I like that they throw rocks
#40k-lore-chat
paper haven
fleet parcel
but bluntly, and hit you with the shaft
opaque coyote
paper haven
Pointy sticks and rocks
crystal forum
I like that they throw rocks
it used to be a case of grenades
paper haven
it used to be a case of grenades
That was funny too
crystal forum
it didn't even explode
paper haven
They were told to throw grenades, so they did
crystal forum
they're trying their best
opaque coyote
but bluntly, and hit you with the shaft
Lmao
But yeah I definitely think an Ogyrn has the intelligence to
"Throw point bit at heretic"
Also the image of an Ogyrn throwing a sharp object at you is terrifying
It could even be like
A metal spike or something
opaque coyote
It should also have Cleave and like
Go through enemies
paper haven
Given that they're strong enough to nail you to a wall at distance
opaque coyote
"Ogyrn make Kebab."
fleet parcel
im liking sm2 a lot more than i thought i would, the immersion is great, it really makes you feel like a space marine, between the gameplay mechanics and customization
opaque coyote
throws spear that goes through 5 poxwalkers at once
crystal forum
goes to show that all their brainpower went to survival instincts like throwing spears
paper haven
Can Ogryns pick up the rocks they throw? If not, they should be able to
opaque coyote
goes to show that all their brainpower went to survival instincts like throwing ...
Yeah Ogyrns are basically humans that sacrificed intelligence for the ability to survive
And survive they do
fleet parcel
Can Ogryns pick up the rocks they throw? If not, they should be able to
lorewise they just find a new one on the ground, which is why they refill on their own
paper haven
That's fine too I suppose
crystal forum
where they find rocks in a hive is anyone's guess
fleet parcel
in the ground
paper haven
It's a hive city. There isn't much ground.
paper haven
Perhaps bits of concrete buildings. Those would be rock-like
fleet parcel
matter of fact it is, since some of them have gravel
crystal forum
rock adjacent
raven stone
It's the Imperium, wouldn't surprise me if random stonework happened even in the middle of a hive
Possibly some stonework used to adorn supporting pillars and the like
crystal forum
imperium is so cheap that ogryns have to use rock substitutes
fleet parcel
it is just a piece of a wall or column
paper haven
it is just a piece of a wall or column
I was right!
dusk patrol
It’s a fucking rock guys not a diamond
fleet parcel
what do you call those metal things in english
dusk patrol
Rebar
fleet parcel
that, yeah
paper haven
Rocks matter to Ogryns, they should matter to us too.
crystal forum
do you think hadron has to bless the rocks before battle
paper haven
That's rebar, yeah.
fleet parcel
absolutely
crystal forum
this is why she hates everything
dusk patrol
She’s surrounded by idiots
fleet parcel
actually, cannonically no, since they find the rocks on the ground during missions
crystal forum
what about the ones they start the mission with
fleet parcel
its from the previous mission
crystal forum
so the ogryn just keeps rocks with him
queen laurel
so the ogryn just keeps rocks with him
ogryns can get attached to many things
fleet parcel
like rations
queen laurel
hell Brawler carried around a skull because he thought it was a lucky rock
dusk patrol
ogryns can get attached to many things
Obviously not since he’s chucking it at the enemy
paper haven
You try telling an Ogryn to take those out of his pockets and put them in a locked box.
crystal forum
that must have been one mangled skull for it to resemble a rock
fleet parcel
Obviously not since he’s chucking it at the enemy
its an act of care, they want the heretics to look at their cute rock
queen laurel
that must have been one mangled skull for it to resemble a rock
it's Brawler, he's the dumbest out of the three
crystal forum
brawler sees somebody get shot by gauss weaponry, realizes there's rocks inside all of us
fleet parcel
gotta open everyons skull and collect their rock
crystal forum
'ere umie lemme get that rock outta ya
fleet parcel
Hey I fixed ya shouty, no longer shouting
crystal forum
fleet parcel
rock and stone
crystal forum
to the bone
dusk patrol
fleet parcel
the random sniper who isnt even aggrod
dusk patrol
He had it coming
crystal forum
being given a long las as a heretic shortens your lifespan quite considerably
fleet parcel
picked the wrong side of history
crystal forum
well this is an interesting one
notice is says scions and not aquilons
and sisters of silence? i thought their generic unit got removed
might mean we're getting a real sisters of silence killteam
small grail
well this is an interesting one
whats wrong here?
bit confused
what i get is a sisters killteam which is odd
havent seen that before
green loom
well this is an interesting one
It's prolly cus that doesn't refer to the aquilons
All the teams with boxes are orange, I figure the others are uhh
shadow plover
So at one point you have this strike force visible in Space Marine 2 and to me it looked like a pretty much exactly like a 2000 point army list for the tabletop so I double checked. It equals to 1945 points without the Vitrix Guard, which is only available along side Marneus Calgar and that full unit is 185 points. So in theory they could barely fit into that 2k point limit
crystal forum
they were already part of the custodes killteam
which is not an actual box set
but might bet one day i guess
arctic talon
I just woke up
crystal forum
they're removing anything remotely generic it seems
spare osprey
Yeah seems a bit right
crystal forum
to fit with the "pump out more kits" approach
arctic talon
Literally puking blood and crying
spare osprey
I mean you have the entire Krieg update coming later
small grail
Looks OK tho
spare osprey
Something I will say
crystal forum
im guessing they want to add more guard regiments
small grail
Any new titans?
spare osprey
Something I will say
Hate the planned obselcence
crystal forum
since krieg will become obsolete
spare osprey
Hate
crystal forum
the sorta good news is this means another guard type will replace krieg
but like, making kasrkin obsolete?
small grail
Which ones tho
crystal forum
what is GW smoking
small grail
what is GW smoking
That nurgle crack fo sho
crystal forum
it's literally one of the most popular teams
arctic talon
It’s a shame it won’t be allowed in tournaments after it rotates
arctic talon
Meh I don’t play killteam competitively
crystal forum
why would they make their poster children obsolete
crystal forum
what if they start updating rules regularly
non classified teams will be stuck with shitty early rules
torpid narwhal
i had the biggest smile on my face during this scene
crystal forum
especially since the whole game will be balanced around a select few killteams
crystal forum
So at one point you have this strike force visible in Space Marine 2 and to me i...
could have been made before points changes lol
crystal forum
keep in mind
the game has bolter variants that arent even on tabletop anymore
like the stalker bolt rifle
and the full auto one
those have been lumped up into bolt rifle in 10th
shadow plover
well sure, still has a model for it
crystal forum
yeah because they didn't bother changing the moulds 
arctic talon
what if they start updating rules regularly
doubt it ngl
GW doesn't do super regular balance changes
dusk patrol
i had the biggest smile on my face during this scene
It’s really fun
arctic talon
and we know non classified teams still get rule changes
dusk patrol
Also the dreadnought scene
torpid narwhal
It’s really fun
i finished last night and seeing all the stuff i read about in a story driven game was so awesome
dusk patrol
Yeah they did a great job showing it visually
crystal forum
i want a game about that dread
torpid narwhal
this was me the whole game
torpid narwhal
the devs did their research
arctic talon
the game has bolter variants that arent even on tabletop anymore
fluff != tabletop
crystal forum
and we know non classified teams still get rule changes
only at the very start of new editions
so 4 years i think
arctic talon
only at the very start of new editions
I don't think they said that?
they said non classified teams will still get regular changes
crystal forum
i'll get the page
torpid narwhal
i wish they let us wear that deathwatch armor from the first level
torpid narwhal
but i hope this game will help people see the ultra marines are truly the best chapter 
crystal forum
From now on, every kill team will receive consistently updated rules for two editions – updates will be quarterly, while smaller adjustments may be made as required.
rose thorn
& never did like their hobgoblins tbh
arctic talon
def an L lol
rose thorn
They look too like, strong
rose thorn
crystal forum
You can still enjoy playing them in all other settings except for Classified tournament play – and they will continue to receive updates (including for balance) until the end of this edition.
rose thorn
I see what the artists were going for
crystal forum
You can still enjoy playing them in all other settings except for Classified tou...
this is about ork team
so a team that's no long classified after this edition
rose thorn
You can still enjoy playing them in all other settings except for Classified tou...
I Just think the classified thing is stupid
arctic talon
I think most people think its stupid
crystal forum
but i hope this game will help people see the ultra marines are truly the best c...
titus has the personality of a plank of wood so i doubt it
rose thorn
Warcry has one box, bespoke, and bespoke one box game modes
arctic talon
and comp players don't like it either
torpid narwhal
titus has the personality of a plank of wood so i doubt it
but hes got chad energy
crystal forum
the chad energy comes from the dread at the end
crystal forum
titus is a bitch who doesnt tell the chaplain to fuck off
arctic talon
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
It literally is to me
you will never convince me Warcry is as good as killteam gameplay wise
rose thorn
Okay there we go
small grail
I'm gonna paint a custodian what's the best colour
arctic talon
I've invested plenty of time into both
I just think Warcry is too simplistic
lol
I don't think enough during it
crystal forum
this doesn't effect casual players though
it will from what i said
small grail
It may be my first mini fig
crystal forum
rules will suck for non classified teams
small grail
So wish me luck
rose thorn
I have no clue how you play then. It’s my most played version of Warhammer
arctic talon
rules will suck for non classified teams
once the edition changes
rose thorn
And I’m like hyper autistic memorizing the abilities
small grail
How was yalls first miniature painting?
small grail
How bad we talking on a scale
crystal forum
How was yalls first miniature painting?
awful
arctic talon
lol
crystal forum
my painting is still awful
arctic talon
rose thorn
idk how to explain, it might just be a like, human coding difference
rose thorn
How was yalls first miniature painting?
Terrible
crystal forum
i dont fucking get how to make paint stick
arctic talon
Here’s a dude I’m working on rn in comparison
crystal forum
it's either too diluted or not diluted enough
small grail
Why his face all smushed up
small grail
Oh
winter vessel
You gotta have the same precision that old guy has from Toy Story 2 when he was fixing Woody to stick the landing with painting minis
arctic talon
<:artistrangle:1140439494458351728> idk how to explain, it might just be a like,...
I just do not find Warcry nearly as enjoyable rules wise, it feels to stripped back for me to enjoy it like AoS ngl
Killteam ups the complexity compared to 40k a lot
and takes advantage of the fact its smaller
at least to me
crystal forum
i tried using nuln oil for the first time the other day and now my model looks like it's drenched in engine oil
i feel like this hobby hates me
small grail
My first mini was like from gartan of banban dude
queen laurel
you over nuln'd
the fact that there is still a supply after your drinking session was insane
small grail
And the worst part was it was lion el jonson
rose thorn
and takes advantage of the fact its smaller
I love warcry because it’s a balance of simplicity and fun rules factor, same as AOS. I can put as much effort or as little effort I want into an army and each unit feels unique while not being hell to read
And also the campaign mode is
So fucking fun
arctic talon
idk
rose thorn
The card game
Yes
fallen plaza
Oh
arctic talon
I wish warcry was more complex
rose thorn
Don’t play it
small grail
Why so?
rose thorn
I wish warcry was more complex
Well the new big game mechanic is passives
arctic talon
I want Killteam AoS™️
small grail
Meanin?
rose thorn
It’s a free to play card game
small grail
I want Killteam AoS™️
Big hopes ryt here
arctic talon
meh
Warcry is fine as is
just because I don't like it
doesn't mean people don't
small grail
Honestly wanted the horus heresy to be like u know...the actual horus heresy
Where u play as like a guardsman trying to survive
rose thorn
It’s considered one of the best skirmishing games ever tbh
small grail
That wud have been cool
fallen plaza
Where u play as like a guardsman trying to survive
Thats not really what the horus heresy is about
small grail
Thats not really what the horus heresy is about
I know I'm just sayin
rose thorn
It’s considered one of the best skirmishing games ever tbh
Which I disagree with because fallout wasteland warfare but what ever
arctic talon
Best skirmish scale games are like
Killteam, infinity, warcry and the fallout one
Those 4 eat up like
small grail
Which I disagree with because fallout wasteland warfare but what ever
The orcs blood and teef was fun
arctic talon
99% of the market share lol
small grail
Killteam, infinity, warcry and the fallout one
No lies
rose thorn
Never played infinity
rose thorn
Also I might be bias against killteam because trying to learn it was, hell
arctic talon
Almost all the minis are metal
small grail
Qhats the max tabletop points yall have ever seen
rose thorn
Almost all the minis are metal
Damn
arctic talon
Also I might be bias against killteam because trying to learn it was, hell
New edition is easier to learn by a ton
Without losing the complexity
small grail
Almost all the minis are metal
That wud be pretty heavy won't it?
arctic talon
They trimmed a lot of shitty rules
small grail
They trimmed a lot of shitty rules
Like
arctic talon
Qhats the max tabletop points yall have ever seen
8000 points in person
small grail
8000 points in person
Mine was I think....40,000 just like the verse
arctic talon
Cover works better now
small grail
Made for shits and giggle
arctic talon
Pistols don’t need you to roll for range anymore
small grail
But I'd say it was a nightmare moving it around
small grail
Pistols don’t need you to roll for range anymore
Ur jokin?
small grail
Well my friends and I tried it
For shits and giggles
4v4
We went beyond the veil for that shit
arctic talon
On a physical board?
small grail
Yep
arctic talon
That seems like misery
small grail
That seems like misery
Yea but we had fun I'd say
crystal forum
you have 40k worth of units?
small grail
you have 40k worth of units?
Collectively
I had I think 20
No no sorry 10
Mb
We like combined and played
small grail
you have 40k worth of units?
Shudve been there brother it was fun
But like the factions were all so fucked
So the opponents (4 of em) had imperial fists, necrons, thousand sons and nurgle units
We had dark angels, khorne bloodletters, ultramarines and Tau
crystal forum
who won
small grail
Actually was pretty close
We lost sadly
By around 4 points difference
It took us 2 days to finish up
crystal forum
did you like reserve a table in a shop
small grail
Actually we did it at home
crystal forum
i'd like to create my own terrain some day
small grail
Took a buncha tables
Like the foldable ones
But like big
We did build our own terrain
Since it was a cluster fuck of unlikely factions we made up like our own lore
So so fun man
But just 4 points dude ....4 points
We had like 10 something titans
Only inperators
And a bit o warhounds
small grail
Yea
crystal forum
small grail
What what's wrong?
crystal forum
those are just pretty damn big models lol
small grail
I know right
But wait I have more to tell
Around the 3rd round I had the lion so I landed some pretty good rolls and he was absolutely slaughtering necrons left and right
But like the resurrection protocol was so annoying
I cud send ya the lore we made for it
Since it was like a make believe battle
crystal forum
what's the gist of it
small grail
Kinda like the heresy
Maybe more dark or I suppose brooding
I mean the heresy was pretty dark and depressing but we tried to make it more depressing
Especially with the factions we were usin
Literally one of theses things is not like the other was our game
crystal forum
at least guilliman and the lion are still fighting together 🤝
small grail
Yea but dorn was on the other side man
Wait was there ever a mini made for rogal dorn?
Just askin
crystal forum
not for 40k i think
fallen plaza
Most primarchs do
crystal forum
all the primarchs have HH models ofc
small grail
Fuuuck I shudve told my friend to bring the model
Then it wud be so cool
In this story dorn became the horus of the war basically
So he was leading all the opponents
crystal forum
is it related to him hating the codex
small grail
Yep
crystal forum
nice
small grail
We had reserves man...we...we had reserves
And the worst part was...
60 percent were like titans
30 percent terminators and other basic units
And 10 percent was just dreadnoughts
crystal forum
titans waiting in the backlines to be deployed 
small grail
There qas a massive sale in the store near us so we just kinda splashed out
small grail
titans waiting in the backlines to be deployed <a:defaultdancegryn:1008635437339...
Imagine a fuckin daemon possessed titan 2 of em just staring at ur units
crystal forum
i imagine it's like seeing a warhound running at you in the horizon
crystal forum
were there knights?
small grail
Whyd u even ask bud
Of course they were
We went all out man all out
I think I still have the file with the lore
U want it?
@crystal forum
crystal forum
sure
fallen plaza
Lets all see
crystal forum
yeah post it here
small grail
Won't it like get lost in the fray?
Ok wait lemme just find it
Keep in mind by the way a bit of fantasy was mixed
small grail
Ye
small grail
BTW I have two parts @crystal forum
small grail
Yea because a Heroic Scale Imperator would be like 6ft tall
Mb
rocky gale
No worries was just wondering
small grail
Ones the conversation between the primarchs as well
I'm gonna post it here
So view it before it is lost in the fray
\
it is one of the story we made
not the final cut
but have a look and tell me if its good
do use word to read
sorry i wanted to get the exact 40k font
do increase the word size its pretty small
sorry
celest dome
How much bigger is a Killa Kan compared to a normal Ork @queen laurel ?
dusk patrol
How much bigger is a Killa Kan compared to a normal Ork <@783504501561753651> ?
Also most normal Orks aren’t that big really compared to humans tbh
More broader and maybe a bit taller
queen laurel
How much bigger is a Killa Kan compared to a normal Ork <@783504501561753651> ?
Their around the size of a warboss
Around 10 ft basically
Which makes them pretty dangerous but like
You can take them out with a good anti tank weapon
celest dome
That's a Deff Dread
dusk patrol
Yer a Deff dress
celest dome
Their around the size of a warboss
So would a Killa Kan to an Ork be like an Ogryn to a normal Human ? Size wise
queen laurel
So would a Killa Kan to an Ork be like an Ogryn to a normal Human ? Size wise
A fully grown ogryn is 10 ft
So yeah that can work but Orks vary in size
Compared to humans
dusk patrol
There’s not much of a base height for Orks it depends on the Waggghhh
queen laurel
So would a Killa Kan to an Ork be like an Ogryn to a normal Human ? Size wise
The average height of an ork that is a boy is usually around 6 ft but of course their hunched posture doesn't help their height
dusk patrol
Most normal Waaagghhhhs Orks are pretty meh and easy enough to deal with
celest dome
Good to know
dusk patrol
But once you get to big Waaggghhsss like Ghaz’s or whatever
queen laurel
They constantly grow of course but that's the most average sizes they can be
dusk patrol
That’s when they get a lot better equip and bigger on average
celest dome
Killa Kan would be a great archetype if an Ork lead tide game was to ever happen
queen laurel
Killa Kan would be a great archetype if an Ork lead tide game was to ever happen
It would work i suppose
queen laurel
Killa Kan would be a great archetype if an Ork lead tide game was to ever happen
You can also just make them a bit smaller by like in a lack of supplies or something
dusk patrol
Killa Kans are generally made by pretty big Waaagghhs though
celest dome
They’d probably be elites
Ork as the player side
dusk patrol
Once they start building meks and stuff the group has probably taken off a lot
queen laurel
Killa Kans are generally made by pretty big Waaagghhs though
If it's for an ork tide game i'm pretty sure it's pretty easy to pull out a reason out of your a** on how can you can use one on a strike team
small grail
@crisp heath here
shud work now
@crystal forum @fallen plaza
this is the word file
queen laurel
Ork as the player side
Nobz would probably be the melee class like a zealot or something, and a flashgit could be the range guy
Ask for the unstable psychic, could work for a mek with an overloaded tech mechanic
Where the technology is good but it's so unstable it might explode
Weirboyz don't really do tactical insertions
dusk patrol
Orks also don’t do Killteams really outside of Kommandos
small grail
<@456226577798135808> here
(for context this is the 40,000 points batttle me and my friends made a year ago and this is the lore but this time rogal dorn is the horus basically here)
dusk patrol
So you could hand wave a lot
queen laurel
Orks also don’t do Killteams really outside of Kommandos
You can just reason that Kommandos decided to bring their grot in a tin can to tear open heavy guys, and as for the mek they will take into the field because while yes they make technology they are still orks
celest dome
Nobz would probably be the melee class like a zealot or something, and a flashgi...
Weirdboy would have been my pick for a Psyker like
dusk patrol
I mean yeah
queen laurel
Weirdboy would have been my pick for a Psyker like
Yes but unfortunately like i said they aren't really the type to do tactical insertions but you know you can make it work
dusk patrol
It’s the Ork psyker lol
queen laurel
They're Orks
You can pull up just about any reason you have in your pockets and it will work
celest dome
Orks team vs Tide could easily simply be Orks trying to get their own loot instead of having to follow orders
dusk patrol
Either way the more likely Orktide game is we’re killing the Orks tbh
queen laurel
Orks team vs Tide could easily simply be Orks trying to get their own loot inste...
Yes they could look for more scrap destroy this part of the Tyranid base or something
Loads of stuff
It can genuinely work
crisp heath
dont try on phone
you caught me...
small grail
you caught me...
ye
small grail
this is the word file
@rocky gale check it out its in a word file now
The lore for that fan battle
opaque coyote
Tbh I had an idea
If there was ever a Cain animation
Movie
Whatever
There should be two versions of Cain
Or actors
gray umbra
Commissar cain the broadway show
opaque coyote
One should be like a strong muscular man.
Tall, strong, handsome, etc.
With clothes fitting perfectly, with little to no wrinkles
The other version should still be tall
But also kinda lanky
The clothes should fit poorly
And also he should look like he gets 3 hours of sleep daily
In self narrations or exposition, it should be the lanky version of Cain.
But if we ever switch POVs to other guardsmen or Sulla
We should see the muscular "perfect" version of cain
opaque coyote
How cain feels and talks about himself
It's basically like two extremes
One is so fucking perfect looking and brave that he literally shouldn't be a real being
And the other one is so cowardly that he shouldn't be in the guard
Let alone a Commissar
Both are so over exaggerated that you have to look into it to find the "real" one
plush mason
ngl his impostor syndrome makes a lot of sense give how he is perceived by the wider imperium
opaque coyote
ngl his impostor syndrome makes a lot of sense give how he is perceived by the w...
The Imperium is run on the blood of martyrs
Unfortunately Cain really doesn't want to be one
plush mason
a lot of his legend comes from his blunders so yeah i bet he feels he doesnt deserve it
opaque coyote
His will to actually live is discouraged by Imperium culture as a whole.
But that will, combined with his sense, actually makes him intelligent
He is also the unluckiest luckiest man
plush mason
yup
opaque coyote
a lot of his legend comes from his blunders so yeah i bet he feels he doesnt des...
Tbf he did actually try to desert VERY early into his career only to accidentally make a heroic save and be called a hero.
plush mason
all of that combines to make him think he is a cowered and a fool while the rest of the guard see him as a hero
opaque coyote
But as the books go on chronologically, he actually lives up to his reputation
plush mason
ofc
opaque coyote
Despite how much he says he is a coward. He does some objectively brave things
plush mason
impostor syndrome be like that, poor dude cant see his own worth in the shadow of his own legend
opaque coyote
ofc
There is a fanfic where Cain actually became a Saint. His summoning ritual is to place a cup of Tanna on a shrine.
A part of it had Amberly actually do this prayer, not to worship him. But more like honoring his memory.
Unfortunately she got captured by Trazyn and Saint Cain had to save her.
But when he finally saw that Amberly did the ritual
He depressingly believes that "He even fooled her..."
Despite the fact that in truth, Amberly saw what man he truly was, and loved him anyways.
But Cain can't even comprehend it. Even after his death.
crystal forum
<@456226577798135808> here
read it. i hope there's a sequel one day
undead dorn reigns supreme
evil dorn be like:
i am deconstructing this position
also nurgle dorn makes more sense than i thought
they go well together
shut rune
Me ingesting 40k lore when I know Calladayce Taurovalia Kesh exists. Why do I do this to myself
storm jungle
What about her lol
celest dome
She's cool and based
shut rune
What about her lol
Just feel like I got the rug pulled out from under me is all. Feel like this guys sphere is being taken away from them
forest orbit
Huh?
celest dome
forest orbit
Shes literally a throwaway codex blurb character. And I say this as a macho-wannabe 💀
celest dome
I don't see that one making a long fire
crystal forum
i had to look the name up just to know who that is and it took me 5 seconds to understand
forest orbit
Yeah lol
forest orbit
^
No one is taking your hobby away from you.
Women simply exist, just as much as men does.
If you think like this you wont like much rest of the universe my friend.
crystal forum
Just feel like I got the rug pulled out from under me is all. Feel like this guy...
are you even a custodes player
celest dome
Are you even a TT player
forest orbit
I love how when the reveal happened
all the custodes players were like
"Huh cool, anyway these rules suck."
celest dome
I only know 1 Custodes player that complained about them
But like 4 SM players that did 💀
1 out of 3
And 4 out of 6.5
shadow plover
Only people I know upset about it were weirdos on twitter who don't even play the game
forest orbit
He has like 6 messages on the server, i dont think hes gonna say anything.
celest dome
If he know better he'll avoid
forest orbit
Only people I know upset about it were weirdos on twitter who don't even play th...
It very much boils down to not wanting to see women in power armor.
Also like... the vocal lore-goers not wanting to accept the larger majority of this fandom is tabletop players
shadow plover
couldn't be me
forest orbit
and their opinion does not matter lol
shut rune
If he know better he'll avoid
Only thing to do in these cases 😪
forest orbit
Well yeah its a dumb opinion.
celest dome
Which is ?
forest orbit
"Custodes are ruined because lore retcon"
i dont think he really needs to say it lol
crystal forum
Only thing to do in these cases 😪
just spout your opinion nobody's stopping you man
celest dome
I was here when Kesh was leaked 
opaque coyote
WOMEN EXIST???
NO WAY
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS
NO FEMALE BANANAS IN OUR PURITAN CIRCLE
dusk patrol
Just feel like I got the rug pulled out from under me is all. Feel like this guy...
Just please no jfc
opaque coyote
WHAT'S NEXT
FEMALE BLUEBERRIES??
celest dome
Someone ask Dilara about that rant someone went on when people asked about having Female Ogryn
dusk patrol
Female Custodes discourse is so fucking boring
celest dome
So pointless too
outer wave
Someone ask Dilara about that rant someone went on when people asked about havin...
What happened there?
opaque coyote
Someone ask Dilara about that rant someone went on when people asked about havin...
Honestly I just think that Female Ogyrns look the exact same as male ones
Well to human eyes
outer wave
I imagine female ogryns look vaguely feminine
opaque coyote
To Ogyrns it's so obvious that they think people are stupid
dusk patrol
We don’t know really, we have a couple book descriptions but no art or anything
crystal forum
To Ogyrns it's so obvious that they think people are stupid
this is literally dwarf meme
opaque coyote
Like there are minute details that only Ogyrns and Biologists can ascertain
storm jungle
Who fucking cares
ıf you dont like it dont look at the chat
dusk patrol
ıf you dont like it dont look at the chat
I can also complain and mock people for it
celest dome
What happened there?
On launch some people were asking why there wasn't any female Ogryn in game.
Where the reason is entirely due to GW never revealing what they look like.
Some were claiming that Ogryn female were not used in combat and were serving as broodmother or something
storm jungle
I can also complain and mock people for it
Yeah but you going "who cares" every day about it is about as repetitive.
dusk patrol
And shame them for bringing up this dead horse topic
outer wave
On launch some people were asking why there wasn't any female Ogryn in game.
Whe...
Oh ew
What the fuck
opaque coyote
"Excuse me sir"
"HAHAHA COMMISAH CALLED HER SAH"
"...wait she's a woman?"
"YAH WHAT ARE YOU STUPID???"
outer wave
They're ogryns, not skaven
dusk patrol
Yeah but you going "who cares" every day about it is about as repetitive.
As opposed to female Custodes discourse
Which is so fresh
And new
storm jungle
As opposed to female Custodes discourse
I mean nobody here cares.
You do.
Again, dont like it, dont participate
dusk patrol
Then they can not care while I complain too
celest dome
Honestly I just think that Female Ogyrns look the exact same as male ones
No they don't
At least lorewise people are able to see that they're different
forest orbit
Then they can not care while I complain too
I mean you are annoying about it too.
outer wave
Ogryn with big eyelashes
forest orbit
"Oh my god stop with the topic already"
dusk patrol
Good
forest orbit
but you wont, so its like whatever
opaque coyote
No they don't
At least lorewise people are able to see that they're different
Disappointing but we also never see what they look like
So
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/cute-bunny-tenor-gif-annoyed-gif-17247601
Accurate.
dusk patrol
See this is better discourse
crystal forum
eternal you have to derail the conversation, trying to stop it is futile
green loom
eternal you have to derail the conversation, trying to stop it is futile
I can derail anything
storm jungle
See this is better discourse
dusk patrol
I’m not being sarcastic
outer wave
https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889
He's a fungi, thats why
crystal forum
this is why i post warhammer community stuff
plush mason
Why do this man look like a mushroom
because he IS a mushroom
crystal forum
i dont give a shit about warhammer community stuff i just want to change the convo
opaque coyote
Anyways so we call Custodes Bananas
Ultramarines Blueberries
But what do we call some other chapters
Hmmm
storm jungle
Custodes are Custards
outer wave
Which one is strawberries?
dusk patrol
Anyways so we call Custodes Bananas
Ultramarines Blueberries
But what do we ca...
Salamanders are not allowed in this conversation
For legal reasons
plush mason
Which one is strawberries?
blood angels i guess
opaque coyote
Salamanders are not allowed in this conversation
I mean their armor is green.
dusk patrol
Actually they’re easy, Sallies
celest dome
Grapes
dusk patrol
No its Sallies
outer wave
blood angels i guess
Its that or Emperor's Children, cuz IIRC strawberries are an aphrodisiac?
storm jungle
what the FUCK
opaque coyote
Imperial Fists are pineapples.
storm jungle
opaque coyote
Its that or Emperor's Children, cuz IIRC strawberries are an aphrodisiac?
Yeah but the color doesn't fit
green loom
Anyways so we call Custodes Bananas
Ultramarines Blueberries
But what do we ca...
Blood Ravens get magpies
plush mason
i love it
outer wave
Yeah but the color doesn't fit
Ahhh just deepen the color slightly
opaque coyote
The fuck kinda strawberries are you eating
Chocolate is technically an aphrodisiac also
leaden pilot
adeptus custardes
dusk patrol
Yeah but the color doesn't fit
It doesn’t have to be color based you racists!
outer wave
Its why chocolate covered strawberries are a good romantic combo ladies and gents
green loom
Not really related but I call Terminators "Termites"
opaque coyote
Its why chocolate covered strawberries are a good romantic combo ladies and gent...
I actually don't like chocolate covered strawberries
I like chocolate
I like strawberries
opaque coyote
I just don't like chocolate on my strawberries
outer wave
I actually don't like chocolate covered strawberries
I fuck with it tbh
storm jungle
Yeah but the color doesn't fit
opaque coyote
Because the sweet taste mixes too much with the tartness of the fruit
opaque coyote
I mean I won't like
Refuse it if that makes any sense
But I would prefer just chocolate kisses or something
plush mason
Yeah I fuck strawberrries
dusk patrol
Also I can’t find any reputable source that says strawberries or chocolate are aphrodisiacs
Unless we consult Ye Olde Wives Tales Monthly
opaque coyote
Also I can’t find any reputable source that says strawberries or chocolate are a...
Yeah technically none exists in nature
plush mason
chocolate is a pseudo-aphrodisiac because its been associated with romance for so long
dusk patrol
In which case, make sure to re arrange your furniture kids to keep the spirits out
green loom
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986935709569011722/1278100139197595761/Un...
NOO
dusk patrol
chocolate is a pseudo-aphrodisiac because its been associated with romance for s...
That’s not how that works
plush mason
That’s not how that works
yeah i know, its the only way i could think to explain it
dusk patrol
That being said they are very tasty
opaque coyote
That being said they are very tasty
I am going to be controversial
I don't like dark chocolate
gasp
outer wave
Dark chocolate is goated though.......
opaque coyote
I mean I like my milk chocolate a bit bitter but I don't like dark chocolate
Doesn't mean I won't eat it if it's offered
plush mason
i prefer white chocolate: i know im a heretic
opaque coyote
But I prefer milk
leaden pilot
i prefer white chocolate: i know im a heretic
White chocolate is goated
plush mason
White chocolate is goated
finally someone gets it
dusk patrol
I don't like dark chocolate
No one does
They lie to themselves that they like it more than normal chocolate
outer wave
I like dark chocolate
dusk patrol
Because it’s a bit healthier
outer wave
I never said I liked it more than milk choco
opaque coyote
Because it’s a bit healthier
It's chocolate it isn't healthy
Don't lie about that at least
opaque coyote
Yeah ik
plush mason
tbf i like all types of chocolate, just white is my favorite
leaden pilot
Same
opaque coyote
I was more referring to articles that are like
DARK CHOCOLATE IS SO MUCH HEALTHIER THAN MILK
(REAL)
outer wave
Matcha flavored chocolate would go so hard right now
Actually no, Im still really full
opaque coyote
Actually no, Im still really full
Slaanesh cultists be like
Jk they'd eat until they literally pop
celest dome
DARK CHOCOLATE IS SO MUCH HEALTHIER THAN MILK
Milk is healthy though
crystal forum
the guy hasnt posted yet
opaque coyote
Honestly I kinda want to know how funny it would be to
Write the POV of a normal Hiver accidentally walking into a Chaos Cult meeting
crystal forum
if you have a shitty opinion at least double down on it smh
opaque coyote
Like they got lost and they accidentally turned into a ritual or something
crystal forum
is this place abnormal for a 40k lore channel
opaque coyote
Nah
crystal forum
why do people keep coming here saying the dumbest shit thinking we'll be on their side
opaque coyote
why do people keep coming here saying the dumbest shit thinking we'll be on thei...
Cause 40k
There are only two people who like 40k
Right wing ultra conservatives
Or
arctic talon
what is bro looking at
storm jungle
why do people keep coming here saying the dumbest shit thinking we'll be on thei...
You should have seen it a year or two ago.
opaque coyote
Uhhh
storm jungle
Nazis like every week.
and they all have space marine pfps
or greek statue pfps
lol
crystal forum
You should have seen it a year or two ago.
so im wondering, is this the odd server out??
plush mason
Milk is healthy though
iirc there are recent studies that show it isnt
opaque coyote
and they all have space marine pfps
You know the worst part is that I actually considered making my pfp a fucking SM pfp
plush mason
like it actually weakens bones
opaque coyote
arctic talon
so im wondering, is this the odd server out??
no
storm jungle
You know the worst part is that I actually considered making my pfp a fucking SM...
You can do it and be the opposite of what people expect of you, it makes you better.
crystal forum
they must have somewhere to be shitheads in because they dont even act like trolls they straight up act like we're going to be on their side
arctic talon
Pretty much both the big 40k servers
are funny
around pride month
its like duck hunt
storm jungle
they must have *somewhere* to be shitheads in because they dont even act like tr...
When you dont police/sweep the chuds out they take ground and infest the place. Its why most 40k servers suck.
But uh
storm jungle
the mods of the main big 40k server as Elite says
make the server aquila a rainbow
and watch the chuds fly for hunting
kek
plush mason
its just a bug zapper
crystal forum
When you dont police/sweep the chuds out they take ground and infest the place. ...
so yeah that's what im wondering. is the moderation just shit in other places
arctic talon
They did a funnier thing
where they kept the pride month logo up a while after pride, then changed it to another colored aquilla
and then they watched for people complaining it was still a pride flag
storm jungle
Peak chad moderator behavior lol
storm jungle
so yeah that's what im wondering. is the moderation just shit in other places
Yeah its basically just bad. Or they just dont allow you to talk about these topics and act like it doesnt exist.
arctic talon
its still that color rn
I'm not sure what its supposed to be
I think its the new votann book?
Idfk
the other warhammer discord is still a rainbow
plush mason
I think its the new votann book?
wow you mean the votann are woke? /s
arctic talon
except the colors are wayy too bright and it kind of hurts my eyes
leaden pilot
wow you mean the votann are woke? /s
woketann
arctic talon
arctic talon
crystal forum
it burns
arctic talon
I think if the rest of the like
discsord icon was black
it wouldn't hurt to look at
for extended periods of time lol
crystal forum
it's sad seeing even the meme channels fall for this stuff
crystal forum
like this community is so fucking bad it's hard to even grasp
storm jungle
Unfortunately its the "vocal minority" effect.
crystal forum
i dont even think it's a minority in this community
like the shithead behavior is straight up normalized
leaden pilot
The most people I've seen here, on twitter and in other discord is fine
storm jungle
like the shithead behavior is straight up normalized
Yeah thats a sad reality of it.
green loom
A lot of it straight up through memes ngl
leaden pilot
But man, some people
Some takes
Make me want to not tell people I'm into 40k
green loom
It's ultimately imo lots of ignorant kids for the most part
outer wave
You think a good brunt of them are just parroting someone else?
plush mason
anytime you find "that" side of the community it make being associated with the community less appealing
outer wave
Anime fans
green loom
You think a good brunt of them are just parroting someone else?
Most like tbh
crystal forum
some communities have it worse
leaden pilot
You think a good brunt of them are just parroting someone else?
they are parroting, but not literally
just repeating all the usual chud takes from commentators if someone gay/black/a woman appears in media
crystal forum
40k is definitely one of the worse ones in terms of chudness
outer wave
Okay got a question for you lot: when do you think diverse rep in any form in media would be considered 'phoned in' and 'forced' and when do you guys think it isnt?
storm jungle
40k is definitely one of the worse ones in terms of chudness
I hate it every time 40k fans say they are better than the star wars community when they are essentially the same lol
plush mason
40k is definitely one of the worse ones in terms of chudness
it is a military hobby game at the end of the day, those always attract the chuds sadly
storm jungle
Okay got a question for you lot: when do you think diverse rep in any form in me...
Ghostbusters
outer wave
I forgot all about that movie
crystal forum
any 80's movie that does not require a reboot
green loom
Okay got a question for you lot: when do you think diverse rep in any form in me...
It depends on your stance since the line between "token" and "intentional" blurs
arctic talon
Okay got a question for you lot: when do you think diverse rep in any form in me...
Concord
I'm only half joking
but it feels very boss says we do X so we do X
plush mason
concord was a mistake
storm jungle
Diversity/Pandering is done best when the characters that are great/fun just happen to be not "generic white dude".
Warhammer for example does it excellently.
in AoS, Whf and 40k
green loom
But for a lot of the internet crowd them existing in any meaningful way means "token" lol
storm jungle
^
outer wave
Thats the thing I struggled with years ago
crystal forum
media needs to be good before having a message
plush mason
Warhammer for example does it excellently.
i cant wait for all the racist rage once they see the campaign has a black ultramarine
crystal forum
otherwise the "message" is pure pandering
outer wave
I genuinely wondered where the line was drawn and couldnt tell if something was added because company wants a certain community in, or if they just wanna write about them for the sake of it
storm jungle
Aliens™️ is the best showcase of this.
outer wave
i cant wait for all the racist rage once they see the campaign has a black ultra...
Tbf I think they've seen it already
plush mason
the sergeant also looks kinda Asian to me but im not really sure
storm jungle
yeah no Gadriel is asian
outer wave
He's definitely partly asian at least
gray umbra
It already happened lol
green loom
I genuinely wondered where the line was drawn and couldnt tell if something was ...
The issue is that in most major marketing that's... just how things work
green loom
"Will this sell" is asked before "is it thematic"
How it's handled is a different matter ig
gray umbra
Gadrial is Sgt. Hairgel
plush mason
that fucking skin graft on the side of his head though
crystal forum
im offended that they're ultramarines
arctic talon
apothocaries should look at it
outer wave
How it's handled is a different matter ig
So when higher up say "We want X", so as long as the writers are able to write X in a competent way, it will not come off as pandering?
If not, we end up with a Ghostbusters or sort of a Concord moment
crystal forum
chuds tend to assume a higher up said "we want X" for literally everything
paper haven
Space Marine 2 is....
Pretty good. I like it so far.
plush mason
chuds tend to assume a higher up said "we want X" for literally everything
nah they tend to assume sweet baby told the higher up to say we want x
plush mason
people like them always need a villain for their conspiracies
arctic talon
what the fuck is sweet baby
and why do chuds bitch about it
actually don't tell me
I don't need to konw
plush mason
sweet baby inc and blackstone are the go to targets for them
plush mason
what the fuck is sweet baby
a consulting firm nothing more
crystal forum
it's a company that advises for VIDEO GAMES
and people think they affect FUCKING TABLETOP
outer wave
what the fuck is sweet baby
Its a company that some companies hire for representation purposes within the work place and within their products IIRC
plush mason
yeah
outer wave
I imagine they deal with toxic workplaces but Im not interested in reading more into it
outer wave
and people think they affect FUCKING TABLETOP
I would imagine for that they'd blame Black Rock
plush mason
naturally the chuds blame them for forcing the "woke agenda" into everything
crystal forum
you can literally look up every single project they've been hired to consult on
the list is right there
it's so fucking R word
dusk patrol
It is funny when you read about how much consultants actually matter for so many things and how often movies and games will ignore them to better service the game or movie they're trying to make.
plush mason
also, when the fuck as any company actually listened to the consultants?
dusk patrol
If anything they're probably just getting paid so the studio can slap their logo on their product.
plush mason
they mainly just hire them to be yes men
crystal forum
business consultants can be good
plush mason
oh most of them can be and are, its just the csuits dont listen most times
crisp heath
or greek statue pfps
the funniest thing to me will always be the fact that athenians or romans were so much into femboys, chuds are kinda outing themselves honestly
dusk patrol
The statues of skitarii in Space Marine 2 are of Stygies Skitarii
Wonder if this ties into the uh....late game stuff.
plush mason
you can be the smartest and wisest person on earth and people will still ignore everything you say if you disagree with them
crisp heath
The statues of skitarii in Space Marine 2 are of Stygies Skitarii
why do they make statues of skitarii, they are effectively martial slaves
dusk patrol
Because they're not
Some have less free will than others
But they're very much soldiers
storm jungle
why do they make statues of skitarii, they are effectively martial slaves
They are essentially slaves but they symbolic of mechanicus authority.
crisp heath
you can be the smartest and wisest person on earth and people will still ignore ...
people are not interested in being right, they are interested in appearing and feeling right
plush mason
yup
crisp heath
at least, anyone except academics mostly
and even academics often have an existential interest in being right
snow fern
If I was wrong on some of my more jaded views of people I wouldn’t complain
crisp heath
because if your research is wrong, you won´t get hired anymore. so you need to pretend it´s the hottest shit in town
dusk patrol
I've worked with and met plenty of academics who fall into that trap, especially as soon as they get outside their specific field of study.
plush mason
Wonder if this ties into the uh....late game stuff.
none of the admech in game wear the Stygies colors but i wouldnt put it past them to be involved at least at some point
green loom
dusk patrol
PhDs can be insufferable as soon as they get outside their field becuase they'll often act like their PhD bigves them some sort of knowledge in other fields too which aren't connected.
dusk patrol
none of the admech in game wear the Stygies colors but i wouldnt put it past the...
I mean more the history of the area.
arctic talon
why do they make statues of skitarii, they are effectively martial slaves
Skitarii are somewhat respected, besides everyone in the Mechanicus is practically a slave to their superiors
green loom
the funniest thing to me will always be the fact that athenians or romans were s...
Fr same
Brb getting a statue pfp
green loom
Skitarii are somewhat respected, besides everyone in the Mechanicus is practical...
In the imperium more like
crisp heath
Fr same
Brb getting a statue pfp
😳
plush mason
ofc not, its a british IP made by a british company
dusk patrol
Skitarii vary a lot in their autonomy also, some are much more controlled and restricted while others are basically augmented guardsmen.
arctic talon
In the imperium more like
lol true
I'm generally talking about the stereotypical tabletop skitarii
tbh
crystal forum
do you think GW enforces a british accent rule
crisp heath
Considering its largely what we hear?
i´ve never noticed that i don´t think
plush mason
yeah the vast majority of the accents we hear are UK accents, british scotish and north irish
crystal forum
the non british one
arctic talon
Oh
dusk patrol
The german one?
crystal forum
it's german???
dusk patrol
The crazy neurotic dude?
viral halo
crystal forum
no
plush mason
Jay no
storm jungle
LOL
crystal forum
the other islander sounding guy
crystal forum
sounds islander
viral halo
Got im
dusk patrol
Idk, vaguely african.
crisp heath
wtf is the psyker accent in darktide
that´s like jamaican if we´re thinking of the same one. or maybe it sounds like someone pretending to have a jamaican accent
storm jungle
Nah
crystal forum
does sound sorta jamaican but not fully
storm jungle
jamaican is when you cant understand a word they are saying
best to look where the actor is from
plush mason
ya mon