Fair
I think Nurgle would keep him alive and basically torture him in hopes of turning him towards him
Deactivating and reactivating diseases
#40k-lore-chat
opaque coyote
spare osprey
Yeah plus he’ll just force you to serve him at some point
opaque coyote
Like one day, the pain is gone
The next day it comes back in full force
queen laurel
I don't think something that looks similar to that would be human
small grail
Fair
I think Nurgle would keep him alive and basically torture him in hopes of ...
makes him have visions of his parents still being alive to try and break him by the way
opaque coyote
I'm not sure whether that is
A mutant
A daemon
Or both
small grail
I don't think something that looks similar to that would be human
imagination is powerful
crystal forum
also a galaxy in flames is already the name of a horus heresy book if you didn't do that on purpose
small grail
also a galaxy in flames is already the name of a horus heresy book if you didn't...
is it?
crystal forum
yes lol
fallen plaza
Call it space on fire instead
small grail
Call it space on fire instead
mm idk
spare osprey
Yeah plus he’ll just force you to serve him at some point
There’s this one marine who got nurgle’s rot and when he died he just came back as a super smart zombie or whatever
small grail
sure but it needs to have more oomph u know
spare osprey
There’s this one marine who got nurgle’s rot and when he died he just came back ...
Started serving the black legion
His name escapes me
opaque coyote
Looks sick.
Literally
Imagine if he was still "aware"
Just
Constantly in agony
Imagine if this MF said "Hi"
spare osprey
His name escapes me
Never mind found him lol, Corpulax
crystal forum
usually characters who can use warp given power without submitting to the gods are extremely resilient like abaddon and perturabo
small grail
I don't think something that looks similar to that would be human
meant to say that he kinda has deformities that are slowly gettin like worse as per the image u gave is the worst case
gray umbra
Ah yes his bolter muzzle device is a sphincter
fallen plaza
Anal muzzle
small grail
usually characters who can use warp given power without submitting to the gods a...
he has deformities but him resisting is basically still causing him a slow death
spare osprey
Ah yes his bolter muzzle device is a sphincter
Drops a deuce everytime he shoots
crystal forum
he has deformities but him resisting is basically still causing him a slow death
and he's not a psyker right?
small grail
and he's not a psyker right?
no
psyker more susceptible to easy possession
just made him human cuz he resisting thru pure will
the indomitable human will as per the meme
crystal forum
i think an issue i'd have with your story from a character perspective is your guy doesn't seem to make any friends or allies
he's just solo tanking this shit
small grail
i think an issue i'd have with your story from a character perspective is your g...
aint easy with constnat mental torture
and the deformities make him kinda like heretic so
imperium is mega religious right so
dusk patrol
Ah yes his bolter muzzle device is a sphincter
A Buttholter if you will
small grail
i cud be wrong but yea
crystal forum
even the soul drinkers left together as a group when they were declared heretics
eisenhorn too
spare osprey
and the deformities make him kinda like heretic so
He could be a plumber
small grail
He could be a plumber
damn mario moment
crystal forum
in fact if it werent for his allies eisenhorn would have died to torture
small grail
even the soul drinkers left together as a group when they were declared heretics
didnt know that
small grail
eisenhorn too
neither that
small grail
well as hemmingway said the first draft of anything is shit
crystal forum
yeah dont worry this is just feedback
small grail
yeah dont worry this is just feedback
nah i get that but its the first draft so yea\
spare osprey
I honestly gotta start writing my rough draft. I’m in creative writing for a reason
small grail
no worries actually glad yall told me
crystal forum
other than that i'd mark the passage of time more clearly but that's obviously something you'd add later
small grail
but leaving the plot points how is the story writing @crystal forum as far as what u read
i wrote this during COVID
crystal forum
from what i read it's a good start
but again adding more "fragile" characters would help the reader actually care about people dying ya know?
spare osprey
i wrote this during COVID
Autobiography moment
crystal forum
your guy is in the one punch man situation
small grail
kinda
but the rought thing is
nurgle keeps on giving images that his parents arrre alive specifically his mom before brutally deforming aand damaging them in his eyes
kinda like the blood angels black rage where they see only horus right
but he just sees his parents die over and over again
once in a while like the rage
crystal forum
how does this help your guy's character development
small grail
how does this help your guy's character development
had a seperate thing with that
will send when i found it
again is my first draft
but in a moral standpoint i feel like i made him suffer a bit too much just a tiny bit
crystal forum
suffering is ok if it serves a purpose. you just dont want to be stuck in the position where you're just making him suffer so the reader cares more
small grail
if u think this guys over powered i shudve shown u Damien
he absorbed a portion of all 4 chaos gods energy
was a beast
crystal forum
it's okay to have a very powerful character as long as they can be defeated by the antagonist
small grail
he absorbed a portion of all 4 chaos gods energy
this guy was more like castigator in a way
small grail
it's okay to have a very powerful character as long as they can be defeated by t...
guiliman took him down
this timeline was like after the heresy
one fatal weakness he had
fallen plaza
Is he was too cool
small grail
khornes energy gave him a violent alter ego
versed ledge
So why can't we have rejuvenat treatment for characters in DT?
small grail
like angron cant distinguish between friend and fooe when he fights sorta works the same
fallen plaza
So why can't we have rejuvenat treatment for characters in DT?
Too poor
versed ledge
Are we doomed to forever look like grumpy 40 year old men and women?
small grail
like angron cant distinguish between friend and fooe when he fights sorta works ...
but the alter ego wud cause his powers to get higly unstable
crystal forum
like angron cant distinguish between friend and fooe when he fights sorta works ...
it's not that he can't it's that he doesn't care where the blood comes from
small grail
but the alter ego wud cause his powers to get higly unstable
this being the main issue
crystal forum
Are we doomed to forever look like grumpy 40 year old men and women?
the average 300 year old imperial look around that age
small grail
wud ccause him to kinda like overheat
crystal forum
eisenhorn book says it anlot
versed ledge
the average 300 year old imperial look around that age
Warp jumps don't count
crystal forum
no i mean with rejuvinat and all that
fallen plaza
d u m p i t
small grail
i had a name
crystal forum
but the alter ego wud cause his powers to get higly unstable
you should get into horus heresy since your style of character would fit better in the era imo
fallen plaza
the rage was called like Hellish Bloodlust or something
That was the name your just shy to say you liked the name lol
small grail
you should get into horus heresy since your style of character would fit better ...
already have one
small grail
That was the name your just shy to say you liked the name lol
not really its a bad name i get that
but i was outta ideas
small grail
you should get into horus heresy since your style of character would fit better ...
that one is significantly bad written
i wrote that when i was eating food
crystal forum
you're not george RR martin man it's ok to be clumsy 
small grail
you're not george RR martin man it's ok to be clumsy <:B_DogCheemsSmile:73122390...
no no i mean like he has way more plotholes than the one i just showed u
like as big as a blackhole
arctic talon
So why can't we have rejuvenat treatment for characters in DT?
No one’s rich enough but Brahms and the vendors lol
Even then
Maybe not even them
Brahms and grendyl are the only 2 that’ll 100% get rejuvenat treatments
versed ledge
Damn.
small grail
scariest one i made @crystal forum waas a dude who injured Nurgle like a mortal wound
versed ledge
I just wanted to look like my favorite old terran moe kpop star whilst slaying heretics
crystal forum
scariest one i made <@334401214437654531> waas a dude who injured Nurgle like a ...
interacting directly with a chaos god in 40k is big nono
in fantasy you can tho
small grail
interacting directly with a chaos god in 40k is big nono
ye
i know but like
that was one scary mf i made
queen laurel
in fantasy you can tho
in both settings you can interact with the gods what
small grail
just imagine like vulkan and alexis pollux combined height and build
crystal forum
in both settings you can interact with the gods what
not directly, especially not as a mortal. even kaldor draigo doesnt
small grail
massive fucker
queen laurel
not directly, especially not as a mortal. even kaldor draigo doesnt
oh you mean that
Yeah most of the interactions you get from chaos gods are just messages and that's it
crystal forum
like touching them i mean lol
rocky gale
When writing stories it's important to keep track of scale, if your OC is punching God you're probably going too far.
queen laurel
like touching them i mean lol
or witnessing their true form
small grail
ive made like 5 characters
queen laurel
When writing stories it's important to keep track of scale, if your OC is punchi...
Warhammer 40K has a huge issue with this
small grail
When writing stories it's important to keep track of scale, if your OC is punchi...
yea knew that when i read it
queen laurel
everything is so massive and so big there are a good amount of details get lost in it
crystal forum
or witnessing their true form
the closest we got to that is the grey knight who saw slaanesh and that's just a myth
spare osprey
In this sense
queen laurel
the closest we got to that is the grey knight who saw slaanesh and that's just a...
it wasn't even her true form it was just a child
that she decided to take form of
spare osprey
In this sense
Is it fair to have a character (or group) that a god has a personal issue with?
Or that a bit much
small grail
When writing stories it's important to keep track of scale, if your OC is punchi...
worst part was like he did a near cleave on nurgle so huge no no
spare osprey
Or that a bit much
I say personal by the gods standards, they’re as impersonal as you can get
crystal forum
Is it fair to have a character (or group) that a god has a personal issue with?
yeah chaos gods grant blessings and shit all the time but like it's always indirectly
queen laurel
yeah chaos gods grant blessings and shit all the time but like it's always indir...
There are very few times where they watch you 24/7 and it's only really when you're like a very important champion
Valkia was always popular because she had the literal gaze of Khorne
spare osprey
yeah chaos gods grant blessings and shit all the time but like it's always indir...
So if someone say, goes against Tzeentch’s grand plan, it’s fair to say he’d go to lengths to reaffirm it?
small grail
Valkia was always popular because she had the literal gaze of Khorne
whats that?
rocky gale
Is it fair to have a character (or group) that a god has a personal issue with?
It's fine for Gods to have issues with mortal, you can track a lot of stories back to the Ancient Greeks where the issue is Mortal annoys Gods, Gods do something, Heroes have to go on quest.
And in the process they may counter the will of the gods or spite them or do something against their plans etc, but direct confrontations nevermind winning is typically unheard of.
crystal forum
There are very few times where they watch you 24/7 and it's only really when you...
ye it happens in fall of cadia when the khorne champion becomes semi prince but all we see is khorne watching him slaughter, not much more
and the moment he stops khorne stops watching
queen laurel
whats that?
basically Valkia was so well liked by khorne he decided to bring her back and keep an eye on her 24/7 because he likes her
spare osprey
It's fine for Gods to have issues with mortal, you can track a lot of stories ba...
Yeah I’m just tryna comfortably explain why my fallen are having time issues.
small grail
basically Valkia was so well liked by khorne he decided to bring her back and ke...
does it like cause peoples heads to blow up
queen laurel
does it like cause peoples heads to blow up
no it causes their battle frenzy to be a lot more pronounced
Basically making them borderline feral Barbarians
small grail
ah
crystal forum
So if someone say, goes against Tzeentch’s grand plan, it’s fair to say he’d go ...
if they stop actively working for the gods then they'll just stop getting more blessings and support. they'll still keep whatever blessings they already had tho
the gods dont really take back stuff unless they really want to
small grail
@crystal forum the dude who i said gave nurgle a mortal wound is a big nono right?
crystal forum
<@334401214437654531> the dude who i said gave nurgle a mortal wound is a big no...
your guy would be more powerful than the emperor
i think that speaks for itself
small grail
uh huh
rocky gale
The Odyssey is a good example, the entire plot is basically Gods are fucking with this crew and stopping them from being able to sail home. But at no point do they directly confront the Gods, they just have to deal with the issues that arise and overcome them until they figure out a way to get home again.
queen laurel
<@334401214437654531> the dude who i said gave nurgle a mortal wound is a big no...
Your character can basically conquer the imperium at that point
spare osprey
if they stop actively working for the gods then they'll just stop getting more b...
Say it’s more like, loyalists doing something that “wasn’t supposed to happen” like not being somewhere they should’ve been according to his “plan”.
queen laurel
wounding a chaos god that is known to be the most durable?
that is just absolutely crazy
small grail
Your character can basically conquer the imperium at that point
nurgles th toughest right?
like durability
spare osprey
nurgles th toughest right?
Pretty much
queen laurel
nurgles th toughest right?
yeah relatively speaking
he is the god of disease decay and despair
and one of the traits his followers have are being tougher than an old boot
crystal forum
Say it’s more like, loyalists doing something that “wasn’t supposed to happen” l...
well i can speak from what soul drinkers do. it's a greater demon that gives them powers and stuff the whole time and the moment they realize this they kill him. afterwards they keep the mutations they got but didnt receive any extra blessings, despite actively fighting chaos
it's rare for chaos gods to show direct interest
it's usually the demons who do that
small grail
there is pne dude i have made
crystal forum
oh also the soul drinkers greater demon is a tzeentch one
since he makes them turn against the imperium
small grail
there is pne dude i have made
he uh....was the emperors brother...elder brother
queen laurel
he uh....was the emperors brother...elder brother
well
small grail
yea.....
queen laurel
that's certainly an idea
small grail
i mean i did make a full fledged story on him...
shud i sned him
i didnt hate it....but like....its a bit of a stretch but wud it work @queen laurel
small grail
chat i wanna fight against slaanesh
wear a condom just in case
glossy hare
🙏
small grail
but yea @queen laurel wud it work
queen laurel
chat i wanna fight against slaanesh
congratulations now your blood will be used as red paint for an art piece depicting a kid eating her own pet
queen laurel
but yea <@783504501561753651> wud it work
I don't know The thing is you are basically altering a very much part of the setting here but it is your story so I can kind of let it slide but if I were you I would ask someone who is expert on the topic
small grail
I don't know The thing is you are basically altering a very much part of the set...
whos the expert?
who do i ask
crystal forum
the stronger your character the harder it will be to make them believable in the setting
queen laurel
whos the expert?
everyone here besides me because i do not really care about the imperium
small grail
not askin that just who do u think specifically
crystal forum
having a normal dude fight stuff like nid gaunts is easier to write
small grail
the stronger your character the harder it will be to make them believable in the...
thois guy is the emperors brother.....elder...brother
crystal forum
you can also just not do that
crystal forum
just look at tanith books. one of the most popular series of normal people fighting shit. occasionally they kill stuff like chaos marines but that's hard by itself
people care about the characters because they can actually die, and they do
small grail
just look at tanith books. one of the most popular series of normal people fight...
what ive created is catastrophical bro
like setting wise
queen laurel
how bad do you think id get fuked up if i postedn it
a lot of people who probably roast you i'm gonna be honest with you, you're giving the emperor who is basically without even fail one of the main attractions of the setting a major change
you're giving him an elder brother
i couldn't give less because i don't care for the emperor but
I can see a good chunk of people not liking the idea
small grail
id be screwed
small grail
I can see a good chunk of people not liking the idea
its catastrophical like i said
crystal forum
40k fans are rabid. i'd recommend not posting it on a reddit
queen laurel
yeah
queen laurel
If you're gonna commit to the idea get the hell away from a reddit or X
small grail
If you're gonna commit to the idea get the hell away from a reddit or X
already know that
queen laurel
already know that
good because you will not have to worry about anything from me because I will not read it I am not an imperial fan
small grail
good because you will not have to worry about anything from me because I will no...
he uh....felll to chaos
queen laurel
he uh....felll to chaos
oh boy
small grail
yea......
queen laurel
you are cooking an explosive chemical here
small grail
so likke....how fucked am i
dusk patrol
I mean being real it sounds like bad fanfic
queen laurel
so likke....how fucked am i
We are a bit forgiving here but what your cooking is on my honest opinion just a bit too risky
yeah
dusk patrol
That’s all there is to it
small grail
you are cooking an explosive chemical here
he uh.....kinda gave the primarchs who turned to chaos a nudge closer
queen laurel
he uh.....kinda gave the primarchs who turned to chaos a nudge closer
you are not making this look better i am gonna be honest
wintry scarab
What is that? A crux terminatus?
dusk patrol
Idk, you can write what you want but it sounds goofy to me
small grail
you are not making this look better i am gonna be honest
im....not....messing around
queen laurel
im....not....messing around
yes i know but like i said everyone here really does not care what you write it's up to you
small grail
a bit goofy
when i say elder i dont mean like 2 years or 1 years
i mean like a chunk
queen laurel
when i say elder i dont mean like 2 years or 1 years
yeah uh, i am going to be honest here i am completely unable to help you on this topic
dusk patrol
What is that? A crux terminatus?
Looks like it’s a roughly detailed one yeah
Ignore the circle
small grail
yes i know but like i said everyone here really does not care what you write it'...
i do get that i just want an opinion on how bad it cud affect
queen laurel
i do get that i just want an opinion on how bad it cud affect
like i said pretty bad if you make other people see it
if you're just planning to post it here we're gonna be mostly fine
crystal forum
the crux terminatus from the SM2 pre order is so detailed it makes me feel ashamed of the ones i just painted gold
small grail
like i said pretty bad if you make other people see it
pandoras box moment
fallen plaza
i do get that i just want an opinion on how bad it cud affect
Just post it on reddit
Its fine
crystal forum
i legit thought the crux was just a piece of metal
small grail
if you're just planning to post it here we're gonna be mostly fine
u never know theres a lotta people
small grail
Just post it on reddit
aint no way im gonna do that
fallen plaza
Even if you get backlash its fine
small grail
next thing u know ill be getting executed in a reddit vvid
fallen plaza
aint no way im gonna do that
A lot of people when they try and critique they try and be fake nice
So my suggestion is go and visit other platforms to get multiple perspectives
small grail
mhm
fallen plaza
So you’ll find a person that will give you good advice
small grail
Its a start
good or bad
onyx remnant
aint no way im gonna do that
Ey bro it's fine, my setting is even more diabolical.
small grail
Ey bro it's fine, my setting is even more diabolical.
dont think u get the gravity
of the situation'
onyx remnant
You'll be fine - like I have a story where I just decided to add a shit ton of xianxia elements into 40K.
small grail
You'll be fine - like I have a story where I just decided to add a shit ton of x...
mhm
storm jungle
What is that? A crux terminatus?
Its a generic iron cross
its on a lot of Marine minis, what Eternal posted is more accurate for the pauldron segment.
fallen plaza
gray umbra
The power chair
winter vessel
Hey look! An SM2 weapon leak
dusk patrol
opaque coyote
"GROTS, SQUIGS, BOYZ, AND SLAVES. WELKOME TO GORK N MORK SPORTZ. TODAY WE HAV TWO OPPONENTS FACING EACH OTHER.
IN DIS CORNER, WEIGHING A LOT, WITH CLAWZ THAT CAN CRUSH EADS. IT'S CRUSHCLAW THRONESITTA
AND IN THIS CORNER, ALSO WEIGHING A LOT. HAVING GOOD SKRAPS MOLDED INTO ARMOR. IT'S THE BIG. HUMIIEEE."
"My title is Brother S-"
"I DON'T CARE. LET THE FOIGHT. BEGIN!"
DING DING DING
fallen plaza
"GROTS, SQUIGS, BOYZ, AND SLAVES. WELKOME TO GORK N MORK SPORTZ. TODAY WE HAV TW...
Captain tightass
opaque coyote
His cake shall murder the xenos
dusk patrol
Bayards Revenge is such a good model
opaque coyote
Also it is my headcanon that Krorks used to have a posh British accent
opaque coyote
It do be
I can imagine the Ork sputtering out
"Respectable Choppa"
Right before dying
fallen plaza
It’s like Seth’s Evicerator, fucking marine sized chain sword
That is a really good face sculpt wow
opaque coyote
Cause if there are three things in the world that Orks like
It's Choppas, Shootas, and Fighting
shadow plover
Seen so many good kitbashes of it
Friend is making such a cool diorama from this with a Hive Tyrant and submitting it to Golden Demon this year, really hoping that he places with it
opaque coyote
It’s like Seth’s Evicerator, fucking marine sized chain sword
Yeah I learned a while back that Eviscerators actually have a minor power fiekd
To help cut through enemies
So now I'm just imagining a Power Eviscerator
fallen plaza
Friend is making such a cool diorama from this with a Hive Tyrant and submitting...
Ive seen your work on the vt2 server, im curious whats his
dusk patrol
Some do at least, seems like the better crafted ones do
fallen plaza
Cause your really good at it
dusk patrol
It’s not a consistent trait but yeah
opaque coyote
Giant chainsaw with lightning coursing through it is cool
dusk patrol
It do be
shadow plover
I don't think I'm allowed to share pics of it before the event, you'll see then
dusk patrol
There’s a reason they can be used as anti vehicle weapons
fallen plaza
I don't think I'm allowed to share pics of it before the event, you'll see then
Maybe his previous work then?
Just to get an idea
shadow plover
I can later, at a SM2 mission atm
opaque coyote
Also as a genuine question
shadow plover
and he is leagues above me in skill 
bold rampart
better question, do females exist?
shadow plover
Do female Kriegers exist
they do
opaque coyote
better question, do females exist?
No, I'm talking about fiction here
storm jungle
Do female Kriegers exist
Yeah they do
opaque coyote
Yeah they do
Neat
storm jungle
the Siege of Vraks book (its awful) confirms it
basically Krieg is literally just
2 parents go to a vitae womb
drop their genetic material into it
opaque coyote
Yeah it's not like you can tell behind the masks and the baggy clothing
storm jungle
kids either male or female get made
dusk patrol
Pretty hot ngl
opaque coyote
basically Krieg is literally just
Has anybody done it the natural way or is it like
Not allowed
dusk patrol
Just pay someone else to do it
opaque coyote
For some reason
dusk patrol
What are you, a poor?
storm jungle
its not said but we can assume vitae-womb is the "standard" procedure.
All Krieg is worth for is soldiers
and the populace is brainwashed to this mindset
they see no use for making kids beyond war the "fast way" id say
opaque coyote
but also man i wish giving birth was that easy, rip women aka me
Bro I once saw some random Facebook mom post that the human body is too perfect to be made by nature
dusk patrol
Thinking of Kriegers fucking is somehow more disturbing anyways
opaque coyote
BITCH THERE ARE SO MANY FLAWS IN THE HUMAN BODY
opaque coyote
Yeah like you
death
But seriously though. If God made humanity, then we were a rush job for sure
storm jungle
BITCH THERE ARE SO MANY FLAWS IN THE HUMAN BODY
the human body is pretty much genetically evolutionized to be near "good enough"
its why for example if something gets stuck on your throat you just choke
the body evolved to that point where it says "yeah this is servicable"
opaque coyote
the human body is pretty much genetically evolutionized to be near "good enough"
Yeah the human body is amazing at times
But then there's parts like the spine
queen laurel
the human body is pretty much genetically evolutionized to be near "good enough"
We can't take a bullet like a rhino we can sure as shit make a machine strong enough to decapitate a rhino with a single shot
storm jungle
Yeah its funny to think if you slip and fall wrong you'll just snap or die lol
fallen plaza
the Siege of Vraks book (its awful) confirms it
Are any of the imperial armor tie in books good?
opaque coyote
Yeah its funny to think if you slip and fall wrong you'll just snap or die lol
Honestly it's why the Mechanicus are truly the good guys of the setting
...
If you ignore literally everything about them except the cool shit
dusk patrol
Are any of the imperial armor tie in books good?
Uh…
There’s not really that many tbh
queen laurel
Yeah its funny to think if you slip and fall wrong you'll just snap or die lol
Then you see people surviving beatings having their arms cut off and even a little Shard of metal being stuck in their head
opaque coyote
Jokes aside. Fuck it, give me an advanced metal spine.
dusk patrol
Badab will probably suck when they inevitably do it
opaque coyote
Then you see people surviving beatings having their arms cut off and even a litt...
Yeah there are people that are born that literally have like
Parts of their brain missing
But they're just
Completely fine and functional
dusk patrol
Yeah there are people that are born that literally have like
people
You can jsut say yourse- ok that’s low hanging fruit
opaque coyote
Like they have jobs and shit. They don't have any disabilities
fallen plaza
You sure about that?
opaque coyote
You can jsut say yourse- ok that’s low hanging fruit
Fortunately I don't have a part of my brain missing.
It is instead replaced by depression
fallen plaza
How about i scan your brain
storm jungle
Are any of the imperial armor tie in books good?
I shared my friend's review from awhile ago, like the book is just so boring.
opaque coyote
storm jungle
Lyons himself which GW somehow let slip said he didnt even wanna write this book lol
opaque coyote
I shared my friend's review from awhile ago, like the book is just so boring.
60% of the 40k books are slop
storm jungle
Yeah unfortunately.
opaque coyote
Sci Fi slop
fallen plaza
60% of the 40k books are slop
Amazing observation
queen laurel
60% of the 40k books are slop
yep
opaque coyote
Amazing observation
Yes I truly have eyes
fallen plaza
Its not like we have been saying it in this chat for a billion times
storm jungle
I mean
opaque coyote
Its not like we have been saying it in this chat for a billion times
Billion and one now
storm jungle
it is, most people are legit going into BL expecting peak fiction
then we tell them the truth
and they just go "oh"
lol
opaque coyote
But seriously I started actually reading like a year ago
fallen plaza
Ive only read the first three hh books
gray umbra
The first three are solid
fallen plaza
I feel like I shouldn’t read any further
storm jungle
My friend's reaction regarding that will never leave me
opaque coyote
And it is a mixed bag of quality.
Like you can either get trash or peak
opaque coyote
No inbetween for 40k tbh
gray umbra
Then you get shit like burning of prospero where half of it is magnus having an acid trip through the warp
Sorry a thousand sons*
queen laurel
"Why are the other books so boring?"
torture further by introducing him to nick kyme
storm jungle
No inbetween for 40k tbh
yeah thats what happens when the strategy for Black Library is throwing shit at a wall and see what sticks
queen laurel
show him what boring truly means
storm jungle
the aim of these books is to essentially to get you to buy minis
so their quality control sucks
crystal forum
it is, most people are legit going into BL expecting peak fiction
it's action shlock what else is there to expect
storm jungle
it's action shlock what else is there to expect
Actual good writing.
opaque coyote
Then you get shit like burning of prospero where half of it is magnus having an ...
"Welp if my dad's gonna murder me anyways.
Time to huff some warp dust I got from a bipedal rat"
dusk patrol
crystal forum
it's what i expect
queen laurel
not all of BL is schlock
yeah black library has some good authors
crystal forum
shlock can be good
dusk patrol
I love this format
storm jungle
it's what i expect
yeah but you are dumb
crystal forum
just nothing deep
storm jungle
opaque coyote
this is just a weak defense
Yeah tbf people usually expect at least well written shlock
Or at least something interesting
storm jungle
Pretty much this too lol
like ive met dark angels fans who were going psycho over how repetitive their novels are
fallen plaza
yeah but you are dumb
Okay sloppa
crystal forum
i will eat ben counter's shlock any day
storm jungle
Okay sloppa
Okay 30k gawk-gawk-gawker
opaque coyote
I mean Ian Watson's books are
Interesting despite the fact that they make me want to kill myself every time I read them
queen laurel
Yeah tbf people usually expect at least well written shlock
there are two types of action shlock, Michael Bay and an actually good one
opaque coyote
Watson's are whatever.
Too much purple prose
dusk patrol
Hey fuck you Michael Bay has some good movies
young pecan
I mean Ian Watson's books are
Interesting despite the fact that they make me wa...
In a good way or bad way
fallen plaza
I mean Ian Watson's books are
Interesting despite the fact that they make me wa...
You should keep reading them, see how well it goes
storm jungle
Hey fuck you Michael Bay has some good movies
TF1 is PEAK
dusk patrol
Not a ton of recent ones
opaque coyote
In a good way or bad way
Yes
crystal forum
im 31 ive read much worse things lol
i read i am legend and i hated it
dusk patrol
But he has good movies
gray umbra
The only memorable part of the dark angels book is zahariels backstory before caliban got taken by the imperium
gray umbra
Afterwards it was just zzzz
opaque coyote
You should keep reading them, see how well it goes
Nah how about you do it first
dusk patrol
The Rock, Pain and Gain
gray umbra
Bomb plot zzz
queen laurel
Hey fuck you Michael Bay has some good movies
I didn't say everything he makes is bad I'm just saying that nowadays let's be honest most of his stuff are just straight up mindless action
storm jungle
Bomb plot zzz
Fallen Fallen Fallen Fallen Revenge of the Fallen
dusk patrol
I would agreed
opaque coyote
i read i am legend and i hated it
We all can have opinions
Even if they objectively suc-
dusk patrol
Especially his recent stuff largely
young pecan
TF1 is PEAK
Transformers 1 end credits being Paralyzer got stuck in my head
Was my favorite song as a kid
dusk patrol
Isn’t it
opaque coyote
Fallen Fallen Fallen Fallen Revenge of the Fallen
Fallen?
When will they stand up?
Canned laugh track here
crystal forum
We all can have opinions
Even if they objectively suc-
explain to me what's good about it
fallen plaza
Did anyone remember watching balls of fury
crystal forum
dusk patrol
the Linkin Park song
dusk patrol
WHAT IVE DOOONNEEE
crystal forum
it's straight up the worst twist i've ever read in a book
storm jungle
okay thats exaggerating lol
languid meadow
WHAT IVE DOOONNEEE
fallen plaza
WHAT IVE DOOONNEEE
Im an inventor!
storm jungle
its not an amazing book but that is a bad take
storm jungle
Im an inventor!
SHUT UP
crystal forum
the twist just sucks
dusk patrol
https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-1...
Unironically yes
storm jungle
also I love how like
crystal forum
"maybe we were the monsters all along" 😴
storm jungle
it takes the autobots 4 movies to learn humanity wants to wipe them out
dusk patrol
I actually think TF1 is one of the most iconic endings to a movie in terms of, there’s nothing but the style of it really
queen laurel
TF1 is PEAK
https://youtu.be/IHLGGkX2Qmo?t=182 he did make one of the best war crime segment in cinema so that is something
storm jungle
"maybe we were the monsters all along" 😴
its an old book, tf were you expecting
storm jungle
https://youtu.be/IHLGGkX2Qmo?t=182 he did make one of the best war crime segmen...
Okay that scene is good too
languid meadow
the first 3 movies are peak 2000s cinema
storm jungle
imperial knights fighting ahh scene
opaque coyote
explain to me what's good about it
Ending
Vampire zombies
Vampire zombies
I just find vampire zombies cool sue me
opaque coyote
it takes the autobots 4 movies to learn humanity wants to wipe them out
Optimus Prime unintentionally got an interesting arc
crystal forum
they had to pad the book i bought with random short stories to make the story look longer
queen laurel
imperial knights fighting ahh scene
the imperial knight when fighting three chaos knights and he suddenly remembers his ancestors calling him a Coward
storm jungle
they had to pad the book i bought with random short stories to make the story lo...
my guy is reading a book from 1950's and expecting peak literature
opaque coyote
I say unintentionally since I don't believe Michael Bay really uh
Thought it through
storm jungle
have some funny bones in your body
dusk patrol
https://youtu.be/IHLGGkX2Qmo?t=182 he did make one of the best war crime segmen...
Basically every Transformers movie
“Optimus, bad guys are trying to kill the humans or your friends!”
autobot dies
Optimus: 😠
Cue montage of him soloing half the decepticon army
opaque coyote
But yeah Optimus went from trying to be friendly to humanity and hold up his ideals
crystal forum
my guy is reading a book from 1950's and expecting peak literature
i just find it funny that they make it look longer by adding random ass short stories after lol
opaque coyote
To just
storm jungle
Basically every Transformers movie
“Optimus, bad guys are trying to kill the hu...
also Optimus being a fucking space marine tier psychopath is so goddamn hilarious
"GIVE ME YOUR FACE."
opaque coyote
Going batshit after half of his friends died
storm jungle
"I RISE. YOU FALL."
crystal forum
like i shit you not half the book is short stories
opaque coyote
also Optimus being a fucking space marine tier psychopath is so goddamn hilariou...
He did bring out some banger quotes
dusk patrol
Optimus is low key unhinged as fuck, right after he talks about peace and love and getting along
queen laurel
https://youtu.be/-u5CTkgJVgA?si=Q-B026OgGQcMtYJV and as always as devastator is always premium
storm jungle
Optimus is low key unhinged as fuck, right after he talks about peace and love a...
"You have betrayed yourself"
"NOOO OPTIMUS-AUGHHH"
languid meadow
optimus just doing warcrimes in 3
fallen plaza
I’ve actually heard the comics are decent
fallen plaza
Some of it is cringe though
dusk patrol
opaque coyote
"You have betrayed yourself"
I think this was him killing the murderer of his long lasting mentor and friend
fallen plaza
Who is that decepticon who has the decepticon symbol on his face?
dusk patrol
Like when he mercilessly executed Evil Robot Leonard Nimoy
And then killed Megatron right after
fallen plaza
He literally plays classical music to intimidate people
dusk patrol
WITH ONE ARM
fallen plaza
He is like such a gay edgelord
crystal forum
also dilara i dont dislike it because it's old. one of my favorite books is the andromeda strain and that book's twist SLAPS
opaque coyote
I’ve actually heard the comics are decent
The comics aren't masterpieces but they are pretty good
Then again I have a high tolerance for shlock
languid meadow
crystal forum
i love michael crichton in general
storm jungle
And then killed Megatron right after
its legit the most space marine but-not space marine shit ive watched
the original ending having Megatron and him having a truce is even funnier
hes such a psycho its amazing
opaque coyote
its legit the most space marine but-not space marine shit ive watched
I do admit
It is genuinely entertaining
Uncharacteristically so
But still
fallen plaza
In the newer movies he is kinda crazy too
storm jungle
Him fucking tearing megatron's face open
crystal forum
michael crichton is really good at making you terrified of nature and other shit you cant control
storm jungle
its why the Jurassic Park book is horrifying
fallen plaza
Enemy scrotum!
storm jungle
i remember reading it and its just
opaque coyote
Him fucking **tearing megatron's face open**
The classic old "if it's a robot, that means we can be as brutal as we can" excuse
opaque coyote
Samurai Jack moment
storm jungle
The classic old "if it's a robot, that means we can be as brutal as we can" excu...
THEY LITERALLY HAVE MEGATRON SPEW RED BLOOD
opaque coyote
THEY LITERALLY HAVE MEGATRON SPEW RED BLOOD
Nah oil trust
fallen plaza
opaque coyote
Just very red colored oil
crystal forum
i remember that one book where a bunch of people realistically get shrunk down to insect size and get cut in half by ants
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/transformers-simmons-enemy-enemyscrotum-john-turturro-gif...
Me about to take down an enemy titan with a meltabomb
opaque coyote
one of them gets stunk by a wasp and a wasp baby put in his arm
EWEWEWEW
queen laurel
hes such a psycho its amazing
https://youtu.be/vsUJteXWUyo?si=SouaZqpL4R5Dv951 Grindor Dilara Grindor
opaque coyote
Bro I would abort that shit by stabbing my arm several times
opaque coyote
AND IT SLOWLY GETS BIGGER THE WHOLE BOOK
BRO WHY
crystal forum
michael crichton is why
storm jungle
Chapter Master Optimus killing the evil irredeemable Decepticons
opaque coyote
WHY DOESN'T HE JUST STAB THE BABY
dusk patrol
It oddly isn’t as horrifying as it could have been either
languid meadow
woe compys attacking a baby upon ye
dusk patrol
Crichton has some great books
crystal forum
WHY DOESN'T HE JUST STAB THE BABY
it's his whole arm. like the wasp was bigger than him
opaque coyote
AN ABORTION READ TO GO THE OLD FASHIONED WA-
fallen plaza
crystal forum
the guy's a dickhead tho dont worry he dies torn apart by bats
crystal forum
one lady gets eaten by a bird
opaque coyote
EWEWWEW
crystal forum
like just a bird
opaque coyote
one lady gets eaten by a bird
Birdemic
crystal forum
cut in half by the beak
opaque coyote
crystal forum
there's this other book of his about nanobots
crystal forum
they're all great
dusk patrol
Eaters of the Dead and the Great Train Robbery
Completely disconnected but still amazing
dusk patrol
Yeah he’d just liked write a random period piece
In the middle of all this sci fi or wild space or dinosaur books
And it would be awesome
dusk patrol
I forgot he did that
crystal forum
not even a book he straight up wrote the screenplay
crystal forum
like even stephen king was dog shit at writing for movies. it's really hard
dusk patrol
The only ones whose close with adapted screenplays is probably Stephen King and unlike him he can write an ending lol
languid meadow
God bless the mist
crystal forum
underrated movie yeah
dusk patrol
Frank Darabont’s career is frustrating with how much bigger he should be
As well as he’s done
languid meadow
One of the few pieces of media where I enjoyed the adaptation more than the novel, the other being the METRO series.
crystal forum
isn't the metro novel just action shlock
fallen plaza
https://www.instagram.com/marttio_miniatureart/
Jesus
snow fern
The mist was a great movie
languid meadow
2034 is kind of actiony and I don't really like 2035
exodus was way better than 35
snow fern
There’s the metro vr game, shame only a whole 5 people will play it
crystal forum
still cant believe they took the basic ass metro action game series and turned it into a character driven experience
crystal forum
There’s the metro vr game, shame only a whole 5 people will play it
oh right that
is it going to be a full game?
snow fern
Idk
I saw it was a vr game and stopped paying attention
Like, what games exist to justify a vr headset beyond HL Alyx?
crystal forum
game industry really wont stop pushing VR like it's going to be standard
like as long as they're not coming with the console box most people dont care
snow fern
Maybe if VR was;
Affordable
Didnt need space
Had more than 3 games
spring cairn
the good vr game list starts with Half-life Alyx and ends with Half-Life Alyx
snow fern
I know people like the Alien Isolation vr port
crystal forum
there's a shitty wolfenstein you can try out
snow fern
Blade and sorcery looks novel
crystal forum
they really butchered that series
snow fern
Man, and the first 3 games of the reboot were fun too
spring cairn
Blade and sorcery looks novel
it's okish
i bought an index just to play half life alyx
i tried beat saber and that was it
snow fern
Powerwashing simulator would be fun on vr
crystal forum
i'll buy a VR headset when half life 3 comes out
spring cairn
it won't be vr
snow fern
Half Life 3 better not be vr
languid meadow
Im it prob wont
spring cairn
the leaks say it won't
crystal forum
it won't be vr
they made a whole engine for it
celest dome
Half Life 3: Mobile
crystal forum
the leaks say it won't
i dont trust that shit
languid meadow
but considering the source engine someone will mod it in
spring cairn
source 2 can run any perspective, vr or not
dota 2 is on source 2
cs2 is on source 2
languid meadow
we don't speak about CS2
snow fern
Is the bots still an issue
snow fern
I’m still pretty convinced the only reaSon they dealt with the bots in TF2 was because it made deadlock look bad
snow fern
Right, but the new push for the bot crisis happened right after deadlock got leaked
Why get invested in a multiplayer game if they don’t take care of their current ones?
crystal forum
Why get invested in a multiplayer game if they don’t take care of their current ...
TF2 is a fossil by gaming standards
spring cairn
i remember looking at deadlock screenshots last year
snow fern
TF2 is a fossil by gaming standards
Then shut off the servers and stop making money off of crates.
Oh wait they didn’t
spring cairn
i mean there's still a sizeable playerbase
crystal forum
the amount of money they make from crates probably offsets the cost of servers
spring cairn
no reason to deprive them of the game they wanna play
crystal forum
but there's no incentive to spend money on dev time
languid meadow
that's why there is like
3 people working on the game
also aren't they finishing the comics now?
languid meadow
sweet
spring cairn
and posted the first page
crystal forum
like there comes a point where a game is so old that you have to train new devs how to use the century old software
why bother
spring cairn
valve is busy with deadlock and half life 3 atm anyway
and also their next vr headset
but that's only the hardware department
queen laurel
valve is busy with deadlock and half life 3 atm anyway
any news about half life 3?
spring cairn
there's a non-vr half life game in development
it's codenamed white sands in house
and they already hired voice actors
gray umbra
😮
queen laurel
it's codenamed white sands in house
aight that is still more information than what i'm expecting
languid meadow
Watch it be a barney game (peak has arrived)
spring cairn
if only
languid meadow
gray umbra
Gotta get your daily beating quota in
spring cairn
but following up on the HLA cliffhanger will be good enough
gray umbra
languid meadow
hmmm assassinorum kingmaker has be acquired
opaque coyote
HLA was peak
Too bad I don't have a VR headset
Cause I don't want to throw like $400(?) to play a single game
gray umbra
Vr headsets are kinda fun
Provided youre okay to occasionally slam a fist into a wall
Half life 2 vr mod was 
green loom
My walls are solid brick so I don't think I'd like that
soft thunder
Ya I agree, moderation in all things and all that. I just think some more evil and unnatural looking loyalist marines. That'd bring back some variety. Not all body horror, just make 'em look unnatural at the very least.
Making their jaws larger, like in some of the blood ravens chapter master art. 40k is full of variety though, like Blood Angels being all blonde and handsome.
They tend to just look like the ideal version of someone's dad more often than not.
And ya the tweet was worded proactively, as tweets tend to be lol.
crystal forum
we already have the mechanicus for full mechanical body horror
i think the only units who should actively look super pretty is like custodes
even if they live for thousands of years they probably have access to enough cosmetic surgery to redo everything
snow fern
Half life 2 vr mod was <:chefskiss:1016159686376034354>
can't wait for hl2 but the ai is self aware
so hype
opaque coyote
Ya I agree, moderation in all things and all that. I just think some more evil a...
I mean honestly the Blood Angels are basically sexy muscular vampire angels
Well some of them
Especially Sangy who looks closer to Alucard than to a normal vampire
snow fern
Isn't the Blood Angels whole thing supernatural beauty
opaque coyote
Isn't the Blood Angels whole thing supernatural beauty
I do imagine that the Iron Hands would look not pretty tho
Well not pretty for anyone other than Tech Priests
snow fern
I mean they're grease monkeys ay? There's a rugged charm to it
soft thunder
we already have the mechanicus for full mechanical body horror
One of the reasons I like admech so much tbh
opaque coyote
"Oh these organic eyes fucking suck. Replace them with robot ones"
Like I'm surprised we haven't seen any Maelstorm looking Iron Hands
arctic talon
Isn't the Blood Angels whole thing supernatural beauty
Depends
Some look pretty ugly
snow fern
Augmentation and cybernetics are too common in 40k I think to affect people's perception
opaque coyote
Augmentation and cybernetics are too common in 40k I think to affect people's pe...
Like I totally imagine them looking like this
opaque coyote
Maelstrom are on some cowardly shit
Maelstrom honestly are my favorite gang design wise. It's either that or the Mox.
crystal forum
what i like about 40k implants is how brutal they look
soft thunder
Like I totally imagine them looking like this
Hadron's tech-priest in training nephew
arctic talon
what i like about 40k implants is how brutal they look
They look jammed in and brutal yeah
opaque coyote
what i like about 40k implants is how brutal they look
Yeah they're generally kinda brutalist
Function over form and all that
arctic talon
Hadron having a kid would be funny
snow fern
I remember the Maelstrom doing a blood ritual in that one cyber psycho quest, but otherwise I think they're forgettable
arctic talon
Maelstrom are only like
crystal forum
like eye implants are supposed to be as good if not better than regular eyes but they look like big camera lenses
arctic talon
A few hundred people in lore
leaden pilot
I love 40k replacement eyes
opaque coyote
They look jammed in and brutal yeah
Also all of the fucking cybernetics in Warhammer have their wires showing
Which must be a bitch to clean
Especially in a battlefield
gray umbra
arctic talon
But a lot def do lol
snow fern
Maybe not to the level of Adam, but there shoulda been more borgs in 2077
arctic talon
Maybe not to the level of Adam, but there shoulda been more borgs in 2077
There’s more Borgs in RED then 2077
opaque coyote
But a lot def do lol
Yeah but I imagine an Iron Hands literally spending 5 hours to clean the insides of their arms and shit
soft thunder
Also all of the fucking cybernetics in Warhammer have their wires showing
the mourningstar just has like a bunch of big ass wires the size of subway tunnels hanging there in space lol
arctic talon
And militech still has fucking full Borg death squads
opaque coyote
the mourningstar just has like a bunch of big ass wires the size of subway tunne...
Yeah ik it's mainly aesthetic
but like
snow fern
2077 with both the cyber furries and more borgs, I'll take that mod
opaque coyote
I am honestly waiting for a Black Library writer to say
arctic talon
2077 with both the cyber furries and more borgs, I'll take that mod
Fun fact, Trauma team has full Borgs
opaque coyote
"Brother IronHand would've defeated the CSM if he didn't let dust and gunk in his fucking arms and actually covered the wires"
arctic talon
the mourningstar just has like a bunch of big ass wires the size of subway tunne...
Giant mutant rats chew on them
snow fern
Ships in 40k got their own ecosystems and generations of families in their bowels
crystal forum
iron hand stuff is advanced enough to clean itself
soft thunder
Giant mutant rats chew on them
yup that's why we hang them outside. They are asteroid resistant too so don't worry about it lol
opaque coyote
Fun fact, Trauma team has full Borgs
To be honest I do agree that Cyberpunk 2077 should have more borgs
Actually the next game should allow you to go full borg
In exchange for like sanity
arctic talon
V doesn’t suffer from cyber psychosis
Because Johnny is already a cyber psycho
And the chip is fixing their brains
opaque coyote
V doesn’t suffer from cyber psychosis
I mean if you run the edgerunner perk. They can actually go into a psychotic break
snow fern
I was under the impression having 2 people in their head helped hold off the psychosis
Johnny was very delusional in his life though
arctic talon
Johnny is explicitly a cyber psycho, though he pretends it’s his “arm” doing it
But I don’t think his arm made him randomly shoot into a crowd of people lol
opaque coyote
Johnny is explicitly a cyber psycho, though he pretends it’s his “arm” doing it
I don't think he's a cyber psycho specifically
arctic talon
He is
opaque coyote
I just think he's just crazy
arctic talon
Pondsmith confirms it
opaque coyote
Like regularly crazy
opaque coyote
Pondsmith confirms it
Bro how tf does a single arm make you go insane
opaque coyote
Oh
arctic talon
He also isn’t mentally sound in the first place
Lol
Cyber psychosis isn’t a single thing
arctic talon
For the 2020 period yeah
snow fern
Johnny's a war vet that's become violently disillusioned, he's probably missing a few screws
opaque coyote
Ig his cyberware is mainly internal ig
arctic talon
He looks human minus the arm
Under body
He’s not nearly as borged up as other people
But he’s got some chrome
opaque coyote
Johnny's a war vet that's become violently disillusioned, he's probably missing ...
Generally there seems to be two ways to prevent cyberpsychosis
A) don't stress yourself or your brain
Since it seems most become cyberpsycho when they either put too much at once
And/or have something extremely stressful happen
arctic talon
Neural processor, Sandevistan boost, interface plugs, chipware socket, two cyberoptics (w/ low-lite, infrared, enhancement), chromed left cyberarm (w/ digital recorder), smartgun link, nanosurgeons
snow fern
I think most cyberpsychosis is "Normal" mental breakdown, just exaserbated by military grade chrome
arctic talon
Full list of his chrome
arctic talon
I think most cyberpsychosis is "Normal" mental breakdown, just exaserbated by mi...
It prolly is
opaque coyote
Like many of the cyberpsychos we encounter in game broke because of some incident.
From losing their daughter, to getting scammed, to even getting too much cyberware chipped into you
So generally just relax
snow fern
easier said then done in a dystopia
opaque coyote
The second way is to literally be so sociopathic that you literally cannot care
It doesn't affect you simply because you're already an unempathetic bastard
opaque coyote
I think most cyberpsychosis is "Normal" mental breakdown, just exaserbated by mi...
Cyberpsychosis does exist.
Since Maelstrom do forcibly shove chrome into people and then leave them in the streets for giggles
And then they become cyberpsycho due to getting 15 new implants at once
Without anesthetic
snow fern
Well there's also the science behind gender dysphoria, and torture is very detremental to the mind
opaque coyote
True
snow fern
I'm not saying it doesn't exist
But the whole side quests about saving cyber psychos shows that some people are connecting some dots
opaque coyote
Yeah it's probably a combination of existing mental problems along with the stress of cybernetics.
After all, to prevent cyberpsychosis, people often use "immunoblockers"
Which implies that they somehow suppress the immune system
snow fern
I mean violent rejection of transplants is a very real thing
some people are never taken off suppressors
opaque coyote
Fair.
Yeah I think the stress literally just makes the body reject the implants.
arctic talon
To getting shit shoved into you
opaque coyote
Combine that with whatever is happening
And you've got a cyberpsycho
I'm thinking it's basically a dysphoria filled panic attack pretty much
Since usually violent cyberpsychos are paranoid as fuck
Hell David starts to hallucinate his last conversation with his mom
Maybe due to regrets he had
Maybe he should've stuck in Arasaka Academy (they probably would've experimented on him regardless but he doesn't know that)
Got a degree just like his mom wanted
gray umbra
Its probably a mix of the immunoblockers being a dependency and some actual mental issues
David isnt affected until after maine dies
opaque coyote
Its probably a mix of the immunoblockers being a dependency and some actual ment...
Yeah I was thinking it's a mixture of the body rejecting the implants combined with mental issues
Like the stress sort of starts to make the dominos fall
arctic talon
David isnt affected until after maine dies
He also gets a fuck ton of implants
opaque coyote
And eventually both the body and mind sort of... fall apart
arctic talon
In a short period of time
gray umbra
Yeah
opaque coyote
He also gets a fuck ton of implants
""built different""
arctic talon
He went cyber psycho from his own hubris
crisp heath
Do custodes have cybernetic augments with their creation or is it pure genetic manipulation?
arctic talon
Do custodes have cybernetic augments with their creation or is it pure genetic m...
Purely genetic as far as we know
opaque coyote
He went cyber psycho from his own hubris
Also the fact that Doc probably isn't the best Ripper for it
crisp heath
Damn
opaque coyote
Like he literally implants shit without anesthetic
gray umbra
Doc does warn him
opaque coyote
I doubt his hands are clean either, judging by his "hobbies" it'
s probably covered in
...
yeah
crisp heath
Wonder if the emperor ever figured out any genetic tampering to enhance being a pysker
opaque coyote
Wonder if the emperor ever figured out any genetic tampering to enhance being a ...
I mean he did make some sort of deal to become even more powerful
gray umbra
Probably
opaque coyote
He also created the primarchs who all have psychic potential
gray umbra
Coughthousandsonscough
crisp heath
He surely did something with Magnus like that
opaque coyote
Magnus also was a powerful Psyker near Magnus's level
opaque coyote
Wonder if the emperor ever figured out any genetic tampering to enhance being a ...
Although I wonder if Dorn was in the opposite direction.
crisp heath
Magnus also was a powerful Psyker near Magnus's level
Magnus is near Magnus’s level?
opaque coyote
Instead of genetic tampering to become a psyker, he decided to try and make him a blank
opaque coyote
Magnus is near Magnus’s level?
I mean malcador
fuck my brain
😭
Magnus is near Malcador's level
crystal forum
the emperor was supposedly trying to turn the entire human race into perpetual psykers
opaque coyote
At least when they found him
crisp heath
Is dorn actually a blank or just has that effect?
opaque coyote
Is dorn actually a blank or just has that effect?
No idea
opaque coyote
All we really know is that he can literally resist Khorne
gray umbra
Hes got a square jaw and das all he needs
crisp heath
“Magics not real dipship”
snow fern
Aren't all the primarch psychic to a degree?
gray umbra
Yeah
arctic talon
Yeah
crystal forum
he's literally so boring that he normalizes the world around him
crisp heath
uses magic to stop magic
opaque coyote
Aren't all the primarch psychic to a degree?
Yup
snow fern
*uses magic to stop magic*
Abjuration wizard my beloved
gray umbra
All primarchs are partially warp creations
snow fern
pain
snow fern
the pariah field is just a lotta pain for people with souls
literal disintegration from existence for like daemons
crystal forum
eisenhorn books go into an odd amount of details about it
eisenhorn books need to fucking chill
crystal forum
like for no reason they go to cadia just so dan can create lore about them
crystal forum
Are they good?
they're ok
not my favorite series
they can get dull
and there's the abnett effect of him thinking he can just explain away fundamental lore stuff on his own
opaque coyote
literal disintegration from existence for like daemons
Honestly if there is ever "alternative classes" for Darktide
Maybe we could get a blank as an alternative to Psyker
gray umbra
Eisenhorn is solid. It definitely has some memes in it
crystal forum
another weird thing about eisenhorn books is they have a real timeline which is pretty crazy for a 40k book
they follow actual set dates
opaque coyote
After all, a lot of the enemies we fight are corrupted by Nurgle, are literally Nurgle daemons, or so "blessed" that they literally look more like mounds of flesh
crystal forum
with years
opaque coyote
So it makes sense to have a blank
crystal forum
at the end of the omnibus it even shows the whole timeline of events
gray umbra
You will notice a pattern where eisenhorn/the writer just really likes to talk about how good he is a with a katana
I mean force sword
🙂
crystal forum
dan puts way too many details in unnecessary places
opaque coyote
I mean force sword
wait eisenhorn's force sword looks like a katana
crystal forum
makes reading a chore when he spends like 3 pages describing a random city
opaque coyote
makes reading a chore when he spends like 3 pages describing a random city
Yeah place descriptions or descriptions of people make me bored
crystal forum
i dont mind that it's the way he does it that annoys me
snow fern
Story writing vs worldbuilding writing
crystal forum
he loves creating super weird places that feel super sci fi
opaque coyote
Story writing vs worldbuilding writing
Worldbuilding is cool, but at the same time I care more about the characters
crystal forum
but just not 40k lol
opaque coyote
rather than the places
It's like a 60/40 split tbh
40 being worldbuilding
in terms of preference
snow fern
Worldbuilding is cool, but at the same time I care more about the characters
Well it's 2 seperate types of writing, one of my favorite books of all time is just a star wars magazine that goes into the fine details of droids make and model and a brief history
no characters, just look at robot
opaque coyote
Well it's 2 seperate types of writing, one of my favorite books of all time is j...
I mean yeah that type of shit is cool
If we're talking about worldbuilding. I find culture writing to be interesting
snow fern
Well I meant was, it sounds like dan wants to do worldbuilding writing then is reminded he has a story too make
crystal forum
the way he does it is like:
"we arrived in the city. the buildings were of high gothic, terran standard style"
he just made up those styles and it doesn't describe shit
ok it's gothic, why add the extra shit
i always have a hard time constructing a mental picture with his books
which is why when i read my first 40k book (tanith omnibus) i was so surprised to see the actual tabletop minis
dan just wants his own 40k
opaque coyote
Well I meant was, it sounds like dan wants to do worldbuilding writing then is r...
"Ah shit I have to write character FUC-"
Yeah Dan has a lot of his own exclusive shit
Tbf some of them are actually cool. Like a device that allows the blank aura to be lessened so that you don't like
fucking vomit if you go near them
crystal forum
it annoys me since it's not like he's fundamentally better than the other writers yet he doesn't get shit for this stuff
meanwhile another writer does backflipping terminators and he's hated
opaque coyote
Backflipping terminators sounds cool
I always thought of SMs kinda doing some fucking shonen level shit
snow fern
I mean aren't knights already pretty nimble, I mean it extends to more than just the largest mechs
opaque coyote
After all, they're supposed to be so reactive and fast that it literally causes dread on normal people
I could easily imagine a Khornate Berserker doing Parkour to chase after someone lmao
crystal forum
oh another thing i've noticed dan does
he expects us to pog when an old character is reintroduced
he does it so much i thought it was just a tanith thing
but he really loves doing that
and now that i think about it he did it in HH books too
without reading the siege of terra books i can tell he does it a shit ton there too
dan is the writer equivalent of a marvel movie
crystal forum
explains a lot
storm jungle
Yep!
crisp heath
Do y’all like Dan’s writing or not I’m confused
storm jungle
you can go look up his comic book credits its literally endless
crisp heath
Like I loved his necron books