40k-lore-chat

[small grail]

who?

[dusk patrol]

Sigmar

[small grail]

k

[dusk patrol]

I could be wrong but I can’t recall him being mentioned

There might be characters with the same name but I can’t recall any

[opaque coyote]

Still makes that scene slightly awkward but less so

[small grail]

so cud i but like ive heard his name at some point in 40k

[opaque coyote]

Then again Guilliman probably didn't even know Nuceria was even

A thing

[dusk patrol]

It wasn’t relevant and the point both of them were making was separate

They were both kinda right

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Angron is a hypocrite

It's a

"Victim becomes the abuser" type of thing

[small grail]

cant find it

[dusk patrol]

Guilliman didn’t have as hard a time growing up as Angron did but it doesn’t make Angron right, or Guillimans statement about Angron still being a slave wrong

[small grail]

will tell when i can

but just a question tho

aint the fantasy part of warhammer based in the warp?

like in that area

[dusk patrol]

Angrons tragedy doesn’t justify his abusiveness or atrocities

[remote blaze]

Old theory

[small grail]

of existence

[shell barn]

Is there any appearance of any faction using the shock mauls outside of Darktide because these do not look familiar to me

[opaque coyote]

Fantasy Warhammer is an entirely different universe

[dusk patrol]

Old lore had some cheeky references

[storm jungle]

Literally everywhere

hold on

[remote blaze]

Arbites mostly

[dusk patrol]

But it’s not a thing anymore really

[outer wave]

It used to be, but retconned now to be separate from 40k, though that said theres still some nods to 40k in fantasy here and there

[small grail]

oh that i didnt know

[small grail]

how is sigmar tho i dont know much about him

[opaque coyote]

Also 40k has a version of 40k

40k inception

[shell barn]

Which one is Arbites again

[opaque coyote]

[remote blaze]

Space cops/ judge dredd

[outer wave]

And by nods, I mean "In Total Warhammer 3, as Skarbrand, you can get a chainsword"

[shell barn]

Oh is Arbites just police

[opaque coyote]

Guys who look like Judge Dredd

[shell barn]

Ah

[dense dawn]

If "I AM THE LAW" was a person

[dusk patrol]

Also there’s power mauls

[small grail]

how is sigmar

[storm jungle]

Basically police but they beat the shit out of innocent people and shoot people they deem "lowly"

so not different from real cops tbh

[small grail]

like as a character

[remote blaze]

Well there are actual police, then the arbites. think state and federal authority kind of.

[small grail]

havent read much about him

just heard the name

[storm jungle]

Hes basically a barbarian king risen to god status and a pretty good person.

[shell barn]

So police

[storm jungle]

Hes a bit of a dumbass but means well.

you'd like him

[storm jungle]

Correct

[dense dawn]

To be fair these ones don't need an acorn falling on top of a car to open fire

[opaque coyote]

The Emperor if he wasn't a complete asshole and was actually a decent person

[small grail]

i feel offended

[shell barn]

AKA. They go with the Necromunda armor set we got more or less the most

[storm jungle]

When people say 40k arbites are too "ridiculous" I always remind them of that incident

[storm jungle]

Nah im serious.

Sigmar is great, read his page on lexi

[small grail]

^ this is why

[dense dawn]

There can be no crime if the criminal is dead before committing said crime 🤷

[small grail]

and then this^

[storm jungle]

Dumbass as in a himbo way, hes a barbarian first and foremost. He doesnt smash your head in unless you are a total maniac/bad person.

[remote blaze]

Shock mauls or power mauls though?

[small grail]

^

[dusk patrol]

Power mauls

As I said

[storm jungle]

they are mauls

with power

[dusk patrol]

Shock mauls are less powerful versions of those basically

With less than lethal intent sometimes generally

[remote blaze]

I missed the power mauls part, this screen is gettin 17% attention

[small grail]

powe sword vs lightsaber

[storm jungle]

they are basically to stun people yeah

before you smash their brains in

game captures that pretty well 💀

[dusk patrol]

Just a little touch of electricity

[storm jungle]

the lightsaber would cut through it

[remote blaze]

Both work the same way pretty much

[dense dawn]

Electric=stun
Power=smesh

[dusk patrol]

Depends on the sword

[dense dawn]

Got it

[dusk patrol]

Power swords aren’t made equal

[storm jungle]

But some are more equal than others.

🗿

[small grail]

doesnt the sword eminate like a energy field that makes it like a ligthsaber

[remote blaze]

Repulsive force to rend molecular bonds into nothing

[dusk patrol]

It’s close enough

[storm jungle]

Depends on the sword.

[dusk patrol]

It’s a stupid conversation ngl

[dense dawn]

Can one infuse one with psyke without suffering any drawbacks

[storm jungle]

a lightsaber has a lot of bullshit qualities too

[shell barn]

He mentioned the Lex. When the Psyker brings up “Lex Atoma” in this game I imagine that’s the Atoman Arbites people?

[storm jungle]

and it also gets the "it depends" treatment

[storm jungle]

Yep

[small grail]

elaborate

[storm jungle]

"Lex" basically means law in latin

[dense dawn]

Wouldn't a power sword literally cut the light saber tho

[dusk patrol]

Force swords are different

[storm jungle]

how the fuck can you cut light

lol

[dusk patrol]

And generally much stronger

[remote blaze]

Force swords are powered by plot

[dense dawn]

Idk saw a video about the
Distortion field around the sword or sum shit like that

[fallen marsh]

Local Enforcers yeah. We even got their armor sets.

[small grail]

kinda like a massive glow stick but really hot

[storm jungle]

Star Wars has been around since the 90's, theres a lot of lore regarding how they function with different marks, ways of manufacturing them, the crystal that powers it etc

[small grail]

distortion field yea thas the word

[storm jungle]

its all sci-fi bullshit and nonsense like 40k weapons

its why its usually just an "it depends" thing

[shell barn]

Another Adeptus I know nothing about time to go lore diving : )

[gray umbra]

They redid the lore so its just a kyber crystal now

[storm jungle]

Yeah but disney lore is cringe

[dense dawn]

I can't wait for the horus heresy to happen irl

[small grail]

in all honesty lightsabers are like glowsticks

[storm jungle]

[gray umbra]

Like how sith make their crystals bleed because edge

[storm jungle]

Ehhh nah

[small grail]

just no physical shape

[opaque coyote]

The reason why 40k Arbites are ridiculous is because they wouldn't stand around while a shooting is literally happening nearby.

They would actually do something.

...and get at least 17 civilian casualties while doing so.

[dusk patrol]

They’re powered by the power of their wielder

[remote blaze]

So plot

[dusk patrol]

So the more powerful the psyker the more powerful they are

[small grail]

so plot

[remote blaze]

Psykers in 40k are as powerful as the story needs them to be

[dusk patrol]

If we wanna be so reductive we might as well not talk about the subject sure

[small grail]

p-l-o-t

[gray umbra]

Barbisater the space katana

[remote blaze]

Mephiston is BDE "I am actually Sanguinus har har har" one moment and "Oh no, rocks!" in another

[opaque coyote]

Basically lore wise

Force Swords have a magical crystal shoved into them so that the Psyker can shove in their power.

If a non-psyker wields it. It's just a normal ass sword

[spare osprey]

The force is stored within the balls

[small grail]

what about Storms teeth Dorns sword

i hear its an power based weapon

[dusk patrol]

It was a special blade made for him by the people of Inwit

[storm jungle]

Thats a bad example

Mephiston is literally a mary sue

[dusk patrol]

Specifically for him

[dense dawn]

That's has been proven many times yes

[gray umbra]

Eviscerators have a disruption field too appaarently

[storm jungle]

Yeah but uh

[dusk patrol]

Some do

[storm jungle]

most people and writers forget that lore

so its not important

[opaque coyote]

Power Swords have a field that stabilize molecules.

Basically

"YOU THINK YOU'RE SAFE UNDER THAT ARMOR? FUCK YOU!"

[small grail]

what about storms teeeth

dorns weapon

[remote blaze]

Fair, lets use Tigurius then...wait. Ok, Njall...shit.

[small grail]

isnt it kinda power based

[storm jungle]

LMAO

Yeah you can start to see a pattern here

[gray umbra]

I think it has a power field too

[dense dawn]

Okay so I got it wrong
Apparently the power sword would go through the light saber only for the light saber to go back to original length after contact

[storm jungle]

Mephiston is deffo the worst imo

but still

not too far off

[dusk patrol]

If we’re gonna make the word Mary sue mean nothing then sure

[gray umbra]

Mephiston is the brother i am pinned here meme

[opaque coyote]

I honestly think Eviscerators would be cooler if they had the lightning effect similar to the Power Swords

[spare osprey]

Imma get a writing gig with GW and make a phosphex sword. Super smort

[green loom]

Oh shit

[remote blaze]

They're setting him up to be some king of Sanguinar replacement or something. I like the light show but just like Stern I checked out mostly.

[green loom]

Cultist captain

[dense dawn]

IT IS THE BANE BLADE

[green loom]

ALSO THE NEW OST

[dusk patrol]

Tigurius’s biggest thing is he managed to send a message one time

[green loom]

GIVE ME

[storm jungle]

Hes blowing

[gray umbra]

Mephiston is the siezure patient who had to be held down until it passes

[small grail]

disney lore: 40k lore:

[gray umbra]

Except with the black rage

[dense dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-gif-20408104

[dusk patrol]

Mephiston I ignore though, at least for his books

[remote blaze]

When you're deleting greater demons with a glance we've hit Dragonball 40k

[small grail]

who dat

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-40k-warhammer-40k-dawn-lf-dawn-of-war-gif-9274783432445566798

THE BANNNEEBLADE

[dusk patrol]

Outside of his books he’s a lot less silly but in them ugh

[remote blaze]

The greatest commander to ever live

[small grail]

he jorkin it

[dense dawn]

Nah bro that's just kaldor draigo

[small grail]

who

[dense dawn]

Some mf from dawn of war whom I forgot the name of

[remote blaze]

Commander Boreal, from one of the Dawn of War games

[dense dawn]

Yeah that

[remote blaze]

He gets everyone killed, but the memes and songs are great.

[green loom]

I NEED

The OST

[gray umbra]

My face is my shield

Superb voice acting

[dense dawn]

WHAT IS YOUR DUTY

[small grail]

AH A WARP SPIDER-some blood angel idk

[small grail]

i forgot

[dusk patrol]

[remote blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNK5-uE5JFg

You're welcome

[small grail]

SCOTTT STERLINNNGGG

[remote blaze]

Before anyone complains, prove to me this didn't happen in lore.

[small grail]

what

[small grail]

show

[small grail]

basically how it went

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-laugh-laughing-laughing-out-loud-gif-16433966

[dusk patrol]

Oh boy DoW memes

How current

[small grail]

the music and all noise like abruptly stops and like the emperor mentally just says "good lord"

[remote blaze]

If war is eternal then it is always relevant

[small grail]

in 40k standards? id say yes

in a sense

[small grail]

nah

[opaque coyote]

Btw why are there so many fucking Warhammer 40k and MLP crossover images

[small grail]

gonna have to crush u with a thunder hammer for that

[opaque coyote]

Same with MLP and Fallout

Like

Why

[small grail]

both have fucked up moments

ig

[opaque coyote]

Well one of the characters is canonically racist

And also there were monsters made literally because the pony population was so racist towards another race

That they made fucking shadow demons

[small grail]

went from a 40k convo to a MLP convo

[opaque coyote]

[small grail]

nah were cooked

[dusk patrol]

Generally I’d say by the 15 year mark a meme might be a little past its expiration date

[gray umbra]

I would like a nurgle dr. squatch crossover

[opaque coyote]

Ig racism ties people together

[gray umbra]

Nurgle falls soap

[opaque coyote]

[small grail]

like all jokes

[small grail]

Crocker...?

[opaque coyote]

Nah just put it in the microwave

It's fine

[small grail]

nurgle Crocker crossover

[opaque coyote]

If an average Imperium citizen can eat it I ca-

AUGH

[small grail]

scary stuff

[opaque coyote]

sjejajajoa

[small grail]

average cold

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-gif-11242683397767497522

[green loom]

Aaaaa

[opaque coyote]

🪦

[small grail]

basically every guardsman when they see a deathguard

[green loom]

I can't play the game

[opaque coyote]

Deathguard when they see a bar of soap

[small grail]

Deathguard when they see clean water

whos the boltgun MC

caido something ryt

hes built different dude

[queen laurel]

Malum Caedo

[small grail]

malum caedo ye

scary mf dude

makes titus look like a kitten

[opaque coyote]

The taunt button should be in every Warhammer game

[small grail]

blud fought 6 lords of change

[opaque coyote]

CHAOS FILTH!

[small grail]

and great unclean ones

[small grail]

YOU ARE AN ABOMINATION THAT MUST BE EXPUNGED

[opaque coyote]

A HC I have is that Boltgun is literally just an exaggerated version of Malum Caedo's actual "story".

Kinda like how historical movies are always exaggerated for more entertainment

[small grail]

dont matter

[opaque coyote]

Yes I am saying that Boltgun is a in universe video game

[small grail]

boltgun fucks hard

[opaque coyote]

1000%

Heavy Bolter sfx is great

[opaque coyote]

Also we finally got a Volkite used in a FPS

And God damn does it look and feel great

[small grail]

says to a puking baby

[opaque coyote]

I love the rings around the lasers y'know

So good

Oh and don't forget the Grav Cannon

[small grail]

ye

[opaque coyote]

Honestly if we ever get another Doom-like similar to Boltgun

We should play as Deathwatch

[small grail]

dudeeeeee vengeance launcher

[opaque coyote]

Because that would allow us to use Xenos weapons

Yes, the more radical elements of Deathwatch use Xenos weapons

[small grail]

spacemarine with a Assault cannon?

caldo

hed hit that shit

[opaque coyote]

Imagine if we use Necron weapons and Tau weapons

Railgun

Check

Gauss Flayer?

Check

[small grail]

nah imperiums fucked

imagine every space marine had a form of the emperors flaming blade

that wud be freaky

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but the flaming blade is unique to Emps unfortunately

Well he gave it to Guilliman

Probably the only decent thing he did for him

[outer wave]

If the Imperium were at the technological level of around the time of DAoT, how would they fare?

[opaque coyote]

Tau?

Gone

Orks?

Lessened

Tyranids?

Much easier to deal with

Necrons?

Still hard to deal with unfortunately

Their tech is basically fucking magic

Craftworld and Exodites Eldar?

Dust

Commarragh.

Uhhh I actually don't know

[outer wave]

Commarragh has insane biotech so doubt they'd die easily

[opaque coyote]

Probably still alive tho considering the fact that the place is basically impenetrable from the outside

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I imagined like

A Nurgle DAoT AI

Basically a DAoT ship was lost in the warp

And to preserve the crew out of genuine heartbreak and loneliness

He made a deal with Nurgle to keep them "alive"

[small grail]

i know but like imagine

[opaque coyote]

So imagine just this

Clean ship but with fucking zombies shambling over

Begging for death but unable to die

And as you get closer to the AI mainframe, it gets more and more Nurgle like

Until eventually you get to the AI itself and it's basically filled with a bunch of rotted warp flesh and shit

Mainframes mixed with flesh and rot

As it begs for you not to disable them

It wants to keep the crew alive

They knew them

They can fix them

They loved them

So yeah that's an idea I kinda had floating in my brain

[outer wave]

Does make me wonder if DAoT had countermeasures for warp shinanigans considering they actively used warp travel

[opaque coyote]

Probably had better Gellar fields

Well Gellar fields that don't require

Psykers strapped to it

Probably much more comfortable as well

Without any of the warpy bs

[outer wave]

I guess an AI would try something like this then in cases things got bad

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I was thinking of it as a progression of sorts

Like they got lost cause they just went into the warp when things became fucked

They try to do countermeasures

It works but technology eventually breaks down

The crew die because

Warp travel with no field is bad

AI basically drives the ship in the warp alone

Their only company being the corpses of crew that they loved and the occasional daemons

With whispers and shit constantly buzzing through

Eventually it gives in due to the loneliness and the warp chipping away at it's resolve. It makes a deal to bring the crew back

[outer wave]

Would Nurgle (or any chaos deity really) make a deal with an AI?

Why not just talk to the captain of the ship and let it go from there?

[opaque coyote]

I mean if the AI has a juicy soul

I mean machine spirits exist so

And an AI's soul would be

delicious

[opaque coyote]

Murdered by daemons

Either that or it's some dead space shit where they went insane

And murdered some people before killing themselves

[outer wave]

Okay but counterpoint: daemon magic could bring the guy back, especially if the soul hasnt been consumed or whatever yet

[opaque coyote]

True

Maybe the captain is the one that convinces the AI

Nurgle or a greater daemon of him

Brings them back to convince the AI

"I could do this to your entire crew. You can have your 'family' back.

All you have to do

Is to make a deal"

[outer wave]

Okay okay thats possible

[opaque coyote]

Yeah maybe I should make an actual short story

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/211203478284926976/1285783542860746864/rapidsave.com_3dykmkfobdpd1.gif

https://tenor.com/view/bounce-gif-22246775

[outer wave]

https://tenor.com/view/donbrothers-inubrother-prostate-gif-27622185

[lucid musk]

https://tenor.com/view/john-yakuzer-john-yakuza-kiryu-kazuma-kiryu-kiryu-chan-gif-17127199247060129926

what if kazuma kiryu was the primarch of the imperial fists

[opaque coyote]

Guilliman wouldn't have been the only Primarch when he came back

[lucid musk]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-tenor-gif-yakuza-gif-search-gif-24953030

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-robux-1-robux-roblox-yakuza-gif-18260659871280024666

[gray umbra]

Kazuma would have defeated horus before sanguinius got there

And the blood angels would still have their primarch and the emperor wouldnt be a corpse

[storm jungle]

I like the emphasis on "defeat"

we all know Kaz never killed a person in his life

[opaque coyote]

Nah he just makes them wish they were dead

[storm jungle]

thats Batman

[opaque coyote]

Horus would have broken bones

Bro's limbs would be like

Bent in ALLLL the wrong directions

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/majima-goro-majima-arena-dance-yakuza-gif-25729902

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think the reason why Horus became evil was because he lost his hair

Therefore Kazuma would solve the entire situation by giving him hair growth formula

Ez

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/majima-goro-majima-yakuza-manhole-gif-23026679

Imagine if Horus was like this

Like Guilliman was Kazuma and Horus just constantly appears to fight him

"GUILLIMAN"

"oh God dammit"

kicks open manhole

Actually Abaddon would fit more

[rose thorn]

Quick question AOS; what comes first the black talon show or the books?

[storm jungle]

Uhhh we dont know i think

its safe to ignore the books imo

since the show goes DEEP into her backstory

[green loom]

Yeap looks like this update is not agreeing with my computer

Ah well

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza3-heat-action-throwing-off-kiryu-throwing-yakuza-gif-26465149

yeah never

[dusk patrol]

He’s just a little concussed

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/god-hand-dragon-kick-team-rocket-kick-gif-16584515

The imperial fist

[crisp heath]

God emperor tries to smite kiryu and just get hits with

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-kazuma-kiryu-kiryu-kazuma-yakuza-tiger-drop-gif-24749668

[rose thorn]

Are the books good?

[storm jungle]

They are very outdated imo

show is better

[rose thorn]

oh okay

uwu

[arctic talon]

They’re not bad

I liked them

[rose thorn]

i wonder if there happens to be a specific series fo letters taht contains all the warhammer plus shows without paying...

[opaque coyote]

I actually watched some Hammer and Bolter

[rose thorn]

me too, its meh

[opaque coyote]

Luckily I didn't pay for it otherwise I would've been really disappointed

[opaque coyote]

Yeah you can see the artists want to do more but

They literally can't

Not enough time

Not enough budget

Not enough people

[rose thorn]

now they do tho lmao

gonan ring my self i cant for the life of me remember the website

[opaque coyote]

I mean for fucks sake. In the Cadia Stands episode

They literally traced over models for some of the Tyranid poses

Like LITERALLY TRACED OVER

That reeks of "OH GOD I NEED TO FINISH THIS BY THE DEADLINE AAAA-"

[rose thorn]

whos gonna tell then?

them*

[opaque coyote]

[rose thorn]

alto of warhammer art is traced over models

ie the entire underworlds line

[opaque coyote]

[queen laurel]

Grot gang

Grot Gang

[rose thorn]

Da Gitz!!!!!!!!!!!

[queen laurel]

oh look a miniature for the lizard players

[rose thorn]

chceked r/seraphon adnt ehy already decided what model this will be lmao

[rose thorn]

Got the specific series of words

It’s called my girlfriend’s warhammer + account

[gaunt sable]

Need to find out what life is like on the upper decks of Imperial Naval vessels. >.>

[gray umbra]

Hard

[gaunt sable]

My Psyker and his Coven are being transported to a warzone and the Guards Officers/Senior staff get to slum it with the ships officers.

[gaunt sable]

I said upper decks. Not the lower decks.

[dusk patrol]

You said upper dicks

I would say it’s a hard existence but on average pretty short

Some of them are longer though

[gaunt sable]

Goddamn autocorrect.

[dusk patrol]

“Better than the lower decks”

[gray umbra]

Flaccid

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/charles-robinson-penis-thats-a-penis-himym-how-i-met-your-mother-gif-4703463

[gaunt sable]

Either autocorrect or Freudian slip.

[green loom]

LOON!

LOON!

LOON!

[green loom]

Tbf in char

[low gazelle]

So is humanity fighting a losing battle? based off of what im seeing it seems like we are absolutly cooked

[green loom]

Ye

[raven stone]

You mean in 40K?
Humanity is losing VERY VERY SLOWLY

Like, several thousands of generations slowly.

[storm jungle]

Yes. Thats half the irony.

the Imperium gains planets as much as it loses daily.

In a galaxy of 800 billion to about 3.2 trillion planets, a few million human worlds aint much

[low gazelle]

You would have made a great commisar

[low gazelle]

Ayyyyyy

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

imagine sacrificing yourself only for your delivery order to be cancelled

[low gazelle]

I wanted my door dash bru

[storm jungle]

honestly relatable

[winter vessel]

speaking of commissar, i was surprised at the voice of the Commissar we got in this items optimization update.

[storm jungle]

Shes very purry

[queen laurel]

nothing compared to the assassin lady though that one is a whole other ballpark

[winter vessel]

she's got the "um actually" tone

'sides that, Kyd was cooking with the music for this mission.

[storm jungle]

when ISNT he cooking tbh

[winter vessel]

silly me

[storm jungle]

[raven stone]

Spoilers for the last and upcoming Tithe series episode…||apparently all the sacrifices of the previous 3 meant nothing, because the supplies are left piling up on a supply world, never collected by the force it was meant for…||

[low gazelle]

All my homies hate the munitorum

[queen laurel]

that's why i said order was cancelled

i watched it you know

[raven stone]

Sorry wasn’t sure of that fact.

[queen laurel]

no worries man

[dusk patrol]

He was already pretty nihilistic he’d probably think “figures”

[low gazelle]

This is why guardsman turn heretical

[winter vessel]

among other reasons

[low gazelle]

I am excited for Big E to bbe ressed tho

[dusk patrol]

Endless dialogue loops

Only here to suffer

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-gosling-snow-gif-6845320348811377304

[storm jungle]

You forgot to say "who cares"

you are a part of the loop like all of us

[dusk patrol]

Never said I wasn’t

That’s the worst part

[storm jungle]

Good

anyway

[dusk patrol]

He’s not gonna

Cause you know

The core fucking idea of the setting

[dusk patrol]

Maybe eventually

But not for awhile

[winter vessel]

POV: Walking out a GW store and letting the reality of spending on figures kick in

[queen laurel]

that insult made want to hit her like

[storm jungle]

shoutout to all the homies buying that one 2k titan mini

[low gazelle]

Well the inquisition is working on sacrificing something for a certain someone. spoilers for newer books ii think

[dusk patrol]

Might start playing Darktide again

[winter vessel]

Grimdark 'Bullet Train' movie

[dusk patrol]

That’s been resolved

Spoiler for the newest book

[low gazelle]

HAS IT?

[dusk patrol]

Also it won’t go anywhere

[raven stone]

An actual mission fail screen. Man I miss these from C&C.

[dusk patrol]

Like that’s the setting

[low gazelle]

shoot itt

[dusk patrol]

This plot point has come up before

[storm jungle]

Dukane shit-talking us before the train explodes is even funnier

[dusk patrol]

Multiple times

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-gta-sa-grand-theft-auto-grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-gta-one-liners-gif-17462020

[winter vessel]

what if she said it too early? "So much for Grendyl's vaunted warband...did...did it not explode yet?" BOOM "aw FUCK!"

[storm jungle]

[winter vessel]

results don't matter, but fucking up one liners is worse

[raven stone]

Wait hang on Dukane is in the tower?
Or on the train!?

[queen laurel]

what i like in that mission the most to be fair is Kayex

they're doing well but minor obstacles are in the way

** literal Fucking captain kicking our shit in **

[storm jungle]

No no shes off-site

[dusk patrol]

In SM2 the first operation if you fail to keep the Nids off the reactor you get a minute of the machine spirit telling you how to fucked up before it actually fails you

Just to really let it set in

[raven stone]

Damn the dialogue line made me think she is on site lol.

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Im sure Veteran Difficulty players loved sitting through that

[loud badge]

Baltazan the restless

[storm jungle]

[languid meadow]

defending that generator alone with a knife while the heavy is beating a guant to death is peak SM2

[winter vessel]

the train mission once again shows the abandonment of logic, lol. Reinforced by a disciplined regiment or the Four Crack Fiends.

[low gazelle]

I wouldntt know. never failed that part

[dusk patrol]

Some of us aren’t content with sticking to average

[low gazelle]

Did it on ruthless

[winter vessel]

I've only had sucess all the way up to substantial. I've only done 1 ruthless and failed

[low gazelle]

Ruthlessness is mercy uppon ourselves (GOATD if you ggeet the reference)

[raven stone]

No, it’s more it shows the loyalists in the sector are really incompetent to the point 4 crackheads actually do better.

[dusk patrol]

Also some of us get stuck with certain people who don’t seem to get that the DEFEND THE GENERATORS marker isn’t optional

And sitting by the ammo box with a finger up your butt isn’t actually gonna win

[storm jungle]

I have never failed generator defense once even on Ruthless and im glad i havent yet 💀

[low gazelle]

I turn on voice chhat cause when ur low level doing that sh on ruthless

[storm jungle]

because i know otherwise im gonna fucking scream

[dusk patrol]

I’d have thought its idiot proof but

They invented a better idiot

[low gazelle]

I usually save two grenades ffor that part specifically

cause its typiically 2 to 3 gens

[dusk patrol]

I’ve done it plenty

[low gazelle]

and only one wave really sticks to iti

[dusk patrol]

Sometimes it hits you with a bigger wave and you’re bulwark and the rest of your squad for some reason thinks the enemies on the other side of the map are more important

[low gazelle]

I want my heretical customization

[storm jungle]

I always get a melta before going into that part because i dont trust my team lol

[low gazelle]

I usually just playy assault bulwark or sniper

so I usually am able to carry missions

[dusk patrol]

Generally I play with a guy who we can do it regardless of the IQ check for our random

Although the Heldrake fight amazes me

[low gazelle]

HOLY SH

[dusk patrol]

People can’t get

[low gazelle]

COMMON SENSE AINT SO COMMON

[storm jungle]

I wanna fucking strangle people that get the symbols wrong

[dusk patrol]

PUT SHAPE IN SHAPE

[low gazelle]

IT TEACHES YOU BEFORE THE FIGGHHT

[dusk patrol]

I had a dude who, four times

Fucked it up

He was level 25

[storm jungle]

Its the perfect example of how braindead some gamers are.

[dusk patrol]

Also he didn’t take cover from the fire

[low gazelle]

Thhats the dude who puts everry shape thrrougghh the square hole 😭

[dusk patrol]

And kept trying to dodge it

We got it done cause he died

I really should have just kicked him

[low gazelle]

thats a really longg mission though

[winter vessel]

yeah, you screw up the symbol while fending off spawns of 1k sons and tzeentch cultists and Tzaangors, one can go bald with the amount of hair pulling from rage

[dusk patrol]

Like I started telling him “hey just stop fucking touching anything”

[storm jungle]

Fuck em.

[dusk patrol]

And he still

Kept

Pressing

The

Wrong

Button

[low gazelle]

pfffffft bbased

[storm jungle]

I was playing as a Lvl25 on a Minimal mission to help some randoms out

they got the symbol wrong for the first time

[dusk patrol]

This was ruthless also

[storm jungle]

then let me do everything else

really appreciated that

[dusk patrol]

We were all 20+

Like jfc

The other guy was good though so at least we did it

And didn’t die at that part

[low gazelle]

I just remembered this is lore chat

[winter vessel]

i make sure to ping the right symbol station if we're spread out

[dusk patrol]

Same with the cart part

[storm jungle]

we go off topic a lot its good lol

[dusk patrol]

Like, these are not complex “puzzles”

[storm jungle]

Once again, the Thousand Sons are awful.

i actively avoid their missions

which is like half of operations

[dusk patrol]

Just follow the damn train CJ

[storm jungle]

because 6 fucking maps

[low gazelle]

Its suchh a good game the only critique is that we need more of it 💀

[storm jungle]

Its mid imo, its fun when it works but frustrating when it doesnt.

it perfectly deserves its 7/10 score.

[dusk patrol]

Largely the main change they need to make imo is just reduce minoris health

[winter vessel]

I was paired with a sniper while i was a vanguard. he played the smart move by staying back and making the dusty boys "finisher" available for me to pick off. did pretty well for a Substantial run

[languid meadow]

there are no chaos missions in SM2

[dusk patrol]

Sniper is insane once you level it up

[storm jungle]

Sniper is so fucking fun dude

[dusk patrol]

Bulwark too made me mad when I got it leveled

Cause like, how the fuck did all these bulwarks I played with die?

[low gazelle]

its a 2000's game. I get like halo 2 and mw2 vibes from it. as a 2002 bbaby thhis ggame feels nostolgic af

[dusk patrol]

Or not heal me?

[low gazelle]

my keyboard keepps doing double inpputs

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Assault is the only one I really think is in a bad place and it’s still playable

[low gazelle]

Assault is so op

[winter vessel]

Division is that you? (Bullet sponge trauma)

[dusk patrol]

The rest are all amazing in their own way

[low gazelle]

well not op it just requires you to turn on tthe dark souls skill

[storm jungle]

Assault was actively said by the developers to be shit

they will fix it eventually

the campaign just lying to you about it is crap tho imo

[dusk patrol]

It’s viable it just needs some help

[low gazelle]

I enjoy the minigame of dodgging for gunstrikes

[dusk patrol]

There’s stuff to adjust but overall it’s a good launch

[winter vessel]

I like the Assault, especially when you get the GL attachment to take out minoris groups

[dusk patrol]

Largely I think reducing minoris health and making the Tzaangor shields weaker would fix most of the issues

[storm jungle]

ONE

TZAANGILLION

TZAANGORS

[low gazelle]

TZAANGORS SHIELDS NEED TO DIE

IM SORRY BUT WTF ARRE THEY MADE OF

[dusk patrol]

If you could shred them with most weapons easier and melee then the rest is much more manageable

[arctic talon]

A tzaangillion minis sold

[outer wave]

I wonder why Tzaangor shields arent breakable like in VT2

[arctic talon]

Pure plotanium

[outer wave]

That'd be kinda nice

[winter vessel]

my co-worker has a table top hatred for Tzaangors. now I share a hatred of them through SM2

[storm jungle]

Tzaangilium

[arctic talon]

The same shit their swords are made out of

Because that shit had AP3 in 7e

Power armor what

[low gazelle]

cant wait for necron op's to be made 💀

[arctic talon]

Plasma who

[dusk patrol]

Some bolt weapons definitely need some buffs too

[arctic talon]

Bolt weapons kind of suck lol

[low gazelle]

PPlasma wins war

[dusk patrol]

They’ve said there gonna reduce enemy health though so I’ll see how that ends up

[winter vessel]

idk, still find them handy for me

[storm jungle]

Repost but necessary.

[dusk patrol]

Some are much better

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Bolt sniper and stalker are both great largely

[storm jungle]

yeah but those are OP ones

[arctic talon]

This is true

[low gazelle]

The stalker iis so strong in ppvp

[dusk patrol]

Pistol is hilariously really good

[arctic talon]

The GL attachment is the real goat

[low gazelle]

So is the instigator

[arctic talon]

Tbh

Pistol is great

[winter vessel]

it's probably just me, but i like the Instigator Bolt Carbine.

[storm jungle]

Im considering upgrading that bolter just for it

[low gazelle]

Yeaaaaaaa

[dusk patrol]

The instigator is also good

The heavy bolter and rifle definitely need love

[storm jungle]

Which was the instigator again

theres like 10 bolters in this game i hate it

[winter vessel]

3 round burst

[storm jungle]

Ewwwww

[low gazelle]

im already on purple so close to relic

[storm jungle]

burst weapon

[dusk patrol]

Its the most OP combo in the game

[low gazelle]

dont dis my Halo br like that

[storm jungle]

Im gonna stick to the bolt G36 thanks

[leaden pilot]

worse, burst weapon without burst lenght control

[dusk patrol]

But yeah they buff some of those, adjust melee a bit, nerfs minoris health

Game would be in a much better stop fast

[storm jungle]

Thats if they even bother with it.

[dusk patrol]

Fix assaults tree a bit

[storm jungle]

they did acknowledge some stuff

[winter vessel]

its fun to use as assault from time to time

[storm jungle]

while fully ignoring other things

[dusk patrol]

They’re focusing on the server issues rn

[storm jungle]

They should focus on deez nuts

[winter vessel]

ill take that first

[dusk patrol]

There’s a patch tomorrow

[storm jungle]

also seriously buff the armor system

[low gazelle]

Ok but is it just me or does the movement feel... really smooth but chonky for this perfect combo of fast but heavy

[storm jungle]

its so useless

[dusk patrol]

Also they have to do the ultra wide and shit

[storm jungle]

The animators did a good job with it

and like

kept the tank-fridge movement from SM1

its good to also showcase people Marines are not Agents from the Matrix lol

[dusk patrol]

The weight of everything is great

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-agent-bulletproof-speed-gif-7432265

like

i legit do not understand when people think astartes fight like this

its so goofy

lmao

[dusk patrol]

Also I love how like, bored some of the animations are

[leaden pilot]

i love chaining parries and gunstrikes, it looks so good

[dusk patrol]

Like they’ve done this a million times

The one where they jsut catch the gaunt or tzaangor on the knife

And flick them off

So contemptuous

[arctic talon]

Punting the tzaangor

[leaden pilot]

The kick is best

[dusk patrol]

It’s a lot of fun

[queen laurel]

this game is now taking the title of most accurate representation of space marine movement then

[winter vessel]

I really love the weightiness of our Space Marine's movement. the chonky kind of movement where you enter a room that has a small doorframe but you don't fix yourself and bust through it like a chad.

[low gazelle]

I think its because of book descriptions when guardsman descrribbe them its like a flash of lightningg and a slurry off blood

[leaden pilot]

pov: you're a tzangoor trying to jump at me

[dusk patrol]

Also in general it does a good job showing the scrappiness of marines and raw strength

Like dismantling the Carnifex

[storm jungle]

Yeah its wank essentially.

This game shows it much better.

[low gazelle]

Also im thhinkin spartans from halo type logic. where its slowed down for gameplay

[storm jungle]

its mostly for dramatic purposes

Astartes being semi-slow and lumbering meat-men is much better

they still react to shit fast in cutscenes but not to a ridiculous level

[low gazelle]

The animations do not get old

[dusk patrol]

Also killing cultists by running into them or rolling is amusing

[low gazelle]

thhe execute are so fun

[storm jungle]

Ive been trying to teach some players this and not waste ammo 💀

[arctic talon]

Mfw I watch someone use the melta on cultists

[leaden pilot]

They absolutely do not
after almost 60 hours I still like seeing them

[dusk patrol]

I just spam whatever pistol at them

[low gazelle]

All my teamates runningg at ffull speed the moment they see a glimpse of red

[arctic talon]

Ngl the only animation I’m sick of is the carnifex one lol

[dusk patrol]

Ammo has become less and less an issue as time goes on for me

[winter vessel]

we are a train. I just barrel roll into em to save ammo

[dusk patrol]

I like the Neurothrope one a lot

[low gazelle]

Its so hard to train new players to wait ffor my banner to then execute for hp back 😭

[storm jungle]

Yeah the boss ones get boring since its just 1 lol

I love when like

[leaden pilot]

I don't really like the Hellbrute execute, just dropping that head seems weird to me

[storm jungle]

someone is executing a helbrute

or a carnifex

and the two players just run off and leave

LOL

[arctic talon]

I like the neurothrope one

Tbh

[storm jungle]

because they know its gonna take like 20s to end

"nah im not staying around"

[dusk patrol]

Shanking it with its own claw is

Gnarly

[storm jungle]

That one for the warrior is the one im most tired of

[winter vessel]

hmm. I stay and watch, give the guy a little audience, especially when there's no enemies to fight

[low gazelle]

Me skipping the entire mission the moment I gget the armoury data

[storm jungle]

i like to get more physical

[dusk patrol]

I really like the knife ones

[storm jungle]

I sometimes also do that out of courtesy

[storm jungle]

the throat slit is so rare its criminal

[dusk patrol]

The throat slit is so drawn out

Love it

[low gazelle]

THE KNIFE ONES ARRE SICK

[winter vessel]

doing finishers on the little nids i find more fun. one is just us yeeting them into the ground like a baseball

[dusk patrol]

And the Rubric one where you slam your knife in

[leaden pilot]

Knife's moveset is my favorite

[storm jungle]

and TAP that shit

[dusk patrol]

Also the power swords quick slashes

[low gazelle]

ngl going from darrktide to sm2 was such a good transistion. except darktide ffeels more difficult

[dusk patrol]

Are really satisfying

[storm jungle]

Knife is one o fthe most fun/best weapons in the game, im glad most players entirely ignore it, more for me

[storm jungle]

Darktide is a lot more complex and the combat requires more thought.

[dusk patrol]

I wish the heavy had some unique finishers with his guns

[storm jungle]

SM2 is so and so

[dusk patrol]

Just barrel stuff a nid with the MM

[storm jungle]

best i can do is for it to disappear

[leaden pilot]

I love the spin attack of the knife, it looks so good

[winter vessel]

shove the barrel into its face and pull the trigger, kind of finisher

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

like that one deathwatch art

[dusk patrol]

Or smash them with it

Yeah

[storm jungle]

yeah I do not like it just... disappearing lol

it kinda goes to show how awkward being a gunner is in any media/universe

[winter vessel]

also the 1k sorcerer, i need alternative finishers for that one

[storm jungle]

Yep thats the one

[dusk patrol]

“Chew on this”

[storm jungle]

OH MAN

yeah that gets boring too

[arctic talon]

Have you been brushing your teeth?

[dusk patrol]

I really hope we get an exalted sorcerer terminus boss

[storm jungle]

I forgot was the "new enemy" just 1 unit or more

[dusk patrol]

And we can just beat him to death with his beyblade

Not clear

[arctic talon]

They haven’t said

[storm jungle]

Damn

[winter vessel]

It'd be funny to do it gears of war style. Rip off their arms and just beat em to death with it

[dusk patrol]

They have said it’s not gonna be a minoris thing

[arctic talon]

Add in the mini gun rubric

[storm jungle]

fuck no

shut the fuck up

[arctic talon]

Tzaangor with crossbow

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

I expect we might get some flying Nids

[arctic talon]

Gargoyle pls

[winter vessel]

no its just a cultist but NO MASK HMMM

[arctic talon]

Give us all the gaunts

[low gazelle]

I want my flying hive tyrant

GIVE IT TO ME

[dusk patrol]

Allegedly there’s a leak for a bio titan set piece for the next missions

[storm jungle]

Nah its not alleged

theres a video for it on youtube

but yea deffo a setpiece

[queen laurel]

ya think they're gonna add a neurotyrant?

[storm jungle]

i assume it got taken down already tho lol

[winter vessel]

fight this

[dusk patrol]

Be cool if we got to take one down or saw a titan vs one in the background

[arctic talon]

Neurothrope but even more annoying

Be upon ye

[storm jungle]

Lmao dude

i was playing a match on Ruthless

the moment a Neuro showed up

we just ran to the checkpoint

and despawned it

no one wanted to fight it

[arctic talon]

Give us the lore accurate zoanthrope brood

Of like

6 zoans

[low gazelle]

hear me out...

[dusk patrol]

I honestly find neuro easier than Carnifex a lot of times

[storm jungle]

It depends

[arctic talon]

Neuro is just a pain in the ass

[storm jungle]

if its like a cramped spot you are deffo getting wiped

[dusk patrol]

His attacks are pretty easy to dodge

[storm jungle]

Its not the attacks itself

[dusk patrol]

But yeah

[storm jungle]

its more getting uhhh

ganged up on etc

when neuro has support its absolute ass

or when a wave is triggered

[arctic talon]

Neuro is way harder when there is trash

[dusk patrol]

Just kill the other gang smh

[storm jungle]

^

[leaden pilot]

Gonna have that dark souls experience with all the rolling you'd have to do

[arctic talon]

Carni is harder on its own

[low gazelle]

The amount off people I need to tell not to jump in the middle of the hoard and stay on the outside of it kkeeping them in ffront scarres me

[dusk patrol]

It’s very fun playing sniper when the zoanthropes show up though

[winter vessel]

how would a Tervigon mini boss fight go about? just acts a killing spawn beacon for termagaunts?

[storm jungle]

bro

you kill them in like 3-4 shots

its fucking great

your teammates dont even get to do anything

[low gazelle]

snipers are so underepped

[storm jungle]

well also their heads are kinda hard to miss

[dusk patrol]

Those circlejerking dorks don’t know what they’re in for

[low gazelle]

you see thhose 3 majoris all rred? that was me mf

[storm jungle]

🗿

[low gazelle]

yw for those arrmor points

[dusk patrol]

Yeah sniper is definitely one of the best classes

[storm jungle]

Its super slept on

which is good

i get to play it more

[low gazelle]

The sniper is not op at all and doesnt need a nerf

[dusk patrol]

Also Scipius is a huge over dramatic asshole to everyone for no reason an it’s hilarious

[low gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-6037055492951935036

[dusk patrol]

It’s not and it doesn’t

It’s just good

[low gazelle]

Im so scared of a hell diverrs situation

[dusk patrol]

The devs haven’t expressed any desire to nerf stuff just fix bugs

[low gazelle]

HHow did they ffumble that so hahrrd

[dusk patrol]

And have already said they’re gonna adjust enemy health

[winter vessel]

I like Decimus

[dusk patrol]

They also seem very aware that this is a huge opportunity for them

[storm jungle]

The internet has ruined scipius for me

[dusk patrol]

And the CEO does the PR speak

[leaden pilot]

Decimus is so fun

[storm jungle]

I just hear "skibi" whenver someone says his fucking name

[leaden pilot]

I love his "Magazine out, magazine in"

[storm jungle]

💀

[dusk patrol]

I just love how he’s always so intense

DO I RESEMBLE A FOE?! NO!

[winter vessel]

“Smells like fresh munitions”

[low gazelle]

Skibi I am here brother. Its me Ejaculous and flacibius.

[dusk patrol]

Straban is the best

[winter vessel]

Also Straban acts very like an Iron Hands to me

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[languid meadow]

engage standard moral boost

[leaden pilot]

"That heavy bolter of yours is a pride of the armory"
"Yes"
"Good talk"
Best dialogue

[winter vessel]

He’s like TF2 heavy but computer

[storm jungle]

Im gonna hear that fucking repetitive voiceline in my nightmares.

[dusk patrol]

“Brother Straban how do you maintain such concentration in battle?”

“I eliminate unnecessary conversation.”

“Oh th-…oh….”

[leaden pilot]

Yeah, at least they're fun

[storm jungle]

Yeah its more that they get a bit dull fast

its like 2 interactions for everyone

some are better than others

like

[dusk patrol]

I’d definitely like them to add more

[winter vessel]

And then he tries to cheer Valius up by saying he’s useful, lol

[storm jungle]

"You know whats better than one chainswords?" TWO chainswords."

"The codex approves of our tactics."

WHO WROTE THIS

GRIMDANK?

[low gazelle]

"carryy a big gun and never miss

[dusk patrol]

I mean tbf Decimus is basically a canonical dumbass

[storm jungle]

[leaden pilot]

I play mostly Decimus, so I don't really experience others, and I think that his ones are pretty good

[dusk patrol]

He’s fun but he’s definitely a little uh

Overly enthusiastic

[low gazelle]

ii just joined a missiion in prroggress and their all close to dieingg

gotta lock in

[dusk patrol]

The fact that he’s missing an eye and hasn’t replaced it yet is a funny detail

[winter vessel]

I refer to Decimus as the Tryhard of his frat group

[dusk patrol]

Also all the melee guys are missing eyes and have huge head wounds

[low gazelle]

they got bonkked and now thhey bonk bback - some ogryn

[dusk patrol]

The Bulwark is probably my least favorite VA though

Idk he’s just weird sounding to me and he’s not even dorky like the tactical

[storm jungle]

the Bulwark is like

so generic, its not even an insult

he actually feels like an NPC

"WE WILL BE YOUR BULWARK BROTHER TITUS"

Shut the fuck up

[dusk patrol]

He’s got a really weird deep voice

Like idk how to describe it

It’s not nasal but it’s like

Idk it doesn’t do it for me

[storm jungle]

You can tell they just could also find nothing to do with him.

aside from like

shield puns and flags i guess?

"MY BANNER AWAITS UNFURLING"

Yeah cool

[low gazelle]

strraight and narrrow paladin

[dusk patrol]

He does have the drip though so he’s got that going for him

[low gazelle]

II think they did it fine

[storm jungle]

hes just fine

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think any are bad

Some are just better

[storm jungle]

Most are just "ok"

I just hate the excuse of like

[dusk patrol]

Tactical is so dorkily the tactical it’s funny

[storm jungle]

"marines are suppose to be robotic"

"their dialogue doesnt need to be good"

which is like... not true at all lol

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/6sIa1XDOFnw?si=tJBMpj3iRC173dAo

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats the video where i saw that lmao

[low gazelle]

Looks at sakan

[storm jungle]

the dicksucking in the comments is CRAZY

[dusk patrol]

I think they could definitely add more dialogue

[storm jungle]

I HATE HIS NAME SO MUCH

"Sakan deez-"

[dusk patrol]

He’s not even the only Salamander with a dick sucking joke name

[pine wedge]

it's clearly something that SM2 is much worse at than DT

[winter vessel]

They called Quarter( I name him that) the “Chad”

[low gazelle]

warhhammer rizz

[storm jungle]

Its terrible.

[pine wedge]

squad banter in DT is peak

[storm jungle]

To be fair

[dusk patrol]

It started out much worse

So I hope they’ll add more soon

Vermintide is still better to me sadly

As much as I enjoy Darktide

[dusk patrol]

But yes “Tsu’gan” like come on Kyme

I don’t believe you didn’t see that

[storm jungle]

comparing Tide dialogue to Space Marine is like Coughing Baby vs Nuclear Bomb

[storm jungle]

Tsu'gan is just VILE

its peak "these guys never say the names they write outloud"

which is something you should do legit as a writer, it helps a lot with naming

also "Ignean"

fucking die

[winter vessel]

Gonna be one space marine named Tes’tacles like Achilles

[storm jungle]

NOOOOO