40k-lore-chat

[sour hornet]

How is Commissar Dukane on the Mourningstar? Is it a courtesy act from Grendyl? I understand that the Inquisition is a totally different branch from the Guard, and Brahm's ship even further removed.

[raven stone]

Possibly unlikely.

[tough haven]

Da mek-priest, praise da Machine Git!

[queen laurel]

i can imagine a tech priests seeing what happened to the ship because of the ork and immediately dying of a mechanical heart attack

[dusk patrol]

S’orkrahteez

[raven stone]

I don’t think she is ever on the ship, just on the comms channel

[tough haven]

Commissars are often recruited by rogue traders cause they’re great commanders or at least fighters for the retinue

[queen laurel]

yeah she leads the 53rd moebians i think

so she's on ground

[dusk patrol]

Iirc the tech priests remaining were also pretty unhinged and heretical so it worked out

[tough haven]

Okimedes

[dusk patrol]

Fuck I can’t recall what the name the Ork Kommando dude with me had

Ork Kommandos get so insane late game

[sour hornet]

She's by the hangar.

Complaining that Rannick is ignoring her.

[dusk patrol]

It’s super easy to get an extremely high stealth and sneaky stat with Kommandos

[queen laurel]

"how do we improve the engines"

"i don't know mek humie, maybe some extra generators powered by dat warpy stuff"

[dusk patrol]

There was a time I passed a pretty key tech use test by a literally on the dot roll

And we RPed it as I just whacked it a shitton with my wrench and then it started working

And when asked what I did it was “Uh….not sure boss.”

[raven stone]

Wait we get access to hangar area? Or do we just hear about it on Mourningstar comms?
(Sorry can’t quite update game recently)

[sour hornet]

The door to the hangar, she's right by it.

[raven stone]

Fascinating

[dusk patrol]

Rogue Trader games can be a lot of fun

[sour hornet]

The area is fenced off, and she has one of Rannick's subordinates attending her.

[low gazelle]

thhank you

suchh a 40k way of doin thhiins

[gray umbra]

commissars aren't part of traditional guard structure either. they're from the administratum

[green loom]

Ehhhh

Branched a bit farther to say just administratum tbh

[gray umbra]

yeah maybe

[green loom]

They're a branch of the Munitorum which is a branch of the Administratum

Beaurocracy!

[gray umbra]

wouldnt be too far fetched for them to be in a rt/inquisition retinue is mostly what i mean

they're really good for what they do

[storm jungle]

yeah i think he mixed it up with Munitorum

I do too tbh, stupid ass made-up latin names

[sour hornet]

What exactly do they do?

That Morrow doesn't do, in particular

[storm jungle]

Just be more threatening prob

its basically like IRL, superior officers are all different from how harsh they get from one and another.

These ones can just shoot you dead lol

[sour hornet]

Well she doesn't threaten me more than Morrow. Morrow survived Armageddon.

[storm jungle]

I mean you say this behind her back onboard the ship and she'll step it up

[sour hornet]

Y'know, on an unrelated note, I'm gonna leave Dukane alone.

[storm jungle]

All jokes aside yeah even if superior officers dont scare you just remember they got the authority to make your life a living hell.

IRL they cant exactly kill you so they'll just resort to worse methods lol

[sour hornet]

Yeah, I fucked up as an armor recruit during OSUT and had to run around with an inert training round over my head.

Basically one of these.

Imagine that scene from Fury with the mechanic.

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

[opaque coyote]

Gotta go to the Adeptus Sextrium to get your license to cut the grass in front of your house

Seriously I cannot remember those fucking names lmao

[sour hornet]

Yelling "I AM A DUMBASS! I AM A DUMBASS!" over and over.

[storm jungle]

Yep, meanwhile in 40k the Commissars can actively kill you over the dumbest mistake since life is cheap.

Theres a reason they get the vietnam treatment when no one is looking lol

[sour hornet]

Dukane seems like a pretty durable woman though, given the missing leg.

[opaque coyote]

Generally the ones that are long lasting are the ones with

Actual common sense

Like Cain

[dusk patrol]

Doesn’t that mean she’s the opposite of durable

Since she’s missing the leg

[opaque coyote]

"Hmmm maybe I shouldn't shoot somebody for saying that the rations taste worse than usual"

https://tenor.com/view/doyobug-mind-gif-21088087

[dusk patrol]

Gaunt and Cain comment on how trigger happy Commissars tend to have short careers

[sour hornet]

Normally people die after being de-legged.

[dusk patrol]

You’re a morale officer, you pick and choose your executions with care

[queen laurel]

is cain lore wise the nicest commissar ever portrayed

[dusk patrol]

Probably

Gaunt is maybe comparable but he’s still tough when he needs to be

And he’s done a few executions

[storm jungle]

Iron Hands Moment

[dusk patrol]

That’s why you beat them to the punch

[thick cedar]

I will defeat chaos with magnets

[opaque coyote]

Yeah and that's why he's loved

And why people often fight harder in his presence

Cain, ironically, thinks it's because they're afraid of him

In reality, they're fighting harder because it's CAIN! THE HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!

Yet Cain cannot see his accomplishments

[dusk patrol]

Also, a leaks for SM2 cosmetics

Allegedly at least

[queen laurel]

Beakiez are here

[opaque coyote]

PRAISE THE BEAK

[dusk patrol]

They leaked the beak

[low gazelle]

WAIT

marneus calgar iisnt calgar

WTF

[dusk patrol]

Fuck me yes he is

He just took the name of a friend he grew up with who died before they became aspirants

He didn’t even take his identity

The kid was buried at his estate with his name

Marines often change their name when they become marines or aspirants

[queen laurel]

he is one of the nicer chapter masters it seems

[dusk patrol]

He just did that to honor him

[dusk patrol]

He’s a pretty nice guy

[queen laurel]

which chapter master in the loyalist is the most of a scumbag

[dusk patrol]

Seth probably

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-snake-mgs-mgsv-naked-snake-big-boss-gif-27484124

[dusk patrol]

There’s others but

Also I fucking hate that steamer or YouTuber

He keeps posting these shitty clips with terrible lore takes

OMG GUYS CALGAR ISNT CALGAR

Yes, he is

He just took a different name when he was like twelve

He’s been Marneus Calgar for 600+ years or whatever

[hallow plover]

Marneus Calgar Calgar

[storm jungle]

You see, you are Calgar.

And I'm Calgar too.

[hallow plover]

||Alpharius?||

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP

[crystal forum]

look at this little guy

adeptus adorablus

[dusk patrol]

He’s a fun character in the comic

[queen laurel]

if i get $1 million every time you see an unfunny warhammer meme that has been going for more than 50 years I would be rich

[dusk patrol]

If I got ten bucks I could retire

[shadow plover]

oh wow, Warhammer site has a dedicated model page for SM2

[dusk patrol]

I’d just browse grimdank and crash the global market

[dusk patrol]

Yeah based off stories I’ve heard it’s caused a massive influx of new people to their stores and site

[shadow plover]

no doubt

[dusk patrol]

There’s a reason they had the Titus VA do tie in lore videos

[shadow plover]

Finally, the TS Combat Patrol makes sense

the humbe Tzaangor will rise again

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-really-it-is-what-it-is-gif-17151262948504601369

[shadow plover]

hopefully not

stomp it out of existence

[low gazelle]

The calgar was the chapters we made along the way

[dusk patrol]

POV: You’re a Tzaangor

[storm jungle]

Hes the man who Ultramarined the world.

[crystal forum]

more space marine fans

this statistically means at least 1 more iron hand fan will exist

[queen laurel]

I guess this means that space marine 2 is the most successful warhammer game to date

[dusk patrol]

I wouldn’t go that far

[dusk patrol]

I think it’s already beaten everything else

[crystal forum]

https://tenor.com/view/shouting-development-dozens-of-us-bald-speaking-gif-16881775

[queen laurel]

yeah even total war didn't have this much following

it's definitely in history the most successful warhammer game ever made

[dusk patrol]

Although ngl I’ve seen a lot more fans for obscure chapters just because they like the scheme for this game

[queen laurel]

are black dragons a scheme in this game

[dusk patrol]

So, idk. People like black.

[dusk patrol]

Uh I think you can mostly make them

Use the salamanders symbol

The devs have said they wanna try to make it possible to do literally every single known chapter eventually

[storm jungle]

You can mostly do any color scheme, its just the symbols missing.

[queen laurel]

very well

The wait continues

[dusk patrol]

And black dragons aren’t exactly hard to pull off color wise

[storm jungle]

It'll probably be a DLC pack like most of the future content so prob wait on that.

[opaque coyote]

From 4 to 5 whole iron hands fans

Wow

Jokes aside. Iron Hands are cool for artists like me

Mainly because you can shove a bunch of Mechanicus shit with it

Finally, we can have unique space Marines without having them take off their fucking helmet

[dusk patrol]

I like em, looking forward to more augmetic options

Maybe beefier options like this

[hallow plover]

They could easily add chaplains, apothecaries and techmarines in sm2 for more cool drip

[storm jungle]

Its being considered.

support classes would be good as is

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think that it would be cool if they just went full fucking anime cyborg type shit.

Add hidden guns

Add non hidden guns

More dakka

[hallow plover]

Who would be the chaos equivalent? WB, EC and we already have the iron warriors

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

[opaque coyote]

Y'know how Strohiem in Jojo part 2 had a machine gun in his stomach

[storm jungle]

Dark Apostle Word Bearer = Chaplain

[opaque coyote]

Have that

[hallow plover]

Who's missing in the chaos factions?

[storm jungle]

Apothecary = Emperors Children

[hallow plover]

WB, EC and ???

[storm jungle]

Librarian = Thousand Sons

i legit do not understand how tf T.Sons are not in at launch lol

[hallow plover]

Ahh yea Tsons

[opaque coyote]

Imagine the sheer shock of having an Iron Hands revealing a Heavy Bolter in their stomach

[hallow plover]

I forgot about them lol even if they're the main baddies

[opaque coyote]

And then just firing at the enemies of the Imperium

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jojos-bizarre-adventures-the-best-in-the-world-guns-gif-15566867

[storm jungle]

Lmao yep

[opaque coyote]

You can't tell me this wouldn't be cool

Imagine a SM doing that

[storm jungle]

Chaos does it better

they got an entire unit dedicated to it

[opaque coyote]

HOLY SHIT THAT LOOKS AWESOME

My 6 year old self would have a fucking seizure from this lmao

[storm jungle]

That gun has a lot of guns

[hallow plover]

Stop I can't contain myself

[sour hornet]

Emperor's Child who became an Apothecary solely to gain access to more drugs and drug-making paraphernalia.

[opaque coyote]

what are they called btw

[storm jungle]

Obliterators

[opaque coyote]

That is so fucking cool

[storm jungle]

whoops reposted the first guy

[dusk patrol]

Hmm interesting, let me check the 10th Black Crusade scoreboard….

Oh damn

[hallow plover]

The tyrannid worldship that got infected by the Obliterator virus

[opaque coyote]

I like how the first picture, the guy's head is literally just a robotic skull

[hallow plover]

MORE GUNS

[storm jungle]

Idk what that means

[opaque coyote]

Like they added so much shit that they removed their own skin

[storm jungle]

also yeah the virus is just

[tough haven]

The Mechanicus:

[storm jungle]

"Gun"

[tough haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452219191580295168/1283255246323454002/68E36F0B-5E9B-4C4B-BEFC-51A301F54F94.gif

[dusk patrol]

Perturabo and Abbadon ganged up on Medusa with their legions to destroy Medusa

[hallow plover]

You just grow guns

[opaque coyote]

I mean yeah the Iron Hands are kinda a combo of SMs and the Mechanicus

[dusk patrol]

And got repelled

[opaque coyote]

So

[tough haven]

A member of the Cult is never unarmed

[opaque coyote]

Take advantage of that

[tough haven]

They can easily have hidden guns

[dusk patrol]

The problem is simple, you see if you look at Obliterators, you’ll notice all the flesh

[tough haven]

Or more guns all over them

[opaque coyote]

I'm imagining something stupid like

Gun Knee

Like an Iron Hand knees someone in the stomach

[tough haven]

It’s always possible with admech

[opaque coyote]

And there's a shotgun inside of it

BLAM

[opaque coyote]

Imagine someone's friends with a tech priest (somehow)

So they're like

"Come on man, we gotta go shopping"

[tough haven]

If you disarm a tech priest or iron hands, you better completely paralyze them

[opaque coyote]

"Hold on, I'm reloading all of my guns"

[tough haven]

Cause at least half of their body parts can be weapons

[hallow plover]

Iron hands got mostly gaslighted by the admech

[tough haven]

Common admech W

[opaque coyote]

Imagine the Tech Priest taking 3 hours to go outside in the morning

Why?

Cause they're reloading all their hidden weaponry

[raven stone]

Well they mostly gaslighted themselves. On account of their Primarch’s…well, iron hands.

[dusk patrol]

They had a brief period where the ad mech had a lot of power but they’ve since basically ignored them. That’s what the novels largely cover

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah and also the fact that they feel extremely gulity over their primarch's death

[dusk patrol]

They still have a close link but the voice of mars situation is much less powerful now

[hallow plover]

They were vulnerable prey for the admech

[opaque coyote]

They're basically constantly in a state of depression and dysphoria

which is actually kinda sad

[dusk patrol]

It wasn’t until thousands of years after the heresy that the ad mech had much control of the chapter and even then it wasn’t a stable level

[tough haven]

It’s really insulting that you think they arent auto load

[opaque coyote]

I mean you gotta fix some weapons, unjam some others, load the boxes

[dusk patrol]

There’s a dreadnought who comments on how they’ve slowly started trying to get more control

[raven stone]

True, but I mean, some of their Cybernetic legion units were pre-Istvaan massacre.
The Gorgon Terminators, for one.

[tough haven]

I’d like iron hands if they had more lore

[opaque coyote]

Same

[dusk patrol]

They’ve always liked cybernetics

That doesn’t have to do with that Ad Mech though

That was due to Ferrus

[opaque coyote]

Yeah so much so that their primarch is basically like

"Come on guys please stop"

"No."

inserts kebab spinner into chest

[dusk patrol]

He didn’t like directly controlling them and also their arguments for the use were sound

They did make them stronger

[hallow plover]

There's the Steel Confessors who are like a private chapter for the Admech I think?

[dusk patrol]

So they’re kinda

Debatable canon

[tough haven]

The first part is Ferrus manus

[opaque coyote]

True. Augmentics do actually improve them. But at the same time, they do it even when it's... arguably not needed

[raven stone]

TBF the 40k era did try.
They briefly had an asshole Clan Father that was all Ad Amech (to the point of sacrificing Ravenguard Marines to enact a trap gambit)
But then said asshole Clan Father actually fell victim to Slaanesh corruption.
And a more sensible guy took charge.

[dusk patrol]

They’re not mentioned much and they were basically just one dudes homebrew mentioned one time

And iirc the lore for them wasn’t even clear in that White Dwarf

[dusk patrol]

It is because it makes them better

The chapter as a whole leans much older because their extreme durability

[opaque coyote]

Yup. Problem is that it's proven that making yourself robotic also kinda does bad shit to your soul

So

[tough haven]

Now this would be a peak irl warband concept

Blood axes that emulate admech a little too much

[dusk patrol]

Who cares?

[opaque coyote]

There's that

[dusk patrol]

Theyre weapons

They don’t care about doing anything other than that

Marines are already fucked up monsters

[hallow plover]

I love the gun ork servo skull

[tough haven]

Is that true? Pretty sure tech priests and even servitors have souls just like normal humans when you look with witchsight, which makes servitors even more horrific

[dusk patrol]

Bionics don’t really make them somehow more fucked up

[tough haven]

Me too

[dusk patrol]

Sources vary

[tough haven]

I don’t think your soul is tied to your flesh, it’s more metaphysically entangled

[opaque coyote]

Look at the background art

[tough haven]

Nah that’s not as silly tbh

And not as feasible

[opaque coyote]

It's kinda like a "You're literally ripping yourself apart." type of thing

Obsessive self mutilation isn't good for you, yadayadayada

[dusk patrol]

Some of their souls are dimmer but it’s also a thing they don’t really care about

[opaque coyote]

And all the tech priests fell asleep

[dusk patrol]

Like I said, they’re all monsters

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, it also could be due to all of the uh

atrocities they do

Even if they're completely used to it, and think they're fine

It still weighs on you unconsciously

[dusk patrol]

Marines are pretty broken individuals largely

The whole process is fucked up

[opaque coyote]

insert that Night Lords scene about the mother

Seriously, despite how much that excerpt is spammed

It still gets me at times

[dusk patrol]

I feel like a lot of fans don’t really think about what the whole marine process is doing

When I always hear about how messed up the iron hands deal is

As if that’s somehow a step too far

They’re all mutilated and monstrous individuals twisted into weapons of war

Who will never have real lives and will probably die horribly

[opaque coyote]

Especially since it's vague on whether Talos actually recognized her

Honestly I think that Talos did recognize her, but chose to ignore it

Like it's too painful for him to register that he had a family that cared for him

So he denies that she ever existed

Deny that he still had someone waiting for him after all this time

Deny that he let the enforcers shoot her

[dusk patrol]

I dunno, either way the point it they’re all pretty fucked up

[opaque coyote]

It was just an old lady

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I feel like a lot of "Imperial Supporters"

forget that you're basically brainwashed lmao

[dusk patrol]

I think people don’t really think it through tbh

It’s the same for anything

“Oh wow Masterchief is cool”

“Clones are so cool”

And whatever else

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, I think that Halo 4 actually tried something interesting story wise

[dusk patrol]

You’re looking at the pretty cool fighter end product doing cool stuff as a power fantasy

[opaque coyote]

Like it was flawed writing and gameplay wise

But the story of Cortana and Chief was genuinely interesting

At least until

Halo 5 ruined it

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I try not to think of that

[storm jungle]

People who wanna be Spartans should be forced to watch that one cinematic where Chief gets his skull and body drilled into by like 30 surgery tools

💀

[opaque coyote]

Infinite was actually pretty good story AND gameplay wise

Like Halo Infinite's gameplay is fun

[queen laurel]

Well if they are becoming the later spartans they have better chance of surviving

[opaque coyote]

Problem is that 343 doesn't know things like

[dusk patrol]

People like power fantasies, I think most people would probably say they wouldn’t actually wanna do that

[opaque coyote]

"Actually actively adding content"

And

[queen laurel]

But if they plan to become spartan 2s

Well they're going to die

[autumn cypress]

oh i just realized the new event is that we have to kill some unlucky bastards in the moebian 21st

[dusk patrol]

But the idea of being that dude is cool

[opaque coyote]

'Supporting the fucking multiplayer"

[paper haven]

Later versions of the Spartans were way safer to produce, but not nearly as powerful

[opaque coyote]

Also it's often forgotten that the Spartan II's were originally made to put down rebellions

Over a dispute that was actually reasonable

[paper haven]

Which is hilarious

[dusk patrol]

They lacked the genetic perfection of the Spartan IIs

For IIIs and IVs they vastly opened up the qualifying genetics

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think that they should have gone with the aftermath of the Covenant invasion more

[paper haven]

The doctor lady is not a good person

[dusk patrol]

No she is not

[opaque coyote]

Like have Master Chief go after insurrectionists and be conflicted

[paper haven]

And the UNSC are the good guys only because of an existential threat

[dusk patrol]

The Innies aren’t some clear good guys either

It’s complicated

I wouldn’t say the UNSC are good but they’re not inherently bad either

[paper haven]

Yeah, rebellions are like that

[opaque coyote]

She did have one fair point.

Basically in the intro of Halo 4, she was put under trial by ONI for war crimes for creating the Spartans.

And her response could be summarized as

"You're doing this shit now?"

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-checked-meme-unsc-halo-real-patriot-gif-16275685552391887287

[opaque coyote]

"You were the ones who encouraged me to do this in the first place."

And yeah if Oni was actually concerned about war crimes.

The Spartan Project wouldn't have

Existed

[dusk patrol]

That guy wasn’t from ONI

But either way it doesn’t excuse her

[paper haven]

She should be put on trial, as should pretty much all of ONI

[opaque coyote]

It doesn't

It really fucking doesn't

[dusk patrol]

She happened to end up making the savior of mankind

She’s still a terrible person

And the motherly feelings she has towards the Spartans make it even weirder

[paper haven]

That he became humanity's savior was a complete fluke

[opaque coyote]

Cortana is basically a better version of Halsey in every way.

Ignoring Halo 5

[paper haven]

I don't recognize any halo game after 3

The books were good too. Yes, even contact harvest.

[opaque coyote]

The original advertising campaign for 5 did bring up the interesting idea of having Chief being hunted down by Oni

Which I mean

Come on man that IS interesting

And they decided to

Not do it

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

I try not to think about that

[paper haven]

They almost had some interesting storytelling for a second there. Close one.

[opaque coyote]

Halo Infinite did have some interesting story tidbits

And it's gameplay is fun

[paper haven]

Tidbits.

[opaque coyote]

Problem is that 343 didn't

Support it's multiplayer

And let a golden goose die

They were more interested in

Skins

[paper haven]

Feels like they were forced to make that game to me

[dusk patrol]

Idk

It’s disappointing but it’s how it goes

[paper haven]

Like, they did it but really did not want to

[tough haven]

https://youtu.be/eExoHe4XxvA?si=7sS9VqXV8MsFl7YS

[opaque coyote]

I feel like

The people who made the single player campaign did genuinely care

Even the base story

The people who controlled the multiplayer

Didn't

[paper haven]

Feels pretty tacked on.

[opaque coyote]

The multiplayer was definitely tacked on

I feel like they were working on the singleplayer

And then some 343 exec came in

"Okay we gotta add multiplayer"

"...WHAT THE FU-"

[opaque coyote]

I GET ANOTHER ROLL

[arctic talon]

Not gona lie

Infinites MP is pretty good

I like it more then 4 and 3’s gameplay wise

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the base gameplay is fun as fuck

[arctic talon]

crucify me if you want

[opaque coyote]

Problem is that it took 343 literally

9 MONTHS TO ADD FORGE

[arctic talon]

But Halo 3’s MP feels wack as hell

[opaque coyote]

I think the funniest part about that video is how the Ork has a literal BUCKET of dice

But he only rolls one at a time

[queen laurel]

Yo wolfy

D&d lore question,

Let's say you put a barbarian in a warhammer verse, age of sigmar fantasy 40k you name it, will khorne immediately corrupt them and use their anger to take control of them?

[opaque coyote]

I mean if they're on some random planet

Probably not

If they're on a daemon planet or near any chaosy thingies

Yup

Generally Khorne doesn't immediately 100% corrupt you even if you get super fucking angry while murdering people

Otherwise every SM would probably be Khornate Berserkers

Especially against Xenos

[queen laurel]

Yeah but d&d barbarians quite literally channel rage as a power

So like will they resist or will they get corrupted

[opaque coyote]

Probably a chance type of thing

Especially if they invoke another God's name

Probably wouldn't immediately

But if they continue spamming rage

Definitely

[queen laurel]

Zealot barbarians wild magic and wild totems i think would be very resistant most of the time

Wild heart i forgot the new name

It's the berserkers i think and the normal barbarians that would fall immediately

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think if they worship another god

And have genuine faith

They might be fine

Or Khorne might secretly disguise themselves as said God

But either way, resistant to corruption

Maybe the occasional "Skulls for the Golden Throne" type of shit

But they'll be fine

Just gotta do calming things after battle

Like if they actually have interests in things other than murder

Probably why SMs do a lot of meditation tbh

[queen laurel]

Yeah that makes sense

[opaque coyote]

But if they're the murder hobo type

100% chance

Honestly I just wonder if any Eldar has like

ADHD or something

Like IK their brains work differently compared to humans

But it would be funny to see an Eldar with like severe ADHD

Like they switch paths every fucking YEAR

Because they cannot pay attention

[thick cedar]

Is this a standard interaction between a SoB and a Psyker?

[opaque coyote]

Pretty much

Hell, the SoBs dislike SMs

Because they're technically mutants

[dusk patrol]

Depends on the Sister but yes a lot are like that

[opaque coyote]

But they don't say that to their face because

[dusk patrol]

Some less so

[opaque coyote]

Y'know

[dusk patrol]

A lot are actually very nice and caring they just you know

Will burn a mfer at the stake

[opaque coyote]

Some are genuinely considerate. Like Hestia (yes ik she isn't a sister of Battle but she's part of the ecchelisary) , despite basically insulting you if you have certain personalities, does genuinely care about the people of Atoma

Like there is an interaction where she gets paired with a couple of nobles

And it's basically like this

"Ew these peasantry are disgusting. No wonder they turned to chaos. We should perform a purge!"

"No the mistreatment is exactly WHY they turned to Chaos. Shut the fuck up."

Like she basically spends the entire mission trying to convince the Nobles to

Not consider peasantry as trash

And failing miserably because they're nobles

And she also defends us and states that she genuinely has faith that we will succeed

[storm jungle]

The problem is that "caring" is very surface.

SoB think they are libreating planets from evil when the citizenry hey saved just go straight back to slave labor or worse fates.

they are pretty much a part of the problem they suppress

[opaque coyote]

100%. But that's more about the Imperium being

The Imperium.

[storm jungle]

Yeah so its pretty much meaningless.

[opaque coyote]

Pretty much. But it is genuinely interesting to see.

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

...now I'm imagining a Skaven that's disguised as a SoB

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

"PRAISE-PRAISE THE GREAT HORNED EMPEROR!"

[queen laurel]

What fictional empire is the equivalent of sisyphus

Boy do i have the answer for that

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

I would classify Hestia as a ""good"" person.

Well as ""good"" as the Imperium and Eccleshiarchy allows

[queen laurel]

Look i know you want to kill him but the kill feed will not be good

[opaque coyote]

Basically if she was in a less Grimdark universe. She'd probably be the type to donate to charity and do community service

[opaque coyote]

Nah I'd win

[queen laurel]

No you ain't

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-gif-explode-exploding-gif-27244799

[paper haven]

Rip Bocci

[queen laurel]

Horus versus execution stance veteran with surgical hand cannon revolver

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/firewild-gif-9146252

[opaque coyote]

Btw the Bolter feels really good to use again

[gray umbra]

i was using it last night, i forgot how well it obliterates specials

the extra rounds actually kind of help

[opaque coyote]

Like it feels like I'm actually using a powerful weapon that can literally shoot mini missiles

Instead if

[queen laurel]

I'm currently leveling up the mastery for my powers sword, i already have full mastery on chain sword

[opaque coyote]

Nothing

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I just started replaying

[gray umbra]

their hotfix for the weird aiming shenanigans are nice too

i can actually hit things

[paper haven]

Bolter lore is interesting to me

[opaque coyote]

Sucks that my masteries are kinda low

Since I joined in recently

But hey

Guaranteed blessings are nice

[gray umbra]

if you're sitting on a shitton of gold, you can juist buy and sacrifice greys i think

dockets*

[opaque coyote]

Too bad Brunt's weapons kinda uh

[paper haven]

They go from being super special hollow points to outright grenades depending on the writer

[opaque coyote]

Suck even worse

[queen laurel]

You can only sacrifice the green and up

[opaque coyote]

Like did he fucking make the shipments explode

All of Brunt's weapons just outright suck ass now

[gray umbra]

oh either way

its not so bad to level

[queen laurel]

So if you buy a gray it's to commit on upgrading it

It's a lot better

[dusk patrol]

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the worst part is that Bolters use multiple ammo types

So it also depends on what it's loaded with

[soft thunder]

SM2 getting beakies?

[opaque coyote]

Yup

[dusk patrol]

Seems so

[soft thunder]

good

[dusk patrol]

And Mk7

[paper haven]

I get that part, but they usually imply the ammo being used is the standard fare

[opaque coyote]

I like to call the Mk7 helmets literally just

[gray umbra]

this is where im at with currency but i still just farm exp by doing missions

[opaque coyote]

"ANGERY"

[paper haven]

Look at World Eaters. That's mk7

[opaque coyote]

Yeah.

According to the codex about the Bolters. They're supposed to be more like mini grenades

[soft thunder]

beakies and angry marines, about time

[opaque coyote]

So just go with that

[storm jungle]

I hope this isnt a FS thing where these are gonna stay in the files for like 1-2 years

[dusk patrol]

We’ll get Melta any day now

[storm jungle]

since they did say GW doesnt allow them to use Firstborn gear unless its Veterans

[dusk patrol]

[opaque coyote]

Pain

[dusk patrol]

Soon guys

It’s coming

[opaque coyote]

Aren't Titus and his squad veterans though?

[paper haven]

Just accept plasma gun

[gray umbra]

just titus i think

[dusk patrol]

I think they meant they can’t do literally firstborn bodies tbh

Sternguard and other primaris have a lot of these on so

[opaque coyote]

Cries in lack of MK3

[gray umbra]

surprised the vanguard dont have beaky helmets

since the beak contains sensors or some shit

[storm jungle]

We'll see tbh

[opaque coyote]

Bird up

[storm jungle]

yall got no idea how asinine GW gets with this shit

[gray umbra]

best show on television

[storm jungle]

its very bad lol

[paper haven]

Mk3 is my favorite

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/banban-bird-garten-of-banban-bird-up-oplia-bird-bird-up-gif-27476335

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-bird-up-gif-18059574

[opaque coyote]

GW be like

"NOO YOU CAN'T HAVE FUN!!"

[crystal forum]

the worst show on television

[paper haven]

Modders save us

[arctic talon]

No

[gray umbra]

i think its funny how stupidly particular gw is

[arctic talon]

None of them are vets except Titus

[opaque coyote]

Sad

[arctic talon]

Gadriels a sgt

[crystal forum]

doesn't the black dude have the skull on his helmet

[arctic talon]

No white helmet

Not vet

[paper haven]

We can't get specific armor sets in SM2 but Dawn of war 3 exists

[dusk patrol]

All of them are super young

[gray umbra]

do primaris still employ terminators?

[dusk patrol]

They haven’t even fought chaos before

[gray umbra]

like do they have a dedicated termie

[crystal forum]

yes

[dusk patrol]

Yes

They fit them to their larger size but yeah

[gray umbra]

so gravis is just the weird in between then

[crystal forum]

it was the whole reveal of 10th edition

[arctic talon]

Primaris and marines use the same tactics

[dusk patrol]

Indomitus

[crystal forum]

in fact

[arctic talon]

Lol

[dusk patrol]

Gravis is a little less cumbersome and less training, and also you can slap it onto MkX

[opaque coyote]

Do first borns still exist

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

Like are there just Marines that refuse the Primaris treatment

[gray umbra]

makes sense

[crystal forum]

it's on the front page of the store's 40k section

[dusk patrol]

Gravis is jsut up armored MkX

[storm jungle]

Gravis was very much GW attempting to replace terminator armor before they realised you cannot phase out something as iconic as Terminator armor

[dusk patrol]

Terminator is its own thing

[arctic talon]

Gravis is more so

[storm jungle]

Gravis is pretty toy story, it does the job i guess

[crystal forum]

gravis is cooler than terminator

[dusk patrol]

I don’t generally love it but some models pull it off better

It needs a big backpack

Or some shit

[arctic talon]

Gravis is like mk8 taken to it’s logical conclusion lol

[raven stone]

GW realized Primaris hate is real, but already upscaled the Marines.
They are now trying to do lore damage control by saying Primaris and Firstborn have no size differences.
And just upscale all the iconic things instead.

[dusk patrol]

Like this guy

[crystal forum]

multi melta marine gets a massive backpsck

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

Heavy pulls it off largely

[paper haven]

Tactical dreadnaught armor is a specific thing

[crystal forum]

the fact that it's called dreadnougjt

is so funny

[paper haven]

Gravis can't replace it

[dusk patrol]

It would be cool if we got the Gravis Apothecary

[arctic talon]

They do have size difference in lore

Lol

[gray umbra]

we got helix adepts so why not

[paper haven]

Since dreadnaughts are weapons platforms, terminators are the smaller, more maneuverable version of that

[arctic talon]

Primaris are just a bit taller

GW hasn’t gone back on the primaris thing at all

Imo

[crystal forum]

hot take apocathary biologis is a great model

hot take apocathary biologis is a great model

[raven stone]

On it got mentioned once release, then never mentioned again.

[arctic talon]

Not really a hot take

[crystal forum]

woah

my discord is bugged

[arctic talon]

It’s literally mentioned in the 10e codex

That primaris are slightly larger

[crystal forum]

it doesnt close the message box when i post

[paper haven]

They are a little bit taller

[arctic talon]

And on average built better

[crystal forum]

i can keep spamming the post button

i can keep spamming the post button

i can keep spamming the post button

[paper haven]

It's not an insane difference

[arctic talon]

^

[crystal forum]

this is a funny bug

[gray umbra]

can u bypass the 10 sec chat restriction in general with it

[crystal forum]

prob not

[raven stone]

Well even then I doubt the difference could be THAT huge

[paper haven]

Don't test it

[crystal forum]

i bet it'll leave the moment i tab out anyways

[raven stone]

Otherwise every chapter needs to replace all their Termie armour.

And those things aren’t just boltshells in terms of replacement

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[crystal forum]

test

yup it's gone

[arctic talon]

Terminator armor is generally oversized

[paper haven]

Kinda funny how GW just dreadnaught problemed itself.

[arctic talon]

Already

Or oddly like

Sized

Usually adjustments are needed

[gray umbra]

giant walking metal box guy

[crystal forum]

gravis being regular units is cool unlike termies

[arctic talon]

Before someone puts it on lol

[crystal forum]

gravis guys are just big intercessors

gun focused

[paper haven]

Dreadnaught meaning the battleship design, not the 40k thing

[raven stone]

Bleh. So much for me being able to like the Primaris idea…

lol

[crystal forum]

i really want more melee options for heavy intercessors tho

[arctic talon]

What idea 💀

[opaque coyote]

Also this Fanart goes hard (by Remy PAUL)

[gray umbra]

i thought there were some gravis armored dudes with powerswords

maybe im tripping

[arctic talon]

The gravis captain has it

[dusk patrol]

There is

[paper haven]

Put your damn helmet on.

[opaque coyote]

"MY FACE IS MY SHIELD"

[gray umbra]

yeah!

[opaque coyote]

also tbf one of them does have their helmet on

[crystal forum]

my favorite is the one with the master crafted bolt rifle

just a baller captain

[dusk patrol]

I’ve never seen anyone dislike it tbh

[opaque coyote]

she's either the smartest one or she'll die in 2 seconds because she's fodder

[paper haven]

Why do so many 40k characters have missing eyes?
Because they refuse to wear their damn helmets!

[gray umbra]

they're the harleyboys of 40k

[dusk patrol]

I do like how all the melee marines in the game have head augmetics and a missing eye

[arctic talon]

I’ll have you know calgar was wearing his helmet

[gray umbra]

"i like the wind in my hair as i purge heretics"

[dusk patrol]

Very fitting

[raven stone]

Sadly I still prefer Firstborns. Probably because I still dislike GW using Primaris release as a blatant marketing stunt that was absolutely not necessary.

But I suppose that boat has sailed long ago, so I don’t really begrudge anyone who plays Primaris.

[arctic talon]

When he was fighting the swarmlord

[arctic talon]

I c, that makes sense

Thanks for the explanation

[raven stone]

No prob

[paper haven]

And it probably saved his life.

[dusk patrol]

Don’t forget

[gray umbra]

i think we all agree primaris could have just been a armory refresh

[dusk patrol]

Primaris are coming up on ten years old

[crystal forum]

plasma pistol users having robot arms is also a funny thing that implies a lot

you too can hold onto a live grenade with this simple trick

[raven stone]

Ironically, replacing Firstborns with Primaris in lore has done far more damage to my Childhood nostalgia, compared to Femtodes XD.

[arctic talon]

Custodes didn’t even exist as we know it

Till 8e lol

[raven stone]

Femtodes is, to me, nothing compared to that.

Ye

[gray umbra]

when chairon spins the cosmic fidget spinner in sm2 and gives gadrialthat look

[arctic talon]

So custodes are such a moot thing

[dusk patrol]

It’d be weird if you had child hood nostalgia for stodes

[arctic talon]

Imo

Yeah

You’d be like

Young young

[opaque coyote]

"Thank Emperor I'm part of the Iron Hands. I can just say I got a robot arm to make myself stronger..."

[dusk patrol]

If he was iron hands

His arm would already be augmetic

[paper haven]

Gonna be honest, the primaris are a bigger upset than a female custodes

[dusk patrol]

It was a big change

[opaque coyote]

A newbie that just graduated from aspirant

[dusk patrol]

Largely I think it was a misguided attempt to please the old guard

[crystal forum]

the flesh is weak but so was that stunt brother tinnitus pulled with that plasma pistol

[storm jungle]

Well yeah the Primaris were a massive change

[arctic talon]

Primaris were a huge change

Lol

[storm jungle]

Custodes are literally Custodes

[arctic talon]

8e fundamentally

Was a like

Massive change

[dusk patrol]

Should have just ripped the bandaid off

And made new marines

But whatever

[storm jungle]

^

[crystal forum]

🙀

[storm jungle]

its still super lame

[dusk patrol]

Idc much, I don’t mind it and it doesn’t ruin anything for me

[storm jungle]

nobody would give a shit but i get why they did it

you gotta rebrand

[dusk patrol]

They’ve done some interesting stuff with it

[opaque coyote]

you literally cannot tell anyways. You can just grab a bunch of custodes and say

[crystal forum]

such controversial statements dilara

[opaque coyote]

"All of them are women"

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

[dusk patrol]

Only thing I don’t like is the names and some of the vehicles largely

[storm jungle]

It is to illiterate people believe me

[storm jungle]

Primaris trying to be UNSC is bad yeah

vehicles with no tracks is gay btw

[dusk patrol]

It’s not to anyone who was in the fandom back then

It was a big deal

[paper haven]

Nah because they need boob armor

[dusk patrol]

And still is

[gray umbra]

the 4th gen spartans of 40k

[paper haven]

That's how you can tell

[storm jungle]

lmao

[arctic talon]

Primaris have drip now

Some primaris rather

[dusk patrol]

People will forget about femstodes by next year

Primaris is still a big thing

Almost ten years later

[crystal forum]

do you think custodes have boob armor that acts as shot trap prevention like mark 8 had

[opaque coyote]

Except the like

3 people who hate women

[storm jungle]

Die

[paper haven]

Sooner if GW does something else to make people angry

[storm jungle]

40k fans always get mad at shit

[crystal forum]

im going to model the ballistics of boob armour and you cant stop me

[raven stone]

You know what the most insane take on Femtodes opposition I heard is?
Apparently. Right.
Apparently.
Some nutters.
Believe having female Custodes in lore…would encourage more trans-women to claim they are women, due to muscle mass.
No, don’t ask me how that logic works, I have no karking clue either…

[dusk patrol]

Nah theyll just get upset cause a ultramarine is black again or whatever

[storm jungle]

Its basically nothing beyond guys not wanting to see women in power armor yeah.

[paper haven]

Which is lore accurate. They're just really dedicated to the setting.

[storm jungle]

and just usual fandom homophobia and sexism

its whatever

[arctic talon]

“I don’t know a lot about lore but the ultramarines are too diverse”

[opaque coyote]

what

[gray umbra]

i think you are trying to apply logic to mental gymnastics

[crystal forum]

im mad at how hungry i am

[gray umbra]

it dont work

[arctic talon]

Funniest fucking quote

[opaque coyote]

"The women are women!!!!"

[crystal forum]

they should get mad at these sorts of sthings

[arctic talon]

I’ve heard recently

Lol

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

“All that art depicting black Catachan, Cadians, and Marines from the 90s doesn’t count.”

[paper haven]

Realistically, a female custodes is way more likely than a female space marine

[arctic talon]

“Why is the guard captain a woman and Indian”

💀

Okay I’m done

[paper haven]

Custodes are custom made

[opaque coyote]

Probably because the Emperor's seed only applies to men

[storm jungle]

It wasnt that numerous

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

Tfw you learn Cadia was a fucking planet

[storm jungle]

It existed but uh

well and men

[arctic talon]

I like the way she says “WRETCHED BEASTS”

[storm jungle]

lol

[dusk patrol]

It doesn’t matter, it still exists

[crystal forum]

i love men

[paper haven]

Turns out planets have a diverse range of people

[arctic talon]

Good to hear

[storm jungle]

Ikr

[raven stone]

It is sad that some people truly believe IoM is only really White People Only Humanity.
Not Actually Mixed Race Humanity…

[dusk patrol]

Planet of hats mfers

[storm jungle]

but yeah people were basically used to that image

now the moment we ge ta black marine

people bitch and whine

"IM NOT RACIST"

"I JUST RESPECT LORE"

[gray umbra]

"salamander why do u not wear the colors of your chapter"

[storm jungle]

"HE ORCHESTRATED, JIMMY DID ALL THIS"

[arctic talon]

Why’d they give the black black templar sword breathern

[dusk patrol]

The real issue anyways is they’re mostly British

[arctic talon]

The worst cut

Ever

[dusk patrol]

And we need to fix that

[storm jungle]

Dont tell them the Emperor is not white

and has bronze skin

or can literally look like anything he wants

[gray umbra]

and is from ancient turkey

supposedly

[arctic talon]

He’s Anatolian 🤓

[opaque coyote]

Wasn't he a woman for a while?

[arctic talon]

Prolly

[crystal forum]

emperor being more ancient than all of western civilization 🙀

[storm jungle]

Nah

but he says he could be a woman if he wants to

a "warrior queen" on quote

[dusk patrol]

I do like the memes of Titus asking his squad mates why salamanders and white scars have joined the ultramarines though

Captain America Titus

[gray umbra]

i read something about how a lot of what people see the emperor as is a projection

[storm jungle]

White guy humor moment

[paper haven]

Nobody mention that the race and culture differences apply to abhumans too

[crystal forum]

where's my femgryns

[opaque coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_H_5vnrIpw

[dusk patrol]

They exist

We just don’t have art

[raven stone]

“No but you see he invented Roman Empires and Greek Empire so he must be White because that created the West. Why do you think Impeirum resembles our worthy progenitor civilisations so much”
/shitpost.

[arctic talon]

https://youtu.be/4_4Eb4UJIBY?si=IVOoBpEsf0cQ4jYj

[opaque coyote]

it's literally just adding titties to the current ogyrn model

and longer hair

[paper haven]

I had an aneurysm reading this

[opaque coyote]

[opaque coyote]

yeah because all greek people are white

[arctic talon]

He didn’t invent the Roman Empire as far as we know

[opaque coyote]

totally...

...

totally

[raven stone]

A key point of Alpha Legionnaire warfare: knowing how your foe thinks without becoming them.

[paper haven]

Neither Greek, nor Roman would would be considered white

[raven stone]

Shhh you will break their poor skulls

[arctic talon]

He was Alexander the Great

And uh

He was at the tower of babel

[raven stone]

Same, this will also break their poor skulls. That, and…
“Duuuhhh Greeks and Italians are White!”

[paper haven]

Sometimes they get to far into the mask and forget

[opaque coyote]

I mean they were all Gay as fuck so he definitely did

[raven stone]

Why do you think I mock them here XD

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

[paper haven]

Gay but also homophobic

Ancient cultures were weird

[opaque coyote]

"You see I can pinpoint the exact moment the Emperor started existing. And that's when Gay people increas-"

[arctic talon]

Almost like cultures change

[raven stone]

It’s mental gymnastics and brutally calculated pragmatism. Brotherhoods of war focused on the killing of enemies is absolutely A-OK, but no sexy times allowed in the army.

[arctic talon]

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the Greeks and Roman were basically "Top and Bottom"

Basically if you were a bottom, you were a loser

Also why they hated women

[paper haven]

If dominant, then manly. Ergo: Not gay

[arctic talon]

Drukhari reference /j

[paper haven]

Truly, they were the pioneers of western thought

[raven stone]

It’s also pragmatically and brutally “meritocratic”; if you kill enough enemies of the brotherhood suddenly you are top again.

[arctic talon]

Ngl if Owlcat made Maharazi a woman

How much harder would they get simped for

LOL

[near wasp]

Is maharazi the delder

[gray umbra]

yeah

marazhai is the homie

[raven stone]

Don’t go there, people simp bad enough for the dismissive Eldar sniper chick.

[opaque coyote]

||I already simp for hi-||

[gray umbra]

you mean..yrliet my beloved?

[paper haven]

Way harder. I already admitted that I would have gone for Maharazi if he was a woman

[arctic talon]

I don’t simp for him but I like him

He’s funny

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-19410756

[arctic talon]

• his romance is hilarious

[raven stone]

(To which I say, TEH FOOLS. Cassia all the way, Navigator mutant be damned.)

[dusk patrol]

People simp for the SoB who won’t even enter a relationship with you

[opaque coyote]

The Eldar sniper chick is basically an Asexual relationship tbh

[arctic talon]

This is true

[dusk patrol]

Thank fuck for that

[gray umbra]

Argenta is cool as fuck

[paper haven]

He's a giant red flag and his romance is: exactly what you expect it to be

[raven stone]

In story, accurately written to be so. But do you think that has ever stopped people…

[gray umbra]

mostly because i like to listen her laugh when i set her on enemies with her flamer

[opaque coyote]

People want the most what they can't have.

[dusk patrol]

The amount of whining because people couldn’t fuck the SoB was hilarious

[arctic talon]

Wdym, you don’t want to brand him and make him your bottom?

[raven stone]

I suspect the upcoming Assassin is to make up for that.

[gray umbra]

ok

[arctic talon]

Fun fact Abelard is disappointed if you get branded, but likes it if you brand Maharazi

[dusk patrol]

It’s always out

[arctic talon]

[paper haven]

Not my type.

[dusk patrol]

But probably

[gray umbra]

does anyone else simp for abelard

[near wasp]

I need to play rouge trader again

[dusk patrol]

Probably

I can’t imagine anyone in that game is safe

[gray umbra]

"introduce me"

[paper haven]

Abelard is the best supporting character ever

[raven stone]

Same. Haven’t even finished my first play through…though I am waiting for the assassin content as well.

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbf the naked meditation is a bit sus. But besides that
Yeah it's a romantic but asexual relationship

[near wasp]

I've barely beaten aroura

[arctic talon]

I AM AURORA

[storm jungle]

Hes a silver fox

[arctic talon]

HERALD OF THE FINAL DAWN

[storm jungle]

of course they simp for him lol

[gray umbra]

total dad

[dusk patrol]

People will probably simp for the guy who mans the wheel

[raven stone]

There are gals (and the gay guys I suppose) who simp for Heinrix

[paper haven]

There's one guy in the art channel who does nothing but show his character and her being very physical

[gray umbra]

i really enjoyed rt despite how busted blitz builds were on release

[arctic talon]

Heinrix is such a dork lol

In his romance

[gray umbra]

it was kind of fun just nuking everything with a hellgun

[near wasp]

I notice how nobody mentioned cassia

[arctic talon]

Cassia is great

[gray umbra]

i romanced cassia my first playthrough

[arctic talon]

But she’s like

[paper haven]

My face when a fucking word bearer walks out and you gotta fight him

[arctic talon]

Very much generic crpg romance

[gray umbra]

sheltered privilege noblelady

[raven stone]

Oi I mentioned her. And yes I would romance her, Navigator lineage be damned.

[opaque coyote]

Minus the Tongue incident

[arctic talon]

That’s not from her romance

That’s just cassia

[dusk patrol]

Not being able to romance Ulfar or even try is the real crime

[opaque coyote]

"What do you mean they need it to talk???"

[paper haven]

We don't talk about that

[gray umbra]

based

[arctic talon]

Let me try to rizz him up

Lol

[gray umbra]

"i told this guy to go kill himself and he did it"

[storm jungle]

id have made it so like

[gray umbra]

"damn thats craaaaaazy"

[storm jungle]

he entertains the idea because space wolf

but goes

[near wasp]

I mean there's a chance y'all's kid might still be a navigator right

[storm jungle]

"Nah you couldnt handle me, sorry"

and thats it lol

[paper haven]

Personally, Jae is my first romance option.

[crystal forum]

you can't handle this potion

[near wasp]

I mean you couldn't xD

[storm jungle]

you can't handle the beard

[near wasp]

Only a fenrisian could

[gray umbra]

i was just trying to be friends with yrliet

and it became some platonic relationship

[arctic talon]

Yirlet’s romance triggers so easily

[crystal forum]

i'd still try

[arctic talon]

Lol

[raven stone]

Cassia romance is also low key funny.
Like…the first romance on the agriculture planet takes place ||with a CORPSE NEXT TO YOU TWO THAT YOU CAN EXAMINE||

[paper haven]

Platonic means friends

[crystal forum]

worth the severe blunt force trauma

[gray umbra]

i came in her mind

in more waays than one

[arctic talon]

Ngl the bath stuff is so funny

[opaque coyote]

IK he's a Space Wolf, but even a lot of Space Wolves are kinda turbo virgins (cause SMs)

So imagine trying to do some hints only for him to not notice because SM syndrome
And then you end up just saying "DO YOU WANT TO DATE"

And then he just says "No"

[arctic talon]

Argenta forcing you to do water aerobics is funny as shit

[raven stone]

I actually think it does show she is somewhat naive, in that regard.
“OMG a brutish Monkeigh understands how Aeldari think they must be different!!!”

[dusk patrol]

I like the idea of there being a very long drawn out “romance” which is entirely one sided and doesn’t really go anywhere

And it’s jsut him humoring you cause it’s funny

[gray umbra]

can you romance the csm

[opaque coyote]

I honestly think it would be interesting if it was more like a "Friends with benefits" type of thing

[paper haven]

Even better, he has no idea it's romantic

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/zangief-street-fighter-sf6-super-gif-7611353548074306123

Most gentle time with ulfar in bed

/j

[gray umbra]

"there are no wolves on fenris"

[near wasp]

Oh my dream

[paper haven]

Like at the very end you ask about marriage and he's like: What?

[dusk patrol]

Space wolves are generally a little more aware of sexuality and human attraction

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-in-love-heart-beating-beautiful-crush-gif-24787798

[dusk patrol]

Since they’re taken much older and likely have had sex prior

[arctic talon]

Lukas

[paper haven]

Yeah but only a little

[dusk patrol]

Since they’re taken from basically the beefiest best warriors on Fenris

[near wasp]

Yeah doesn't Lukas have kin xD

[opaque coyote]

Like it's a sexual relationship, but it's clear that he doesn't actually feel any serious romantic feelings towards you