]

Oh

[opaque coyote]

I love how Miller goes from

The Dark Knight Returns with honestly some banger artwork

To this

Then again I think the sequel of DKR was his literal first time drawing digitally

Not an excuse for the quality dropping so much

But it does explain it

[viral halo]

Yea and he was heavily abusing substances making it

Ppl living w him during said he was like totally schizo

[dusk patrol]

Whenever I read these guys talking about the “art” they make

[viral halo]

DKIII is good at least

[dusk patrol]

I wish we could force them to explain some of these pages lol

I do think he’s made some brilliant stuff but man

[opaque coyote]

An artist being schizo

Unsurprised

[rocky gale]

Zorro?

[viral halo]

This is still the greatest comic panel OAT

[dusk patrol]

It’d be weirder if Miller wasnt tbh

[opaque coyote]

The fucking cape

Honestly it would've been better if it was one solid color ISTG

I think he used the god damn default calligraphy tool

Nobody uses that

[dusk patrol]

I remember some animator did a rant about how annoying capes are to do and cursing the idiots who put capes on all these super heroes

It was amusing

[viral halo]

Making things appear flowing is nightmarish

[dusk patrol]

He ended it with “and that’s why Spider-Man is a dream job”

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah capes are annoying

Clothes creases are annoying already

So making a giant, flowing piece of cloth is fucking hard to draw

[dusk patrol]

Marvel in general doesn’t have a ton of capes which helps

Compared to DC

[opaque coyote]

Fucking Spiderman

I would've accepted like drawing Deadpool or Daredevil

But fucking Spiderman??

DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO DRAW ALL THOSE WEB PATTERNS

[viral halo]

Imagine being Todd McFarlane painting spawn all the time

Mf IS a cape

[opaque coyote]

Based as a result honestly

[dusk patrol]

McFarlane the maniac

[opaque coyote]

Spawn art goes hard most of the time

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/spawn-gif-27051116

He’s got a great design

Keith David voicing him is peak

[opaque coyote]

He's like the Punisher

Except he doesn't attract racists

I hope

[dusk patrol]

Well

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

That‘s optimistic

[viral halo]

I managed to pick up a decent copy of spawn 1 the other day for fifteen bucks

[dusk patrol]

His storyline is a little goofy but he’s fun still

[viral halo]

Honestly comic collecting is so much cheaper than Warhammer

[dusk patrol]

Eventually he like kills heaven and hell or something iirc

Maybe if you’re collecting spawn smh

[opaque coyote]

I mean isn't Spawn, before he turned into well.. Spawn, black?

[viral halo]

I managed to get all of dark knight returns, DK2, DK3 and all DKR one shots for 100 bucks

[opaque coyote]

It should drive away at least some

[viral halo]

Mix of first and second printings

[dusk patrol]

You think that helps?

[opaque coyote]

I hope so????

[queen laurel]

for me the reason i know keith is because of this guy

[opaque coyote]

[viral halo]

Eternal do you collect comics

[dusk patrol]

Yeah that’s a good one

Arbiter is the main one for me

[queen laurel]

Goliath was peak

[dusk patrol]

But he’s done a lot of great voice roles

The uh, Princess and the Frog villain

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-ready-princess-shadow-gif-20591790

[rocky gale]

Saints Row

[winter vessel]

the timeline of me learning about Keith David was from Arbiter to Sergeant Foley, to Princess and the Frog

[rocky gale]

Where he voiced Julius and then later himself

[queen laurel]

man this intro is still awesome
https://youtu.be/CjI0TdvVbqI?si=w-0uW6Axy9-n_R_0

[viral halo]

Keith David is a legend

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-and-the-frog-dr-facilier-shadow-man-disney-shake-hands-gif-17859528

[winter vessel]

I've known him also from Tales from the Hood 2 where he does the "welcome to Hell! Motherfucker!"

[dusk patrol]

And They Live of course

https://tenor.com/view/they-live1988-they-live-roddy-piper-keith-david-gif-26047430

[winter vessel]

oh I haven't seen that movie in a while

[rocky gale]

Love that Scene in Saints Row where Roddy Piper shows up to beat him up so that he remembers himself

"No one calls Roddy for help... He shows up where he's needed most"

[winter vessel]

snaps fingers oh yeah he was also in John Carpenter's The Thing in 1982

[dusk patrol]

That was about 2 years before he died iirc.

His It’s Always Sunny Appearance is great too

[hallow plover]

Holy fuck gargoyles

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/rowdy-roddy-piper-always-sunny-crazy-squirrel-gif-25118505

[hallow plover]

I loved that show

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/x3SJBIY-kWs?si=TNVfjYdTAbfeLh2-

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/arbiter-were-it-so-easy-halo-difficult-gif-16171194

[winter vessel]

my sister and I always played the story together when we were kids. Good thing too, because neither of us could get through "Cortana" without crying in fear

when playing at night

[dusk patrol]

Doing that shit on legendary has the same effect

Holy fuck what cancer

It’s sooooo long too

[winter vessel]

that in itself has the same pain level as a destiny raid, even above i'd dare say

[opaque coyote]

Nah it doesn't make you cry in fear

It just makes you want to shoot yourself

[arctic talon]

It’s like at the level of pain Root of nightmares is day 1

[dusk patrol]

I think I did LASO for reach

[opaque coyote]

Still better than Halo 2 on Legendary tho

[dusk patrol]

Sword Base was awful

[arctic talon]

LASO is horrid

Lol

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s

Ugh

[arctic talon]

Halo 2 on legendary is genuinely

[dusk patrol]

It’s not fun at all

[arctic talon]

Not designed for how the game works

[winter vessel]

and then Halo 3 ODST makes you learn about a new taste for music

[opaque coyote]

I beat Reach on Legendary

The Ship section killed me more than the actual first levels

[dusk patrol]

That stuff was hard too

I think the final mission before the last stand was probably the worst though

[arctic talon]

Oh fun fact

The Sabre stuff

[dusk patrol]

That fucking group of zealots and field marshal

[arctic talon]

Is 2x harder on 60 fps

You take twice as much damage

lol

[winter vessel]

i had to use the barrel of the Mini mac to shield me from phantom shots

[dusk patrol]

It’s so baffling to me how good the Sabre section is

And they did nothing else with that

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's probably why

Apparently the UNSC decided to make their fighters out of fucking duct tape and scrap.

I almost turned it down a difficulty level genuinely

[dusk patrol]

Well there’s a reason it was a prototype

[winter vessel]

to me the Sabre actually looks like a proper fighting starcraft then the standard Longsword, thats a big boy

[opaque coyote]

Honestly it was also my first time playing Halo reach also

And beating the game on Legendary made the ending far more potent

It was a uphill fight from the beginning

But it quickly became hopeless

[winter vessel]

I never got mad whenever i barrel rolled and hit the nearby debris around the Anchor 9 station, I kept laughing.

[opaque coyote]

Visor cracked as I tried my best to live as much as I cn

Until eventually I had to take off the helmet

Genuinely got emotional lmao

Halo Reach is my favorite game of the Halo series purely because it captured hopelessness so well

Both in the story and gameplay

[winter vessel]

the most militaristic to me.

[dusk patrol]

It’s just super well done

[opaque coyote]

Sabre part still makes me want to die tho

[dusk patrol]

The design, the voice acting, the team, the tragedy

[opaque coyote]

Kat's death genuinely got me the most

[dusk patrol]

I love the part where Kat is talking about how she “definitely didn’t” hack into the ONI database and find out that Six was trained in the secret Sabre program

[opaque coyote]

Mainly because just before that, she was actually subtly shaking

While saying

"First glassing? Me too."

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they do each of them very different

Jorge is off screen and a tragic sacrifice which means nothing basically

[winter vessel]

i thought it was lame as a kid, but my uncle who'd done time in the service explained it to me when he was watching me play. "one moment you're buddy's with you, the next they're gone".

[dusk patrol]

Kat dies because random bad luck basically

Emile is a badass last stand, Carter is passing you the torch for the mission. Six is all alone, lone wolfing.

[winter vessel]

i remember watching rogue one in theaters and before even Scarif blows up I said "hold the fuck, this is Halo Reach"

[dusk patrol]

I’ll always respect them for having everyone die

It was really close to not happening apparently

Same with the Vader scene

[winter vessel]

yeah. But going back, I take this to my grave. Halo Reach was the last time my experience will ever Peak. From story, to multiplayer, forge creations, and even the clan community

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-lord-vader-star-wars-rogue-one-gif-19584608

Whoever played that lead rebel

Did not get paid enough

[spring cairn]

best scene in sw

[dusk patrol]

They all do a good job but man he sells that shit

[spring cairn]

all of it

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

Unironically

My favorite SW scene

[spring cairn]

that bar isn't very high but this is very good

[opaque coyote]

Dude sounded scared, angry, and desperate all at once

[winter vessel]

the best in terms of putting the "wars" in star wars from space to ground combat, Rogue One did it best

[dusk patrol]

It also makes beginning of a New Hope hilarious

[opaque coyote]

Rogue One was probably the best movie out of Disney Star Wars

[dusk patrol]

It’s a bit rough at the start but that last battle scene is phenomenal

It also laid the foundation for Andor so

Yeah I’m a big fan

[winter vessel]

Watching that little skirmish on Jedha between the Partisans and the Imperials reminded me of the early urban warfare during the War On Terror

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think I posted this earlier

It's also good because it explains why Vader was so pissed

Leia: "idk what you're talking about bro. There are no death star plans"

Vader: "BITCH I JUST HAD THE PLANS STOLEN BT YOUR MEN. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN NO PLANS"

Leia: "idk bro maybe you should check the database maybe you lost them"

[winter vessel]

It also lead to my new favorite type of Storm Trooper which was the Shore Troopers

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think the worst part about most of the Disney Star Wars movies is because they're uncreative

[dusk patrol]

“We’re on a diplomatic mission.”

“Bitch we both just left a massive fucking space battle and I just got done killing everyone on your ship.”

[opaque coyote]

Like they just rehashed the same shit

But worse

[spring cairn]

they made something p mid worse

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s very disappointing

[spring cairn]

it's on par

[opaque coyote]

The prequels, despite how fucking awful it is. Honestly if it was purely by acting, the Disney movies win out in that area.

But the Prequels tried something new.

[dusk patrol]

It’s baffling to me that they had no plan

[opaque coyote]

It tried to make a new story in the universe

[dusk patrol]

Yeah as bad as George is at a lot of stuff

[opaque coyote]

Expand on it's past and even future

[dusk patrol]

He had a lot of cool ideas

[spring cairn]

the prequel's whole concept could've been salvaged