#40k-lore-chat

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dusk patrol
opaque coyote
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Like it's just good ol

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fun

dusk patrol
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This guy hasn’t even started yet for example

opaque coyote
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Also are there any gay SMs

arctic talon
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That’s not a 12 year old

opaque coyote
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Asking for a friend-

gray umbra
opaque coyote
gray umbra
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what do you think they did in the warrior lodges

arctic talon
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They don’t feel sexual attraction

dusk patrol
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He’s at best 16-18, Fenrisians are built different

near wasp
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Ayo

paper haven
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Depends on how deeply you want to mimic rome

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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Most marines are taken before sexual feelings can even develop

raven stone
arctic talon
dusk patrol
arctic talon
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Since they had them in the past

opaque coyote
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Ah

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Okay then

arctic talon
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If one of them was gay before then yeah

dusk patrol
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And they can look at a lady or whatever and notice that she’s pretty

arctic talon
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But shrugpriest

dusk patrol
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But they’re not actually dtf

gray umbra
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as dilara once said

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sms are mentally virgins

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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Except of course for your mom

near wasp
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They are psychologically programed to care more for there brotherhood than for delights such as women

paper haven
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The process basically takes their personality, photocopies it, and then places that over the new space marine brain.

dusk patrol
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Since everyone bangs her

opaque coyote
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The Space Wolf SM "romance" would be a friends with benefits type of thing

dusk patrol
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We don’t have examples

opaque coyote
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While the Word Bearer would entirely be one sided

dusk patrol
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And marines don’t do romance anyways

opaque coyote
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Like the Word Bearer would just be entirely unaware

paper haven
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They might remember what attraction is, but their brain can no longer really process those feelings

arctic talon
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^this

paper haven
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They are sentient weapons after all

dusk patrol
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Most marines don’t get it at all

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SW experienced it once so they understand a bit more

raven stone
dusk patrol
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There’s a funny scene in a Ventris book where he and his squad have to attend a ball and they just close ranks in a corner after the noblewomen keep trying to flirt with them

paper haven
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Remember that the transformation process is deeply traumatic

storm jungle
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its too relatable

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lmao

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"Can I leave."

opaque coyote
near wasp
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Ive been alone for so long idk even how to talk to a woman anymore

raven stone
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IIRC there was even a Marine in a book that was so unsettled by the idea of talking with children.

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He was glad when the child asked about battles…

paper haven
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I read a story where a World eater was speaking to a child

dusk patrol
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Also in Forges of Mars some Black Templars have to attend a dinner and the Reclusiarch, in terminator armor, has his table manners and everything down pat while another BT has no idea what to do so he just sits and stares awkwardly

paper haven
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He didn't kill the child, but it was cutting it very close

gray umbra
green loom
gray umbra
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tru

raven stone
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Also also…
If you take the RPG books into account.
Deathwatch actually have to reverse train solo Marines with social protocols for certain situations that requires only a solo Kill Marine.

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But high coordination with local forces

gray umbra
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space marines have negative rizz

arctic talon
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I’d say chaplains have decent charisma

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Lol

paper haven
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The kid asked a question that was vaguely illegal and the butcher's nails were like: Enemy detected, kill everyone.

raven stone
dusk patrol
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And there’s the Deathwatch chaplain in Eisenhorn who does the pinkies up and sips tea from tiny cups

arctic talon
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He’s also just a dick

gray umbra
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Leandros makes pretty good speeches too

arctic talon
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There’s a reason he’s decently liked by some

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Lol

raven stone
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Ok fair in both cases.

arctic talon
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He’s just also a massive prick

gray umbra
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i think generally super traumatized killing machines will probably have a hard time talking to normal people

dusk patrol
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There’s a funny scene in a Iron Hands book where the chaplain has to be charismatic and charming to some guardsmen and the rest of the IH are borderline disturbed by how he’s acting

opaque coyote
gray umbra
paper haven
near wasp
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Leandros being a chaplain still fucks me up but it makes sense kinda. Maybe he also had penance and this was the result. He wasn't wrong for turning in Titus but it was who he turned him into

paper haven
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"Here, have this flower."
"Thank you, citizen. Nom."

near wasp
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Titus absolutely should of been investigated

opaque coyote
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"Hello?"

gray umbra
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"this village was tainted by HERESY"

opaque coyote
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"I WILL POLLENATE NOW."

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"???"

paper haven
opaque coyote
paper haven
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I am aware

opaque coyote
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so...

dusk patrol
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Good

paper haven
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Which makes this even better

near wasp
opaque coyote
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Yeah the SM would probably feel himself being like ripped in half

storm jungle
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Cant wait for in like 500 years when we are long dead and our future generations deal with the cordyceps virus

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fucking losers

paper haven
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Get spored on nerds

storm jungle
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We enjoy mushrooms

gray umbra
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sometimes i wonder what our doomsday event will be

dusk patrol
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We’ll have too many augmetics by then

storm jungle
near wasp
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I want augments so bad

storm jungle
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real life always is

paper haven
snow fern
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stress and boredom do be roommates

gray umbra
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covid just kind of became the flu

dusk patrol
paper haven
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Honestly it was pretty disappointing as apocalypses go

dusk patrol
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Instead we’ll just expand and leave earth behind

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And eventually it’ll grow again

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And then the monkeys take over

paper haven
dusk patrol
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Eventually we’ll get to cowboy monkeys

paper haven
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Full circle

opaque coyote
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However if we managed to avoid these things

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Then we're fine

dusk patrol
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It’s actually gonna be society

paper haven
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It'll just be the plastic what kills us

opaque coyote
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Even then it won't kill us all

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It'll just suck

gray umbra
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i just figured it would be something like people being overworked to the point they dont have time or money to have kids

opaque coyote
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a lot

dusk patrol
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Actually scratch all that

raven stone
dusk patrol
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One day your mom is gonna finally reject a guy

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And then we’ll all die

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The end

near wasp
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I wonder when we'll remember that heads can go on pikes

gray umbra
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one day bodypillows will replace the touch of a woman

storm jungle
opaque coyote
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Usually people revolt if that happens

near wasp
opaque coyote
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The reason why we're having less kids now is because we're basically in a comfortable spot

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Basically

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We don't need to make 5 children

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Because 4 of them won't die

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before reaching 10 years old

storm jungle
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I love people who are like

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"previous generation people were the real gigachads like spartans"

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okay enjoy getting thrown off a cliff because you got a little bump on your chest i guess

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😔

languid meadow
opaque coyote
gray umbra
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oh like the "previous generation are more hardworking than you god darn millenials/gen zers"

opaque coyote
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From physical to mental to whatever

raven stone
opaque coyote
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A tale as old as time

raven stone
opaque coyote
gray umbra
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sometimes i look at the older people i work with and i wonder how they can exist

opaque coyote
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But even then, people forget that diseases exist

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So

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Yeah even the body builders would potentially die

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Because they got a paper cut at the wrong time

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People forget that natural selection doesn't ACTUALLY care about how strong you are

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or even how smart

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No, what it truly cares about is FUCKING

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Literally

raven stone
opaque coyote
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Why do you think insects are prevalent

languid meadow
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the bug menace

opaque coyote
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They live for like 5 days, but they breed so much that it doesn't even matter

opaque coyote
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Problem is that it's not flawless

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A lot of disease kill us by literally turning our own defenses against us

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Not even due to the actual disease

gray umbra
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human body is pretty resilient in general

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got launched off a bike recently and bounced down a highway. Only got away with cracked ribs and a fucked up arm

opaque coyote
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Hell Allergies are just the body falsely thinking that the Pistachoes you're eating is totally poison

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And basically firing at nothing

opaque coyote
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Both physically and mentally, our bodies are tough.

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But that doesn't mean that it's flawless

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...

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WHICH IS WHY WE SHOULD GET CYBERNETICS BABYEE

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TRANSHUMANISM IS THE WAY TO GO

gray umbra
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if i got a sandevistan i would be 100 percent more productive

opaque coyote
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PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH

gray umbra
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gotta wait for the musk chip

opaque coyote
gray umbra
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im ok with that

opaque coyote
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Like basically editing ourselves to the point where we're simply not human anymore

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Whether genetically, cybernetically, or both

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Which honestly

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The ideal way for us to become ""extinct""

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Is if we simply became so good that we ascended past the label of "human"

gray umbra
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only issue might be the cost

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unless you're like taking out a loan on a new part

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oh shit

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we can have repomen

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but for augments

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"sorry sir, you havent paid the last 3 months for your heart. we're gonna have to repossess it"

raven stone
gray umbra
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hey logitech is trying to make their mouses a SaaS product now

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where u pay a sub to use your mouse lmao

raven stone
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Fuckers.

shadow plover
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as if their shit weren't bad enoug already

opaque coyote
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I forgot it's name but pretty much

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Your life is on lease

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Well

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Your body to be precise

opaque coyote
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If you can't pay for your body

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...

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well

opaque coyote
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Women had far more freedom compared to the other greek states

green loom
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Were they the ones with the twinks

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Or was that Athens

opaque coyote
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And they even had their own unique version of Aphoridite.

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Who was a war goddess

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It also explains why more """current""" greek mythology have Aphoridite and Ares in an affair

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Ares also never kidnapped/raped somebody

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In fact, when somebody SA'd one of his daughters

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He fucking killed them

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It's funny that the two most "morally upright" Greek gods are Ares and Hades

opaque coyote
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Alcippe was attacked and raped on the beach of Athens by a son of Poseidon

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So Ares came to her aid and murdered the perpetrator

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Poseidon demanded justice for his son, and Ares was judged by the Court of the Gods in what, according to the myth, was the first trial in history.

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Ares claimed to have killed Poseidon's son to defend/avenge his daughter from rape, and Alcippe confirmed her father's statement. The gods believed them and, as there were no witnesses to the contrary, completely acquitted Ares.

misty brook
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I know humans have a afterlife if they worship the Emperor. Or they get eaten by daemons in the Warp. Is there a afterlife where is the exact same for the humans like with Ynnead for the Craftworlders or no?

dusk patrol
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People will read this and say Black library has contrived writing smh

dusk patrol
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Maybe

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Not consistent or clear

opaque coyote
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Like what happens after death irl

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It's one big shrug

dusk patrol
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We know they seem to mostly disappate but sometimes they don’t

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And also there’s ghosts and stuff and whatever

opaque coyote
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specifically, HOW he got turned into a deer and eaten by wolves

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With the original being long gone

dusk patrol
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Also a lot of it was pretty clearly

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“Heh what if a lady got fucked by a swan”

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Lots of pervy fan service

opaque coyote
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A lot of kings and such wanted to claim

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"Our city was founded by a son of Zeus"

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"Uhhh... yeah our city also"

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and then it sort of devolved

dusk patrol
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I’m looking forward to Ralph Finnes doing a movie on the end of the Odyssey

opaque coyote
rocky gale
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Brunt is missing

opaque coyote
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"Odysseus's crew are fucking idiots"

rocky gale
opaque coyote
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Literally most the problems are the fault of his crew

raven stone
opaque coyote
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Actually it probably isn't lmao

raven stone
opaque coyote
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Also I find it funny that after eating the golden cows

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They went on the ship

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And then ship FUCKING EXPLODES

raven stone
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Ancient myth is weird in that it sometimes is a blend of fact and fiction, other times it is purely made up…

opaque coyote
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Literally killing all the crew

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and only leaving odysseus alive

dusk patrol
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Odyssey is a pretty depressing story

raven stone
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Guy had to fight for his own home as well

dusk patrol
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By the end he’s just old and bitter and he kills basically everyone

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Except like his wife and a few servants

gray umbra
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greek heroes are meme factories

opaque coyote
rocky gale
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The Odyssey is a myth so old that we're not even certain if the guy who allegedly wrote it was even real.

opaque coyote
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like the dog dies after he meets him again

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...

misty brook
# gray umbra greek heroes are meme factories

Yea. Chiron the centaur god of teaching gets poked with a poison arrow, coated in the venom of the Lemean Hydra. And wants to die, but can't because of his immorality and asks Zeus to take it away so he can die.

raven stone
opaque coyote
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And also insulted his son

dusk patrol
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Like he’s somewhat justified for some but he also almost kills his wife

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It’s definitely a vengeance thing

raven stone
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Well the servants who sold him out in his absence was the version I read.

opaque coyote
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Fun fact by the way, Bows were reconsidered disrespectful to be killed by for the Greeks.

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Basically they were mainly used for hunting

misty brook
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To be fair though. Odysseus has nothing on Hercules.

dusk patrol
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He’s definitely somewhat justified but he’s also not really the good guy

opaque coyote
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So him literally killing the suitors is basically him treating them like animals

raven stone
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interesting

misty brook
dusk patrol
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Also one of the suitors is a nice guy and he tries to tell him to leave but he doesn’t

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So he gets killed too

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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“Don’t come to school tomorrow” energy

raven stone
dusk patrol
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His wife included really

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It had been like 30 years?

misty brook
opaque coyote
raven stone
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…yea ok, that is kind of plain ridiculous, I actually forgot the time frame there.

opaque coyote
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So there was no such thing as

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"Woman not wanting to take up another husband due to grief"

misty brook
dusk patrol
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Don’t get me wrong most of them had it coming

misty brook
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But by a bit.

opaque coyote
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Again like I said earlier

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Aphordite in Sparta was actually a War Goddess

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Why do you think she had an affair with Ares?

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bleh

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names

misty brook
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The only greek god I feel bad for is Hephatsus.

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Boy got birthed and almost killed by Hera, because of how ugly he was.

dusk patrol
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Hades and Hades wife Persephone, I think

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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They’re both pretty chill

opaque coyote
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Aphordite was married to Hepatsus

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...

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yeaaahh...

dusk patrol
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The one person she probably never fucked

misty brook
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Before that point.

opaque coyote
misty brook
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By the way. Do you guys like Blood of Zeus or no?

opaque coyote
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Also, there is actual historical precedent for why Hephatsus was wheelchair bound

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Basically

misty brook
opaque coyote
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Bronze was actually originally made by using Copper... AND MERCURY

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Which made all the blacksmiths sick

misty brook
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Same with the Mad Hatter too.

opaque coyote
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Which is why Hepatsus was often called sickly and his body weak

opaque coyote
opaque coyote
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Hades literally named cerberus "Spot"

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As for the kidnapping thing?

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A) Kidnapping women to become your partners was so common in ancient greece that it was practically an accepted way to get a partner

opaque coyote
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This is bad now ofc, but remember that it was quite literally a different time

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B) It was actually suggested by Zeus

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Basically Hades asked for advice on how to get a girlfriend

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And Zeus was like

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"Kidnap her"

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Literally

misty brook
opaque coyote
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The only thing I'd argue that Hades did wrong is the promagranite seeds thing

gray umbra
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zeus is a very rapey guy

opaque coyote
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And whenever a God is only referred to indirectly

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That's because people were literally so terrified of her

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That they didn't want to get her attention

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Her being the daughter of Demeter was something that was added far more ""recently""

misty brook
rocky gale
misty brook
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If I was a demi-god in Percy Jackson. I probably wanna be a son of Atlas.

rocky gale
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Titans were also Gods

misty brook
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The only thing I wish now for media is to portray titans as the same size as the Olympians. Not fucking giants, there is not description of them being that big.

rocky gale
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Yea media always depicts them as being giants or monsters compared to the Olympian Gods

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When like they were all Gods

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They were basically just different generations

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It's basically Boomers = Primordials, Millennials = Titans, Gen Z = Olympians

misty brook
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Yea, but their ancestors. The Greek Primordials were literal concepts though. So I think they would be big.

opaque coyote
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The Daughter of Demeter thing might've came after that

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Basically she had two main old euphemisms

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"Despoina" which has several meanings. Mainly "Queen, Dreaded, Mistress, and Awful"

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Which is also the oldest one we can find

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Later on, the daughter of Demeter thing came along with another Euphemism for Persephone "Kore"

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Maiden, Daughter, Girl, Child, Growth

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The original Persephone might've had a different name. But we don't know it because people refused to name her out of FEAR. Imagine being so terrifying that people refuse to say your actual name. She basically was like Voldemort in that she was "She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named".

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So basically to summarize:

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Broke: Hades, Dreaded King of the Dead and his cute wife, Persephone.
Woke: Persephone, Dreaded Queen of the Dead and her cute husband Hades.

misty brook
opaque coyote
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So Persephone trampled her to death

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and then turned her into the plant now known as "Mint"

misty brook
opaque coyote
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since it's mythology, all of em

misty brook
opaque coyote
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ye

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if I ever find a GW store near me, I'll probably buy a Tau army

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...I have nobody to play with tho

crisp heath
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How much does one army cost?

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Like average, not bare minimum

misty brook
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Did you guys like the Exodite series or no?

rocky gale
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It was alright

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Was very short and felt a bit pointless tbh

storm jungle
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It was basically butchered by GW as confirmed by ex-studio leakers

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so i just got no feelings on it unfortunately

rose thorn
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No clue why GW makes the worst choices with 40k

storm jungle
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WH+ is wild lol

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but yeah basically the product was gonna be way different but GW hopped on and changed a lot of things. They also had a "military expert" constantly shit change on the animation before it became what it was lol

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im PRETTY SURE you can still find the story on reddit, the account that leaked it got deleted too

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iirc they were already saying it was a dummy account because of that lmao

opaque coyote
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I also find it funny that Hadron is one of the Tech Priests that are more "socially aware".

And she constantly screams at you.

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But she is aware enough to at least make it so that she doesn't screech Binary at the pre-servitors

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She constantly chastises us but the thing is that she can just

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Not care

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In fact, she could not care about us or our weapons

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Basically she actually cares about the people she works with.

Even if they constantly make her want screech

rocky gale
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Dukane seems cool

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Does she only have voice lines for the new map or did they add new ones for the older maps?

crystal forum
tough haven
opaque coyote
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Big

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Honestly I imagine them as bigger than humans but not so much

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Like they're 6 meters tall

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Still gigantic but not necessarily mountain huge

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Also I think it's stated that the Olympians are actually giant in their true forms

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It's just that they commonly become smaller

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Because when Zeus revealed his true form to a mortal

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She immediately fucking died by the sight of him

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Like disintegrated

misty brook
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Well the word is used more to to scale the level of strength, intelligence, or importance rather than size.

misty brook
misty brook
# rose thorn What?

Dionysus is the God of Revelry aka parties. I'm just wondering if the Greeks made him. So they could drink a lot until they were drunk which was considered a state of spiritual ecstasy by them when worshipping Dionysus. Before passing out, of course.

hallow plover
hallow plover
misty brook
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So whenever a Commissar or a CO says "BAYONETS!!!". It's literally Leroy Jenkins time right?

rose thorn
storm jungle
storm jungle
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What did you assume

rose thorn
storm jungle
rose thorn
rocky gale
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Haven't we all made a Dionysus in our time

rose thorn
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I was checking if he thought that religion was invalid and fake or some shit

storm jungle
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Uhhh i mean

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it depends

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but also yeah nothing like that lol

storm jungle
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GYATT

rocky gale
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One second gotta check

arctic talon
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Hades made everyone in that game hot

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on god

rose thorn
storm jungle
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GYAAAAATT

gray umbra
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Dionice-us

arctic talon
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Chaos is hotter in 2

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their design is also cooler imo

storm jungle
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Chaos is lethal

arctic talon
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holding the head of their old form while there's a fetus coming out of its mouth goes hard

rose thorn
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non binary master

storm jungle
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this is some WILD shit

misty brook
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I need to play the Hades games...

arctic talon
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ngl

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my only real complaint about the new Chaos design is like

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the modern suit

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but like w/e

rocky gale
arctic talon
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They can do whatever the fuck they want

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lol

arctic talon
misty brook
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But out of the Greek Mythology. I'm surprised the Hero who slayed the Chimera, wasn't smited by Zeus or died from his fall on Pegasus..

arctic talon
rocky gale
arctic talon
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Melinoe is taking a bath with them

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next question

storm jungle
crystal forum
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not 40k related but check out what me and zimmer did during the month

storm jungle
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the people making these stories were high af

crystal forum
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zimmer is ridiculously good at modelling

misty brook
crystal forum
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it's from a video game

rocky gale
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My love for Hecate was short lived, for I have discovered Nemesis

arctic talon
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LOL

misty brook
crystal forum
arctic talon
rocky gale
arctic talon
crystal forum
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larmoth has no loyalty smh

rocky gale
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I am fickle

arctic talon
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Nemesis is great

rocky gale
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and weak

crystal forum
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not waifu material

arctic talon
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she's like actively antagonistic

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while also helping you

misty brook
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Is Selene in the game?

storm jungle
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Yep she is

misty brook
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WOW! The Pegasus though...

arctic talon
misty brook
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Not gonna lie the upside moon crescent makes her look like she has horns.

storm jungle
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Im half-sure it might be intentional

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makes her look pretty but sinister

misty brook
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Aphrodite is just out in the nude here... With strands of her hair conveniently placed too. Don't know much about her personality though. I need to play the game.

crystal forum
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ew

misty brook
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Just wondering, but what do you guys think about the webtoon comic Lore Olympus?

storm jungle
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I like it but its just not for me

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the artstyle is a bit of an eyesore, but thats a me thing lol

arctic talon
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imo

storm jungle
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Shes pretty "lore" accurate id say

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Nice on the surface but a total cunt if you wrong her lmao

arctic talon
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"Between us goddesses, may you kill everybody standing in your way!"

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is really fucking funny

crystal forum
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sounds like you dilara

storm jungle
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ikr

crystal forum
arctic talon
storm jungle
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ITS SO GOOD

arctic talon
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10/10

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tbh

storm jungle
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I love how they just try to fucking kill you if you dont take their boon and someone elses

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like im glad they added that, it shows the awful maliciousness of greek gods really well

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they are not good people lmao

arctic talon
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its funnier that the cthonic gods are less

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whats the word

arctic talon
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Malicious lol

storm jungle
arctic talon
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They kind of just

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react in a more expected way?

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Stealing from Charon KEKsplode

storm jungle
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They are peak "Im just doing my job"

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making that minimum wage

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

stealing from Charon is like stealing from a Uber driver

#

literal peak "what the fuck"

arctic talon
#

I like how there's a fucking record scratch

#

when it happens

storm jungle
#

same, its comedic as fuck

#

lol

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

💀

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Hypnos is a mood btw

arctic talon
#

working hard or hardly working

storm jungle
#

Yes.

tough haven
storm jungle
#

HES GOATED

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🗣️ 💤

arctic talon
#

I like how he's just sleeping in 2

#

and none of his siblings give a shit which is even funnier

tough haven
arctic talon
#

meh

#

its something story relevant

tough haven
storm jungle
#

man id kill for that fucking blanket-coat holy shit

arctic talon
#

Its a beta

#

I think its funny how both nemesis and charon kind of just

#

like Charon saying he's more useful while asleep is interesting lol

misty brook
outer wave
#

Nice

misty brook
#

Question which Loyalist Primarch is gonna come back next? Leman Russ for me.

#

One we have the Logistics: Guilliman, The General: Lion El'Jonson, and Leman Russ being The Hand would be perfect to me.

storm jungle
#

Russ is the most likely one.

#

Its entirely related to miniature sales and Wolves sell pretty well and are pretty popular.

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The other loyalist founding Chapters less so lol

misty brook
#

Not gonna lie. I think Guilliman might rewrite or get rid of the Codex Astartes, since it is outdated himself he said.

rocky gale
#

Pretty sure he already rewrote it

rose thorn
rocky gale
#

😏

misty brook
#

I see. Though a Space Marine Chapter that has Legion strength would be helpful nowadays. But the only one I see who are like that are the Black Templars. Even with the introduction of Primaris Marines, due to high attrition rates of the sector-wide wars they fight.

rocky gale
#

They got split off into other Chapters as needed

arctic talon
misty brook
arctic talon
#

the BT just ignore that part of the Codex

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and no one asks questions

#

marines nowadays also are much higher quality then Legionaries during the great crusade

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a chapter cannot reach legion strength, not with the way marines are trained + used now

#

also there's more loyalist marines around now then the # of loyalist marines there were at the start of the heresy

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which is funny

red anvil
#

I wish the Imperium was kind to vaguely humanoid species

arctic talon
#

too bad

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Xenophobia time

misty brook
# arctic talon which is funny

It is. And I guess too with the training as well. But if it does happen. But the only ones that aren't bothered by it are the Sons of Russ.

misty brook
arctic talon
#

tbh if chapter numbers were uncapped

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it wouldn't change too much I'd say

#

most chapters struggle to stay full strength

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especially now

#

either way Guilliman is revising the funny book

#

I'd assume he'd most likely move the marine cap

misty brook
#

Yea. By the way has there been any Chaos Space Marines who wanted to redeem themselves to be a Loyalist again?

#

Cause they saw how fucked up Chaos is.

arctic talon
#

there's a few

#

usually the redemption is death

rocky gale
#

He needs to rewrite the bit about how many marines in a Chapter because it doesn't make sense

misty brook
arctic talon
#

there's one in the Sons of the Forest book

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I forgor the name of

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and there's a plague marine in a UM codex excerpt

#

from like 6e

rocky gale
#

Like there's 1000 in a Chapter, 10 companies, 100 in each company, 10 squads in a company, 10 marines in each squad, but each squad is led by a Sgt, each Company has two LT's, a Captain, atleast one Apothecary and a Librarian.

#

Numbers don't add up

arctic talon
#

Oh

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gw retcon'd some stuff

#

for command staff and such

#

Command staff, honor guard and specalists

#

don't count to the 1000 cap

rocky gale
#

Yea that makes sense because like the old stuff didn't make sense

arctic talon
#

I belive the retcon was in the second 7e Space marine codex

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or one of the supplements

misty brook
#

I imagine if the Imperium had a Musician especially one that's a rockstar. Their genre of rock music would tell about how much life sucks, but Humanity has the will to keep going. They would be extremely popular I think.

rocky gale
#

It'd be those state sponsored Soviet musicans

misty brook
#

I was thinking more Disturbed or Bad Omens.

#

Not that.

rocky gale
#

Too bad

misty brook
#

Okay. So the Space Marines that have it ROUGH are the Lamenters right?

arctic talon
#

In terms of named chapters

#

The chapters having miserable times are The Lamenters and the Carcharadons

arctic talon
#

Terrible supply issues

misty brook
#

I understand the Lamenters, especially now that they're beginning to get the Red Thirst and Black Rage.

arctic talon
#

They’re in exile

#

Technically

crystal forum
#

rejected birds

#

became sharks

arctic talon
#

They lack geneseed, they lack wargear even with the primaris reinforcments

misty brook
arctic talon
#

The space sharks we see in lore and in art

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Are uh

#

The prettier ones

arctic talon
#

They have some tech marines

#

But the tech marines have to make due with their terrible supplies

#

The only new supplies they get are via grey tithe

#

Which comes from them giving stuff to the mechanicus

#

And they get equipment based off of what they scrounge up

misty brook
#

Okay. What the fuck. This isn't efficient.

arctic talon
#

Yeah, corax hated them

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Or rather he hated their ancestors

#

They were sent out to die

#

He would still hate them now

crystal forum
#

corax is mean

arctic talon
#

Not really

#

He exiled the worst of the legion

#

The raven guard pre corax were a bunch of slaving sadistic psychopaths

#

Lol

misty brook
#

Fuck... I'm guessing the only humans that look different to the Imperium are the Nocturneans. They have onyx-black skin and red eyes too, right? Not gonna lie. If some of their people became Guardsman. They get shunned by the other humans.

arctic talon
#

Stuff like blue or red skin

#

They rarely show up

#

But yeah they do get uh

#

Looks

misty brook
arctic talon
#

The red skin isn’t clear

#

Where it’s from

misty brook
#

Because Magnus that's why.

arctic talon
#

Some planets just have odd skin colors that aren’t part of like our irl range of skin tone

#

Either way the carchs would still disgust corax

#

They recruit the same way

#

They treat their serfs the same way

crystal forum
#

mf had to scroll all the way down @languid meadow

#

thanks discord activity markers for showing this depravity

misty brook
arctic talon
#

Hell the Carcharadons barely know they’re from ravenguard genestock

misty brook
crystal forum
#

"imperium are the good guys"

arctic talon
#

Tbh the carchs read more like a chaos warband

#

Then imperial chapter

#

In how they uh

#

Equip themselves

#

Resupply Ect.

rose thorn
crystal forum
#

is that good ass or bad ass

rose thorn
#

Bad

crystal forum
#

i like hot ass

#

oh

#

ok

#

understood

languid meadow
#

just zealot chat htings

misty brook
languid meadow
#

things

arctic talon
#

I want to see the really fucked up Carcharadons armor

#

Shit with mismatched knee pads and stuff lol

misty brook
#

I had a dream I was a Ravenguard Space Marine some time ago. When I was listening to a Warhammer40K Audiobook about Orks in my sleep. Like why did I get that dream.

dusk patrol
red anvil
thick cedar
#

im going to sneak into the golden throne and put one of those propeller hats on the emperor

crystal forum
#

SHOW IT TO ME OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES

thorn zenith
#

giger af

thick cedar
#

isnt that old art?

red anvil
#

Yes

languid meadow
crystal forum
#

i like you

#

you live another day

rose thorn
#

We have warhammer mystery, we have warhammer horror, where is warhammer romance?

dusk patrol
#

I think they did that

crystal forum
#

you know i never really understood

#

is peddler bot a servitor or just admech

rose thorn
languid meadow
outer wave
# languid meadow

Okay so this comic annoys me because Im pretty sure the bullet should not be one solid slug but a small spray of gyro-rocketed pellets

crystal forum
#

although the trigger mechanism is buckwild

outer wave
#

True I can see that

#

I just thought they'd be smaller pellets

crisp heath
#

Rocket propelled bullets

#

40k is so silly

outer wave
#

Its so dumb

#

Its the pinnacle of "Lets shove in as many cool things about guns into one gun as possible"

crystal forum
#

65% more bullet per bullet

radiant lance
# crisp heath 40k is so silly

The Gyrojet is a family of unique firearms developed in the 1960s named for the method of gyroscopically stabilizing its projectiles. Rather than inert bullets, Gyrojets fire small rockets called Microjets which have little recoil and do not require a heavy barrel or chamber to resist the pressure of the combustion gases. Velocity on leaving the...

#

It was a real thing lol

#

It's just stupid for a lot of other reasons

#

Like why the hell are you using this heavy-ass ammo when you're just fighting normal humans

#

More dakka is better especially since there's things like heavy bolters where you want quantity over quality to actually do suppressing fire

surreal nest
radiant lance
#

Sure if you want overkill for some reason
We switched from .30 cal full rifle down to intermediate .223 for a reason

#

More rounds are just much better

surreal nest
#

Hey man I don't know why you are so insistent on applying real life logic to warhammer but it can't be good for you

radiant lance
#

It really isn't

opaque coyote
#

Honestly Rogue One's ending singlehandely made the beginning of A New Hope infinitely funnier

unique bloom
#

do you know why in this game is nurgle mostly representend

green loom
#

It's the faction they picked

#

Or more like themeing in this case I think

unique bloom
#

is though the best explanation for the hordes of enemies

misty brook
#

Though Khorne would be good too. A bunch of Khornites leroy jenkins into your team's firing range.

small grail
#

big booty custodes

thick cedar
#

How would the emperor react if I told him his golden throne reminds me of skibidi toilet

wintry stag
#

he wouldn't be able to hear you over the sound of 10000 screaming psykers being tube fed to him

raven stone
#

We getting real life lore now

thick cedar
#

hearing someone mutter "Skibidi Toilet" was the last fucking straw

small grail
#

mhm

green loom
#

Toilet skibidi

small grail
#

it will awaken when the throne shatters

green loom
#

You swear this on skibidi?

storm jungle
small grail
#

on fanum tax and baby gronk bro

small grail
#

nah bro

#

we locked the fridge

flat zodiac
#

You ever just.. wonder how pilots of war titans relief themselves? I mean, they spend a long time on those things and i can't imagine going for so long without taking a dump

rocky gale
#

2nd Von Shard book has been acquired

gray umbra
spring cairn
#

where is the piss pouch located on a space marine

rocky gale
raven stone
flat zodiac
#

EUGH

#

I'd pick A any day

outer wave
#

That's basically what space marine suits do anyway

dense dawn
#

Is the success rate of the ultra marines actually the result of the waagh energy or is that just a meme

raven stone
#

That is definitely very a meme

outer wave
#

^

#

The gestalt psychic field that the orks give off is powerful, but not that powerful nor that long ranged

#

Its more just oil for the machine thats reality to justify certain things working for the orks without them blowing up in their faces or whatnot

#

It still allows for some wackiness of course, like the colors being associated with certain attributes

queen laurel
#

That's one of the clear rules

#

at most they can make a gun that is a bit broken shoot but after shooting too many times the gun will straight up just not work

#

that's why their mechanics and doctors are actual mechanics and doctors

#

The only reason why their doctors seem ridiculous is because their biology is straight up insane

#

and their meks still need to build stuff

outer wave
#

Their guns can still be basically pieces of metal strapped together that could vaguely work like a gun in theory, right?

queen laurel
#

it's just very much poorly built

#

fill in the missing parts in the gun will work fine

outer wave
#

Oh I just recall the story of a tech priest taking apart one of the shootas to discover it was just a bunch of bolts and shit screwed inside

outer wave
#

Fair enough

queen laurel
#

It's still a functioning gun with the components required for a gun to function inside one

#

ork tech is still tech

outer wave
#

Basically its one of those Brazilian homemade guns rather than actual pieces of iron

queen laurel
#

tau even reversed engineered it

outer wave
queen laurel
#

It's just very much crudely built

#

it's still actual tech

outer wave
#

Gotcha gotcha

queen laurel
# outer wave Gotcha gotcha

like you can do what yarrick did and if you find an ork weapon you fancy and you find an equally heretical tech priest to help you out you can literally just make it work for you

outer wave
#

I wonder how that got cleared

#

Also imagine the infection cleaning they gotta do around the wound so Yarrick doesnt get shit like Tinnitus

#

No thats the wrong thing, whats the bacteria that usually resides in rusty metal

leaden pilot
#

Tetanus

outer wave
#

Tetanus!

queen laurel
outer wave
#

Thank you

queen laurel
#

just clean it duh

outer wave
#

Its still rusty metal being shoved into the arm

leaden pilot
#

Yeah, tetanus won't stick around that long, and the area where the claw is grafted to is probably long healed

outer wave
#

Fair

raven stone
#

Ad Mech is not immune from leverage of favours…

outer wave
#

Also true

queen laurel
#

they definitely fixed it up for him

#

that plus it's an implant so he can just kind of remove it

raven stone
#

And, depending on interpretation, some even say Ad Mech actually do know what they are doing.
Just that they prefer mystical language to describe everything they do.

#

Due to the religious angle.

outer wave
#

They do it to throw people off

raven stone
#

Pretty much.
That, and when you have the Imperium, where the lowest tech worlds are feral world cave humans…

#

…a mystical language as an instruction language is actually the most common instructional unifying language

#

(As a technical writer, looking at Ad Mech at this angle is fascinating)

outer wave
#

Im of the belief most of them are too into the whole 'machine spirit' stuff to really make more scientific analysis but its a fascinating thought point

raven stone
#

My interpretation of Ad Mech is that only the real higher ups of the organisation have remote understanding of what the translated, scientific principles are, but even they are obligated to play the charade and say everything in mystical tongues.
Not least because Ad Mech, as an organisation, has its political power based on its monopoly on knowledge.

#

The lower ranks are probably as you say - they buy it almost in full.

#

The mystical language serves Ad Mech’s purposes and the Imperial reality all very well.

#

As a secret knowledge tongue only the Ad Mech understands, and something with which you can rapidly induct any given tech level of human to know how to use stuff

outer wave
#

Damn its a pretty good theory

raven stone
#

It is what I like about 40k lore. Well, the better written aspects of it.

#

You could take it on the surface level, but give it some thought and valid, deeper secret alternative interpretations also become valid.

#

But the best of all, from a meta perspective, is that both the surface and the in depth interpretations are valid.

#

Because in the massive Imperium, there really are enough people who believe only the surface level stuff

#

Just as there are likely to be Rogue Traders/Inqusitors/[insert party of knowledge] who figured shit out

outer wave
#

Honestly true! I recall the story of how orks tried to hijack an Imperial Knight and managed to kill the pilot, but then the machine spirit went berserk and decided to self destruction. On the surface from what we know, this is legit: the machine spirit is a thing and probably had some influence of the Imperial Knight's past pilots and House ancestor spirits as well; however, considering that these things were made wayy back in the DAoT and were originally farming tech, could it not have been an AI that decided to blow itself up on realizing what was going on?

#

I love pieces of media that can do this, and why I think Umineko is peak fiction because it focuses heavily on this kind of meta writing aspect and interpretation

raven stone
#

Yes, media that leaves enough for interpretation but yet manages to keep all interpretations valid is surprisingly peak

outer wave
#

So peak brother

outer wave
gray umbra
#

No stop

#

My headcanon

rocky gale
#

Codex Astartes does not permit the usage of head cannons

rose thorn
#

That sure does look like a cannon on his head

shell mason
#

yo lore chat

rose thorn
shell mason
#

If i remember right if a regular human sat on the golden throne they'd be dusted correct?

spring cairn
#

unless it's me yes

rose thorn
#

That seems like utter bullshit that they would never mention in lore

#

But also thag seems to be more of an HH question

#

And HH makes up shit all the time

languid meadow
#

He's talking about malcador

rose thorn
#

Who was the throne made for this month?

rose thorn
rocky gale
queen laurel
rose thorn
gray umbra
#

Might not vaporize you unless youre actually using it

shell mason
#

you take me for some

#

some

rose thorn
shell mason
#

who doesn't take interest in the works of the 40k

rose thorn
#

Last time I checked it was star powered

queen laurel
shell mason
queen laurel
#

I mean the model does have a fire mold in the mouth

shell mason
#

you take me for someone who spreads misinformation of a domain that he like

#

s

queen laurel
#

But like it's just seems weird that it doesn't have any mention of them breathing fire hell their war scroll doesn't even give them fire

#

Just claws and teeth

rose thorn
queen laurel
#

It would be weird for this giant dragon looking thing to not have a breath weapon

opaque coyote
#

A creature thousands of years old that defies logic

#

Breathing fire from it's mouth that can easily melt metal

#

Intelligent but bestial

#

And proof that humanity is no longer on top of the food chain

#

It never was

outer wave
#

Why he licking his lips like that

paper haven
#

Cat things

#

The hissing at the screen was more my intent.

opaque coyote
#

"Female cat pics"

#

"Pus-" backspace spam

#

"Female cat"

rocky gale
#

He's wearing a bow-tie and glasses, he's clearly looking at important business

opaque coyote
paper haven
#

They could really use it.

opaque coyote
#

Honestly I think it would be funny if

#

Something like Excel was never found/invented by the Imperium

#

Like the DAoT humans had it on whatever computers they had

#

But after the age of Strife, it was lost

#

And humanity was too busy surviving to make something like a Spreadsheet

storm jungle
opaque coyote
#

"Spreadsheets? Bro we're fighting against 50 daemons smacking against our wall. We don't need fucking spreadsheets right now"

paper haven
#

Imagine how computers were before operating systems came in. Everything was just command messages on a black screen. That's my headcanon for cogitators.

opaque coyote
#

I honestly think Cogitators are like

#

A much more powerful Macintosh

#

Also apparently entertainment in 40k is lacking

near wasp
#

Can a cogiator run doom

opaque coyote
#

So we know that

Porn exists
Theater Shows exists

#

But I don't think they have like

#

TV or anything to entertain

#

It's never mentioned

arctic talon
opaque coyote
#

There's jackshit to even distract the average Imperial citizen from how shitty the universe is

#

Truly miserable

near wasp
#

The only thing that matters is your duty to the god emperor

opaque coyote
#

Oh yeah also this goes hard

#

"Unleash the Death dealer"

paper haven
#

Chant this to prevent a malfunction

opaque coyote
#

I am going to use this quote somewhere

#

I can imagine a scene where like

#

A Guardsman shakily and nervously mutters this prayer as he loads a machine gun

#

While a bunch of Tyranids charge him

#

Praying to the machine Gun's spirit because y'know

#

It's his only defense

outer wave
opaque coyote
#

VRRRR

#

Actually it would be funny if the Imperium still believed in Santa Claus

#

Somehow

#

Ik Sanguinala basically replaced Christmas

outer wave
#

I'd love that

leaden pilot
#

Santa Sang

opaque coyote
#

And so a new "Saint" (A greater daemon made by belief) was born

#

They say that if you offer milk and cookies in the battlefield

leaden pilot
opaque coyote
#

A jolly fat man will come down in a sleigh

#

Kroatolids pulling his sleigh as he brings hellfire down towards the foes of the Imperium

#

He jumps down and gives them a nice gift of Lead

#

Metal gilded claws gutting them

gray umbra
#

P

outer wave
#

Now this is poggin' out

low gazelle
#

wait so the imperium straight up mudered any friiendly xenos?

outer wave
#

During the Great Crusade, they managed to kill many friendly xenos

#

The ones they haven't either are too hard to take out, didn't come into play until 40k, or were too obscure

opaque coyote
#

Is because anything that could easily be killed by a lasgun

#

Are already dead

languid meadow
#

well the major threats are

opaque coyote
#

The Imperium basically dug itself in the hole it's in

languid meadow
#

there is still thousands of xeno and non imperium human civs around in the 42M since the galaxy is massive

opaque coyote
#

because GW

languid meadow
#

yeah

opaque coyote
#

But yeah the Tau have auxillaries that aren't Kroot or Vespids

languid meadow
#

besides the species we hear of for world building that never get mentioned again

opaque coyote
#

and honestly, they sound awesome

#

especially for models

languid meadow
#

there are like 12 client species for the tau (this is wrong see below message)

opaque coyote
languid meadow
#

26 species (excluding tau, humans, kroot, and vespids)

opaque coyote
#

Basically they're so fucking gigantic, that they can go against "super heavy combat walkers"

#

Knights are in the same category btw

#

They're so resilient, aggressive, and gigantic that they can fight Knights

#

But apparently, they are peaceful until they are roused to anger.

#

So basically, gentle giants until you piss them off

#

Imagine this creature but with like

#

Tau Armor

languid meadow
#

GW will never do it but I really want more models of tau auxiliaries

opaque coyote
#

Imagine the Tau creating a "battlesuit" around a Vorgh

#

Would be an excuse to have a Knight equivalent for Tau

#

Or even a Titan equivalent since it isn't confirmed how big they are

#

Like just imagine a Vorgh charging towards a Titan

#

Fucking doing some wrestling moves

#

Imagine them Suplexing a Warhound

#

Imagine the shock of the Imperium as they see their Warhound get fucking rotated