40k-lore-chat

[paper haven]

There's an audio log in SM2 where some cadians do almost exactly that before a ripper swarm gets them.

[arctic talon]

we literally just got more Tau auxilleries minis

💀

the entire recent wave for Tau was auxilleries

[languid meadow]

yeah vespids and kroot

Im talking about the underrepresented ones

[arctic talon]

they'll get around to it someday

I'd assume

Tau still have things that need updating

so like

I'd rather GW finish updating what needs to be updated first

[languid meadow]

I'm not saying they shouldn't finish updating the other models, but like when GW hypes up the fact that they're a multi race empire while neglecting 90% of the species it's a bit wack (but hey what can you do)

battlesuits sell (they're cool asf)

[opaque coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU48ouWNr8E

[languid meadow]

rotund

[dusk patrol]

Not having models for every single race isn’t really neglecting

[languid meadow]

Not asking for a model of every race

[dusk patrol]

A lot of those auxiliaries don’t even have combat roles

[languid meadow]

just a bit more variety for the ones that do

[dusk patrol]

We literally just got a huge line for Kroot and new Vespid models, which are the primary Tau auxiliaries. I can’t even recall much if the other auxiliaries are represented much as soldiers.

They’re getting more support than some factions get

[forest orbit]

"More support"

yeah after like 20 years lol

took em long enough i guess

[languid meadow]

the rot consumes

[forest orbit]

may these wounds putrify

[dusk patrol]

Tau have barely been out 20 years

[forest orbit]

my bad, 10 years

lol

[storm jungle]

I love the correction as if it even matters tbh

[languid meadow]

the tau came out in 2001 iirc

[opaque coyote]

I do think that not every auxillary needs to be modeled

But some of them sound awesome for combat roles. Like I said, the Vorgh

[arctic talon]

Tau came out in 2002 🤓

[storm jungle]

so yeah, basically 20+ years

[arctic talon]

To be fair kroot had a somewhat fleshed out range from forgeworld

[dusk patrol]

Like they’re getting support, it’s a little silly to complain about auxiliary support when they’re getting it now and have gotten it in the past

[arctic talon]

And then it got taken out back when forgeworld did their purge in 6e

Lol

[forest orbit]

Yeah but it takes forever

[arctic talon]

And then it got finished off with the 8e purge

[forest orbit]

i hate this stupid "counterpoint" so much lol

its the same as

"OH MARINES SELL SO OTHER FACTIONS GET SUPPORT FOR IT"

Like yes

we know dingus

it doesnt make it any less annoying

AND I say this as a black templar fanboy

[dusk patrol]

I mean it needs to be said cause it’s why those factions exist

[forest orbit]

It really doesnt

[dusk patrol]

They wouldn’t be doing these updates without them being bankrolled by the guaranteed money

[forest orbit]

And the sky is blue.

Again, we are aware.

[dusk patrol]

Ok then stop complaining? Marines aren’t getting models in place of other factions

[storm jungle]

Average space marine fan moment

[forest orbit]

Pretty much

guy cant just see the issue

dont know why im even trying lol

[dusk patrol]

They’re getting models so GW has the money to pay for it, if you know then why are you complaining?

It doesn’t affect you

[forest orbit]

I mean so what if it isnt

it affects my friends who play these armies

and its not exactly fun to see

[dusk patrol]

We’ve had more updates to all factions in these past years than ever basically

Shit takes time

Not everyone gets updates all the time

[forest orbit]

And again

it took forever

[arctic talon]

GW literally had almost no interest in updating other factions in the past tbh

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

Ok so keep bitching because they finally did it lol?

[arctic talon]

Are we ignoring GW now is basically a different company then it was pre 8e

Like

[dusk patrol]

What is this logic

[forest orbit]

It doesnt exactly negate the fact that how much this went on before they got an update lol

[opaque coyote]

Eldar being stuck in purgatory for like years moment

[dusk patrol]

They did it, but it took so long!

[low gazelle]

darwiniisom

[arctic talon]

Idk

[forest orbit]

I mean its not my fault you cant see the issue

[dusk patrol]

Ok maybe be happy they’re doing it?

[arctic talon]

I think GW actually updating shit now is good

And I’m not going to be mad about it

[dusk patrol]

What is the issue, they’re finally updating all factions?

[storm jungle]

Just dont argue with the guy

all his points are "who cares"

[forest orbit]

ah well

[arctic talon]

Post 3e and pre 8e GW might as well be a different company

[dusk patrol]

Apparently we’re now upset GW is updating all factions and trying to cater to the wider fanbase because it “took too long”

Like jfc

[dusk patrol]

They’re not without faults but it’s hilarious how much better it is now

[languid meadow]

All I did was suggest they should lean more into the whole multi racial aspect, out of like the 26 species 16 of the them have combat roles ( not all of them being ground forces of course but a lot are) like im not asking for a whole ass line like the kroot get

just a couple of models

like thraxians or vorgh

[storm jungle]

You got your minis, be content

[languid meadow]

so true

[storm jungle]

So needy omg

[languid meadow]

got to make room for more space marine models

[dusk patrol]

And it’s very possible they might do that in the future, but they just did a big update for auxiliaries so it might be a minute.

After LoV nothing is really impossible anymore

[arctic talon]

Vorgh are honestly the most likely

Tbh

For a knight sized mini

If GW doesn’t just make more suits lol

[languid meadow]

500 battlesuits

[arctic talon]

Lol

I like suits

So I’m not gona complain either way

[languid meadow]

I do as well

they're cool asf

[dusk patrol]

A human auxiliary sprue for guard would be nice

[arctic talon]

New killteam

5000 guard killteams

[dusk patrol]

Tau Guard vs Imperial Guard

[languid meadow]

I'm just happy that both scions and vespids both got new models

[dusk patrol]

Complete the prophecy

Lots of cool killteams recently

Even if there’s a lot of guard at least they’re cool

[storm jungle]

I love it when 4chan leaks sometimes come together

https://tenor.com/view/a-team-i-love-it-when-a-plan-comes-together-a-team-i-love-it-when-a-plan-comes-together-hannibal-smith-liam-neeson-a-team-gif-1843902924518274792

I think the 9th edition leak that predicted every single release hasnt been topped but this was neat.

[arctic talon]

Only reason it didn’t get believed was because of SQUATS being listed

[dusk patrol]

I hate how Valrak is mostly right these days

[arctic talon]

And we did get votann

[arctic talon]

I can’t make fun of his absurd leaks anymore

It’s jover

[dusk patrol]

It’s awful

(He’s not that bad but still)

[storm jungle]

Leandros

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

To be fair it would be better if like he presented them with any taste

instead of

[dusk patrol]

The community has made me a Leandros stan

[storm jungle]

"OMAHGAWD GUYS"

[arctic talon]

To be honest

[dusk patrol]

I can’t blame him for cringey YouTuber standard stuff

[arctic talon]

I’m never gona make fun of his actual like

Attitude lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

[arctic talon]

I’d rather take him then uh

[storm jungle]

hes basically a soyjak but in a good way, he doesnt harm anyone

[dusk patrol]

Largely he just had all these dumb predictions

And now he’s mostly been right

[storm jungle]

Yeah this, hes just sometimes annoying and thats kind of it

[dusk patrol]

Hopefully his source gets found and destroyed

So I can go back to disliking him for actually good reasons

[arctic talon]

I do wonder if it’s intentional from GW now

Better like

A controlled source

[dusk patrol]

I imagine it is to some extent

[arctic talon]

Then the angron leak

Lul

[dusk patrol]

They’ve already done “leaks”

[storm jungle]

Yeah it 100% is

[arctic talon]

I think the angron leak is the only one I’ve ever seen GW mad about

[storm jungle]

They released it like a day after it was so good lol

but you only know a leak is legit if like the pic is EXTREMELY bad

[dusk patrol]

Dante definitely wasn’t planned either I don’t think

[arctic talon]

Dante wasn’t planned

But it was funny as shit

Watching the GW social media team reply to the dudes Dante mini

With the eavy metal one

[dusk patrol]

Him with Sanguinary guard might have lessened the blow slightly lol

It will never not be funny to me how someone at GW seems to hate those wings on the SG

[arctic talon]

If swooping hawks don’t have wings

I’m killing myself

[storm jungle]

Same

[dusk patrol]

To the point where they made a whole new unit for Heresy because they didn’t wanna do the wings

[storm jungle]

It is pretty insulting tbh

[arctic talon]

Someone at my lgs

[storm jungle]

the wings is like the entire thing of that faction

[arctic talon]

Has like

[dusk patrol]

The worst part is the little wing flaps

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

It feels like it’s taunting me

[arctic talon]

Photobashed wingless swooping hawks

It’s horrifying

They look even more naked then sang guard

[dusk patrol]

At least we’re getting warp spiders and their phoenix lord apparently

Soon

™️

[arctic talon]

Psychic awakening plot thread from 7 years ago finally followed up on

!!!!!

[dusk patrol]

There is no Ynnari in Ba Sing Se

I'll probably pick up warp spiders if theres a killteam

[arctic talon]

Ngl I’m kind of hoping GW just

Adds more aspect warriors to blades of khaine

[dusk patrol]

And/or their phoenix lord.

[arctic talon]

Like shove in more of them

They only get 3 flavors rn

[dusk patrol]

Seems they're trying to expand on them so thats nice.

Dude imagine how shit their posture is.

[arctic talon]

All warpspider art has them with that hunched pose

[dusk patrol]

They can't do anything else apparently.

[storm jungle]

Pose ref moment

its kinda amazing how almost no art they got though so i guess thats why 💀

[arctic talon]

They aren’t hunched over on their mini

They’re like

In that weird ass sideways pose

[storm jungle]

yeah thats the old mini pose for most factions

legs spread

gun high

looking like they are gonna take a DUMP

[arctic talon]

Old ork minis looking like they’re throwing it back

[opaque coyote]

fart noise.mp4

[dusk patrol]

They'll probably be in their leaping pose for the mini

Ten bucks one is coming out of a portal effect as an option.

[opaque coyote]

"OI YA GITZ. THROW IT BACK FOR GORK N MORK BEFORE I KRUMP YA ALL!"

[arctic talon]

I think maybe for the Phoenix lord or exarch

[storm jungle]

Artel has one like that

wouldnt surprise me lol

[dusk patrol]

Uh those are spectral spinners.

Completely different

[storm jungle]

[shell mason]

what happens when a normal human sits on the golden throne?

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/dust-ashes-thanos-gone-avengers-endgame-gif-14825403

[arctic talon]

Death

[shell mason]

haha say less

[arctic talon]

That shit is barely built for powerful psykers

Much less some normal ass flesh bag

Shit was prolly meant for a frog

[opaque coyote]

You would instantly die

[dusk patrol]

Malcador lasted hours

And he had psykers plugged in helping

[opaque coyote]

Not just die, your soul would probably be rent asunder

Not even ashes would remain

[shell mason]

so we talking like total dusting or just obi wan disappearing while clothes remain?

[opaque coyote]

One moment you're there

[dusk patrol]

He turned to dust

[opaque coyote]

Another moment. Gone

[arctic talon]

Like this

Tbh

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-death-darth-vader-gif-14092330

[dusk patrol]

He’s straight up not having a good time

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's what happened to Malcador and he was probably the 2nd most powerful Psyker in the Imperium

[shell mason]

more powerful than old magni?

[opaque coyote]

1st being the Emperor himself

Who has to be constantly fed 10,000 Psykers per day to still hold things together

And if they don't. Then the Emperor would also die

Oh yeah and even with the added soul diet

He's still slowly getting closer to death AND the throne is breaking down

[storm jungle]

hes the End and the Dead

or Death, whoops

[shell mason]

ok

[shut ravine]

Any 40k lore nerds know the quote where a necron said "I'm only trying to save my people" and the Space marine said "So Am I."

I cant seem to remember where it came from.

[shell mason]

brother

[languid meadow]

I feel like an eldar just exploded reading that sentence

[shut ravine]

I'm trying to find what book/lore piece that quote came from. Ik it exists.

[shell mason]

its a trazyn book

[shut ravine]

You sure?

[opaque coyote]

Eldar when they're just trying to live their life:

(The fucking Tyranids are invading their craftworld)

[shell mason]

"Yeah well....My shoulders hurt..." - Ben Grim

[crystal forum]

so space marines duck

[shell mason]

huh?

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-revenge-tasty-johnnyduck-gif-18410951520284892563

[languid meadow]

holy shit

[opaque coyote]

Stealing that

Also do Khornate SMs get mutations?

I know the answer is "yes"

But like

What kind?

Cause they seem fairly """clean""" compared to the rest of the SMs

Like the Slaaneshi ones are fucked, the Nurgle ones are obviously fucked up as well, the Tzeentchian ones also get horrifying mutations

And Chaos Undivided has plenty

But Khorne doesn't seem to give out much if any obvious mutations from what I know?

[storm jungle]

Uhh the world eater box art is prob the best you are gonna get

[shell mason]

WTF witchfinder

[rocky gale]

Wow

Axehead is amazing

[storm jungle]

its from 40k

its a very neat setting

[opaque coyote]

That looks sick.

Wish we saw more of stuff like that

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

I can generally imagine Khornate SMs becoming more animalistic

[shell mason]

It's very unsettling

[opaque coyote]

Or more metal

Not in like

[shell mason]

and inpractical

[opaque coyote]

The obliterator virus way

[shell mason]

I mean

[storm jungle]

well yeah its chaos

[opaque coyote]

But I can imagine them like

Growing swords on their arms

Not sword arms or spikes

Literal swords growing on their atms

[shell mason]

it reminds me of trench crusade

[storm jungle]

AoS has a khornate warband who are literally slowly turning into Flesh-hounds

they are like furries but more violent lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I thought of kinda making them look more reptilian?

So Scalies instead of Furries

Jokes aside, I think it would make sense.

Like imagine a crocodile looking World Eater

[opaque coyote]

Also fun fact. Snakes literally don't have emotions

They do not feel empathy

[opaque coyote]

Are those fucking side jaws

I am saving that

That looks cool

[shell mason]

Yes

Alot of the Demon/heretic designs are really fucking cool

[shell mason]

also so their just like my first ex

[opaque coyote]

ba dum tss

[shell mason]

I'll be here all week

[dreamy totem]

Is there much lore about the war for atoma?

[opaque coyote]

I also thought of like Khornate SMs having powers?

Like idk shit like

Slamming down using their legs and having spikes grow in a line

That type of thing

But then I realized that Khorne usually hates magic and shit

And I'm wondering whether having powers like that technically counts as magic??

[rocky gale]

They do have magic and like priests etc

[shell mason]

Not really it's a random Prime World

[opaque coyote]

Yeah which makes things infinitely weirder like

What would Khorne like and what would he not like

[shell mason]

Closest you get to magic, is enhanced strength and muscle mass

[opaque coyote]

Like if I used say Telekinesis to shoot a sword towards somebody's head, would that make the "blood", worth less?

[shell mason]

......

[opaque coyote]

Yeah in general I thought of like

Mutations to compensate

Like idk, the CSM suddenly grows like a tentacle arm to stab somebody through the chest and goes back to a normal hand

Basically Alex Mercer Prototype level shit

[shell mason]

This is Khorne magic

[opaque coyote]

[languid meadow]

twitch tags were a mistake

[shell mason]

what

[opaque coyote]

Also I can easily imagine Tzeentch and Khorne getting into an argument lmao

[shell mason]

word?

[opaque coyote]

"YOU USE BLOOD RITUALS. THAT IS MAGIC. YOU'RE A FUCKING HYPOCRITE"

"NO, NO IT FUCKING ISN'T YOU NERD. IT HAS BLOOD THEREFORE IT ISN'T."

[shell mason]

It's the morty debate all over again

[opaque coyote]

Basically

[shell mason]

But

[opaque coyote]

Also y'know how Hades has you talk to like the Greek gods when you get a boon/blessing

I thought like

If there is ever a Chaos Rogue like

They should have that but for the 4

[shell mason]

would be kinda cool for Hemomancy

[opaque coyote]

Also duo blessings and the such would be cool

Like I can easily imagine like

[shell mason]

OOH I fw that

[opaque coyote]

Blood Magic would be under both Tzeentch's and Khorne's domain

[opaque coyote]

Also the interactions would be funny as fuck

Especially things like duo blessings

[shell mason]

I could see it being only possible for melee blood weapons

Gets stabbed through the hand use the blood from the wound to be a hidden blade

[opaque coyote]

"I TRIED TO BLESS A WARRIOR. BUT YOU STOLE IT AWAY FROM ME YOU WHORE."

"Darling, they were focused on the perfection and technique of it. Not the blood."

"BUT THEY SPILLED BLOOD. THEY LOVED SPILLING BLOOD. THEREFORE HE SHOULD'VE BEEN MINE! MIINNE."

"Cry harder."

[shell mason]

But also when you think about it it can't go with the god the chaos god hates. Like khorne and Slanni

[shell mason]

.....I will make this a comic

[opaque coyote]

I was thinking that combo blessings from gods that hate each other would be like

Powerful but also have some type of heavy debuff as a result

[shell mason]

I was thinking that too

But 4 feels wrong

Cause you also have Malice and The Machine chaos god

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I also thought of like

The Emperor and Malice being additional ones

Or maybe even

[shell mason]

Malice, Vashtorr

[opaque coyote]

The Dark King. Unformed but it's birth goes ever closer

[shell mason]

OH SHIT THATS COOL

[opaque coyote]

Like it technically doesn't exist

But similar to Slaanesh before the Eldar fell. It also does

[shell mason]

Yeah yeah

[opaque coyote]

I should make like a concept drawing or something of this

Of course, it will be named

"The Great Game"

There's no way it can't be

[shell mason]

True

But you can only imagine the protag

[tough haven]

https://youtu.be/eExoHe4XxvA?si=7sS9VqXV8MsFl7YS

guys, is this real?

[shell mason]

Yes

[tough haven]

Oh we're still concepting this game?

hell yeah

[tough haven]

Please do

[shell mason]

Like they have to be recently new to chaos

BUT

Not to far gone from the Emperors light

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I thought of like

Different starter ""classes"".

Cultist, CSM, etc.

[tough haven]

how so

[opaque coyote]

I thought of like

The only way to get the "Emperor" ending is to do like a bless less run

And never recruit anyone

[shell mason]

Lore vs table top

[opaque coyote]

Heard of situations where someone rolled for like 30 minutes while the opponent is just waiting lmao

[shell mason]

Right I can see that like a 5 run in Dead cells

[opaque coyote]

"Hold on I got another roll"

[shell mason]

Orks go fucking dummy

[tough haven]

wasnt there a ork rule that let orks just get additional attack rolls anytime they got a six or something?

I have situations like that but its for movement not shooting

cause people gotta perfectly optimally move to screen out every possible move their opponent might make Ig

[shell mason]

yk

we still don't know what khorne looks like

[opaque coyote]

Yes for every shot

And Orks armies typically focus more on numbers

So

Yesh

[tough haven]

Yeah I can see why that was changed but also cmon it's really on brand for orks

[tough haven]

they arent supposed to have a consistent form

[opaque coyote]

Also the Ork player might be missing every other shot

Like a true Ork

[shell mason]

But khornes the only one most consistent seeing as we never saw his face

[opaque coyote]

Of course a lot of the fans of factions usually embody it sometimes

[tough haven]

I dont see why they couldnt rework it and make it a detatchment rule

[shell mason]

I mean would you?

[tough haven]

Not when it takes 1.5 hours per movement phase

cause they gotta have it down to a tenth of an inch

[tough haven]

and its also a casual game

[shell mason]

oof

Space marines can be fucking funny at times

[crystal forum]

yeah they coolhd

i love space marines

[shell mason]

Meh I like my DG boys

[crystal forum]

GW hit squad inbound

[languid meadow]

only a matter of times before GW summons the pinkertons

[shell mason]

why?

[crystal forum]

it's so over

[rose thorn]

Wrong company

[languid meadow]

I know

it's a joke about the GW hit squad

[crystal forum]

we should gift maggie a whole army of fantasy orcs

that'll teach her a lesson

[rose thorn]

If you want me to suffer get me Slaanesh army, I’d die after I built Ahh

If you get me old world it will just sit in a pile for bits

[crystal forum]

noted

you will suffer

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/air-swim-cat-gif-25752697

[lyric radish]

okay random question

How long did the Age of Strife last?

Video I watched today said the Eldar were causing it for "millions of years" but that humanity only felt it for like 5000-10000 years

Was confused bc I thought the Age of Strife was only what humanity called the few thousand years before the Eldar accidentally gamer'd their way into creating Slaanesh

[languid meadow]

do we have a time frame for it? I keep hearing it went on for thousands

I think a definitive number is 5000?

[opaque coyote]

M25 to M30 yeah

[opaque coyote]

No, the guy is on warp dust

[lyric radish]

rip, I thought so

[opaque coyote]

Ironically enough, the birth of Slaanesh managed to actually make it so that Humanity can rise again

[lyric radish]

I'm an Eldar (yeah yeah xeno scum) player on the tabletop but recently getting back into the lore (misplaced my Codex while moving lol) so these things slip my mind

[opaque coyote]

The fall of a race heralded another rise and fall

[lyric radish]

Yeah, ending all of that ||murderfucking|| accidentally fixed the instability in the warp no? From Slaanesh's birth scream or something to that effect?

Eldar had it coming frfr

[opaque coyote]

Basically, imagine a series of thunderstorms happening in the ocean

making it dangerous to even go in

Slaanesh being born made all the thunderstorms coalsce in one place

If you go in that one place, you'd basically suffer, but besides that, the rest of the ocean is ""fine""

[lyric radish]

Bermuda Triangle type shit lol

[opaque coyote]

This place is called the Eye of Terror

also

silver knight moment

[paper haven]

This meme is great.
I hate it.

[raven stone]

I think you meant Grey Knight?

[paper haven]

Well, not anymore.

[raven stone]

…so apparently it is a new lore thing

Damnit I have so much to catch up on

[echo vault]

Does a blood angels successor being really into librarians and librarian dreadnoughts fit as a chapter? I just love librarian dreadnoughts and all the psyker fun the blood angels can get up to along with jetpacks and bikes, idk i'm thinking something metal grey and purple like they were the chapter most working with the white scars and thousand sons (pre heresy) librarian project so they're semi neurotic hunters of librarian and psychic knowledge and equipment to maintain their mass librarius of psychic pieces (staffs, psychically tuned devices, weirder more dangerous shit maybe, the like. like if the blood ravens didn't have kyras ruining the psyker side of things by going traitor)

[green loom]

Blood angels are really into psykers as a base thing

So ye

[echo vault]

swag, i knew that i just wanna turn it up even more and rly poke at what weird psyker stuff they both would want to preserve/acquire, their relics and such, mixing that with additional stuff like them probably knowing or sensing when brothers will fall to the black rage before other chapters do, viewing it as a sacrifice to be remembered for something like that.

there will be legends of psychic barriers called down by the chief librarian and a pair of librarian dreadnoughts that smote all in their way and shielded all from harm! i can't think of a good name tho

[opaque coyote]

I mean the tale is about a Silver Knight traveling through Slaanesh's palace to murder Slaanesh. Somehow.

Only to give up when he meets Slaanesh themselves.

It's implied to be a Grey Knight

With a popular theory being that it's Kaldor Draigo

[raven stone]

Well ssshheeeiiiiittt.

lol

[green loom]

So based

[paper haven]

Sevatar is my favorite Night Lord.

[dawn zephyr]

If you painted an Orks brain red would it make them smarter?

[queen laurel]

uh no that's just a meme

[dawn zephyr]

well if they believe it would do that, wouldn't it?

[queen laurel]

no the WWWAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHH has set limits

the only belief that really applies anything to an ork is blue

being luck

[dawn zephyr]

are weird boyz purple or am i misremembering?

[queen laurel]

what do you mean purple

[dawn zephyr]

ah no thats the stealthy orks, only nobody's ever seen one, right?

[queen laurel]

that's a myth

ork powers only work on orks so if that belief get applied only other orks won't see them

[dawn zephyr]

I thought Space Marines could take advantage of Ork power, like they can re-attach limbs as long as the orks believe it works, but they stop working if they stop fighting orks?

[queen laurel]

that's false

ork powers only work on orks

[storm jungle]

Brainrot.

[queen laurel]

it really is

[queen laurel]

Fella ain't wrong

[storm jungle]

Based posting.

[pseudo fox]

guys i got a question what exactly are these i saw it in a random cinamatic

[green loom]

That's from the Astartes short animation thing

[storm jungle]

Its basically also an unknown alien world

its not explained and left up to the viewer

[green loom]

Ye it's based on the works of some polish artist

[sour hornet]

Dukane: "These rejects make a poor army."

Overseer Marsett: "They may yet surprise you, ma'am."

Dukane: "I do not care for surprises, I strive ever for certainty."

Overseer Marsett: "Of course, ma'am."

[hallow plover]

Based Dukane

[rocky gale]

She's the best

[hallow plover]

Also, Kayex called me a "pre-servitor"

[queen laurel]

considering our funny criminal record and what happened to that zealot that Rannick shot

he's not really wrong

[hallow plover]

I know. I just really liked the flavor of that line

[queen laurel]

he's a charming little fellow yes

[hallow plover]

Gotta enjoy the reject life

[shell mason]

you can hang me for this idc

[rose thorn]

NOOOOOO

[queen laurel]

what happened to you?

[rose thorn]

NahhsjwhsUhahdha

Thsi image

I was stalkn

Stalking

And then I get flash banged by family hammer 40 guy

[queen laurel]

i suppose that makes sense

[shell mason]

.....Cry harder

[tough haven]

Anyone got any music in whatever genre the mechanicus sountrack is? I need more for a playlist

[rose thorn]

Check trh channel Music of 40k

[tough haven]

I did, most is from the game, or just doesn’t fit well

Needs more chanting/industrial noises

It just feels like generic electronic music

[storm jungle]

Its too niche to really be made by anyone else

[rose thorn]

How about Domain of Ambience?

https://youtube.com/@domainsofambience5612?si=gM7LHFEnR75K89Ra

(I’m not a shill)

[crystal forum]

destroy

check out those thighs

daaaamn girl

[tough haven]

Lemme check it out

[storm jungle]

Imperial Gyatt

[tough haven]

I just am going feral waiting for mechanicus 2

[storm jungle]

ikr, finally a good necron game

[rose thorn]

My favorite Lexcorp suit

[crystal forum]

of course it is

[storm jungle]

IM GLAD IM NOT ALONE IN THAT

Its literally the exact fucking shade of green

its just missing the purple bits lol

[tough haven]

Like SM2 and mechanicus was announced at the same time

[dusk patrol]

The baldness really ties it together

[tough haven]

Why can’t admech 2 be out already

As an admech and necron player I need it injected into my veins

[dusk patrol]

Mechanicus 1 or 2?

[tough haven]

2

[dusk patrol]

Ok lol, I was gonna say

Cause Mechanicus 1 came out like 3 years before SM2 was announced

[tough haven]

I can’t tell you how often I’ve listened to the 4 seconds of music at the end of the trailer because even that is so good

I love how children of the omnissiah was made with like 21 engine sounds played in a church, like that’s dedication

The only stuff from music of 40k that I've liked was their necron stuff which I used to make a playlist to listen to while playing them on tabletop

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNObDr_wLDWBYG059wPlBVkViQovLx2Bk

with a few silly inclusions because I felt like it

[shell mason]

why are you becoming magos

[green loom]

Been reading up on the blackwall AI stuff in Cyberpunk

very freaky

[storm jungle]

Yeah its pretty creepy too

especially when you read up some stuff from it ingame thats not on the wiki

[plush mason]

isnt that the super firewall they made to keep the rogue AIs out?

or in depending where it is i guess

[shell mason]

Not really

wait shit

Yes actually I read the wrong

[plush mason]

tbf calling it a firewall is a massive understatement

the damn thing can just out right delete cyberware function

[shell mason]

been too busy leveling my bolt Pistol, heavy flamer, and heavy eviscerator

[green loom]

Shit do tell

The Peralez quest is pretty creepy

[crystal forum]

you dont need to be a tech priest to want to be crushed between two powerful cybernetic limbs

[shell mason]

Just seems the type of thing he'd be into

[crystal forum]

oh 100%

but me too

[tough haven]

I mean, I kinda like being un-crushed

like I get its fun

but like it also kinda probably kills you

[crystal forum]

worth it

[tough haven]

how?

[dusk patrol]

We need a new better plague

[tough haven]

I was gonna ask questions and try to understand/explore this but then I realized this is the 40k lore chat and is not for such things

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKthaO7S0m0

[shell mason]

wheres the leak maam

[rocky gale]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/sL9FSIEc/sunday-preview-hark-the-sons-of-sanguinius/

Nothing exciting, just the blood angels

[shell mason]

comics done

[crystal forum]

@storm jungle you need this to throw at your enemies

[storm jungle]

Oh my god

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1281431334048239656/Untitled_Project_V13.gif

now just gotta buy a thousand more to make this gif IRL

[paper haven]

It should not be this cute

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

Aaaaaa

3 more days until I can play

[shell mason]

.........actually die

I would rather let my characters falls to chaos and slaughter the entire morningstar before reading any more of the CURSE IMAGE

[bold rampart]

its not that bad

[green loom]

Skibidi toilet
Toilet skibidi

[shell mason]

it is

[gaunt sable]

As he gazed, the great face grew to an awful size, grew larger than the colossal mask of Memnon, which had made him scream as a child. It grew larger and larger, filling the whole sky; then everything went black. Only in the blackness before it entirely destroyed his brain he seemed to hear a distant voice saying a commonplace text that he had heard somewhere, "Can ye drink of the cup that I drink of?"

[shell mason]

Wire are you good, man?

[gaunt sable]

I ate too much okra.

[shell mason]

why?

[gaunt sable]

Because it tastes good. :v
Duh.

[green loom]

What's okra

[shell mason]

food

my gma used to make it

its good but im not a die hard fan of it

[gaunt sable]

https://tenor.com/view/sautee-sauteing-toss-mixing-veggies-gif-13233023

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okra

It's good for ya and tastes pretty great. Especially if you cook it right.

[green loom]

I see

[gaunt sable]

Or fry it. :v
But that's less healthy. ;v

[opaque coyote]

H u h

[shell mason]

Bruh stay in loop

[opaque coyote]

I wanna see

[shell mason]

huh 1 sec

[opaque coyote]

[shell mason]

need to pen the words

[crystal forum]

@gaunt sable you still havent linked artist 😤

[gaunt sable]

Which artist?

[crystal forum]

your pfp

artist

[radiant lance]

So which plasma gun is closer to the rest of the lore:
Darktide or space marine?

[green loom]

Darktide seems beefier

[dusk patrol]

It depends on builds and difficulty

They both look and feel good though, but they’re also both in video games so the higher up you get the less “real” they feel cause

I love the sound of the heavy plasma though

[storm jungle]

Darktide deffo.

pretty much every single gun in space marine feels like a regular firearm minus things like the melta

[opaque coyote]

Darktide

Honestly the Bolter now also feels like what it is

A fucking mini missile launcher

it feels powerful

[shell mason]

honest

[opaque coyote]

Idk about SM2 tho

[shell mason]

i love the bolt pistol

[storm jungle]

Its also just so fucking punchy

[shell mason]

also

[opaque coyote]

Main reason why I used it pre buff

It's that fucking sfx and feeling

[shell mason]

its really cool to see the difference between when a sm uses it vs a human

[opaque coyote]

It feels like you're Zeus and you're striking down some poor mf that forgot to wipe their feet

[opaque coyote]

Also the version we use is used by the Adeptus Arbites

It isn't even the SM version

It's a downscaled version for HUMANS

[storm jungle]

I mean there is no difference

you shoot the bolt, it makes the person explode

[dusk patrol]

There is

[storm jungle]

Nah

[dusk patrol]

Marines use a bigger payload

[opaque coyote]

The SM version has a higher caliber and more ammo I think?

[storm jungle]

unless you are gonna go into semantics and mention the bolt size

yeah that lol

Again its the same type of weapon

[dusk patrol]

Also different rounds

[storm jungle]

so it doesnt really matter

[opaque coyote]

Also the SM version is bigger because ofc it is

[dusk patrol]

I mean it does because it’s a harder hit

[shell mason]

i mean recoil wise

[storm jungle]

Okay but it still does the same thing

its a bolt weapon

[dusk patrol]

That’s like saying there’s no difference in artillery shells because they do the same thing

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, with the Votann also using Bolt weapons as well

I wonder if Bolters were basically the equivalent to like... the M4.

[storm jungle]

They hit the ground and explode

[dusk patrol]

Like yeah the idea is the same

[opaque coyote]

Like back in the DAoT bolters were just like

[storm jungle]

god

[opaque coyote]

Ordinary guns

[storm jungle]

same shit every day

[opaque coyote]

You go into the store

"Yeah I'd like to buy a Bolter"

[storm jungle]

We dont really know that

[dusk patrol]

I mean you’re the one being silly, there’s a difference lol, all bullets do basically the same thing

[storm jungle]

aside from "the bolter was around doing that time"

[opaque coyote]

True, but it's funny to think about

[dusk patrol]

It doesn’t mean there’s not a big distinction between a .50 cal and a 7.62 or whatever

[storm jungle]

Its a weapon that fires a bolt of any size and makes the person explode into meaty chunks. Im not talking about the size or its uses lol

[opaque coyote]

Imagine somebody buying it like it's a regular gun

Imagine people hanging it on their shelves

[dusk patrol]

You technically can irl I think

[opaque coyote]

Imagine what Gunshows were like back in the DAoT

[dusk patrol]

Gyrojet stuff is legal I think

[storm jungle]

They prob didnt exist either tbh

society back then was basically star trek

[dusk patrol]

It’s just you know, bad

That’s a huge fucking leap

Especially considering how it ended up

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I don't think so primarily because I 100% think it would be far more chaotic and far less peaceful

At least less peaceful compared to an outright utopia

[storm jungle]

I mean it pretty much was. Humanity was spread into enclaves that just did whatever.

[opaque coyote]

But we don't have much details about it

[storm jungle]

they even waged "wars" with each other but like it wasnt anything massive

[dusk patrol]

Based off what?

[storm jungle]

these just get mentioned EXTREMELY briefly though

[storm jungle]

Rulebooks lol

[dusk patrol]

They had insane super weapons

[storm jungle]

again its passing sentences

[dusk patrol]

We know they used them

Yeah we don’t get nearly that kinda info from the scant references we get

[storm jungle]

I mean its still information

so lol

[dusk patrol]

Some groups seemed nicer than others but we see plenty of war

[storm jungle]

....yeah i just said that

[dusk patrol]

Yes and the info is they had a shitton of absurd super weapons

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

Yeah also it doesn't mean that Gunshows didn't exist

[dusk patrol]

And used them

Also that

[opaque coyote]

Like maybe some DAoT people collected guns as a hobby

[forest orbit]

I mean

[dusk patrol]

The DAoT made a lot of the stuff we see in 40k

[opaque coyote]

"Yo guys check it out, I got a grav cannon"

[forest orbit]

"gunshows" would be a pretty primitive concept for advance socieities lol

stuff like that is where hicks go to just shoot shit

[dusk patrol]

Based off what?

[forest orbit]

...

That its kinda backwards

you numbskull

[storm jungle]

Not this again lol

[rocky gale]

Do you think they collected 40k as a hobby?

[opaque coyote]

True, but at the same time, Pompeii had evidence of "your mom" jokes

[dusk patrol]

Humans don’t change that much

[opaque coyote]

The first written joke that was ever found was literally a fart joke

[forest orbit]

They very much do

[opaque coyote]

What's the phrase

"The more things change, the more they stay the same"

[dusk patrol]

Either way, we definitely don’t have enough info on the DAoT to say either way.

[forest orbit]

Eh we kinda do enough through sparse stuff

its still better than nothing

[opaque coyote]

Also nothing compares to the sheer joy of shooting shit

[dusk patrol]

I’d love to see this info which says they probably didn’t do some kinda show for new weapons

[opaque coyote]

They probably have regulations for this kind of thing

But eh

[forest orbit]

Wheres the evidence that they did go to them then lol

[dusk patrol]

There wasn’t even one central group back then

[forest orbit]

you seem pretty adamant on that too

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/migit-gun-fail-fall-too-much-recoil-oh-no-gif-17385143

[dusk patrol]

I’m not saying they did for sure I’m saying we don’t know

[forest orbit]

Based on what

[dusk patrol]

I’m not the one making the claim

[dusk patrol]

Based off the lack of info we have

We don’t know much about the DAoT life for all the different groups

And there was so many and they were so different a lot could have happened

[forest orbit]

Considering half the stuff they did was superweapons of any kind depending on the convenient plot of a book i kinda doubt it tbh.

[dusk patrol]

There’s endless handheld dark age of technology weapons that are found

[shell mason]

two man system

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact that during the age of strife, Murder Cults of Psykers were popular, human nature was still very much a thing in DAoT lmao

[forest orbit]

by "endless" do you mean like 3-4

unless you are going to mention like every weapon that just loosely goes "this was very much a DAOT leftover tech"

[opaque coyote]

Although tbf, most of the psykers probably exploded into Daemons

[forest orbit]

which is even more flimsy

[opaque coyote]

So that's probably why murder cults were a thing

[dusk patrol]

I mean literally every Van Saar weapon

[forest orbit]

Not really the same

so no

[dusk patrol]

It’s literally STC tech so

Yes

[forest orbit]

Not really

thats just setting appropriate firearms of every kind everyone in the galaxy uses.

[dusk patrol]

The league weapons

[forest orbit]

Who also are imperial as hell for some reason

minus like what, plasma axes

and a pistol or two lol

[opaque coyote]

Anyways since we don't know shit about the DAoT

[dusk patrol]

Yes, because the imperium uses STC blueprints

[opaque coyote]

I'm just gonna say

There were probably gun shows

Purely because firing a bolter would be fun

[forest orbit]

That all again conveniently are just matchign with every human firearm used now

[opaque coyote]

"Yo check this shit out"

[forest orbit]

which are suppose to be primitive

[opaque coyote]

BLAM

[dusk patrol]

OK and

[storm jungle]

Yeah that is more just uh, lack of creativity on the modellers part tbh

[dusk patrol]

Yes, the setting is silly

[opaque coyote]

The Emperor created the first Bolters

[forest orbit]

No?

[opaque coyote]

Which existed beforehand

[dusk patrol]

That doesn’t change their dark age of technology weapons

[forest orbit]

He took the design

this is literalyl said the same sentence

[opaque coyote]

Sorry lemme rephrase that

[forest orbit]

and him saying "no i did it trust me guys"

[dusk patrol]

So which is it lol

[forest orbit]

No lol

[opaque coyote]

*He recreated the bolters during the Age of Strife by copying the design and most likely simplifying it

There we go

[forest orbit]

It being an STC doesnt make them DAOT weapons either lol

[dusk patrol]

Is there examples of Dark Age tech for hand held weapons or are they all not for some reason

[dusk patrol]

There’s dark age knives and forks that exist, it doesn’t need to be some super weapon to come from that age

[forest orbit]

You literally ask the STC to provide you with the stuff you need, if we went by that logic Van Saar would be getting miniature blackhole guns constantly.

[opaque coyote]

Also people collect guns from WW2 and WW1, some mf would 100% have far more primitive weapons.

[forest orbit]

So again, its just flair purposes and convenience

[dusk patrol]

The dark age isn’t all wacky super weapons

[forest orbit]

its not the same thing

[forest orbit]

It very much is for the most part

[dusk patrol]

They had basic guns and gear

[forest orbit]

its how its presented lol

[dusk patrol]

This is completely false

[opaque coyote]

To summarize the entire argument

We dunno

[forest orbit]

Its completely true

literally every DAOT tech 99% of the time is some superweapon

because uh yolo

[dusk patrol]

STCs are all from the DAoT

[opaque coyote]

The Bolter probably came from the DAoT, or maybe even before when Humanity was in Generation ships

Either way, wefwfewc

yes

[dusk patrol]

What they make it all technically Dark Age tech

[shell mason]

wat yall talking about?

[forest orbit]

That can also just provide you with "basic" material that isnt just DAOT tech.

[dusk patrol]

It doesn’t need to be some insane thing to be daot

[forest orbit]

It very much does

again just

stop being semantic

[crystal forum]

did you guys see the new reveal of the emperor miniature

[dusk patrol]

I’m not this is literally completely false

[forest orbit]

Its literally not

[storm jungle]

Can you two just like, shut up or take it to the DMs lol

[opaque coyote]

The DAOT is purposefully made ambigious so that we can imagine and homebrew our own shit

As far as we know, they probably had guns that shoot out Super Laser Piss that melts skin

[crystal forum]

like wow i never expected them to add an emperor mini

[dusk patrol]

Fucking knights are dark age tech and they use basic chain weapon technology

[shell mason]

aye witchfinder isn't telling me to shut up for once

LETS GOOOO CHAT

[crystal forum]

peak

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-party-champagne-gif-18280013

[opaque coyote]

ayo really lemme search up what it looks like

[crystal forum]

[shell mason]

Yeah lemme see this mini

[dusk patrol]

It’ll come eventually

[forest orbit]

Im surprised they still havent made a mini for him yet tbh

[storm jungle]

Its gonna get made

just give it time lol

[dusk patrol]

I expect it’ll be a diaroma for Horus ascendant

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbf it'd be awkward to have him get killed by a lucky guardsman shot

[shell mason]

i dont see it you liars

[storm jungle]

That can also be said for guilliman

[dusk patrol]

No ones gonna seriously play it like Horus Ascendant

[storm jungle]

and dante

or the lion

or like

any special character

[opaque coyote]

fair lmao

[shell mason]

my ma?

[dusk patrol]

Anyways primarch rules don’t let them get killed like that in 30k largely

[opaque coyote]

the idea is funny

[shell mason]

she a special character

[dusk patrol]

Primarch games are rare for a reason

[crystal forum]

you're special

[dusk patrol]

30k is easy to break and primarchs make it sillier

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

[dusk patrol]

Mostly people just buy them to have them and maybe have a couple goofy games

[shell mason]

maybe Vorx from the lords of silence

[dusk patrol]

Horus ascendant it’s basically impossible to have a good game with him

Emperor would be the same I think

[shell mason]

if you have him you instant win

[rocky gale]

Primarchs in 40k games typically get focus fired by the entire enemy army turn 1

[storm jungle]

^

[shell mason]

unless you have the emperor

[storm jungle]

Its very funny to watch lol

[rocky gale]

Like you're lucky if you even get a turn with it

[shell mason]

with a army of custodes

[rocky gale]

Angron is special because he just keeps coming back anyway

[shell mason]

honestly though

a alpharius is funny

[storm jungle]

The army of custodes when I throw a C4 at one

[shell mason]

literally this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hAHqSwWREk

[rocky gale]

Like if you're watching a 40k battle report and it comes down to like the final round with the players using their Primarch in a big cool showdown moment, it's 100% because they agreed beforehand not to wipe it turn 1 to make it more cinematic.

[shell mason]

no duh

[dusk patrol]

In 30k it depends

If your primarch is dying first round then you did a shit job positioning them

Also it’s super hard to do that anyways

[shell mason]

as the vid says

have them camping on the back objective

[dusk patrol]

Largely the issue comes in that if they do fight whoever dies decides the fight and its kinda boring

And their troop buffs get absurd

It’s fun for a goofy one off thing but it gets old

Certain characters are similar, Sigismund was an issue for awhile because he had eternal warrior

I think it’s mostly been resolved I can’t recall, but I don’t see him much and Heresy is largely played around a gentlemen’s agreement of not making it unfun for the other guy anyway

Otherwise everyone would just spam contemptors

(And then I spam grav Moritats)

[rocky gale]

You can spam Contemptors?

[dusk patrol]

If you wanna be an asshole yeah

Generally the rule is no more than one per 1000 points

They’re very strong rn

[shell mason]

have angron

[rocky gale]

How many theoretically could you have in an army?

[paper haven]

Make a 30k World Eaters army, claim they are loyalist. This is a lie
In reality you are playing as loyalist Alpha Legion

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I find Game Vs Lore funny

[shell mason]

love ya Dylan

never change

[opaque coyote]

Custodes, the Emperor's companions and body guards

Beyond Superhuman, each one finely crafted and trained.

Each one has thousands of years of experience under their belt. Their names look more like a paragraph.

...

Dies to one bolter shot to the face

[paper haven]

All those names don't make you bullet proof

[shell mason]

Was cool to see both SOS and Custodes in my local nerd store

[dusk patrol]

I’d have to check but I’ve seen people bring like 5 to a 2000 point army and it destroys

[shell mason]

mood

[opaque coyote]

"Is... all well?"

signs "No the world is doomed, and everyone else upon it."

"...yess.... all is well..."

I love how in that episode. The Sister of Silence literally just walks away in the most DGAF way ever

Like you can tell they're like

[dusk patrol]

Sister could learn some PR skills

[opaque coyote]

"That's what you're telling them? Okay fine fuck you then."

[shell mason]

YEP JUST SIGN LANGUAGED "Yeah this place is fucked bro"

Just gets fucking ignored

[opaque coyote]

tbf, i don't think you're also supposed to tell them

"YOU'RE GOING TO DIE. RUN RUN RUN"

Cause that will just make them panic horribly

[storm jungle]

Yeah she doesnt get ignored

[paper haven]

Although she probably should run

[shell mason]

My point is

[storm jungle]

The custodes just knows these people are dead anyway and its not worth creating a scene

[opaque coyote]

But at the same time you're not supposed to tell them

[storm jungle]

^

Superiors lie to troops in war all the time so 💀

[opaque coyote]

"Nah all is fine, you're not gonna die. Ignore the shaking of the planet"

[shell mason]

Ignorance is bliss

[opaque coyote]

So basically the Custodes and the SoS don't know how to interact with people

two sides of the same coin

[shell mason]

Dm the exterminatus slowly charging above us

[opaque coyote]

and both of them are shit

[shell mason]

I mean

One side is just sign language realist Amazon

[opaque coyote]

One is a Super soldier literally isolated from others and can't interact with others because they will literally have a fucking seizure

[shell mason]

the others

[opaque coyote]

The other is an even Superior Soldier that is literally so far from humanity, the only thing that they have the same is the general shape

[shell mason]

.....Are so old and busy guarding a corpse they probably forgot

Shout out to the shadow keepers though

[storm jungle]

To be fair some do some dont

[opaque coyote]

Imagine a custodes trying to make small talk with someone

[storm jungle]

theres some Custodians who are just "blokes"

and can talk/socialize very well

[shell mason]

Someone did, it was child who was talking they're dad

[opaque coyote]

"So have you read Nietzsche?"

"What is that? Is that a food?"

"...oh right only the palace has copies of his books... uhhhhhh-"

[shell mason]

The custodes just looks at him and says "My father was a warlord that was killed by the Emperor."

[opaque coyote]

I can imagine those that were there when the emperor was still

recently entombed/alive

[storm jungle]

Its hard to really group them together because every Custodian is different from each other personality wise. They are individuals first, warriors second, its what makes them above most people.

[opaque coyote]

are socialable

[shell mason]

However

[opaque coyote]

while the more recent ones are kinda socially awkward

[storm jungle]

They dont have a "set" personality for the most part.

[shell mason]

I think the only person more awkward than the custodes

[paper haven]

Aren't custodes also supposed to be diplomats and philosophers? They should be able to socialize very well, they just don't care most of the time.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah true

You can almost believe they aren't horribly brainwashed at times

[shell mason]

is the shadowkeepers

[dusk patrol]

A lot can fine

Some choose to not give a fuck

[storm jungle]

^

Again

[dusk patrol]

As said they’re very different

[storm jungle]

they are all different

the codexes just uh

present them as 1 personality

because its easy to write lol

which they do with like almost every faction so its fine, its for marketing

[dusk patrol]

Some are much much more diplomatic and charismatic while others are cold assholes, they also pursue different fields and interests

[opaque coyote]

Also as a question, is there anyone who like

got infected by a genestealer and was like

"No"

and then just continued as per normal

[dusk patrol]

There was a space marine chapter who resisted it

[storm jungle]

You cant really do that.

[dusk patrol]

Also the Tau have apparently cured it

[storm jungle]

and tau got healthcare yeah

with the Imperium its basically impossible

[opaque coyote]

yeah ik, generally it's at the DNA level which is hard to remove

[dusk patrol]

Or can, but how widespread that is it’s not clear

[storm jungle]

Pretty much yeah.

[opaque coyote]

It's probably extremely hard

Generally I think the Imperium has better medical technology than the Tau?

So maybe the Imperium also can

[shell mason]

Tau are commies they don't count

[opaque coyote]

They just

don't bother

[storm jungle]

The Imperium has better med-tech for our standards

Tau are still more advanced

but not like super-super

[dusk patrol]

They do largely

Tau are way behind them in bio tech largely, but they have less people

[shell mason]

they're space commies

[storm jungle]

[shell mason]

Idfw that at all

[opaque coyote]

They aren't even commies

[storm jungle]

Im gonna kill myself

[opaque coyote]

They are more like

Fascists tbh

[dusk patrol]

And the best imperium biologis aren’t gonna be focusing on that and also it’s not going to the millions or billions of potential infected or whatever

[storm jungle]

They literally use a fucking caste system

[shell mason]

HAHAHAHA

[opaque coyote]

With a caste system

[crystal forum]

noooo dilara you're too cool to die

[dusk patrol]

Tau also largely just purge cults they find

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

They are honestly the opposite of Communists

[storm jungle]

Also most people in the Tau sphere like

got no reason to join cults

[opaque coyote]

The Eldar are more communists ffs