40k-lore-chat

[spring cairn]

i ate the abominatus sorry

[dusk patrol]

Big scary daemon engine

[spring cairn]

that's why it doesn't show up no more

[dusk patrol]

True

[small grail]

understandable

[dusk patrol]

I would like new art on that though ngl

[small grail]

taht looks spo fuckin cool

[storm jungle]

Yeah but its another case like the Angel, its just extremely old lore.

its never been retconned

[small grail]

terue but old is gold

[queen laurel]

are their other examples similar to him a daemon completely taking over machine and making it their body

[dusk patrol]

It could show up again, but it probably won’t

[storm jungle]

Yes quite a lot.

[dusk patrol]

Any daemon engine

[small grail]

so its not been lost to time basically

[queen laurel]

besides the one brutal kunning

[dusk patrol]

Daemon titans

[storm jungle]

Its been lost to time until like

an author just goes

"I want to include this in something"

its how most old 40k material worlds

[dusk patrol]

Helbrutes kinda

[small grail]

think the imperium wud have a real hard time to fight it

like u said very dangerous

[dusk patrol]

Probably

But it is an Imperator still

So

It exists to die its first appearance

[storm jungle]

Giant robot etc

[small grail]

and hes got like multiple strange yet freaky weapons

[storm jungle]

but basically uh

dont think so hard about these too much

[small grail]

solo then ye ith an army who knows

[small grail]

its for hypothetical sister

[storm jungle]

Okay but it barely has lore.

hypotheticals work better when theres actual stuff to work with

[small grail]

who cares the art fucks hard

[small grail]

buit yea u aint wrong

can i try making a custom mini fig on blendert?

[dusk patrol]

No

I forbid it

[small grail]

the what do i use

[dusk patrol]

Crayons

[small grail]

why

only khorne forbids me bro

[dusk patrol]

I don’t have to justify myself to you

[small grail]

neither do i

[plush mason]

[small grail]

oh fuck the inquisitions here

[plush mason]

this is basically just an argument between 2 inquisitors rn lol

[small grail]

oh

[dusk patrol]

No but like, do what you want

[plush mason]

the amount of back and forth that must happen in such arguments is crazy to think about

[dusk patrol]

Idc and I’m not your dad

Probably

[small grail]

just wanna make a mini fig

i see people make it on computer

but idk what they use for it

[plush mason]

heroforge or something

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I was joking, you don’t need to ask me if you wanna

Just do it

[young pecan]

In my no joking era, filled with hate and seriousness,

[plush mason]

yet only 13% damage

[small grail]

sorry if it came of that way i was asking what app is best

[small grail]

thanks

[wintry scarab]

Can other chapters switch over to black templars?

[celest dome]

You can't really join another chapter

[small grail]

What's the shtick of the black template I don't get it

[viral halo]

Black Template lol

[storm jungle]

To be fair

hes not wrong

[storm jungle]

Uh they are basically based on IRL crusaders

aka mega religious racists that just kill arabs

just replace middle-easterners with "aliens" and its the same deal

and well "heretics" i guess lol

[crystal forum]

good luck

[wintry scarab]

Also if you ever see anyone that loves kreigsmen, you can assume their favourite chapter is also black templars.

They suffer from the rick and morty effect imo.

[arctic talon]

That’s not even true but sure

Why not

[crystal forum]

krig fans are their own thing

[plush mason]

did Dilara switch back to using the Sylvanus pfp or is my discord just buggin out again?

[crystal forum]

bug

[queen laurel]

That's just your discord

[plush mason]

got it

[arctic talon]

Discord does what discord does

[queen laurel]

Wolf fist fight only who will win

An Ironjaw brute or ogryn

Just their hands and combat skills

[plush mason]

and what discord does, is fuck up

[arctic talon]

Iron jaw is more skilled

Ogryn is stronger

[arctic talon]

Lol

[queen laurel]

so it's a toss up

[celest dome]

I would say that Brute would be more skilled and maybe as strong
But Ardboy ?
I think they would be as skilled and weaker

[arctic talon]

Sylvannas is such a poorly handled character, I went from vaguely liking her to disliking her heavily

Gj blizzard

[plush mason]

that is a common reaction lol

[queen laurel]

all i remember about her was taking over the horde and that was it

or something i don't know

[arctic talon]

She became uh

You know what I want to just mostly remove bfa and shadowlands from my mind

[small grail]

The fucks a sylvanus

[plush mason]

yeah the whole shadowlands story was one big mess and she was in the heart of it

[queen laurel]

a character from world of warcraft

[small grail]

Oh

[arctic talon]

Some of the stuff was clearly written for her this expansion

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-sylvanas-shadowlands-gif-27037287

[arctic talon]

So like

[queen laurel]

Is she dead

[small grail]

Something has arisen within me

[arctic talon]

She’d prolly be relevant if community opinion

[queen laurel]

or is she still kicking about

[arctic talon]

Didn’t fucking implode on her

[arctic talon]

She’s undead

And she’s still around

She’s just been fridged

Until blizzard runs out of ideas again

[queen laurel]

aight that makes sense

[plush mason]

she got banished into the Maw (warcraft's hell) to retrieve all the souls she had sent there for her master the Jailer

[small grail]

Smart idea crossing that put brother otherwise ud get sexually harassed

That's basically blizzards MO

[arctic talon]

💀

[small grail]

Lads I've started my custom mini fig

I have made ball

[plush mason]

if she does come back it will be in Midnight, doubt Metzen would have said "all elves" otherwise

[arctic talon]

Midnight is elf expansion

[small grail]

Damn bro

[arctic talon]

Anyways 50 cents says silvermoon blows up

[small grail]

I be feeling something

[arctic talon]

[small grail]

Devious doge

[plush mason]

yes, with a side focus on he void and light

because we all know if the elves are ever involved in a blizzard story they completely take it over

[small grail]

Worst warhammer tabletop init in yalls opinion and experience

Unit

[plush mason]

dont play the TT so cant say, i hear the Primaris unit the vanguard class in sm2 is based on sucks ass

[small grail]

Ok

@arctic talon

[arctic talon]

Worst tabletop unit is probably Marine Reivers or tankbusta’s

[plush mason]

the reivers is the one i was talking about i think

also

wtf kind of name is reivers?

[winter vessel]

its a shame really, i like their design

[arctic talon]

River pirate

Jokes aside Idfk why they’re called that

[plush mason]

how do you even pronounce it?

[winter vessel]

reaver

[plush mason]

ok

[small grail]

What's wrong with the tankbusta

[winter vessel]

thats how i do it

[arctic talon]

Terrible weapon loadout

Tankbusta’s have historically never been good

Because you’re forced to mix a bunch of terrible guns with different profiles and ranges together

And you’re stuck with the tank hamma

Even if you don’t want it

[small grail]

Uh huh

[queen laurel]

the orks that carriy those unreliable rockets?

[celest dome]

To build/paint ? I would pick this one

[small grail]

@queen laurel

[arctic talon]

Mhm

[dusk patrol]

Reivers at least are pretty good in kill team

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

what

[arctic talon]

They do some solid work in KT

[winter vessel]

whats the difference again between a regular TT and Killteam?

[small grail]

Thought ud take offence to ur ork units being put down

[queen laurel]

Yeah I expected that because I don't expect them to aim well including with the lack of guidance systems

[celest dome]

Smaller size

[small grail]

That wud be so hard

[queen laurel]

i don't play tabletop i

[arctic talon]

Killteam is much smaller and tougher

[plush mason]

yeah no thanks, my hands cramped just by looking at that

[small grail]

Ah

[queen laurel]

And if it's a bad thing even if I love it I'm gonna have to admit it's a bad thing

[arctic talon]

It’s also

[celest dome]

Better balanced though

[arctic talon]

Way more lethal lol

[arctic talon]

Def not lol

[queen laurel]

lore wise Tankbustaz do good work but in tabletop

[arctic talon]

But whatever

[queen laurel]

they suck

[small grail]

Never said that brother

[dusk patrol]

Killteam has its issues yeah

[arctic talon]

Mfw

Patriarch

[celest dome]

Wait did they break KT again

[arctic talon]

Nightlords conceptually as a team

[small grail]

How are salamanders?

Tabletop

[arctic talon]

Salamanders aren’t a killteam

[winter vessel]

same point system though? just working with fewer minis

[arctic talon]

The salamander detach is good

[arctic talon]

No points

Preset teams

[small grail]

I mean just by default

[arctic talon]

Wdym by default

They’re like fine

[small grail]

Ah ok

[small grail]

What is that emote

[plush mason]

why is that emote named vox?

[small grail]

Yea

Shunt it be mort

[plush mason]

its clearly Mort yeah

[dusk patrol]

Server reference

[arctic talon]

Reference to a mod on that server

[plush mason]

ok

[dusk patrol]

He hates the emote so they named it after him

[arctic talon]

Regarding Killteams “points”

[dusk patrol]

Because funny

[arctic talon]

If we go off of points

The marine team is like 2x as many points as the guard one lol

[queen laurel]

Does every kill team game allow you to just take the entire team?

it doesn't have the aos or 40k system of stopping you because you are basically over the budget of taking units?

[arctic talon]

You have specialists you can’t always take

Since your limited to a certain number of operatives

This is really apparent in the inquisition one

[queen laurel]

so like every faction has a members of the team that is all basic and they have specialists that do amazing stuff or something

[arctic talon]

Uh sorta

Depends on the team

Some teams you can run all specialists

[queen laurel]

how many specialists do orks have

[arctic talon]

10 + the bomb squig and grot

For kommandos

[queen laurel]

basically everyone besides the grot?

[arctic talon]

That ones missing 2 operative variants

Bcs they built 2 of them as normal kommandos

[queen laurel]

oh ok but like basically almost 90% of them are special

[arctic talon]

Yeah you could run that if you wanted

I wouldn’t recommend it

But you could

[queen laurel]

i guess running specials means that losing one of them is a lot more painful

[arctic talon]

Not really

It’s just specialists are focused on a single thing

Normal Kommandos are generalists

[crisp heath]

By the time of the istvan 3 traitor legion civil war had mortarian and the death guard already fallen to nurgle or was that later?

[solid oyster]

Wait why do they show cadia as just some debris in space

I thought it was just damaged

[crisp heath]

It’s gone

Planet is obliterated

[solid oyster]

So cadia being gone is what caused the warp to widen

Cutting off half the galaxy from the astronomicon

[crisp heath]

Technically but it’s more what’s on cadia

[sour hornet]

It's literally an asteriod field.

[crisp heath]

Or what was on it

[solid oyster]

Oof

[sour hornet]

Cadia had anti-magic bullshit towers on the surface.

[crisp heath]

Massive necron pillars that staved off chaos and kept the warp away

[sour hornet]

Cadia goes poof, the towers go poof.

[crisp heath]

Abadon needed them GONE

[sour hornet]

Warp fuckery intensifies.

Big fuckoff rift.

[crisp heath]

And no matter how much he lost destroying the planet was well worth it for him

[solid oyster]

Nevron pylons?

[sour hornet]

Yes.

[crisp heath]

Necrons hate the warp

[solid oyster]

So the only way to defeat cadia was to pull a [redacted date here]?

[sour hornet]

Yeah basically.

[solid oyster]

Lol

[winter vessel]

they were still normal, think it was after the Drop Site Massacre on Istvaan V did Typhus pulled a Tokyo Drift with the Terminus Est straight into the warp.

[sour hornet]

They didn't think that way at the start.

[crisp heath]

Tbf cadia did absolutely kick ass till the very end

But they weren’t gonna win

[sour hornet]

But the battle got so large and so costly Abaddon started to mald.

And decided to drop a whole Blackstone fortress on the planet.

[solid oyster]

Yeh cadia was strong, the planet broke before the guard

[sour hornet]

Which, uh, had consequences.

[solid oyster]

Lol

When did the horus Heresy take place

[storm jungle]

He had a useless WMD and did the best out of the situation, the planet was more or less on the breaking point by the end of the campaign.

again guard cope kinda really muddles the actual event

[solid oyster]

What

[sour hornet]

30K

[solid oyster]

Ow

The emperor has been fed a hundred psykers everyday for past 10k years?

[arctic talon]

Abbadon was winning until the pylons turned on

🤓

[arctic talon]

It got so bad the legion of the damned showed up

That’s how you know it’s going to shit lol

[sour hornet]

Of all the myriad uses of a Blackstone fortress, using it as a KKV is not on my list.

[winter vessel]

funnily enough, the Original outcome on the Fall of Cadia was that the planet wasn't destroyed. Abbadon won the ground war but the Navis Imperialis won the battle in space as they still retained superiority over the Cadian Gate. Meanwhile Eldrad fell in Slaanesh's mouth.

[arctic talon]

It was disabled and practically destroyed

[storm jungle]

It was essentially useless once it started fightign back itself and the wolves also sabotaged it

[sour hornet]

I never said the guard was winning, just that the battle was costly.

[storm jungle]

if Trazyn also didnt activate the planetary shielding Cadia would have been nuked in like 2 minutes

[arctic talon]

That version of the 13th got retcon’d

[sour hornet]

And it was pretty damn costly.

[arctic talon]

It wasn’t too bloody to handle until the pylons turned on

That’s when it got to the point where Abbadon just threw in the towel

[sour hornet]

And then it got costly.

[arctic talon]

And decided to blow up the planet

[solid oyster]

Someone get me some 40K books. I need to dig the lore.

[arctic talon]

Core rule book is always good for an introduction

[winter vessel]

still cool that it was a global wide event for people to partake in the battle, whichever side won leads to the outcome, i like it when you can do stuff like that

[solid oyster]

Recommend some

[arctic talon]

But do you want a specific faction

Give me something to work with

[sour hornet]

Kasrkin are pulling 30-1 casualty rates against CSM, wild shit honestly.

[storm jungle]

It unfortunately kinda showed you shouldnt trust lore decisions to players though.

well "major" ones anyway

when its small scale it works better

[winter vessel]

indeed

[storm jungle]

it was the same with storm of chaos in fantasy

chaos never got to leave norsca

LMAO

[winter vessel]

forgot about that one

[solid oyster]

Who is grimdank

[storm jungle]

a 40k subreddit where they post unfunny jokes

OH MY GOD

I WENT TO CHECK

AND SOMEONE REUPLOADED MY SHIT

[solid oyster]

Hm

Lol

[storm jungle]

this thing is like 4 years old btw

these cunts love reposting

[sour hornet]

They saw peak and had to have it unfortunately.

[storm jungle]

god damn it

[sour hornet]

This is why you should give in to the voices Dilara.

Join them

[solid oyster]

Where is Roboute Guiliman

[arctic talon]

Somewhere in Sanctus

[solid oyster]

Also did the emperor talk with Titus

[arctic talon]

Probably not

[bold rampart]

on the r34 front page

[solid oyster]

"Rise, son of Guiliman"

[solid oyster]

No

[sour hornet]

Ultram*rines.

[winter vessel]

-Calgar if you had the subtitles on

[sour hornet]

🤢

[solid oyster]

It just showed those words

[sour hornet]

Teal > Cobalt blue.

[solid oyster]

Salamanders are the best

[sour hornet]

Misspelled Raven Guard.

[winter vessel]

well Emperor or not, you decide.

[sour hornet]

But in all honesty

[arctic talon]

It’s calgar

[dusk patrol]

I’d say take it as a compliment but it also means people on grimdank think it’s funny

[sour hornet]

The glorious craftworlders are a league above all.

[dusk patrol]

Some of the schemes work better than others for me

Hoping we get some new Warp Spider models soon

Allegedly Asurman is getting a new model

[storm jungle]

Yeah a friend of mine said the same thing a second ago, I dont ever actively use grimdank aside from showing up to maybe post a meme I made with actual effort lol.

the problem is with yvraine/gman memes half the comments are "Well im gonna ship them anyway because i fell on my head as a infant"

which is okay, i guess its your unhuman right

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s always must shift the goalposts

“Guilliman and Yvraine fuck”

“They’ve met like three times in lore and are at best uneasy allies.”

“Well I don’t care I’m gonna head canon it.”

[storm jungle]

Yeah its just whatever, let them fester that shithole, no point in being invested in it for any reason.

[dusk patrol]

[winter vessel]

My Hero Academia fandom be like: "oh these two shared one single conversation? ship em"

[storm jungle]

aughhhh screaming

[winter vessel]

hell even sharing one frame of animation together

[dusk patrol]

Baldurs Gate 3 tier romance

[fallen plaza]

Thats just how a lot of shipping works in childrens shows

At least, how the fandoms do it

[storm jungle]

When it makes sense I dont mind it

its like shipping Arnold with Helga from Hey Arnold, its literally set up to be a romance that will bloom later on.

When its characters that got nothing to do with each other then I get it lol

https://tenor.com/view/hi-alo-wave-smile-gif-12522564

[fallen plaza]

I mean even if it was set up to be a romance it can also be divisive lol

Case and point, the samurai jack reboot

[storm jungle]

LOL

To be fair there it makes no sense

i meant more where it actually connects

fucking hell that pissed me off 💀

[fallen plaza]

It didnt help that the ending happened

[solid oyster]

What

[fallen plaza]

At the time I actually didnt mind the romance

[dusk patrol]

Who

Where

[fallen plaza]

In hindsight, yeah it sucked.

[storm jungle]

Honestly it was great, Ashi just doesnt fit into it lol

[celest dome]

I quite like romance in fantasy and sci fi, but some people are able to see it where there is nothing at all

[fallen plaza]

What actually bothered me more was the samurai in horseback that was built up in the trailer

[celest dome]

Cain and Amberly love it

[storm jungle]

Yeah the grim reaper figure

[fallen plaza]

Like what the hell was that

[storm jungle]

he just goes "nuh uh" and it leaves

[fallen plaza]

That lead up to nothing

[storm jungle]

but again I cant complain TOO MUCH because they at least kept ihm around for the beginning arcs before he fucked off

[winter vessel]

The Omen goes from Slim to CHONK in his last episode

[fallen plaza]

Im just glad samurai jack gets to rest

[storm jungle]

Samurai Jack has always been abrupt with its conclusions since its a kids show so i didnt mind it that much

and yeah same

i love how like

they wasted ZERO TIME the moment they got time travel powers and left

And aku just went "OH FUCK"

[queen laurel]

Aku was a demon though

Straight up menace

[winter vessel]

Jack represents my feeling of the series when he said “NO MORE”. Like finally this man can rest

[fallen plaza]

Man

The first few episodes though?

My god, they were so good

[storm jungle]

LEGIT peak scorcese CINEMA shit

[fallen plaza]

Samurai jack was honestly the whole reason i became interested in appreciating media more in the different perspective

[storm jungle]

same here tbh

its just art

[fallen plaza]

I still prefer the comic ending though

[winter vessel]

“Whoa what a freak. Looked like a talking P”- that line reminded me oh crap this isn’t on the Cartoon Network domain anymore

[fallen plaza]

One thing that bothers me more than the ship of ashi, and the grim reaper figure

Is the fact that when the samura jack game released

Gendy just went like, “yeah this game is the new canon now”

LIKE WHAT

[storm jungle]

I MISSED THAT

I remember hearing it and just "Ok just gonna ignroe that"

lol

[winter vessel]

They got overwhelmed with the outcries of the Shippers

[storm jungle]

pretty fucked up world we live in....

😔

[fallen plaza]

LIKE WAS THAT ALL FOR NOTHING

[winter vessel]

What other cartoon romance journey has confused me?

[queen laurel]

Wasn't this also like a thing in the matrix where one of the games is cannon lore being the matrix mmo?

[winter vessel]

Oh yeah, Legend of Korra

[storm jungle]

YEP.

[fallen plaza]

Dont expect any cartoon to make good romance

[queen laurel]

Man i hate when they do that

[storm jungle]

I learned everything i needed about love and romance from cartoons guys trust me.

Just like how Kids Next Door said all bras teenagers own are power-armor

[dusk patrol]

Kids Next Door had some humor I did not get as a kid at all

And it’s kinda wild looking back

[storm jungle]

Same

KND also has like some admech tier superweapons

like jesus christ

[queen laurel]

A zombie virus that makes you old and takes over the entire planet in seconds

A literal mech made out of baby chicks

[storm jungle]

bro that episode fucked me up as a kid

[queen laurel]

A box that can transform into a titan killer weapon

[fallen plaza]

I never understood space ghost coast to coast as a kid

[winter vessel]

That was very dark

[queen laurel]

These motherfuckers are stacked

[fallen plaza]

As an adult, i still dont get it

Space ghost interview with todd howard was gold though

[winter vessel]

Funnily enough, the key things they emphasize is the hate of vegetables, which I didn’t connect with since I actually liked eating that as a kid .

[storm jungle]

YEAH SAME

that fucking lunch lady villain was nuts

[arctic talon]

I like broccoli

Lol

[storm jungle]

summoning brocolli zombies that shove themselves in your mouth 💀

[arctic talon]

I think people are just shit at cooking it

[fallen plaza]

I remember the billy and mandy and knd crossover

[dusk patrol]

The plunger dude

[winter vessel]

Oh that one episode where the had a rock band playing was fun

[dusk patrol]

I loved the uh

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Wasn’t there something with pink eye

[dusk patrol]

Tie episode

[arctic talon]

For that one

[winter vessel]

Toilenator. Can’t believe I remembered that name

[fallen plaza]

https://youtu.be/aLlFpww1G14?si=aZuy12Zw8IpqZNbF

[storm jungle]

the Tie episode i never got because i never wore one but lmao

[queen laurel]

I get not liking vegetables because i was one of those dumb kids but like antagonizing an entire food group?

[dusk patrol]

That’s the one

[torpid narwhal]

me fr fr

[dusk patrol]

Also Father and Grandfather

https://tenor.com/view/knd-gif-20584486

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/knd-father-gif-21497559

[winter vessel]

Oh yeah. Nightbrace’s first episode where it showed how bad their teeth were. I was like “how are you guys still alive.”

[dusk patrol]

Father was fucking wild.

[fallen plaza]

The evil kids that always sat together always bothered me

[dusk patrol]

I don’t even think it’s explained why he’s able to do that shit lol

So much of it’s like “yeah they just do this”

[arctic talon]

Hes just built better

[winter vessel]

And when you realize that those kids are actually members of Sector Z, the elite operatives of the KND. You realize he basically kidnapped other families’ children. Like for real, the parents don’t even know what happened to their own sons and daughters

[dusk patrol]

I loved how Cartoon Network always had a “movie” episode where the normal big bad would have to help the heroes take down the new big bad for the movie

[queen laurel]

These?

[dusk patrol]

Like the dude in Danny Phantom

And Teen Titans and Slade

Holy shit they did this a lot

Also Ben Ten

Jfc I never noticed this before

[fallen plaza]

Cartoon network just has a really good fucking lineup of shows

[dusk patrol]

It’s a good idea cause it’s fun

[fallen plaza]

Was a big johnny bravo fan

[queen laurel]

And then it all went to dust

[winter vessel]

Not once are the visually scene separated from each other. “Like how do you guys even use the bathroom?”

[fallen plaza]

Weirdly

Apparently johnny bravo is extremely popular in india

[queen laurel]

That explains a lot

[fallen plaza]

So much so they made a spin off show where johnny bravo goes to india

It was… not good.

[winter vessel]

People today will hear the word “Catscratch” and think it’s the infection you get. But I always remembered it as the old Nickelodeon cartoon show

[fallen plaza]

That was great too

Though i was more of a catdog fan

[crisp heath]

Why were there so many world eaters loyalists?

[winter vessel]

Oh catdog! Classic show

[crisp heath]

Did they just really hate angron?

[fallen plaza]

Who wouldn’t wanna leave

You should see iron warrior loyalist

[crisp heath]

I don’t think they’d be too loyal to the emperor

[arctic talon]

Angron was an asshole and a lot of the legion liked the imperium

[winter vessel]

I felt bad for the Loyalist World Eaters that survived the initial bombardment on Istvaan III, they were the most fractured of the resistance left on the planet.

[celest dome]

Did any WE Librarian survive the heresy?

[arctic talon]

No

They all died trying to stop angrons ascension

Well

Maybe one or two survived

[crisp heath]

Trying to kill angron

[arctic talon]

But none in the main group

Them + a bunch of the dreads

Tried

[crisp heath]

I didn’t know there were WE dreads

Did they have nails too?

[winter vessel]

Lhorke was 1 world eater dreadnought that didn't have the nails implanted

[arctic talon]

Some didn’t, some did

[plush mason]

the literal brass scorpion that was the flu bug mech

oh and the ice cream truck driver stormtroopers

fuck that show was wild

[opaque coyote]

KND was neat

[winter vessel]

knowing their creativity, they probably have stuff that rivaled WMDs in every country

[opaque coyote]

I mean they had a fucking moon base

[plush mason]

dude they had WMDs in every other house

[opaque coyote]

And also KND was simply a branch of a literal galaxy spanning empire

[plush mason]

yup

[opaque coyote]

Also Nameless Birdy

Why are you a bird

[winter vessel]

its a shame GKND will never come into fruition, and that is something that is for the best nowadays

[opaque coyote]

KND Warhammer 40k edition

Literally just the same but with gothic stuff instead

[queen laurel]

These kids are literally the ork meme of sticking together a bunch of cardboard boxes and bolts to make a laser gun strong enough to cut an entire world in half

[opaque coyote]

[opaque coyote]

It is quite depressing honestly

The trailer they made to pitch it was pretty good

[plush mason]

because its a toy in WoW that turns you into a duckling

[opaque coyote]

Also Nigel's "Girlfriend" being a secret plant creature was something I did NOT expect lmao

[fallen plaza]

Nowadays, i prefer it stay dead now

[winter vessel]

oh man Lizzy, I could not stand her in any episode she was in.

[plush mason]

that basically happened a few time iirc

[opaque coyote]

And now we know why

She's a spy

[winter vessel]

it definitely explained the breakup at the end.

[plush mason]

which one was the inventor?

i can only remember number 1 and 2 off the top of my head

[queen laurel]

The blue guy that is round

[plush mason]

yes

[winter vessel]

Numbuh 2. real name is Hoagie, kinda like the sandwich

[plush mason]

was he number 2?

[winter vessel]

yes

[queen laurel]

Yes

[plush mason]

ah ok so i mixed up his number with Abigail

[crystal forum]

do you guys believe that worldbuilding should come before everything else

[winter vessel]

5. she was cool when i watched the series as a kid

[queen laurel]

I like number two because of that episode where he had that constant dog fight with that person

[winter vessel]

ace

[queen laurel]

Really shows how batshit their construction is

[plush mason]

she was very much the second in command and often times more in control than number 1

[queen laurel]

And tech are

[plush mason]

yeah

number 2 would make all kinds of crazy stuff

[winter vessel]

Shield had a tricarrier. these kids had something called a Gihugeacarrier. like wtf

[queen laurel]

Like i said man these guys are straight up the meme of ork tech

Give them duct tape and boxes they will make a fusion reactor that uses air to make energy

[crystal forum]

kid logic

shows like these got me into making stuff with my hands

[plush mason]

give them a stick and a bottle of mustard and they will make a super weapon able to one shot anyone/thing it hits

[winter vessel]

there was another set of characters that behaved like the Delightful children, i forgot their names, but they were twins

[leaden pilot]

I'd say it's a balance - having a cool world won't matter if your story is boring af or just bad, and having a great story won't really matter if your world is inconsitent (though I still feel like story should be the priority, ig)

[queen laurel]

A bottle of ketchup a broken toaster and a broken radio and they can make a containment vessel strong enough to contain a c'tan

[plush mason]

yup

[crystal forum]

but should worldbuilding come first in the creative process

that's my question

[celest dome]

It should come organically

[plush mason]

^

[celest dome]

You don't and shouldn't have the whole setting fixed before you you start writing the story

[leaden pilot]

If you worldbuild for worldbuilding's sake, then yeah, it should

[plush mason]

what leads and what follows is always interchangable

[celest dome]

But have it be stable enough to give a good start, then you build upon it alongside the story

[plush mason]

LOTR started with simple bedtime stories and a simple line doodled on the back of a writing paper after all

[crystal forum]

this is a weird one but i always wondered if george orwell had an idea of his fictional world in 1984 before writing the story

the world building in that book is just so in depth for some reason

[plush mason]

im sure he had something to start with, but it isnt called the creative process for nothing, what you start with is rarely what you end with

[crystal forum]

what if the story is only a minor part of the world itself

that's kinda the feeling i got from electric state

[plush mason]

i mean, you could easily argue the war of the rings is a minor part of Tolkien's world literally only happening in the last part of the 3rd age

there is some 6000 something years of history before that war beings

[crystal forum]

does that history matter though

actually what does make a world's history matter

does it always have to be relevant to the plot

[plush mason]

it does and doesnt, it matters in that it adds meaning and context to some of what is happening in the story but it also isnt needed to understand the story itself

[plush mason]

i say no because history is a collection of many stories

[fallen plaza]

It depends on what story you want to tell

[plush mason]

yeah

[fallen plaza]

You can choose what to leave blank

[crystal forum]

im guessing in the ring books the history matters in that it explains the character motivations

[plush mason]

some of them

but a lot of the worldbuilding in the Silmarillion isnt related to the story of the hobbit/lord of the rings and insted serves to flesh out the world he and his son where crafting

[crystal forum]

is it possible to write a story using only worldbuilding

[queen laurel]

That's just a warhammer codex or battletome

[crystal forum]

because i'll sit through hour long videos explaining lotr history

[queen laurel]

You can but it's more like you know supplementary material

[fallen plaza]

Just learn to write people

Lore building can be a trap that could potentially hinder your story telling

[crystal forum]

it's so fun tho

and yeah you can tell when a story was written with waayyyy too much worldbuilding

[plush mason]

Tolkien literally spending 3+ pages to describe a tree

[crystal forum]

it's funny to bring up fantasy stuff when i always default my brain back to sci fi worldbuilding

but both are just different sides of the same coin

[plush mason]

granted its a magical tree of Heaven but like, the dude was a touch obsessed with worldbuilding and detail

[crystal forum]

then you have shit like star wars where a random prop in a set becomes its own subrace with a dedicated miniseries about it

[leaden pilot]

Imo good worldbuilding can be a result of a good story - if your story is consistent, it also means your world is consistent, and therefore at least passable/believable, without putting too much effort into it

[plush mason]

yeah

[fallen plaza]

Just dont obesses over it

Unless thats what you only want to do

[crisp heath]

So the space wolves put on a show of savagery but they are actually very tactical fighters. And the blood angels put on a show of grace and talent but really are barely restrained terrible fury. Is this right?

[fallen plaza]

Depends on whos writing

[crisp heath]

lol

[opaque coyote]

They're supposed to be like that yeah

[crystal forum]

and salamanders care about civilians while also loving flame weapons

space marines love their dichotomies

[opaque coyote]

As long as they're not heretics

How dare they riot for things like

"food"

Amd

"water that isn't from a sewer"

THE SEWER GIVES EXTRA NUTRIENTS

[fallen plaza]

That is my response

[leaden pilot]

primaris marines could feed a whole city block with that cake

[opaque coyote]

Ah yes

Cake

How delicious

[fallen plaza]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxvcRBzn_fYWEUu0kUgH3wjZ1d8xFUAuNV?si=k8GO7tPgZZOLGOVS

[opaque coyote]

Ha jokes on you

All my statements are pure, refined brainrot

All natural

No GMOs or Drugs involved

[fallen plaza]

The joke isnt the drugs part

Its the fact this is something you would absolutely say

[opaque coyote]

Nah drugs are bad

[burnt maple]

Hm... Do Carcharodons use purity seals?

[fallen plaza]

Every chapter does

[burnt maple]

Huh.

[opaque coyote]

Everywhere in the Imperium uses purity seals

[burnt maple]

True enough.

[opaque coyote]

The fucking can of corpse starch that Bob eats probably has a purity seal slapped onto it

[burnt maple]

But considering their culture I thought they'd use something instead.

[opaque coyote]

I mean if it prevents Daemons from getting in

[arctic talon]

They use them. Less then other chapters since they’re strapped on resources

But they got them

[opaque coyote]

Then might as well keep using them

[burnt maple]

Also... are the trims of their shoulders black or copper? I can't fucking see right.

[arctic talon]

Uh

It depends iirc

[burnt maple]

Painting them will be pain.

[fallen plaza]

Purity seals dont have a clear purpose

You can write whatever you want on them

In 30k its a bit different

[crystal forum]

carchorodons are a weird one

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I doubt even the Imperium remembers their exact purpose

[burnt maple]

What was their purpose?

[opaque coyote]

Again, I think they just keep using them because it makes them think they're safe.

Which in turn

Actually makes them safe from daemons

Because power of belief

[fallen plaza]

There purpose veries from culture to culture

You can write wards on it, you can write promises on it then you can rip it off when the promise is fulfilled

[arctic talon]

Black and gold are both used

[opaque coyote]

Exact is unknown as it varies

But in general. You got a weapon from the Chaos Captain and want to keep it as a cool trophy?

Slap a bunch of purity seals on it.

[arctic talon]

Gold seems to be reserved for veterans

[crystal forum]

they're meant to look cool

[opaque coyote]

All I wonder is how much wax and gold does the Imperium use in the daily

[arctic talon]

Purity seals for marines can contain "oath of the moment"

which is more of a

I'll do X and uphold Y

sorta thing

[fallen plaza]

I can imagine its only like, 10. Just 10.

[arctic talon]

oath of the moment was primarily a 30k thing

but the Primaris have brought it back

[opaque coyote]

Space Wolves be like

"I will kill heretics and get a lot of hot babes"

[arctic talon]

Regarding other things on purity seals

[dusk patrol]

Purity seals kinda mould to whatever the chapter prefers

[arctic talon]

they got battle honors, heroic actions, ect.

[crystal forum]

when you can strip mine entire planets gold loses a bit of its charm

[dusk patrol]

It can be poems, sayings, personal vows, prayers, tactics

[arctic talon]

it looks good

[dusk patrol]

Whatever

[arctic talon]

[crystal forum]

but it's still valuable in 40k

[fallen plaza]

Its more valuable in 40k tbh

In 30k it had a more defined purpose

Now its a glorified sticky note

Which is fine since it looks cool

[arctic talon]

ngl FW missed out on making this dude look super fucked up armor wise lol

[opaque coyote]

It looks cool.

Also gold is valuable for electronics. Which is important for shoving it into Servitors.

[fallen plaza]

Tbf this was the space sharks debut

[burnt maple]

Also, their armors more grey or more blue?!

[fallen plaza]

Whatever looks right to you

If the chapter has conflicting looks your better off picking which one looks better

[arctic talon]

Depends on depiction the Primaris and Imperial armor have a very basic grey, some of their book covers have them with a bluish grey

tldr

do whatever you want

[crystal forum]

the amount of gold require to coat electronics is measured in atoms of thickness

it's only used because it doesnt oxidize

i like the way star trek does it. gold is so worthless that they use it to contain latinum

[burnt maple]

I hate when it happens.

[fallen plaza]

Its not a big deal tbh

Just pick which one looks better

If GW doesnt bother to be consistent its not your fault lol

[arctic talon]

Just use grey, if you want the most depicted one

[crystal forum]

good thing you have a bunch of greys to choose from

from GW paints i mean

i had to make my own soul drinker purple

[leaden pilot]

How's the souldrinker series, btw?
I've been thinking of reading it

[arctic talon]

It’s nice

[crystal forum]

my favorite 40k series

[leaden pilot]

Guess I'll move it up a bit on my "to read" list

[crystal forum]

the first omnibus is the best one imo

[fallen plaza]

[hasty coral]

Heyyyy, this isn’t 40k lore!

How could you

[crystal forum]

i didn't expect the eisenhorn books to give lore about early cadia

[surreal nest]

No trust me dan abnett drew that it tells the struggle of ultramar

[bold matrix]

emperors finest..........

[crystal forum]

brits love to think of the blitz as their own stalingrad huh

[burnt maple]

Went like this. Since SM2 puts them in this color. And if I get to paint them, will do like that as well.

[dusk patrol]

Just use the iron hand grey

Ignore a lot of the schemes they give you in game, a mot are wrong and just exist to add more colors

[burnt maple]

Hm. If I have it...

Granted, they look more interesting this way.

[arctic talon]

To be fair

Space sharks are meant to look quite

Bland

Very simple generally

Fucked up armor

There’s some tattoo stuff but that’s not possible ingame unfortunately

[burnt maple]

There is not even a good grey here.

[soft thunder]

Do you mean our sweet beloved abomination, Tyberos the Red Wake?

[arctic talon]

Nah that dude I posted is just some random terminator

But tyberos’s armor is great

[raven stone]

See I wonder why we cannot have a 3rd type…

“Loyalists who recognise how fucked everything is but still (grudgingly/humbly/nobly/reluctantly) support the Imperium because they realize the alternative is things getting even more fucked.”

[languid meadow]

isn't that just corax

[barren prawn]

i found an in game example of GW story telling

[tough haven]

Do ultramarines follow the OG imperial truth? or do they worship the emperor as a god

[languid meadow]

pretty all of the founding legions few the emps as a man since they were there

[barren prawn]

heresy era marines no but the newer ones prolly

[languid meadow]

but I think the primaris marines from mars do believe he is a god

[barren prawn]

dumb vat babies

i hate them so much

[crisp heath]

Did the primarchs make their own armor or did the emperor give some to them?

[languid meadow]

we know that marines from the 40M do believe he is a man

At least from the legions

[barren prawn]

vulkan prolly is the only one that made it himself

[languid meadow]

Vulkan, ferrus prob made their own

[soft thunder]

vulkan and ferrus probably made their own. Maybe fulgrim and pert as well.

[languid meadow]

I think pert did since he has a custom made terminator suit

[spring cairn]

I finished the iron hand at last

(i was missing the iron hand)

[soft thunder]

not sure if the primarchs armor is specified much maybe a bigger nerd can weigh in

Big E probably gave most of them armor tho

[languid meadow]

he prob gave them like a template and had them customize it

[barren prawn]

not horus tho

[tough haven]

I think iron hands are cool, and I'd use them, if they had any lore

[spring cairn]

it's all about the looks

[barren prawn]

he very carefully had an entire suite of armor crafted and hidden in his room just in case he ever decided to become evil

[spring cairn]

they have a good gimmick

finished the deathwatch black templar too

[barren prawn]

seriously books never explain where horus got the "eye" armor from

[languid meadow]

Warp magic

idk

[crisp heath]

Emperor gave it to em

[languid meadow]

Also I hate how you can't put chapter heraldry on the right pauldron for most chapters

[spring cairn]

yeah

that's annoying

[barren prawn]

emperor also made him fukin bald so i can see that happening too

[spring cairn]

especially if you want to make deathwatch

[languid meadow]

yeah

[barren prawn]

muh codex

[languid meadow]

all my marines are deathwatch

[spring cairn]

thx god black templars get their heraldry on both pauldrons

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[languid meadow]

the codex does not apply to deathwatch

[crisp heath]

(I’m the same)

[languid meadow]

idk about you but I've seen more black templars and blood angels than deathwatch

[crisp heath]

I can’t play this game no more though

[spring cairn]

i tried making a blood angel veteran aswell (iknow fuckall about BA's)

[languid meadow]

seen one person actually using deathwatch schemes

[crisp heath]

My giant thunder hammer gets no reaction from the elites

[languid meadow]

the inquisition consumes

[crisp heath]

The plague ogryns in darktide even get staggered by the thunder hammer

Come on

[barren prawn]

welllll

they stagger by vets shouting

[surreal nest]

My blood angel is actually so cute

[crisp heath]

But that’s the issue, space marine 2 needs enemy stagger

[surreal nest]

I made him look like my action figure from Bandai Namco

[spring cairn]

i agree that weapon feedback kinda suck but that's more because enemies are bullet sponges

[crisp heath]

As it stands I’m just swinging a pool noodle at em, no melee attacks knock them around

[spring cairn]

like tzangors will TANK

[crisp heath]

They literally just eat a fully charged thunder hammer

[languid meadow]

despite all my rage the raptors did not make the cut

[crisp heath]

(Light work no reaction)

Like man I wish my melee was better it’s kinda why I bought the game lol

Not just to dip and dodge all over

[spring cairn]

get a fencing weapon and start parrying

[languid meadow]

fencing makes the bulwark so nice

[spring cairn]

it's still not what you want but at least you'll be able to get stuck in

[soft thunder]

So does the DLC season pass only add successor chapter eblems and colors? Any model custimization or special bits at all?

[languid meadow]

prob only getting new armor in the champion stuff for chapters

[arctic talon]

Some model stuff plus Sgt. Stripe

you can't do the veteran sgt stripe

without the DLC

[spring cairn]

my blood angel is missing that

the stripe...

[arctic talon]

You can do the LT. Stripe

[spring cairn]

but i won't sell out

[arctic talon]

but no Vet Sgt.

the fact the vet sgt. stripe isn't the free one

hurts me

[languid meadow]

so when we DA we'll get their armor and hopefully their successor chapters heraldry

(this is me coping)

[arctic talon]

I mean heraldry 100%

unique armor sets will be

less likely but still very possible imo

[spring cairn]

also need armor and heraldry for chaos warbands

don't forget them

[languid meadow]

well the ultramarine champ pack adds unique armor so im just basing it off of that

[soft thunder]

But the season pass has the ultramarine successor chapter stuff atm. So it's kinda the benchmark for future content. I'm betting Blood angels will be one of the next legion succors to get a champion season pack cosmetic booster

[tough haven]

which are?

[languid meadow]

plus not adding new armor is wasted potential

[crisp heath]

Parrying is easy, it’s just when you parry and get stuck in an animation so the unblockable hits you or the little guys scratch you in the back and rip up your health

And god those ranged dudes

[soft thunder]

I'm just gauging whether I should cope myself into thinking Salamanders will get any champion pack.

[tough haven]

I kinda hate how recent games pretty much only add cosmetic shit instead of new content

[spring cairn]

extensive body modification which adds to their looks

[arctic talon]

they're making any dlc content free

[languid meadow]

I mean lets assume every legion is getting a champ pack

[arctic talon]

Iron Hands having a bunch of cybernetics

goes hard

and yes I am absolutely biased

[spring cairn]

spam parries, it really works

fencing weapons allow you to spam them hard

[arctic talon]

yeah

you need to spam parry lol

with fencing

[tough haven]

I mean, I'm a mechanicus fan so that works for me

[arctic talon]

its kind of silly

[spring cairn]

it's literally button mashing

[soft thunder]

I mean the seasonpass dlc cosmetic booster gigapogchamp bundle seems to revolve around successor chapters. idk if there is anything cool worth mentioning for new armor model bits from the ultramarine dlc so far.

[crisp heath]

But yeah my main issue is I just want melee to be buffed and enemies to have more reaction

Stop the chaos marine from shooting at me while being hot with a hammer

[spring cairn]

weapons need to do more dmg overall

except melta

[crisp heath]

Real

The heavy’s bolter needing like 10 shots to kill one small shooting enemy

Of the tyranids

😔

[spring cairn]

the worst offenders are the tzangors fr

[languid meadow]

I just want the campaign version of the heavy bolter in ops

[crisp heath]

REAL

[languid meadow]

the accurate slow firing mode in campaign was great

[spring cairn]

basically with ranged weapons it's either you headshot

or you spend 10 years killing a mob

and that apply to chaff too

which sucks

[soft thunder]

To clarify the season pass thing, is a "champion" a class specific skin or something?

[spring cairn]

it's unclear atm

[soft thunder]

smh

[spring cairn]

we just know they're cosmetics

[crisp heath]

The headshots aren’t even that great

They still EAT bullets

[leaden pilot]

I think I saw somebody mention that it will be, but don't quote me on that
That the blueberries one will be Tactical, the DA will be Bulwark, and so on

[leaden pilot]

I like them as a vanguard player
A quick way to gain some armor, even if it gets stripped down a second later

[soft thunder]

BA will prob get whoever has a jump pack

[languid meadow]

The ultramarines champ pack is only for heavy

so hopefully the DA is not class locked

[soft thunder]

seems like it will be

[languid meadow]

one can cope

[leaden pilot]

What I hate as a vanguard player is Rubrics teleporting away when I'm just one hit away from making them executable

[spring cairn]

iron hand pack is my white whale

with leg prosthetic

[soft thunder]

As a salamders fan, I'm coping hard that they might get some skins in year 2 season pass year-sub-gigapogchamp-bundle

[languid meadow]

all I want is the space wolves champ pack

I need pelts

but I know it's gonna be a class I don't play like vanguard

[leaden pilot]

And then I don't get that one armor that would get me at least some survivability, and then I'm either swarmed by tzaangors or shot to pieces by other Rubrics and cultists

[soft thunder]

I'd wager Blood Angels and maybe spacewolves or imperial fists will get their successor cosmetic gubbins in year 1

most popular ones etc to start it off w/

[arctic talon]

The most likely are BA and spave wolves

[leaden pilot]

Yeah you are probably right

[arctic talon]

the big 4 are BA, SW, DA, and UM

[languid meadow]

we will get 4 champ packs this year excluding DA and UM

[surreal nest]

Hope BA's dlc stuff includes some death company decals

[leaden pilot]

Raven Guard, Iron Hands will probably be last

[surreal nest]

White scars wont be getting shit till like 2026 i bet

We dont get to have joy here

[soft thunder]

White scars and sallies are my boys 😦

[surreal nest]

I'm worlds biggest and fastest white scar fan too but we suffer together

[languid meadow]

I need salamander armor

I need those scales

[leaden pilot]

I am lucky cause I'm basic and like the blueberries the most probably lmao

[soft thunder]

I can roll w/ the blueberries at least, anything w/ some filigree will let me cope.

[soft thunder]

I'm pretty sure this guy is a champion, right? Or was that for the uber platinum max bundle? You know the most expensive one

[languid meadow]

this is the ultra champ pack that is from the ultra edition

ultra all over the nids

[soft thunder]

also, RIP that nova marines and scythes got recolors/emblems but not raptors.

[soft thunder]

oh w8 no those aren't ultramarines, those are ravenguard

still, I like me raptors

[hasty coral]

Here is a fun question. What is it about 40k as a setting/story that really draws you in?

For me its the military sci-fi semi grounded fights/atmosphere with the touch of space magic.

[shell mason]

Ngl

[hasty coral]

At least in my experience I feel 40k strikes a great balance between the power of the physical and the mystical.

[shell mason]

this made my day

[hasty coral]

Also the Voice Acting goes a long way

[shell mason]

Also this

[crystal forum]

tanks

[soft thunder]

The late 20th century style fantasy art vibes (like Frazetta style compositions), especially in the older artwork and select contemporary artists. Adrian Smith's work to name one of the foundational artists of Warhammer.

Anyways artist's work, plus the memes and many other things really drew me in.

[crisp heath]

Does kurze have like, any cool moments?

Or is it just him punching down and being a goblin

[soft thunder]

He saved Lorgar, i think? That's all I really remember hearing he did.

[arctic talon]

How fucking awful the Imperium is

I also enjoy the aesthetic a ton

[rose thorn]

There is no lore about purple with orks

[paper haven]

What else did they lie about!?

[tough haven]

Guiliman has no relationship with yvraine, they have like 2 interactions and they could not be more aromantic

[outer wave]

Tech priests do not in fact want to make love to toasters

[languid meadow]

Kriegsmen aren't suicidal to a stupid degree and will retreat often

[mighty solstice]

doing the ocular equivalent of putting fingers in my ears and going NANANANA at this whole thread

[tough haven]

We will communicate it to you telepathically

Hook you up to a data inload

[languid meadow]

oh yeah and hive worlds aren't as common as people think

[tough haven]

Space marines die relatively easy with how much of a rocket tag the galaxy is

And the biggest one of all, say it with me kids

The imperium is satire and should not be idolized in any way shape or form

[languid meadow]

there is still 1000s of xeno and non imperium human civilizations in the galaxy ( just a fun fact I guess )

[green loom]

Countless

Like literally basically anything there

Well, maybe not countless

Since it's been the same ones over and over since at least 2012

[paper haven]

I'm not listening to these lies.

[storm jungle]

holy shit mortarion is literally me

[scenic bolt]

agriworlds arent idealic paradises, theyre so heavy infested with fertilizers and pesticides that being outside without a full body chemsuit is a death sentence. The idealic paradise is in universe propaganda to entice a steady supply of serfs to replace the massive bodycount.

[storm jungle]

I love people that hate Lords of Silence for that bit of lore

they really want their peaceful agriworlds so badly

[scenic bolt]

'but theres bright spots in the imperium!'

[green loom]

TBF we see Agri worlds that aren't really that extreme here and there

Idk why anyone's surprised there's horrid ones though

[arctic talon]

It makes sense theres horeidnones

[scenic bolt]

like people toss out the seminal paragraph of it being the cruelest and bloodiest regime

[arctic talon]

My only dislike is they say “every” agri world

When that isn’t the case

Like I’m sure most of them are fucking dogshit

But I don’t like the word “every” in the context of planets

[storm jungle]

How about

[green loom]

Book conflicts with book, go by preference

[storm jungle]

i tie you

to the front of a combine

[green loom]

Me first!

[scenic bolt]

real world agriculture is hell

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/combine-harvester-new-holland-tx32-moment-gif-2869878086825120276

[scenic bolt]

and thats current day

[storm jungle]

not even agriculture

industrial agriculture

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/baldurs-gate3-bg3-gnome-deep-gnome-fly-gif-19594962

[storm jungle]

like the author deffo looked into some of that shit when writing that planet

[arctic talon]

I’ll shove you into a wood chipper smh

[storm jungle]

the chemicals, the poisons, the mask usage etc

[arctic talon]

Yeah it’s researched

Lol

[tough haven]

Man, it’d be cool to hear about just one of those

[arctic talon]

It’s horrific industrial farming

[green loom]

Looks at California

[scenic bolt]

there's a reason farmer is despite the country have some of the highest death rates of any profession

[tough haven]

Maybe the occasional decent person or sweet ogryn that gets a horrible fate for their efforts

[languid meadow]

closest we'll get to is the deathwatch art or more tau stories about them (how silly of me to suggest such a thing)

[tough haven]

Looks at Brazil

[languid meadow]

I wish we'd know what the hell these guys are about

[outer wave]

Who the hell are these guys

[languid meadow]

we don't know

They are just there for world building

[outer wave]

They're cool, why are they cool and not explored

[paper haven]

I'm sure the pure agri worlds, the ones where the whole planet is turned into a giant field of grain, is quite toxic, but other worlds are less extreme.

[paper haven]

Next time use a gun

[outer wave]

Nah his buns were almost perfect for the job

[tough haven]

Throwaway xenos mentioned once to be fodder for a space marine chapter

That’s my bet

[green loom]

We know two of them

The mushrooms are a Tau aux

The ones next to them are the Barghesi I think

[opaque coyote]

Unfortunately it turns out that the Tyranids are hungry for CAKE

[tough haven]

Throwaway thing that will never have relevance or lore

[opaque coyote]

Tbh I kinda want to like

Draw the auxillaries

Especially the mushrooms and the giants

[tough haven]

Tau auxiliary species might as well not exist