Female ogryn in theory shouldn't be uncommon GW just didn't make models for them so they lack a design and thus presence for the most part
#40k-lore-chat
green loom
dawn zephyr
tank bread*
dawn zephyr
ah
dawn zephyr
They reproduce fine, how they came to be is anyone's guess
natural course of evolution to adapt to the harsh environment of a planet maybe
if we chose to settle Mars, Martian Humans would all be taller than Terrans after a few generations due to the low gravity
rocky gale
Yea they adapted to living on super high gravity worlds
Which should have made them smaller, but science didn't matter much to GW, so instead they became bigger
Because bigger = stronger
dawn zephyr
Might also develop stretchier muscles and cartilage to cope with the high change, and likely some cardiovascular changes to compensate for microgravity
height*
dawn zephyr
Which should have made them smaller, but science didn't matter much to GW, so in...
Elcore would like a word
outer wave
They reproduce fine, how they came to be is anyone's guess
We do know about that, dont we?
They were the result of humans being isolated on dangerous high-gravity worlds
green loom
Prolly idr 
dawn zephyr
Now is the reason for the cognitive differences a lack of education or purely a biological limitation?
rocky gale
Elcore would like a word
Different case, Elcor evolved naturally on a High Gravity world, whereas Ogryn are human settlers who evolved to adapt to High Gravity, so there's a baseline to compare it to
dawn zephyr
Different case, Elcor evolved naturally on a High Gravity world, whereas Ogryn a...
fair
outer wave
Now is the reason for the cognitive differences a lack of education or purely a ...
There's speculation (least from here) that the ogryns are kept stupid via simpler education and possibly(?) food poisoning, but also their brains have been known to be wired towards survival than higher-level thinking
opaque coyote
Female ogryn in theory shouldn't be uncommon GW just didn't make models for them...
GW is afraid they'd be called woke for an ugly female design
Y'know
Despite them being FUCKING OGYRNS
outer wave
GW is afraid they'd be called woke for an ugly female design
They're already being called woke though
opaque coyote
They're already being called woke though
Even more Woke
dawn zephyr
There is a line where they go to say "hound eliminated" but stop because for whatever reason
opaque coyote
More Woke than me trying to sleep
outer wave
Insomnia
opaque coyote
Fr
rocky gale
Now is the reason for the cognitive differences a lack of education or purely a ...
Bit of both it seems, they regressed technologically on own worlds for whatever reason but the Imperium does also keep them ignorant on purpose.
green loom
The potentially smart ones are chipped with bone 'ead implants which seemingly keeps them stupid via literally frying their brains
dawn zephyr
Bit of both it seems, they regressed technologically on own worlds for whatever ...
Yeah, I always thought by the way they talk that they seem capable of learning
opaque coyote
The bully I think goes on philosophical rants
The Bully occasionally has moments intelligence
Which makes me wonder if that's why he's the bully
He knows his position in society
But decides "Fuck it. Let me take the piss against others. I don't care anymore"
Kinda similar to the Loose Cannon Vet who also doesn't really care
dawn zephyr
To me their speech tendencies seem more like a limitation of their mouth structure than intelligence
green loom
Nah like one of them flat out does brief social commentary in like
opaque coyote
The potentially smart ones are chipped with bone 'ead implants which seemingly k...
I think that the Bone Head implants actually do increase intelligence. But they're always kept at a certain level
green loom
Reactor repair
opaque coyote
They can increase to human level or beyond
green loom
I think that the Bone Head implants actually do increase intelligence. But they'...
I like to think it keeps them loyal and limited
opaque coyote
But they just don't want to
outer wave
Tbf Ogryns are VERY loyal to their friends and family
It doesnt take much to keep them loyal to the Imperium
Just be nice to them and feed them, keep them company, comfort them a bit
dawn zephyr
Tbf Ogryns are VERY loyal to their friends and family
ong, I love having ogryns on my team, I never get tired of "Spark 'Ead"
green loom
The average ones, but what if they start getting smart and think beyond their social units
That's the scary part
opaque coyote
I like to think it keeps them loyal and limited
There is an Ogyrn is who incredibly verbose and intelligent who got shot in the head. And then somehow became far more intelligent
I think that on a genetic level their brains are suppressed somehow
outer wave
ong, I love having ogryns on my team, I never get tired of "Spark 'Ead"
This bit is exemplified in the Necromunda tabletop where you can play as slave Ogryns
Slave Ogryns apparently got very close brotherly bonds
green loom
There is an Ogyrn is who incredibly verbose and intelligent who got shot in the ...
Probably weird trauma-borne semi-psychic/physical handicap
opaque coyote
Probably weird trauma-borne semi-psychic/physical handicap
Weren't they found in like worlds that are harsh and such
dawn zephyr
Zealots and Veterans always call me "freak" when I'm just keeping everything stun locked for them 😔
opaque coyote
What if they are DAoT creations? Like the equivalent of strong but stupid slaves
paper haven
Isn't there a necromunda gang that's basically all vet grown brutes?
green loom
What if they are DAoT creations? Like the equivalent of strong but stupid slaves
Not unlikely
opaque coyote
Not unlikely
I mean the reason why mutations are a thing is partially because DAoT humanity fucked up the genome so badly that you can have a baby grow up to have 6 arms
So of course they would make a stable mutant slave species
shut thorn
anyone have that clip/vid of the white scars doing that suicide ride on terra during the horus heresy?
the lol we know one
rocky gale
Goliaths were originally genetically engineered to be slaves that were grown in vats, but eventually became their own race of abhuman
opaque coyote
Goliaths were originally genetically engineered to be slaves that were grown in ...
Yeah maybe a lot of Abhuman species are like that
outer wave
Why dont we see more Goliaths elsewhere outside of Necromunda?
Are they only produced on Necromunda?
paper haven
Goliaths were originally genetically engineered to be slaves that were grown in ...
Fun lore
They could be useful outside of necromunda.
opaque coyote
Are they only produced on Necromunda?
Apparently
Also they look like this
paper haven
They're tough and strong, smarter than ogryns
outer wave
But they're not Ogryns....
rocky gale
Well it depends
paper haven
They'd make great assault troops
opaque coyote
They could be useful outside of necromunda.
I wonder if any Imperial Fist tried to like
Turn a Goliath into a SM
rocky gale
Vatborn Goliaths also have problems with intelligence
paper haven
I wonder if any Imperial Fist tried to like
Turn a Goliath into a SM
Worth a try, at least
rocky gale
and most Goliaths are Vatborn
outer wave
I wonder if any Imperial Fist tried to like
Turn a Goliath into a SM
Probably incompatible with the geneseed for whatever reason
paper haven
Vatborn Goliaths also have problems with intelligence
I didn't say they were geniuses.
rocky gale
The Natborn are naturally born from Vatborn and they are smarter
opaque coyote
They're tough and strong, smarter than ogryns
Apparently they are stronger and tougher
And also far more automatically closer to people.
But they are seemingly slow in intelligence
Probably not Ogyrn slow though
arctic talon
Why dont we see more Goliaths elsewhere outside of Necromunda?
Munda only
rocky gale
I didn't say they were geniuses.
The thing about Vatborn is like they can't really learn very well
opaque coyote
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Goliaths are similar to like
Neanderthals to Homo Sapiens
rocky gale
They basically get flash indoctrinated everything they need to know in the Vat and then just do that
opaque coyote
Neanderthals actually had bigger brains and more intellect than us naturally
rocky gale
And don't develop much past that
opaque coyote
But they also didn't stick together in groups as often
So despite being stronger and smarter.
They died out while we lived on
rocky gale
Also the Imperium doesn't want to spread Vatborn throughout the Galaxy because of the creation process, but if the Vatborn population continues to grow and become more stable there are Imperial plans to seed them on other worlds as Abhumans
Like even on Necromunda the Nobles decided the Vatborn weren't worth it anymore, the only reason they're still being produced is the Goliaths became their own House and now control the production.
opaque coyote
Worth a try, at least
Also apparently they only have a lifespan of 10 years
...
Yeah that's probably why lmao
rocky gale
But even they want to eventually stop using Vatborn when Natborn become a stable population
rocky gale
Also apparently they only have a lifespan of 10 years
Natborn have a longer lifespan
opaque coyote
I wonder if any crazy Magos biologis decided to
Try and make Ogyrn SMs
Or something
Actually something similar to that does exist during the Horus heresy
paper haven
Also apparently they only have a lifespan of 10 years
Yeah but astartes upgrades will fix that
paper haven
But even they want to eventually stop using Vatborn when Natborn become a stable...
Where do they get the genetic material? Wouldn't inbreeding become an issue?
arctic talon
Vat born are like
arctic talon
Okay people use vatgrown and vatborn interchangeably a lot me included
rocky gale
Who are non Goliaths who are accepted into House Goliath and get enhancements
arctic talon
But vatgrown is more like taking a egg and fertilizing it
Then growing it in a tube
rocky gale
So Unborn are also part of the plan bringing in more genetic diversity
paper haven
Yeah but that still requires genetic material. Which is a limited resource, especially in the underhive, which I think is where most stuff happens
Didn't know about the unborn, that makes sense
hallow saddle
Fabulous Bill makes loads of vatborn things
paper haven
Yeah but... Would you really call those things human?
storm jungle
Zealots and Veterans always call me "freak" when I'm just keeping everything stu...
Its just like real life
I love being immersed!
dawn zephyr
Its just like real life
mood
onyx remnant
So who's gonna pull the plug on emps, y'all reckon GW has it in them to just go for it.
sacred ginkgo
No
onyx remnant
unfortunate
hopefully they don't pull Yvraine out and sprinkle magic fairy dust on him as well for a resurrection
fallen plaza
You think they’ll make it easier for anyone trying to do that?
languid meadow
I hope we get an actual conclusion to the whole golden throne situation (we never will)
nocturne crest
How fucked would it be if the emperor ended up growing another two arms due to the 4 armed emperor worship by GSC?
languid meadow
(space marine 2 stuff) I loved this little guy in the story
enjoyable little freak
dusk patrol
I was rooting for him
I kept hoping he’d be right but the obvious result was always there
onyx remnant
I hope we get an actual conclusion to the whole golden throne situation (we neve...
Me when the dark pact never went anywhere
thorn zenith
man it wouldve been the funniest shit ever if the guy was actually right and not bamboozled
imagine titus begrudgingly accepting that it works
crystal forum
just went into my first official warhammer store
i dont know what happened
3 hours have passed and i now have multiple paints, a HH rhino and the night lords omnibus
crystal forum
also the GW employee said something big about killteam is coming sunday
can't wait
errant yacht
So who's gonna pull the plug on emps, y'all reckon GW has it in them to just go ...
The death of the Emperor would mean the extinction of humanity.
GW can't sell Space Marines if the human race is extinct
onyx remnant
The death of the Emperor would mean the extinction of humanity.
GW can't sell S...
I kinda wanna see an ending to it, finally letting go and how the "imperium" can manage in the absence of it.
Papa smurf is alive, he can try to do his own empire this time.
errant yacht
It wouldn't be an empire, it'd be a resistance.
languid meadow
I mean ultramar might as well be an empire already
onyx remnant
They could also search for vulkan while they're at it.
One piece is easier to find than this guy.
rose thorn
I’ve been getting really into darkest dungeon lore 
tough haven
I’ve been getting really into darkest dungeon lore <:artifoam:113536110257897896...
YEEEEES!!!
I LOVE DARKEST DUNGEON!!!
rose thorn
I had a huge conversation with my friend about the character of The Duelist and what she regrets at her shrine of reflection
fleet parcel
I thought it was a joke, it wasn't
A: That's a good weapon
B: I know
A: Good talk
Actual banter from the game
plush mason
yeah any time you have the heavy the banter is ass
vanguard and assault have the best banter which sadly isnt much
rose thorn
PLSS I FOGOT TO BRING STRESS HEALING PLSSS LET ME PLAY BUTCHERS CIRCUSSS
shell barn
Just discovered the Exorcists this may be my favorite successor chapter
opaque coyote
Bounty Hunter be like
"..."
casually does 89 damage
"..."
Darkest Dungeon 1 is a great game
A bit too RNG focused at times even for it
Like there are some cases where you can just get fucked irrecoverably
But it's a fun game regardless
Haven't tried II yet
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/darkest-dungeon-ancestor-gif-21405227
RUIN HAS COME TO OUR FAMILY
paper haven
The voiceovers made that game great
dusk patrol
Just discovered the Exorcists this may be my favorite successor chapter
They’re cool
winter vessel
They’re cool
ah the Exorcists. Unlike the Grey Knights, these guys took the hardcore route of being resistant to daemonic possession
dusk patrol
Idk if I’d say the GKs way isn’t hardcore too
winter vessel
don't know the right word for it. "harder" i guess
dusk patrol
But it’s a interesting concept
shell barn
Yeah I just saw their skin in SM2 and was like
“This looks neat. I wonder what their deal is… oh that’s metal as hell.”
raven stone
We should have Primaris scaled Deathwatch skins…
crisp heath
Do Emperor's Spears have a skin in SM2?
Damn they don't and Carcharodons look too clean to be real space sharks
fallen plaza
Damn they don't and Carcharodons look too clean to be real space sharks
You can just play the game and make them dirty
paper haven
What do you guys think?
fallen plaza
What do you guys think?
World eaters?
paper haven
Yep
paper haven
Can't see the icon from this angle
fallen plaza
The blue in here is a little too muted
paper haven
I did my best with the limited options
fallen plaza
I reccomend you go with the late heresy scheme
Where there shoulders are red
Makes it pop more
paper haven
I thought about it
But I wanted pre-heresy colors more than late heresy.
Problem is that the blue I need is only available for one shoulder.
fallen plaza
Bummer
paper haven
I shall persevere, however. World Eaters deserve it.
fallen plaza
Zased color choice
celest dome
Dilara?
shell mason
Yes
small grail
New imperium finance announcement done by me
After heresy we have 78 billion
Atrocious amounts
shell mason
And I say no
why you hating Zimmy
fallen plaza
why you hating Zimmy
shell mason
<:KevinMhyehhYess:1147666246792396880>
Aye hunter the parenting
onyx remnant
It is time to write my 40K story 
small grail
It is time to write my 40K story <:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
What're u gonna make
onyx remnant
What're u gonna make
tl;dr while everyone is busy with what's happening in the west a splintered tyranid force is seemingly pushing from the veiled region threatening several unknown planets at first and onto bakka later.
raven stone
North and Western Segments tend to be overused, yea
North because Eye of Terror
West because largest
small grail
tl;dr while everyone is busy with what's happening in the west a splintered tyra...
Nice idea
shell mason
don't forget Vulkan is taller than a dreadnought
onyx remnant
It's nothing too creative, just wanna focus a little bit on local defense forces and the imperial navy a little later on.
leaden pilot
West because largest
Isn't East the largest?
fallen plaza
Question
Has a space marine ever looked good riding a steed of any kind
Not counting bikes ofc
green loom
The jug lord is p cool
celest dome
Don't Death Guard have SM on Plague Flies ? Or was it just Chaos Warrior
queen laurel
now that i think about it only really one space marine loyalist chapter tames something and rides it into battle, that being space wolves riding fenrisian wolves
i do not know other space marine loyalist chapters that have the culture of taming a creature and turning it into cavalry
rocky gale
Forget mounted Space Marines
green loom
Lumineth horses?
rocky gale
Yea Lumineth Dawnriders for the hoses and legs, then upperbody are Zepharim
green loom
Fancy
fallen plaza
The jug lord is p cool
This sorta what I mean when I say a lot of them don't look good riding, mainly the space wolf stuff and there steeds, where they just look like there hovering over the wolf
fallen plaza
Yeah this one at least looks like he's sitting
tough haven
Have you seen the ending to 2 yet?
Yes, currently doing every infernal flame
tough haven
i do not know other space marine loyalist chapters that have the culture of tami...
Why have cavalry when you can have BETTER cavalry with bikes
tough haven
Ok this looks peak as hell
fallen plaza
You know
After seeing SM2 clips and watching calgar fight
Made me realize dual wrist mounted guns do not look good when doing any action pose
storm jungle
Again a case of "looks good static awful in motion"
its why primaris fibre-asses are everywhere
😭
fallen plaza
It doesnt help that he’s also dual wielding powerfist
So his silluette looks really dumb in motion
🗿
fallen plaza
Makes me curious how well cawl would move in animation
storm jungle
Jokes aside id say pretty well
a large majority of his body is hidden under a robe
you'd only get small legs/robotic segments moving forwards and backwards on the sides like a centipede
classic animation loopholes/tricks mostly
fallen plaza
That makes me curious
What mini would look awful adapted into animation
I think centurions are a good bet, unless there proportions are fixed
storm jungle
Was literally gonna say lol
storm jungle
the games TEND to do a good job mostly
even since dawn of war, at least they try lol
outer wave
I miss old Chaos Dreadnaughts
queen laurel
the games TEND to do a good job mostly
that Dreadnought absolutely chucking the statue at the drake was premium
fallen marsh
I miss old Chaos Dreadnaughts
Its shame that they never got added into the DoW1 or DoW2
outer wave
I thought they were already in DoW2?
fallen plaza
I miss old Chaos Dreadnaughts
Fr the FW boxdreads are the definitive dreads for me
fallen marsh
But no cool hand
outer wave
Like yeah they got kind of a dumb boxy look to them
fallen marsh
outer wave
But they're also relatively simple in comparison to Helbrutes?
outer wave
I like to headcanon that Helbrutes are the result of being in a Dread for too long while being exposed to chaos
storm jungle
Helbrutes are hideous anyways
They would be great as a "upgraded" dread
fallen plaza
Its not too far off
outer wave
^
storm jungle
like you got a regular dread you can use and a helbrute is just a more mutated one
i dont really like being forced to get a helbrute if i want a dread
storm jungle
I like to headcanon that Helbrutes are the result of being in a Dread for too lo...
OH YEAH thats literally what helbrutes are lol
its just that... people want metal dreads
fallen plaza
In 30k word bearers had a dedicated chaos dread
queen laurel
i dont really like being forced to get a helbrute if i want a dread
What's the lore differences anyway
fallen plaza
It is trash lmao
queen laurel
One one is just mutated the other is just metal?
storm jungle
What's the lore differences anyway
Normal dread, box tank
Helbrute, muscle-meat tank
fallen plaza
Staying near it slowly kills your units
crystal forum
i dont really like being forced to get a helbrute if i want a dread
you own a dread?
queen laurel
>Normal dread, box tank
>Helbrute, muscle-meat tank
Aight i will keep that in mind
storm jungle
you own a dread?
I meant if i bought one. Dreadnaughts are more appealing compared to just a meat-man riding a dread
fallen marsh
its just that... people want metal dreads
Because if game goes wrong, you can always throw them at opponent
crystal forum
I meant if i bought one. Dreadnaughts are more appealing compared to just a meat...
so you're going to buy models?
storm jungle
Because if game goes wrong, you can always throw them at opponent
at your opponent?
if so i approve
BASED EDIT
crystal forum
storm jungle
so you're going to buy models?
Im not a sociopath so no
you guys enjoy yourselves
queen laurel
The only thing dilara will spend money on for warhammer is books
And rule books for lore
Other than that basically nothing
storm jungle
Yep more or less correct lol
fallen plaza
As big of a FW glazer i am, i just cannot like this dread frankly, like what the hell is going on
crystal forum
i love my plastic army men
storm jungle
I appreciate the idea
i really do
but like...
this literally looks like someone just put their breakfast bacon into a dreadnaught lol
and broke it with a hammer
outer wave
I want the evolution tree to be like
crystal forum
not a chaos fan i see
fallen plaza
crystal forum
khorne shit is just meat themed
shadow plover
As big of a FW glazer i am, i just cannot like this dread frankly, like what the...
that picture isnt doing any favours either 
outer wave
Chaos Dread -> Helbrute -> Taller, bigger, uglier Helbrute (Hellbrute) -> Even TALLER, bigger, uglier Hellbrute (HELLLbrute)
fallen plaza
not a chaos fan i see
I like chaos, but the zhardu layak is a good example of gross models done well, this isnt kek
outer wave
khorne shit is just meat themed
Also my biggest issue
Helbrutes for dedicated gods are all the same
Nurgle, Tzeentch, Khorne, Slaanesh--all meaty meat men
crystal forum
i love man meat
fallen plaza
Get it? He means cock.
outer wave
Why couldnt the Tzeentch one at least have a book theme or some shit? Or a ghost-y theme idk
crystal forum
Why couldnt the Tzeentch one at least have a book theme or some shit? Or a ghost...
reads books aggressively
fallen plaza
It’s mostly a model limitation
Your better off kitbashing your own tbh
But at the same time
You know there gonna use that samey model in a flim adaptation instead of taking advantage of the medium
outer wave
I just wish there was more variety
GW has money, its not like they're a small company that are limited in resources and shit
fallen plaza
GW: nah, let’s instead give you studded shoulderpads with big seamlines
celest dome
The Titus situation really highlight how SM fans see themselves from the wider Imperium.
Leandros had quite a few reasons to think that Titus was strange and might have some Chaos corruption.
And if the Codex does say "In case of Chaos suspicion, don't warn the Inquisition but deal it internally with the Chaplain", then the Inquisition, aided by the Custodes, and most Imperial Guard regiments would start to decimate the SM. It's just insubordination at the very least, or heresy at the regular
How I see the ||Leandros ||situation
storm jungle
I mean yeah its not wrong lol
Leandros did more or less the expected thing from a brainwashed supersoldier
young pecan
That fucking bird that I hate
storm jungle
celest dome
> The Titus situation really highlight how SM fans see themselves from the wider...
Reply I got for this comment:
The book was written before the Inquisition were a thing..
So while going to the Inquisition is definitely something to do, it's not the first thing.
First step when you suspect it, is to report it to a Chaplain.
The Chaplain is then the person that decides how to deal with it. Require penance in some way (usually things like going into battle without ammo or with striped down armour or something),
Can determine there's nothing wrong
Could execute them themselves
Or report to Inquisition for further investigation.
The Marines do a lot of things the Imperium would consider Heresy, but they're marines, what you gonna do about it.
For one, most of then hold to the Imperial truth and don't believe emps is a god
Single comment
storm jungle
There was literally no chaplain on the scene and it was after a big chaos invasion.
Also "what are you gonna do about it"
lol lmao
Months of Shame much 💀
celest dome
Also I'm not certain on the timeline of Inqusition compared to codex being written
storm jungle
Its timeline doesnt exactly matter.
Like Leandros essentially did the "acceptable" thing at the end of game 1.
queen laurel
Like Leandros essentially did the "acceptable" thing at the end of game 1.
As much of A stickler he is for rules I do understand where he is coming from
Literally in the second game as well warp exposure it's one of the most brought up things Titus does
he literally held a pure warp battery on his hands and didn't even suffer much damage
hallow plover
Titus spends the game telling Leandros to go out of the box and think from himself and the moment he does that he hands Titus to the inquisition. ||then he goes back to being a codex purist chaplain in sm2||
But his doubts about Titus were reasonable
queen laurel
But his doubts about Titus were reasonable
As much as I like Titus I really want to know why and how the **** can you hold the pure warp battery on your hands without melting into a gooey mess
hallow plover
We'll know either in a DLC or SM3
shell mason
sup ya'll
celest dome
Titus spends the game telling Leandros to go out of the box and think from himse...
Well there are other parts where Leandros does show initiative
shell mason
that a fucking mod?
celest dome
Also such fun to see the FuckLeandros sub coping about ||Chaplain|| being a punishment rank or something 
Sorry for the spoiler
storm jungle
Its not even a spoiler anymore tbh
4 of my fucking friends guessed it in like two sessions
LMAO
fallen plaza
Like Leandros essentially did the "acceptable" thing at the end of game 1.
Even if it is a right thing, a lot of irl militaries dont like to report a lot of issues to other authorities to avoid shame and usually deal with it themselves, so in a way telling the inquisition was the equivalent of snitching, at least thats how i interpreted it
storm jungle
Even if it is a right thing, a lot of irl militaries dont like to report a lot o...
Okay but the issue is this isn't the military, and the Imperium is very backwards.
It WAS absolutely snitching however
but i do like how GW was like
"No we gotta get titus back"
marks Inquisitor Thrax as a gooner who stores space marines in cryostasis for heresy for some reason
like that was fucking WILD
queen laurel
>marks Inquisitor Thrax as a gooner who stores space marines in cryostasis for h...
And in a funny twist of irony turns out he gets possessed by a demon and gets obliterated by the grey knights
fallen plaza
Okay but the issue is this isn't the military, and the Imperium is very backward...
Yeah but when you have a tight knit warrior community i imagine they would react the same
But yeah, it was snitching
storm jungle
Yeah they literally had to make the Inquisitor as wrong as possible to get Titus back.
Its actually a bit comical.
if they wanted to do more they'd have made him have exterminatus'd like 10 chapter worlds or something
fallen plaza
Still better than the original idea for sm2
queen laurel
Yeah they literally had to make the Inquisitor as wrong as possible to get Titus...
How do we save this beloved character for a second game
Throw the inquisitor b**** at chaos
fallen plaza
Where they wanted him to start his own chapter
leaden pilot
Where they wanted him to start his own chapter
Wait they did? lmao
rocky gale
Good ole Titus, Chapter Master of the Sons of Titus
fallen marsh
That would be fun
celest dome
Honestly have the Inquisitor pull out Titus and many other SM out of cold storage to be used. With Titus being made to work alongside SM that actually seem even more suspicious than what he is, while other don't seem more suspicious but actually still id
dusk patrol
He and the other marines were checked for chaos taint and then Titus rejected returning to the chapter and became a Deathwatch Blackshield instead
celest dome
Is Calgar even referring to that issue ? Like at all ?
dusk patrol
I think it’s more just a complicated situation and he’s happy it seems to be resolved
It’s not like they could find him until they did, he had taken another name and no one inside DW who knew would say where he was
paper haven
Every chaos enemy has mentioned that Titus seemed likely to join them. Of course that could just be chaos mind games
dusk patrol
As Leandros said he had more than served his penance and was cleared so that’s that.
It had been 200 years since Graia
queen laurel
As Leandros said he had more than served his penance and was cleared so that’s t...
Yeah from the sound of it he did calm himself a lot more after the years
dusk patrol
Leandros still isn’t gonna ever fully trust him because that’s his job
queen laurel
Leandros still isn’t gonna ever fully trust him because that’s his job
I'm pretty sure he also heard what happened to titus and was like,
Okay i did suspect him but i did not know that inquisitor was a piece of shit
dusk patrol
He’s always gonna be watching him and waiting to see if he turns
rocky gale
Yeah they literally had to make the Inquisitor as wrong as possible to get Titus...
It doesn't even really make sense tbh, because like at the end of SM1 Thrax doesn't even disarm Titus or anything, he's just like "Yea you've got to come with me so we can check this out" it's treated like a fairly routine inspection rather than "Oh no Titus is going to be locked up forever"
dusk patrol
I mean would you prefer he like
Cackle evilly
Obviously they didn’t have that plan yet for him
But it’s not like he has to act all evil and conniving
storm jungle
It doesn't even really make sense tbh, because like at the end of SM1 Thrax does...
Yeah the Inquisitor acts very orderly.
rocky gale
Yea but that's the point, they turned him evil to justify Titus being locked up, but the implication wasn't that Titus was going to be locked up
storm jungle
Its very badly written and tacked on
hes literally comically evil just to get Titus off the hook
dusk patrol
He can be both orderly and whatever and also be goofy evil
dusk patrol
It makes as much sense as any other inquisitor quirk in 40k
An inquisitor who hates marines isn’t really that crazy of an idea
rocky gale
Just seems odd like he hates Space Marines sure, but surely then he would disarm the Space Marine he was arresting
dusk patrol
Why?
rocky gale
Because you typically take someones weapon away when arresting them
celest dome
Cause that's standard procedure when you are arresting someone
storm jungle
I can kinda get where shes coming from.
dusk patrol
He was complying and maybe they did it the next five seconds in the super short cutscene
storm jungle
At no point do you really get the vibe that this guy is gonna put Titus in a jar.
rocky gale
Him not taking Titus' weapon is unusual for the situation
celest dome
Feel like we're back to that Custodes vs Primaris short story
storm jungle
Why is he even here with black templars then
just random escorts because he hates marines?
winter vessel
But off innit
dusk patrol
At no point do you really get the vibe that this guy is gonna put Titus in a jar...
Well yeah because it wasn’t the story then, but we also learn nothing about the guy
storm jungle
Well yeah because it wasn’t the story then, but we also learn nothing about the ...
Yeah but the addition is still goofy
you can get titus off the hook without going into something this dumb
dusk patrol
He shows up for 20 seconds, noting about his appearance indicates anything
storm jungle
like just make him some more normal-tier evil inquisitors instead of storing astartes in collectible packs
paper haven
There are fairly consistent ways to test for corruption.
dusk patrol
That’s very normal tier evil inquisitor
The dude wasn’t even that evil by inquisitor standards
storm jungle
This just comes across as bad writing cope tbh.
winter vessel
Initially I thought the inquisitor was putting on a show, but secretly was backing Titus. Like a “I’m on your side if you comply”. But no, he just dislikes Astartes
queen laurel
you can get titus off the hook without going into something this dumb
like i don't know, investigate him for corruption only for him to turn up clean and get sent back to the chapter
storm jungle
like i don't know, investigate him for corruption only for him to turn up clean ...
Pretty much.
this is just kinda weak
dusk patrol
He wasn’t even like fallen or whatever or that radical
winter vessel
It’s lame for an off screen death
dusk patrol
Hating marines isn’t even that crazy for the inquisition
storm jungle
Its not really hating marines, its more how Titus ends up where he does
Like theres nothing wrong with admitting this is silly
i dont know why this is such a debating point
opaque coyote
I mean to be honest Inquisitors are kinda
dusk patrol
It doesn’t really matter to me much for that part I just think it’s silly that he would somehow obviously telegraph all this in a 20 second interaction we see him in
opaque coyote
Differing in opinions because they are
Gasp
PEOPLE???
dusk patrol
There’s no rules for inquisitors either really
storm jungle
It doesn’t really matter to me much for that part I just think it’s silly that h...
We are just saying its more silly that this lore gets tacked onto him judging from his actions in SM1.
you are just kinda focusing on the wrong thing again
opaque coyote
I think the Sisters are also generally uncomfortable with SMs as well right?
dusk patrol
I’m focusing on what I was responding to
storm jungle
If you say so lol
storm jungle
I think the Sisters are also generally uncomfortable with SMs as well right?
Generally yeah
they are still mutants
winter vessel
I think the Sisters are also generally uncomfortable with SMs as well right?
Yeah
dusk patrol
The idea of an inquisitor who, for reasons we don’t know that are myriad, has a grudge against marines isn’t that wild
storm jungle
Theres also stories where they outright show hostility to marines as well
dusk patrol
We’ve seen two others major inquisitors with similar deals in books which the plot revolves around
storm jungle
like sometimes to extreme levels lol
dusk patrol
Probably more
dense dawn
Question
Is the omnissiah the emperah
opaque coyote
Generally yeah
I'm just imagining a Sister going on the equivalent of like
4chan or something
Ranting about how SMs are a bunch of filthy, unclean, mutants
dusk patrol
Question
Is the omnissiah the emperah
Yes and no
storm jungle
Question
Is the omnissiah the emperah
Its the Emperor
winter vessel
That reminds me, I gotta continue my audiobook listening of the Celestial Lions
dusk patrol
Yes to the Ad Mech religiously
opaque coyote
Question
Is the omnissiah the emperah
Idk let's ask the Mechanicu-
And they separated
Why are they shoving Daemons inside a toaster now?
dusk patrol
Ad Mech has a trinity thing
dense dawn
hes basically the Messiah of the Machine God
So basically the adeptus mechanicus believe he's the jesus christ of technology
dusk patrol
Machine God, Omnissiah, Motive Force
storm jungle
So basically the adeptus mechanicus believe he's the jesus christ of technology
Pretty much
and this isnt really true
he just made them believe he is
dense dawn
Bruh
storm jungle
by touching a broken tech thingy and making it work
opaque coyote
and this isnt really true
Void Dragon honk miming in Mars
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
Maybe, it’s not clear and we don’t know, there’s stuff to suggest he is and isn’t and those who are aware of the distinction have arguments both ways when it comes up
dense dawn
Okay all this time the mechanicus people were kinda smart...
dusk patrol
They are and aren’t
storm jungle
well mostly
dense dawn
Void Dragon honk miming in Mars
Wut's the void dragon
dusk patrol
It depends on what field
dusk patrol
Wut's the void dragon
C’tan shard
storm jungle
rocky gale
They changed the Mechanicum to the Mechanicus, typical woke GW
dense dawn
Is that like a warp spider like meme or..
dusk patrol
Also it’s never confirmed it’s there or what influence it has
storm jungle
They changed the Mechanicum to the Mechanicus, typical woke GW
pretty fucked up...
but basically its under Mars
and was put there by the Emperor
dusk patrol
It’s implied to be there largely in one book
storm jungle
we dont know much about its abode aside from a few things
so there isnt that much lore on it atm
dense dawn
So there's a literally fucking dragon under mars
dusk patrol
We don’t even know if it was out there by him or was just there and beaten by him
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much.
dusk patrol
So there's a literally fucking dragon under mars
It’s not a real dragon like you think if it is
opaque coyote
obviously not everyone bought it
To be fair
You see a man wearing golden power armor walk in the poisonous air of Mars. Seemingly without any technology. Wielding a flaming sword, and radiating light.
Glowing and filled with radiant energy. He literally just touches a piece of technology that has been broken for centuries. People have been trying to figure out how to repair it.
And then it magically gets fixed
Idk about you, but I'd bow the fuck down.
dense dawn
And terra is earth right?
So it's not very far away to the throne world
dense dawn
It’s a name for a C’tan
What were the ctan I forgor
storm jungle
To be fair
You see a man wearing golden power armor walk in the poisonous air o...
Yeah but people also worship dumber things IRL, you can get people to worship a rock given enough time.
well that and fiction can be pretty convincing
dusk patrol
What were the ctan I forgor
Space god things which fed on stars and souls
rocky gale
If I remember rightly there's also the implication that the Emperor fighting the Void Dragon inspired the Legend of St George
dusk patrol
Necrons shattered them
dusk patrol
If I remember rightly there's also the implication that the Emperor fighting the...
Yes
storm jungle
If I remember rightly there's also the implication that the Emperor fighting the...
Its not really an implication its outright said
dense dawn
Space god things which fed on stars and souls
Ohh
The mfs that enslaved necrons
storm jungle
but its written flowery enough to kinda leave it as is
dense dawn
Or smt
rocky gale
Oh nice, haven't read the book
dusk patrol
To be fair
You see a man wearing golden power armor walk in the poisonous air o...
It also was a political decision, a lot were aware he probably wasn’t the Omnissiah or was just using that but they needed Terra and Saturns support to expand to their forge worlds and find stuff
It’s complicated basically
opaque coyote
Its not really an implication its outright said
It's funny to imagine the Emperor with like
Regular Knight Armor running towards the Void Dragon like it's Dark Souls
storm jungle
We dont really know what he did
he probably used his mary sue psyker powers
and blew it up
Then it just got mytho'd
dusk patrol
He wasn’t that strong back then but regardless it’s meant to be unclear and ambiguous what it all means
And if it’s even true
fallen plaza
Yeah but people also worship dumber things IRL, you can get people to worship a ...
There was a jesus statue that people mistook for a bearded woman, she is considered a saint now
dusk patrol
And please let it never be actually shown
storm jungle
There was a jesus statue that people mistook for a bearded woman, she is conside...
Yeah pretty much lol
opaque coyote
he probably used his mary sue psyker powers
I think he was just a normal perpetual back then.
So
Basically he played Dark Souls
storm jungle
why anyone in this fandom thinks things will remian mysteries lol
dusk patrol
why anyone in this fandom thinks things will remian mysteries lol
Because some stuff does
storm jungle
slop novels will explain slop subjects from the past
storm jungle
Because some stuff does
Yeah
opaque coyote
Emperor Roll Spamming fr
fallen plaza
Sloppa
dusk patrol
Tbh this one doesn’t matter much
storm jungle
Like further in the future we are absolutely gonna learn shit like where tyranids come from
because they cannot resist
storm jungle
its the same with any fictional setting
dusk patrol
It’s up to them
opaque coyote
There was a jesus statue that people mistook for a bearded woman, she is conside...
Congratulations for her ig
dusk patrol
This isn’t some deep point
fallen marsh
Like further in the future we are absolutely gonna learn shit like where tyranid...
And most likely it will be something stupid.
storm jungle
Its not really suppose to be deep
dusk patrol
Yes if Gamesworkshop decides to reveal it they will
storm jungle
its suppose to provide entertainment and wojakpoint moments
Like we didnt need to know what attracted the nids here
and they revealed it in a literal post-book moment
for no reason lol
dusk patrol
Yes if Games workshop decides to not reveal it they won’t
dusk patrol
It’s just a pointless discussion
dusk patrol
Or it might not lol
storm jungle
If I went back in time and said the Gathering Storm was gonna happen people would say "lol it wont happen".
dusk patrol
You don’t know and I don’t
storm jungle
its pretty much the same here
fallen plaza
Congratulations for her ig
Sort of related but Cargo cults and there existance will never not be funny to me because the fact we discovered them and then decided “yeah no, lets not tell them”
dusk patrol
If I went back in time and said the Gathering Storm was gonna happen people woul...
And I would say “if they decide to then I can see it” because we’re not talking about people and idc what “people” think
storm jungle
And I would say “if they decide to then I can see it” because we’re not talking ...
its mostly the path authors take because they gotta provide "oh shit" moments for casual or old readers that know the material to some extent and create talking points for again no reason.
Its an expected path.
dusk patrol
We could get a war in Heaven series ten years from now, or it could never really be expanded on much beyond small snippets like we get now. We don’t know.
storm jungle
Yeah I got the gist Mr Semantics.
dusk patrol
You’re the one talking in absolutes
storm jungle
LMAO
dusk patrol
I’m the one taking a vaguely measured stance
storm jungle
Okay thats a bit much but yeah not wrong
fallen plaza
Sigh
storm jungle
I’m the one taking a vaguely measured stance
Your stances arent much beyond "who cares" and pointless arguments you also argue against so beats me.
dusk patrol
I agreed they could, just as much as it could also never be fully explained or talked about again
storm jungle
Agree to disagree.
fallen plaza
Good
storm jungle
again, as usual
paper haven
Is this a common thing?
fallen plaza
Now kiss
forest orbit
Is this a common thing?
He tends to do it a lot
outer wave
I hope Morrow's first name is Eugene so this meme format hits harder
forest orbit
its pretty funny though i cant complain
storm jungle
I hope Morrow's first name is Eugene so this meme format hits harder
his first name is Vincent
no this isnt a meme
rocky gale
Sgt Vinnie
rocky gale
Sgt Vinnie
Gets blasted out the airlock for calling Morrow Sgt Vinnie to his face
dusk patrol
Is this a common thing?
People like to throw pointless little snide jabs and make bad faith generalizations about me while I’m arguing a point.
storm jungle
forest orbit
People like to throw pointless little snide jabs and make bad faith generalizati...
No you are like legit annoying.
dusk patrol
I don’t care if they complain, I care if what I’m doing is actually wrong
Which it isn’t
fallen plaza
No you are like legit annoying.
If he is seriously the thing thats enough to peeve you, then eternal isnt the issue, because if i recall, discord tos doesnt allow babies
queen laurel
I don’t care if they complain, I care if what I’m doing is actually wrong
Oh boy look at that another i don't care
forest orbit
If he is seriously the thing thats enough to peeve you, then eternal isnt the is...
I was about to say I wasnt the one sending DMs to Dil but i might now, i didnt know we could do that
storm jungle
Ugh god here we go again.
dusk patrol
Oh boy look at that another i don't care
Like this for example
queen laurel
I Mean you do it everyday it's kind of predictable now
fallen plaza
I was about to say I wasnt the one sending DMs to Dil but i might now, i didnt k...
Glad i could help
forest orbit
Like this for example
Either way like I mean no offense but while you can be sometimes fun to talk to you are genuinely extremely annoying when you cant just shut up and go "agree to disagree" and just gotta have a high ground constantly, and then call the people arguing with you a strawman.
storm jungle
Well either way take it to DMs i guess lol
fallen plaza
Take your pacifier with you too
dusk patrol
Either way like I mean no offense but while you can be sometimes fun to talk to ...
I enjoy talking to basically everyone here except when I don’t think people are being good faith or are misrepresenting my views
storm jungle
Take your pacifier with you too
You knock it off too
And again
DMs.
last warning before I start timing people out at this point.
fallen plaza
You guys take it there
rocky gale
Sometimes I open Lore chat and it's like watching those big Elephant seals slapping into eachother
fallen plaza
Ive eaten a lot, yet i still crave more
outer wave
Sometimes I open Lore chat and it's like watching those big Elephant seals slapp...
Elephant seals are so cool
They're big, scary, and yet funky lookin' creatures
rocky gale
I like the big floppy noses
outer wave
Sunfish are so cool
dusk patrol
Dangerous as fuck though
outer wave
They're big silly guys
dusk patrol
They’re definitely that
outer wave
Oh yeah elephant seals are dangerous
dusk patrol
rocky gale
I feel like he's judging me
dusk patrol
I do like when we name stuff using other animal names
fallen plaza
You know what terrifies me more than big and fast animals
Monkeys
I fucking hate those shitheads
rocky gale
He's got the same energy as the homophobic dog
dusk patrol
Chimps are scarier imo
queen laurel
Chimps know how to torture people and openly do so
fallen plaza
Any ape is nasty, from chimpan a to chimpanzee
fallen plaza
Nah its valid
queen laurel
The face ripping off part I think
Not the part that the fact that they will also rip you apart limb from limb?
rocky gale
Orangutans are cool though
dusk patrol
Not the part that the fact that they will also rip you apart limb from limb?
Although idk maybe it would improve my look
fallen plaza
Any excuse to get prosthetic’s amiright?
queen laurel
Sharks got hoed
They are most of the time would rather avoid humans
Dolphins though
Fuck them
dusk patrol
Orangutans seem chill but idk if I’m just seeing too much orangutan propaganda
fallen plaza
queen laurel
Or they’ll fuck you
Do not remind me of that experimentation
celest dome
Shark are sea dogs.
🦈
rocky gale
Like as far as we can tell there has never been a recorded case of an Orangutan killing a person
queen laurel
Shark are sea dogs.
🦈
And the fact that they avoid areas with killer whales tells me all i need to know
fallen plaza
Or they’ll fuck you
The dolphin experiment still kinda bothers me to this day
rocky gale
They're just chill dudes
dusk patrol
It’s really fucking weird
fallen plaza
What where those scientists smoking
dusk patrol
Like as far as we can tell there has never been a recorded case of an Orangutan ...
That does surprise me
dusk patrol
What where those scientists smoking
Beastiality
spring cairn
You can smoke that no way
dusk patrol
I refuse to believe someone up high wasn’t just getting off to that
arctic talon
Idk
queen laurel
If we're going by disgusting though
arctic talon
Prolly not
dusk patrol
Isn’t it like kills kids or something
queen laurel
I feel like I remember this
It's the penguin that would fuck a decapitated head
spring cairn
But I can’t recall what it does
porbably fuck corpses or some other shit
there you go
queen laurel
And the literal ground
outer wave
fallen plaza
I was gonna say killing children is pretty common for animals
But skull fucking is definitely unique yeah
spring cairn
it's an industry standard, killing children that is
opaque coyote
it's an industry standard, killing children that is
Emperor approved
spring cairn
if you're a non-human animal
dusk patrol
Yeah yeah the infanticide, we’ve all seen it
arctic talon
fallen plaza
Heck humans for period of time viewed children as disposable
dusk patrol
https://tenor.com/view/elephant-seal-running-run-seal-big-gif-21499846
OH LAWD HE COMIN
dusk patrol
Heck humans for period of time viewed children as disposable
Viewed?
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/elephant-seal-running-run-seal-big-gif-21499846
The seals be like
"Ayo wtf bruh"
outer wave
The ogre merc seeing a burger across the bar
arctic talon
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
It’s ok
rocky gale
Oh
spring cairn
It's grombrindal the white dwarin or whatever they call them
queen laurel
Is that supposed to be the dread king
dusk patrol
When does anniversary stuff come out
arctic talon
dusk patrol
I like the float effect he has
queen laurel
skeletons in armor
Skeleton king diablo maxing
dusk patrol
But yeah the Nighthaunt stuff, some I love
dusk patrol
Some are eh for me
fallen plaza
they all look the same
Aos kinda does them cool though
spring cairn
meh
fallen plaza
We need more big units for aos
fallen plaza
Wheres my goblinhewer for fyreslayers
arctic talon
Fyreslayers get giant lizard
fallen plaza
Lame
fallen plaza
Where are the vehicles
arctic talon
Cities of ligmar
fallen plaza
The artillery
arctic talon
Khadron
queen laurel
dwarfs riding beasts
Well they are the slayer equivalent and they are definitely the type to ride a monster when it gets them killed
dusk patrol
Like these are the only two Mortarchs I like really as models
spring cairn
give fyreslayers motorcycle you cowards
spring cairn
Well they are the slayer equivalent and they are definitely the type to ride a m...
no dwarf would ever trust a beast enough to ride it
arctic talon
If we include cannons as “vehicles”
fallen plaza
And no skaven dont count, those have been there since fantasy
arctic talon
They have new ones
dusk patrol
no dwarf would ever trust a beast enough to ride it
Except your mom
arctic talon
So those count
dusk patrol
spring cairn
a low blow kruti
dusk patrol
It’s always a low blow from a Dawi wazzock
queen laurel
no dwarf would ever trust a beast enough to ride it
Not even one that can double as a walking furnace strong enough to burn down a fortress?
fallen plaza
You come pre-lowed silly
fallen plaza
Not even one that can double as a walking furnace strong enough to burn down a f...
Not a goblinhewer
spring cairn
no
fallen plaza
Thats the difference
spring cairn
untrustworthy
I do not like the fyresalers at all aswell
unlike the flying steampunk dwarfs
arctic talon
I don’t like them either
fallen plaza
I do not like dwarves being separated based off all the cool shit they had in fantasy
arctic talon
Also goblinhewers are in cites
arctic talon
I do not like dwarves being separated based off all the cool shit they had in fa...
Khadron are unique
queen laurel
Yeah the empire equivalent
arctic talon
Tbh
spring cairn
they should've all been steampunk dwarfs even the slayers
queen laurel
It's in there
queen laurel
Cities is basically a mixture of old high elf old dwarves and empire
spring cairn
double edged power axes
arctic talon
The main weakness is that slayers have a hard time getting into melee
I do not want to play into khadron with drive by fucking jumpings
queen laurel
The main weakness is that slayers have a hard time getting into melee
Does Fyreslayer play like a magical melee army
spring cairn
assault slayers let's go
fallen plaza
Gyro-bombers but they just throw slayers
celest dome
Dwarf did have subdued Beast in Battle fantasy, Shard Dragon
fallen plaza
Or just axes
dusk patrol
Also they don’t look as cool as slayers imo
dusk patrol
Yeah
queen laurel
Well at least the destruction factions are cooking
fallen plaza
GRIMNIRRRRRR
dusk patrol
The trousers really tied it all together
celest dome
Their pants were better
queen laurel
Each one of them have personalities
arctic talon
Pants >
spring cairn
the son of ungrim had his dongliz hanging out
arctic talon
whatever they're wearing now
dusk patrol
so pants are optional
Technically they always were I guess
celest dome
whatever they're wearing now
Loins I think
queen laurel
yeah
Oh yeah wolf you still haven't answered my question, do they play like a magical army where you can also hit hard in the tabletop?
spring cairn
i think the more elite a slayer gets
dusk patrol
Let’s you triple wield
arctic talon
Oh yeah wolf you still haven't answered my question, do they play like a magical...
which army?
Khadron?????
celest dome
Fyreslayee
queen laurel
which army?
Fyreslayers
dusk patrol
Khadron are my boys
arctic talon
pretty violently strong melee army
queen laurel
they just fucking beat the shit out of you
Do they have magic because they seem to have like magical runes or something
celest dome
Pick one
queen laurel
Urgold whatever
fallen plaza
Dawi magic?! BBBBBHHHHRRRGGGHHHH
queen laurel
What's the special thing it does in table top
dusk patrol
Their magic is that bolt of lighting that just went through your heart from my gun wazzock!
queen laurel
It gives them like fire powers right
fallen plaza
Oh where have all the gobbos go why did they all run awayyyy…..
spring cairn
can fyreslayer explode
queen laurel
every start of a battleround
Oh so they just make themselves even more violent
spring cairn
and if not
queen laurel
can fyreslayer explode
Yrs
spring cairn
when will they be able to
queen laurel
The urgold runes have a chance to violently make them explode if they didn't handle it well
Because it's made out of grimnir
arctic talon
but Fyreslayers have
spring cairn
also while i'm here, do Iron Hands color their helmets differently based on ranks like the ultramarines and their red helmet stuff
queen laurel
but Fyreslayers have
So they are basically the iron jaws of order?
queen laurel
thats stormcast
What
arctic talon
Stormcast, Ironjawz, Chaos Warriors(without puny mortals), Ossiarchs
all fall into the same catagory
queen laurel
Oh
arctic talon
of big strong army
queen laurel
all fall into the same catagory
The elite infantry heavy units with decent magic?
arctic talon
yeah
and they have access to some smashy monsters
Fyreslayers don't really have an equivalent
queen laurel
and they have access to some smashy monsters
What category does ogres fall in
arctic talon
Ogres fall into the I won't play against you below 2000 points catagory
Ogers are custodes like
lol
queen laurel
Ogers are custodes like
I can guess gloom spite is about using magic to your advantage army
arctic talon
Gloomspite are a fucked up horde army
arctic talon
Oh where have all the gobbos go why did they all run awayyyy…..
they got shoved into the old world section
because they're old
queen laurel
Gloomspite are a fucked up horde army
They have a lot of support stuff and magic right
arctic talon
Lots of tricks
queen laurel
You can also play them pretty bashy
arctic talon
I wouldn't recomend it
queen laurel
If you go with the troghorde
arctic talon
but you could
queen laurel
but you could
Isn't like one of the renowned armies like A troggoth horde with the special character that is the trollking with the lay stone on top of him
arctic talon
yeah
queen laurel
So you can play them pretty straightforward with trolls
queen laurel
but then you couldn't get a chaos warrior high on mushrooms
Oh shit you're right
And i'm pretty sure i can guess the play style of the sons of behamat
They are the noobs stomper knight army from 40k
arctic talon
Behamat are more skillful then knights
because they don't get to blow people off the board lol
fallen plaza
Dirty dirty knights
queen laurel
because they don't get to blow people off the board lol
Oh yeah ogres are the only army in age of sigmar that don't have their own unique character right as i playable
Lord
In the table top
queen laurel
Ogres are overdue
They need that meat fist guy
They constantly mentioned him in the tome may as will make him a model
And also that infamous beastclaw raider
fallen plaza
His loyalist model was also very cool
arctic talon
Huron needs one
fallen plaza
And the techpriest model too
fallen plaza
Its probably my favorite techpriest model
dusk patrol
It’s a conversion beamer smh
fallen plaza
With the conversion beamer yes
dusk patrol
Conversion beamer is
fallen plaza
The dude is so blocky i might have a chance to make him