40k-lore-chat

[old acorn]

I meant when they were first introduced bruh

[dusk patrol]

They never were also

[arctic talon]

They were always like this

[dusk patrol]

From their first release

[arctic talon]

Since 3e

[dusk patrol]

Read the codex

Read the early lore

[old acorn]

Whatttt, I was lied to

[dusk patrol]

They’ve just expanded on them

[arctic talon]

The tau did not get more grimdark

[storm jungle]

Pro tip: Never get your lore from other people

[crystal forum]

GW has never ever added a good guy faction because it defeats the purpose of the setting

[arctic talon]

If anything they got less grimdark

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s a commonly said thing cause people never fucking read

[arctic talon]

Lol

[opaque coyote]

They did start out better.

Not necessarily completely good. But they were better.

Then the fanbase complained

And GW made them worse

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[crisp heath]

The tyranids aren’t evil

[arctic talon]

The tau are less evil now

[storm jungle]

I mean

[dusk patrol]

This is false

[storm jungle]

they are

[arctic talon]

Then they were on launch

They don’t have like

[dusk patrol]

Like seriously

[crisp heath]

They only exist to eat

[arctic talon]

The death camps anymore

Lol

[dusk patrol]

Read their first codex

[crisp heath]

They have no feelings of hate

[dusk patrol]

They’re just as evil if not worse

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeaaahh

DoW had them tho

[arctic talon]

They replaced the death camp with the re-education camps

[crisp heath]

They just wanna eat you

[storm jungle]

the hivemind is very much malicious

[opaque coyote]

Although it was a

Castration one

[crystal forum]

ethereals dont care about you they just want power

[storm jungle]

these thigns arent animals

[opaque coyote]

[crisp heath]

Wha

[dusk patrol]

Idk where this narrative started but it’s the worst

[arctic talon]

That was the sterilization thing yeah

[arctic talon]

Prolly 4chan

Or like

[dusk patrol]

It’s the same as the Ollanius bitching

[arctic talon]

Bolter and chainsword

[dusk patrol]

It’s a made up issue

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

If they werent evil they wouldnt be making bioforms that are better at killing you.

The Hivemind is smart. It knows. And it hates you and sees you as food.

[opaque coyote]

Although tbf DoW was the only instance where they had that

[arctic talon]

It’s also in the FFG RPGs

As a thing they do to

[opaque coyote]

Why remove the capability to make more cannon fodder after all

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/congress-gif-22995902

[arctic talon]

Like people who don’t fall in line

Under tau rule

[crisp heath]

I figured it was just seeing you as food, no actual hate behind it

Like the fox doesn’t hate the rabbit, it’s just hungry

[storm jungle]

No thing with zero emotions behind it invents better ways to kill you

[arctic talon]

Nids are more like dolphins

[dusk patrol]

They also have re education and concentration camps for a long time for any Tau or auxiliary dissidents

[opaque coyote]

I am still waiting for a Non-Chaos Renegade Faction

...any day now

...ANY DAY NO-

[crisp heath]

Xenomorphs

[storm jungle]

The xenomorphs are the same

[opaque coyote]

Except for that one instance with the blood angels

[storm jungle]

the Queen literally psychically manipulates people

[crystal forum]

i dont think nids feel emotions

[arctic talon]

Mfw the shas’o gets dragged off for “a vacation”

After saying the ethereals are stupid

[storm jungle]

They understand these concepts

they just dont care

[dusk patrol]

We also get a direct pov from the hivemind where it maliciously goes after the blood angels

[storm jungle]

^

It understands they are a threat

and goes out to kill them

[crisp heath]

So there is no way of actually killing the tyranids whole sale

[arctic talon]

I do like how GW have like genuinely leaned into

the Water Caste being CIA spooks

[dusk patrol]

It’s aware of what it’s doing

It doesn’t care

[crisp heath]

They’ve won most of the universe and are just doing a final lap

[storm jungle]

if the hivemind was animalistic it would simply eat anything in its way, it actively seeks out biomass to kill and develop better ways to aid its conquests

[plush mason]

"everyone's favorite sentient anal polyp Erebus" -Weshammer 2024

[dusk patrol]

You can shoot them all

[storm jungle]

Not possible either

thats just imperial cope

[opaque coyote]

I think it's similar to how the Flood from Halo is characterized.

For them, eating people is just life.

Of course they fight. Any animal fights if they know they are gonna get slaughtered.

It doesn't mean that they're gonna not be on your plate...

[crisp heath]

Biomass form all over the universe

Weighing down around you

[dusk patrol]

We have no idea of their origin

[crisp heath]

You don’t have enough metal for bullets

[dusk patrol]

Or how big they are

[storm jungle]

their origin doesnt matter

[crystal forum]

the imperium mimics 60's south america pretty well i guess

[storm jungle]

we actively see the fleets on teh galactic map

they are essentially endless

[dusk patrol]

They are for the narrative, but the point is we have no idea how much is out there

[crisp heath]

I still think the genestealers are my favorite tyrnaid lore ngl

[storm jungle]

Okay but theres still lots

[dusk patrol]

They’re never going away

Yes

[storm jungle]

"its for the narrative" is not an excuse

[dusk patrol]

I’m saying this

[opaque coyote]

Genestealers somehow having more interesting lore than the Tyranid Bioforms moment

[storm jungle]

Me when actively exploiting the fact that humans fuck a lot

🧬

[opaque coyote]

The reproductive cycle thing is kinda weird thi

[crisp heath]

It’s not even the genestealers, it’s the revolution part

[arctic talon]

The water caste simultaneously being Political heads + being The Feds is still funny as shit

[opaque coyote]

How do they even go from lile

[dusk patrol]

The point is we don’t know and I’m pushing back on the idea they “conquered the universe” when we don’t know

[storm jungle]

Long story

where do you want to start

[dusk patrol]

They’re a big numbers bug faction

[crisp heath]

How they all believe they are saving their planet from oppression

Then the nids show up

[opaque coyote]

Genestealer

To fucked up mutant

To less fucked up mutant

To normal person

...and then back to a Genestealer?

[storm jungle]

Yes

the last generation gives birth to new proper genestealers

its gangbangs all the way down

[dusk patrol]

Iirc fifth generation is Genestealers

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

yeah the women give birth to them

[arctic talon]

5th gen are purestrains again

[crisp heath]

Pure forms

[storm jungle]

Strain deez nu-

[arctic talon]

Tbf they come out small

still painful

[opaque coyote]

God damn the woman who births that Genestealer probably suffered from pains for days

[dusk patrol]

Before that they’re fulfilling some sick fucks kink the whole way

[crisp heath]

Hivemind makes them ignore it

[storm jungle]

no wonder the fandom likes them

[dusk patrol]

Fourth generation are much less

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Human

So that helps

But yeah it’s uh

[arctic talon]

Watercaste operative totally not on an Imperial world

[arctic talon]

4th gen are the most human

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/chestbuster-aliens-chest-buster-gif-15100290

[storm jungle]

Yeah its the first gens who are the "venerated" elders

who are like any size and shape

because they are mutated CUNTS

[dusk patrol]

I did not know that I had it mixed up the other way

Idk if that makes any sense but hey

[arctic talon]

Tbf

[storm jungle]

Just like how they mixed up your mom

[arctic talon]

it makes sense

[opaque coyote]

Also I am pretty sure the pinkish tone of the 4th generation is like

Not in the universe right

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-man-regular-show-my-gif-26029512

[arctic talon]

it depends

some are a bit pinkish

[opaque coyote]

Like in universe they have a normal skin tone

[arctic talon]

others are just normal skin tone

[storm jungle]

No they dont

[arctic talon]

Weirdly colored skin is like

[storm jungle]

they are mostly purple of some shade

[arctic talon]

not that weird

as a mutation

its considered an acceptable level

[storm jungle]

Also remember the societies and planets they are on affect the way they sometimes look too.

[arctic talon]

Like having weird redish skin is fine

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I always thought that the pinkish skin tone was just artists differentiating them for the arteork

[dusk patrol]

Also they’re generally amongst the scum and underbelly

Amongst mutants

[crisp heath]

Is there any way to cure a person that’s been attacked by a genestealer?

[dusk patrol]

And radiation and disease infested people

[crisp heath]

Or is it over?

[storm jungle]

nope

its literally entirely down to your DNA

[crisp heath]

Very gridmark

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

A Bolter shell to the head

[storm jungle]

they captured your mojo

[arctic talon]

Once you're kissed you'll always have genestealer babies

[dusk patrol]

Tau have some way but it’s not expanded on

[arctic talon]

hybrids can't be cured

[storm jungle]

To be fair tau have actual healthcare

[dusk patrol]

And it’s likely not feasible

[arctic talon]

thats like curing someone being like

[crisp heath]

Yeah I believe I saw that in a book

[arctic talon]

actually

[storm jungle]

and yeah the effort is a lot

[arctic talon]

I can't say that

LOL

[storm jungle]

its why most dont bother

[arctic talon]

you can't cure genestealer hybrids

like explictly

[storm jungle]

just like real life

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think only recently infected can be cured

[storm jungle]

you cant cure being ugly

[dusk patrol]

Yes you can

[crisp heath]

The eldar could I’m sure

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

Eldar medical tech is basically magic

so prob

[crisp heath]

They turn you into a liquid and rebuild you

[opaque coyote]

I wonder if 4th Gens can be cured?

[arctic talon]

nio

[crisp heath]

Taking out the bad parts

[arctic talon]

they're over half genestealer

[storm jungle]

You joke but they could lol

[dusk patrol]

Kinky

[arctic talon]

I'm sure a Haemonculi could do it

[opaque coyote]

Are their organs like Tyranid looking

[storm jungle]

their medical tech is literally "whatever advanced shit the author can write"

[opaque coyote]

Ik that sounds weird

[arctic talon]

Humanish

[opaque coyote]

But you get what I mean

[arctic talon]

some additional bits

[dusk patrol]

It runs on mumbo

[arctic talon]

and weird parts

[crisp heath]

The eldar could probably bring back Big E

But they shouldn’t

Ever

[dusk patrol]

They sorta were gonna maybe

[storm jungle]

The problem is bringing back Big E is like bringing back Hitler

[dusk patrol]

But it didn’t pan out

Contract disputes

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I was thinking of like

The 4th Gen looking completely human on the outside

But as soon as you dissect them. Their organs just look completely different

[crisp heath]

Exactly my thought

[storm jungle]

atleast with Hitler you can shoot him out on the street

[crisp heath]

You are bringing back the person who wants to see you dead and has all the power to do it

[storm jungle]

prett ymuch

[opaque coyote]

Although tbf about Hitler. He's low tier in the 40k verse

[storm jungle]

Yeah but hes one of the biggest monsters we have IRL

Big E is like 1000x Hitlers

[dusk patrol]

He couldn’t even finish one genocide smh

[crisp heath]

Ghengis khan ended up being a demon

[dusk patrol]

Pathetic

[crisp heath]

Hitler didn’t

[storm jungle]

Lmao

I WONDER WHY

[crisp heath]

Khorne respect the hustle

[storm jungle]

İmagine reading the Siege of Terra

and some daemon named Adolfus Hitronus shows up

[dusk patrol]

“Hey guys should we have a daemon whose hitler in our war game?”

“No timmy you dumbass.”

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

“Just use Genghis Khan or something.”

[storm jungle]

Cengiz is easier since he killed everyone

he wasnt too racist about the matter

lol

[dusk patrol]

Well

He probably was

[storm jungle]

"too"

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Genghis actually fought with his troops and did some brutal but effective tactics.

Hitler didn't. He mainly commanded. And then killed himself when things went wrong.

Khorne hates cowardice.

[storm jungle]

TOO

and yeah Cengiz is more romanticized

[dusk patrol]

Siri find me Genghis Khans thoughts on the Chinese

[storm jungle]

okay but

was he too wrong

especially chinese in THAT era

[opaque coyote]

Mfw I have some Genghis Khan in me

[dusk patrol]

Hitler fought in WW1

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

Theres a difference between

[dusk patrol]

In a very stressful role

[storm jungle]

Sitting in a trench getting gassed

and

Riding horseback with 10044002 riders

[dusk patrol]

Like, he’s a piece of shit but he lived through horrors

[storm jungle]

I mean that gets him no sympathy

[opaque coyote]

And his father punished him severely

[storm jungle]

Everyone did in that era

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

NICE

[dusk patrol]

He didn’t have much of a father in his life

Which is why he was an art major

[crisp heath]

Heheh

[dusk patrol]

Stalin wishes he didn’t have a father in his life

[opaque coyote]

But yeah besides that. Hitler and Genghis are both assholes to put it lightly.

However, you have to respect Genghis's hustle more.

He actually succeeded

[dusk patrol]

Do I?

[opaque coyote]

Which is a major difference from Hitler who

Didn't.

L

[opaque coyote]

No

[dusk patrol]

The main reason we don’t see them the same is Hitler is still fairly recent memory

[opaque coyote]

Also again

He failed

[crisp heath]

The most interesting thing about the khan was that he and his army incorporated aspects of defeated cultures tactics and weapons to their own use

Which made them even better

[opaque coyote]

Like how WW2 went was probably the BEST timeline for the Nazis ironically

[crisp heath]

Such an odd thing to say

[dusk patrol]

I guess but his empire fell apart pretty fast after he died too, like idk it’s just silly to act like there’s much difference, they both were fine with the slaughter of absurd amounts of people

[opaque coyote]

In terms of how far they got

[dusk patrol]

I don’t feel the need to “give Genghis his props”

[opaque coyote]

Mhm fair

[crisp heath]

You don’t have to

[dusk patrol]

It’s interesting for sure

[opaque coyote]

I am kinda speaking from a detached POV anyways

[crisp heath]

It’s just an interesting figure

[dusk patrol]

I like reading about this stuff

But yeah he was a monster

[opaque coyote]

Like I am not condoning either of them

Just to be clear

[crisp heath]

And extremely influential in how the world ended up

[opaque coyote]

I am not supporting them in anyway

[dusk patrol]

Plus he failed in building a lasting empire

[opaque coyote]

But it is interesting to see history

[crisp heath]

Khans riders brought the Black Death with them too I believe

Which is wild

[opaque coyote]

Basically they found dead bodies

And decided

"How do we clear out a village easier"

"Play an interactive version of Plague Inc"

[dusk patrol]

There’s always a debate on some conquerors and if it’s a net positive or not if they make nations which have built the world but with Genghis he didn’t even really do that

[opaque coyote]

Also...

Even as a Chinese

...

Yeah I can't say I disagree

Chinese History is fucking insane

How the fuck did we not wipe ourselves out I swear to god

[storm jungle]

To be fair

[dusk patrol]

Idk man he never had to play against Chinese players in Apex

[paper haven]

Remember that guy who said he was the brother of Jesus?

[storm jungle]

95% of chinese history is "person gets killed, position is taken over"

[near wasp]

Emperor xi fought emperor quin 40 million died

[storm jungle]

also eunucs galore

[crisp heath]

14 knights fighting in a European event is a massive moment in history

[opaque coyote]

You forgot to add

"20 million died"

[storm jungle]

YEP

EVERY TIME

[crisp heath]

1000000 Chinese soldiers die

Tuesday

[opaque coyote]

He also believed that he could absorb bullets and fire them back

[paper haven]

I forget the death toll but it's in the high tens of millions

[opaque coyote]

Not joking

[crisp heath]

Those numbers have to be wrong

[dusk patrol]

Reading history makes you realize maybe my life is pretty good and most of us won a very brutal lottery

[arctic talon]

The yellow river has not flooded, they have lost the Mandate of Heaven

[crisp heath]

There’s no way they could repopulate that fast

With that many deaths

[rose thorn]

This isn’t even the first non binary storm cast 😭

[dusk patrol]

No way you say?

[arctic talon]

Wars weren’t that common

• massive population

Also casually reports were exaggerated for many battles

[rose thorn]

This isn’t even the first one with a model

[opaque coyote]

There was also the Siege of Suiyang

Up to 50,000 Civilians eaten during the Siege

[arctic talon]

This is known

[opaque coyote]

And guess what

It was a decisive victory

[paper haven]

Fun times

[near wasp]

Eaten? Excuse me

[arctic talon]

Yes

Next question

[dusk patrol]

MAGS WERE TALKING CHINESE HISTORY NOT A STORMCASTS PRONOUNS RN

[opaque coyote]

Yup

One of the most wide spread instances of cannibalism

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/no-oh-the-horror-mortified-no-no-no-my-name-is-earl-gif-5376630

[rose thorn]

WHICH CHINESE HISTORY

[arctic talon]

The enemy army pretty much was destroyed

[opaque coyote]

Let me get an excerpt actually give me a second

[arctic talon]

Sieging the city

[dusk patrol]

Seems we’re hippity hoppity around rn

But yeah Chinese history is wild

[arctic talon]

Please not with the general slitting the persons throat

Actually it’s prolly that one

Isn’t it

[opaque coyote]

"Xun fetched his concubine, killed her in front of the army and presented her to the soldiers saying: "Brothers, for the sake of your country you have defended this city with united efforts.... I am not able to cut my own flesh to feed you, but how can I take pity on this woman and just sit by and watch the dangers?" As tears rolled down their faces the soldiers were unable to eat. Xun forcefully ordered them to eat her."

[paper haven]

The fun parts

[arctic talon]

It’s absolutely that one

[arctic talon]

Yeah it’s that one

[dusk patrol]

[rose thorn]

Before or after hundreds of thousand died for no reasons for the 8th time

[crisp heath]

Chinese history was always the hardest part for me to study ngl

[paper haven]

Both

[rose thorn]

Ah

[dusk patrol]

Lots of tragedy, doesn’t really get much better either….

[crisp heath]

So many big names and dynasty’s and dates made it really hard to remember in my classes

[opaque coyote]

Also contrary to how culture usually does it.

The women were eaten first.

Then old men

Then children

Only men of fighting age were spared

[dusk patrol]

Damn based

[paper haven]

Imagine being too emotional to commit cannibalism. Shameful

[arctic talon]

Ancient Chinese history sucks for everyone involved

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-jawline-rizz-rizz-face-sigma-gif-6353901556076043532

[crisp heath]

Virgin Chinese history vs Chad sea peoples lack of it

[paper haven]

China really doesn't like women for some reason

[opaque coyote]

Tbh Chinese History genuinely feels unreal to read

Like it feels like I'm reading a 40k book until I realize

"...oh yeah this happened in real life"

[dusk patrol]

Chinese women having their own separate language is pretty wild

[opaque coyote]

That goes for a lot of cultures back then tbf

[dusk patrol]

It’s honestly just depressing

[arctic talon]

it’s a dead language now

[paper haven]

A fair point

[dusk patrol]

Like it doesn’t get better

Same with Russia

[arctic talon]

It just gets worse

And worse

[dusk patrol]

It’s just sad

[arctic talon]

We’re at a high point in the average Chinese citizens like

Everything

[paper haven]

Russia and China keep trying to outdo each other

[crisp heath]

History is sad

[arctic talon]

Relevant

[dusk patrol]

The Middle East at least has some nicer moments before it all goes to shit

[crisp heath]

The Mandate of Heaven is so silly

[paper haven]

Didn't china invent bureaucracy?

[crisp heath]

They learned a calendar for the seasons and send when these events will happen or they will have a rebellion and all die

[dusk patrol]

The Iron Hands are really inspired by China it turns out

[arctic talon]

yes

Sorta

They did invent their own burecratic system

that was pretty efficent

just ignore how terrible it was to become a part of it

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209843216227368962/1275482322229133394/IMG_4224.png?ex=66d48d7a&is=66d33bfa&hm=8f056511eadff1c3806e1c86522373be97f4c482fee853695f79adace8d43b93&

[dusk patrol]

Smh idiot fell for the most obvious honeypot ever

[arctic talon]

China invented their bureaucratic system in like 200 something BCE

[crisp heath]

Didn’t guilliman do something like this with the highlords

[arctic talon]

No

he just deposed them lol

he planned on them rebeling

[paper haven]

Remember when the sitting emperor refused to industrialize because the best area for it was where his brother, the rightful emperor, was hiding and it singlehandedly prevented China from becoming the empire that great Britain became?

[crisp heath]

He wanted them to rebel and when they did he had full reason to replace them

[dusk patrol]

He didn’t say “it’s ok to rebel guys”

[arctic talon]

^

he just got rid of the ones he didn't like

[dusk patrol]

He gave them enough rope to hang themselves with

He put high lords in power he knew would turn and then used it as a good excuse to kill them all

Because otherwise it would have been a whole thing of him killing high lords with a lot of friends for “no reason”

[paper haven]

Yeah but he's a primarch.

[dusk patrol]

The way he set it up he was able to do it without getting his hands dirty and justifiable

[dusk patrol]

Politics still exist

He’s a political machine

[paper haven]

He could have beaten them all to death in public and people would still support him

[dusk patrol]

Some would

He would lose potential allies and gains though

The Primarchs Scourge was him rubber stamping and going after actual chaos corruption and the like

All across Terra

But like when a Navigator House tried to rescind its Navigators for Indomitus in demand for more payment he had the house leader publicly flogged instead of killed

Because he still needed him and it was an example

[crisp heath]

We do a bit of political maneuvering

[opaque coyote]

Honestly Chinese History is so morbidly entertaining

I cannot explain why

It is so fun yet so fucking horrible to read

Because you know that all of this probably has happened

It's like a car crash crashes into another car crash

And then a plane crashes into the firey remains

At a certain point it goes from horrific to actually entertaining in a weird

Horrific way

[crystal forum]

how powerful are predator tanks in lore

[crisp heath]

Was the Horus heresy always a thing in 40k? Like when they were first drawing up the setting was this already a plot point or did it only happen as the books went on years later

[rocky gale]

Horus Heresy was an idea from quite early on, but it wasn't always what it is now

Like Horus was originally just a high ranking general who betrayed the Emperor

[crystal forum]

the HH was a big arrival of "old" lore

before that all that was told was about 40k

only small stories existing about the past before

then HH series fleshed out these lore tidbits

like we had a general idea of the siege of terra before the book series

[paper haven]

Definitely not heretical

[scenic bolt]

it was technically a thing in the very first edition, rogue trader, but horus was just a power grabbing rebel in opposition to the emperor, chaos wasnt in the setting yet

[paper haven]

They made 40k first and then backfilled the Horus heresy

[dusk patrol]

Predators are typically used as armor hunters so probably the annihilator

Depends on the patterns though, the Russ definitely can win though

[dense salmon]

yeah all the primarchs were just generals with no established relationship to the emperor

this was around the time the only sons of the emperor were the sensei

which is an entirely different rabbit hole on its own

[dense salmon]

also explains the weird names like jaghatai khan or lion el'jonson

they were literally just a list of names at one point with no backstory

flavor text

it should be noted that all of what 40k is today began as rogue trader lore

[opaque coyote]

"Disgusting! He still has fleshy parts under his robes...."

[crystal forum]

they also look sick af in the red robes

[rocky gale]

Yea like originally they weren't his sons or even enhanced in anyway, they were regular human Generals from across the Empire who were meant to be a representation of the Diadochi.

(For those unaware the Diadochi were generals who following the death of Alexander the Great, fought amongst themselves to try and claim his Empire, but none of them were able to win and it instead just fragmented into smaller states, such as Ptolemaic Egypt and the Seleucid Empire under Seleucus I Nicator)

[storm jungle]

I only learned of it from 40k authors stealing the title for custodes at some point

[rocky gale]

It's an interesting topic because Alexander according to history basically condoned what happened, like on his deathbed he was supposedly asked "Who will take your throne?" and people thought he'd Choose his son and appoint someone to protect him as regent, but instead he just says "The strongest" so they took it as "We're supposed to fight and figure out who leads"

[storm jungle]

Egotist Moment

[rocky gale]

Although there's also the historical theory that he didn't say "Toi kratistos" which means "The Strongest" he'd actually named his general Krateros, but unfortunately Krateros was not present at the time so the other generals just lied about it.

[storm jungle]

also based

id do the same

[celest dome]

I would have though Diadochi would be Chinese or Japanese

[storm jungle]

this is why our civilisations are falling....

😭

[queen laurel]

please stop sounding like a fallout villain

[rocky gale]

Na it comes from Ancient Greek diadochos from the verb diadechesthai which means "Succeed to" where dechesthai means receive and dia represents the expectation of it, so it means basically "The expected recipient" and Diadochi is then the plural.

and if it seems Asian because you're probably pronouncing it wrong, it's dy-ad-uh-ky

[celest dome]

Ok then yes it doesn't sound as asian

[rocky gale]

But then again a lot of people do pronounce it a lot of different ways, so you wouldn't be corrected

[zenith hill]

Me before Dead Sky, Black Sun: "it can't get any worse can it?"

That was... huh that was something

Time to read some cain books to get that off my mind

[rose thorn]

Since idk like, actual war stuff

Would there be an actual reason to put nets on armor and shields?

[paper haven]

A fascinating part of history

[rocky gale]

Like fishing nets?

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[rocky gale]

Uhh

I can't recall it being used historically, but I guess it could potentially be useful for tangling the weapon

[rose thorn]

I know there’s nets on modern day stuff but i have no clue why it’s on there

[rocky gale]

In modern usage it's a camouflage thing

[rose thorn]

Oh okay

[rose thorn]

True, in Ghur I guess tangling a beast’s claws up would be good

And also weapons

I wanna add something to my city’s armor to make them stand out

Besides having a weird muted colored armor

My city doesn’t use metal for their armor, they use the reforged shells of a special isopod

[celest dome]

Grenades buffer, and sometime camouflage base

[rocky gale]

Like the most famous modern usage I think of is the Danish frogmen, they use netting to break up the silhouette of their face and neck because the brain is trained to recognise and spot faces before anything else. It also hides the reflective shine that water would have on their face

[celest dome]

Cope Cage from the Russian, though not really that effective is also another example

[paper haven]

Sniper hoods are another example of nets being used.

[queen laurel]

Expand to that then, give the more monster parts, boar tusked helmets, Maw-Krusha scale gauntlets

Maw-Grunta great swords

[rose thorn]

My city lives in the corpse of a dead whale god, they are very like ‘unwelcoming docks’ depressed fishing village vibes

Ie Far Harbor from fallout 4

[queen laurel]

Then expand on the sea creature motive

Like for example crab claw weapons that can cut through a guy with a snip

Or the crossbow men that use a crossbow that fires poison bolts from a very very poisonous puffer fish you guys raise

[winter vessel]

I was thinking pieces of a crustacean as a type of body armor

[queen laurel]

Here's another neat idea have them raise a type of cuttlefish or octopus and they use the skin and using magic they can use the ability of the skin to camouflage for special sneaking missions

[rose thorn]

I’d send my lore document but I’m not sure if the chat will be cool with it

[rose thorn]

That goes too much into the idoneth deepkin corner for me

[queen laurel]

That is true

[queen laurel]

The bot will probably

Not like that

[fallen plaza]

Throughout my years stumbling around every model kit community like the scale model community, the gundam community, the 40k community etc….

[rose thorn]

Also my entire city is a moby dick reference

Whaling city that’s the word In looking for

[fallen plaza]

The scale model community is probably the only one thats like “this model kit sucks because its too good”

[queen laurel]

You want to make them more unique but the thing is they don't use materials that are usually used for armor to use what's around them but there's also the problem that it will become too idoneth

[rose thorn]

Having your train model set and then a random building looks completely different and out of style is a fair complaint

[fallen plaza]

Nah thats a fair argument, its more like “this kit is too fucking easy, where are the shitty seamlines and giant moldlines”

[rose thorn]

Pfff

Ah

[fallen plaza]

Also the train model community is different from the scale model community

Im more talking ww2 tank modellers

[rose thorn]

So the city lives in the skeleton of a whale god, but they can’t harvest the bones of the whale. Instead there is a single species of isopod that eats microscopic bits of the whale’s bones. To they eat the meat of the isopod and reforge the shells into a special metal that absorbs ghur magic really well

And the ghurish strength given by the isopod meat is vital to the survival of the city

[queen laurel]

Damn do the whale bones regenerate

[rose thorn]

Since they literally have almost no resources outside of that

[rose thorn]

Half a jawbone will last irl isopods a thousand of years

[queen laurel]

So they don't have to worry about running out then

Hmm they also use isopod shells for weapons right

[rose thorn]

And armor

The isopod shell is used as their metal

It smells bad, has a bad texture, and is very uncomfortable

[crystal forum]

train model community dedicating their entire basement to a scale model of new york train system or some shit

[queen laurel]

Then how about

Having bone worms in the bones

[fallen plaza]

They are cool as fuck

Tank modelling community is too snobish even for me sometimes

[crystal forum]

it seems like a lot of work

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-iliketrains-trains-gif-4905803

[fallen plaza]

The gundam community are a bunch of manchildren though

[queen laurel]

Like they collect the worms because of their hair to add like designs and stuff

[rose thorn]

I just want a thing to throw onto my models to look more like fishermen

[crystal forum]

give them harpoons

[rose thorn]

Fuck that’s a really good point

I was always planning to put sea monster scales to tie with the black ark models

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah their whale hunters give them like harpoon cannons or some s***

Like jay said

[rose thorn]

Literlalt just put a harpoon in the barrels of barrels is perfect

[crystal forum]

[queen laurel]

Yeah and like for example they use special harpoons called like blessings of the whale god or something, and it's tipped with like the isopod shell that has been sharpened and added magic to truly hit home

[crystal forum]

could also be carved whale bones

those things come pretty big

[queen laurel]

Nah the whale bones on her city that she is making can't be harvested by normal means

That's why they rely on the isopods

[queen laurel]

#40k-lore-chat message

[rose thorn]

While my city is a whaling town, that’s a Shyish thing

I do like it though

[queen laurel]

Is there only source really the giant whale for materials when it includes weapons and stuff

[rose thorn]

One of my city’s quirks is they bury the dead with the bones of the last fish they ate

[queen laurel]

And the isopod

Oh nice

[rose thorn]

So attaching fish bones work

[queen laurel]

Do something like pyke

Like it doesn't need to be the whale bone just giant fish

Monster bones or something like that

[rose thorn]

I love pike btw

[rose thorn]

That’s what the black ark corsair models do too tbh

[queen laurel]

Damn it

[rose thorn]

I LOVE THIS MODEL SO FUCKINBMUCH

[queen laurel]

Okay i am done this is the final tip i can give you

I am out of ideas on this skull of mine

[rose thorn]

But yeha I’ll definitely take everything in consideration

[queen laurel]

Look at the game dredge

If you know about that game you should maybe try taking some inspiration on there

[rose thorn]

Ye I know

[rose thorn]

I’ve also been watching deadliest catch

And playing far harbor for inspiration

[queen laurel]

It's very hard to fish up your city without stepping on idoneth territory

[crystal forum]

idk how real these things are but they're made from the snoot of saw sharks

looks pretty chaos'y

[fallen plaza]

There just made to be cool irl

They are a thing

And there huge

[crystal forum]

bigger than i expected

saw sharks are funny af

how does evolution do this

look at this guy

[fallen plaza]

Saw

[crystal forum]

you saw him?

[fallen plaza]

😁

[rose thorn]

Also to remain separate from misthaven, but they delve more into the criminal side of dock histories

And rip avilgard

The main issue that is gonna be with my city is how do I make the duardin match

The duardin in my city mastered reforging ispods

And are master crafters with this very very hyper specific material

[rose thorn]

That’s cool as shit lmao

I’ve been keeping in mind weapons to give characters

That’s definitely on the list

[queen laurel]

Yeah that makes sense hopefully you at least picked up some ideas here

God knows i can only make savage war machines for characters

[celest dome]

Arkonaught Whale hunter ?

[rose thorn]

Like the dispossessed

Iron drakes, warden king

Those models

[celest dome]

The Flying Dwarfs skimming over the seas while harpooning any beast they see

[sacred ginkgo]

Have them run an old world style dwarvern submersible

Forget what they’re called but I know they exist

[fallen plaza]

Make it out of a giant casket of bugmens

[celest dome]

They aren't that far from Nautical Dwarfs tbh

[rose thorn]

I love love love

[celest dome]

Nautilius?

[rose thorn]

Kharadons

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah that thing

[celest dome]

Like those being Fishers skimming over the waves to harpoons beast for the other to then hoist on ships and later hacked to pieces

[rose thorn]

I have uh, the

Storm bringer magazine

And they have like a full kharadon army

So I’m excited for that

[wintry scarab]

God, i keep getting leaked clips of SM2 on twitter and i have failed not being excited. Literally looks too good to be true.

[crystal forum]

it's very near arrival

but as always with pre orders, temper your hype

[sacred ginkgo]

I feel like it’s going to have performance issues or be really buggy

[wintry scarab]

Im not preordering as i very much disagree with the practice but i can already see myself buying it as soon as i see a good review on the 5th.

[wintry scarab]

Thats the thing as well. Everyone that has the game preview says its close to perfect in the front of optimisation. But to me, again, its all looking too good to be true.

[sacred ginkgo]

There is going to be something wrong

There is no such thing as a flawless game release

[wintry scarab]

Tbf though, id 100% take performance issues than scummy practices. Just hope they dont pull a darktide and make the mtx worse as time goes on. That said, i hope the mtx are not predatory to begin with.

[sacred ginkgo]

I feel like it might have massive server issues for a fair bit

[wintry scarab]

You also have the stuff of chaos having basically zero customization and classes being locked to one per team. (idk if the class thing is true but i heard someone say it is)

[crystal forum]

i'm fine with online mode not being shipped on launch

the issue would be if single player mode is online only

i always hate that

good internet is the one thing money can't buy if your region doesn't have access

[rose thorn]

Someone suggested just make the dispossessed like, oil barons

[crystal forum]

aquatic oil barons?

i dont know anything about fantasy

[storm jungle]

Its alright instead of an MTX store you will just get chapter cosmetic DLCs

[rose thorn]

Like whale oil

They process the fat into oil

And use it to fuel their machines and flame throwers and shit

[crystal forum]

idk anything about anything

but here's an image of kamehameha the first, king of hawaii

the drip is immaculate

[outer wave]

Gotta bring it back

Make it part of modern day fashion

[storm jungle]

My guy prob got all the ladies in his time

[crystal forum]

hawain history is bonkers

[sacred ginkgo]

Would go well with the isopod armor

As I would assume that carapace like that is insulative against heat

[fallen plaza]

Face reveal

[crystal forum]

as a water type it's good against fire

[fallen plaza]

Im actually black guys

[storm jungle]

no

[fallen plaza]

Yes

Why not

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1279574218950049814/diggin.gif

[fallen plaza]

I didnt choose to be this smh

[queen laurel]

Average Felix interaction with a woman

That guy is a walking charisma machine

[celest dome]

Able to make a Tomb Queen fall for him

[queen laurel]

That one is funny, because gotrek himself said, listen here manling i don't say this often but i will marry the both of you if she was alive and you ain't going to do jack shit about it

[outer wave]

Gotrek is a bicon????

[queen laurel]

I miss type anyway go back to the room

[outer wave]

NooooOoOOoOooo....

[celest dome]

Still think Ulrika Magdova should have been a LL for Kislev.

Best romantic interest of Felix

[queen laurel]

Yeah too bad that didn't go anywhere much

At least they're still good friends relatively

[celest dome]

I mean... didn't she basically turn feral

[queen laurel]

For a vampire?

I'm pretty sure she's calm right

[celest dome]

Due to the Ice Troll king

[queen laurel]

I haven't gotten deep into the series yet

[celest dome]

Oh sorry

[queen laurel]

So can't tell

[queen laurel]

Honestly at this point spoilers for me aren't going to be a bummer because well

The book series is relatively old by warhammer books standards

I've already seen multiple spoilers way ahead of time

So your fine

[celest dome]

Still think Ulrika as a LL would have been a good Flc, have her have a Mechanic of trust where her faction work somewhat like Malus, either you give in to the hunger (and lose trust) or you control it, but making you weaker

[queen laurel]

Yeah and like if she has gotrek and felix on her army she can get a buff or something

Could work but

I don't expect total war what to do that anytime soon

[celest dome]

Honestly since TWW3's launch I'm just wondering what they're planning.
It's just bad decision after bad decisions

TW2's dlc cycle was much nicer

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they’ve fumbled this one much worse although it’s much better now

[queen laurel]

Yeah they did pretty well with the latest dlc

At least

[dusk patrol]

Doesn’t help they’ve don’t most of the major options for dlc by now though lol

[queen laurel]

And i'm hoping the next one will cook up

[dusk patrol]

Not much left to do

[queen laurel]

After all it will hopefully fix the ogres

And round out the green skins

Oh yeah also khorne

[dusk patrol]

Grimgor buffs please

[celest dome]

They picked Malakai!
Fucking Failure of an Engineer
Failure of a Slayer !

[queen laurel]

But counter argument he has a giant airship you don't

[dusk patrol]

Trueeee

[celest dome]

Thunderbarge aren't unique or invented by Malakai

[queen laurel]

But after reading about the spirit of grungi the one in game is f******a disgrace

[queen laurel]

Yes but his is massive massive

It's cool

[celest dome]

It's big, but not sure if the biggest in lore

[outer wave]

I'm excited for those changes, even if I never played ogres extensively

[dusk patrol]

It’s not the size of the thunder barge that matters

[queen laurel]

I want to enjoy them but the camps taking a while to set up is really really annoying

[dusk patrol]

It’s how you use it

[queen laurel]

Yes but airship

[outer wave]

I mainly avoided them due to their many issues and how apparently micro intensive they can be

[celest dome]

Yeah and a coward will be known to use it well

[queen laurel]

Yeah, you need to charge them around because of their special charging buffs and stuff like that

[outer wave]

Mhmmm

[queen laurel]

But you can also just use iron guts or something

Or build yourself a range army surprisingly well

[celest dome]

Could have been introduce while picking the much more appropriate LH slot for him

[outer wave]

Yeah I'd like some ogre units that just stand there doing their thing tbh

[queen laurel]

Yeah but what can you do people like makaisson

[outer wave]

Slightly lower charge for higher staying power

[queen laurel]

Like he is probably one of the most popular dwarf characters next to gotrek and snorri

To be honest one thing i'm mad about is that we didn't get snor

Instead we got the son of the failure king

Cool iron fist i don't want your failure of a son though

If you're going to give us a slayer and you're going to commit to the Gotrek bit just give us snorri

[celest dome]

Bugmans would have been a cool White Dwarf initiative.
But Dlc wise it should have been Grimm Burloksson.
Steam powered Armour!

[queen laurel]

Yeah to be honest yeah but you know what can you do they already made the decision

[celest dome]

Which would have make sense lorewise. As he is actually respected as a leader of the Guild

[queen laurel]

Yes, but does he attach grenades on canons and throw them on an enemy as a bomb that shoots the enemy?

I don't think so

The slayer invention wins yet again

[celest dome]

I can continue despising them.
All the dlc they've did had problems

[queen laurel]

Yeah well after the series of fumbles they have done i'm pretty sure it's going to take them a long while to fix their reputation

Nuln was good and nurgle is good too

Dwarfs had their improvements but you know they still do have their issues

[celest dome]

That yes

But basically no chance for 2nd dlc for Dwarf

[queen laurel]

To be fair they did receive the deep's mechanic

So at least you can play around that as well to augment your settlements

It doesn't solve all of their issues but it's something

[crystal forum]

i can sense GW putting way more effort than usual in ensuring SM2's development went well

it's like their flagship video game series

[queen laurel]

Wouldn't surprise me, space marines are basically their cream of the crop for making money in warhammer 40k

[arctic talon]

GW still sees it as advertisement for minis

[queen laurel]

Yeah that too

[celest dome]

I think they see Tides less as such tbh

[arctic talon]

And it’s a good piece of advertisement

[celest dome]

For advertisement

[crystal forum]

quick internet check says they sold 1.2 million copies of SM1 in the first 2 months

i was not expecting google to give me good results

[arctic talon]

SM1 did pretty well

The game was kind of mid as hell though lol

[crystal forum]

im just talking sales wise here

[queen laurel]

It's set in the era of linear action games that you can't really replay

[crystal forum]

SM1 probably introduced a large chunk of the current tabletop base to the setting

which is even better for GW

[queen laurel]

And turrret sections being the most fun thing or something

It's also there with vanquish and you know metal gear revengeance

[arctic talon]

Nah it’s the quick time event era

Lol

The final boss a shitty quick time event sequence

[crystal forum]

i never played it but my impression if the first game's gameplay is like a mix of lots of popular games of the time

but tbh SM1 came during a time where gaming actually had good AAA games so it was tough competition lol

[arctic talon]

AAA has some good games now lul

Just not nearly as many

[queen laurel]

Yeah the ork secondary antagonist being more of a fight than the main antagonist is that classic warhammer

[crystal forum]

not as many as before

[arctic talon]

I think SM1 prolly wouldn’t do great nowadays

The game is quite clunky

[crystal forum]

im not being hyper nostalgic by saying there's way more flops than before

[arctic talon]

Ye

[queen laurel]

Still is the one of the most accurate representations of how a space marine would move

Space marine 2 seems to be good at that department at least

[crystal forum]

like bro SM1 came out the same years as portal 2

that's insane competition

[crystal forum]

they put so much effort in representing every SM primaris class and gun lol

it's very clearly trying to sell the models

[queen laurel]

Yep

[crystal forum]

and personally that's all i want from the game

a way to play with my gravis boys

[dusk patrol]

It looks like a very good introduction to 40k

https://youtu.be/7Ea8cxIORh4?si=_tdBlMprsJAC1FkZ

Ignore the shitty meme and added music

But this fucks hard

The voice acting is pretty dope

[crystal forum]

that reload animation is orgasmic

[wintry scarab]

Thats still sort of the same thing

[crystal forum]

also i wanna know why so many random people got the copy in advance

[wintry scarab]

The thing that boils down to is price

[arctic talon]

It’ll prolly be like

Idfk

20$ lol

My expectations are low

[dusk patrol]

They’ve been very clear for those

[arctic talon]

Oh did they give a price?

[dusk patrol]

It looks like it’s gonna be packs which you can easily ignore if you don’t care

[dusk patrol]

No but I doubt it’s more than 10 bucks tbh with the season pass price it seems.

Maybe 15

Season pass is like 30 bucks it seems maybe 40

[crystal forum]

i wonder how long they expect to support the game

if all they want to add is skins and stuff

[dusk patrol]

Seems they expect it to do well

We’ll see

[arctic talon]

There’s going to be content updates

[dusk patrol]

But I expect a long time

[crystal forum]

makes me thing that the coop game mode wont be a lot

[dusk patrol]

They’ll probably do all the first founding chapters and major successors

[wintry scarab]

Im pretty sure the game got so many preorders that they already know its going to be a massive success

[crystal forum]

they're going hard on the marketing

[dusk patrol]

They are

[crystal forum]

they're releasing so many ads that some feel unfinished lol

[dusk patrol]

Letting so many people play it a month before was genius tbh

So many friends who didn’t know anything about 40k have been talking about it

We’ll see if it’s that polished at launch

But I’m optimistic

Probably server issues

[winter vessel]

I'll give it a few days before getting into it, because Ik at launch servers are gonna be jam packed

[wintry scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vnbKeOFPrI This one was a lot lower quality than the other ones. Still looks good but definitely a bit disappointing to see.

[crystal forum]

i saw it yeah

like why even publish it

[storm jungle]

It helps milking

look at the comments lol

[crystal forum]

there's a worse one

that's just generic suspense music and powerpoint presentation

[storm jungle]

classic

[winter vessel]

My service to Super Earth has ended. Now begins my service to the Imperium of Man.-comment sigh

[wintry scarab]

Because most people dont see it as lower quality ive noticed. Like 10th ed trailer imo is dogwater yet people say its really good.

[crystal forum]

people toxifying the boys wanting to murders xenos smh

[crystal forum]

SM2 getting the HD2 effect would be interesting that's for sure

[storm jungle]

Its not going to.

Its still 40k

[crystal forum]

you can never tell when it will happen

[dusk patrol]

Probably just showing in engine gameplay for consoles

[storm jungle]

I mean wait and see then

[crystal forum]

ye

[storm jungle]

every big warhammer release is usually the same

"omg its gonna break the world guys"

falls off after 2-3 weeks

its not a popular IP

well mostly anyway

[dusk patrol]

The only comparable releases were Total Warhammer and Darktide

[winter vessel]

and then they start saying "game dead".

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[crystal forum]

i can guarantee you the coop game mode was only added because it's the hot thing rn

[dusk patrol]

And this is much bigger than either

[storm jungle]

I mean i cant complain

games stopping doing coop is braindead

[dusk patrol]

This is

Literally Sabres whole deal

[crystal forum]

oh

[dusk patrol]

It’s been their thing, everything is built around that mode and the campaign by extension.

[storm jungle]

^

its why the PvP is such an afterthought

[dusk patrol]

Now we’ll see how repayable it is idk

[storm jungle]

the mainselling point is coop

[dusk patrol]

But Sabre has done stuff like this before

[crystal forum]

the pvp now that does look like a tacked on thing

[storm jungle]

I mean it is

its literally only there because SM1 had it

difference is this once is even lesser from all we've seen of it atm

[dusk patrol]

It might be fun idk, but the PvE is probably the best part

[rose thorn]

Hellos what did i miss

[winter vessel]

yeah

[rose thorn]

I was buying wolf goblins

[storm jungle]

Space Marines

[rose thorn]

Damn

[dusk patrol]

We’ll see it’s not out til it’s out but it looks good

[rose thorn]

Any chapter?

Or the game

[winter vessel]

just the upcoming game

[dusk patrol]

Mags scroll up like half a page and read

[wintry scarab]

From what ive seen it looks super unattractive compared to the rest of the game. Like i literally could not care less about it. But i guess well see.

[storm jungle]

who tf scrolls up in discord

[rose thorn]

There is 200+ messages since I was gone for 10 minutes

[dusk patrol]

Non-goobers

[rose thorn]

I’m not reading all of that

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

So not you guys I guess

[storm jungle]

ok iron gooner

[winter vessel]

lonely people looking for those who replied to their comments

[storm jungle]

Its basically slamming into each other and button mashing

it looks pretty uninteresting

but all the SM1 gooners will love it

[crystal forum]

i look up my name regularly to see if any of you have been saying things

[storm jungle]

they are about as mindless as the showcased mechanics

[winter vessel]

Goonies

[dusk patrol]

It might be kinda fun but I don’t care much either way.

[crystal forum]

that's a good movie

heyyyy you guyyyyys

[wintry scarab]

Not having executions in mp basically made me lose all interest. Then the actual gameplay just seems like something you try a couple of times and then never touch again.#

[storm jungle]

wait what

[wintry scarab]

From what theyve shown its just spamming the melee button untill one of you dies

[storm jungle]

lmao

[crystal forum]

can't wait for the guardsman version of SM2 being 5 minutes of gameplay before you die

[storm jungle]

i assume they will add executions later in another update

half the "roadmap" is features that should be on launch that are just relegated to seasonal content

sounds familiar

[wintry scarab]

Yeah just like they did with halo infinite. Ahh, halo.

[storm jungle]

LOL

SHUT UP

[winter vessel]

My Halo Campaign Hen Mode will be kicking in when I see the Guard fighting with me

[storm jungle]

"campaign hen mode"

my man

🤝

[crystal forum]

i hope they make guardsmen extra weak so you people suffer

[storm jungle]

how about i shove my fist up your a-

🤜

[arctic talon]

guard literally had 1 hp and did 1 damage

in the original game

they literally did nothing lol

[storm jungle]

im pretty sure they did 0 damage

[arctic talon]

they did 1 damage but couldn't kill

[storm jungle]

i remember someone looking into the files

[crystal forum]

can't have the guard taking away the spotlight

[arctic talon]

so they couldn't "steal" kills from you

[winter vessel]

I'm literally like a camp counselor (the good kind) who actually is concerned about the wellbeing of those under me. Same with the Marines, and now same with the Guard

[arctic talon]

the guard in this game actually like

seems to do damage

[storm jungle]

Lmao man Halo is too real for that one

the Marine AI actually being good makes it even better

[winter vessel]

That's one thing i noticed during some of the footage, they actually help more.

[dusk patrol]

“Cortana, show me ‘Halo marines taking the drivers seat.’”

[wintry scarab]

I know in SM2 guardsmen will have the titan fall 2 style combat animations, if you know what im talking about. Those animations that npc grunts would have were so cool and immersive.

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/-kMDl35G-Sc?si=9A2QaMBxdZKyrTN7
can somebody explain to me if this is a troll

[storm jungle]

💀 💀 💀

[storm jungle]

troll as in?

[crystal forum]

is it an actual project

[storm jungle]

I mean maybe?

[crystal forum]

or just a small animation

[storm jungle]

its using SM1 models

both for the orks/guardsmen

[crystal forum]

deducting points for going with cadians instead of custom regiment like astartes did with the chapter

[storm jungle]

pre-existing models

so easier to acquire + utilize

[storm jungle]

to be fair TF1-2 grunts are like leagues above most NPCs in today's gaming

[crystal forum]

rewatching astates made me realize how OP the SM's are in it

one just tanks an autocannon shot like it's nothing

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats one of the more bullshit bits

same with the multi-las part

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think they get hit

[crystal forum]

and just standing still while being shot by a multi las

[storm jungle]

One tanks it with the pauldron for the autocannon

the multilas yeah he takes it head on with like 100 shots

i get why the creator did it tho

[crystal forum]

it looks cool af yeah

[storm jungle]

not that nah

he makes them seem invincible until they actually face something that bodies them instantly

[crystal forum]

that true

[storm jungle]

its a good rugpull from the audience's feet

[arctic talon]

Titanfall 1 and 2 grunts are so cool

The Specter and Stalkers are great as well

I love all the unique animations and shit they have

[queen laurel]

Titus casually body slamming multiple daemon hosts

[storm jungle]

them brutally killing grunts 💀

[queen laurel]

As if those can't kill him with a single big laser blast

[arctic talon]

The stalker literally has an animation where it tears someones arm off and then rips their heart out lol

[crystal forum]

it's kinda funny to me since people expect space marine armour to work like fallout power armour or something

[wintry scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIWzj0HSOUI Im rewatching some of them and while its nothing to do with AI, shit like this is just so damn cool. Imagine if cultists did this in SM2 after you pick off a squad and leave one alive. I love little details like this.

[winter vessel]

my titan going out for a sunday stroll +5 grunt killed i'm just stepping on em

[storm jungle]

bro... that animation i forgot about it

its so fucked up too

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/rcWfPdvaOSw?t=46

the most awful campaign but this scene was pure nightmare fuel

💀

[queen laurel]

Bro what kind of programming did they install on these motherfuckers

That felt personal

[storm jungle]

to be fair

in the robot's POV

its removing "offending" limbs that is touching it

[crystal forum]

seriously who let them cook with that campaign after the absolute masterpieces that were black ops 1 and 2

[storm jungle]

then getting to kill the attacker

it has basic programming probably as a combat bot

[arctic talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKLaSsrOHlc

tbh

[queen laurel]

Yes see but you know they could have also just went with the clean cave in the skull