40k-lore-chat

[radiant lance]

Horus heresy be like

[spare osprey]

Son of the forest got it

They will never explain it

That’s a fun fact for ya

[radiant lance]

You know how the clone wars in Star wars was just name dropped and should have never been explained?
Horus heresy.

[small grail]

Is that the whole shtick?

[spare osprey]

Yuuuup

[small grail]

Fuck it imma make fan lore on that

[spare osprey]

It’s a great book beyond that

Though I say this as a fallen fan

[small grail]

Hells personal BDSM specialists

[small grail]

What'd u mean

[spare osprey]

Nah just that I’m biased asf

I mean the redeemed make the book for me

[small grail]

Based

[spare osprey]

Aaaaand

I snagged one of the limited editions

So the afterward is great

[small grail]

How much?

[opaque coyote]

Dark angels when they hear there's a fallen two continents away

[spare osprey]

Was like $75

[small grail]

JESUS

[spare osprey]

Exactly

[small grail]

Wait why am I surprised its warhammer

Did lion and rogal dorn ever have any interactions? Because to me honestly they both are kinda the same personality wise

[fallen plaza]

Im glad most of the limited edition stuff GW makes is trash

[small grail]

Why?

Like how bad we talkin

[opaque coyote]

Buy the $1000 limited edition Titan figure or else

[crystal forum]

dorn is very stoic and stern

[opaque coyote]

[fallen plaza]

Its not even that cool

Its more like special book covers and shit

Get this limited edition pin of calgar or some gay shit

[opaque coyote]

That is lame

[rocky gale]

Why Neopagan specifically

[opaque coyote]

If you really wanted one

Just like print out a PNG

[rocky gale]

Like you could have picked triple goddess and you chose neopagan

[opaque coyote]

At least Forgeworld Imperial Warlord Titans look cool

...

Despite the fact that they are fucking

$3220 US DOLLARS

[fallen plaza]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

Just but it lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I guess I should forgo things like

Food

Water

[small grail]

Ain't the lion the same

[opaque coyote]

Electricity

[fallen plaza]

Your life

[small grail]

Your soul

[opaque coyote]

Gotta live like an Imperial fr

[radiant lance]

I'm going to print out a gif

[spare osprey]

Only like one in a short story

[fallen plaza]

Just dont forget to write me in your will before you take your life though

[spare osprey]

Was not great

[small grail]

No bitches as well

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[small grail]

Writing wise or combat

Like did they fight

[opaque coyote]

Nah I'm blaming and doxxing you fr

[spare osprey]

Mike’s signature makes it kinda worth it tho lol

[spare osprey]

They argued

[small grail]

That's it?

[spare osprey]

Prettyyyyy

[fallen plaza]

Okay that was worth it

[spare osprey]

Much

[opaque coyote]

Man has a spike for a head

[fallen plaza]

That smile

[opaque coyote]

[spare osprey]

It’s his Mohawk lol

[small grail]

Damn kinda expected a fight

[opaque coyote]

It is a spike now

I defy reality and substitute it for my own

[spare osprey]

I fw Mike brooks honestly

[opaque coyote]

[spare osprey]

Alr Tzeentch

[fallen plaza]

Swag

[spare osprey]

Yeah nah, only fighting that ever took place was between their sons

When the dark angels massacred the imperial fists guarding Cthonia

[opaque coyote]

Nice

[small grail]

@opaque coyote what is ur pfp bro

[spare osprey]

And the sons of Horus

[spare osprey]

And the raven guard

And the titans

Killed a lotta folks on Cthonia

[small grail]

Imagine if a titan worked like a dreadnought

[queen laurel]

who gonna tell him

[small grail]

No like don't they have multiple people in them?

The princess and then like the crew

[small grail]

Princeps

[queen laurel]

yes but the Princep, the one that connects with the titan, on occasion can quite literally be put inside of a tank

when they get too damaged or something

their bodies literally falling apart you know stuff like that

[small grail]

No no I meant like how a dreadnought is just like his broken body and him in the sarcophagus

Just imagine if they put those damaged marines into titans

Imagine the amount of life support they'd need

[opaque coyote]

Don't they also get their souls absorbed into the titan when they die

And essentially sort of

Become part of them

[queen laurel]

yeah that too

[queen laurel]

It's still basically the same of putting a guy who is dying on life support to pilot a war machine so

[small grail]

My question was about the inner half not about control

[small grail]

Ain't the guy controlling have a full body

[spare osprey]

Found ittt

[small grail]

That...is rough

[spare osprey]

Imperus Nox was a warmaster btw

[storm jungle]

god

literally a fucking bionicle

[crystal forum]

machine

[storm jungle]

even has the piston bits

lmao

[crystal forum]

see what i did there

[small grail]

Yea I actually wanted to ask about the warmaster title for titans what's up with that and horus being called the warmaster as well

[spare osprey]

Just called in honor of him ig

[crystal forum]

warmaster is a general title. there's still people who are warmasters in 40k

[small grail]

But...didn't he like betray the imperium and allat...and was widely hated

[crystal forum]

it's being in charge of a whole crusade

[small grail]

So the biggest commander

[spare osprey]

Yeah like Jay said, just a term at the end of the day

[queen laurel]

yeah but it really doesn't matter having a full body when it gets obliterated so they need to put the princep somewhere, and Princeps especially on the larger Titans are hard to find so if they get too hurt but they like you know still can think or you know have the ability to use their brain they're putting a type of tank for the Titan

like if all of their limbs got blown off

[fallen plaza]

They are called lord solars nowadays

[small grail]

Ph

[queen laurel]

just shove them inside the tank and put it on the titan and there we go

[small grail]

Oh

[crystal forum]

i distinctively remember there being a warmaster in charge of the sabbat crusade in the tanith books

[small grail]

So when thy lose their arm they actually lose it in the cockpit as well?

Like function

[spare osprey]

Siege of Cthonia is one of the better conflicts of the heresy

I mean the way the planet died alone

[queen laurel]

OK a Princep is not on their Titan 24/7, yes they can control it will having a full body the thing is it causes a lot of strain

[crystal forum]

it is quite literally happening at the end

[opaque coyote]

I mean just because a King was hated doesn't mean that the idea of a king is ruined y'know

[crystal forum]

since it ends at the same time horus dies

[queen laurel]

Sometimes though they suffer some accident or are too physically weak to pilot it so they are put in a type of tank

[spare osprey]

They put like these bombs that opened warp portals and it ate chunks of the planet

[queen laurel]

sustain their life

[spare osprey]

Mhm

[small grail]

The one kinda titans I never liked where the ones with the churches on their back like why

[queen laurel]

so that they can still pilot it

[small grail]

Understood

What's the titans with the churches on their backs called again?

[crystal forum]

imagine being stuck on cthonia while terra is on the brink of destruction

[small grail]

And then the church walks in

[queen laurel]

Emperor Class Titans

[opaque coyote]

"guess I'll die"

[small grail]

Exactly

[opaque coyote]

The Emperor does one 360 on his throne

The entirety of Terra is powered by the Emperor spinning on his throne

[queen laurel]

the largest titan the imperium can employ

[opaque coyote]

[crystal forum]

enough plasma to power a hive city

[small grail]

Don't those churches have sisters shooting down from em as well?

[spare osprey]

Meanwhile daemons, dudes yelling at you about how they’re death, and everyone else on the plant wants you dead

[queen laurel]

it's the mechanicus

[spare osprey]

Which was a really cool part of it they don’t mention in the campaign book

The dark angels open every single vox link, and they have all of their pyskers chanting

[small grail]

If the imperium had finances they'd be spending an incredibly massive chunk on these big fuckers

[spare osprey]

Just to overwhelm the enemy

[opaque coyote]

They are stated to be 150 meters tall I believe?

[crystal forum]

is there a point where the underground actually is where the fighting is? i didn't fully read the book yet

[spare osprey]

“We have come, we are death” like its badass as hell

[queen laurel]

that's the thing it's basically just there for show and can be countered by infantry that's why it's supported by other Titans

[small grail]

Everybody gangsta until the church starts walkin

[spare osprey]

Mhm. A majority of it was fighting in the underground mines

[opaque coyote]

Heavily impractical

But also

[spare osprey]

That’s where the daemons start rising from as well

[opaque coyote]

Really fucking cool

[crystal forum]

huh i only read the start with the gravitic mines and shit

[small grail]

Guessing it's just an intimidating force like mimic?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I feel like the Imperator should be as tall as the Effiel Tower at least

[queen laurel]

ohh no it has enough firepower to level an entire city

[crystal forum]

campaign books are sooo long

[spare osprey]

Yeah no there’s a whole battle between the thousand sons and the word bearers underground

[queen laurel]

the thing is that infantry can sneak past its shields and blow it up

[small grail]

That's shit

But wasn't there one that was like way bigger

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the Imperium is filled with

Very cool but very impractical weapons

[small grail]

It was called abominatus or something right,

[opaque coyote]

Which honestly fits them perfectly

[storm jungle]

That is still immensely tall

people just got no idea how big these buildings are

[spare osprey]

Remembered another time, the Lion kidnapped some imperial fists who came to him asking for aid defending Rogal Dorns homeworld. He forced them to join his crusade instead

[opaque coyote]

It is.

Unfortunately my 6 year old self says they want it bigger

LARGER

[storm jungle]

no

[small grail]

Kinda sometimes wonder how deadly the castigator wud be

[opaque coyote]

MORE GUNS

DAKKA

[viral halo]

The wish to buy a reaver is strong

[spare osprey]

I want a mini of them damn

3 legged titans

[small grail]

2 titans who I've heard a lot about is 1: Abominatus and 2:Castigator

My only doubt is were they canon

[crystal forum]

just remind yourself of how painful assembling it will be

[small grail]

I know that casigator was basically AI

[spare osprey]

Look at this goofy guy

[queen laurel]

Abominatus is very old lore but he was basically a titan that was being used as an Body for a demon

[small grail]

And Abominatus got taken over

[opaque coyote]

That is sick

[hallow plover]

Wtf am I looking at

[spare osprey]

Punisher Class Titan

[queen laurel]

Castigator was basically the largest Titan in imperial history until it got possessed by chaos and it was obliterated including the blueprints on how to make it

[small grail]

But he was by far the biggest the imperium had right?

[opaque coyote]

A bit too cluttered tho

[storm jungle]

to be fair

its john blanche art

[hallow plover]

|| i kinda want one ||

[spare osprey]

Exactly

[small grail]

I do like castigator and abominatuss design

[spare osprey]

I need my tripod titan

[small grail]

They're names are cool as well

[storm jungle]

Abominasus.....

[small grail]

NOOOOOOO

AHHHH THE VOICES AHHHH

[bold rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/decaying-winter-cats-funny-suffering-gif-8370557470021846888

[small grail]

But seriously tho how fucked wud the imperium be if either of them were bought back

[storm jungle]

Uh i guess like a planet or two

[small grail]

Castigator and abominatus

[hallow plover]

Which voice set is the best for psyker in darktide

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-sus-yhk-among-twerk-among-us-twerk-gif-23335803

[small grail]

Wasn't abominatus called the disposer of worlds or something

[small grail]

Oh what a grave mistake I've made

[opaque coyote]

By Hotkoin

[spare osprey]

I still think Dies Irae deserved a cooler death

[crystal forum]

i like the dies irae character arc

[small grail]

WHY @storm jungle U DID THISSSS

[crystal forum]

the whole istvan virus bombing is epic as hell

[spare osprey]

Really is

Read those first 4 books a bit ago

So good

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/mlfiresoul-among-us-crewmate-feet-cursed-gif-5730796876299319869

[small grail]

Wud a titan survive a virus bomb?

[queen laurel]

Welp Time To Batter your skull into a gooey red paste

[opaque coyote]

Yeah probably

I mean it isn't organic

[crystal forum]

it literally does so in the book

[spare osprey]

We know it would, they just had to close all their ventilation

[small grail]

I'll join u bro honestly

[fallen plaza]

That whole thing was kinda overshadowed by garros save

[crystal forum]

yeah they basically closed all vents

[opaque coyote]

VENTS???

AMONG U

[spare osprey]

Then the control crew fought

[small grail]

I'm kinda new to 40k brother so I don't know much

[opaque coyote]

THE VOICES

[fallen plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/romiksim-gachi-гачи-ммм-gif-26191984

[small grail]

How big are warhounds compared to the dreadnoughts tho?

[spare osprey]

Cause the princeps was traitor and the support lad was one of the earlier emperor worshipers

[crystal forum]

then we never hear of the dies irae from first person perspective again, it's become the enemy so we only see the effects of its bombardments

[spare osprey]

Quite big

[small grail]

Warhounds are the smallest titans I know

[opaque coyote]

I CAN FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME

IT IS A GOOD PAIN

[crystal forum]

i recommend the first 30k books

[small grail]

Oh we got a slaaneshi one here

[small grail]

Oh wow

I was so wrong

[opaque coyote]

Y'know funnily enough, the worst thing you can call a Khornate Berserker is literally call them a Slaaneshi mf

[small grail]

Literally

It's like calling them a slur

[spare osprey]

Idk if a berserker is gonna understand many of the insults thrown at them lol

[opaque coyote]

I'm just imagining some Guardsman accidentally mistaking a Khornate Marine for a Slaaneshi one

[small grail]

They are the insult

[opaque coyote]

And they somehow get even more eneaged

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/black-dog-dog-dog-bite-bite-crazy-gif-10076790192838665171

[small grail]

Eneaged

[crystal forum]

i thought leviathans were much bigger

[small grail]

Doesn't seem so brother

[opaque coyote]

Shut up necromancer

Go back to reviving skeletons

[spare osprey]

They seem that way, but I’ve got one myself and it’s pretty much just width they’ve got

I’ve yet to build my Deredeo

[small grail]

I'm the grammar necromancer bro I am tryna revive that dead pronunciation

[crystal forum]

i legit expected leviathans to be knight size

since that's how they're described

[small grail]

Literally

[opaque coyote]

The funniest thing is that World Eaters are actually extremely intelligent and well read.

It's just that the nails fucking suck.

I can imagine one calmly reading a book only for the Nails to start biting. And then they immediately start fighting the Librarian (not the SM rank)

[fallen plaza]

They cost about as much ingame

[small grail]

Man kinda wish space marine 2 wud allow us to play as a dreadnought

[opaque coyote]

Shrinkflation moment

[spare osprey]

So you’re telling me I can make my boy Enoch spout shakespire in the middle of combat

[fallen plaza]

Ingame, as in, in the tabletop you dope

[small grail]

Hold up almost forgot....how tf does marneus calgar fight with no arms and one leg?

[fallen plaza]

He gives head

[crystal forum]

very carefully

[spare osprey]

Crazy suit

[spare osprey]

[opaque coyote]

Funnily enough yeah

[small grail]

He be walking like blackbeard when the suits off

[spare osprey]

Pogo stick

[opaque coyote]

You can have one angrily quote Edgar Allen Poe

[small grail]

Or that sailor dude in family guy

[spare osprey]

Beautiful

[small grail]

Very very confused how he does it

I know prosthetics are a thing but like damn

[spare osprey]

Honestly them mechanics in warhammer can get ya far

There was a marine in the heresy who was almost entirely metal cause his gun literally killed his body when he used it

Sounded like a Dalek

https://tenor.com/view/daleks-exterminate-doctor-who-whovian-gif-10468156

[small grail]

Iron warriors moment

[spare osprey]

Dark angels actually

His men call him a glorified servitor

[small grail]

Wait what? Weren't ferruses sons heavy into prosthetics

[spare osprey]

Iron warriors and iron hands alike yup

But the dork angles just be doin whatever

[small grail]

Which is the worst fate to suffer in yalls opinion in the 40k verse

[spare osprey]

I mean they had a gun that literally erases your atoms in all of time and space

Which is lovely

[tough haven]

Oh boy where to start

probably drukhari

[opaque coyote]

Taken by the Deldar

[tough haven]

like them taking you

suicide via plasma gun is your best option

[spare osprey]

Slaanesh slave

[opaque coyote]

Make sure your brain is gone

[tough haven]

Cant revive you if theres nothing left

[spare osprey]

Dark eldar are bad but they’re just the imitations

[tough haven]

just guarentee a catastrophic containment failure

[opaque coyote]

Nah they're technically the original

Remember that the Eldar created Slaanesh

[spare osprey]

In a way ya

[tough haven]

Or nurgle if you arent a nurglite

Maybe becoming a chaos spawn if youre consious?

[crystal forum]

there is no limit to the horrors that could be inflicted onto you if a chaos entity wants you to suffer for some reason or another

[spare osprey]

I just mean like, eldar make slaanesh, slaanesh fucks em up, dark eldar become super fucked to not get taken by slaanesh. I just imagine a chaos god could do worse to you

[tough haven]

True, Deldar do have some limits

tech and ability wise

Servitorization is still imo one of the worst fates

Someone should make a lore accurate probability wheel for imperium apologists to spin to see what theyd actually be

exceptionally small chance of being rogue trader/nobility/space marine

and also to show what your fate would be ultimately

that would be fun

[tough haven]

79% chance to become a factorum worker and be worked to death

[opaque coyote]

60% being a normal citizen

35% being servitor

5% having a decent existence

[tough haven]

yeah but it would have to be broken down into each thing you could be as a human so it would be a shitton of slices on the wheel

I guess gue'vesa and non imperium options would be on there

it would just be what would you likely be as a human if you got put in the world

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the 5% is shit like being a noble, Inquistor, etc. etc.

Coalesced into one slice

[tough haven]

Actualyl can someone make that

[opaque coyote]

Also it depends on where you live

[tough haven]

personally I think that 5% drives the point home if you break it up into all the seperate slices to show just how unlikley each one is

[tough haven]

can we collab as a community to make this for funsies

[opaque coyote]

Like if you're in a Mechanicus planet the Servitor chance increases a lot

[crystal forum]

make what

[opaque coyote]

A pi chart that tells your chances of becoming what in the Imperium

[tough haven]

could be by planet

[tough haven]

as a human specifically

doesnt have to be just imperium

[crystal forum]

a pi chart would be useless for that. it would be too hard to tell the slices

[tough haven]

like if you randomly got shunted into a random human in 40k

[tough haven]

You wouldnt have to actually be able to see it

[crystal forum]

you have more chances of winning the lottery than being an important imperial if we go by the fact that there's trillions of humans

[tough haven]

it would be a digital tool to spin it

[tough haven]

I know, I just really wanna drive that point home to imperium apologists

and it might be a fun thing to do with your friends

[opaque coyote]

Also you would need a separate subchart for things like

Becoming an SM

[tough haven]

I mean, thats possible

[small grail]

Do have a question

Is slaneesh a girl?

Like the pictures make me very confused

[fallen plaza]

In what way?

[small grail]

Face

Body design

[fallen plaza]

What is this some sort of awakening?

[winter vessel]

yesn't

[small grail]

Oh god

Save me

[queen laurel]

no he's also literally called the Prince of pleasure

Basically he's any type of beauty

[fallen plaza]

There is no gender for slaneesh

[queen laurel]

he doesn't have or she doesn't have a gender

[small grail]

I get that but a lot of his features look feminine

Lotta lean to that side

[fallen plaza]

Againe

[queen laurel]

people are just horny

[fallen plaza]

Slaneesh has no gender

[small grail]

I'm losing it dude

[fallen plaza]

It is whatever you desire to be

[queen laurel]

It's basically whatever form is pleasing to the person

[fallen plaza]

Exhibit A

[small grail]

That means slaneesh is real...cuz...I wanted it to be a girl

Mentally

Oh no

It worked

[fallen plaza]

Weird place to come out

[small grail]

GAHH

[fallen plaza]

Go tell your family before everyone here gets second hand embarrassment

[small grail]

It's a joke but like still

[fallen plaza]

Somehow i doubt it

[small grail]

It's pictures are so odd

[fallen plaza]

😁

[small grail]

I am no heretic brother

[fallen plaza]

I didnt say heretic

[small grail]

U imply so

[fallen plaza]

I said boy liker

[small grail]

And I say that I like girl

We are two different arguments here

[fallen plaza]

[small grail]

But jokes apart

What are the eldar gods

Cuz like khorne saved a bunch of em apparently before I read somewhere

[queen laurel]

no literally nothing else like that's why Slannesh's demons look like this it's because beauty isn't stuck to one gender

[small grail]

Before he got his back folded like an omelette

[queen laurel]

Slannesh's form is just what you think is attractive

[small grail]

Not gonna work on me

[celest dome]

Only Khaine

[small grail]

What do eldar gods like even do

[queen laurel]

Godstuff

[small grail]

Opinions on Kharn the betrayer lads?

[queen laurel]

Khaine being the god of war

[celest dome]

Only 4 Eldar god are still active
Khaine
Isha
Cegorach
And the new born Ynnead

[dusk patrol]

So why don’t any Slannesh Daemons look like Transformers 1 Megan Fox?

[winter vessel]

he exists

[celest dome]

Similar stuff to the Emperor

[queen laurel]

Isha Being life

[small grail]

Based opinion lright here

[queen laurel]

That's just you you weird mechanical machinations of horniness

[small grail]

And u called me weird @fallen plaza

[storm jungle]

Slaanesh is largely referred to as a man.

[dusk patrol]

I feel like saying “Megan Fox is hot especially transformers 1 Megan Fox” isn’t exactly a scalding hot take.

[arctic talon]

I’m sure at least some pretend to look like them

[storm jungle]

only Eldar refer to Slaanesh as a female

[celest dome]

The 'Dark Prince'

[small grail]

Take the L brother

[dusk patrol]

But if it is, I’ll die on that cross

[storm jungle]

in reality he has no gender but hes been referred to as a guy for so long it basically doesnt matter

[arctic talon]

Also lorgar’s homeworld

[small grail]

Yep

[arctic talon]

If that’s even relevant

Lol

[storm jungle]

who gives a shit about lorgar

[queen laurel]

I mean yes but I just really don't care about your opinion on that topic

[storm jungle]

EXACTLY

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1281431334048239656/Untitled_Project_V13.gif

[winter vessel]

Slaanesh: some/thing that's how i do it

[storm jungle]

lol

but yeah GW rarely ever uses gender neutral pronouns

[small grail]

Bros gender is as fluid as water

[winter vessel]

Ad Ridiculous is really ripping on the SM2 story rn.

[queen laurel]

Shame yeah and literally one of his prominent titles is prince of darkness

[storm jungle]

Good

gimme a link

[dusk patrol]

The story is pretty basic

The visuals are what made it

It’s a very generic story though besides that

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/vbnkCfZY0Ao?si=Cy870qSFdQoh9wmd

[storm jungle]

Based ty

[small grail]

What's the shtick of the tyranids

[dusk patrol]

If I read a book with that story I’d be very annoyed

[rocky gale]

Shy did a video about it as well and ripped into it a bit

[small grail]

Are they like the orks?

[storm jungle]

good to have some actual takes that arent just meatriding this game tbh

[dusk patrol]

Endless horde of aliens who want to consume everything

Led by a hive mind

[storm jungle]

the game is good but people saying its GOTY material is actually crazy

[small grail]

Sorta like orks?

[dusk patrol]

Adapting to most attempts to stop them

Not really

[storm jungle]

Orks just simply wage war

[queen laurel]

the obligatory bug alien race like Zerg

[storm jungle]

they are a horde faction

[small grail]

Which game

[storm jungle]

READ

THE CHAT

[winter vessel]

It follows the basic formula of a shooter game, which i get. I thought the story was good, as a 40k novice

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

that adapt

[small grail]

Sister it was lost in the fray relax

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s a lot of fun and I’m very happy with it but its story is super low effort writing wise.

[small grail]

Ok ok found it

[fallen plaza]

Scroll up silly

[queen laurel]

how about you grow some eyes on that skull of yours

[small grail]

Can't do that

[winter vessel]

but if not the story, then the world environment is where it shined.

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[small grail]

I'd have to be deadpool for that

[dusk patrol]

Visually it was awesome

And is awesome

[small grail]

Space marine 2 had great visuals yea

[dusk patrol]

All the operations and story maps were cool and unique

[queen laurel]

Use Magic ya Bony fuck

[dusk patrol]

Lots of cool details

[queen laurel]

cast power word Sight

[small grail]

Not tzeentch worshipper

[hallow plover]

Sm2 is fun but it's missing something. I'm sure the planned upcoming content roadmap will improve the overall experience

[dusk patrol]

It’s got some stuff to iron out

[small grail]

What do u think it's missing?

Genuine question

[winter vessel]

I'm just glad we didn't have another Leandros situation with Titus' new guys, i would've rolled my eyes on that

[dusk patrol]

Idk they can always add more stuff

[wintry scarab]

I see a lot of people saying that its mid while im sat here thinking its a 7.5 out of ten and having an amazing time.

[dusk patrol]

It’s good, it’s just not an amazing story writing wise

If you don’t like or care about 40k this ain’t gonna win you over but I think it’ll make a lot of fans who jive with it

And please existing fans

[small grail]

If they add like a lore compendium or something where u cud go to like different crucial events in the imperiums lifespan...that wud be cool but complicated

[queen laurel]

I mean space marine one is that as well, the only aspect I say they improved on was the multiplayer

[dusk patrol]

It does need a codex too

[wintry scarab]

Oh, yeah 100%. Its a cod story with amazing setpeices and memorable moments. And imo thats great.

[hallow plover]

Don't get me wrong, I liked the game a lot. I just feel like the pvp is bare. As for the campaign / coop it just need polishing

[dusk patrol]

Space marine 1 while cool was much much more generic

[small grail]

Wudve loved to see robu guiliman to be honest tho

[rocky gale]

Rating scales are broken so, 7/10 is what lots of people consider to be Mid

[queen laurel]

yes especially on the multiplayer front

[winter vessel]

I've yet to step into the PVP ring, i've only watched videos of it

[hallow plover]

I'm happy if the game does well since it means the next one will (probably) improve upon

[dusk patrol]

I’ve played SM1 recently, it really wasn’t even visually special for the time

[small grail]

This is far fetched I'd say

[queen laurel]

Well what do you expect it's the classic linear action game where you shoot up and destroy stuff

[small grail]

It had good combat for its time

[queen laurel]

it gets that job done at least it

same with space marine 2

[storm jungle]

Thats because this game is very much targeted at people like you that wojak point and go "omg" at spectacles.

which isnt a bad thing

[tough haven]

I love seeing people malding at how hard sm2 is, sorry to ruin your space marine power fantasy, but your still mortal and if you get shot a bunch you still die

[dusk patrol]

Eh it was ok, I’d say this one is an improvement on every front, especially visually

[queen laurel]

it's the multiplayer where space marine two wins out on

[small grail]

I kinda feel like the thunder hammer got a bit nerfed

[winter vessel]

that was pretty much the intent, i think they were going for mass appeal

[storm jungle]

but people circlejerking the campaign like its some next level storytelling is a bit weird

[arctic talon]

The games a 7 or 8/10 when spacemarine 1 was like a 5 or 6/10

Imo

[dusk patrol]

SM1 was part of that era where everything was brown and grey

[wintry scarab]

Yeah, I agree that there is a lot wrong but i overall think its a 👍 . Im just surprised at how many people are not so pleased with the game while im usually pretty critical.

[small grail]

I liked the massive head of it it wud look so cool

[tough haven]

And nids are busted

[storm jungle]

Its not that surprising tbh

idk why people are even shocked by it

[small grail]

The time in that era wasn't exactly different

[queen laurel]

No Grimskull equivalent 6 out of 10

[small grail]

U know I actually wonder sometimes what happened to leandros

[winter vessel]

most newbies are still stuck on the power fantasy

[hallow plover]

I'm satisfied with my purchase. I'll delve more into the coop missions. Might get more interesting at higher levels with more perks and higher difficulties

[dusk patrol]

[storm jungle]

Guys

[winter vessel]

,,,,

[storm jungle]

how do we tell him

[queen laurel]

well

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[hallow plover]

I also want to try the upcoming horde mode

[queen laurel]

shit

[small grail]

What?

[storm jungle]

The game is out for like 2 days now

is it even a spoiler at this point

[queen laurel]

do you want me to spoil you so bad you become a rotting corpse

[storm jungle]

its not even a good one

[small grail]

I'm new to 40k I genuinely don't know

[small grail]

It ain't bait

[hallow plover]

I mean it is somewhat guessable

[wintry scarab]

Ive just played my first few games of multiplayer pvp and it just feels like its got that halo energy to it and im having a blast. So far at least.

[storm jungle]

Leandros is the chaplain that just berates you every time you get back on the ship and he gets revealed like 10s before the game is over

[small grail]

I don't know Jackshit

[storm jungle]

^

[queen laurel]

he became a chaplain

[small grail]

Oh

[storm jungle]

its so easy to guess its funny

[queen laurel]

look at that

[small grail]

No fuckin way

[storm jungle]

god dont act like this is some crazy revelation please

i legit hate that lol

[queen laurel]

we had multiple conversations about him here

[rose thorn]

I just realized what do ultramarine chaplins even do?

[hallow plover]

He litterally tells you about sticking to the codex the first time you meet him

[storm jungle]

keep up morale

[small grail]

How'd that little bitch become a chaplain

[crystal forum]

why they even considered making this a reveal instead of just having him be the character the whole time, i will never understand

[storm jungle]

thats what all chapmen do

[dusk patrol]

Same as all the others

Ensure no corruption, keep morale

[storm jungle]

Its basically a cheap "wojakpoint" trope.

[dusk patrol]

Act as therapists

[storm jungle]

like they dont even hang on his reveal

[hallow plover]

They're the commisars of the Space marines

[storm jungle]

he takes his helmet off for 5s

and you leave

thats it

lol

[rose thorn]

I didn’t know they did that lmao

[winter vessel]

honestly it figures he would become a chaplain with how much he cares about the Codex Astartes. Novamarines would love to adopt him

[crystal forum]

it would have changed literally nothing to the story to have leandros just be revealed at the start

[wintry scarab]

Also just to make sure, i didnt like the calgar bits. Imo lore wise, the last like 10mins of the game were the worst. Felt like some marvel shit.

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/209843216227368962/1283468568461312010/59bc6296aa91f3cac8176d736700f1e52.mp4?ex=66e31ac0&is=66e1c940&hm=465579ab1433eff4df2b92e48e0abc3a0fe5664790bf8422f0f93d98b588e2fa&

[storm jungle]

That would be a lot better tbh

[storm jungle]

The presentation of Calgar was great until you remember hes Calgar.

[tough haven]

What you wanna know about the setting?

[dusk patrol]

They’re there for the spiritual and mental well being of the brothers of the chapter and to ensure they’re able to keep doing their duties

[storm jungle]

thats how id put it

[crystal forum]

makes us understand the chaplain's assholeness even more

[hallow plover]

I liked Nemeroth better as a villain tho

[winter vessel]

I was mostly awed be cause the VA almost had me convinced that was Mark Strong for Calgar

[hallow plover]

Even if he does jackshit

[storm jungle]

like if you dont like Ultras you'll just see Calgar and go "Huh cool hes here"

[dusk patrol]

I dunno the Tsons guy was hammy and fun

He talked about dance a lot

[storm jungle]

Imurah was peak cheese

[dusk patrol]

Definitely a closet EC

[storm jungle]

guy coomed his pants as he died so good on him

[crystal forum]

i admit i pogged when he came in on the thundrrhawk

it was a cool reveal

YEAAAH CALGAAAR

[dusk patrol]

The banner scene and the dreadnought scenes were the best parts

[arctic talon]

Imurah was so fucking fun

[storm jungle]

^

[hallow plover]

Tsons really are losers

[winter vessel]

I really thought it was Mark Strong

[storm jungle]

lmao

Mark Strong has such a unique voice tho

the entire end segment was what made my 6 out of 10 a 7

[winter vessel]

as a crimson fists fan that was a nice little homage with the Banner Stand

[wintry scarab]

I was the opposite lol. I rolled my eyes.

[storm jungle]

same

[crystal forum]

they did a good job at keeping the crazy stuff for the end so we end the game with a good impression

[storm jungle]

Like i like most chapter master characters

Calgar is just not interesting

lol

[hallow plover]

I'd give half a point more but yes

[arctic talon]

Imurah’s fight went hard

[hallow plover]

Then end is fun

[arctic talon]

I loved it

[dusk patrol]

Yeah that was wild

[storm jungle]

Imurah went full metal gear rising

[winter vessel]

what would've been out of left field jumping out of that ThunderHawk? Malum Caedo

[storm jungle]

bro legit thought he was doctor strange or some shit

[crystal forum]

the game peaks at the very start and the very end lol

[hallow plover]

At least we have boss fights in this game

[storm jungle]

this lmao

the entire "brother you are sus" plotline made me wanna kms

[hallow plover]

Was there any in sm1 besides grimskull?

[dusk patrol]

I dunno why everyone bothers with magic when you can just use your I-frames to dodge it all and shoot them in the face

Kinda pathetic ngl

[storm jungle]

Gandalf take notes

[arctic talon]

Yeah honestly the plot is kind of inane

For the whole

Amogus shit

[winter vessel]

I was mostly distracted by that from Gadriel's good looks

[crystal forum]

me on tabletop pressing C to counter the khornate charge

[dusk patrol]

Also fuck the Neuro/Zoanthropes in the multiplayer holy shit

[storm jungle]

people going horny about Gadriel is great

lol

[dusk patrol]

Shielding eachother like little bitches jfc

[crystal forum]

the implant kills it for me

[arctic talon]

Zoanthrope circle jerk

[distant sierra]

Brother I saw you vent

[storm jungle]

literally

[arctic talon]

Is so annoying

[dusk patrol]

That’s cause you’re weak

[winter vessel]

most enemies i do a finisher on i do it for necessity of health and armor. But those flying bags? Oh its PERSONAL

[crystal forum]

i am not a true iron hand

weaaaak

[arctic talon]

Give me lore accurate zoanthrope that just

Kills me

Just get it over with

I hate it when one shows up

[dusk patrol]

Neurothrope finisher is very satisfying

[arctic talon]

Just let it lift me up and make me explode

[dusk patrol]

Shank it’s ass with its own talon

[arctic talon]

Helbrute or neurothrope

Which one is worse

[dusk patrol]

Neurothrope

[winter vessel]

I half expected this thing to show up in the game

[storm jungle]

same

the lack of nids sucks

[dusk patrol]

Helbrute you can dodge much easier and it has a lot more “stunned” animations

[arctic talon]

Makes sense

They are a new enemy, it’s just a fucking mini gun rubric

Have fun

[dusk patrol]

I do appreciate that Melta bombs fucking destroy everything

[arctic talon]

Mhm

[tough haven]

Its a space marine game, they only care about SMs and CSM, I thought youd be used to it, xenos dont get shit

[wintry scarab]

SM2 feels like a halo2 situation. Where it was rushed but somehow came out pretty good. I just hope they dont pull a darktide and take 2 years to add a new enemy or some shit.

[dusk patrol]

They can one shot every single extremis enemy even on ruthless

[winter vessel]

that's the play I did when dealing with the hive tyrant. lured him in and my team and i placed our melta bombs to wipe out its last bar of health

[storm jungle]

care about CSM?

Bro look at the pvp

💀

[dusk patrol]

And they do like a fourth to a third health damage to most mini bosses

[arctic talon]

There’s more nids then csm shit

Lol

[dusk patrol]

A fourth health to the Tyrant

[arctic talon]

I soy’d when I saw a venom cannon nid

[small grail]

Confessed that u like women

[storm jungle]

I mean thats kinda the case for the road map.

Most of the "new content" is DLC packs and cosmetics

[tough haven]

Well I mean CSM actually gets some content, more than xenos

[storm jungle]

im gonna be surprised if they even stick to the map

roadmaps always fall apart

[arctic talon]

That’s not even really true?

[dusk patrol]

I would like more proper boss fights like the Hive Tyrant

[queen laurel]

out of the current 6 missions, how many of them have chaos marines

[arctic talon]

Uh

Like 3?

[hallow plover]

Can you choose your side in pvp? I've been on chaos side for 100% of my games

[arctic talon]

But one of them is 50/50 between nids and csm

[small grail]

We never saw brother after that day

[queen laurel]

So it's a split

[hallow plover]

Can't even use my custom marines

[tough haven]

I mean in wider lore, not just in sm2

[winter vessel]

now if only a tyranid Heirophant was in the game

[small grail]

Big split

[dusk patrol]

I also like during the campaign that the multiplayer stuff is arguably the more interesting plot going on to help Titus

[arctic talon]

Requeue

It’s in a lobby system

[small grail]

How good or bad are hellbrutes

[arctic talon]

Once you’re on a side you’re on it

[arctic talon]

Annoying as shit

[dusk patrol]

Like assassinating the Hive Tyrant

[arctic talon]

Also they teleport

[wintry scarab]

I fucking hate roadmaps. Just hint at whats up next with a around date. Dont go planning the next 5 years.

[arctic talon]

The hive tyrant fight is great

Tbh

[winter vessel]

it reminded me of the classic Cod special ops missions

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[small grail]

U telling me a big mutated penguin dude can teleport?

[tough haven]

I wish they showed off the shadow in the warp's effects more, just in general

[dusk patrol]

Can’t wait for lethal difficulty

And more missions

[tough haven]

they can when they fucking use magic

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah the thousand sons do that

[small grail]

What's the deal with corvus corax

I don't hear much about him

[dusk patrol]

We don’t know

[arctic talon]

He unlocked his psyker potential he’s somewhere in the eye

[hallow plover]

Any defend thing with health was hell already

[winter vessel]

the next big Nid baddie I want to punch? this Guy...

[arctic talon]

The tervigon?

[crystal forum]

because he's one of the lesser used primarchs

[crisp heath]

Dude, I need a siege type mission where we hunt down a bio titan

Just hitting it with tons of bullshit over the course of a 40 minute mission

[arctic talon]

Also the guardsmen not being literally useless like they were in the first game is nice

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

They can actually kill shit

[dusk patrol]

They do some work

[crisp heath]

They kill shit well

[winter vessel]

that was very nice, yes

[crisp heath]

As long as it ain’t warriors

[dusk patrol]

I still barely saved any at all despite my best efforts but

[winter vessel]

they don't have the handicap of standing idle as much

[arctic talon]

Ngl it’s impossible to save them in some fights

The astropathic relay defense

💀

[rocky gale]

When will SM2 let you fight a Norn Emissary

[arctic talon]

I feel like Titus gets cooked

[crystal forum]

when are we killing a queen

[arctic talon]

Lol

[crisp heath]

So I don’t know much about the tyranids

[tough haven]

Yeah like nids have a lot of variety

[winter vessel]

i throw caution into the wind...cause y'know...my mother hen mode kicks in

[arctic talon]

Never

[crisp heath]

Are the warriors their comparative space marinesv

[arctic talon]

Norn queens are in the ships

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[tough haven]

more or less

[winter vessel]

this requires a D2 level raid of absurdity, full 6 man team

[queen laurel]

yes

[arctic talon]

About 2 warriors is equal to a marine in lore

Depending on like

The situation

[crystal forum]

what if that's where they're heading at the end

[rocky gale]

On Tabletop though Tyranid Warriors deploy in squads of 3 or 6

[queen laurel]

But I'm also pretty sure there are like elite warriors that are comparable to a space marine right

[arctic talon]

A Tyranid prime

Shits on the average marine

[winter vessel]

we don't even have a visual art concept of what they look like, that's a long shot

[arctic talon]

Lol

[dusk patrol]

The hive guard or whatever r

[crisp heath]

Obviously not Titus (ignore me getting absolutely bodied by a swarm of 4 of them

[arctic talon]

Hive guard are the true marine equivelent yeah

Big shoulder pads and all

[winter vessel]

yeah this wouldn't be fun fighting

[arctic talon]

Warriors are odd

They’re marine equivalents in someways

But they’re more like sgts. For gaunts

Lore wise

[rocky gale]

Yea for the Gaunts they act as a relay for the Hivemind

[arctic talon]

Like they’ll be keeping the synapse up

More so then being shocktroops

[winter vessel]

the nid mechanic reminds of Halo's classic approach with the Covenant squads. deal with the Splitjaw, and then the alien cones start scattering

[queen laurel]

just to piss off the players in lethal difficulty I want the hive tyrant to get this

[arctic talon]

The synaptic backlash effect is cool

[queen laurel]

just two of these guys

[crisp heath]

Erm, why don’t they marines always just kill the big tyranids and all the little ones die

[arctic talon]

Because

It’s hard

[crisp heath]

Boom

War saved

[arctic talon]

That is also a valid strat

But synaptic backlash

Doesn’t work how it’s depicted

[tough haven]

Yeah thats my favorite part of the game tbh

[arctic talon]

Exactly

[tough haven]

that effect is cool

some of them jsut die

[crisp heath]

I wish there was something like that for the chaos dudes

[winter vessel]

it gives some breathing room

[arctic talon]

Synaptic backlash doesn’t always kill the little ones

[tough haven]

but for the most part they just stop working together or with any sort of cohesion or goal

[arctic talon]

And they’ll like

[crisp heath]

Cause fuck fighting those guys

[arctic talon]

Still chew you to death

[tough haven]

but they dont really use tactics

[arctic talon]

There is for sorcerers and cultists lol

But the cultists explode into the fucking pfojectiles

[rocky gale]

Yea it usually just causes the little ones to revert to being feral beasts

[arctic talon]

Which is really fucking funny

[winter vessel]

i just stopped shooting when i realized i could just smash into them.

[arctic talon]

The synaptic effect in game is like worst case scenario backlash in lore

[tough haven]

the tactic for nids is to have some of your men hold off the waves of small ones, and have specialized units pick off any synapse units

[arctic talon]

It just fires the gaunts brains

[tough haven]

as quick as possible

[crisp heath]

Blue is lucky lol

[arctic talon]

Also there’s gaunt varients

Who can carry the synapse effect

[rocky gale]

Neurogaunts

[crisp heath]

Nids somehow suffer the worst backlash ever

[arctic talon]

Neurogant nodebeasts

[crisp heath]

Cause we’re blue

[arctic talon]

And also there’s the “crown” thingy

That the Nids started using in octarius

[torpid narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marines-space-marine2-chainsword-jump-land-gif-25493767

[paper haven]

Just killed the Neuroguant.

[tough haven]

the huh?

[paper haven]

Pain in the ass

[arctic talon]

It’s an extra crest and shit

[wintry scarab]

Also, anyone else feel like some of the colour choices for legions/chapters are just really strange? Like i swear this is not the colour of iron warriors.

[arctic talon]

Neurothrope 🤓 akshully

[tough haven]

anything that looks brainy, big or special, is priority target to kill as quick as possible

[crisp heath]

Also I no longer believe the hivemind is not malicious

[tough haven]

whats it do?

[arctic talon]

It’s a synaptic point

[tough haven]

ah its just an upgrade

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-trap-card-trap-triggered-gif-12909225702038116

[arctic talon]

That’s not a trap card

[paper haven]

The heretic skins are really barebones

[arctic talon]

That’s a 1400 attack vanilla beat stick

[rocky gale]

Problem is there could be an obscene number of Neurogaunts spread out within a gaunt horde acting as relays

[crisp heath]

Cause I heard a story of one bio form hunting a great charismatic leader of a planet and leaving him alive instead of making him a matter to turn him into a babbling terrified shell of his former self

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crisp heath]

That’s malicious as hell

[arctic talon]

Death leaper did that

[small grail]

Who's the raven primarch like the very pale dude

[paper haven]

I misspelled it on purpose to see if someone would correct me, yes that is exactly what I did. I did not forget what the thing was called no sir it was all part of my plan

[queen laurel]

thats Death Leaper

[winter vessel]

Cadians don't sit at the top of my list for favorite guard regiments, they're vanilla. But I gotta give props for the speech delivery the VA did.

[paper haven]

Which one? There's 2.

[queen laurel]

the most menacing and unique Tyranid Lictor

[wintry scarab]

Im just praying that we get some chaos operations and those come with full chaos customization. But thats definitely not happening.

[arctic talon]

Corvus corax

[crisp heath]

Ngl

[small grail]

Ah so that's him

[crisp heath]

I think Corvus is kinda cool

Just edgy

[small grail]

Always got confused with him and confad

Conrad

[paper haven]

Konrad is psycho batman.
Corvus is emo poetry boi

[crisp heath]

Don’t worry, Conrad wouldn’t let you mix it up again

[small grail]

Corvus is the ravenguards primarch right?

[rocky gale]

I'd recommend reading the Martyrdom of Sister Ishani, it's about a Sororitas outpost being stalked by a Lictor

[small grail]

I'm so cooked

[crystal forum]

yes

[crisp heath]

He’s Konrad is literally just the worst

[small grail]

Conrad went out so badly tho

[paper haven]

Lictors are actually terrifying

[crystal forum]

it's also spelled konrad because warhammer

[crisp heath]

He went out to prove a point

[small grail]

Blud said I know I'm gonna die and I accept it

[winter vessel]

that's a good one

[small grail]

Basically

[paper haven]

Only problem is that he did everything in his power to make that happen.

[small grail]

Absolute joke

[crystal forum]

he also sucks

[small grail]

Yea

[tough haven]

genuinely

[small grail]

I'd say he's one of the most hated primarch

[crystal forum]

he thought he'd do a socrates

[small grail]

To this day I won't know who Alpharius really was

[paper haven]

Like: "Oh man, the punishment for treason is death I guess I gotta do a treason to prove I was right."

[small grail]

Cuz everyone is Alpharius in his legion

[arctic talon]

Alpharius is

A corpse

Omegons alive

[paper haven]

I seriously doubt Alpharius is dead and- hear me out-

Primarchs can be cloned

[crystal forum]

no they cannot

not fully

[small grail]

But like into a whole legion? No way

[paper haven]

It doesn't have to be perfect

[small grail]

Who was that dude who tried to bring back fulbright?

[crystal forum]

fabius bile

[paper haven]

If any legion would use cloned primarchs to do missions, it would be the Alpha legion

[crystal forum]

he also cloned horus

but all the clones had no souls

which in warhammer means weak af

[tough haven]

I thought clonegrim had a soul?

[paper haven]

Which would explain why Alpharius was so easy for Dorn to kill

[small grail]

Did the fulgrim clone survive?

[paper haven]

That's my theory

[tough haven]

its trazyns now

so kinda

its just a statue effectively

[small grail]

Didn't he exhibit old fulgrims qualities like slowly

[plush mason]

what did Bile trade him for anyway?

[small grail]

Why did fulgrim go bad bro I don't get it still

[paper haven]

As far as I know, clones have the memories of the original.

In the story where Alpharius died, he had memory issues.

[crystal forum]

he has a whole book about it named after him if you're interested

[tough haven]

gene seed

[paper haven]

Woke up in a box with no idea who he was.

[small grail]

Identity disorder badically

[crystal forum]

not my favorite HH book but it's an important one

[tough haven]

picked up a cursed sword

bro didnt take it to an artificer first

[paper haven]

Ergo: He was a clone.

[crisp heath]

Were there any nightlords that weren’t just sadistic monsters just for the fun of it?

[paper haven]

Same thing with when Guilliman killed Alpharius. Clone.

[hallow plover]

Picked up a daemon sword and got possessed or something.

[paper haven]

Ehhh. Maybe with Talos?

[arctic talon]

Fulgrims fall fucking sucks from a story telling perspective

[arctic talon]

Not really

[dusk patrol]

That’s generally what they do

[arctic talon]

The nightlords trait in heresy

[crisp heath]

What about when rogal killed alpharius? Also clone?

[arctic talon]

Is literally to gang up on people

And kick them while they’re down

[arctic talon]

Real one

Alpharius is dead

[dusk patrol]

That’s why the hive mind made hive guard and other bigger forms to protect the synapse creatures

[plush mason]

so how many Alpharius clones are there?

[arctic talon]

Incredibly fucking dead

[arctic talon]

That isn’t even confirmed as a true story in lore

UM have no record of the fight with omegon

[tough haven]

in sm2 do they ever show the really horrifying nid weapons?

[arctic talon]

It’s most likely a fabrication

[paper haven]

That's generally considered when the real Alpharius died. But I don't buy it.

[arctic talon]

The cadian screams are horrifying

If the author says it’s the real Alpharius

[crystal forum]

it's funny because fulgrim's personality barely changes after being corrupted

[arctic talon]

It’s the real fucking alpharius

[crystal forum]

he just seeks even more perfection

[paper haven]

As many as the stories need, I suppose.

[arctic talon]

Alpharius being dead doesn’t even change anything

[crisp heath]

So is omega still alive then?

[arctic talon]

There aren’t any alpharius clones

[arctic talon]

Yes

[crisp heath]

The twin

[arctic talon]

He’s the living twin

[paper haven]

The legion not reacting to his death is another reason why I don't buy it.

[arctic talon]

There’s legionaries pretending to be Alpharius

[plush mason]

take a full deathspitter volley to the face on tier 3 and tell me if they are horrifying or not lol

[arctic talon]

Omegon reacts to it

And then he gives a shattered knife to Horus

[crisp heath]

I always thought alpha and omega legion lore was stupid ngl

[arctic talon]

It’s pretty obvious he’s saying the Legion is shattered after the death of Alpharius

[hallow plover]

Night lords were doing atrocities and terror shit because the emperor asked them to. (Some kind of let every one focus on them for being evil so the other evils of the imperium goes unnoticed). Then big E threw them under the bus without recognition for the sacrifice and the NL got salty. (All this according to a NL member)

[paper haven]

The death of a primarch can be felt by the entire legion and has serious consequences. All we saw was Omegon being a little sad.

[fallen plaza]

Alpha legion watches alpaharius death (reaction video)

[plush mason]

lossing all my armor and half my health in a few seconds had me making this face

[storm jungle]

One of the twins is 100% dead

Sanguinius sees his soul in the Warp

[arctic talon]

We know Alpharius is dead

[storm jungle]

along with the other dead primarchs

[arctic talon]

The author literally says so

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

It’s not up for debate he got his fucking head sawed off

[crystal forum]

are they just chilling in the warp together

[crisp heath]

What does he know smh

He was probably paid of by alpharius

[arctic talon]

Idk

[tough haven]

No I mean they are fairly strong lore wise, but I want to see the like really agonizing death, isnta kill almost anything stuff

[paper haven]

Ah, then it was a very anti-climactic death for a primarch.

[arctic talon]

I guess?

It kind of fits alpharius

[crystal forum]

so there's 3 fully confirmed dead primarchs right

[arctic talon]

Going out in such a benign way

[tough haven]

primarchs are anticlimactic in general

[storm jungle]

the book says that they are all setting up to watch the fight betwen Sanguinius and Horus, its a really funny image lol

[arctic talon]

Curze, alpharius, sanguinus, Ferrus, Horus

[paper haven]

That whole story felt off to me.

[crystal forum]

i forgot horus and sang im dumb

[storm jungle]

yeah the "dead" ones im mentioning are also the daemon primarchs as well who got banished

they are literally sitting to see the fight

its so goofy

[hallow plover]

Fully as can't be ressurected or other shenanigans?