He would have zombies at his disposal and all that
#40k-lore-chat
outer wave
Oh Yhettis would be cool
celest dome
More like a RoR for an Yethee unit
queen laurel
he could work
rose thorn
there's also Haurg Frostmaw
hi yeti
small grail
there's also Haurg Frostmaw
Cute
outer wave
Give him a smooch
queen laurel
Give him a smooch
I'm gonna grab you by the head and make it so that when you kiss him he will bite your mouth off
outer wave
Whoa...
fallen plaza
I'm gonna grab you by the head and make it so that when you kiss him he will bit...
Bulge not beating the gay allegations
queen laurel
*Shuffles back into cardboard box*
GRABS THE BOX AND PUNTS IT TO A TROLL INFESTED SWAMP
outer wave
**GRABS THE BOX AND PUNTS IT TO A TROLL INFESTED SWAMP**
FUCKING DIES IN THE FUCKING TROLL INFESTED SWAMP THEN THE SWAM EXPLODES
fallen plaza
crystal forum
cease and desist
fallen plaza
And can we turn it into erp
Do you people ever say the shit you type out loud
radiant lance
Yes
fallen plaza
And realize how cringe you are
radiant lance
I have no qualms
bold rampart
guys this is fail rp, im calling the mods
rose thorn
look at the search tags
queen laurel
the old one was
all i saw is the incredible pricing
and the tag you know being metal
rose thorn
but they just copy and pasted the new one on the old one
queen laurel
but they just copy and pasted the new one on the old one
yeah that makes sense
fallen plaza
Amazing effort on GW as usual
small grail
I'm gonna bring back lemon russ boys
But I'm gonna make him like a lycanthrope
I mean it's only fitting
celest dome
Fan fiction writers
small grail
Hey I do write comprehensive lore man
small grail
Fan fiction writers
Tho thanks for the idea actually
I cud go for a odin leman
But lycanthrope is cuz of the lore ain't half bad
fallen plaza
Homebrew space marine chapter writers when they have to come up with a chapter name without stealing from the ashen circle
small grail
Chat which wud work better a odin-like leman Russ or a lycanthrope leman
celest dome
Depend on what you want to do
small grail
If jm gonna make a fan lore I need to know what's in demand
I.make books for fun and for others to enjoy reading so thas why
opaque coyote
So if a Space Marine gets hit with a plasma gun shot towards their torso
Will they die instantly
Or can their armor absorb one or two shots
opaque coyote
If they have some energy shield they'll be fine
I love how energy shields in SM chapters are relatively rare
Usually only given for like
Valor or high positions
soft thunder
Chat which wud work better a odin-like leman Russ or a lycanthrope leman
Odin Russ would basically follow the same character arch as the Lion. Odin-Russ would be embracing use of the spear the Emperor gave him, rather than disdaining it. Becoming an older, wiser more even tempered individual.
opaque coyote
But then we got the scab captain with an energy shield
And also the Karnak Twins
But tbf, the twins used to be nobles
And nobles often get a lot of shit
celest dome
Well the SM energy shields are higher grades usually
If you have Power armour, having lesser energy shields isn't really that useful
small grail
Odin Russ would basically follow the same character arch as the Lion. Odin-Russ ...
And assuming a lycanthrope russ wud be disdainful
opaque coyote
True
You'd think that the regular SMs would get shittier grade shields since it's better to have some protection than zero
opaque coyote
If you have Power armour, having lesser energy shields isn't really that useful
Why not tho
You'd be able to take some more hits
small grail
But russ and the emperor didn't have the best relationship did they?
@opaque coyote that's an adorable pfp bro
celest dome
Why not tho
Cause lesser hits that would be stopped by lesser energy shields would be stopped by the armour anyway
And you can't mass produced them to be used for every SM
soft thunder
I mostly only have a cursory knowledge of the primarchs, but Russ was a loyal dog of the Emperor. I don't think he disliked the Emperor, but Russ seem very individualistic. I'd say Russ had a positive relationship with the emperor compared to all the other primarchs.
Lycanthrope traitor Russ would be cool though
arctic talon
Russ liked the emperor yeah
small grail
I mostly only have a cursory knowledge of the primarchs, but Russ was a loyal do...
Mm nice
I cud work with that
Gimme 2 days or 3 or maybe by today or tomorrow whatever time itll be for u guys max
opaque coyote
But russ and the emperor didn't have the best relationship did they?
Russ was trusted to be the "Emperor's executioner".
He was loyal
Because at the end of the day
He is a wolf
And a wolf wants a family
They want a pack
Unfortunately it didn't end so well
soft thunder
Also, why didn't Russ like the spear big E gave him? did it make him feel all tingly with golden warp magic?
opaque coyote
Also, why didn't Russ like the spear big E gave him? did it make him feel all ti...
The Wolves literally just hate spears
That's it
He just didn't like the spear
Russ did not like the spear. He did not like spears as a weapon in general. He preferred the nobility of swords. They were hard to make and hard to fight with well. In their laboriously forged edges and the skill required to use them was the legacy of kings. After swords, Russ favoured axes. The axe's smile was a warriors battle joy made manifest. Axes needed strength and cunning. They were heavy and slow. Timing with an axe was all. When handled poorly they were a death sentence for the wielder. When landed correctly they had power no other edged weapon did, breaking armour, carving flesh and smashing bones. They were a murder tool, uncompromising in their brutality. They were joyous, they were honest.
Spears were cunning. Spears did not smile like an axe, nor did they possess a sword's majesty. A spear was a darting tongue, wounding like a hag's unkind words. The spear was the mocker in the court, the long reach of shame. A spear put a man at too far a remove from his foe. You could not taste a man's fear sweat when wielding a spear. You could not look him dead in the eye. Might as well use a gun as a spear.
Russ's thoughts on the matter, from Wolfsbane.
dusk patrol
He didn’t like the spear and he didn’t like the whole fate aspect of it
How it kept coming back to him and what it represented
opaque coyote
Russ is generally two things to me
One of the most human primarchs
But also one of the most asshole, overconfident, and braindented ones
small grail
Lycanthrope russ it is
opaque coyote
"bro guys trust me the wulfen aren't warp daemons"
"bro trust trust they aren't Psykers they're rune priests"
THEY ARE THE SAME FUCKING THING
YOU BRAINDENTED HYPOCRITE
dusk patrol
The Wulfen aren’t warp daemons
dusk patrol
Anyways largely the point with Magnus, which the White Scars and Blood Angels to a lesser extent practiced, was grounding their psychic power in a tradition and their world
Fenris does have a world spirit and the Rune Priests do channel it
The Tsons meanwhile were literally having daemons do their laundry
hallow plover
Leaked footage of Russ when he comes back
opaque coyote
Fenris does have a world spirit and the Rune Priests do channel it
At the same time, at least admit
"yes it is psychic power,x
Instead of saying it is something else
dusk patrol
Sure, but that’s not really the issue, the issue was the Tsons going so hilariously far
opaque coyote
Sure, but that’s not really the issue, the issue was the Tsons going so hilariou...
Also true
dusk patrol
Magnus won Nikea for the people against the Librarius
Because he was such a jackass he couldn’t see how insane, arrogant and dangerous he sounded
Sanguinius and the White Scars Stormseers arguments were basically “this is a useful tool we should be careful with”
And then Magnus comes up and says “Actually I’m so good I can do what I want and we should be using it more and crazier”
soft thunder
> Russ did not like the spear. He did not like spears as a weapon in general. He...
that axe and sword paragraph is the most viking thing I've read today lol
vikings did use spears too tho
opaque coyote
Because he was such a jackass he couldn’t see how insane, arrogant and dangerous...
Magnus has a wisdom score of 0
If he was a DnD character
celest dome
Tbh I see a 3rd path for returning Russ.
Hunter Russ, seeking a hunting goddess (Many mythos of Goddess with packs of wolves)
dusk patrol
Imo they’ll probably of some kinda Odin/Rune Priest Russ
tough haven
Tbh I see a 3rd path for returning Russ.
Hunter Russ, seeking a hunting goddess ...
Big woman??!
dusk patrol
Older and slower but psychically powerful
opaque coyote
Tbh I see a 3rd path for returning Russ.
Hunter Russ, seeking a hunting goddess ...
..imagine him worshipping Isha somehow
dusk patrol
The loyalists don’t really have a psyker dude rn
opaque coyote
tough haven
Imo they’ll probably of some kinda Odin/Rune Priest Russ
I’d actually love that
tough haven
The loyalists don’t really have a psyker dude rn
Because psykers are chaos and bad!!!!
dusk patrol
There would be a fun dichotomy of him and Magnus both being psyker power houses
opaque coyote
There would be a fun dichotomy of him and Magnus both being psyker power houses
Russ would make more arguments other than
Psyker bad
dusk patrol
It wasn’t about psyker bad
celest dome
Psyker aren't bad
dusk patrol
It was about the Tsons being insane
tough haven
Russ would make more arguments other than
Psyker bad
“I will burn down your house again”
dusk patrol
Basically Nikea was everyone trying to argue that you can safely have alcohol and everyone can drink it as long as we do it in safe amounts and are careful.
And then Magnus came up and said he can actually drink and drive fine and he’s able to hold his liquor and he and his sons should be allowed to do whatever they want while drunk
opaque coyote
There would be a fun dichotomy of him and Magnus both being psyker power houses
But basically it would be interesting to have Russ basically be more conservative
While Magnus is much more radical
dusk patrol
I mean that’s not hard to do lol
Magnus was always beyond radical and stupid with his powers
opaque coyote
"Hey guys maybe you should stop summoning daemons to become servants-"
"N O ."
"...okay then."
dusk patrol
The problem with A Thousand Sons is people take the Tsons are face value
And don’t read into what they’re saying
Like Magnus’s speech
Which is fucking insane and reckless but if you just take the Tsons perspective it’s inspirational and wonderful
opaque coyote
Magnus did make some good points
But in general, he drank too much Kool aid
Maybe if he drank less, he'd have a normal skin color
...imagine Magnus as the Kool Aid man
opaque coyote
Big woman??!
It would be funny if
Russ was somehow the only woman in just
What's basically a sausage fest
For no reason
Idk maybe Tzeentch screwed up Russ's genetic code on the way to yeeting them on Fenris
tough haven
Yes give me my giant furry woman
I mean, uh, third returned primarch of space marines
opaque coyote
Also fun fact.
Apparently Russ held a contest against the Emperor.
With three contests.
One was eating, which he won
tough haven
Yeeeees…I care about space marine lore
opaque coyote
One was drinking, which he won again
And the final one was fighting
The emperor knocked him out in a single punch
And he swears that the pain in his head was from the hangover
tough haven
It’s hinted at the emperor let him win the other two
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
It’s hinted at the emperor let him win the other two
Or maybe the Emps just didn't feel hungry
Or just didn't want to look like a slob
tough haven
He ate at custodes burger on the way
opaque coyote
I can imagine the Emperor like
Tying a bib around his neck
Politely cutting the steak
tough haven
Or maybe Orkbys
opaque coyote
He turns to see Russ just
Chowing down
Drinking like a mad man
He turns back and enjoys his steak
Politely taking a sip from his tankard
All the other warriors look at him with disdain
tough haven
Or maybe Orkbys
The most dangerous food chain in the galaxy
“Orkbys, we have da squigs!”
opaque coyote
Or maybe Orkbys
I HUNGER FOR BURGERRR
ORKKK BURRRGEERRR
tough haven
“Orkbys, we have da squigs!”
Or “shut your gob and eat it, ya gitz!”
On the menu are also grots and snotlings in various preparations
opaque coyote
Yes give me my giant furry woman
Wise huntress Russ
You turn to see her drinking "only a spoonful" of alcohol
tough haven
On the menu are also grots and snotlings in various preparations
And orks if you can beat your server to death and eat them
tough haven
Wise huntress Russ
B-b-b big woman…
gray umbra
Grotburger is like a mushroom based vegan burger
opaque coyote
B-b-b big woman…
Muscular
tough haven
Grotburger is like a mushroom based vegan burger
“We ain’t got no ‘cruelty free’ options ya zoggin idiot! Da cruelty is what gives it da flavor!”
gray umbra
“We ain’t got no ‘cruelty free’ options ya zoggin idiot! Da cruelty is what give...
Cruelty Smash Sauce with extra Dakka
Also Gork & Mork's is a fantastic restaurant name
tough haven
What about Orkbys
opaque coyote
Y'know due to the war of beast being a thing
(unfortunately)
I wonder if there are Ork spores in the sewers
celest dome
On Terra ?
opaque coyote
Like there are just Ork Warbands that come out to attack from the Terra sewers
celest dome
There probably is, but I don't think they'll be able to really grow 
opaque coyote
I wouldn't be surprised if Custodes have to fight Orks Everytime they go in the sewers
Like another enemy to purge on the checklist
crystal forum
Ork spores are incredibly hard to remove after all
i mean come ooooon
if orks can get a foothold on terra then they're not incredibly hard to remove, they're impossible to remove
i get subtle factions like GSC and heretics because they can hide
opaque coyote
I want a story of an honorable Grey Knight veteran sent to the Deathwatch to assist the hunt of an Alien psyker (Eldar farseer, for example), and pretends to be a Black Shield so that the existence of the Grey Knights is not revealed.
"What chapter did you hail from, brother?"
"Uhhh, I'm sorry, it's, ummm, too painful? To talk about?"
"Been there, brother, been there."
shell mason
tired af
viral halo
Jay can you ping me when things get weird in here
crystal forum
aight
tough haven
if orks can get a foothold on terra then they're not incredibly hard to remove, ...
I mean yeah, the only way to really get rid of them for sure is exterminatus the planet
I love how draconian and absolutely comically inefficient the administratum is, “oh you want your rations for the week? Get in line, the wait time is roughly 3 years”
Several people have died while waiting
opaque coyote
if orks can get a foothold on terra then they're not incredibly hard to remove, ...
Honestly I think they're kept in check similar to how the GSC are in Necromunda
Basically the planet is so shitty that the Orks are judt
Kept in check
Combine that with the daily Purges by the custodes
Although I would imagine that occasionally minor Ork raids happen on cities
Like it's a daily occurrence to get attacked by a "squad" or two of Orks
Honestly for the Orks it'd probably be heaven.
So many things to fight
snow fern
I mean terra also has gsc, so honestly, what a miserable little hole
outer wave
There probably is, but I don't think they'll be able to really grow <:Servoskull...
Did orks make it to terra?
snow fern
The War of the Beast right?
outer wave
I was thinking about that event
Because there was some diplomacy that was held by the beast himself
snow fern
I just remember weaponized moons and that was about it
and Vulkan probably being dead'
soft thunder
Because there was some diplomacy that was held by the beast himself
Pretty sure it was jsut an ork diplomatic delegate. An ork ambassador. Also the Beast was multiple orks, not just one. iirc
opaque coyote
Did orks make it to terra?
I think they managed to land
Which basically means uh
Ork spore
outer wave
Pretty sure it was jsut an ork diplomatic delegate. An ork ambassador. Also the ...
Yeah but the one that is mentioned the most is that one singular Mr Beast
opaque coyote
Pretty sure it was jsut an ork diplomatic delegate. An ork ambassador. Also the ...
I think the delegate was probably the best part of the book for the sheer ridiculousness of it
And also the juxtaposition
outer wave
I think they managed to land
Lets hope none of them died or farted while on the ground
opaque coyote
Lets hope none of them died or farted while on the ground
They're Orks
They 100% did
snow fern
doesn't their very breath unleash spores?
soft thunder
Ya that ork delegate scene and the human cattle scene are the only things I really remember specifically from that book
outer wave
Probably to the least extent but yes
opaque coyote
Ya that ork delegate scene and the human cattle scene are the only things I real...
Yeah besides those scenes which were quite cool
The rest was
Bad
hallow plover
Did orks make it to terra?
The real question is who didn't make it to terra
arctic talon
Necrons
snow fern
Necrons? Yet
snow fern
unless the Void Dragon fought Big E on Terra
hallow plover
T'au for sure
opaque coyote
I guess a few individual crons
Trazyn did have a Thunder Warrior in his collection in that one Hammer and Bolter episode
So he probably has visited the place but like you said
No Necron presence ever really went there
Trazyn probably went there for a trip to collect some things tbh
Probably to catalogue the Terra war
hallow plover
Let's say the solar system then
opaque coyote
Same as Terra tbh
Chaos and Orks are the only one that arrived
And also GSC.
opaque coyote
Did Deldar even appear in Terra?
hallow plover
Yes
celest dome
Pretty sure it was jsut an ork diplomatic delegate. An ork ambassador. Also the ...
There was a titular Beast Ork
After his death multiple Orks like it were sighted
hallow plover
They were invited
opaque coyote
They were invited
Oh yeah to fix the throne
hallow plover
(In secret)
opaque coyote
Only for them to be like
hallow plover
It worked out well 🙂
opaque coyote
"bro what the fuck is this"
Like even for the Deldar the golden throne was a clusterfuck
snow fern
Didn't harrlequins end up in the Golden Palace
hallow plover
But it was a ploy
hallow plover
They just wanted to complete their dark throne || and find some of the Emperor's DNA to sit a braindead clone on it ||
opaque coyote
They just wanted to complete their dark throne || and find some of the Emperor's...
Unfortunately like I said
They did not know what the fuck was going on inside there lmao
The golden throne is just a clusterfuck of multiple species tech
hallow plover
They were pretty desperate lol
opaque coyote
From Xenos, DAoT, etc.
hallow plover
That warp tear in Commoragh isn't very nice
outer wave
So do the other chaos god cults have a similar written language like we see in Darktide, or are they using the same language?
hallow plover
Didn't harrlequins end up in the Golden Palace
They did and they killed tons of custodes. Accuracy of the event is debatable
arctic talon
Didn't harrlequins end up in the Golden Palace
A surprising amount
arctic talon
They did and they killed tons of custodes. Accuracy of the event is debatable
It was old custodes lore tbf
It would make sense sorta
Still nowadays
But it’s still written like shit
celest dome
Harlequin can be the run the mill ones or the top most levels, which would be able to play with Custodes
arctic talon
a death jester and shadow seer
do a lot of the killing
Its still written like shit
rose thorn
hey does anyoen have good examples of like, the funny sympathetic criminal character archetype
arctic talon
arctic talon
hey does anyoen have good examples of like, the funny sympathetic criminal chara...
half the fucking characters in warhammer crime tbh
rose thorn
half the fucking characters in warhammer crime tbh
warhammer crime?
rose thorn
i never heard of it i gotta check it out
rose thorn
okay i will
they are all 40k books damn, but thats not bad
oh i have the conspiracy
celest dome
There is a House in Necromunda where the fighters look like Clown
rose thorn
yee
celest dome
Their focus is hunting descendent of the past exiled of their house
rose thorn
READ BLOODLINES I BEG
but yeah im planning to write my lord commander's backstory for my custom stormcast eternal storm host. TLDR they are chosen if they died laughing, so alot of them are use to be criminals with a sense of humor
they are great at fighing death since, they laugh at it
also they are a riff on the only good space wolves character
tough haven
READ BLOODLINES I BEG
Ah damn, mothtrove is gone and replaced by a fuckin Krieger rickroll, now where will I get my 40k books? I was just gonna read the other 40k crime books
young pecan
What the fuck are these things
young pecan
They look like demon babies
I guess you gotta get them from somewhere when prisoner imports are low 
storm jungle
Yeah thats the idea
cherubs IRL are the angelic babies you see on religious imagery
celest dome
They're used in similar ways as the Admech use Servo Skulls
green loom
Baby servitors
arctic talon
What the fuck are these things
Cherubs, very fancy servitors
They cost a ton in universe
dusk patrol
Generally they’re a cloned baby of the person who commissions them so they’re super super expensive
sour hornet
rose thorn
hey how the fuck do you write a funny character
crisp heath
dead cope channel
rose thorn
dead cope channel
:D?
young pecan
hey how the fuck do you write a funny character
What kind of funny
Like cringe funny, second-hand embarassment funny, etc
rose thorn
What kind of funny
Witty asshole funny
leaden pilot
Cool Sanguinius Statue
rose thorn
Ie starlord or basically any character Crisp rat plays
viral halo
Cinnamon ring
green loom
What character trope am I
viral halo
Why can't I emote in SM2
radiant lance
THere needs to be a "get on the fucking ship" emote tbh
opaque coyote
Generally they’re a cloned baby of the person who commissions them so they’re su...
You know honestly that's ever weirder than the actual crime against humanity
"Yes I would like to pay for you to get a vat clone of myself"
"Skin my baby clone alive"
"Shove metal parts and machinery inside it"
"and then have it carry shit"
Like why would you want it to be a clone of
Yourself
At least have it be a clone of Erebus or something
Or just somebody you hate
Actually imagine some noble doing that as a prank
"Yes, I would like you to make a cherub copy of my friend's daughter and then send it to their house.
Trust me it would be really funny."
10 minutes later
Screams of horror as noble snickers in the background
wintry scarab
God damn SM2 has made me realize how fucking much i hate the god damned mark 10 space marine armour. Especially the maximus helmets. Its gotten to the point where i think the reiver helmets look better. And i used to think those looked goofy as hell.
opaque coyote
God damn SM2 has made me realize how fucking much i hate the god damned mark 10 ...
I actually think the MKX armor looks great
It's just that the helmets are kinda iffy
crisp heath
Like why would you want it to be a clone of
tbh i kinda get it :DDDD i'd have a cherub servitor irl if it were possible and if they werent as ugly as the 40k ones
viral halo
God damn SM2 has made me realize how fucking much i hate the god damned mark 10 ...
I don't know what Shin megami Tensei has to do with warhammer but to each his own king
crisp heath
i can´t really explain why though
opaque coyote
God damn SM2 has made me realize how fucking much i hate the god damned mark 10 ...
Also unfortunately the SM2 customization does not allow you to change helmets
wintry scarab
I actually think the MKX armor looks great
It's just that the helmets are kinda...
Thats the main issue. I think the armour itself could use a bit more variety but those god damn maximus helmets. JUST GIVE US SOMETHING ELSE DAMN YOU!
opaque coyote
Despite the fact that canonically, Primaris actually do sometimes use older mark parts
Like sometimes they change helmets
Or add some features from older marks
green loom
It's almost definitely going to be DLC
opaque coyote
That would potentially look really cool and add bonuses and added customization.
So of course, GW didn't allow them to make it.
Literally they didn't allow them to implement it
wintry scarab
Despite the fact that canonically, Primaris actually do sometimes use older mark...
Yeah i know. It makes perfect sense for older marines to want to rock older armour but we just dont see it and i hate it 😦
opaque coyote
They gotta shove Primaris in our faces.
green loom
GW probably approved it, Sabre/Focus are likely saving it for DLC and $$$
wintry scarab
GW probably approved it, Sabre/Focus are likely saving it for DLC and $$$
I mean ill give my life for a retro armour pack. (as long as its below like $20. If its above im raging on the internet.)
wintry scarab
I mean ill give my life for a retro armour pack. (as long as its below like $20....
God, maybe not £20. Thats a lot. like 10
opaque coyote
I will [POLITELY HAVE TEA WITH THEM]
opaque coyote
I mean ill give my life for a retro armour pack. (as long as its below like $20....
Free ideally
$10 at most
Any more and I will refuse
wintry scarab
Free ideally
Well yeah, but thats obviously out of the picture in the year 2024
opaque coyote
I do not care about customization anywags
wintry scarab
I do not care about customization anywags
I live for it.
opaque coyote
Well yeah, but thats obviously out of the picture in the year 2024
The only time I have ever bought a skin was for Genshin Impact
Listen that witch skin for Klee looked really cute. She truly is a witch like her mother
Anyways cuteness stealing my wallet aside
I think I bought the Imperial Edition for Darktide
wintry scarab
The only time I have ever bought a skin was for Genshin Impact
Listen that witc...
You play what?! You just admitted to being a criminal on the internet. Police are on their way.
opaque coyote
I hate how Aquilias cannot be gotten for free
In a paid game
opaque coyote
You play what?! You just admitted to being a criminal on the internet. Police ar...
Welp, at least it isn't League of Legends
wintry scarab
I have done my ranting about darktide mtx and i hate it. Literally kills so much of the fun for me and the fact that its getting worse just makes me not want to play even more.
opaque coyote
Jokes aside, ironically Genshin is the most tame out of the Gachas.
wintry scarab
Welp, at least it isn't League of Legends
Amen brother. Amen
opaque coyote
Compared to Nikke
Which literally has your characters shake their ass
Everytime they shoot their gun
wintry scarab
I cant even comprehend that sort of game. I just dont compute. Not only is it just gambling but its also the most depraved shit ive ever seen.
opaque coyote
This caused
Severe tonal whiplash when I tried it out for 10 minutes.
The first 10 minutes was basically having aliens literally mind control somebody to try and kill you
And you're forced to execute them
As they plead to be free from their pain
...
And then I went to the pull feature and got a maid cat girl
opaque coyote
I cant even comprehend that sort of game. I just dont compute. Not only is it ju...
It's like Warhammer 40k ironically enough. At least attraction wise.
Basically
Character collector first
Lore and story second
You like the men/women and play them.
It's basically the same reason people collect things like toys
Or rocks
green loom
opaque coyote
It's just that there happens to be a game attached to it.
Sometimes it's actually good
Sometimes it's bad.
tough haven
I love my rocks!!!!
tough haven
I love my rocks!!!!
My rocks are cooler than yours!!!
opaque coyote
I love my rocks!!!!
tough haven
https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-ogryn-rock-gif-1037448851342550935...
Chad
opaque coyote
You ever think there's an Ogyrn out there with an actual rock collection
Like their hobby is just collecting interesting rocks
tough haven
You ever think there's an Ogyrn out there with an actual rock collection
Every ogryn
green loom
there are now kids who only know primaris and no firstborn
It's fun pestering space marine fans
wintry scarab
there are now kids who only know primaris and no firstborn
Ive only known about 40k since watching astartes (whenever that came out) so im basically one of those. But even i see firstborn armour and i think they look way cooler than like 70% of the primaris stuff.
opaque coyote
Every ogryn
Some like throwing boxes tho
tough haven
Some like throwing boxes tho
Take a guess what’s in the box?
green loom
I have a love-hate relationship with all space marine armour
viral halo
I like primaris, I just wish they had like drip
green loom
On the one hand, all kinds neat
On the other, they're kinda badly designed
wintry scarab
Again. I just hate how all primaris basically wear the same stuff. I just want old armour primarisified. if that makes sense. Especially the helmets.
green loom
They do do that on some characters tbf
wintry scarab
They do do that on some characters tbf
The sternguard comes with the first and im guessing last mk7 primaris helmet. And im guessing thats the best we are getting.
opaque coyote
Ive only known about 40k since watching astartes (whenever that came out) so im ...
There are a lot of Power Armor variations.
Personal favorite is the MK3 and MK6
green loom
I mean we'll probably get all the marks for Age of Darkness tbh
opaque coyote
MK3 armor (Black shield and Iron hands)
outer wave
Why does he have cannonballs in his pauldron?
wintry scarab
There are a lot of Power Armor variations.
Personal favorite is the MK3 and MK6
I feel like we have had this conversation before lol. Mine are mk7/8 mk 5
green loom
Why does he have cannonballs in his pauldron?
Emergency ammunition
outer wave
Oooh good answer
green loom
He plucks then out and throws his balls at you
opaque coyote
There is also a Variant of Mark X that I actually like.
The Phobos Pattern.
Essentially it's basically a streamlined version for scouting/stealth.
But has less protection
storm jungle
The reaver units are stupid in general
green loom
Phobos grew on me pretty hard
viral halo
they're cool
opaque coyote
I feel like we have had this conversation before lol. Mine are mk7/8 mk 5
We definitely did but Power Armor good
wintry scarab
There is also a Variant of Mark X that I actually like.
The Phobos Pattern.
Es...
My phobos opinion has gone from loving it to hating it to liking it. I think phobos is pretty cool now.
opaque coyote
green loom
TBF scouts are also still around tbh
storm jungle
its not about being around
its literally just:
"He does exactly what i do"
then again most primaris units are very dumb so lol
"heres this unit whos entire job is to use assault rifles"
the fact that they try to explain this in books is so bad
green loom
"heres this unit whos entire job is to use assault rifles"
"Belisarian bolt rifles, for. Everyone!"
storm jungle
green loom
Ultramar postal service
opaque coyote
Why does he have cannonballs in his pauldron?
The nerd answer is that these are Molecular Bonding Studs. Adding another ablative layer of armor at the cost of power.
The true answer is that like Ederius said.
Extra ammunition
green loom
I can't believe the studs are bonding
tough haven
"heres this unit whos entire job is to use assault rifles"
Eldar sounding ass
wintry scarab
Imo the old small bolters were goted. Really dislike how normal marines have these rifle looking ones now. Especially as all melta, plasma, bolt, volkite and las have the same look to them. dont like it 😦
outer wave
The nerd answer is that these are Molecular Bonding Studs. Adding another ablati...
At the cost of power
I didnt know space marines threw these things at people or used them as conventional weapons
crystal forum
all space marine weapons have the same style coding now
a little cog on top
i hate it
i have said many times why it seems they've done this
wintry scarab
Yup. I very much hate it
green loom
a little cog on top
I was going to make a foxhole reference
wintry scarab
Ive said this before but the cog is just so dumb. Why would a bolter and plasma gun share the same mechanism. I hate it so 😦
crystal forum
the cog is supposed to indicate variants
opaque coyote
Imo the old small bolters were goted. Really dislike how normal marines have the...
I like the rifle bolters
Wish they had a stock to fuck with people more tho
It would be funny
crisp heath
Man I just do not vibe with bulwark in space marine 2
opaque coyote
Actually stock bolters would probably be useful for non super soldiers that wear PA
Like maybe Sisters of Battle of Inquistors
crisp heath
Sucks cause they look so cool but I just can not get this parry and block thing down
opaque coyote
Actually I kinda want to make a comic where a Reject like
Adds a stock to their bolter
Hadron sees it
Immediately goes nuts
And tries to execute them
wintry scarab
everybody who isn't a primaris still uses old school bolters
I just wish GW would do stuff like some models have old bolters and some have the new ones. Would add so much character. Same with armour.
opaque coyote
"TECH HERESY. TECH HERESY!!"
opaque coyote
I just wish GW would do stuff like some models have old bolters and some have th...
But that would be cool, creative, and worth your money
Clearly things GW don't want
crystal forum
heavy bolt rifles have stocks
opaque coyote
heavy bolt rifles have stocks
I actually fuck with that tbh
wintry scarab
But that would be cool, creative, and worth your money
Yeah, forgot about that. If it isnt hurting the customer in some way, gw will not do it.
green loom
You're right we should give space marines stockings
opaque coyote
You're right we should give space marines stockings
ECs moment
Wait Iron Hands often fiddle with tech
crystal forum
i also noticed that the heavy bolt rifle is one of the only guns in SM2 that gets different variant looks from multiplayer upgrade
so it gets the stalker magazine and full auto magazine
wintry scarab
Sucks cause they look so cool but I just can not get this parry and block thing ...
Thats the second class im trying to play and i also am having a hard time. Ill just keep trying till i get used to it.
crystal forum
I just wish GW would do stuff like some models have old bolters and some have th...
sternguard models have older armour types. i have one with a mark 7 helmet
crisp heath
Game will be dead by then
wintry scarab
i also noticed that the heavy bolt rifle is one of the only guns in SM2 that get...
You have the bolt rifle with a granade launcher and the smg old style bolter gets scopes and becomes semiauto.
green loom
Game will be dead by then
It's already dead
crisp heath
lol
green loom
Too woke you see
crystal forum
it's only a matter of time until they add older armours to SM2
crisp heath
What was the woke thing?
wintry scarab
sternguard models have older armour types. i have one with a mark 7 helmet
Yup. Thats why i bought the box lol. Anything for a new mk7/8 helmet. And the corvus one is nice as well.
green loom
Didn't you see Titus' squadmates??? So woke smh
crystal forum
ed stop looking at twitter
these shitheads magically disappear if you dont look at them
green loom
The DEI machine turned Acheran Scottish, very woke
opaque coyote
Before I take a nap.
Can a Sister of Battle be part of say
The Order Hospitaler while also being part of the Order of the Blood Rose?
How do Sister of Battle orders work?
wintry scarab
Also i think out of all the primaris guns, i think i like the bolt pistol the most. Looks nice. I mean this is the heavy one but the normal one looks good too.
crystal forum
Also i think out of all the primaris guns, i think i like the bolt pistol the mo...
that's a heavy bolt pistol 
oh
i should read
wintry scarab
that's a heavy bolt pistol <:nerd:992303050532323409>
I said that 🤓
crystal forum
idk why we never see regular people using heavy bolt pistols
they could act like very heavy submachineguns
opaque coyote
idk why we never see regular people using heavy bolt pistols
Probably because the normal bolt Pistol can be used as a rifle honestly
Carbine
Whatever
For regular people at least
opaque coyote
So having a Heavy Bolter Pistol would be too much
crystal forum
it's even in the famous swedish game darktide
wintry scarab
Also i think out of all the primaris guns, i think i like the bolt pistol the mo...
Also how the hell is a "heavy" bolt pistol different than a normal one? It just has a longer barrel or something?
opaque coyote
True
But at the same time a regular bolt Pistol is unwieldy already
crystal forum
Also how the hell is a "heavy" bolt pistol different than a normal one? It just ...
i only see assault intercessors use them
opaque coyote
Imagine firing a heavy one
green loom
Before I take a nap.
Can a Sister of Battle be part of say
The Order Hospitale...
I think they just have their own orders
opaque coyote
I think they just have their own orders
So it's separate
green loom
Believe so
opaque coyote
Not like a weird suborder thing or whatever
wintry scarab
i only see assault intercessors use them
And chaplains 🤓 (i think)
opaque coyote
Okay good
crystal forum
And chaplains 🤓 (i think)
i think those are special. my apothicary biologis has a weird one
i honestly prefer the look of the heavy bolt pistol
opaque coyote
Also how the hell is a "heavy" bolt pistol different than a normal one? It just ...
It's bigger and probably has more kick behind it
It's like the Desert Eagle
Of a Desert Eagle
No
crystal forum
did they even exist pre primaris
wintry scarab
did they even exist pre primaris
Dont think so
opaque coyote
And that's basically the comparison between the Heavy Bolter Pistol and Bolter Pistol
Anyways time to nap
🛌🏻
crystal forum
yeah this is called an absolvor
opaque coyote
Honk mimimi
opaque coyote
yeah this is called an absolvor
Damn that looks sick
crystal forum
not heavy
opaque coyote
Anyways back to honk mimimi
crystal forum
lexicanum has no information on what makes it heavy
green loom
It's stats are better or something
crystal forum
it's definitely just a souped up bolt pistol in tabletop
so assault intercessors arent stuck with shit ranged
wintry scarab
yeah this is called an absolvor
Primaris haters: That looks terrible (literally the fucking coolest thing ever)
crystal forum
im not a fan of chaplains in general
crystal forum
too much calcium
wintry scarab
I think they look sick. Especially with the lore behind them. This new one is cool as hell as well.
crystal forum
i like when they actually care about their battle brothers
the one in SM2 is way too preachy
wintry scarab
Im so glad that terminators and scouts are just the old ones. I was so scared they would make them "primaris"
crystal forum
we know why
arctic talon
tbh
crystal forum
but he's a shit chaplain
arctic talon
I think there's some Primaris stuff that looks great
and some thats ehhhh
its a mixed bag for me
but thats like most mini ranges lol
arctic talon
but he's a shit chaplain
he's like a very mediocre one
crystal forum
i love gravis stuff
crystal forum
he's like a very mediocre one
chaplains shouldn't just be preachers
all he does is do speeches and not even good ones
wintry scarab
its a mixed bag for me
Its just strange how it can go from looking sick as hell to
arctic talon
Ask the mini designers lol
I actually don't hate desolaters
with the fat missile
the tiny ones suck
The single fat fuck missile == good
crystal forum
fucking programmer
wintry scarab
i love gravis stuff
I dont like gravis 😦 (probably just because they have that god awful maximus helmet. Its god damn everywhere and i hate it.)
crystal forum
im not a fan of maximus either
crystal forum
looks like a paintball mask
crystal forum
i love gravis helmet tho
arctic talon
my favorite armor MKs are like MKX, MKIV and MKVII
I'm not sure why I like MKX so much
but I really like MKIV's helmet
crystal forum
MKII needs a comeback
arctic talon
and how "bare" it is
crystal forum
come on GW
crystal forum
i like how shit it looks
wintry scarab
I think the gravis half masks looks sick tho
wintry scarab
I prefer MKV
I love
arctic talon
sort of
I like MKV when people go out of their way
to make it even more fucked
I wish GW would give us MKV styled MKX power armor
like
just studs everywhere
crystal forum
MK5 looks like MK7 stung by bees
arctic talon
mismashed pieces
the helmet is my least favorite part
of MKV
everything else is nice
wintry scarab
Ive said this before but mk5 just has that "im losing my fucking mind and ill rip you in twine" vibe to it. The marine is not fucking around.
crystal forum
some variety would be nice for the armour that's supposed to be non standard
arctic talon
This salamander is afraid of his head being blown off
and you know what I can't really blame him after Istvaan lol
crystal forum
there's this really fucking dumb lore that MK2 helmets cant turn
yet it's never followed thankfully
barren prawn
Sorry i dont wanna change topics buut apparently we can be sanctioned
arctic talon
Its been retcon'd for fucking years since they redesigned it
arctic talon
Sorry i dont wanna change topics buut apparently we can be sanctioned
huh
barren prawn
i thought non of the psykers here have been to terra
arctic talon
I mean
barren prawn
but so it seems you can pick an option to have been on the black ships
barren prawn
ye
they also never imply having been to terra
but wouldnt having been on the black ships mean they were taken to terra like all the psykers?
barren prawn
with that many nulls around?
arctic talon
well
barren prawn
maybe it crashed someone
green loom
Sometimes the nulls aren't enough
crystal forum
im not saying the psyker caused the escape
arctic talon
Nulls can be overwhelmed
barren prawn
ye
arctic talon
especially with accidents
green loom
And there's not that many super powerful ones/sisters of silence
crystal forum
that does make me think
green loom
Chaos grabs one properly and it spreads they might not be enough
barren prawn
DO NOT
crystal forum
what if you just had a hundred nulls
barren prawn
stop thinking about how sisters of silence reproduce
crystal forum
what
arctic talon
Yeah
crystal forum
i wonder if you can measure warp presence like eletromagnetic waves
and nulls are a reverse polarity
cancelling out
green loom
cancelling out
I don't know what that means
snow fern
magnets
barren prawn
if you get a null and a psyker that have very similar strength levels they dont appear in the warp
crystal forum
maybe anti psyker cages are just like faraday cages
snow fern
1 + -1 = 0
barren prawn
the null would be like a dark spot and the psyker a light spot if theyre the same level you wont see anything
green loom
Freaking magnets
arctic talon
this minotaur has a mural on his chest plate
snow fern
if you have two opposite forces of the same strength pushing against each other, no movement will occur, this also exists in other examples like ph, have a base and acid of the same strength and they neautralize each other
arctic talon
yeah
snow fern
If a psyker is a beacon in the warp, and a null is a darkness in the warp, together they are effectively invisible
barren prawn
after that they switched to the normal ones
crystal forum
the beaked helmets are horus heresy era right?
yes
arctic talon
They were put into production
wintry scarab
this minotaur has a mural on his chest plate
Another primaris thing i dislike. All primaris basically have the same chest ornaments besides like black templars and characters.
barren prawn
jesus
crystal forum
after that they switched to the normal ones
not ravens
arctic talon
Another primaris thing i dislike. All primaris basically have the same chest orn...
tbh this is the case for tactical marines as well
barren prawn
so now when i read horus heresy i have to imagine them all beaked
crystal forum
yes
arctic talon
Also there's no minis like this either
barren prawn
FUCK
arctic talon
I mean
crystal forum
no actually
arctic talon
not really
crystal forum
not all were beaked
arctic talon
in the Heresy they just used
whatever the fuck they could get
MKVI was most common in the Iron Warriors, Salamanders and Raven Guard
crystal forum
in fact beakies were more loyalist at the start of the heresy
arctic talon
since they got big shipments to test
green loom
Yeah heresy era had like, widespread use of mk2-6 lol
barren prawn
MKVI was most common in the Iron Warriors, Salamanders and Raven Guard
mark 6 is beak or no?
crystal forum
MK6 is supposedly more agile and stealthy
barren prawn
ew
arctic talon
because GW chose that as the main armor MK
wintry scarab
~~tbh this is the case for tactical marines as well~~
The old ones? Nah, i just googled it and they have different armour and ornaments. Unless im looking at the wrong stuff.
snow fern
Salamanders were beakies? Huh, don't think I'd ever seen a beakie salamander
snow fern
I don't play HH so yah
barren prawn
im still at book 4
arctic talon
The old ones? Nah, i just googled it and they have different armour and ornament...
its mostly the aquilla
primaris also have differentiation
in the symbol as well
its an aquilla, a skull or like
barren prawn
bruh
crystal forum
i dont like the aquila on the chestplate
barren prawn
i refuse to believe the beak is real
im just gonna imagine them all with the breather
wintry scarab
its mostly the aquilla
Top right one has a completely different torso ornament. With like the classic straps.
crystal forum
I think forgeworld artists can do whatever the fuck they want
too bad they dont exist anymore
HA
arctic talon
MKVI wasn't widespread until late heresy
most common armor MKs were II and IV
also V I guess
green loom
Mk4 sweep
arctic talon
But 5 isn't a proper armor MK
so it doesn't count
MKIV is like objectively the best armor produced during the heresy lore wise
crystal forum
MK4 is supposed to be the most advanced until 6
green loom
MKIV is like objectively the best armor produced during the heresy lore wise
Red Scorpions dancing rn
arctic talon
6 is a specalized MK like 3
barren prawn
which marks can still be made reliably post heresy?
crystal forum
primaris
barren prawn
damn i need to read up on my marks 😭
arctic talon
MKVII was like MKIV but better
the only downside to MKVII was it literally did not exist until the end of the heresy lol
crystal forum
space marine armour is literally one of the only aspects of imperial tech that actually evolved
green loom
Does artificer armour count as a specific mark
viral halo
horus more like snorus honk shoo
green loom
Cus when you see older marks on certain characters it can just be artificer gear and not really that mk
viral halo
mk IV is the coolest
crystal forum
BEGONE siggy to the DEPTHS of SIGMAR's cinnamon ring
green loom
horus more like snorus honk shoo
Warsmith Honk Shoo?????
viral halo
BEGONE siggy to the DEPTHS of SIGMAR's cinnamon ring
<:LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO:934120...
Warhammer poops be like "pushed a fibersword out of my cinnamonus ring"
arctic talon
Except it fucking sucks to wear 3
And you’re slower in it
It’s basically min maxxed for you to eat shit from the front
wintry scarab
Idk my roman numerals so ive got to keep googling this shit to keep up with what you guys are talking about lol
arctic talon
I’ll stop using Roman numerals
viral halo
we usually speak in Aramaic but took the night off since it's tuesday
crystal forum
thanks nerd
green loom
I'll use Hungarian numbers
crystal forum
we dont respect rome in this establishment
arctic talon
It’s quieter
barren prawn
I'll use Hungarian numbers
egy
arctic talon
Faster
viral halo
MK6 is less armored then 4
than*
arctic talon
Runs colder
green loom
Cetri
crystal forum
harder better faster
wintry scarab
I'll use Hungarian numbers
Thanks! Thatll clear things up
barren prawn
NEGY
arctic talon
MK7 has the sensor package from 6 and is about as armored as 3
green loom
Funf
barren prawn
hey man hungarian numbers work fine for me
barren prawn
nemet szomok is
green loom
Devet
crystal forum
elitewolf about to explain the 50 rites of maintenance on the MK4
arctic talon
That’s why you see marines in Mk7 or X with beanies
green loom
Piec
viral halo
it's no MK VIII
green loom
elitewolf about to explain the 50 rites of maintenance on the MK4
Elite isn't the red Scorpions guy so no
arctic talon
It’s also more modular then older armor MKs
viral halo
Red Scorpions are based as fuck
arctic talon
Which is an improvement I guess
viral halo
Mark V looks sick aesthetically
arctic talon
Also it runs slightly less hot then 7
green loom
Mark V looks sick aesthetically
Mark 5 isn't even a mark it's just an aesthetic
arctic talon
Mark 5 isn't even a mark it's just an aesthetic
Piece of crap armor
green loom
Like Tyberos' mark 5 terminator armour 
wintry scarab
I have no clue what the red scorpions are but i know they look sick as fuck.
arctic talon
They’re the racists
viral halo
They're racist doctors
arctic talon
They’re literally obesessed with genetic purity
green loom
They're Richtofen
wintry scarab
They’re the racists
Oh hell yeah!
viral halo
One of the best paint schemes in muhreen history
green loom
The bar is on the floor ngl
viral halo
that's crazy
there's some dope as hell schemes
praetors of orpheus
Howling griffons
arctic talon
Average red scorpion apothecary
viral halo
Novamarines
arctic talon
You know it’s bad when even the black Templars
crystal forum
Novamarines
double paint schemes ew
arctic talon
Think you’re fucking weirdos about genetic purity and shit
viral halo
double paint schemes ew
quartered paint schemes rock
you're crazy
they should put you in a straight jacket
wintry scarab
Oh, i have a racist meme i made. Never showed it to anyone but i still giggle at it once in a while. Actually its not really racist just has a salute in it. Am i allowed to post that here?
arctic talon
Idk
green loom
Prolly not
wintry scarab
nvm
viral halo
Oh, i have a racist meme i made. Never showed it to anyone but i still giggle at...
I understood the meme
Rare gypsy crusader post
wintry scarab
bros in jail now iirc
viral halo
I have spiderman 2099 issue #1 by my desk in my office
green loom
They put me in a room, a rubber room with rats
viral halo
he got out
green loom
And rats make me crazy
wintry scarab
he got out
That makes it sound like they couldnt contain him
green loom
Frowned nodding disapprovingly
arctic talon
I think I’d rather die then paint the scheme irl
crystal forum
im sure there's some really easy way
like just put cardboard in front
compared to lamenrers
like i cant even draw a straight line how am i supposed to PAINT one
wintry scarab
I know that this isnt a rare take but from what ive seen, lamentors look and are really cool. Just really sad guys.
arctic talon
They’re kind of stupid as well ngl
crystal forum
punished groups that keep trying to do good despite being hated is not my favorite trope
titus
like mf STOP TRYING TO PLEASE THEM
viral halo
I like the lamenters dread in the deathwatch
Being a Lamenter just kinda fucking sucks ngl
arctic talon
It doesn’t help their chapter master is kind of an idiot
He stuck with Huron to the fucking end
And he wasn’t a good strategist either
crystal forum
i like how SM chapters are so superhuman and beyond criticism that they'll use the most dogshit doctrines and still win
tough haven
Bro I just got space marine 2 and its blackscreened twice and frozen multiple times and I havent even gotten past the fucking first 5 seconds of the intro
awesome 60 dollar game man
crystal forum
update drivers
tough haven
update drivers
like graphics drivers?
crystal forum
yes
viral halo
Bro I just got space marine 2 and its blackscreened twice and frozen multiple ti...
Computer specs? I can help
I’m on the staff of the r/warhammer discord and have been troubleshooting for all the newbies all day
tough haven
Games should just work when I buy them, I shouldnt have to perform the rite of rekindling and efficient cogitation anytime I want to play a game, even if that would be on brand for 40k games
crystal forum
you have 2000 pings
viral halo
is this true
Had to crop out admin shit
crystal forum
yes i saw
wintry scarab
Games should just work when I buy them, I shouldnt have to perform the rite of r...
Kind of an L take. Thats what consoles are for. With PC you put in the work and get a better result.
crystal forum
i saw 2000 pings
viral halo
But yea I’ve been a “veteran” in there for a while