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why take the piss tho
Negotiations deadline is December for the show
Whatever you say isekai swordsman magical guy 105
it's joever
Considering they negotiated a spot for Secret Level
And considering how well sm2 and 40k in general has been doing
feel like tythes has done the needful for warhammer
Safe bet they'll buy into it
the problem is WH+ isnt public, so the show gets no proper coverage and spread
you can watch the cool bits for free on youtube
yeah that
that's all there is to
or just find torrents
but i mean like the whole thing
not the hyper sigma edits or some shit
Man The Imperials on the third episodes though
btw, i heard that some people tried to claim the SoS in tithes was GW being woke and forcing DEI by including a deaf person
no fuckin way
They did advertise that they were using actual sign language
so people got upset lol
ofc they did
well "people"
Isn't like one of the things in the Lore is that they are mute because they made a vow of silence
like fuck dude enjoy the show stop ruinin it for others man why they do that
there's a guy who uploaded unedited scenes from the tithes but i think they got him banned
you know the thing that is written for their Lore and that people apparently so-called
can't find him anymore
they did
yeah best to use the term loosely when talking about that braindead lot
lost a good man that day
They used modified British Sign Language, pretty interesting
its literally why they are called the sisters of silence
like come on
Same reason they use modified British English.
im gonna kill myself if the LGBT community asks for a trans character or some shit
yep
whats the difference between sister of silence and battle
just about everything
are they just l;ike the custodes to the space marines
Huh?
One is a soulless freakish abomination utterly dedicated to the service of a dead carrion-lord. And the others are Sisters of Silence.
Don't tell this guy about Banshees.
saw one scene from a transformers c=new cartoon show where they made the bot get fuckin pronouns of they them
Huh?
search it up
I don't see the problem
OOooOOOOoooo they/them!!!
yeah
but like why is all
it's a robot
here's the question why are you upset
Very based
aint no one care about pronouns in a kids show
it's literally just a robot
You sure seem to
not upset just confused
yes then why be ruffled about it
You do
confused is all
Robutt Girlyman
Rowbooty Gorillaman
that is...unforseen
The Enbybots
Rogala Dorny
Theyre robots they dont have to conform to our sense of gender and sex
true
We stan a non-binary sovereign
I appreciate that one trans necron in the Twice Dead tbh
Real
i mean it's in the name come on guys
Trans
Transformers
broooo
Although yeah like computers and non- ‘binary’ is ironic lol
Transformers
MtF in disguise
sorry but we debunkin trans in transformers
actually pretty cool
Yeah its just shown and moved on from because to necrons it doesnt matter.
Its the same with non-binary techpriests, they dont care 
guess so
the gladiator Dark Eldar In Da Big Dakka?
Dilara look out, it's ReichMaster1488, he's about to tell you about how woke the necron is!
Gotta do something to stay sane after 40 millions years
Yeah that too
yeah
what is woke?
like who made it
i dont get it
don't ask us
If the internet is to be believed it's having basic empathy
yep
i know but like its such a weird way to put it in a social norm
truly an unforgiveable crime for the right wing
anyway iill figure it out later
"Woke" was essentially originally a positive term like "waking up" to actual reality/facts.
Now its more or less being turned into a buzzword by bigots, homophobes, sexists, etc for anything they dont like. Like lets say you watched a movie with a big female cast and just hated it because the movie itself sucked, meanwhile your friend is raging about how "its woke" because it had women in it lol
Yuh
and i loved that poast definition
cant even think i woke up without losing my shit
products and media can be bad for any reason, it has nothing to do with gender or identity politics
you are better off spending your brain power on studying the lore of skibidi toilet than understanding the culture wars
You don't think there's at least one piece of media where those issues are represented badly?
me when someone unironically uses Woke in an argument
rather study about the different kinds of dreadnoughts
It's like a kid getting a math problem right, but when you ask to see their work the bottom half of the page is covered in piss
that commissar was a chad bro
took a punch like a beast from an ork as well
he is wearing armor
a blow like that would case a lot of internal trama
sitll
Considering the topic beforehand, thought you just said internal trans
He did straight throw up blood
and it did, if it wasn't for his armor his bones would have been shattered
yeah
I curse you with possessed captain from Ultramarines movie
looks like a dodo ngl
His legs are so short
Me hungry and stalking my way into the kitchen at 1 AM
not gonna work since it aint the emperors skull or whatever
was the spacemarine movie good tho?
"Brother Proteus, you must take the Warhammer 40000 and excise this demon!"
It's not said
is it implied
But the main saviour macguffin is a warhammer

THE Warhammer
whoaaaaaaaaaaa
So fuckikg funny
even albert einstein wudnt prove that shit
The protag is voiced by Gotham Alfred
Just a little short video of Alfred's badassness for Sean Pertwee's mini edit competition :)
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I apologise for the quality of the clips, these were the only ones I had available at the moment!
Bro they're robots
nah
the issue is resolved sister
and there's been trans transformers since like the 90s
My favourite character in the movie is Captain Obvious, aka Apothecary Pythol
Looks at dead corpse
"He's dead"
again sister it is resolved
Looks at guy missing half his head
"Dead, head wound, fatal"
I'll resolve you
helluva statement tho
oph noooo
a cute killer
thats so adorable tho
If I had a nickel for everything Fulgrim asked someone to give a speech and they told him to go fuck himself I’d have two nickels which is hilarious it happened twice (Rylanor and Dorn)
he did technically fuck himself
Also I’m in love with the Dreadnought in SM2 are they always this ready to fight everything
"Vile sons of Magnus! Is he here?!"
Breaks wall
Rips Helbrute apart
“Where’s Magnus?”
Kinda sad to see the cool tzeentch dreadnought get destroyed though lol
There's like 3 trans necrons in Twice Dead King, Anathrosis is just the only MtF one
The character talking about her here is also trans which no one talks about
the author also confirmed it was 100% intentional which is even better
so is space marines 2 fighting against tyranids and thousand sons?
ah cool
Is.. is that Ghaz?
do calm thineself sister
fucked up.........
Generic Chaos Dreadnought is very Ghaz coded
Hmm
Anyway this seems like not a great idea tbh
I feel like this is going to get so easily clogged during spraying and then basing
disaster waiting to happen if im bein jhonest
whats the second pic on about tho
It's showing how it would look with a model on it
It's a base, so the idea is you assemble your model on it and it then has an inbuilt wound counter
cool yet ive got a feeling it aint smart
I mean a base is small enough that I don't see a big problem with putting primer on by hand, make the rim colorful, and then slam whatever you want on the top away from the gears
so cool
It's a tiny flat surface
Really the only thing that using a brush to prime is actually good for
mhm
tentacle armpit
Nevermind I just noticed the numbers on the wheel need to also be painted
This is the dumbest product ever

Standard GW product
id deffo mask off that little gap in the base with a small piece of tape if i was painting it etc
If I were more into KT I'd definitely get those
you'd need to get that primer on THICK if it were to jam that gear
id be more concerned with priming the numbers and then having to paint them on again
also the look like they'd come in separate pieces so you can just paint them before assembly
You can always just buy one and pay someone to paint it if you really don’t wanna
Or buy some painted from people
I’m trying to think I feel like I’ve seen stuff in easy ways to work with that
I remember there was a guy who had some in another discord but I can’t recall what he said he did
Man I’m bad at space marine, boltgun and I’m getting murdered in rogue trader
Brothers, I think I’m just bad at games
worst case just play on low diff
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Oh god the soundtrack for this
is going to slap
fucking obsessed with the track near the ending holy shit
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That's Mandalore lol
Cannot even tell its him lol
You really don't need to be priming the base
Not gonna lie its a bit cringe 
I did the soy pog face when I heard him the first time
That shit goes feral
They definitely have jesper kyd in a basement right

Also no hotfixes prior so no soundtrack file leaks
that means we are FUCKED
not sure if i can wait until actual release
Fatshark is hiding the proper commissar chest piece on an NPC, is this how revolver users feel when looking at rannick
I do like how they basically modelled her off Severina Raine too
Do it for jesper

I wonder if SM2 will get a Necron expansion
Thing is how do you balance necrons, literally the most basic weapons they have can literally atomize a marine
You balance them
Gameplay only i guess
Lore is malleable
they already confirmed the new "enemy" is one single unit
dont expect much lol
Yeah make gameplay mode
Oh the people that didn't catch on to that were idiots anyway
just have them suffer the flayer virus and they'd be swarming in as melee chaff 
I meant farther along
Uhh on that i also kinda doubt it
Maybe sequel bait
theres a reason half this game's "content" for the future is DLC
God i am itchy i want the locks removed
I want my perfect weapon damn it
Just a few more days
Total war has proven that dlc is an effective method for money
By manipulating the fans into buying the cool stuff
Hey i like Grom the paunch but having to buy him to get better orc units isn't really a fun idea
Yeah there are downsides but like I think total war dlc isn't all that bad (it's not paradox at least)
what even was the DLC drama with total war again
Ok so
It was only with the shadows of change dlc
Basically it felt like people where being ripped off with it
SoC had less content and more expensive
Yeah that basically
The community boycotted and they completely changed how their doing DLCs now
But there was also the fact that the way ca handled it was absolutely f******
Not good
Which led to Thrones of decay which was pretty good
I don't remember the specifics but i'm
Pretty sure they said something very bad and the community absolutely went wild
Less units, no generic lords and no Kislev rework
Yep, the literally went back to their generic format, legendary lord free lc lord, and as always a big show stopping monster
And if they feel like it adding a legendary hero which seems to also have been become a common practice
SoC also had an extreme amount of single unit monsters
I mean for fucks sake
Khorne has fucking three legendary heroes
When the next dlc will come out
I don't think khorne is getting another hero
They're making it so all mono god factions are getting a greater daemon, lesser daemon, and mortal
In the dlc talk video of ca he is apparently getting Bloodwrath and Scylla
As legendary heroes
Khorne is getting their minor daemon, tzeentch still needs a mortal, slaanesh needs a mortal and MD, and nurg is complete
Plus Karanak that is three
A legendary hero is one thing but three?
I can't help but think he's getting the best deal in this dlc
THEY ARE SPLITTING UP THE KILLTEAM RELEASE, NEXT WEEK PROBABLY IS NO STORMCAST AAAAAA
ITS PROBABLY MORE FUCKINH KILLTEAMS THAT ALREADY ARE RELEASED
AAAAAA
Well that is unfortunate
I wonder who is getting the flc
Prob ogres or khorne since orks have a billion lords right now
Yeah they have warbosses, goblin war bosses and the great goblin shamans
They are getting a savage orc shaman lord
So finally we have a generic version of wurrzag
man i gotta say they nailed the personality of SM2's vanguard
he thirsts for blood, and so do you when you play him
first person ive see thats praising sm2 characters
besides dilara pointing out handsome marines
i mean yeah, he stands out to me because he actually melds well with the playstyle that comes with the class
I need a blood bath….. or a shower
that and pissing the sniper off by attacking a target as the sniper zeroes in on them
Aside from them ngl
if you asked me whos who
with a gun to my head
id prob get my brains blown out lol
Do you think this will be the first edition that stormcasts are actually good?
That’s a good joke

Stormcast suffer from marine syndrome imo
Where GW is afraid to make them too good
And then potentially accidentally make something an absolute abomination
lmao i think i could differentiate most of the squad, except for the bulwark. Havnt listened to him much to know
I don’t want them to be strong I just don’t want them to be bad 
I also hope so
Pls people won’t buy them because they are strong
Only like 12% of people have a stormcast army
My point still stands on marine syndrome balance wise
But they still weirdly get the most attention
I can differantiate tactical, and vanguard by voice in the game
But heavy's dialagoue with I think Bulwark (?) is the best
Assault has some good voicelines
how many nightlords are alive at the start of the nightlord books
never read hte horris heresy so i only know the surface level lore.
Alive as in the entire legion or do you mean the cast
Isn't it one of the Darktide VAs
the legion
Undefinitive.
lemme check imbd
how many are on the ship in the book
its not really clear
Unclear, they’re absurdly shattered
There's enough to be counted as a legion
well yeah thats the point
So probably a few thousand scattered around
there's more than 10
The Traitor legion experience
its what they get for not pledging themselves to mommy slaanesh
i didnt know until now that the legions know how to make more space marines
In necromunda, in house Escher all the males are like functionally disabled/non viable right?
Decimus - Alessandro Babalola
Savant - Tashinga Bepete
The ones up-spire yeah
Very similar voices
they are born as genetic freaks mostly
Savant is the enforcer yeah?
must be a reigonal thing
What about below?
they both seem to have african-esque accents
Males dont get inducted into Escher gangs
Inbreeding moment
night lords sound russian
its not inbreeding
its a literal blight
their men-folk is infected by it
They sound like the demon twink from Baldurs Gate 3
So are their woman
It only effects the men
Narrates their books yeah
Very chad
Raphael
3
or w/e the fuck his name is
He’s a cambion
the hot one
raphael?
Same thing
Yes
He’s bad in bed
i hate him
Racism smh
stabbed him
Good, thats his job

His music is peak
amazing VA
Minthara's VA does 40k stuff too
You can ask Raphael’s incubus if he’s any good in bed
Anna Gregory yep
Funniest shit ever
I'm pretty sure i've been hearing Shadowheart's VA in 40k stuff recently too
she voices every Sororitas under the sun lol
i have almost 700 hours in bg3
i heard that
first level
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Yeah
Minthara does the voiceover here
Basically ganger escher who arent even of noble blood like the spire-escher just act in all-female gangs. The up-spire noble escher who actually got males in their families live until like teenagehood and just get their genetic material harvested near death.
and on the cycle goes
theres prob some artificial pregnancy involved using their seed to keep the bloodline pure but thats kind of it, they still get female nobles out of it regardless
Iirc there are some Amazonian stories of Esher kidnapping worthy mates. Though I think it's quite old lore
Yeah that is very false lmao
Are grey knights just overall better space marines
Since they're space marines AND very powerful psykers

damn wolf didn't know you balled like that
Yep.
Uh so and so.
They are good-good but like their main job is to fight daemons, they can still get bodied by skilled opponents.
thats hard
as we see in Months of Shame
Oh okay
So they don't really specialise in any specific combat other than daemons
Well they are still space marines so they are dangerous as is, but yeah their main job is killing daemons.
People like custodes are more high-tier and multi-killing purpose so lol
Tbf they fought a chapter master so it was like sickly teenager versus hydrogen bomb
demons are some of the most powerful creatures in the setting so by definition the grey knights are pretty high up there
Lmao nah
Daemons are inconsistent as shit
unless its like some massive named greater daemon
Depends on the daemon, non mono god daemons seem to be way more powerful than mono god ones more often than not
Well yeah they're psychic space marines
I don't think tau have anti psychic stuff (I could be wrong)
Not really.
This is 40k.
they arent invincible
a railgun shot to the face would still melt their head off
God bless guns
They are hyper-specialized to fight daemons, to the point of not participating in most other battlezones unless forced to.
kaldor draigo proving the setting can be whatever the writer wants it to be
And it hurts my soul so much,
Tangerine
Yeah but hes a shit character so it balances it out
Castellan Crowe gang rise up
Despite all my rage we lost anval thawn
There’s a bit in one of the Ventris books where they test Ventris and his friend Pasanius for corruption by having them both duel a standard Grey Knight brother each. They both get bodied hard.
Ventris being an accomplished captain and Pasanius being a massive veteran Sgt whose no slouch either.
So generally speaking, they’re gonna be better than most marines yes
There’s always exceptions but stuff like Logan Grimnar, whose not only one of the oldest and longest serving chapter masters but also can do wild shit like sprint and leap in terminator armor, beating one by surprise isn’t exactly a mark against them.
Grimnar is such a goof
I love him
Also sometimes the HH sounds like two powergamers adding more and more op things
What the fuck is the Martian civil war
It’s exactly what it sounds like
Mars had a civil war, the traitors won
Very early on in the heresy
So Mars was basically blockaded for most of the heresy
Until the siege when they couldn’t
The clusterfuck on mars
when you say "what the fuck is this ' it's used as way to express disbelief
I know what it was
The traitors won but fighting went on until the end of the heresy
And after the siege it was retaken
Tbh
It's just ridiculous
I mean it’s in the name
Literally the worst like
War
In the heresy
Mars still has not recovered from it lol
Ok talking about the things the writers cooked up during the civil war not the event in itself
Like massive god machines that can do anything
This is why I said this
The kaban machine?
The writers were like " hmm what op things can we cook up and never mention again "
You’ll have to forgive me we do actually get people that ask questions like “what was the Martian Civil War”
It ok
As if its name shouldn’t basically explain it

Idk the war for mars
Is so fucking funny
A city gets taken, literally gets doused in phosphex
By the defenders out of spite
Killing literally everyone
the cybernetic revolt is worse imo
They also flooded the Magma city in
typical battle of the heresy
That has no lore
Magma

The Martian civil war was the loyalist mechanicum being a bunch of spiteful assholes
As they died lol
entirety of thramas
What we do need more lore for is the Moirae Schism
Well yeah
But the few tidbits we get are uh
something
as per lexicanum:
But yeah the loyalist Mechanicum elements literally just did the “if I can’t have it nobody can” thing and blew their forges up in various means
Or nuked themselves or whatever
Wasted everything they could before they died
Yes we have one memory from Oll
The Ordo reductor not being mostly turned was a huge mistake by Kelbor Hal tbh
Considering
You know
All the super weapons
it’s the fucking Ordo reductor
Like yeah a lot of good the Legio Cybernetica is gona do
Also the multiple Titan Legios on world
And knight houses
He could have perhaps been a bit more prepared
He was kinda insane by this point though so it’s hard to blame him

the music 
You think the imperium has ocean worlds that solely exist to produce ink for the scribes
They got entire worlds dedicated to tallow so yes
I mean have you seen how many candles they use
So an entire world where they just milk squids?
Milk? Nah they probably just cut the ink sacs out and use the squid as rations or feed for the others
Yes
Fathom is an ocean world who's resource output is Water, algae, seafood and ink lol
Nice
bog standard rhino finished
assembled at least
time to paint it as a storm walker vehicle
again i'm thinking leadbelcher with black parts
@dusk patrol would that look like shit you think?
fuuuuck
god i need more pre primarch legion lore so badly
why am i so fascinated by this
im ashamed to admit i like 30k more than 40k
There's a lot more nuance in 30k: more hope and optimism than the eternal war of 40k.
"hope and optimism" 😭
In 40k, galaxy conquering and xenocide is hopeful and optimistic
Its also like, half the opening of 30k books is "the dream of humanity is shattered" or something, i forgot lol
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I was reading Flight of the Eisenstein last night and Typhon was thinking about how he was gonna be the herald of the new ways
because he's the HERALD of nurgle you see 🤡
It's not just Dan
Ahriman should've gotten his vineyard
THEY'RE ALL GUILTY
do not ever forget
All because of Horus, because of the brightest bastard son, the bringer of new strife.
Dorn heard stone splinter. He looked down, he had punched his fist, *his Imperial fist*, through a block of stone in the parapet. He had barely registered the impact. The block was pulverised.
"My lord, is everything all right?“
HIS. IMPERIAL. FIST.
god damn it
It choked on my Totitos
because of that
This is peek cheesyness
I love it
You gotta read the HH ironically
tfw my introduction to the warhammer universe was the Space Marine movie ||it was alright||
Lmao mine was this one video
In the grim-dark future of the 41st millennium, there is only RED and BLU.
I watched it on youtube in 720p
almost 15 years ago
i watched it like a few months after it was first uploaded on 2009
I miss the 00's-10's
same
Best year was '98 tho
98-99 was great ok
we had THE MATRIX and Brood War
That's all I remember 👀
Stranger Things
I forgot I watched that
I keep calling the villain in the last season the Steak Man
i know right
His IMPERIAL FIST
whats the difference between iconoclast and dogmatic in the context of the Warhammer universe?
Nothing, its made for the game
Iconoclast is the "Semi-Good Guy" option
Dogmatic is "Generic Zealot Imperial" option
does it mean you worship the emperor but not like a god?
No
Its not really related to that
yeah that
Literally ^
They changed it to iconoclast because A. It’s cooler
And B. You’re also a literal iconoclast to traditonal imperial like
Traditions
Basically Iconoclast is the gigachad "I got no enemies" option
its not ALWAYS the correct decision keep that in mind
but most of the time theres nothing wrong with it
Sometimes you really do need to shoot someone
^
dogmatic is like sisters of battle?
^
I hate poor people
Grind them up and feed them to their kids
LOL

You don’t hate poor people, you just hate when they aren’t working
So they get put into the orphan grinder
best way to fix the homless problem in cali
feed them to children
fbi cant track me i have a vpn
Mmm Frostpunk
The poor are not people
-my dogmatic rogue trader
shit I forgot about frostpunk
LOL
Is the 2nd one good?

THE GIRL'S A MINER
Frostpunk 2 is good apparently
they gave their life for the god emperor
Also this is poor management
I had child laborers
And barely any died
Weak tbh
just get better kids tbh
my kid is a dog
one day the population will be resistant to coal fumes
LITERALLY got that dog in em
we just have to keep sending kids into the mines
Tbh
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Min maxing child labor
Reminds of the stupid Stellaris videos
Or other harsher jobs
As long as you aren’t incompetent
But child labor is really strong
On safe jobs lol
Most morally normal Stellaris player
Though it is hilarious to shove them into the coal mines
Oh I know this strat
Is this the Gaia world strat
With barbaric despoilers
Luv me barbaric despoilers
Wish stealing pops didn’t cause -250 relationship now though
Idk
They should prolly buff normal slavery lol
It’s always been very weak
This sounds so bad out of context
since they added it to CK3 I hope we get roaming empires in stellaris one day
What sm chapters follow the OG imperial truth?
not entirely true
I guess the part of no gods is gone but like the founding legions don't really few the emperor as a god ( or at least most of the members of said chapters )
That isn’t following the imperial truth
The first founding Marines have their own weird beliefs
Is sanginus written well or was he a Mary sue? Like what were people thinking of him back when the books were coming out
I haven’t read much into him besides all the primarchs liked him, the emperor loved him, the chaos gods WANTED him
And about how perfect he was
half of all stellaris convos do lmao
ofc the game is often a galactic genocide simulator so thats to be expected
I’ll have you know the synaptic lathe is helping make the galaxy a better place
Ignore the entire planets worth of people im feeding to it
lmao
Their brains are being used as processing power for a better future
Smh
Can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs
Man Tau really don't leave much room for homebrew huh
Probably the strictest branch of lore I've seen from 40k
@storm jungle is this true
Yeah they’re
Really fucking tight lol
Bro is starting to sound like armstrong
oh, i saw a YT short that pointed out that in sm2 the cadians that kept fighting when the ksons opened the warp rift all had purple eyes and the dude said the purple eyes gave them a higher level of resistance to the warp
any lore to collaborate that?
also, how long was it between the fall of cadia and the defense of vigalis?
no, all the cadians ingame have purple eyes in general as well
lol
except for the chaos cultists playing among us
pretty sure it's just that purple eyed cadians have more willpower than normal
there's no real lore on the purple eyes
as far as I know
but all the cadian models in game have them
lol
yeah it's just mutation
they dont actually
through exposure
the ones in the campaign do as far as I can tell
the ones that go crazy have grey eyes
well
them excluded
but all the cadian NPCs
that are "active"
have purple eyes
Wait a minute was there a time where their purple eyes was brought up in an argument considering them as mutants?
yeah that was what he was saying
No but like
I'm including
all the campaign missions
everytime cadians show up as allied NPCs
they have purple eyes
lol
yeah
Mean in that like has an inquisitor member of the ecclesiarchy or someone addressed their eyes as a bad omen or that they should not serve the imperium or shit like that
its more so just thats a weird mutation
maybe we should "breed it out" of the population
the Imperium never got around to it
it has become a mark of shame to some iirc
well good at least it doesn't immediately caused them to get annihilated on site
some see the cadians as failures that came apart at the last moment
non standard skin colors and eye colors are considerd fine
stuff like blue skin and shit
is fine
there is a whole world where everything and one is monochrome colored lol
its a popular tourist stop for the wealthy iirc
i see
so it's when you're growing extra stuff that's not human where it begins to Crumble
ye
like horns or an extra arm
it's when you're vomit inducing
a mockery of the human form
there's no real guidelines it's straight up just prejudice
minor cosmetic diviations of the human body are fine, extreme alterations of it are not
unless its stable enough to get labeled an abhuman
the main difference between an abhuman and a mutant is how useful the mutation can be
ogryn vs terminator? whod win
if weaponry is allowed i'd bet on the storm bolter
yeah
or power sword
but if it's straight hands
fist fight
an ogryn can literally suplex these things and literally snap their backs
so i guess ogryn win
it can honestly be a toss up but a good chunk of the time i think the Ogryn will win
terminator armour makes the wearer less agile without making them much stronger. the space marine would be losing a big part of his advantage imo
it depends on what type of ork in the Hierarchy
they can literally just grab a normal boy and tear it apart no problem
Nobs the second largest in the tribe and are usually eight to seven feet tall can rival and match a space though they are definitely less stronger than an ogryn they have enough strength to hurt it and are basically quicker and more skilled
A warboss that is on average height
is 10 feet
Nobs are basically same level of strength bit better all-rounder
Bosses are stronger
they will almost always win against an ogryn
because they have better skills in combat because of how they become war bosses is often through strength
against a non full grown ogryn i suppose
If the terminator doesn't have a power fist its a wash
Maybe it'll kill the Ogryn
but ehhh
Who would win:
Horus vs Goku
Goku
Goku Next question
oh yeah wolf
how are the Hedonites treated in AOS
with their god still locked up in the special prison
like do the other chaos followers look at them with scorn or still somehow respect them
mix
they're trying their best
to get slaanesh out of the box
and they're doing a rather decently good job at that right
Oh yeah I forgot it was himself that breaks the chains
i'm pretty sure of the awakening of Kragnos and the necro quake some of the chains snap right
idk honest but id like to see chaos gods vs the grand priest
I feel like Khorne would be able to make Goku his champion
"I hear you're pretty strong!"
and then he's offered an eternal battle against the strongest warriors of the galaxy's history
Goku would probably be pretty disappointed
ye
scariest part is if hes in ultra instinct and favoured by khorne then he wud be literally untouchable
Honestly he's pretty untouchable already at that point by 40k standards.
Hell, even just kiaoken goku would give any major character in 40k a run for their money.
dude...ultra instinct plus kaioken
How badly would end for a Chaos Space Marine who got possessed not by just one Daemon. But four Daemons of each respective Chaos Gods at once, because of a Word Bearer experiment to see how it would go.
The Movie: Split
Probably would explode due to the Daemon infighting
Buu-saga Goku is clearing 99% of the verse.
Planet-buster by himself at that point.
yeah even Krillin if he wanted to could obliterate an entire planet
Dragon ball Characters are bullshit like that
ultra instinct plus kaioken is way more scary
hell Piccolo could planet bust during the Saiyan saga lol
People always forget that Piccolo blew up the moon
So did the Mobian 6th Turn Traitor, Any given reason?
So odd question, but has that issue with Primaris marines not being able to use Firstborn stuff been sorted out in lore?
I think that was mostly just a tabletop mechanic thing, dunno if it was supported in lore
Being sent to warzones they got no credit out of for conquering and having most of their stuff buried in history books/being lied to by the Imperium while getting no respite etc.
Like there's not really a logical lore reason that a Primaris can't go inside of a Land Raider
Like I think Rhino they justified it as "Oh they're too big to fit because they're taller than Firstborn" but like a Land Raider is huge
Afaik not really a thing in lore beyond it not being apart of their selected wargear/tactics
Yeah they are trying their best to phase out Firstborn
Good
its been mostly successful minus like a few units

That is one sick POV shot
thats Sabre @ you the player
I'm just wondering if they'll make Rhinos only a CSM unit or they'll eventually remove that CSM as well.
Imo they’re probably just eventually release an updated model for loyalists
Maybe they'll give the Rhino to the guard.
The guard doesn’t really need it
Basically lore for Rhinos hasn’t changed at all, same for Land Raiders
They were just in a awkward spot with firstborn and primaris stuff
I'd say they'll probably just update the Rhino, my only question would be where does that leave the Sororitas Rhino because it's just a Sororitas Upgrade Sprue for the current SM Rhino
It’ll probably still work or they’ll make a new one
Yea like they either need to make sure the upgrade sprue is still compatible with the new one or also make a new Sororitas rhino, since otherwise they'll have to keep producing the old Rhino alongside the new one
Generally speaking they do a good job making a lot of old sprues compatible, I know new terminators could use old shoulder sprues for a lot of stuff and marines were similar for some pieces.
Isnt the Rhino pretty good as is?
having the vehicle mini effect where its kinda hard to call it ugly
It's not bad once it's built and painted, but it's quite a dated kit tbh
I think as long as it looks good its fine, because its basically just a hunk of metal.
its the same with eldar and guard vehicles etc
Damn, 2002
just checked lexi lmao
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Yea like it's not bad, just some rough mould lines and little gaps and annoying things during the build process
That show it's age
It holds up well but that doesn’t mean it can’t be updated eventually, I don’t think it’s a priority but I’d like it
Especially to resize it
I just like the idea of the guard getting rhinos and predators to boost their arsenals.
Rhinos and Predators are SM-only vehicles
guard used to have rhinos (like every faction) back in the day but we are past that now
Guard don’t lack vehicles anyways
Idk why they’d need more
Yea they had like a Command Rhino I think it was, basically a mobile command post for their Officers
Yeah they basically got every single needless variant aplenty lol
Land Raider Excelsior my beloved.
that aint no Stan Lee Raider
Nox Alpha was really fucking bad. Think entire months-long campaigns fought in near nighttime darkness. Insect-filled swamps so dense with foliage it takes psykers to warn of enemy troops approaching.
Add in the ever-present Nox Rot that bloats your troops to the point they burst open with maggots, single assaults that result in thousands of casualties in minutes, poor supplies and terrible leadership.
Also Rinda and her squad were straight up just eating your buddies for food.
I forgot they were deployed to Detroit
Ok but when you are you gonna get to the reasons?
“Reason to turn traitor? Sounds like excuses to be a lil bitch.”
I bet they didn’t even maintain uniform standards that whole time either
On the subject of guard vehicles too I do love how many variants of the Baneblade and Leman Russ there are even if inevitably most get left behind because there’s tooo many
Also the naming conventions for the Baneblade are great
Is there an arty baneblade variant?
Arty?
This is a rough list of the variants we know of
Some don’t have models and only are given what their weapon is
Chaos was speaking to the troops every time they closed their eyes, whispering and mocking them whenever they slept. Wolfer—a very well-respected officer in the 6th—would be converted by chaos during this time. His closest subordinates turned with him, those that stayed loyal would end up murdered when the time came.
Colonel Gortun, the Moebian 6ths CO, would later die, and Wolfer would publicly turn traitor shortly after. Wolfer's betrayal would roll up the entire loyalist faction, slaughtering them to a man.
Nope.
Most you get is long-range barreled ones but they arent really for artillery more just single target elimination
Depends on what you consider to be artillery but some definitely can act as it
Did this come out along side the primaris or before them?
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I think that’s older
Primaris has been a term they've used for a while
Not way later but like a year before
Before it was a Space Marine thing
Also this yeah
like Primaris Psyker etc
Primaris would have been in the pipe as far as GW saw but yeah Primaris is a term used in universe for a lot of things
What about a baneblade coated with missile launchers?
Artillery usually translates = Thing with Big Long Barrel Used to Bombard
its what i was going off of
I did not see the image the first time.
And that's just fan models..
What happens if a warlock/seer fucks off and becomes a corsair/ranger? Are they treated like just another guy?
I think by the time they’re a warlock they’re generally pretty stuck on that path
But if they aren’t then yeah basically
They won’t be using magic stuff anymore but lots of Eldar bounce around between roles like that
That being said stuff like the Path of the Seer aren’t as common and tend to end up being their “final paths”
Better than becoming a Corsair Prince, those guys are the Eldar equivalents of 50 year olds who still hang around teenagers
They'll usually be assigned a role that befits their station like a Void Dreamer.
if they dont wanna be a psyker they'll just become either a Ranger or any other unit type


