40k-lore-chat

[tepid peak]

It's a mark of boltgun that seems to be unique to the Retrubitors. Mandragora pattern.

[opaque coyote]

It's a pretty cool addition

But a small part of me is a bit unnerved by it

I had to look up bolter pictures to make sure I haven't been Mandela Effect'd

[opaque coyote]

[crystal forum]

nerd

[tepid peak]

tbh it works, since the shape of a bolt round is mostly cylindrical save the tip.

[opaque coyote]

slightly curved

[crystal forum]

it literally isnt

[opaque coyote]

why does it sound like i'm talking about something else

[crystal forum]

mine is straight

[tepid peak]

"Slightly curved."

[crystal forum]

like a missile

[opaque coyote]

damn nvm

i got proved wrong

guess i'll die

[tepid peak]

There's a good pre-servitor.

[crystal forum]

i also cut off the scope of one

[opaque coyote]

Also their Insignia looks super cool

Literally a hand crushing a skull

[languid meadow]

I love the bolt rifle without the scope

[storm jungle]

I just joined a Operation at the hive tyrant fight as a heavy and all i did was stay in a corner and unload all my ammo

[languid meadow]

it looks so much better

[storm jungle]

i got 1225xp in 2m

good game

[opaque coyote]

...add a reflex sight to it

[crystal forum]

intercessors all having scopes is dumb looking

[languid meadow]

the multi melta is crazy good for decap it's not even funny

[sacred ginkgo]

How much is it

Relatively

The xp

[storm jungle]

Uh pretty good, 1 and half a level i think

[crystal forum]

also

[storm jungle]

also awkward for me as the Heavy

💀

[opaque coyote]

also uhhh

[storm jungle]

NO

[languid meadow]

No please

[arctic talon]

Wdym you’re of the silver skulls chapter

[languid meadow]

Must resist making a ferrus manus joke

[opaque coyote]

IT'S BULLPUP TIME

[opaque coyote]

Don't lose your head OVEERRR IT FUCK

[tepid peak]

HYAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

[arctic talon]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/7/7b/SK_Marine.png/revision/latest?cb=20130913183453

Normal ultramarine sucessor

[languid meadow]

emperor bless the silver skulls chapter of their heroic actions and saving that world

[arctic talon]

Genuinely prolly made in honor of the loyalist IW

But

It’s funny to joke about them being IW

[storm jungle]

Im extremely sure that was the joke wasnt it

like with the Minotaurs we do know they come from I.W stock

[arctic talon]

It’s unknown in universe

[crystal forum]

for some reason you can equip your heavy intercessor sergeant with a scoped heavy bolt rifle but only in the slung position. it's found nowhere else

[arctic talon]

But the creator wrote it that way

[storm jungle]

To be fair

[arctic talon]

So word of god vs what book says

[storm jungle]

when it was basically gonna be canon it basically doesnt matter

since Minos got like

no lore that isnt FW

[arctic talon]

Minos are funny as shit

[opaque coyote]

"The Purging — (M41, exact date unknown) - Receiving distress signals from the planet Equinox, a small detachment of Silver Skulls arrived, with the aim of cleansing the planet of the influence of Chaos. They tirelessly swept through the city-states of Equinox one by one in a bloody massacre. The population, already halved by disease and starvation, was halved again and whole areas of city-states were used as mass graves. The Silver Skulls left as quickly as they had struck, fading to nothing more than a bloody memory in the collective consciousness of the survivors."

[storm jungle]

just a lil trolling

[arctic talon]

lol

[storm jungle]

also man ngl

i think im gonna get that 13dmg sword for bulwark since i got a artifice scrip

then stop playing bulwark

goddamn its such a clunky class

[opaque coyote]

"Hurrah, the Angels of the Emperor came to save u-"

blam BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM

FLOOOOOOMMMMM

[arctic talon]

Their fortress monastery is literally called Argent Mons or something

[languid meadow]

I was making the joke when trayzn saved a world, and the locals thought his warriors and immortals were space marines of the silver skulls chapter

[crystal forum]

i seem to be the only person playing heavy

since i have not met anybody else

[languid meadow]

they even made a statue of the guy

[crystal forum]

tbf heavy is not very good compared to the other classes

[arctic talon]

Heavy is very good

[languid meadow]

I try to play all the classes atm so I can get them all to max level

[arctic talon]

Multi melta

[crystal forum]

the perks are shit

[languid meadow]

since I got very annoyed at my mains being taken and being forced to play a low level class

[crystal forum]

the multi melta is the only good thing

[opaque coyote]

oh yeah and then immediately bombed the planet cause of heresy

[crystal forum]

i only have time for one match a day

need to paint

and model

[opaque coyote]

I also remember the Tau actually invited them Necrons for a party

Apparently it was like 3 days or something before the Necrons started massacring them

Which implies that the Necrons actually joined in for a bit

which is funny as fuck

[languid meadow]

actually that planet survived for a couple of more centuries before (spoilers for the Infinite and the divine) || a genestealer uprising happens because trazyn threw one at orikan the first time they were on that planet ||

[opaque coyote]

Imagine an Immortal fucking break dancing

[languid meadow]

great book I recommend it

same with twice dead king

necron books are pretty good

[tough haven]

"Hey nice party and all and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but uhh... we're gonna kill you all"

[languid meadow]

I find it funny that bullpup bolters were a thing in lore

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/under-new-management-more-like-under-new-management-megamind-megamind-meme-jokez_da_joke-gif-19867663

The necrons be like

[crystal forum]

i like how because bolters are already so short the bullpup design makes them longer lol

[languid meadow]

backwards evolution

the best part about that gun is that it's a combi weapon with a under barrel plasma gun

[tough haven]

I love how GW just adds models when a book comes out and hype is up for a character and then instantly after makes them legends to make peoples purchase worthless

thats why most non SM factions have so few epic characters

[languid meadow]

I don't remember but did the eldar get their phoenix lords remade yet

last I saw them they were... old

very old

[arctic talon]

That’s literally not true, they came out as legends. But we can spread misinformation

But okay

The black library celebration minis are odd

[arctic talon]

A few of them

Jain Zarr and Maugen Ra got remade

We’re getting more

[languid meadow]

sweet

[arctic talon]

Realistically I think the Black library celebration minis never should have gotten their own rules

The only ones with non legend rules are grandfathered in

[arctic talon]

SM epic characters are bloated from 8e primarily

They got one for each first founding chapter

[storm jungle]

Blood Angels alone got like how many now? lol

[arctic talon]

Also legends literally doesn’t fucking matter

Aside from tournaments

[arctic talon]

What being non codex compliant does

I think like 6 or 7?

[storm jungle]

jesus

[arctic talon]

Dante, Astorath, sanguinor, lemartes, corbulo, mephiston

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Space wolves had 12

At one point

[tough haven]

I was misinformed it appeared

[arctic talon]

Should have been your own codex

I guess lol

[languid meadow]

yeah space wolves be taking all the models

[tough haven]

idk why they even release models as legends instead of just balancing them for them to be used in all play

[arctic talon]

A lot of the factions with a fuck ton of epic characters are from a weird era

If GW

[arctic talon]

Because they’re limited run

Celebration minis

If they weren’t limited run I’d agree with you

[languid meadow]

I wonder who has the least (excluding Nids)

they don't count

[storm jungle]

I think tau?

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

or orks maybe

[arctic talon]

Tau have a ton lol

[storm jungle]

lmao really

[arctic talon]

It’s gsc

They have 0

[storm jungle]

i enver noticed ngl

[arctic talon]

lol

Ever

Gsc has no epic heros

[storm jungle]

They do have that demolitionist who got a name for shadow throne and thats it

[arctic talon]

Unless you count the patriarch

[languid meadow]

honestly forgot GSC was even a faction

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[languid meadow]

oh yeah and Votann

[arctic talon]

Votann has the second least

At 1

[languid meadow]

lmao

[fallen plaza]

Anyone been getting this guy in there dms?

[arctic talon]

Admech had 2 ever

Lol

[languid meadow]

At least they are finally getting their book

[arctic talon]

But daedolus got genericified

Space wolves have the most epic heros

For an individual faction

Then it’s UM or craftworld eldar

And then prolly orks or tau

I’m counting ever

So I’m including legends

[languid meadow]

it's kind of weird that space wolves get so many named models, but I guess it's because the writers just like writing them (for better and for worse)

[tough haven]

admech has 2

[arctic talon]

Tau have: Aun'va, Aun'shi, Shadowsun, Longstrike, Darkstrider

[tough haven]

one is legends and is a servitor

[arctic talon]

3

if we count X-101

lol

[tough haven]

admech has cawl, and x-101

[arctic talon]

Daedolus, Cawl, X-101

I'm counting Daedolus

[arctic talon]

even though he got genericized

He was a named character for admech

in 8e

[languid meadow]

Wait a fucking servitor is one of the 2 named admech models

[arctic talon]

3

its 3

I will kill you all

And yes

X-101 is from blackstone fortress

its just a really fucking beefed up combat servitor

[languid meadow]

I feel so bad for admech players

[arctic talon]

Meh

I don't mind

[tough haven]

Im one of them

[arctic talon]

I just want more cult mech stuff

[tough haven]

me too

[arctic talon]

Space wolves had a lot

of fucking named characters

one moment

I'll grab the list

[fallen plaza]

Give admech more robots gw

[tough haven]

like wheres my fucking faustinius legends model for mechanicus 2

or any of the mechanicus characters would be interesting

[languid meadow]

I was gonna say Im surprised that admech didn't get any models for mechanicus 2 but then I realized they're not space marines

[tough haven]

Wheres my UR-25 epic hero?

[tough haven]

Im praying its once it comes out

but probably its never

[languid meadow]

I hope they release an admech/necrons box for its release

[arctic talon]

UR-025 is imperial agents

he was admech in killteam 1e

[tough haven]

btw why do rippers in SM2 literally have 3 polygons, they do not look like rippers at all, they deadass look like rats

[arctic talon]

[fallen plaza]

GW in general used to take forever to capitalize on a game

I mean, look how long they took to bring back old world

[tough haven]

id use UR-25 because I love him if his datasheet wasnt so ass

[arctic talon]

for the list of space wolf epic heros: Canis Wolfborn, Harald Deathwolf, Njal stormcaller, Ragnar blackmane, Ulrik the slayer, Wolf Lord Krom, Lukas, Egil Redfist, hengiest ironaxe, Arjac Rockfist, Beoric winterfang, MURDERFANG, Bjorn the fellhanded

[languid meadow]

I know old world is "new" but like they missed out on making kislev and cathay an actual faction

[arctic talon]

13

fucking

epic heros

because fuck you

[languid meadow]

Wolf sweep

[fallen plaza]

There was one unreleased one too

[arctic talon]

seriously?

which dude

[languid meadow]

the post was fact checked by true fenris patriots

[fallen plaza]

I forgot his name but he could turn into a wolf

But only his non wolf model was completed

[arctic talon]

Eldar are like 10

Oh

I know who you're talking about

Wasn't the wulfen version

supposed to be like

whatever

[storm jungle]

reading these names alone gives me cancer

[opaque coyote]

One of these names are not like the others~

[arctic talon]

yeah Krom Dragongaze

[languid meadow]

bro got lost on his way to nocturne

[storm jungle]

may as well have a guy named Wulf Wolfcock at this point

[fallen plaza]

I bet no one would notice it too

[storm jungle]

the worst part is

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Svane_Vulfbad

people like this exist

VULFBAD

GET IT

[arctic talon]

Craftworld eldar have 10 named characters

Orks have 8

[languid meadow]

I do hope GW embraces their viking/norse side more since I really like space wolves as a faction

[arctic talon]

11 if we include the 3 versions

[storm jungle]

They do that in 30k

[arctic talon]

of fucking The Red Gobbo

[storm jungle]

40k less so

[arctic talon]

Tbf

wolves were like

always wolf circlejerk

in 40k

I do hope they uh

tone it back a bit

but

Also some of the 30k Space Wolves minis

LOOK FUCKING HIDEOUS

Forgeworld

and fur

do not mix

[languid meadow]

wolf helmets

[storm jungle]

to be fair

[arctic talon]

LIKE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[storm jungle]

those wolf helmets existed since like the 90's

[arctic talon]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

[storm jungle]

their concept art goes back that long lol

[arctic talon]

LOOK AT THE FUR

its so bad compared to the art

[storm jungle]

Hmmm potato chip fur....

[arctic talon]

these and the praetors

are the only good looking 30k wolf minis

everything else is dogshit

oh also Russ

[crystal forum]

the fucking wolf mk6

[fallen plaza]

Oh yes I know the name now of the unreleased character

Bran redmaw

[languid meadow]

ngl the wolf skull helmets go hard asf

[crystal forum]

who's dick do i have to suck to get MK2 armour

i can only buy helmets

[arctic talon]

ngl

the wolf helmets aren't terrible

spread out

But an entire squad of it is

odd

[opaque coyote]

Idk man

[languid meadow]

one as a squad leader is cool

[opaque coyote]

I don't think there's enough wolves

Clearly we need more wolves

[crystal forum]

what's the model that has a combined like 20 wolves and wolf symbols on it

[opaque coyote]

John Warhammer

[languid meadow]

on the topic of models the C'tan are

begging for a refresh

[fallen plaza]

@arctic talon

[arctic talon]

next edition

Deciever and Nightbringer

are so bad

transcendent c'tan is fine

[languid meadow]

I mean emps children might as well be confirmed so like the clonegrim cope is back on

[crystal forum]

do you think fulgrim fucks

[arctic talon]

Clonegrim is fridged

[languid meadow]

100%

[crystal forum]

is he good at it tho

[tough haven]

Probably not, doesnt seem like a generous lover

and not in the good way

[crystal forum]

i bet he expects you to do all the work

[languid meadow]

he seems like the type of dude to do that

[fallen plaza]

Why are we discussing the obvious

[arctic talon]

jokes aside

I don't even think it would intrest Fulgrim

at this point

[tough haven]

This is the correct answer

most emperors children or slaneesh worshippers probably have any interest in sex

[sour hornet]

Probably.

Snakebro had a bunch of wives pre-snakification.

They never divorced him and all died of old age.

[crystal forum]

stop falling for the shitty GW excuse for no tiddies

gosh darn it

[arctic talon]

I mean

Some of them do

but I think fulgrim is too fargone

at this point lol

[sour hornet]

Making a being a 'god of excess' and shying away from one of the largest human excesses is

[arctic talon]

Some of the EC

def are int ouh

sex

[tough haven]

It just gets fucking boring

[crystal forum]

like oh im too good for sex

[arctic talon]

but I don't think Fulgrim is

[crystal forum]

BULLSHIT

[arctic talon]

I think Fulgrim just likes murdering shit

ngl

[sour hornet]

Doesn't make it not likely

[tough haven]

The only way I can feel anything anymore is by snorting the tears of an extinct species while freebasing 6 different drugs and skinning orphans

[crystal forum]

you havent seen the levels of depravity i have

[sour hornet]

I'd say my counter but it would get me muted

[crystal forum]

fulgrim is right down there

[sour hornet]

fulgrim is a freak

[crystal forum]

fulgrim's kink list is:
yes

[crystal forum]

this image can be taken several ways

[languid meadow]

It is up to the viewer to interpret it

[sour hornet]

i don't like that

[languid meadow]

the urge to collect a custodes army is stifled by them being mega short

and they are prob not gonna get a refresh anytime soon

[fallen plaza]

A printer is your friend

[crystal forum]

it's your friend as well zimmer

[thick cedar]

Does slaanesh often "bleed" into other chaos worshippers?

like if a tzeenchian cultist enjoys zapping enemies to death is that technically double dipping into slaanesh?

[tough haven]

Man, I just really struggle writing chaos characters that arent just complete assholes, I dont necessarily want the comedically evil trope, though I do enjoy that

I was trying to write some that feel somewhat relateable, since usually chaos is like "Yeah I know the imperium is bad but we're also way worse"

[green loom]

They all bleed into each other sometimes

[paper haven]

Never liked the Word Bearers

[languid meadow]

the only thing I really like about them is they're like the only legion still mostly intact from the heresy iirc

[tough haven]

Chaos is the one faction I have trouble relating to or wanting to win often, even out of a desire of seeing imperium cope. Cause their goals are just so horrific, its not even like "Man I hate the imperium, lets try to make something better" Like if you dont want to be a part of the imperium, just be a unaligned human faction. Oh wait, GW doesnt really do those

theres the severan dominate but I dont think theyve had anything going on for ages

[paper haven]

Death guard too.

[languid meadow]

Yeah we really need another human faction that isn't chaos or the imperium, GW wont make human tau auxiliaries sadly

(at least we go vespids recently)

[tough haven]

I would love to have farsight enclaves be more prevelant, to like actually do things

I know they dont need or want to take territory, but they could try to liberate people from tau empire and imperium

Like an underground railroad thing

[languid meadow]

the two things I really want to happen is a tau civil war with the enclave trying liberate worlds and the necron civil war expanded upon

[tough haven]

true

though we are getting more necron civil war

[languid meadow]

I hope we get more tau auxiliaries in model form

[tough haven]

me too

[deft sigil]

Guys I just ate the emperor

[tough haven]

How’s he taste?

[tough haven]

Could you imagine some slaneesh worshipper getting into the throne room and just taking a bite out of him like the universes oldest piece of beef jerky?

And then refusing to elaborate and leaving

[deft sigil]

Kinda zappy

[tough haven]

‘Nids when there’s a big glowing beacon and they’re hungry

[deft sigil]

I think I'm going to eat the hivemind next

Lots of protein

And I'm bulking

[deft sigil]

Me explaining to the remaining Tyranids why I had to eat the hivemind because I'm bulking

[tough haven]

Tyranids when I eat all their biomass (I was hungry)

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-gif-22780945

[deft sigil]

The bio-titan looking down at it's legs to see me nibbling on them

[winter vessel]

They’re just another form of crustaceans to me. It’d be like eating giant Crawfish

[fallen plaza]

All crustaceans taste the same

So I think it would be weird if tyranids have all the same flavours

[opaque coyote]

What if the Tyranids are just bulking for the local Hivemind competition

They're competing against The Flood

[languid meadow]

(space marine 2 stuff)
Hello big guy

[shadow plover]

yeah that one felt almost too large to be ||an imperator titan||

[languid meadow]

honestly if anything would be that big out of the classes it would be that one

but yeah it's way bigger than official heights for them

[shadow plover]

it is beautiful though

[languid meadow]

took me a couple run throughs of the mission to even notice it

[shadow plover]

I saw it instantly and gasped like a child
It is also visible in one of the pvp maps

[open pumice]

thats about right?

they stand at 55m tall ish, aboutt he same height as the statue of liberty's base to torch

it might be a tad tall but not dramatically so

imperators are also hella wide, theyre built a lot more square than lady liberty

[languid meadow]

I guess but we dont know how tall this mountain exactly is

either way it's cool its even in the game in the first place

[queen laurel]

I would say that imperator is pretty much accurate to this

[open pumice]

yeah

hopinh we get a ZM style map through it at some point

[languid meadow]

I guess scale is just hard to visualize mentally

[open pumice]

we struggle to really put scale to anything larger than 2m tall.

it's hard ot think that an imperator is 20 space marines tall, given that most peopel probably couldn't acvcurately show you the height of a space marine (~3m or 9 feet)

[sour hornet]

It needs to be bigger.

[shadow plover]

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the artwork always exaggerates the heights even more than canon

Probably because of the simple fact that

It looks cooler

Like sure, a Mecha the size of the statue of liberty is cool

But what about the size of the Effiel Tower??

Square Cube Law can kiss my ass

[bold rampart]

can space marines be women or is that like, not a thing

[celest dome]

Not usually

[bold rampart]

yeah ok so like, sisters of battle are peak for women in the imperium? idk if that sounds weird

theyre cool tho i like em

[celest dome]

Fabius Bile did make some iirc

[celest dome]

Custodes

[bold rampart]

yeah

but sisters are unaltered no?

[celest dome]

Yes

[bold rampart]

thats what i meant

[celest dome]

SM are also altered

But Sister do have Power Armour

Compared to other normal human

[shadow plover]

Sisters of Silence are probably the most capable unaltered women in the Imperium

they're just born as nulls

[bold rampart]

yeah i know space marines rae barely human or something

[queen laurel]

if we're going by peak human and don't include ones that wear power armor

Catachan would be it

[bold rampart]

true

[queen laurel]

multiple times in lore they have been called borderline abhuman with how strong and physically fit they are

[bold rampart]

they look pretty abhuman lol

something like tempestus scions would probs be up there too

[queen laurel]

stone tooth Harker and Sly Marbo

as much of a meme Marbo is he is pretty fucking effective

[bold rampart]

saw that the average kasrkin is an absolute unit too

physically and stuff

[shadow plover]

Karskin were gene altered too, no?

like roided up and improved somehow

[bold rampart]

i dont think so?

maybe that

but the average recruit is like 6'6 or something

maybe 7ft

actually yeah they probably are roided

a healthy diet of faith and performance enhancing drugs

[celest dome]

No, they're just better trained

Like Catachan Devils
Krieg Grenadier

Are you thinking of Gland Warrior ?

[shadow plover]

Pretty sure the Eisenhorn Xenos book stated the Karskin they're with went through some gene altering process to reach the absolute heights of their prowess

[storm jungle]

Yeah theres nothing in recent lore saying Kasrkin are gene-enhanced

it wouldnt make sense since their entire point is that they are the peak Cadians are capable of

Abnett just being Abnett again lol

[sour hornet]

Combat orders of the Adepta Sororitas, and any female Tempestus Scions. Throw in Catachans and you have a few lanes.

If we're including all options, female inquisitors can get basically whatever they want, power armor included.

Oh, and Silent Sisters.

Almost forgot their presence.

[bold rampart]

lore accurate

[fallen plaza]

I mean its not too hard to imagine elite soldiers in the imperium taking something that enhances them, if we can believe nobles can live for hundreds of years without looking old i can believe this

[storm jungle]

Okay but none of the recent lore mentions it.

Thats more my point, not what elite soldier gets what enhancement

[fallen plaza]

Fair

[bold rampart]

mm, 7ft tall kasrkin woman

this is the lore i like

[sour hornet]

7ft foot tall woman? 🗣️🤝🙏

C*dian? 🤢🫵🚽

[bold rampart]

love the guard-cism

warhammer fans never cease to amaze

[queen laurel]

It's also canon in universe like a catachan will call you a Cadian as an insult

[crisp heath]

Why does everything relating to be gene enhanced come to making people taller?

Bigger target

[rocky gale]

Because height = power

[crisp heath]

Dwarf maxing gene enhancement

Short and wide

Especially in the warhammer setting actually lol

Dwarves are way stronger then men

[rocky gale]

Dwarf cope

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/dwarf-chad-chad-dwarf-gif-27635881

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/elliered-so-b-40k-gif-20508237

[crisp heath]

The look the sister gives you before burning you and your family to death for not having enough fervor (she didn’t like your vibe)

[bold rampart]

didnt pay your taxes on time

[rocky gale]

You were not made in the God Emperors image (Too short)

[bold rampart]

natural male coping mechanism when youre bellow 6ft is to resort to the dwarfpill

[queen laurel]

When you're born with an extra finger ( you have a mutation )

[onyx remnant]

So, how much information is out there about the veiled region? I have a story in mind and it requires the aid of a world with limited imperial presence but that can still hold human settlements

[crisp heath]

I wonder if this is only a western thing

[fallen plaza]

What isnt just a western thing is the bias to lighter skin tones

[rocky gale]

It's pretty mysterious, Admech and Rogue Traders have tried to chart or explore it but never really done well, so it's umapped and is rumoured to be filled with Orks, Necrons and even unknown Xenos

The Imperium also banned anyone from setteling near or in it

[bold rampart]

the redditor classic

im ugly, stink, fat and short. no, i am dwarfpilled.

[onyx remnant]

varied xeno presence is perfect

[crisp heath]

It’s actually a honest question lol, I’ve not been to other parts of the world

[bold rampart]

idk

[crisp heath]

Dont know much about it outside America

[rocky gale]

There's also rumours of human settlements in the Veiled region but because the region blocks the Imperiums ability to travel and communicate it's not been confirmed

From looking at it, the only novel which explores that area is Hellforged, one of the Souldrinker books

[onyx remnant]

Time to world craft, it's gonna be a perfect springboard to transition into the other southern zones.

[onyx remnant]

thank you!

[rocky gale]

Other than that it's mentioned in the Dark Angel 6th edition codex and White Dwarf 477

[onyx remnant]

I got so many pages open of the lexicanum already, god have mercy.

[rocky gale]

So yea pretty unexplored both inuniverse and inlore

[crisp heath]

Were there any notable loyalist night lords?

Or did kurse just eat them or something

He seems the type

[celest dome]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Loyalists_of_the_Traitor_Legions

[shadow plover]

oh nice, didn't know they had any named ones

[crisp heath]

Damn, even Horus legion had loyalists

[shadow plover]

most of the Heresy literally follows those characters

well not most, but a good portion

[rose thorn]

Nice nice, do we have traitors of the loyalist legions?

[tough haven]

Long ass list 💀

[fallen plaza]

Horus was a notable one

[celest dome]

Think someone tried to make it but didn't go to the end with it https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Traitors_of_the_Loyalist_Legions

[rose thorn]

Ah

[hasty coral]

If they were taller they would be unstoppable

Leverage, ability to wield larger weapons, etc

They are strong but their center of mass is not beneficial

What is with the xeno hatred in the Imperium? Where did it come from? Besides the Emperor's whole "humanity first" idea where did it originate?

Just wars?

Like Tyranids, Necrons, Orks etc obvious why they are hated

But what did the Eldar do? And by extension the Tau?

Like what was first contact and how did shit get so bad?

[hasty coral]

Well yes but what the Imperium come across the Eldar and vice versa, you're telling me they just started shooting each other?

[shadow plover]

the imperium's approach was pretty much "bend the knee or die" and when they didn't, war ensued

[hasty coral]

Did they encounter each other pre or post Hersey?

Do we know?

[tough haven]

Yeah I don’t think diplomacy was ever really an option presented

[shadow plover]

Eldar were known of during the heresy

[hasty coral]

I can't imagine the Emperor sees the Eldar and immediately declares war just because they don't want to join them. Considering the Webway project.

[queen laurel]

One of the primarchs showed he can speak eldari right

[hasty coral]

Like think tactically, what would be the point of war when the end goal of the Emperor is the psychic race shenanigans

[shadow plover]

think the wars with the eldar taught the emperor about the webway prior the heresy or something like that

[hasty coral]

Oh so war then Webway?

Because that would make more sense

[crisp heath]

Eldar deserve all the hate they get

I wish they didn’t get the shit beat out of them as much though

[hasty coral]

Because even if force was going to be used eventually why not wait until later?

[hasty coral]

Why DID they create Slanessh (obviously not intentionally but thats the most family friendly way I can describe the events that created them).

[storm jungle]

the Imperium essentially believes in the IRL philosophy of "manifest destiny", basically saying the galaxy belongs to them by the warped view of the emperor and that every alien they meet is evil and should be exterminated, with the almost largely peaceful alien civilizations having been wiped out by humanity during the great crusade.

[crisp heath]

They won

And we’re having too much fun in new game+

[storm jungle]

Because decadent socieities just like us IRL get bored.

And they resort to hedonism.

[hasty coral]

That makes sense

[storm jungle]

its why you always see stories of rich people doing fucked up shit

because they got power

[queen laurel]

Imagine being an alien and suddenly the imperium just made you extinct because you can make them younger

[storm jungle]

they got money

they are bored and powerful

[crisp heath]

They had the best medical people in the galaxy

Death was not the end

[storm jungle]

^

[hasty coral]

That's it? I mean its reasonable but CHAOS GOD birthing levels of degeneracy?

[storm jungle]

they were essentialy at peak societal form

[hasty coral]

Freakdar

[storm jungle]

They didnt do it on purpose lol

and they are an entirely psychic race, this manifested over centuries

more or less like how humanity feeds all 4 chaos gods today

the eldar that were smart left when they saw what was happening in a "paradise lost" fashion.

its the eldar you see on the current setting

[hasty coral]

What ARE the current plans of the Necrons?

[storm jungle]

Galactic dominance

each dynasty has their own goals

they arent unified

[hasty coral]

Do they have even the slightest regrets about well THE WARP INCIDENT???

[storm jungle]

Not really.

They are peak robochads, why would they care when they are such assholes

[crisp heath]

Necrons haven’t taken over the galaxy yet cause they are stupid

[shadow plover]

also asleep

[hasty coral]

Trust weird gas clouds, lose flesh and go kinda insane, fuck up reality, go to sleep after they fucked everything up, begins to do the same thing again

[crisp heath]

And suffer the same thing as the reason the skaven don’t automatically win

They keep fucking themselves over

[queen laurel]

infighting

[storm jungle]

To be fair look at human history

sentient sapient beings dont really ever learn from history

lol

[hasty coral]

I know 40k grimdark blah blah, but why is not ONE person like even slightly not the worst

[queen laurel]

Sire why did you want to conquer this island and enslave its people

because i feel like it to be honest and i'm bored

[storm jungle]

I mean some are

[hasty coral]

The Tau are slaves to a higher class

They don't really count

[crisp heath]

There is one character who is the worst

[storm jungle]

Not that much

[crisp heath]

His name is Erebus

[storm jungle]

Anyway there are necrons who are like

actually apologetic

or dont like their situation

the issue is theres literally nothing to do lol

why wallow in misery

[queen laurel]

Trazyn is a kleptomaniac but he can be surprisingly kind when it comes to

[hasty coral]

Trayzn is based though, at least he admits his people fucking suck but he just wants to have fun

[crisp heath]

Trazyn being nice to a human servant was kinda sick

[storm jungle]

Well "nice"

💀

[crisp heath]

Even though it was basically slaved

[hasty coral]

Not AS psychotic

[queen laurel]

this is Trazyn stilll

[hasty coral]

Selectively crazy

[queen laurel]

he has like the highest ranking person on cadia on his collection

[shadow plover]

There is no one good faction or group of people, but there are a few twinkles here and there

[storm jungle]

the Cutthroat from Darktide?

damn

[crisp heath]

Who is brought back to the imperium probably could do a lot of good

But he’s in cringe baby jail

[storm jungle]

Creed?

[queen laurel]

i'm going to bash in your skull

[storm jungle]

Hes just a general lol

[hasty coral]

How many years until the story actually meaningfully moves forward?

[crisp heath]

With years of experience fighting chaos

[storm jungle]

Not for a long awhile

[crisp heath]

He could help out a lot if he was back

[storm jungle]

it took 30 years IRL for the story to move forward with Gathering Storm

[hasty coral]

"The Emperor might return!!!!!!!" Surely

Clueless

[storm jungle]

you need to understand that this is a setting with no consequences or that much of a great change

the more things change the more they will stay the same

[hasty coral]

I know I just hate it

[storm jungle]

this franchise is about miniatures, not lore, so

[queen laurel]

yeah and i'm pretty sure our Darktide operatives are dead except for psykers because they can learn bio mancy and reduce their aging

[hasty coral]

Isn't it around Guilliman's return?

[storm jungle]

Yeah but you forget the time frame in 40k

its so large the dates are in Millennia

aka 1000 years

[hasty coral]

Isn't it still the 41st millennium? Or are we on 42nd?

[storm jungle]

41 rn

[queen laurel]

yeah our characters are ******* dead either by surviving and dying somewhere else or by old age which is by my metric not a good chance

[hasty coral]

I feel I've heard hundreds of years have passed a LOT

[shadow plover]

officially 42nd but stuff is still released to be happened in 41st

[hasty coral]

While yes in different stories

[storm jungle]

pretty much

theres not really a set date

just a rough estimate

[shadow plover]

the great rift happened at the very end of 41st millenium so basically most of the stuff with the rift open is in the 42nd

[radiant lance]

Me being canonically in the death watch for 100 years and then struggling with a single tyrannid warrior

[crystal forum]

the car in front of me threw a bunch of food wrappers out their window. my morning is ruined

[hasty coral]

40k powerscaling KEK

[storm jungle]

you say that like tyranid warriors are pushovers in the actual lore 💀

[hasty coral]

Absolutely useless

This is why I literally don't have ANY investment in any 40k character besides our Darktide characters

[storm jungle]

You can get some investment

[radiant lance]

"oh let me practice parrying this one lone warrior"
Proceeds to lose 90% of my health

[storm jungle]

but uh

its usually characters that got no models in books

who you know might or might not survive

[crisp heath]

The last big thing that happened was angron breaking something right?

[storm jungle]

Uh it was Arks of Omen

[crisp heath]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

where Vashtorr got the key to the webway to tunnel shit in it

[radiant lance]

Any named character in 40k are invincible until they're suddenly very not

[storm jungle]

we dont know what hes after atm

[storm jungle]

They are always invincible

theres not really any exceptions

[crisp heath]

He’s using the webway to better transport his goods

It will be industrialized

[hasty coral]

Everyone gets oneshot

[queen laurel]

Argel Tal?

[radiant lance]

Until they die for plot reasons

Sanguinis?

[hasty coral]

EVERYONE gets oneshot in the lore

[storm jungle]

hes a 30k character thats not in 40k

[hasty coral]

And I am sick of pretending otherwise

[radiant lance]

Unless they don't

[storm jungle]

We literally always knew he was gonna die lol

[crisp heath]

One lucky necron beam hits you square

[queen laurel]

aight sure

[crisp heath]

You die

No matter how strong you are

[hasty coral]

You can WATCH SM and CSM die to chainswords bolters etc, oneshot

[shadow plover]

[crystal forum]

titus's plot armour is so strong that even in the game everybody's confused

[crisp heath]

He fought ork’s while blue

[hasty coral]

Doesn't this mean SM are weaker than tyranid warriors?

[crisp heath]

He is the luckiest marine alive

[hasty coral]

Wait I forgot

Nothing matters

[storm jungle]

never use tabletop stats for lore

[shadow plover]

in some aspects yes

[storm jungle]

they are never accurate

[crystal forum]

yes they are

[storm jungle]

no lol

[crystal forum]

this is lore cope

[storm jungle]

this is tabletop cope

[hasty coral]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

[shadow plover]

the lore is built around the tabletop

[crisp heath]

Cope cope seethe seethe

[shadow plover]

but nothing in it is set in stone

[queen laurel]

i always hate people using tabletop as basis it's like the equivalent of looking at jay and thinking he's xqc

[storm jungle]

Okay so a machine gun crew can just kill guilliman

[crystal forum]

they can't

[storm jungle]

they can

because tabletop is lore apparently

[shadow plover]

if guilliman stands still for two turns then yeah

[hasty coral]

🍿

[crisp heath]

Just shoot him in the face

[storm jungle]

anyway yeah

tabletop does not equal to lore

so dont the stats either

[hasty coral]

Caring about 40k logic

[queen laurel]

this also means that Gretchen can kill him

[crystal forum]

[storm jungle]

^

[shadow plover]

if the gretchen has like 15 turns of melee without a care in the world, sure

[crisp heath]

Actually that is a good point, are primarchs skin way more durable and resistant then regular people?

Like if a bullet hits them will it bounce?

Half of them don’t wear helmets lol

[storm jungle]

yes

fulgrim survived getting blank-shot in the face by a bolter

[crystal forum]

most space marine characters dont wear helmets

[crisp heath]

Hilarious

When they hit you with that dollar store 5.56

[shadow plover]

well his skull is what took the brunt, not skin but yeah

[crisp heath]

(Light work no reaction)

[crystal forum]

fulgrim's got no brain so he was safe there

[shadow plover]

true true

[crisp heath]

Haha

[hasty coral]

Bro melted under ZERO pressure

[crisp heath]

I know a lot of people don’t like lorgar, was he actually ever cool?

[hasty coral]

The fucking bullshit the Primarchs and SM fell too is so BAD

[queen laurel]

wasn't one of the point of the lore is that you know since space wolves don't wear helmets a lot they get easily sniped

[crystal forum]

most primarchs had to be forced into chaos. fulgrim just had to be enticed by weird snake sex

[hasty coral]

Literally giga mind steeled uber plus war vets genetically made from birth to be unflinching

[crisp heath]

Fulgrim is in a mirror

Or is a snake

Not sure

Both?

[hasty coral]

Bro a normal dude with a healthy mental attitude could resist Slannesh

😭

[crisp heath]

Wrong

[hasty coral]

Not like warp energy but like mental fuckery

[crisp heath]

You say that now, but it will get to you

[crystal forum]

sure irl

[crisp heath]

Will find your weakness

[queen laurel]

no matter how much willpower you have chaos will corrupt you physically

[onyx remnant]

Me when a literal god.

[crystal forum]

but in warhammer there's dumb chaos taint

[queen laurel]

especially if you comprehend their whispers

[hasty coral]

Me when literally satan

LITERALLY Satan, trusting satan is CRAZY

Magnus I get

[onyx remnant]

It was never about trust.

[hasty coral]

He actually makes sense but shit like Fulgrim

Bro is THE pathetic one

[crisp heath]

Fulgrim gave up

[hasty coral]

Remeber mentally genetically perfect war vet, falls to ego

[queen laurel]

ok then go to Slannesh's domain and taunt her then

[crisp heath]

Lorgar embraced it, angron didn’t have a choice

[hasty coral]

To literal Satan

[queen laurel]

you said you won't be corrupted right

[hasty coral]

Angron no

Bro was brain melted

[crisp heath]

He really never had a chance

[hasty coral]

Not willingly no

[crisp heath]

No real way to make it better besides actually killing himself

Kinda sucks

[onyx remnant]

Your words now hold little meaning in the face of desire and greed, such is your nature.

[crisp heath]

And khrone just made it hurt worse

[hasty coral]

Mortarion is a bit of both, honestly his hatred of the Emperor kinda makes sense, even if he did lose, his like entire early life's purpose was handwaved for him by some dude he hated and now had to serve

[crisp heath]

He gave up to save his sons

Don’t be too hard on him

[hasty coral]

While true, shit was FUCKED

Nurgle is the one guy who getting corrupted by is ESPECIALLY bad shit

Bro is THE pain causer

If you don't serve him

That I understand

Even a war vet would fall to that level of fucking pain and rot

[celest dome]

AS much as I don't care about SM2, I do have to applaud 1 thing
||And it's making people cheer for the Chaplain||, ||then reveal that it is Leandross||

[queen laurel]

it's like CA improving their DLC only for them to not add your favorite characters

[crystal forum]

who tf cheers for him

he's a dickhead the whole campaign

[queen laurel]

People who like space marines and think chaplains are cool

because they like his so called tough and you know vigilant personality

[crisp heath]

He’s a good chaplain

[crystal forum]

"i will kill you if i see any traces of chaos"

omg so cool

[crystal forum]

no he is not lol

[crisp heath]

That’s what they do

[crystal forum]

read any space marine book with an actually good chaplain

[queen laurel]

You really expect people that are space marines fans to not find that cool?

[crystal forum]

chaplains aren't commissars lol

their job is to inspire their battle brothers and be an ear to confide secrets

all the chaplain does the entire story is make titus feel like shit, which does not help somebody's combat efficiency

[queen laurel]

he was already depressed though

[crystal forum]

what's your point

[queen laurel]

he's fine he literally powered through

like he's used to this type of crap already

[crystal forum]

i dont understand how this explains the chaplain's actions

[queen laurel]

it's a Chaplain

People find marines with bones attached to them cool

[crystal forum]

this still does not explain the chaplain's actions

[storm jungle]

Thats the Chaplain's job

[queen laurel]

yes it does, since he is a chaplain he is very watchful of titus, who has a notorious reputation of being immune to the warp

[storm jungle]

hes essentially a drill sergeant

do drill sergeants make you feel good about yourself? lol

[queen laurel]

Listen soldier you didn't go to military camp to have hugs and kisses now enter to the gas chamber

[hasty coral]

I'm seeing more lore channels popping up and I'm like "They think the lore is going to be good 😭 "

[crystal forum]

how does being immune to the warp make somebody more suspicious, especially considering that the chaplain was literally present the first time he went through the whole chaos ordeal

[hasty coral]

I love the VIBE of 40k NOT the story

My god not the story

💀

[queen laurel]

You mean a non chaos marine being immune to the warp is not suspicious?

even though their chapter doesn't train for rapid exposure?

You expect a super soldier that while strong should not survive direct contact to the warp for a prolonged time to be not suspicious?

[hasty coral]

Doesn't matter, its still a betrayal

[queen laurel]

don't forget in the first game titus didn't even have special gear when he make contact with the warp

[hasty coral]

In the eyes of Titus and the ultramarines

You aren't supposed to go tattle to the inquistion after a dude saves your fucking life

That's cringe

I don't care what you think is "right" your cringe

[queen laurel]

Leandros should have reported the issue within the marines anyway not with the inquisition because that's literally on the codex that he wants to marry

[hasty coral]

Even more of a reason he sucks ass

[crystal forum]

this is after he went through the deathwatch and proved himself nigh unkillable by most means. you're basically saying that leandros is too dumb to realize that titus isn't affected by the warp

which he is

[queen laurel]

But that's the suspicious part he isn't affected by the warp

well yes what leandros did was definitely not good

A space marine that is exposed to pure warp energy and coming out fine is a bit suspicious

[hasty coral]

Also the Imperium isn't THAT scared of the Warp, they use psykers daily, his resistance would at most be a call for the Grey Knights

[crystal forum]

in the end whether it's by stupidity or incompetence, leandros just doesnt do his job properly

[hasty coral]

Especially after being witnessed piledriving a massive chaos plot

[queen laurel]

sure he does because if he didn't he wouldn't be a chaplain

If the marines decided him to be a chaplain is good enough then let him be a chaplain they said

[storm jungle]

He does exactly what a chaplain should

you are just expecting logic out of literal awful people again

[surreal nest]

chaplains are literally just redditor hall monitors

[queen laurel]

yeah uh you're talking about super soldiers here who are literally raised in war

common sense isn't something they have

most of the time

[hasty coral]

Like I'm sorry but there is no way the Imperial guidelines says that if a war hero survives the warp that you call the Inquistion, ESPECIALLY a Space Marine of Titus's standing, the Grey Knights would be called

Titus was literally HIM

[surreal nest]

Wouldn't you be a little confused if you saw a dude walk out of the ocean completely dry?

[hasty coral]

No but seriously are the Grey Knights gonna show up or?

[queen laurel]

this is the imperium

I save an entire world by shooting a lucky shot on a chaos lord using an Tau pulse rifle they will torture me and execute me on the spot

[hasty coral]

I feel Titus warrants attention from them

Two massive Warp anomalies thrawted by him in close range

Still unphased

What do we think he is anyways?

It seems to be implied he is indeed unique

[surreal nest]

Nothing, he's an ultramarine named character and he has faith. That's his character

[hasty coral]

Right mb for assuming it would be interesting

[surreal nest]

Nobody wants a scene where there is a formal investigation from higher ups about his main character syndrome lmfao what

[crystal forum]

it's noted several times that his resistance is abnormal

[surreal nest]

Yeah and it gets chalked up to him being very faithful and loyal

[crystal forum]

the games wouldn't be pointing it out if it was just main character syndrome

[hasty coral]

More like "Hey there is actually a reason besides you are special, not just that you are a named character"

To at least PRETEND the writing isn't hamfisted

Like they don't even TRY to not do the named character shit

[surreal nest]

It literally is just warhammer writing, faith can withstand chaos

[hasty coral]

Yeah, its boring

And its lazy

[crystal forum]

i dont think this is true for titus

i think GW has something planned for him

[hasty coral]

Forgive me for not liking the named character excuse

[queen laurel]

Gargaz Teefgrabba, Titus, and Malum Caedo, nothing special about them they are just Game Protagonists

[hasty coral]

Well one of them is an Ork SOOOOOO

[crystal forum]

not even a particularly big one

[hasty coral]

Still an Ork with their bullshit

If other Orks think he is cool enough

[crystal forum]

he starts off the game killing a baneblade and it only ramps up from there

[queen laurel]

a single ork that single handedly destroyed a gene stealer cult slaughtered armies worth of guard, Scions and Marines it killed a knight and a Stompa

it's just game protagonist syndrome

[crystal forum]

and bigger warbosses

[hasty coral]

I'm aware of what it is, its still dumb

[crystal forum]

it's just gameplay

but i still think titus is different

[hasty coral]

They could at least TRY to not do it everytime a character just ignores the lore

[surreal nest]

He isn't ignoring the lore. Canonically faith is a shield against chaos. he just has a lot

[hasty coral]

Well for stuff like Darktide whatever, I would like an explanation, but I'm fine without it

[crystal forum]

faith alone isn't the only thing

it's a lot of willpower

plus faith can be used against characters

a lot of demons just say they're the emperor

[rose thorn]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

mY GF BOUGHT WARHAMMER

im so proud of her

[crystal forum]

which warhammer

oh that one

[gray umbra]

Sometimes you just gotta enjoy the fact your playing a 8 ft tall meathead with a chainsword

[hasty coral]

Why would you do this to her

[gray umbra]

And not look too deeply

[queen laurel]

daughters of khaine i see

[rose thorn]

yes

she is very gay

[queen laurel]

that is an explanation that i will believe alright

[gray umbra]

Me and my gf are doing the campaign and we just laugh at the idea of our characters just THUNK THUNK all over the battle barge during intermissions

In their dumb ass power armor

Or scenes where we just go helmetless and survive a vehicle crash while standing

[crystal forum]

i wish my friends played warhammer

i have a friend who's very into boardgames and i'm trying on them

[surreal nest]

You have to indoctrinate

i'm spreading warhammer like a virus

[crystal forum]

i'm going to get the new killteam edition so i can indoctrinate easier

[queen laurel]

are you introducing them on 30K or 40K

[crystal forum]

40k i'm not evil

[surreal nest]

new killteam is a surefire way to twist the minds for sure

Rules look impeccable

[queen laurel]

that's good

[crystal forum]

ye especially with coop

i might try getting my dad into it too

guy needs a new hobby

[onyx remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/darkest-dungeon-ancestor-gif-21405227

financial ruin has come to our family

[crystal forum]

creating my own generational poverty

[surreal nest]

i was building a full 40k army with my like decade old best friend but he turned out to be a complete fucking weirdo politically so I just forced another friend to start a Votann army

and a stormcast army

and like 3 killteams

[onyx remnant]

Do not fall prey to the machinations of the political beast, for they pit you against your fellow man.

[queen laurel]

every time it's warhammer it's always a political weirdo

[surreal nest]

Fr, I have an avid distrust of anybody in the space by default now

[onyx remnant]

It's natural to distrust others.

[queen laurel]

yes but if it's a warhammer fan it's a lot more apparent

[crystal forum]

btw im saying this because i caught him watching the borderlands movie yesterday

[queen laurel]

Meeting 1 is always a gamble

[crystal forum]

you really must have nothing to do to watch the borderlands movie

[rose thorn]

sorry to hear that,, i hope you are able to make a new best friend!

[onyx remnant]

I can't wait to watch the new minecraft movie.

[surreal nest]

From my experience Age of Sigmar fans are pretty normal and cool

[rose thorn]

yes!

[queen laurel]

yes mainly because they just want to be left alone and enjoy their cool setting

warhammer fantasy boomers are still waging war on them for some reason

[onyx remnant]

Where do Old World fans fall?

[rose thorn]

and also our setting's main faction isnt a facist fantasy

[surreal nest]

LITERALLY

[queen laurel]

AYE

[crystal forum]

also women stormcasts are normal

[surreal nest]

i LOVE how age of sigmar factions always be teaming up and shit

[rose thorn]

THATS WAHT SPACE MARINES AREEE

[surreal nest]

seraphon AND stormcast??? go fuck them up kings and queens and lizards and shit

[crystal forum]

fantasy in general has less shitheads than sci fi settings from my experience

[rose thorn]

its my favorite part too

you can be a space marine and not be a facist

but most facists are space marine fans

[queen laurel]

IRON JAWZ IZ BEST

[crystal forum]

and krieg lovers

and weirdly some ork lovers

[surreal nest]

Now this is a true

Can you have a whole iron jawz army?

[rose thorn]

oh tahts beacsue back in the early editions they were actual nazis

[surreal nest]

I hate orruks guttrippas or whaetever they called

[rose thorn]

yes

[surreal nest]

the skinny ones

[rose thorn]

kruleboyz

[crystal forum]

werent they WW1 german inspired

[queen laurel]

Yeah you can have now

they did receive new units to mitigate their slow speed

[surreal nest]

rubbing my hands rn

[rose thorn]

they had swatzicas on their armor

[crystal forum]

[rose thorn]

why do you think storm boys are called storm boys

[crystal forum]

fuck

[onyx remnant]

star wars :3

[rose thorn]

pff

also im so so so excited for the nwe darkest dungeon 2 gamemode

[queen laurel]

they got the giant boars and the Ragers to mitigate their speed disadvantage

[onyx remnant]

Still haven't finished the second one, gone back to replay dd1 on repeat.

[surreal nest]

i want their underworlds team so bad

[rose thorn]

yeah i do that back and forth

[rose thorn]

its only liek 30 bucks

can be used fo rwarcry

and also every book 1 underworlds wraband will have new rules

[queen laurel]

Which one the iron skulls or the Krushas

[surreal nest]

BOFA

probably the krushas

[crystal forum]

it's so funny that you can't even tell which models are orcs and which are orks

[rose thorn]

i suggest looking at every facteion and decide what you like and dont

the way aos is made, its focused around making you really want a few armies

[queen laurel]

Both of them are Orruks

Easy

[surreal nest]

Oh yeah i got a skaven army building up rn already

i want soulblight next

[queen laurel]

you must be one rich zogger

[crystal forum]

they could be used as savage world orks

[surreal nest]

Just reckless

[queen laurel]

savage orcs can take that part these guys are propper

Orruks

[queen laurel]

you're 1 brave guy to spend your money on a horde army

[surreal nest]

i have an astra militarum army already as well