40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

same

[viral halo]

that's bc animators are not allowed to depict things which cannot be sold anymore

it drives me fucking insane

[storm jungle]

BUT

[arctic talon]

They don’t sell those minis anymore

[crystal forum]

they dont depict your dick anymore

[hallow plover]

It's always amazing chaos goonies have been there for like 10 mins they have the time to chaosify everything

[crystal forum]

because it doesnt sell

[arctic talon]

I think the new cultists fit like

[crystal forum]

snap

[arctic talon]

Thousand sons more

Tbh

[viral halo]

Fact check me? How about I fact check your nuts with my hammer

[arctic talon]

The old ones are cool though

[radiant lance]

THe first reason why you leave the Imperium is because you wanted to be more efficient

[arctic talon]

The thousand sons aren’t using the bolt rifles and shit though

Inferno bolters are magical

[storm jungle]

I do love how like

[arctic talon]

Thousand sons guns aren’t normal

[storm jungle]

the game actually shows how dangerous thousand sons actually are

lmfao

[arctic talon]

That shit violates laws of reality

[crystal forum]

GW wont primaris chaos marines which is fine by me

[viral halo]

Rubric marine is what happens when you keep hitting the vape

all is dust

[arctic talon]

Inferno bolters literally ignore armor

Sometimes

[crystal forum]

*armour

[arctic talon]

I’m not British

[hallow plover]

We're lucky that most of them are dust puppets

[crystal forum]

it looks like love in french

[hallow plover]

only a few psykers left

[crystal forum]

i find it cute

[arctic talon]

Yeah if the thousand sons were like

[storm jungle]

You say that like it makes it any less hard

[arctic talon]

Still fleshy

[storm jungle]

💀

[arctic talon]

They’d be more dangerous

[storm jungle]

you say that

[arctic talon]

Mfw the thousand son aimbot snipers

Live on

[storm jungle]

flamer rubric

does AOE

💀

[crystal forum]

i like the thousand son thunderhammer kill animation

WHACK

[hallow plover]

DONT

remind

me

[arctic talon]

Ao3?

[storm jungle]

KEK

[arctic talon]

You say?

[storm jungle]

NO

[arctic talon]

LOL

[crystal forum]

amon

[storm jungle]

hold up

i gotta google

[hallow plover]

Just parry the fire, Dilara

[arctic talon]

But yeah the thousand sons would prolly be a lot more threatening

With their like

Fleshy boys

They’re stuck with rubrics now

Rubrics can’t be snipers

[crystal forum]

no they have to be cannon fodder for titus

[arctic talon]

Rubrics can actually drive vehicles

They’re just not good at it

[hallow plover]

Do they need vehicles?

They can litterally teleport

[crystal forum]

they're trying their best

[arctic talon]

Firepower is firepower

[fallen plaza]

Thousand sons were probably the most powerful legion purely strength wise pre dust

[hallow plover]

and ride sweet Tzeentch disks

[arctic talon]

A predator is a big tank

[crystal forum]

there's thousand sons rhinos in the game

[arctic talon]

With a big gun

[crystal forum]

i noticed them

[arctic talon]

Sometimes a doombolt won’t do the job

[crystal forum]

i should have posted them

[arctic talon]

My lord

[storm jungle]

very weak numbers

[arctic talon]

That’s more then I was expecting

[fallen plaza]

Didn't a tsons squad solo a knight house?

[storm jungle]

Uh idk

magic

[arctic talon]

Maybe?

I could see it

[fallen plaza]

I recall they did

They are insane

[crystal forum]

are they that good

[arctic talon]

More so

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[arctic talon]

Psyker powers

And also they’re good

[crystal forum]

titus shits on them

[arctic talon]

They’re really good

[storm jungle]

yeah because game

[arctic talon]

They’re rubrics now

[storm jungle]

in relaity titus would die like

instantly

lol

[arctic talon]

Mfw

Inferno bolter

[crystal forum]

game is canon

[arctic talon]

Death

[storm jungle]

canon doesnt matter

[crystal forum]

this is lore now

[storm jungle]

okay but so is darktide

[crystal forum]

darktide has no space marines so it doesnt matter

[storm jungle]

we dont kill billions of cultists every mission

[storm jungle]

you also dont have a brain

but we care about you

[viral halo]

The operations missions make my cinnamon ring pucker with fear sometimes

[crystal forum]

i left it somewhere

[viral halo]

chaos don't fuck aorund

[storm jungle]

yeah i stole it

[arctic talon]

Titus actually does survive the 1v12 warrior fight

[crystal forum]

excuse me

[arctic talon]

Source

He rolled 6’s only

[fallen plaza]

It's near your unpainted mk3s

[crystal forum]

can we circle back on what siggy said

[storm jungle]

uhhh

[fallen plaza]

Yeah fair

[storm jungle]

no

anyway lemme get some uh

thousand sons meme events

[fallen plaza]

You could have just said anus and it wouldn't be as weird

[viral halo]

Oh so I'm the fucking bad guy because I don't use a vulgar term

[crystal forum]

where did you even pull that out

[fallen plaza]

Bring in the dancing tsons dread meme

[fallen plaza]

What if Jay was called Boyliker Jay

[arctic talon]

Boy kisser

[storm jungle]

this is like

[viral halo]

Boylove Jay

[storm jungle]

one of my favorites

its so fucking funny

[viral halo]

I gotta watch the Jets game brb

[storm jungle]

the sisters legit went:

🗿

[arctic talon]

I don’t think that’s how blanks work

[crystal forum]

wait they voluntarily mute themselves?

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

Y-

Yes???

[arctic talon]

They don’t cut their tongues out, they just choose not to speak

[crystal forum]

i thought they cut their vocal cordes out

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

NO

[crystal forum]

why not

[storm jungle]

FUCKING HELL

someone shoot this guy

[crystal forum]

no im serious

[storm jungle]

I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE

because why would you cut out their vocal cords

[crystal forum]

because they'll never use them again

[viral halo]

Jets score lfg

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

why do they even silence themselves

[fallen plaza]

They don't speak because they can see the emperor in his true from allegedly

[storm jungle]

Yeah its just dumb shit. Dont think about it.

[fallen plaza]

Don't tell anyone, but he looks like me

[storm jungle]

but anyway uh

[crystal forum]

yeah i thought so

[storm jungle]

we dont know

women i guess

get back to the kitchen, etc

[fallen plaza]

Yeah

Shut up dilara

[dusk patrol]

They don’t speak because Sisters of Silence sounds cool

[crystal forum]

kasrkin lookin ass

[viral halo]

I hate when you throw zyns in and the pressure starts building

[dusk patrol]

And they can’t be call the the sisters of silence if they talk a ton

[storm jungle]

basically

its "male writers" moment

white guys strike again

[viral halo]

I'm almost finished typing my fantasy novel

[dusk patrol]

Uh huh

[viral halo]

who wants to proof read

[crisp heath]

one way to make sense of it would be if all nulls were mute. but i guess that´s not the lore

[storm jungle]

yeah pretty much

theres no reason for them to be mute

[fallen plaza]

Because sexy I guess

[storm jungle]

I mean

have you seen Blanche's artworks of them

[crystal forum]

there's no lore reason for them to be women either

[dusk patrol]

As opposed to all the very logical traditions and concepts of the Imperium

[viral halo]

Ciaphas Cain has Jurgern (greatest blank of all time) hitting the DMT cart and heatfucking all xenos

[storm jungle]

hate this one too

"omg imperium is backwards so it makes sense"

[crystal forum]

the entire faction of sisters of silence is just a weird

[storm jungle]

okay i guess the other unisex adeptas dont exist

[dusk patrol]

No it’s just a thing they do

[storm jungle]

now hes gonna bring up sororitas

[arctic talon]

There might be

There was an imperial army regiment that was mostly women who vanished

[dusk patrol]

It doesn’t have to have a good reason beyond “it’s what their order does”

[viral halo]

Yea well Gulliman is making the imperium "woke" now with 22 hour shifts instead of 24 hour shifts

[arctic talon]

After they did a really good job killing psykers

[storm jungle]

Cavill will fix it

[crystal forum]

i'd like a lore reason at least

[storm jungle]

women

[viral halo]

I hope that show never gets made

[crystal forum]

sororitas have an origin story

[viral halo]

I hope marvel offers him a jillion dollars to do something

[storm jungle]

how much did he get paid to return for superman as 1 movie again

[fallen plaza]

He did play wolverine recently

[storm jungle]

no

[crystal forum]

CGI moustache

[storm jungle]

AAA-

[arctic talon]

Suffer

I learned about this

Now so do you

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[viral halo]

I love henry cavill, I think he's a good actor. I hate to see him slowly learn to hate warhammer

[crystal forum]

can zack snyder try for once

[storm jungle]

i mean i didnt even find it funny

but good for people who did i guess

[viral halo]

did zack snyder do rebel moon

And suckerpunch

[storm jungle]

YES.

[arctic talon]

Snyder sucks

[fallen plaza]

300 was great though

[crystal forum]

he's so close to doing good movies

[viral halo]

Suckerpunch is a trip

[arctic talon]

Rebel moon is so dogshit

[fallen plaza]

I still love that movie

[storm jungle]

Snyder is an amazing moviemaker

the issue is

he should not make his own movies

[arctic talon]

Lol

He needs a leash

[storm jungle]

Watchmen and 300 stay peak because of it

^

he legit can do an amazing job

[viral halo]

Keep going I'm almost finished

I really need a fucking muzzle sometimes

[fallen plaza]

The only reason 300 was good was because he loved Franks work so much the movie was just an almost direct adaptation

[storm jungle]

Yep this

same with Watchmen

minus the awful comic ending

[crystal forum]

what about a cage you dirty boy

[storm jungle]

which he thank god changed

[viral halo]

Frank Miller is a genius except for that one wolverine variant cover series and all star batman and robin

[storm jungle]

didnt he also do uh

Batman killing Iraqis

lol

[fallen plaza]

We don't talk about all star batman

[storm jungle]

we will

[viral halo]

I have no qualms with superheroes protecting American interests in the middle east

I have qualms about batman calling robin a ret@rd

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-superman-star-man-the-b-gif-4811880512216699225

[fallen plaza]

True and America pilled

[storm jungle]

ikr

[viral halo]

this is destroying me

[hallow plover]

The Tsons can manifest around blanks?

isnt it warp shenanigans?

[storm jungle]

actually wait

you are right what the fuck

LOL

[viral halo]

If a bear shits in the woods can we hear it

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

i did

[storm jungle]

You got enhanced hearing

with those fluffy ushankas

[crystal forum]

i was the bear

[hallow plover]

You can smell it

Nurgle blesses ye

[crystal forum]

jk im not a bear i shave

[storm jungle]

[fallen plaza]

Yeah but you can only hear really good when a bear shits

[hallow plover]

||I would DIE for these colours||

Titus....

They should just fix the combat and make a RIP AND TEAR campaign with Malum Cadeo

[crystal forum]

spoiler: titus kills nurgle

also roboute shows up

[radiant lance]

Titus actually ends the entire 40k story
Every threat to the empire is gone, he becomes emperor, and the current one steps down

And rules the imperium promoting prosperity and equality for everyone

[crystal forum]

how does a corpse step down

[radiant lance]

He just does

Do not question the will of the emperor

[crystal forum]

literally

https://tenor.com/view/ight-imma-head-out-spongebob-imma-head-out-ima-head-out-gif-14902967

[opaque coyote]

I do not understand how

All Star Superman was genuinely really good

And then All Star Batman was ass

\

[fallen plaza]

Because Frank was insane at the time

[opaque coyote]

fair also two different authors

[hasty coral]

He falls over

[green loom]

Is this another "author on illicit substance" moment

[crystal forum]

this is the best possible response

[hasty coral]

That’s the one with the asshole Batman right?

Who had his character massacred

Do you think the Emperor would like the rejects?

Scratch that

How much would The Emperor love Ogryns?

[green loom]

Considering his obsession with genetic purity

I think I'd say the Ogryns deserve better

[hasty coral]

But big men that obey literally any order

Like ANY

Although the emperor needed space marines to be smart enough to be efficient in combat and operate a war

Ogryns I feel would have been a close second for Space Marines

Particularly in the “people I can control” part of the Emperor

[green loom]

Marines were cheaply bought galactic-conquest-in-a-box toosl

[hasty coral]

Exactly

Man Ogryns do deserve better

[crystal forum]

most imperials deserve better

[hasty coral]

Literal strong fantastic brute force war machines that obey any order unquestionably and enthusiastically

And can resist Chaos basically by just not having them be around only chaos cultists

They have like no egos besides being strong and serving people

Like MAYBE Khrone is a problem but beyond that

They won’t really fall to chaos independently

Besides large amounts of chaos energies obviously

But that’s more “contagion” then really “falling”

[arctic talon]

Slaanesh maybe

Overindulgence in food

[fallen plaza]

I recall it played a part in it, there was more to the story apparently

[opaque coyote]

I know there is a fan theory where that Ogyrns were originally made as a sort of

Slave race

Especially since the Bone Implant for them was found in an STC

And specifically made for Ogyrns

Not to mention there was a case of an Ogyrn becoming far more intelligent when their Bone Implant malfunctioned.

And in another story, an Ogyrn actually got shot in the head and became far more intelligent

[fallen plaza]

That reminds me of an unrelated thing

[opaque coyote]

Like the part of their brain that was suppressing their intelligence miraculously got shot off

[fallen plaza]

Jess goodwins original idea for the emperor was just that they found a corpse on a throne and they just, made up a story about how it came to be

[opaque coyote]

There are two reasons why the Emperor insists on genetic purity

1. He is a dickhead

2. The DAoT humans are known to have experimented with the human genome like a toy

That's partially why mutants are a thing

Humanity fucked up their own genetic code

Ogyrns might be an example

[fallen plaza]

We already have lore as to why they exist

[opaque coyote]

Originally Magnus didn't actually break the webway.

The Emperor did out of sheer rage for Magnus trying to warn him

Which is characteristic

But at the same time kinda

Idiotic even for him

I'm glad they changed it but it's a good way to show the Emperor's "character".

A tyrant

[fallen plaza]

He isn't a character

Frankly I'm just tired of how inconsistent he is portrayed

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it's why it's in quotations mainly

[fallen plaza]

I would have preferred his actions be ambiguous

But no, instead we get the whole stupid emperor is just bad guy but not but maybe

Like fundamentally, we technically don't even know what's the point of the Imperium

[opaque coyote]

True

[opaque coyote]

Technically

It's basically a fucking large waiting line for the webway

[crystal forum]

@dusk patrol iron hands steel even used on iron hands

for some reason it's their colour in SM2

[fallen plaza]

I remember an idea of the emperor that Alan Bligh subscribed to

[dusk patrol]

The color schemes are kinda weird in the game

[crystal forum]

but every guide tells me their colour is abaddon black

[dusk patrol]

Cause they don't reuse colors

[crystal forum]

they're abaddon black right?

[fallen plaza]

And that was that the emperor was a dark age construct that malcador was partnered with

And the emperor was basically the muscle and malcador was the brains

[opaque coyote]

ehhhh

[fallen plaza]

I say it's better than the current theories floating around

[dusk patrol]

Generally yeah

The colors in game are more just excuses to use a lot of color options

Not all are super true to their chapter

[fallen plaza]

It sounds iffy to me at first but if you think about it, it makes sense

[crystal forum]

btw do you use a spray paint thingy

im starting to think i should get one just to save time on painting

[fallen plaza]

I prime with a brush

[crystal forum]

i used to do that but it's so time consuming

and i could never get it to stick correctly

[fallen plaza]

I fucking hate it

[crystal forum]

im so fucking bad at thinning

[fallen plaza]

I'm decent at it

Watch the eonsofbattle video in thinning

It basically opened my eyes

[crystal forum]

i will watch this video

with eyes fully open

[fallen plaza]

Try not to close them btw

[crystal forum]

he recommends painting on my skin

isnt this shit toxic

[fallen plaza]

It's acylic

We're not using lead

It's fine

Besides

[sacred ginkgo]

Just don't drink it

[fallen plaza]

If you become good in it you won't need to dip it often

[fallen plaza]

Too late

[crystal forum]

my resin printing senses are tingling

i will paint something else

[fallen plaza]

If you need any rapiers for your 30k list

Check my cults page

[crystal forum]

woah

zimmer

calm down there

i dont need those in my game

weirdo

[fallen plaza]

Rapiers?

[crystal forum]

R word

[fallen plaza]

[crystal forum]

[fallen plaza]

Okay

There called longswords in my cults page

So, your safe, I guess

[crystal forum]

make titan

model a titan

should be easy right

it's all massive blocks

[fallen plaza]

I wanted to model a Lucius pattern warmaster Titan

[crystal forum]

btw

the process of transferring STL types files to BREP

is extremely time consuming

HOWEVER

i found a way to do use my program to modify your file

so i can add nubs and shit to make it assemblable

so it's like half STL and half BREP

isnt that cool

[sand bloom]

This type of Techpriest communion is really neat

[fallen plaza]

Hell yes

Can't wait to see what you can do to it

Since you can field land raiders in miltia

Go wild

[small grail]

@crystal forum how was it

@fallen plaza did you see it?

The attachment

[fallen plaza]

Gay Jay saw it if i remember

I haven't seen it yet

[crystal forum]

it's good

will there be a sequel?

or did nurgle dorn win the day forever

[small grail]

I made one where vulkan came back

I'm 17 so like I have a bit of free time

So I make these random fan lore

Think I made one of only the sisters of silence and the blood angels fighting together in kadaku

I'd love to make an actual book tho one day

[small grail]

There is actually hold on.....3 parts to it

I gave only 1st I'll have to find the others

@fallen plaza it's a word file by the way

[fallen plaza]

Very well

I'll read it when I'm off uni

[small grail]

P
Yep

[crystal forum]

hey feel free to discuss your ideas here whenever

us lore nerds love fanfic

we even have a black library writer here for some reason

[small grail]

Oh damn thanks dude

[chrome tendon]

Is it true that there are no official pictures of how the chaos Gods look like?

And all those artworks in the internet are just Assumptions?

[plush mason]

really?

[crystal forum]

you never noticed that one of the mods is a BL author?

[plush mason]

nope

[crystal forum]

it's captain kentucky

[outer wave]

What did he write?

Like a short story for BL?

[crystal forum]

idk dilara knows more than me

[outer wave]

Dang

[crystal forum]

just ping her nerd

[queen laurel]

If you're talking about captain Kentucky, She wrote

[crystal forum]

she also wrote for marvel i think??

do NOT quote me

[fallen plaza]

No

[outer wave]

Damn that's cool as hell

[fallen plaza]

Cawk

[green loom]

These are the closest we've gotten, both from AoS

[fallen plaza]

There was another old artwork of khorne

And doesn't nurgle have a depiction?

I swear he did in a total war game or something

[green loom]

There's some ancient, ancient art that had all 4

The images in Total War aren't exact save for Khorne I think

[chrome tendon]

The guy on the left is Khorne? and who is on the right?

[green loom]

Slaanesh

[chrome tendon]

Damn, Khorne looks scary.

[fallen plaza]

Theres not really any similar depiction of the gods

[green loom]

They're a bit less abstract in the fantasy settings

[fallen plaza]

Mainly because there's no reason to

[green loom]

In 40k it's effectively anyone's guess

[queen laurel]

but even these are not the most accurate because in lore they are stated to make their greater demons modeled after themselves so khorne could just look like a very roided out bloodthirster

And Nurgle in artwork most of the time is pretty much just depicted as a giant giant unclean one

But he's only the really one who's depicted like this unlike the other three who is more depicted on other types

[fallen plaza]

Tzeetzch is probably the least depicted god

[green loom]

Burgle is just me

In 40k their physical appearance is probably not really a thing and what they look like changes depending on who they talk to

[fallen plaza]

If they had a mini they would probably have some sort of final appearance

But like I dunno how you would justify that in a game

That would be insane

[queen laurel]

yeah they don't really have a set form but if you want to be the closest in universe that would be their greater demons

[rose thorn]

Hi Slaanesh hi khrone!

Also form forget you can see their eyes every once in a while in total war warhammer 3

Except tzeentch he is always watching

[fallen plaza]

@outer wave the more I look at Pinterest the more I realized that Japanese Gundam fans put western Gundam fans to shame

Like, this is gorgeous

Scratch built dom

[paper haven]

Khornate daemons aren't known for their creativity. They all look like blood thirsters just different sizes

[radiant lance]

What does SM2 smell like

[outer wave]

That shit looks wicked

[outer wave]

Sweat, acid, gunpowder, and dirt

[fallen plaza]

You should read ignace karkacies poem on that

[radiant lance]

Are all space marines the same height?

If you take a smaller person vs a bigger person, do they just come out at the same size?

[shadow plover]

no, there's a lot of variation like in normal humans

the models usually just represent a single height though

[radiant lance]

If all of their suits are passed down through like millenia, how do they account for varying people sizes?

[shadow plover]

they are modified

by tech adepts or the chapter serfs

[leaden pilot]

loving this guy on the battle barge
just walking with a censer and praising Omnissiah

[arctic talon]

The random npcs are a treat

[fleet parcel]

They increase/decrease the height of the user, to make them fit

[radiant lance]

Unbothered. Moisturized. Happy. In My Lane. Focused. Flourishing

[radiant lance]

Tbh, it's 40k
This is entirely plausible

[fleet parcel]

OMNISIAH BE PRAISED

[fleet parcel]

Literally the darktide barber

[shell mason]

which is better DD 1 or 2?

also

[fleet parcel]

I hate dd1

Idk why people call it a roguelike

[shell mason]

bro wtf

[fleet parcel]

I got baited, it said roguelike, it was no roguelike, I was mad at it

[shell mason]

YOU CAN GET A REFUND

[fleet parcel]

You think I can find out in less than 2 hrs

Also refunding it won't change my mind

[shell mason]

in the tutorial section shows you

[fleet parcel]

I love dd2 however

[shell mason]

Darkest dungeon 1 pretty much shows what it is in the first 10 minutes

I can't fw dd2

[fleet parcel]

The first 10 mins I was busy glazing dismas

[shell mason]

See that where you fucked up right there

[fleet parcel]

My fault, i know

But yeah, 2>1 for me

[shell mason]

Reynald my boy

1>2

how far are you in DC?

[fleet parcel]

DC?

[shell mason]

Dead cells my boy

[fleet parcel]

Oh, I've beaten the game

Done everything there's to do

Actually no, not the boss rush

That's hard

[shell mason]

Boss cell 5 and all?

[fleet parcel]

Yeh

[shell mason]

gnarly

[hallow saddle]

DD1 is amazing

[shell mason]

preach

[fleet parcel]

I bet it is, just not for me

[plush mason]

huh, is it a coincidence that the world eaters are the 8th legion which is Khorne's blessed number?

[fleet parcel]

[plush mason]

what number where the thousnad sons and the deathguard?

[shadow plover]

uh, Night Lords are the 8th legion

[plush mason]

oh

nvm then

[shadow plover]

World Eaters are 12th iirc

[plush mason]

DD2 as well

[fleet parcel]

Their only mistake was calling it dd2

It's certainly not a sequel

It's a whole different game. Just sharing a lot of mechanics

[small grail]

Whys khorne always sitting I don't get it

[shadow plover]

hemorrhoids

[plush mason]

didnt he stand up recently?

i know its some kind of big event when he does

not really sure why

[fleet parcel]

How many times has he stood up

[plush mason]

no idea

all i know is he stood up in response to something Angron did or something

[fleet parcel]

Then sat back down

[raven stone]

A self imposed handicap maybe

Khorne is probably strong enough to beat any challengers using his arms alone whilst sitting down

In physical combat at any rate.

[rocky gale]

Well all the gods are basically stuck in their domains because if they leave the other gods will attack, so he may as well just sit and be comfortable

But if you want the old old lore reason (Like Rogue Trader era lore that's probably not canon anymore) then Khorne sits in his throne all day because Slaanesh broke his back

During the birth of Slaanesh, Khorne tried to stop the destruction of the Eldar gods (Khaine specifically) by fighting the newly born Slaanesh, he managed to save some of the Gods but in the process Slaanesh gave him the ole Bane chiropractic treatment.

https://tenor.com/view/bane-dark-knight-rises-broken-back-pain-low-gif-16700598

It's the origin of their rivalry

[queen laurel]

That's been changed right

[leaden pilot]

I love the forklift sentinel

[rocky gale]

Probably, I haven't really kept track of the changes to the Birth of Slaanesh and fall of the Eldar lore

[queen laurel]

I see

[wintry scarab]

How do space marines get their names?

[rocky gale]

How did you get yours?

[queen laurel]

It's the name that they got when they were born as a human

[storm jungle]

^

[rocky gale]

But generally it depends

Depends on Chapter culture and a lot of different things

[queen laurel]

They can change their names though if they feel like the one they have don't fit them

[celest dome]

I though they were given new ones during the brain washing they got

[rocky gale]

Some keep their birth names, some get given new names, some inherit a name from a previous Chapter member

Some earn their names

[storm jungle]

Nah thats grey knights

[rocky gale]

Some get given them

[crisp heath]

definitely something ironically funny about the god of rage sitting there chillin all day

[storm jungle]

t obe fair

its not chilling

its more uh:

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-sour-cat-cat-meme-cat-gif-4305398913986271634

[crisp heath]

lol

[celest dome]

Brooding ?

[crisp heath]

cope & seethe

[rocky gale]

It's why I like the old Lore of Slaanesh paralysing Khorne, like he's the god of war and he's unable to rise from his chair and taste battle himself, so he just sits fermenting in his rage

[storm jungle]

hes just like me

[queen laurel]

Tell him to install league of legends to truly taste rage

[rocky gale]

Who do you think created it?

[queen laurel]

Shit you right

[rocky gale]

Khorne made League, Tzeentch made Starcraft, Slaanesh made Overwatch and Nurgle made Smash.

[crisp heath]

feeling slaaneshi right now at the station thinking of getting a Rindsbratwurst im Brötchen mit Senf

but i'm not paying that much nuh uh

[storm jungle]

[crisp heath]

"at least it's not airport prices" i tell myself, but that would be anchoring

[rocky gale]

What's Senf?

[crisp heath]

fuck tzeentch

[crisp heath]

mustard!!!

[rocky gale]

Nice

[crisp heath]

really it's nothing special but it hits nice always

just a beef sausage in a bun basically

but its SO GOOD

but SO EXPENSIVE

i could afford it but the mere fact that i could get 2 of those if i made them at home is outrageous

that's a price increase to 200%

and yeah i'm going on about it and being mad because it is so seducing

emperor chastise me

update: i withstood temptation

[crisp heath]

#livestory

[wintry scarab]

Really? Are you sure because most of them have names like fucking "Asmodeus" or "Tartarus" or something like that. Who the hell calls their kids that. Especially when your average guardsman is called something like Paul.

[storm jungle]

Its 40k.

[green loom]

Naming schemes differ from planet to planet

[storm jungle]

They name them after greek-like schemes or through the brutal societies they grew up in.

[storm jungle]

^

Ultramarines getting names like that is like the most normal thing lol

[green loom]

I imagine especially if you're a recruiting world it might influence it lol

You name kids after literal angels for good luck

[queen laurel]

This is warhammer 40k where multiple types of worlds can exist there are literally worlds no more better than that of caveman

[green loom]

Worse even than that, places like Birmingham exist

[storm jungle]

You are also making the mistake of applying real world logic to this universe as well.

These people are not like us.

[queen laurel]

The worst thing

[green loom]

It's a good thing Birmingham is just fiction

[wintry scarab]

Well yeah, my point is just that you would never see a space marine called paul. But i guess that depends on the recruitment planets. Guess the planets they are recruited from just have those sorts of naming schemes.

[storm jungle]

I mean

we literally just said that above

so yes

[celest dome]

I'm sure there is some Paulus somewhere

[woeful holly]

Same energy

[storm jungle]

shame he died instantly

[woeful holly]

Worth it.

[rose thorn]

Looks like Necromunda

And they kept talking about the desert and dryness

I doubt orks are gonna get anything new this edition

[queen laurel]

That's serrated edge work looks very similar to that of iron jaws but it has a certain clean to it

[radiant lance]

So, what made the whole sensei, Erda, Shaman, psyk-out dust lore stuff all no one relevant?

[celest dome]

Not sure which Necromunda faction that would work on tbh

[queen laurel]

Goliaths are my biggest wager

They seem like the type to carry around giant serrated blades for weapons

[celest dome]

They don't really, other than Circular Saws and Chain weapons

[queen laurel]

Yes but if we're talking ones that would really use that i think i would give it to them

[celest dome]

Delague and Vann Saar are out

[rose thorn]

The thing that tells me otherwise is the bolt on the handle

[celest dome]

One prefer stabby weapons and the other use Tech

Esher could work

I think a Bounty Hunter would make some measure of sense

[rose thorn]

Also if that’s a hand then it’s a very small ork hand

[rose thorn]

Corpse grinder

Or the new stealers

[celest dome]

Corpse Grinder could work, but their's is more stable

[queen laurel]

the lack of forced screw gave it away but it it definitely looks like something that that an ork would use for a choppa

[crystal forum]

anything involving the emperor in 40k will never be expanded upon is what i get from it

and sensei lore is just flat out weird

[crystal forum]

it's an actual model too

or, was at least

i don't think SM2 even has any regular sentinels which is funny

[storm jungle]

It will get expanded gradually.

like, super gradually

the writers cannot resist themselves

[queen laurel]

Writers resisting the urge to make the emperor's life even worse

[storm jungle]

The sensei largely got abandoned because they didnt make much sense with the current lore.

Erda wasn't abandoned its just a dumb sideplot that got added in a previous book and didnt accumulate to anything as she died in the literal next one.

Shamans is unclear. They haven't been mentioned since their first origin point in the lore but since we still dont know how the emperor was born as a multi-soul being its still the only relevant information we got.

[crystal forum]

we likely never will learn where he comes from

[storm jungle]

We will

[queen laurel]

Is it canon that he is still alexander the great

[crystal forum]

but i would like something more substantial than the shaman origin

[storm jungle]

Again. The writers cannot resist themselves.

[queen laurel]

Or was that like trashed

[storm jungle]

no idea why anyone thinks anything in this setting remains a mystery

[storm jungle]

Nah thats canon.

was revealed with End and the Death

its like a year old, very fresh

[crystal forum]

the shaman origin just doesnt make much sense too. how come no other psykic race created an emperor

[storm jungle]

Because these groups of shamans communicated with each other and mediated for a long time before coming to this conclusion.

and this is a human centric story

who gives a shit about what any other psychic race is doing

lol

[tough haven]

So true bestie

I mean the eldar kinda created an emperor

[tough haven]

Don’t think that’s canon anymore

[rose thorn]

My bets guess is maybe some corpse grinder character living in Secundus

[rose thorn]

My bets guess is maybe some corpse grinder character living in Secundus

[tough haven]

Just a little spikier

[rose thorn]

I guess it depends if that’s a hand or wraps on the weapon in the corner

[crystal forum]

then how come no other human planet created an emperor? surely even a single hive world must have more humans than pre industrial age earth

[storm jungle]

Because humanity was only on earth at the time

you do realise we are talking pre-galactic expansion ages right

lol

[crystal forum]

im asking why no other human area has replicated the emperor

if all it takes is psykers killing themselves

[storm jungle]

Because they just didnt.

its not just psykers killing themselves

they convened in a massive ritual suicide

and made their souls combine into one being

[queen laurel]

"can you guys give a face of the emperor for art purposes i want to draw him"

SAY LESS

[storm jungle]

after meditating on it for like forever

[storm jungle]

Its never been revoked so far.

[crystal forum]

i just dont like the origin

[storm jungle]

too bad

[crystal forum]

i'd like a better one

[crystal forum]

dilara you're a good writer you can do better right

[tough haven]

We’d like a lot of better things in 40K

[rose thorn]

Because psykers being a big thing is a recent event

[crystal forum]

so old psykers were rarer but more powerful?

that would be interesting

[tough haven]

Any recently no one’s like “yeah let’s create another emperor”

That just never crosses their minds

[crystal forum]

maybe the shamans were all like alpha level psykers

[storm jungle]

Im a writer but 40k is the last slop id wanna write about

[rose thorn]

8 shamans (supposedly) were probably the only psykers in the world

[tough haven]

I believe so

[rose thorn]

I mean

Galaxy

Shit

Oh besides old ones

[storm jungle]

it wasnt 8 shamans

[crystal forum]

since the warp was calmer being a psyker was less dangerous

[storm jungle]

it was like hundreds

[tough haven]

It could be less slop

[rose thorn]

Whoops

[crystal forum]

so being an alpha+ didnt mean instant insanity

that would make sense

thanks mag

[rose thorn]

Also 40k is really terrible at writing the emperor

[tough haven]

Fr

His character is ???

[rose thorn]

If modern writers had to write the emperor in the modern day they would have an aneurism

[crystal forum]

wait you've never written about 40k?

[rose thorn]

What ever the politics of the current writer is

You can tell some writers were really really into the emperor

[storm jungle]

I meant in an official capacity

i got a ton of homebrew

lol

[crystal forum]

wait you have actually published stuff?

outside 40k

[rose thorn]

Define publish

[crystal forum]

sold by a publishing company?

idk really

i get if you dont want to share that since your real name would be tied to it

[wintry scarab]

Imo most of the primarch and emperor stuff should be left as something thats just left up to interpretation. Same with something like necrons. I dont like how much information we have about them. But granted i havent read any of the 30k emperor/primarch stuff so most of this is from wikis and youtube vids.

[tough haven]

Homebrew best brew

[rose thorn]

As a gulliman lover, I hate primarchs lmao I genuinely think it’s one of the worst parts of 40k

Next to uh

The actual bad stuff

[storm jungle]

NO NO NO

I meant like ive been writing shit on my own for years

like proper stories and shit, i never release them publicly because anxiety, just make friends read em and stuff

[queen laurel]

I love making my character that has already has five weapons carry more

[rose thorn]

I and what I heard alot of other people think just having the leaders of each chapter be like

Chapter masters or normal ass marines

Would have been a better story but that’s a cold take

[gray umbra]

I feel like whatever 40k homebrew i could think up has probably been done to death

[rose thorn]

40k is full of dead horse jsut don’t be cringe and do what you think is cool

[queen laurel]

well it doesn't hurt to try, it's your own thing and it doesn't affect the setting

there cringe things in the setting but i'm pretty sure you can tell what is what

[wintry scarab]

To me it just feels like the more you know and explain about the legendary people the more goofy it gets. Its like explaining cathulu. The unknown is the thing thats the interesting part. Once you remove that it just becomes a bit lame. imo.

[rose thorn]

Death specters

[rose thorn]

That’s 100% true

I think if it was normal space marines, no Demi gods

Then the chaos angle would make more sense

And be mroe meaningful

[crystal forum]

i would like to see with my own eyes one day

[queen laurel]

characters that Orniris is Commissioned to draw in the daily

[gray umbra]

Only things ive considered are heavy vanguard chapters with a similar combat doctrine to alpha marines or imperial guard regiment thats a mix of tanith and catachans

Both prolly done to death

[queen laurel]

there is this one mentality that will fix that is my idea done to death

Buy a field fucks and don't grow anything on it and then just proceed with the idea just make ways of making it unique to you

and if you're confused with how to handle something on your home brew ask here

[tough haven]

I wholeheartedly agree

[crystal forum]

i lean towards guard regiments because it unironically gives more room for creativity

[rose thorn]

So? Just make your chapter work with a specific regiment or a specific area

[queen laurel]

Yeah just make the idea it's your thing and it's not like it's gonna destroy the world of warhammer 40K

just look for ways to make it truly unique to your own

[crystal forum]

first drafts are not typically super original but the more lore depth you give your chapter the more they'll start to stand out

[rose thorn]

My chapter is directly tied to a small ass minor ordos of the inquisition

[queen laurel]

i made an Ork that is a mercenary that would save people because he thinks that there will be more of them to kill in the future if he saves them

[crystal forum]

"friendly" orks make best stories

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's very funny and also very scary

[tough haven]

Fr I love my friendly orks

[tough haven]

Gotta select for the traits you want to save in dem Humies so they make better ones to fight!

[gray umbra]

I just like stealth marines but an ig regiment that overcomes powerbloat with guerilla warfare is also sick imo

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah are you excited for the orruk mercenary rules next year?

This edition every faction is getting at least one regiment of renown and one army of renown

We are probably getting a iron jaws mercenary unit( either using a new unit or a new hero

And the regiment will probably be a kruleboyz goblin one

[queen laurel]

oh shit

That sounds nice

[rose thorn]

Yeah

I doubt sons of behemoth will be getting a new mercenary and new regiment

Maybe the mercenary is just the new model

[queen laurel]

Are Ogor mercenary rules still a thing

[rose thorn]

They will be getting them with their battletomb

[outer wave]

Good....

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah that's the stuff

[rose thorn]

The rule is regiments of renown, basically you get a handful of units from another army with a special rule

[queen laurel]

The only faction that don't really have mercenary rules because it won't fit them are the gloomspite

[rose thorn]

The new skaven one looks really really good

[rose thorn]

They have one

It’s uh,

Bottle snatchers?

It’s really good

It’s a wizard with one of the best spells in the game, the entire 500 points teleport

[queen laurel]

These guys

[rose thorn]

Yeah

It’s amaizng

[queen laurel]

I'm really glad that they are playing into the chaotic neutral aspect of destruction

Every single faction in the alliance can be a mercenary

[rose thorn]

Lore wise these guys get paid in bottles

To fill with potions and alcohol

[queen laurel]

Make sense

Because i'm pretty sure Orruk payment is mostly going to be scrap metal

Ogors and Gargants love food and money

Gloomspite basically can get their hands on a lot of things but bottles aren't that easy to come by because you know they don't do glass work

[rose thorn]

Also they are very easy to break

[queen laurel]

You mean they're bravery or morale?

[outer wave]

I wonder how awful it would to have an orruk merc, considering spores

[rose thorn]

The bottles

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah they are very clumsy

[rose thorn]

I haven’t read the beast skewer lore yet

Let me check

Destruction and order have some of the best mercenaries in the game lmao

Chaos has one amazing one that got nerfed now it’s pretty good

Well nerf

More like

The game changed

HAAHAahahHahah

You fuckin can’t run it in khorne

That’s hilarious

[queen laurel]

So the only factions that don't really have a mercenary rule are Iron Jawz and Ogors which they are getting

[rose thorn]

Most factions don’t

But they are getting one eventually

[queen laurel]

I mean in destruction

Should have added that

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah

They both have armies of renown though

[queen laurel]

krule boyz, sons of behamat and Grots have it

It's only the iron jawz and and ogors

I don't expect any for the Bonesplitterz considering the incident that happened to them

Poor little buggers

[rose thorn]

We will probably get them or Beasts of chaos next edition

[queen laurel]

Yeah hopefully the old molds will be remade

[rose thorn]

Yeah that’s why they were both killed

I want bone splitters to go a more like, spiritual route tbh

[queen laurel]

Yeah they are basically savage orcs but more savage

Make them like the magical ones

[rose thorn]

And the way to they are stylized feels gross

[queen laurel]

You mean the generic tribal naked guys with only loin cloth?

[rose thorn]

Yes

[queen laurel]

Yeah i'm with you on that one while it does make them look feral which works for them it is a bit you know old

[rose thorn]

Rhey were basically based off of South America and Africa racial stereotypes

Gloomspite sadly have the same problem for spiders but I doubt it will stay that way

[queen laurel]

Hey there are orcs that were made to be slaves and are called Black orcs let's not talk about that

[rose thorn]

And it’s much less

Then bone splitters

[rose thorn]

Cureently gloomspite spiders are on a do not buy basis besides big spider

[queen laurel]

Honestly Destruction needs a magical faction, and Bonesplitterz did sort of take that, even back then they were already you know the more magical of the factions, Ogors, Gargants, and iron jawz embody the strength of Gorkamorka, Kruleboyz and Grots embody his cunning

[rose thorn]

Yeah that’s basically why you ran them in big wagh

Also they said they won’t be adding bonesplittaz to old world

So that’s a good sign for them coming back

[queen laurel]

LETS GOOO

[rose thorn]

Idk why they wouldn’t, because they are getting added to total war

[queen laurel]

because Besides Wurrzag they were non existent

[rose thorn]

Ah

[queen laurel]

like they're basically just background props

like take orcs make them more feral

that's it

but just to confirm

[rose thorn]

there’s a lot of route you can take an updated bone splittaz

The worst way is basically being the same army with new models

[queen laurel]

@celest dome Oi ya spiky git, can you tell me if savage orcs in warhammer fantasy we're treated with respect or basically just background characters

ping me later for the answer

[celest dome]

Like by other Orcs ?

Or by Black Library

[queen laurel]

BL

[rose thorn]

The bone splittaz

[celest dome]

Not really

[rose thorn]

In old world

[celest dome]

Even Wurrzag wasn't much of a narrative character

[queen laurel]

yeah i'm pretty sure you can remove them from Orcs in warhammer fantasy and nothing will change

[rose thorn]

So how could they do an AOS bone splittaz to fit the vibe but not stereotype

[celest dome]

Close to it yes

[rose thorn]

They could make them more based off indigenous tribes across the world but they did that lore wise last edition and it didn’t go well

It was basically ‘cold, forest, desert’

Mayeb they just go the claws or Karnak way and just go full bone animal cosplay

They conjured the powers of the bones they wear

Bone dinosaur orruks

[queen laurel]

I understand where you're coming from but it has been a long treated trope that if you're a savage and animalistic you barely wear any clothing, A Morboy next to a DND barbarian

It could definitely work in some more monster bone aesthetic

basically making them a bit more civilized

[rose thorn]

They are just WoW orks is the problem lmao

[queen laurel]

yep

[rose thorn]

And are covered in stereotypes

[queen laurel]

yeah but making them also wear bone armor is making me also realize that they love being naked

they are so proud of their durability they use nothing but paint

[rose thorn]

how can you like

not make them naked

you really cant

[queen laurel]

yeah it's a core aesthetic of their character that they are so sure that the paint that they wear is enough that they don't need anything else to wear

[rose thorn]

if they wear loads of bones that does open up alot of lore ideas

'these guys are basically necormancers and live in shyish'

[queen laurel]

yep it does

[rose thorn]

'these guys wear th ebones of small animals'

'these guy love human bones'

how many models can you do that with out being repatative

[queen laurel]

Honestly maybe making their clothing just very primitive but not completely naked would work as well

just put like extra bones or

something

[rose thorn]

also NO NOSE BONES GW

gw if you do that you kill the entire army

[queen laurel]

yeah i'm sure they learned that the first time hopefully

[rose thorn]

they amde that shit in the 90s lmao

i mean

80s

they could do anything and get away tiwht it

[queen laurel]

yeah but i'm pretty sure they're not that stupid now

well hopefully anyway

[outer wave]

https://youtu.be/LTHkI2GSVJw

[rose thorn]

in class waht does it say

[outer wave]

I just started watching

[rose thorn]

let me sedn this to my aprtner

[queen laurel]

Skull Taker And Golgfag are done

model wise

[rose thorn]

nice

[fallen plaza]

Cockhead

[queen laurel]

Gorbad doesn't have anything

[rose thorn]

if the new bone splittaz look like this it woudl be fine

just generic dnd bonesplittaz

[queen laurel]

yeah that's what i'm saying

Give them more clothing

make them more busy basically

[celest dome]

So Scylla Amgrimmfist is gonna be a LH alongside Skulltaker

Well at least he isn't a LL

[small grail]

Shud I make some more fan lore?

[queen laurel]

two legendary hero jump scare

[rose thorn]

that looks like a baldes of khorne character

[queen laurel]

he appears in the end times so

yeah that makes sense

[rose thorn]

OH ITS TEH SAME GUY

LMAO

[gray umbra]

Lol people now shifting and being mad the femcustodes from tides is too masculine

[rose thorn]

SKARR BLOODWRATH

[queen laurel]

BAHAHAHAHAHA KHORNE IS GETTING AOS TIER CHARACTERS

[rose thorn]

btw the previous leader of the khorne faction died,

fuckin uhh

[outer wave]

HIS REAL NAME IS USED YES!!

[rose thorn]

korghos khul died

and his named dudes

he died after killing that named stormcast

[celest dome]

Fuck sake
They really are piking the Heroes like they're scrambling for them 💀

Really ought to have been a LL

[queen laurel]

I haven't really listened so who knows he might be the fll

[rose thorn]

AOS TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER UPDATE WHEN

[celest dome]

If Khorne get an additional Dlc there is only Kabanda or Arbaal

[small grail]

Takes me a while but I think I cud pull it off

[celest dome]

Don't think they'll do Flc in TWW3

[outer wave]

Yeah do it dude

Warhammer is a universe all about custom chapters and shit

[small grail]

I've done it before already

[queen laurel]

nope they gave corn 3 legendary heroes

[small grail]

I made a battle between royal dorn vs lion and guiliman

It's in a word file on top

[queen laurel]

Karanak, spawn guy, and aos guy

[small grail]

Just search my name shud be there

[outer wave]

I see I see

[celest dome]

I really think TWW3 Dlc teams is just done with warhammer tbh

[queen laurel]

Orcs and Ogres i think they said they're getting their own legendary heroes so that's nice

but i am pretty sure they are rather scraping the barrel

[celest dome]

Ogre have a couple to pick for

[outer wave]

Tbf Ogres arent as developed

Less notable characters, less notable fights as armies across the world, etc

I think AoS has a biiit of a similar issue

[celest dome]

Bragg the Gutsman would make a lot of sense to see as a LH

[outer wave]

Braugh Slaveowner (I cant remember his Big Name) could also be a cool LH

[celest dome]

Only way I would see him as a LL would be in the case where they made a Gnobblar focused dlc/faction

[celest dome]

Slavelord

Tbh I see him more as a Unique Lord

[outer wave]

Or that