#40k-lore-chat

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fallen plaza
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Shame they never bother illustrating some of the cool ideas

crystal forum
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tithes

storm jungle
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yeah was released yesterday

dense salmon
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at first i didn't really like the change, but after some time i realized i kind of don't care

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female custodes isn't really a big deal

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i actually forgot about it until i read this

storm jungle
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Pretty much

winter vessel
queen laurel
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I challenge you to a drinking game to find characters on a warhammer book that has more character than dark tide characters and if you can't find you take a shot

storm jungle
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Custodes are the sub-faction of sub-factions

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them having women literally changes nothing

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lol

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people basically just dont like women in power armor

winter vessel
crystal forum
dense salmon
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custodes and astartes are different in that custodes are like an entirely new human race

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compared to astartes who are just genetically enhanced

storm jungle
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warhammer community made a post addressing this funnily enough

winter vessel
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also White Templars, very nice to see those lads.

crystal forum
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you have to know nothing about 40k to think custodes have gene seeds

storm jungle
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but yeah custodians are literally genetically perfected through arcane means, gender has nothing to do with what they are.

Marines are blunt and forced genetic super soldiers that are mass-produced.

crystal forum
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the whole femstodes situation just showed how many 40k "fans" didnt know shit about their own stuff

queen laurel
fallen plaza
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Marines fundamentally wont work if you have females in them due to there culture

dense salmon
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honestly if anything i'm surprised big E didn't make the custodes completely non-sexual

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they're like living perfect golems

storm jungle
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Its not about Big E

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its about people pointing and going "thats a hot muscle man/girl"

crystal forum
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let's be honest he also wanted the custodes to look like chads

storm jungle
storm jungle
crystal forum
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why else would he make them wear gold

storm jungle
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the femtodes in this is like the most gigachad woman ive seen

crystal forum
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gold is not a humble metal

storm jungle
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also yeah he himself jokes aside says custodians are suppose to be the peak human form

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a golem does not add to that

crystal forum
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gold is a fuck you im rich metal

dense salmon
winter vessel
storm jungle
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Yeah but again, peak gigachad and chadette form is superior above all else

winter vessel
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can't argue with that

crystal forum
hallow plover
dense salmon
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yeah to be fair, people will empathize with a character a lot more if they have more human qualities too

queen laurel
hallow plover
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Human perfection

winter vessel
crystal forum
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custodes are barely human. he wanted them to keep their human form as a statement imo

hallow plover
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They're human potential at it's peak

storm jungle
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And doing fucking yoga

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lmao

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OR SEWING

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perfect husband and wife material

crystal forum
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hey when you live 10k years you find ways to pass the time

storm jungle
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we all need hobbies

winter vessel
# storm jungle OR SEWING

don't even give em specially designed knitting kneedles, they use the same size normal humans use.

dense salmon
crystal forum
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astartes might not be immortal but my headcannon is custodes dont even age

storm jungle
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Yeah it is

dense salmon
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if it appears in a codex

storm jungle
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also its the same with marine lore

dense salmon
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it's propaganda

storm jungle
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the codexes say they got no emotions

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then you see Blood Angels having a gala drinking wine

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lmao

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the writers pretty much need the freedom

crystal forum
dense salmon
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you hear about space marines making terrible paintings and joking about them and realize they're still just dudes

crystal forum
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just dudes who also love murdering

hallow plover
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They've still been creating custodians during the 10k years following the heresy right? If so, are the newer custodians "inferior" to the pre-heresy ones?

dense salmon
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all the technology and methods are still there hence why they're able to replenish their ranks

outer wave
hallow plover
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I was wondering because they seem to die a lot and somehow replenish their ranks

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"A lot"

dense salmon
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it's a secret in-universe\

storm jungle
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aka literal scientific mcguffin nonsense

dense salmon
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whatever it is

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it's inherently different than the geneseed process of astartes

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to the point custodes are basically a new species

storm jungle
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Its more intricate and way more advanced yeah.

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also the same reason custodians are taken as literal babies

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compared to marines who are pre-hormonal teenagers

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Custs are changed before they even reach any proper cognitive phase

dense salmon
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it's also probably the reason marines have to be male whereas custodes don't

hallow plover
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And I imagine there are none of the original still on active duty. I think they retire usually when their reflexes are like 0.0001s slower

dense salmon
storm jungle
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^

dense salmon
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constantine valdor is one

storm jungle
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Custodians are not a dying breed either

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they get new recruits on specific occassions

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nobles on terra offer them up on a gate near the palace

hallow plover
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They lost like 2000 custards in a months time on the khornate invasion of terra

storm jungle
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and that is still a tiny ass wiki entry

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probably one of the most hilarious "wait what?" moments in the lore lol

crystal forum
storm jungle
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hes the big bad in the Eisenhorn book

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we just dont know whats gonna happen yet

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since its pre-rift opening

queen laurel
hallow plover
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Is it confirmed?

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We just saw his name

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Or something

crystal forum
hallow plover
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King in yellow

crystal forum
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wait are the eisenhorn books not over?

storm jungle
crystal forum
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im literally reading the omnibus rn

hallow plover
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It's in Bequin

storm jungle
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^

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basically

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uh

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3 Horn books

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Ravenor books

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Bequin

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she has 2 books now, Abnett will get to the 3rd one at some point

crystal forum
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oh so it's sequels

storm jungle
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Yep

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also it took abnett like

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10 fucking years?

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to continue Bequin for book 2

crystal forum
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he has other stuff to do like the end and the mid

storm jungle
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LOL

hallow plover
crystal forum
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imagine being the guy in charge of every big 40k title

storm jungle
crystal forum
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must be nice

storm jungle
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its hard to write a book where character motivations and events actually matter

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compared to 40k where its just slop that doesnt go anywhere

hallow plover
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Got is over and dead and it's a good thing

storm jungle
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its not

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shut up you fucking italian bastard

crystal forum
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i thought he was like me

hallow plover
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Im not italian

outer wave
hallow plover
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Ew

storm jungle
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I do sometimes go like "Wow what a lazy fuck why cant he write a book already"

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then i look at my tabs

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and see the homebrew fiction i put off for 3 weeks

hallow plover
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I've just moved on from GoT

dense salmon
crystal forum
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he should do cocaine like all the cool authors

storm jungle
dense salmon
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i honestly think the reason george is struggling is because he wrote a series that can;t feasibly end

storm jungle
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Yeah this too

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we got 2 more books to go, and hes in his 70's

dense salmon
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and george seems to enjoy worldbuilding more than plot writing

hallow plover
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I've come to terms that grrm will probably die before his next release

storm jungle
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cant blame him

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so do i lmao

crystal forum
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he could give the series to somebody else

storm jungle
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Uhhh

dense salmon
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like ASOIAF has two more books right

storm jungle
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Dune tried that

crystal forum
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doesnt he have grandkids

storm jungle
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and so did LOTR

dense salmon
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but how could you possibly end this story in two books

storm jungle
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we all saw the results

crystal forum
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hey it doesnt always work

storm jungle
crystal forum
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but sometimes it does

hallow plover
storm jungle
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Yeah Dune's treatment was crazy

dense salmon
storm jungle
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"Well my dad is dead, may as well cash in"

winter vessel
fallen plaza
hallow plover
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Tolkien is also rolling in his grave rn

dense salmon
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i only enjoyed the first two dune books

winter vessel
hallow plover
winter vessel
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mhmm

storm jungle
# dense salmon i genuinely don't think it can be done

George's problem is he gives motivations, plots, storylines etc to almost every character like its real life with actual people.

And I kinda respect that commitment, the issue is he himself has admitted this has tied him in a knot, where you realise yeah setting up the politics and motivations of all these characters, kingdoms etc is almost virtually impossible to wrap up properly.

crystal forum
paper haven
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I still haven't watched the first season. Recap?

dense salmon
paper haven
storm jungle
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YEP

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He has a few

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the important characters are just too many

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lol

winter vessel
storm jungle
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yeah but RWBY is trash

dense salmon
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dance also had 16 POV characters

storm jungle
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dense salmon
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not to mention

fallen plaza
dense salmon
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george is also working on prequels

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that further compound some important character motivations and flesh out mysteries prevalent in the main series

storm jungle
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Yep but again its annoying but i completely get it lmao

dense salmon
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like what exactly happened at summerhall will probably appear in blood and fire or one of the dunk and egg novels

storm jungle
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I do that constantly with my worldbuilding/homebrew

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but for a franchise this big its genuinely annoying

dense salmon
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i wouldn't mind if someone took over george's writing

storm jungle
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same

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he also needs an editor that will snap his fingers lol

dense salmon
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because according to him his aids know more about his world than he does

storm jungle
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its the entire reason I hated the final 3 Heresy books

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where Kyme told Abnett to "write as much as you want, dont worry about wordcount"

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and we had a series 3-4 years in the making

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with useless POV chapters

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and not even seeing shit like the emperor get put on the throne

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genuinely crazy

dense salmon
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the worst thing that could happen to asoiaf is it goes forever unfinished and falls into obscurity

storm jungle
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Doubt on the obscurity part

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its community is too dedicated

hallow plover
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End and the Death truly is your bane, Dilara KEKW_ogryn

dense salmon
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i actually like george a lot

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he's pretty humble and has a lot to speak on when it comes to how he writes

storm jungle
storm jungle
fallen plaza
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I remember neil geimens statement when a fan asked about georges next book

storm jungle
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like hes not an asshole at all

dense salmon
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his blog is fun to read

dusk patrol
fallen plaza
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Neil basically just says “he doesnt owe you shit”

dense salmon
storm jungle
fallen plaza
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I wouldnt go that far but oke

dense salmon
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did anyone watch hotd season 2 btw?

dusk patrol
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It’s just a little bit of sexual harassment

storm jungle
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it was alright enough

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people are malding though

dense salmon
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my girlfriend and i watched it and thought season 1 was better

storm jungle
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deffo

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comparing it to S8 is actually crazy

dusk patrol
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It had major issues Dilara is jsut contrarian

dense salmon
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i think season 2 was okay

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i don't think it was bad

storm jungle
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I literally said i didnt like it you fucking cocksu-

dense salmon
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my girlfriend hated it

dusk patrol
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But I enjoyed a lot

storm jungle
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and no it wasnt bad yeah

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its literally just a setup season

dense salmon
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i enjoy political drama a lot

storm jungle
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my problem is people act like this is a big deal

dense salmon
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but season 2 had so much filler

storm jungle
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when the early GOT seasons

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literally ended on massive cliffhangers

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lol

dusk patrol
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I think next season will definitely make or break it

storm jungle
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Yeah this.

hallow plover
dense salmon
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some of the character changes i think aren't for the better

storm jungle
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LIKE THE GAME?

dusk patrol
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Cause if they’re apparently gonna fuck some stuff up that it’s implied they’re planning on

dense salmon
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like in the book rhaenyra and alicent are both unapologetically vindictive spiteful people

hallow plover
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I hope the WB attacked calth more than one time 10k years ago

dusk patrol
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And was in stasis for that long

storm jungle
hallow plover
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Oh yea, primaris were in stasis

dusk patrol
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One of the Unnumbered Sons

storm jungle
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when she fed literaly dozens of people to dragons

fallen plaza
hallow plover
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Forgot about that one

dusk patrol
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They come from a lot of different time periods

dense salmon
storm jungle
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YEAH

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i think the issue is the actress legit is great at her job

dense salmon
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my problem with the show is that it pulls its punches

storm jungle
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so people are like "aw shes a sweetie"

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like no dude lmao

dense salmon
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it wants you to sympathize with every bad choice

storm jungle
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Yeah this.

dense salmon
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when some things are not justifiable

storm jungle
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Im very much in a "let them cook" mood atm

hallow plover
storm jungle
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if the next season ends up being goated then it will make up for S2

fallen plaza
storm jungle
gray umbra
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People need someone to root for

hallow plover
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So everyone can identify to assholes

gray umbra
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Most people at least

dense salmon
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like in season 1 i think rhaenyra genuinely barely has a leg to stand on with most of what she does

fallen plaza
dense salmon
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faking her husband's death so she can marry her uncle was plain evil imo

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at least she didn't murder laenor i guess?

storm jungle
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"Man the showmakers show the Blacks as such nice people."

Cue Daemon smashing his bride's skull in with a rock after crippling her

dense salmon
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something i will say

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is i do appreciate how they characterize daemon

storm jungle
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Same, Matt Smith does a great job lol

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hes such a cunt

dense salmon
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george really wanted daemon to be one of those guys who is either satan or the nicest man on earth depending on who you ask

outer wave
dense salmon
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so to the velaryon army, daemon probably is the coolest guy ever for the shit he pulled against the crabfeeder

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but in the vale, he's the blackest villain

hallow plover
dense salmon
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and in season 2, they don't hide how much the riverlords hate him

storm jungle
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when that Tully boy Oscar gets him to comply to his demands i was laughing like an evil bitch KEKW_ogryn

fallen plaza
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The mark of chaos in question

dusk patrol
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I do think they’re not making the blacks evil enough especially with what they do in the books and I’m definitely concerned with some of the later stuff but we’ll see

dense salmon
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i think the prophecy thing he was shown was kind of cool but also kind of ruins a lot of the mystique his character had

outer wave
dusk patrol
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They’ve started to make Rhenyra more evil

hallow plover
storm jungle
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yeah again im on the "let them cook" boat, i wanna see what they do since this entire season was largely just setups for the next stuff

hallow plover
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Obligatory loyalist titus

dusk patrol
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Also, no Fat Rheanyra smh

dense salmon
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the show is nowhere near as bad as the final seasons of GOT

dusk patrol
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Pathetic

dense salmon
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it's flawed for sure

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even season 1 was flawed

storm jungle
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Yeah calling it bad as S8 is legit the braindead take

dusk patrol
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Yeah it’s disappointing and could have been condensed and added more to but

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Its what it is

dense salmon
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hotd season 2 did have quite a few moments that made me roll my eyes

rocky gale
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Season 2 of HotD is not Season 8 GoT bad

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It's Season 5 GoT bad

dense salmon
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the luigi's haunted mansion memes were funny

rocky gale
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Well

storm jungle
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What i hate is people ask for political talking scenes, and the moment they get them they bitch that theres no dragon action.

rocky gale
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Slightly better than Season 5

dense salmon
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season 5 is flawed but has a lot of cool moments

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high highs but really low lows

storm jungle
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also as ever the actors carry it

dense salmon
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same with season 2 of hotd

storm jungle
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Otto's entire outburst at Aegon was

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PEAK

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"The fuck did you say?"

dense salmon
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HE'S WORSE THAN A FOOL

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HE'S MURDERED INNOCENT MEN!

storm jungle
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"THIS... THIS PRANK."

rocky gale
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I am of two minds on that Otto scene

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On one hand it's great

dense salmon
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and what... has ser criston done, exactly?

storm jungle
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LMFAO god

bleak acorn
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🧀

storm jungle
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Cuckston Cole 💀

rocky gale
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On the other hand, it's kind of weak on depth

dense salmon
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as funny as aegon II is

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i think the show does him a disservice

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he wasn't a bad king in the book

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bad person? yeah

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bad king? no

rocky gale
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He wasn't a rapist in the book either

storm jungle
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I think it does it great

dusk patrol
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Also I will die on the hill that the Rheanyra and Alicent talking scene at the end is stupid as fuck beyond belief

dense salmon
rocky gale
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It's implied by Mushroom

dense salmon
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ACCORDING TO MUSHROOM at least

dusk patrol
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Like jfc think

storm jungle
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Aegon actually trying to be a decent king and then just giving up is also a bit too close to real life lol

dense salmon
rocky gale
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Who implied that Jace gave Lady Arryn head in order to gain a truce

storm jungle
rocky gale
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and that Lord Beesbury died by slipping on a banana peal and falling out the window

storm jungle
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LMAO

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bro Lord Beesbury did not deserve that shit

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💀

dense salmon
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i choose to believe the truth is somewhere in the middle in hotd

rocky gale
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A true Hero

dense salmon
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the more witnesses, the more credible

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but if the septon and mushroom agree on a small detail

rocky gale
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Lord Beesbury fought for his Queen until his final Buzz

dense salmon
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i tend to believe that small detail

storm jungle
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that is up there with uh

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Aemond just leaning towards Alicent

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and going

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"Go back to the kitchen slut"

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💀

dense salmon
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for a minute

storm jungle
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a true sigma dragon

dense salmon
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at first i didn't really like how the show handled aemond as the prince regent

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but now i sort of realize it's in character

storm jungle
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also its the actor

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he legit carries it

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he literally looks like an evil fantasy elf lol

dense salmon
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every last piece of dialogue from aemond in the book is just oozing with smarm and angst

rocky gale
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Aemond's action atleast aligns with a running theme of the show where men of power will "Protect" the women they care about by removing them from the choices which effect them the most.

dense salmon
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like yeah he's badass

storm jungle
dense salmon
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but he's also an emotionally immature psycho

storm jungle
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that scene was some PRIME cunt'ery

rocky gale
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Like how Viserys lies to Aemma about the procedure, he's "Protecting her" from the truth, while ordering her to be butchered

dense salmon
storm jungle
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okay you got me

dense salmon
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i'm ngl

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when aemond was arguing with his mom and helaena

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about helaena riding dreamfyre into battle

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he does this thing where he like

dusk patrol
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The Alicent/Rheanyra thing also really should have become way more vitriolic by now

rocky gale
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and Daemon "protects" Rhaenyra from the plot to kill Aemond

dense salmon
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pulls an office-stare-at-camera moment

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and i'm not sure if it was meant to be comedic

dusk patrol
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Also Aemond is the only one not being a dumbass and acting like they’re fighting for their lives

dense salmon
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but it was so fucking funny

storm jungle
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I agree lmao

dense salmon
storm jungle
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^

dense salmon
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but like

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you lose all pathos for aemond

rocky gale
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Yea not a fan of what they did with Helaena in the last half of the season

storm jungle
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Aemond is smart but does harsh decisions

dense salmon
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when he randomyl burns down villages out of anger

storm jungle
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yeah but like

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thats classic targaryen nonsense

dense salmon
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yes

storm jungle
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so i was fine with it lmao

rocky gale
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Like they just completely flip the scope of her powers without any explanation

dense salmon
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aemond is objectively team green's best leader

rocky gale
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Like until this point she gives cryptic warnings that even she doesn't understand, she just knows that she has to warn people about them. Then suddenly she's just giving exact callouts with dates and coordinates

dense salmon
dusk patrol
dense salmon
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i can see how her bizarre behavior would appear like madness to historians

dusk patrol
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She does fuck all in the book

dense salmon
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is helaena in the book

bleak acorn
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??

dense salmon
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i actually don't think she did kill herself in the book though

rocky gale
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Books only really mention her being popular with the smallfolk, being a mum and sometimes advising Aegon during small council meetings

dusk patrol
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They don’t really show her grieving much either in the show which doesn’t help or give her much screen time

rocky gale
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Yea they've been really weird with screentime this season

dusk patrol
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Thank goodness we used that valuable time to show Alicent in the forest and swimming though

rocky gale
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Like Alicent has way too much screentime for a character who's arc has effectively ended

dense salmon
rocky gale
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and is no longer relevant to the story

crystal forum
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yup guess im not getting in early

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dense salmon
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Helaena does give a soliloquy about feeling sad but confused by her emotions

dusk patrol
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Yeah she gets a bit but

fallen plaza
dusk patrol
winter vessel
plush mason
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im confused, are yall talking about humans elves or dragons rn? not seen any HOTD mind

rocky gale
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We're talking about Targaryen incest babies

plush mason
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so humans?

dusk patrol
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Dragons, Targaryen’s are basically elves in this world in general feel

rocky gale
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and which inbred should be King

dusk patrol
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But they’re still human

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Just, weird and different

plush mason
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ok

rocky gale
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Yea Targaryens are humans, but like the rest of the world view them as being closer to gods

dusk patrol
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They also do a lot of incest

hallow plover
plush mason
dusk patrol
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Of all the incest in the series

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They’re like 80% of it

dense salmon
dusk patrol
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The rest is Jamie/Cersei and Crastor

dense salmon
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Kind of like starks and northerners being werewolf coded

plush mason
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so like, in HOTD the dragons actually talk?

dense salmon
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No

plush mason
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ok

crystal forum
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it says when i bought the thing that it might not apply in canada lol

dusk patrol
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Did you buy the standard edition?

crystal forum
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no, ultra

hallow plover
crystal forum
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alright restarting then

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thank you for restoring my faith in space marines eternal

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it works now

bleak acorn
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nice

dusk patrol
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Jay how did you not just turn it off and on again

crystal forum
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also very surprising that the game is only 64 GB

dusk patrol
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You work with computers

crystal forum
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i do not work with computers

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i work with eletronics

storm jungle
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mines ready to go

storm jungle
crystal forum
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if it has more memory than an arduino im lost

hallow saddle
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64 gigglebytes to download smh

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(smh cause my net is slow)

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cant wait brothers

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cant wait to represent ||Iron Hands Clan Garrsak|| on the field of battle

crystal forum
hallow saddle
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yeah it totally is haha

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my net is cringe

storm jungle
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Im stuck on a black screen

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😩

crystal forum
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update drivers

storm jungle
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bruh

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nvm there we go

crystal forum
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do not sue us if you die

storm jungle
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LMAO

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gaming moment

spring cairn
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the intro of the game will make you happy

winter vessel
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k. so i completed the intro, granted i died once on normal, still trying to get used to the parry system.

crystal forum
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dude the menu music

winter vessel
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i took a few minutes to take it in

crystal forum
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whatever

winter vessel
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hah, been a while since i seen that

queen laurel
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haha

crystal forum
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this is the menu music

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winter vessel
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I like how when you got into settings, the first tab is "game" and among the three categories is "Helmet Visibility". they knew exactly what I wanted.

bleak acorn
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show off being bald

dense salmon
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Can't play until tonight cause of work

shadow plover
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Found the Steam forum users

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winter vessel
rocky gale
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I am too busy downloading more important things

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crystal forum
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how do you link your warhammer+ account to the game

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i want the other pistol

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before even starting to play

shadow plover
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WH+ stuff usually comes with a code from them

rocky gale
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Oh shit

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I may have deleted my email with the code

winter vessel
#

that's rough

queen laurel
shadow plover
#

not sure if it has been sent out yet

bleak acorn
shadow plover
#

can't recall seeing one yet

queen laurel
#

it's patch 7

crystal forum
rocky gale
#

Yes Patch 7 time Babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

shadow plover
#

ye

crystal forum
#

alright thx

queen laurel
#

now that they have that

rocky gale
#

I'm just hoping we can now get a decent mod manager

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That doesn't require a script extender, modifying game files and an external ap and whatever other nonsense

queen laurel
#

vortex works mostly well but

#

eh it's also a a bit finicky to figure

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

helmet visibility is a tough choice

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i want to see those faces moving

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but the helmet...

queen laurel
queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Yess

winter vessel
#

Yeah. like I said, Mother Hen Mode is gonna be in full effect in this story

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arctic talon
# queen laurel

I can’t wait to hear Auntie Ethel be racist to Warforged

#

She literally has voicelines for warforged/construct races lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Then again how the hell does a warforged get tadpole

queen laurel
wintry scarab
#

Who pilots space marine stuff? Like a thunderhawk. Would it be just a normal human pilot or a space marine?

rocky gale
crystal forum
#

holy shit deathwatch present

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firstborn too

arctic talon
fallen plaza
#

Recently remembered this old vid i made

crystal forum
#

some astartes use human serfs

rocky gale
crystal forum
#

others like the iron wolves in the fall of cadia book dont even let a guardsman enter a predator so she has to ride on top

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very odd moment in the book

fallen plaza
#

Be like khan

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Surf the vehicle

crystal forum
#

rip hydras

image.png
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gone too soon

arctic talon
#

They’ve been there for a while

dusk patrol
vocal drum
#

question wtf are chaos space marines are they even flesh and blood? saw in the trailer for space marine 2, a chaos space marine being torn apart but his body was like all diff colors and blood wasent even red, whats up with that?

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it was like more like light

dusk patrol
#

Once you get done with your training and become a tactical you’re supposed to be able to be able to use all weapons and fly/drive all chapter vehicles

arctic talon
dusk patrol
hallow plover
arctic talon
#

They got turned to dust

bleak acorn
#

"all is dust"

arctic talon
#

But for most csm they’re fleshy beings

dusk patrol
#

It’s a whole thing

arctic talon
#

The thousand sons tried to stop their flesh change curse

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And while it did “work”

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It also turned 90% of the legion into dust

vocal drum
#

Rubricae, are the spectral remnants of those Astartes of the Thousand Sons Traitor Legion who are now trapped within their suits of ancient Power Armour as mindless automatons. Remorseless, implacable foes, the Rubric Marines are forever cursed.

bleak acorn
#

blame ahriman

vocal drum
hallow plover
#

Rubrik marines' whole thing is being dusty losers

arctic talon
#

Thanks tzeentch

vocal drum
#

wtf didnt even know THAT existed in 40k

#

thats so crazy

arctic talon
#

Also their bolters fire off like

hallow plover
#

Everything exists in 40k

arctic talon
#

warp fire covered shit

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Their bolters fucking hurt in lore

bleak acorn
#

cat girls exist in warhammer

dusk patrol
#

Like finding you some bitches

crystal forum
#

literally me pogging at every guard vehicle in the game

#

im easily entertained

vocal drum
crisp heath
arctic talon
#

We’re nerds

arctic talon
hallow plover
arctic talon
#

Like the ||heavy artillery carriage||

dusk patrol
#

Guard guy, didn’t even know about Mordians

crisp heath
arctic talon
vocal drum
crystal forum
arctic talon
#

To stop the flesh change curse

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It did work

dusk patrol
#

It’s a whole thing

crisp heath
arctic talon
#

It just was a massive fucking monkeys paw

dusk patrol
#

It dates back to the Horus heresy

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Great crusade technically to explain it all

vocal drum
#

well on it now kek

dusk patrol
#

The important thing is they’re all former marines of the Thousand Sons legion who either had no psychic power or very little

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The reform their bodies using a ritual if needed, it takes awhile though, but that’s how they’re still around

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Well “bodies”

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

Only the more powerful psykers did yeah

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It also made them stronger

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We don’t have clear numbers but it seems the vast majority of the legion turned to dust

arctic talon
queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

From psykers

queen laurel
#

do they just like kidnap a space marine and turn him into sand

arctic talon
#

Recruit recruit powerful psykers

dusk patrol
#

They don’t recruit more rubrics

arctic talon
#

They don’t need more rubicae

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Rubicae can never die

queen laurel
#

oh shit

dusk patrol
#

They can reform and remake them as needed

arctic talon
#

Just do a ritual to resummom them

hallow plover
#

Read on thousand sons Helbrutes 🙂

outer wave
#

And the Rubicae can be remade by remaking the Rubric of Arhiman ritual but on a smaller scale

#

Helbrute IIRC are tricked into them

snow fern
#

So how many Thousand Sons didn't getting dusted?

dusk patrol
#

Helbrutes they trick other marines

dusk patrol
outer wave
arctic talon
dusk patrol
#

Seems there’s a few thousand sorcerers from that era if that

snow fern
#

Damnit Ahriman

dusk patrol
#

They do still recruit too

outer wave
#

Hey, Ahriman tried

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I think

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He probably did

dusk patrol
#

He’s a dumbass but he did try

hallow plover
#

Ahriman is trying to reverse the dusting in each of his books

crystal forum
#

wtf are these things

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arctic talon
#

Heavy bolter

crystal forum
#

goofy heavy bolters

arctic talon
#

Gun emplacement

dusk patrol
#

Jay

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You’re the guard dude

fallen plaza
#

That is not quite bolter

crystal forum
#

they are not standard

fallen plaza
#

What the hell is that

crystal forum
#

look at it

vocal drum
#

a space marine could hold that with one hand lol

arctic talon
#

It’s a weird fucking bolter

arctic talon
#

Shits bulky

rocky gale
crystal forum
#

holes in the barrel??

arctic talon
#

Idfk

#

Forgeworld temu made it

hallow plover
#

It's a stub-heavy bolter

bleak acorn
#

forgeworld temu should blow up

arctic talon
#

Forgeworld Wish will take its place fool

dusk patrol
#

They added gas ports to increase the flim flam factor

bleak acorn
#

nooooo!

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

They can it’s just awkward

#

Heavy bolters aren’t that heavy really

arctic talon
#

Heavy bolters are awkward as fuck to hold

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Is the big thing

dusk patrol
#

It’s just better to hold it that way for accurate fire

fallen plaza
#

Sort of related

queen laurel
#

i forgot

fallen plaza
#

But i always liked how they angled the handles on heavy weapons

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Like the HH heavy bolters

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I know its obviously because of the limitations of the model

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But i think its probably a more comfortable way to hold an underslung weapon

crystal forum
#

bolters being expensive and rare while heavy bolters being as cheap as dirt for militarum is one of those weird things i never got

winter vessel
#

man, i forgot how awesome the executions look

arctic talon
#

Also we’re seeing the best of the best regiments

snow fern
#

If what I've heard about carrying the grenade launchers on the field is true, not sure I'd wanna be on bolter duty

arctic talon
#

Not the 99th knuckle draggers

crystal forum
#

most regiments get heavy bolters im pretty sure

arctic talon
#

Prolly

#

But heavy bolters are easier to make iirc

#

The manufacturing is easier

crystal forum
#

yeah PDF get heavy stubbers but that's very low bar

arctic talon
#

Bolt pistols are the hardest

#

Of the common bolt varieties to make

vocal drum
#

Magnus is an asshole 🖕🏿

snow fern
#

I imagine a handgun that doesn't fall apart from that amount of force needs to be well made

woven sandal
#

I'd assume heavy bolters would be harder to make, but also the most necessary.

crystal forum
snow fern
#

ah

woven sandal
#

Like, you can substitute bolters and bolt pistols, but if you need to suppress a group of space marines or nobs, a heavy bolter is the only thing that will do.

crystal forum
#

heavy bolter is basically used as an automatic grenade launcher by the guard

snow fern
#

A sniper in a cheeky spot could probably also help with marines

arctic talon
#

We never got an explanation

fallen plaza
#

Exp atkin

woven sandal
crystal forum
#

autocannons are cheaper so you'd think they would be the "standard" but it's all tabletop reasons

arctic talon
#

Auto cannons are also heavier

#

lol

paper haven
#

So what's the word on Space Marine 2?

arctic talon
#

Idk seems decent

gray umbra
#

Apparently pretty good

crystal forum
#

it's exactly what we expected

arctic talon
#

I’m not buying it for a while

#

It looks like space marine 1 but better

#

More of the same

gray umbra
#

Im tempted for the short term thrill but probably shouldnt buy into the early access

arctic talon
#

Just wait

gray umbra
#

Yeah thats the smart thing to do

winter vessel
#

I'm gonna spend a lot of time doing training in SM2, gotta improve my combos and timing

storm jungle
#

people just hyped it up as like the next AAA game lol

winter vessel
#

Concord gets shut down and SM2 joins the fight

crystal forum
bleak acorn
#

valorant looks better than concord, lol

gray umbra
#

Still waiting on stalker 2 chadgryn

storm jungle
#

people getting mad at the PCGamer review is so fucking funny

bleak acorn
#

can't wait for mechanicus 2

storm jungle
#

same

#

necron gaming

dusk patrol
#

Imagine caring about game journalists in 2024

#

Or ever tbh

rocky gale
#

I'll be waiting on SM2 tbh

paper haven
rocky gale
#

Maybe for a sale

queen laurel
bleak acorn
#

journalists used to be cool

paper haven
#

Should I be mad too?

dusk patrol
#

You’re letting an English major on his tenth career choice dictate your mood

storm jungle
#

the points raised on the review are also pretty fair

paper haven
gray umbra
#

Yeah its not a bad game but its nothing crazy

paper haven
dusk patrol
#

If you like 40k it’s gonna be a lot more appealing

paper haven
#

Well, I do like 40k

dusk patrol
#

If you’re a games journalist who has to churn through fifty games a year or more it’s gonna be generic probably or meh

bleak acorn
#

you would think they'll be atleast decent at playing games

snow fern
#

I don't recall ever taking journalists seriously, they gave Explorers of Sky such poor ratings

winter vessel
#

eh, PCGamer's gotta habit of sucking a golden titty for easy money if it means getting paid to criticize or falsify information on a game

paper haven
#

I have not had a high opinion of games journalism for a very long time

spring cairn
#

they should hire me as a game journalist and all of my reviews would either be

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"decent"

#

or

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"it's dogshit"

paper haven
#

My gimmick will be finding reasons to enjoy playing the game

bleak acorn
#

what kind of person watches or reads a game journalist?

queen laurel
# spring cairn "decent"

and let me guess if it allows you to manipulate humans for war for human wave tactics you will give it a 10 out of 10

spring cairn
#

no 10s

#

only decent

winter vessel
spring cairn
#

space marine 2 drinking game

#

take one shot of hard liquor every time you hear "brother"

gray umbra
#

Xenos

snow fern
#

BROTHER I AM PINNED HERE

gray umbra
#

Scum

shadow plover
#

you can choose to say random voice lines

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gray umbra
#

Thats cool

snow fern
#

The Codex Astartes does not approve of this action

fallen plaza
#

Titus better have a vacuum capsule line

snow fern
#

I think if Space Marine 2 was just the first half of SM1 with the hordes of orks, it woulda been a good game

#

Tyrannids make great fodder, but lack personaility

#

and it sounds like CSM are still annoying to fight

queen laurel
#

@arctic talon finally Fish

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rocky gale
#

Fiiiiiisshhhh

arctic talon
#

Lol

celest dome
#

Wait from mod or official ?

arctic talon
#

Mod

celest dome
#

Oh make sense

arctic talon
queen laurel
rocky gale
#

But they did make a change to the game

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

You can now summon Kuo-Toa to help in the final fight

queen laurel
surreal nest
arctic talon
#

Makloompha

surreal nest
#

also the same people downplaying how fucking bad the performance is

snow fern
#

What sort of computers do game devs test specs on?

#

like something a whole 3 people got?

rocky gale
#

They're borrowing the Nasa computers

surreal nest
#

yeah and not even the console ports are getting above 45 fps in fights lol

spring cairn
#

i kept saying i'm 100% sure performance will be dogshit

#

and they laughed at me

paper haven
#

I doubt NASA computers are even that good for gaming

rocky gale
#

I think they're saying you need a 3070 to run 1080p at 60 frames

arctic talon
#

I’m turning graphics all the way down lol

surreal nest
#

I got a mid range PC and I can't get above 50 fps on all low maximum performance FSR and lower than 1080p res

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snow fern
#

I guess there's still that Starship Troopers co op shooter for fighting bugs, they recently made it so the bugs corpses can make ramps over battlements like in the movie

surreal nest
#

CPUS are overheating like mad allegedly

rocky gale
#

My CPU is going to explode I know it

crystal forum
#

me finally having a justification to get a water cooled I7

spring cairn
#

never get into horde shooters

#

they all cpu heavy

rocky gale
#

Uhh

spring cairn
#

worst genre

snow fern
#

Damn, shame I already bought Darktide

rocky gale
#

I've needed a new computer for years anyway

#

Time to save

crystal forum
surreal nest
#

I mean somehow SM2 is running worse than Darktide on launch

#

and imo sm2 looks leagues worse than darktide

crystal forum
#

yeah the graphics are not very groundbreaking

spring cairn
#

the only horde shooter who ever ran good for me is hd2

#

funnily enough

surreal nest
#

WWZ runs really good for me and that's about it

#

and Vt2 i guess

snow fern
#

welp, at least the annoying people got their space marine game, means they'll shut up about it here ||the fuck they will lmao||

spring cairn
#

vt2 runs worse than dt for me

#

because why not fuck it

surreal nest
#

i think your PC has evil syndrome

spring cairn
#

it knows who's the better tide game

surreal nest
#

honestly yeah i hate 40k comparatively

spring cairn
#

(darktide is)

paper haven
#

I bought a new computer last year and already it needs updating

opaque coyote
#

GOLLUM SWEEP!!

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dusk patrol
#

It’s my turn to post the meme next

paper haven
#

Wait wut

dusk patrol
#

One critic didn’t like the game much, who cares

#

They’re not even the same dude

hallow plover
paper haven
#

No way those numbers are accurate

dusk patrol
#

They are

surreal nest
dusk patrol
#

It’s not the same reviewer though

fallen plaza
#

This is why number scoring systems are gay

paper haven
surreal nest
#

LMFAO

opaque coyote
#

Very funny to see

#

Generally despite the score they did actually bring up some fair points

hallow saddle
#

ive been looing at twitter today out of morbid curiosity

#

and the chuds have been going absolutely fucking ballistic

vocal drum
#

god tyranids are so dumb

#

need to be squished and kicked out the milky way

opaque coyote
#

Somebody summarized the review:

Boring, repetitive gameplay that gets old fast - I've seen other reviews echo the same thing.

Very few execution animations, ||rubric marines for example only have two executions, and because this is your main way of mitigating damage, you're going to get tired of them fast,|| and it means the gameplay loop turns into running around looking for flashing red foes to perform the same animations on.

Later game throws too many elite foes at you, this removes the "power fantasy" of gunning down swarms, and separates itself from what the developer is good at, exposing lots of cracks in the combat system.

AI squadmates opt to stun foes rather than killing them, to give the player the final kill. More often results in the player having to babysit their squad mates for the whole campaign (Because they have health and can be taking down).

Long range combat is pointless, because the gameplay relies too much on the previously mentioned repetitive executions, this disincentivizes having fun with the variety of weapons available.

Inconsistent parry mechanic to protect yourself from damage, telegraphs are sometimes not present, easy to miss, or have a huge flashing intrusive indicator.

Encounter design is repetitive and involves a lot of standing around for bars to fill up, babysitting inanimate objects, and having to do the arbritary "wait for all your squad mates to return to you" at every checkpoint.

Weak final act of the story, feeling more like "noise" than a conclusion to the narrative setup previously. ||The involvement of the Thousand Sons is barely explained, they're two-dimensional, and not as fun to fight as the Tyranids.||

the dedicated coop mode is lacking in content, it's six missions are short and not very fun to replay, and the issues with the combat system become even more pronounced in a mode dedicated to it, and apparently end with a "Oh, I guess that was the end?" feeling.

gray umbra
#

The final boss in sm1 was kind of lame too

#

Qte falling sequence

opaque coyote
#

Generally it seems to have the same flaws as SM1 tbh

gray umbra
#

🤮

opaque coyote
queen laurel
opaque coyote
queen laurel
#

that is a bio titan

opaque coyote
#

Reminds me of cloverfield

rocky gale
opaque coyote
rocky gale
#

I want a 40k Dynasty Warriors Empires game

opaque coyote
#

Warhammer 40k Souls-like where you play as a regular perpetual

#

Actually that sounds fun

#

Would probably be closer to Bloodborne tbh

#

Cause gun

surreal nest
#

Lmfao the game runs bad even on the 4080 plan for nivida geforce now

#

Jesus dude

opaque coyote
surreal nest
#

Yeah

#

Adding to the negative review posted

opaque coyote
#

I have a Super 2060 and can only run Darktide at like

#

Low

#

Well I can on Medium but I don't want my PC to melt

rocky gale
#

Really?

opaque coyote
#

Tbf I think I only have like 16 GB of ram so that doesn't hekp

rocky gale
#

I'm running Darktide fine on a 1650 Super

opaque coyote
rocky gale
#

Well by fine I have to close literally everything else and just play the game

opaque coyote
gray umbra
#

Inquisitor soulslike

opaque coyote
#

I mean tbh a Souls-like would fit 40k very well

#

Often times the souls games take place in a hopeless situation

#

And the endings are usually pointless

#

And in the case of one offs/DS3

#

Bittersweet at best

#

It fits 40k perfectly

crystal forum
#

40k hive city management

bleak acorn
#

tzeentch roguelike >:)

storm jungle
#

game is pretty well optimized

#

but holy fuck with the large horde setpieces it shits the bed harder than darktide lmao

#

theres no way you can optimize that many nids on screen but its not too bad

surreal nest
#

im sub 60 fps on the 4080 plan for nivida

dusk patrol
#

Ive seen people get better fps from max on 3080s, it might be you need to adjust something

surreal nest
#

my friend cant even run it and hes matching the required (anecdotal)

#

i mean im on medium with dsr

#

its just unoptimized

dusk patrol
#

Idk, all I’m saying is I know plenty of people running it fine with much lesser rigs, it might just be a you thing

surreal nest
#

yeah but you're describing unoptimization

winter vessel
#

i have the same specs as you, and its optimized for me

dusk patrol
#

Or I’m describing someone having issues and blaming the game when it seems largely people aren’t having problems

#

Especially that extreme for those specs

#

And it might be you need to adjust some stuff, because it’s a PC game and this happens

surreal nest
#

have you actually checked if other people are having issues or

#

cuz ive seen plenty

dusk patrol
#

Yes I have

#

This happens for every game release, especially these kinda games, some people have issues cause it’s a PC game and there’s a ton of weird interactions

#

I know people who had 3090s when Darktide came out getting worse performance than me with a 2070 super

rocky gale
#

It's also before release day

#

There will be a day one patch

#

This has been a thing since like Mass Effect Andromeda did it's play early preorder thing

surreal nest
#

Thats fair

dusk patrol
#

The sky isn’t falling, it sucks but that’s how it is, might be a good idea to refund for now

#

And wait and see

#

I had the same issue with Starfield day 1

surreal nest
#

i never said the sky was falling im having fun lmfao

#

i just added to it

#

it does kinda suck having to pay 20 dollars a month to play the game because my PC isnt enough but its fine

crystal forum
#

the whole gameplay feels very console-y

surreal nest
#

i mean the game also isnt even getting above 40 fps on consoles either lol (in combat)

crystal forum
#

now that might be bad for their sales

#

consoles are the real money makers

surreal nest
#

i imagine most console players will use the 30 fps mode but yeah i was disappointed for sure

dusk patrol
#

Console games as a baseline do 30 often yeah

crystal forum
#

is that really the current standard

#

god damn

surreal nest
#

you could tell they weren't going to hit 60 when the devs said "up to 60 fps" lol

#

unlocked fps on console is so bad

crystal forum
#

and it's not even late in the current console gen

#

that's just sad

rocky gale
#

Oh yea, we're now going to get a wave of streamers who don't know 40k playing this on stream and having people in chat giving them incorrect lore

crystal forum
#

does that matter

rocky gale
#

Yes

crystal forum
#

to us at least

dusk patrol
surreal nest
dusk patrol
#

Pain

crystal forum
winter vessel
#

its gonna be fuckin hilarious to see them get everything wrong

dusk patrol
surreal nest
#

"there's actually orks in the game they're just purple!"

#

HEHEHEH!!H!H!H!

rocky gale
#

I just saw a guy telling a streamer about "Astartes Custodes" who are bigger space marines that use the Emperors Geneseed

winter vessel
#

HAHA

dusk patrol
#

I try not to think about it

outer wave
#

Emperor seed....

winter vessel
#

streamer: "so when do we fight this Horus guy?"

crystal forum
#

people introducing 40k with HH lore is a big blunder

#

you have to start with the simple stuff

hallow saddle
#

i 100% agree

arctic talon
#

Stop

rocky gale
#

"The Tyranids should be more animalistic, why is that one standing upright and using a sword"

arctic talon
rocky gale
#

Because it's a Tyranid Warrior

arctic talon
#

Bro is not aware

#

Tyranids are fucking smart lol

#

They’re vicious

outer wave
winter vessel
rocky gale
#

It's not the streamer

#

It's chat

#

But I'm watching Ray

outer wave
#

Ooof

arctic talon
#

Kill chat

#

Chat has brain damage

outer wave
#

Kill that man

rocky gale
#

Like bro's literally got an extra brain bug on his back

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arctic talon
#

Custodes literally don’t use geneseed I don’t even get how people get that wrong

#

It’s literally

#

One of the first fucking things about them

tough haven
outer wave
winter vessel
#

unfortunately its like the saying, Sometimes you just gotta think first, and somehow people fail even that

arctic talon
#

the emperor

tough haven
outer wave
#

I kinda hate that there's a bug on that nid warrior's back

#

I thought they just had the extra brain capacity

winter vessel
#

bro is just chilling

tough haven
soft thunder
tough haven
#

Idk why it’s just exposed though

outer wave
#

Yeah at least have some armor on or something

tough haven
#

Like draw the friend shape, rn

raven stone
#

Looks like a weird shell material brain to me