40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

Still though the idea of the Deep Warp is terrifying

It also makes the Word Bearers look even more like idiots

Cause their statement about the Chaos Gods being the true Gods

Is objectively not true

[tough haven]

Man I'd love it if I could just have all the qol mods that fucking everyone uses in base game, why cant fatshark take a hint

I also just dont wanna fuck around with mods again now that the game has updated, I'm too lazy

[opaque coyote]

I think that after itemization releases

They should do a QoL rework

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2izSjSXoq8 @crystal forum

[fallen plaza]

As overhyped this game is i hope this game would inspire people to buy machinen kreiger kits more

[outer wave]

I dunno I dont feel this game is overhyped, especially when you see how rough the cutscenes and some gameplay elements are right now

[fallen plaza]

Either way, let this be a gateway to machinen krieger

😁

Maybe if they can popular enough i can eventually afford it

[plush mason]

well there go my plans for sm2 i think lol

[outer wave]

This game is VERY rough from what Ive seen FYI

So dont expect it to be flawless on EA release

[winter vessel]

this kinda reminds of Wasteland 3 but not from the top down perspective

[crystal forum]

ok they sold me

i like these guys

i hope they arent scummy

[outer wave]

I hope so too

[crystal forum]

september is building up to be a huge month games wise

SM2, frostpunk 2, now forever winter

[winter vessel]

I typically get 1 game a year. Before it used to be a hard decision between games, but the degradation of gaming nowadays kinda makes it simpler.

so SM2

[crystal forum]

you have much more self control than me

[plush mason]

thankfully im not dumb enough to expect that for an early access title

[outer wave]

Unless it was a game from devs like Supergiant, which would be understandable

[winter vessel]

Its the matter of the grind. I dedicate my time to 1 game for a few months, before contemplating the next based on review and performance of a game, doing that for almost eight years

[fallen plaza]

Since I know how much of a big nerd you are you should also check out maschinen krieger

[crystal forum]

another tabletop thing?

[fallen plaza]

They are the cool robots you always see on Pinterest

[fallen plaza]

Nah it's purely a kit thing

[crystal forum]

i dont use pinterest

[fallen plaza]

I would show you pics but I'm on data

[crystal forum]

im checking

looks cool

[fallen plaza]

😁

[crystal forum]

i want to break every rib in an ethereal caste tau's body until their breathing sounds like a balloon full of water

[fallen plaza]

Why tho

[winter vessel]

They remind me of a Condescending CrossFit coach thinking they know how to be healthy

[sour hornet]

?

what did they do to deserve this?

[crystal forum]

everything?

do people seriously take the side of ethereals

[sour hornet]

they aren't that bad

they're actually kinda chill

[queen laurel]

compared to the shit that is the Imperium? yeah

[fallen plaza]

That is like, a really low bar

Tau are still pretty bad

[queen laurel]

But if you're going to pick which one would you go in the fanatical zealots or the caste system aliens

[outer wave]

Caste system aliens that use MIND CONTROL to control the populace

[fallen plaza]

One or the other aren't lesser evils, just different evils

The idea of a caste system is like really backwards and is comparable to slavery

[queen laurel]

i didn't say they're good i just say that they're like a more desirable place to live in than the imperium

yes they're evil but like compared to what the imperium does on the daily

do you really expect people not to choose them

[winter vessel]

are they all vegetarians? I feel like I read that from somewhere

[outer wave]

Its better to be a second class citizen than practically a slave working off of religious zeal and corpse-based meals

[sour hornet]

compared to the Imperium?

yeah dog

[tough haven]

Pick the farsight enclaves and you get a marginally more fair environment, though less protected

Less mind control too

Not really sure how you end up within the enclaves as a gue’vesa as it’s not like farsight is out recruiting people like regular tau

What do they even do these days beyond keeping to themselves? I haven’t been able to read the new enclaves lore

[opaque coyote]

The farsight enclaves are pretty interesting

I need to read their books

[opaque coyote]

Honestly he probably does

need all the people they can get tbh

Probably less "second class" level of treatment cause yk

again

Need all the people they can get

[green loom]

Ok so the SM2 classes are
Tactical - Valius
Heavy - Straban
Vanguard - Decimus
Assault - Vespasius
Sniper - Scipius
Bulwark - Quartus

[queen laurel]

why is 5 out of six of them end their name with us

[fallen plaza]

Amongus

[green loom]

Pig latin

[queen laurel]

honestly i will just buy that explanation

[celest dome]

It's basically the answer

Ultramar is themed after Rome

The Republic time one

[shell mason]

God i fucking hate Nobles

not the riches or the snobby behavior

[fallen plaza]

Good thing they arent real

[shell mason]

I mean

in a way yeah

[shell mason]

finally got hands on another book

[crystal forum]

Once upon a time in the distant past, humanity sent little robots up to Mars in order to analyse rocks, without ever realising that one day the Machine Cult would take over the entire planet, and cover it with forges dedicated to producing terrifying weapons of war.

you know, it's always funny to be reminded that 40k followed our normal history during the 2nd millenium

like twitter and jerma985 existing while eldar are living their life and orks are rampaging around

"Having such a high-output arms factory close to home was handy for the Imperium, but when the Waramster"

HA TYPO

LAUGH

warhamster

[fallen plaza]

Emperor is still in hiding too

Still recovering from when he became George bush

[crystal forum]

he went a bit too goofy with that one

btw had the craziest dream

ever get one of those dreams where you dont want to wake up

[fallen plaza]

Its always with something i want to have

[crystal forum]

what is that usually

[fallen plaza]

I wake up in the morning, see a box, boom. Stormhammer.

Wake up

[crystal forum]

for me it's an actually fun life

like adventure shit

[fallen plaza]

The weirdest dream i had

Was when i dreamed i opened a chest in vt2 and got a red rapier

That one was a weird to subconsciously desire in your sleep

Still annoyed it was a dream

[fallen plaza]

Like what

[crystal forum]

anything interesting

[queen laurel]

I very rarely have dreams nowadays but when I do ohh do I remember them

especially the nightmares

Not fun those are

[crystal forum]

most of what i remember of my dream is calling something, like a progression in a zelda game, and looking up through a pine forest canopy to see a mssive titan looking giant emerge

[fallen plaza]

I havent had nightmares since i was in lower grades

[crystal forum]

and i remember this super colourful giant knight looking thing marching forward above me, the pine needles falling around me as i look up

[fallen plaza]

I still remember them to this day

[queen laurel]

same here most of the time my sleep is just completely over and i just wake up like nothing happened completely over and I just wake up like nothing happened

[fallen plaza]

But i still struggle to describe them

[queen laurel]

ohh yeah that

[crystal forum]

the more you write about it the more you'll remember in the futur

[queen laurel]

All I can remember from my nightmares are being chased by monsters other than that nothing else

very basic nightmares but not fun

[fallen plaza]

The best one i could describe

[crystal forum]

my nightmares are usually stress related in that i've done something wrong, usually a crime

and i feel like my life is over

[fallen plaza]

Was me being really tiny in a giant forge

[crystal forum]

like murder

i'm able to calm myself down usually and wake myself up when i have a stress dream at least

[fallen plaza]

And the forge was making such horrible sounds, like they were beastly and demonic from all the making

[fallen plaza]

Elaborate?

Murder?

[queen laurel]

that is straight up out of 40K

[crystal forum]

murder is a reaccuring one

like i'm not killing somebody, the act is in the past

and im just running away

[fallen plaza]

Oh those

[crystal forum]

but i can remind myself that i'd never hurt anybody and wake up

[queen laurel]

i only woke up once from a nightmare and man i do not want to experience that

felt like i was being a watched and just before i suffer i wake up

[crystal forum]

yeah waking up in full stress nightmare mode is terrifying

im very happy to not suffer from sleep paralysis

although i think i've had it a handful of times before?

[fallen plaza]

At least, it is an abstract form of a forge

Imagine a bad AI rendition of a forge, now imagine its melting and jumping

[crystal forum]

one day i need to keep a dream journal because this stuff would make fantastic 40k material

[fallen plaza]

And every move it makes is like a thunderous roar

[queen laurel]

ugh not a fun image

[crystal forum]

i remember my cat being in my dream

and for some reason that made me feel very good

like everything would be ok

[queen laurel]

your subconscious probably looked for comforting parts of your memory and materialize it as your cat because you love it or something

stuff like that happens with dreams

[fallen plaza]

Never really remember having love ones in a dream

[queen laurel]

I do mine but their fates in mine aren't pretty

do not like remembering that stuff so i'm just gonna shove that back to the hole

[crystal forum]

doesnt happen often to me too

i'm usually on my own in my dreams

but maybe i can try thinking of her next time i have a stress dream

have you guys played disco elysium

i just got it on discount after hearing a lot about it

[fallen plaza]

Had some friends play it

They said it was good

[queen laurel]

nah

haven't played it heard it's good though

[crystal forum]

i really like the in depth psychological system but there's a lot i dont get lol

[fallen plaza]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147647754273837130/1191892692444135514/20240103_005536.jpg?ex=66d304d2&is=66d1b352&hm=b8ce3d6cde2c9d134375dc0e9686868fb52143b6212316e4d64934bc31ed740f&

Forge

[queen laurel]

Frogger

[fallen plaza]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147647754273837130/1196161701029089460/IMG-20240114-WA0051.jpg?ex=66d2baa5&is=66d16925&hm=02fa65bed6e64b94b9a166c318cf0958164889594df89cf583957b78fa6fca82&

[fallen plaza]

His name is bob

[queen laurel]

yes Bob

[fallen plaza]

[crystal forum]

is that your hand

[fallen plaza]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147647754273837130/1272248894893461584/IMG-20240811-WA0031.jpg?ex=66d2ad5d&is=66d15bdd&hm=db94466c606d50ad16fb73ee2ae157d333f42c82c4b7f20587d7be4f17ff80ed&

[crystal forum]

you never told me your nails were chill like that

[shell mason]

second time i saw that Zimmy

[celest dome]

Hello Bob

[fallen plaza]

[shell mason]

how you know my name?

[shell mason]

cute frog tho

what breed is it?

[fallen plaza]

[shell mason]

king frog be crazy

[fallen plaza]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1154157689811783740/1187597376630833273/20231222_042551.jpg?ex=66d3367f&is=66d1e4ff&hm=4da9b23cf98507b9544f81f3807b354f1a09e60feb4d3cbe32ffb7a38e04579e&

@crystal forum

[sour hornet]

💀

[fallen plaza]

He ate fimger

[crystal forum]

rip

nommed

[proven needle]

Ate finger and... croaked?

[crystal forum]

these guys might be slaves to their technocratic lords

but at least they're fashionable

i might be a purist

but painting mechanicum in anything except red is ew

[winter vessel]

these guys look like a grimdark version of Super Sentai

[rocky gale]

Zimmer always has the best nails

[arctic talon]

XANA II is displeased

[shell mason]

[fallen plaza]

Green and white is pretty good though

Like look at that, fucking circet boards on there scheme

[fallen plaza]

😁

[arctic talon]

Zhao Arkhad gaming

[opaque coyote]

what da heck is dat

[fallen plaza]

Look harder into it

You'll see

[opaque coyote]

ik it is mechanicus

but uhhhhhhh

what is the robot called

i don't wanna open up google images

[fallen plaza]

Look into its eyes

And it will tell you

[opaque coyote]

they are glowy blue eyes yes

[fallen plaza]

Kiss it

[opaque coyote]

ah found out what it is

also found the old image for it

💀

what the fuck is this lmao

[fallen plaza]

See? It worked

[plush mason]

pajama mech

[opaque coyote]

oh wow the mechanicum actually somehow made the image above into the Domitar class

holy shit

they actually innovated

[fallen plaza]

The conquerer is it's own thing

It's got nothing to do with the domitar

[opaque coyote]

oh shit i looked at the fandom wiki'

i just realized that

god fucking DAMMIT

no wait

the Lexicanum says the same thing

"The last type of war robot to enter Mechanicum production before the Horus Heresy, the Domitar was a variant of the sophisticated ancient Conqueror Class Robot.[1]"

[fallen plaza]

I guess it's probably

True

[opaque coyote]

I just found the Traitor coloring of the Conqueror class btw

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COVERED IN SHIT

THEY HAD A MINATURE???

PEOPLE ACTUALLY USED THIS??

[fallen plaza]

It's a product of it's time

This was typical quality for the time

[opaque coyote]

Yeah fair

Also apparently Peturabo actually used them as honor guards

Along with the Domitar

[fallen plaza]

The iron circle are apparently described differently from the books

Like they never described it as being based of the Domitar at all

[opaque coyote]

what the hell is this

[fallen plaza]

But it was probably a sculpting reason for it

[opaque coyote]

did the mechanicum love pajamas or something

[fallen plaza]

This is rogue trader era color schemes

[opaque coyote]

jesus christ

lemme actually look up some more

[fallen plaza]

Also these clearly aren't just mechanicum

[opaque coyote]

Damn the Dark Angels actually look sick in their original colors

[fallen plaza]

This was referenced in the Horus heresy

As this is there color scheme in 30k also

[fallen plaza]

Back when they weren't totally gay

[opaque coyote]

I like the slightly blue tint in the rogue trader photo tho

[fallen plaza]

That's probably the lighting of the photo

[opaque coyote]

tho that might be due to the photo quality

yeah

[opaque coyote]

unintentionally looks cool tho

[fallen plaza]

Eh

I don't see it

[opaque coyote]

what the hell is this

🤢

[fallen plaza]

Beauty

[opaque coyote]

hm my toaster just chimed

I wonder why

[storm jungle]

Saulgoodmander

[fallen plaza]

I'm glad they compromised and made the Marines black instead

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[storm jungle]

Also zimmer i didnt know you were a lady

now it explains a lot

[opaque coyote]

I actually fuck with the Novamarines color scheme

[storm jungle]

Nova Marines ironically never changed their scheme

prob because it actually looks pretty good

[fallen plaza]

Big banners in rogue trader were actually really baller though

[storm jungle]

We stan for cool heraldry

[opaque coyote]

I mean they look like this now

snoreee

[storm jungle]

ITS LITERALLY THE SAME THING

[fallen plaza]

Shitwrong

Meet bobby

Bow before bob

[opaque coyote]

I also like the Red Scorpions

[fallen plaza]

Too bad there lore is gay and lame

[opaque coyote]

The shade of blue is different, there is no red

they look like ultra marines but they decided to paint part of their armor white

[fallen plaza]

Look at this BALLER

He is STRUTTING

[storm jungle]

Ah yes my favorite chapter

the Nova MɒvoИ

[opaque coyote]

ah yes

new bolter pattern unlocked

the ??????

from segmentum fuck you

[storm jungle]

Cawl definitely did not cook.

never let bro into the forge-kitchenorum again

[opaque coyote]

Is this the equivalent of like

Going on a drug bender

Doing something

And then waking up and see what the fuck you did while high/drunk/etc.

[fallen plaza]

The "/" Tells me you've never drank before

[opaque coyote]

I can totally imagine Cawl getting high (somehow)

[opaque coyote]

Nope

[fallen plaza]

Thought so

[opaque coyote]

I'm 20, legally cannot drink

In america

Yet I can join the military and get shot

[fallen plaza]

Wait people actually listen to that?

[opaque coyote]

I mean I drank a can of beer before

Felt nothing

Cause it was just a regular can

[fallen plaza]

Well I'm sorry you had to try beer

[opaque coyote]

I was bored

Also uh depression meds don't mix well with alcohol

[opaque coyote]

Imperium Noble pets be like:

[fallen plaza]

Sounds like a challenge

[opaque coyote]

"Look at my pet Grox"

https://tenor.com/view/pitbull-owner-get-outofthe-car-dog-animal-gif-11871504

[fallen plaza]

Tank modellers on there way to chop there cock off to replace it with a smaller brass cock (it is to scale)

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-iron-man-hammer-iron-hammer-robert-downey-robert-downey-jr-gif-15959050

[opaque coyote]

Iron Hands when their cock doesn't vaporize the enemies of the Imperium (The Flesh is Weak)

Seriously tho one Iron Hands has probably turned their crotch into a gun

No one ever expects it

A greater daemon pins you down into a wall?

Crotch Bolter fire!

BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM

Besides it's not like SMs are interested in any naughty things.

Unless if they're ECs

But they're the exception not the rule

[fallen plaza]

You sound tired, here, have a Bob.

[opaque coyote]

Bob

[fallen plaza]

[rocky gale]

[storm jungle]

they aint afraid of no ghost

https://tenor.com/view/deathly-hallow-deathly-hallow-ghostbusters-meme-gif-5626968512995802487

[fallen plaza]

Me when when me the when

[storm jungle]

die

[fallen plaza]

You first

Woman

[arctic talon]

All the factions I collect are sub 50% LOL

it is what it is

[fallen plaza]

[rocky gale]

Flesheaters are my main

[arctic talon]

Sylvaneth are about as shit as I expected

from playing them ngl

its really awkward to play them rn

[rocky gale]

Bruh of course my friends collect Lumineth and Ogors and want to play

[rocky gale]

I know I am but what are you

..wait

[fallen plaza]

Erm

[rocky gale]

Otherway round

[fallen plaza]

uoy era tahw tub ma I wonk I?

[rocky gale]

[fallen plaza]

Also someone printed something I made

Specifically the rapiers

Not the gyat Marines

[rose thorn]

Better then 40k 10ths stats on launch

[rose thorn]

THEY ARE BAD FOR NO REASONGAHHHHH

In 9th you can make any terrain (except faction terrain) count as wild woods

So you can get your aura buffs still

[rocky gale]

But my poor Ghooooouuuulllssss

[crystal forum]

you made that thing by yourself?

[rocky gale]

[fallen plaza]

This was a very early creation of mine

So it's heavily kitbashed

You can check my cults page

Loken

[crystal forum]

fucker

actually call yourself loken

the gall

[fallen plaza]

I had only just finished horus rising when I made at account okay

A lot of the stuff there is old creations

[crystal forum]

link it

[fallen plaza]

Most in hindsight I don't think are good

[crystal forum]

i dont wanna find it

[fallen plaza]

Fine 😐

https://cults3d.com/en/users/Loken/3d-models

[crystal forum]

poop

wait

i've seen your creations before

[fallen plaza]

Really?

[crystal forum]

ffs man 101k downloads and you act like your stuff isnt good

[fallen plaza]

Well it's free

So of course people would horde files

Regardless of quality

[crystal forum]

my stuff is free and i dont even have 1k 😭

[fallen plaza]

My dracosan is amazing though

Peak design

[crystal forum]

damnit man i need to learn non cad modelling

[fallen plaza]

That's because I model trendy stuff

Which is like, SM

[crystal forum]

i'm about to drop a pretty baller design actually

i made a 4 inch vent port for elegoo saturn printers

[fallen plaza]

Hell yeah

Also I just realized my dracosan just reached almost 1k downloads

[crystal forum]

im going to make it for all the standard duct sizes and have magnetic options and everything

and make it free

free people of the tyranny of 3$ designs

[fallen plaza]

You know what would make your stuff download more?

Put tags on your creations

That's jt

That's how I got attention

[rose thorn]

Crying in the club as a flesh eater courts player

[crystal forum]

i do

[fallen plaza]

Show

Linkie

[arctic talon]

I'm so sad

they got rid of that

[crystal forum]

but my only creation is a life sized version of a very obscure mechanicus gun tbh

[arctic talon]

I missed overgrowing terrain

it was so fluffy

Like just

its mine now

[crystal forum]

so far i've had downloads from people with mechanicus pfp's

[fallen plaza]

Make tabletop stuff

You know what people need?

[crystal forum]

it took me a month just to make a gun

[fallen plaza]

A mechanicum style land raider

I never finished mine

[crystal forum]

dude that would take ages in cad

ill just keep making life sized versions of things

still need to make that arc pistol

but im also confident im going to help out a bunch of people with the saturn printer vent adapter

the existing models suck ass

[fallen plaza]

You should make it paid

[tough haven]

Doing the omnissiahs work

[fallen plaza]

Make money

I was stupid enough to not make money out of these

You shouldn't

And your probably more talented than me

[crystal forum]

im not taking weeks of my time to get like 40$ max

might as well not monetize it at that point

[fallen plaza]

My inner jew still says go for the money

But I get it

[crystal forum]

anyways check this out

[fallen plaza]

I'm jealous of you sometimes

3d builder can never make such precise stuff

[crystal forum]

the interior is hollow to save on material

and it's almost completely printable without supports

[fallen plaza]

I was lucky once to get a cheap ass commision fron a friend

[fallen plaza]

Now that's sick

[crystal forum]

the left plaque is the standard cover on the printer

so i just copied it and made it into an adapter

so i'll also post a model of the plaque that's printable for people who lost or broke it

i can stand on one foot on this thing and it doesnt crack

[tough haven]

Could increase the price

Or do things free for a while to build up a base

Or allow for people to get them for free but donate if they wish

People might be appreciative

[crystal forum]

i wanna think of the guy who wants to set up a resin printer and who can barely afford anything

so i'll just make this thing public domain in case they wanna modify it

but yeah this thing is ridiculously sturdy

i like making stuff way too good at its job

[tough haven]

Hence the optional donation option

Or a minimum donation for operating costs

Or wait, you don’t print the thing

Nvm

[crystal forum]

you can make more money printing things than modelling which is so stupid to me

even at work people think the 3 button presses i do to print stuff is impressive lol

[tough haven]

The mysteries of the omnissiah are unknown to the layfolk

You’re practically performing magic

Shaping matter to your will

[crystal forum]

the magic is mostly gone for me but when you start printing that's really what it feels like

it's great

@fallen plaza get a printer you FUCK

also how do you even model without testing afterwards

there's tons of little things that can't work properly with resin

[crystal forum]

yes enter the gungeon also has a lasgun

it's a sword for some reason

it references many many IP's

[rose thorn]

I know I just didn’t realize this was supposed to be a bolter riff

[crystal forum]

my favorite is the wind up gun from futurama

[storm jungle]

Jolter... 😭

[rose thorn]

I’m about to jace jarine in my jolter

[storm jungle]

[wintry scarab]

Could a space marine punch you so hard that you pop?

[opaque coyote]

100%

even without PA

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[wintry scarab]

Im probably just a sadist but i beg we get to see some hand to hand with space marines vs normal people in SM2 or the blur animations.

Or that "Tithes" show. Seen some clips of that and it goes kinda hard

[crystal forum]

pariah nexus has some really cool scenes

a space marine straight up breaks a zombie guardsman's wrists with little effort

[crystal forum]

thunderwarriors are even crazier

"The leg strength of even a heavily physically deteriorating Thunder Warrior made them capable of kicking completely through the torso of a normal human."

the lexi doesn't elaborate what kicking through a torso means

but it's safe to imagine it's not pleasant

[storm jungle]

I think kicking through a torso is basically kicking someone through a torso

fucked up stuff

[dusk patrol]

@storm jungle @viral halo @arctic talon

^important

[dusk patrol]

“Fuck I need a quick way to get my them across, and I can’t make costumes for shit….”

[arctic talon]

Big lore

[viral halo]

I fucking love nerd shit

[arctic talon]

Also isn’t there literally something in the water

It’s like cursed land or some shit

Right

[dusk patrol]

There legit is

[storm jungle]

bro the entire existence of Clock King being him missing a fucking court appointment due to considering relaxing and not being uptight for once in his life is fucking great

the future mayor who gave him this advice literally ruined his life

lmfao

[sour hornet]

I want a traitor force to root for, are thousand sons alr?

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are fine

like... they are literally just evil wizards

thats kind of it

[sour hornet]

I know Ahriman kinda screwed up a tiny but

[storm jungle]

and this isnt a bad thing

simplicity is sometimes better

[crystal forum]

why does he dress like a 1930's businessman

[viral halo]

Root for the word bearers they actually do stuff

[storm jungle]

b-

because the entire fucking show

takes place in a 40's aesthetic

you goddamn philistine

[crystal forum]

oh

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

They’re all evil

There

[storm jungle]

"they're all evil"

[dusk patrol]

Now pick who you think looks coolest

[viral halo]

Saw a comic about Optimus prime shooting up fent today

[storm jungle]

how little does that nail it down

[crystal forum]

traitor guardsman in the book saying he's here to liberate you from your masters as he swings a chainsword at you

way to fight for the proletariat

[storm jungle]

they should aspire to be like imperial guardsmen

[dusk patrol]

Liberate you from your lower body maybe

[storm jungle]

who are here to kill you for fighting to free yourself from slave labor

[arctic talon]

They’re liberating you from your savage ways, as they saw you in half

[storm jungle]

KEK

[dusk patrol]

Hey I can’t get tetanus from hugging most guardsmen

So they got that on them

[storm jungle]

I mean

depends

[viral halo]

I like how word bearers enslave planers and make the denizens build screaming gore towers

[storm jungle]

on the regiment

[dusk patrol]

I said most

[crystal forum]

STD's though...

[dusk patrol]

Jay

[storm jungle]

What in tarnation-

[dusk patrol]

Why do you always

[crystal forum]

they nasty

[viral halo]

Jay you dog you

https://tenor.com/view/netflix-marvel-the-punisher-punisher-gif-16927708

[dusk patrol]

What am I doing, grabbing their dick with an open wound Jay?

[sour hornet]

I mean

[crystal forum]

if that's what you're into

im not judging

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

Slaves to darkness?

[sour hornet]

real

[viral halo]

I knew a kid in college with a sexual cutting fetish

[dusk patrol]

I don’t need to know

Please don’t

[arctic talon]

[viral halo]

He’d have chick open his chest up with a switch blade while riding him

[dusk patrol]

He’s gonna tell us anyways isn’t he

[viral halo]

Dude was scarred up

[crystal forum]

where's the skip dialogue button when i need it

[storm jungle]

more like Slaves to Coomness

r/warhammersmut

[viral halo]

Slaves to Gooners

[storm jungle]

Me after I get kidnapped by r/grimdank users

[crystal forum]

what i'd give to have an animation of an arbites guy silently killing his way astartes style through heretics

[storm jungle]

the ending needs him being shot in the chin

[arctic talon]

I still wish they weren’t called slaves to darkness

All the abbreviations are terrible

[storm jungle]

to be fair the term gets dropped so many times in books its basically impossible not to lmao

[arctic talon]

STD’s, Slaves Ect.

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP

[arctic talon]

Yeah

But the abbreviations fucking suck

[storm jungle]

to be fair everyone mostly calls them Slaves

💀

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

as long as you arent in the South its prob fine

[arctic talon]

Which is a pretty shit nickname

[storm jungle]

it is what it is

[dusk patrol]

Better than command points

I love using CP personally

Or generating CP if that’s an option

Some factions are bigger fans of CPs than others

They get more use out of CP

[arctic talon]

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

God command points should get a new name

Stratagem point

[dusk patrol]

Maybe like Special Stratagems

[arctic talon]

[crystal forum]

YES

that would be fucking awesome

i want carnage and anger and VIOLENCE

sync the action to a beat

then at the very end he gets shot in the head and black screen no explanation

i want the viewer to be CONFUSED and BEFUDDLED

[dusk patrol]

I don’t get it

Ok but actually

An Arbites with an Iron Jaw would fuck so hard

[viral halo]

Skibidi skibidi on the wall, who is the most sigma of them all?

[crystal forum]

skeleton looking bionic with the helmet

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[viral halo]

WHAT

[crystal forum]

all you can see is his massive metal jaw telling you to surrender or die

[dusk patrol]

Clubs someone to death with his jaw

[dusk patrol]

[crystal forum]

i'd like a slice of that pizza

[dusk patrol]

There’s only one thing worse than a rapist

[crystal forum]

a child!

[storm jungle]

[shell mason]

thats me frfr

[plush mason]

wtf, did the gellar fields fail and the channel get possessed by the warp?

[dense salmon]

a warp storm blew through

[crystal forum]

me and eternal finally linked brainrot and that was the psychic shattering of reality you just saw

[fallen plaza]

I never test

It was only when I actually started scratch building models that decided to show concern for testing

Because well, i wanted them to be paid

[crystal forum]

nice

my thing fits my printer btw

it fucking works

I MADE THAT YEAH

[fallen plaza]

Hell yes

Does it fit properly?

[crystal forum]

yea

perfectly

first try

[fallen plaza]

Epic

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[fallen plaza]

Ive only tested one thing, and it was a dread i made

It was only partially tested before i got fed up with the person that volunteered to test it

[crystal forum]

lol

i could test your stuff

if that motivates you to model again

[fallen plaza]

I mean sure why not

Not the dread though

That thing was a legit nightmare to test

[crystal forum]

wdym

i can cut apart models and make them easier to assemble

it's very easy with CAD

[shell barn]

In the most simple terms why does everyone hate Erebus

[arctic talon]

He's kind of just an objectively terrible person and he's written as a person you'll love to hate

he is objectively a hatable character and is written to be a hate sink

[shell barn]

I’ve heard Chaos hates him too is that true?

[arctic talon]

depends

Some Wordbearers love him

others hate him

some don't even know about him

it depends as usual

[opaque coyote]

Okay so I was thinking of one of the Emperor's Eyes disguising themselves as a mutant

Problem is that I realized that one of the other characters is gonna be a Sister of Battle

So I'm wondering how I can somehow get them to interact with the SoB trying to immediately cap him lmao

Since he's disguised as a mutant

So she's gonna think he's a mutant

Also

Graphical glitch I think?

[sick escarp]

I highly doubt that, after what hadron said and I cropped it to early but notice the sides, that’s not a glitch

Okay the corners aren’t apart of that

But I have never seen that before and it’s to convenient

[opaque coyote]

It could be

Or it could just be a fucking wicked coincidence lmao

[sick escarp]

There’s no way my console is dying, it’s a series X

Not even a year old either

And if it was the game wouldn’t there be more reports?

[celest dome]

Wrong chat ?

[fallen plaza]

Wrong chat

[queen laurel]

wrong chat mate

[sick escarp]

I figured this would be a lore related thing

Sense you know, seeing weird things

[fallen plaza]

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/arachne-sentry-web-turret

[sour hornet]

Argel Tal

[plush mason]

he was one of the 3 main architects of the horus heresy and he killed Kharn's friend and fan fav Argel Tal

[dense salmon]

he is cartoonishly evil

a lot of old writing portrays the "bad guys" as very transparent and one-note

erebus is so evil it's actually hilarious

the same is also true of abaddon, old writing just makes him really unlikeable even as an antagonist

[arctic talon]

Tbh abbadon at least got better writing

[dense salmon]

yeah way better

it's still not great though

[arctic talon]

Erebus is def meant to be a hate sink though

[dense salmon]

abaddon has some redeeming qualities

erebus has none whatsoever

by design

[arctic talon]

Erebus’s redeeming quality is he’s stuck with Kor Pharon forever

[dense salmon]

Kharn:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fcl97l9kzeok71.jpg

[arctic talon]

Lol

[dense salmon]

it's always been entertaining that a lot of the heresy has some sort of crybaby backstory behind it

but erebus is just an asshole

no crybaby backstory

no real reason

[queen laurel]

Yo wolfy what do you think of the new orc changesfor dnd

[arctic talon]

Which ones

For orcs

[queen laurel]

the newest one

[arctic talon]

I’m going to still be running a majority of orcs as half orcs personally

The lore of Orcs hasn’t really changed beyond them having more body types then the classic super tall and bulky one

[queen laurel]

at least half orc goliaths can work now

Wanted an opportunity to try that but you know needed to homebrew

[arctic talon]

half gnome half orc

[queen laurel]

half orc dragonborn

[arctic talon]

Aasimar and tieflings being able to have biracial kids makes no sense

Because either the celestial and fiendish traits take over

Or they don’t

[fallen plaza]

Half Bulger have Jaw

[arctic talon]

Lol

[queen laurel]

at least an orc good guy doesn't put me on a stake

they're actually people now

i love a good old killing machine brute it but it's nice to be not decapitated just by being spotted

[arctic talon]

Tbh

Depends on the group of orcs

They’ve written in new groups that are like

Not just chaotic/neutral evil assholes

[queen laurel]

yeah which is a good thing

[arctic talon]

Something something society

Something

[queen laurel]

they also retconned Grummsh right

[fallen plaza]

This is why kinder joys are banned

[arctic talon]

He’s still chaotic evil

[queen laurel]

So did they receive the equivalent of the drow where they have their God who is evil but they can go to a good one

[arctic talon]

The gods got no changes

[queen laurel]

ok that makes sense

[arctic talon]

The main Orc god in the forgotten realms is an asshole, but there’s groups who worship other gods/other stuff Ect.

And by chaotic evil standards

He’s not too bad

Tbh

[queen laurel]

aight physically orcs are still not the brightest but strong right

[arctic talon]

It depends

Tbh

[queen laurel]

welp that works

[arctic talon]

Penalties from chosen race haven’t existed since 3e lol

3.5e did away with it

[plush mason]

isnt his backstory that he is nothin but an envious little shit? like his name isnt even Erebus its the name of a kid from the village he grew up in that had everything so he killed him and stole his name

[arctic talon]

Yeep

[queen laurel]

oh good shit

Now I just have to wait for a full orc mod to be added when patch 7 comes out

if someone even makes it to be fair

[arctic talon]

tbh

Maybe

idk

Half Orcs and Orcs kind of both occupy the same niche lol

regarding how they function

[queen laurel]

Yeah but since my taste now is you know chaotic neutral green giants that could cave in your skull I think I kind of understand why I pick orc

[arctic talon]

Tbf half orcs can do that still

Strong frame goes hard

[queen laurel]

yes but i am an Iron jaw fan

so full orc it is

[crystal forum]

woah skeletons

there's skeletons in fantasy?

[queen laurel]

Brother age of sigmar has a faction made of super skeletons

and of course normal skeletons

[crystal forum]

woah

spooky

i just bought a HH predator

kill me

[fallen plaza]

Yes

[fallen plaza]

Which one

[crystal forum]

support

no

wait

normal

[fallen plaza]

The mark 4?

[crystal forum]

what

deimos pattern

[opaque coyote]

I thought about like

Making up a scenario for a Plague Marine boss in Darktide

Basically you and your crew are sent on an unrelated mission.

Only for your Valkyrie to suddenly blow up and crash.

You land basically in the middle of one of the most chaos ridden hotspots in the entirety of Tertium

Lucky you!

Fighting your way through. You hear the sermon of a phelgm filled voice filled with plague

Chanting about the blessings of Grandfather Nurgle

And his wonderful gifts

His voice echoing into his helmet

Until you finally get to the sermon.

You see an assortment of enemies sitting on the pews. Focused on prayer as a bloated armor figure stands on top.

A plague marine.

[fallen plaza]

So this is like the beginning of most l4d2 campaigns but the boss reveal is like nurgloth from vt2

[opaque coyote]

The enemies get up from their pews as the Plague Marine greets us.

And then the desperate fight begins

[opaque coyote]

Pretty much

Also the fact that the Valkyrie was always a sort of safe haven

Like it's the load screen

So imagine seeing the load screen only to have a fucking explosion happen

[fallen plaza]

I always thought it was kinda lame how in most of the tide games the ending is always very safe

[opaque coyote]

The beginnings and endings are mostly safe

So having your safe mode of transport be suddenly blown up

Is very jarring

[opaque coyote]

Dreyko is the only one that isn't

And the extraction part is probably my favorife

[fallen plaza]

The one with the AA defence?

[opaque coyote]

The one with the uh

Plague tree

[fallen plaza]

Uh ok

You know what we actually need more?

Mutants that can throw you off a cliff

Because at this state mutants are really only mildly lethal when spammed

[opaque coyote]

I'm not sure if I used the right level name for it

But it's an investigation mission

Where the ending is to shove probes towards a plague tree with eyes

[fallen plaza]

Yeah that

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the extraction part is my favorite

[fallen plaza]

Anyways

[opaque coyote]

And I wish there was more

[fallen plaza]

Buff mutants

They suck

[opaque coyote]

I have trappers more tbh

[fallen plaza]

Trappers are decent

[opaque coyote]

The Mutants aren't bad.

It takes a while for them to actually damage you

Trappers can kiss my ass

I love it when they shoot through corners

[fallen plaza]

Mutants are there to give you a small nap time mid maelstrom

Trappers I think my issue personally is

There kinda annoying to dodge as they are less intuitive

And there net range is too short

I want them to be like the smoker from l4d2

[fallen plaza]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1068968520479678495/1279370175485054981/image0.jpg?ex=66d431d3&is=66d2e053&hm=f8658fd9407240b773b5dccd2981ba4fec1e7aeb41904e5d12fa33a87257fb23&

@outer wave

Look at this little guy showing his support for zeon

[old acorn]

So, if a guard regiment happened to sport purple paint on their armor, would they be able to sneak up on a bunch of green boyz?

[queen laurel]

that belief does not exist for orks it's meme lore

[rocky gale]

Meme lore and it’s consequences

[queen laurel]

yep

[crisp heath]

as far as i understand ork lore, it might work if there´s a planet-size waagh number of orks and then it might work for a single ork or two

[celest dome]

That's wrong

There is nothing about purple that is currently associated with sneaky

[queen laurel]

yes as the cactus said

No power is associated with purple

[crisp heath]

if the logic goes, very simply, that ork beliefs can affect reality, then it should work in the way i described.

maybe i should add, invisibility for maybe 2 seconds

[queen laurel]

it's not that powerful, they are still rooted in logic of their universe, they can only really massage reality

their guns aren't bolted together pieces of scrap it's literally a functional gun

[celest dome]

Unless purple isn't associated to sneakiness

[crisp heath]

then we need a transcendental deduction of pure ork categories

[queen laurel]

yes that too

[crisp heath]

what is it associated with then

[celest dome]

Ork logic is physic lube

[queen laurel]

nothing

[celest dome]

NOTHING

[queen laurel]

it's just that

purple

[crisp heath]

good, then it can be associated with something. and that can be invisibility

[celest dome]

Plenty of colours aren't associated to anything 💀

[crisp heath]

even more potential

[queen laurel]

the colors that have powers are

blue luck

red speed

black toughness

green best

and yellow being firepower

other than that literally nothing else

[celest dome]

Sure, but it's not, purple sneak is just meme lore that get thrown around like those Guardsmen that were shooting at orks by shouting 'gun noises'

[queen laurel]

yeah and it's also one of the oldest jokes

[crisp heath]

well, i´m not emotionally attached to purple sneak, i just thought it through from start to finish and i came to the result that in principle, it is possible in the limited way i described, even if it´s not in the lore and even if no ork currently does associate purple with sneak

🤷‍♀️

[crisp heath]

seriously though, has this ever been done? as in, what is the limit of pure ork reason, and therefore what are the limits of the possibility of ork magic

[queen laurel]

orks use actual camouflage

as i said it only massages reality it is very limited like for example

it can fire a broken gun a few more times before completely breaking down

or you might be a bit more lucky than usual if you color yourself blue but it's not super luck

[crisp heath]

yeah but "massages reality" is not a very clear concept. i could say that orks could in theory "massage reality" to make one of their own invisible or very translucent for half a second

[queen laurel]

it's reality duct tape

[celest dome]

Ork colour theory work as 'physic' lube
It doesn't give new effect, it doesn't change effects, it just make it slightly more of the thing.
A black cardboard will still be a tough as cardboard
A red bicycle will be fast, for a bicycle
A rock painted yellow won't explode, but a grenade painted yellow will explode slightly more

[queen laurel]

yeah

[celest dome]

Then Weirdboy stuff is just Psyker stuff

[crisp heath]

so why couldn´t they reality duct tape the concept of translucence with the concept of existence

[celest dome]

Well Saint stuff

[queen laurel]

that's very little to the thing but it's noticeable enough

[crisp heath]

could it make it slightly less of the thing?

[queen laurel]

Because what you're saying is that the purple color literally bends light around it to become invisible for a few seconds

it's not that ridiculous

[celest dome]

Because that's not how it work in lore

[queen laurel]

yeah give small benefits and buffs and stuff but it's not that strong

[crisp heath]

seems less ridiculous than a gun that´s mechanically broken which keeps firing for a few more seconds. and maybe there are other ways to purport invisibility than the breaking of light

[crisp heath]

i just keep hearing "that´s not how it works" but no deduction (explanation) of its effects

[celest dome]

Colour magic basically just increase already present stuff
Take a car, it goes fast, paint it red, it'll go slightly faster

[queen laurel]

their mechanics are actual mechanics the tech is just being held more because of their power, like if you fill in the missing stuff it could genuinely work as an actual tech like for example commissar yarrick

[queen laurel]

this

[crisp heath]

if it "just doesn´t happen in the lore" then yeah i can accept that, but that doesn´t mean it isn´t in principle possible following the logic

[queen laurel]

blue takes your luck and makes you a bit more luckier

[crisp heath]

could it decrease present stuff?

[queen laurel]

black slightly increases the toughness of your armor

[crisp heath]

if it could decrease present stuff then it could also reduce visibility

🤷‍♀️

[queen laurel]

stuff like that

[queen laurel]

ohh yeah ork magic only works on orks

So on the visibility of the enemy they just look stupid

[crisp heath]

but then how do their cars travel faster?

[celest dome]

You'd need to find something that is already translucent, then find a paint that they thing make thing more translucent.
Which doesn't exist in lore

[crisp heath]

shouldnt it only look to them as though they reached the target, even though they havent?

[celest dome]

Because Orks are the one using the cars ?

[queen laurel]

because ork cars are made by orks

[celest dome]

And for Orks

[crisp heath]

and orks are made of ork

[celest dome]

Stealing an ork red car won't be faster than a non red car

[crisp heath]

if orks can affect the speed at which a car travels and it actually does travel faster, then an ork should be able to reduce the visibility of itself

[celest dome]

(if you're not an ork)

[queen laurel]

it's not that deep it's literally just

it adjusts reality very slightly to suit them on their beliefs

but it doesn't work on non orks

[crisp heath]

exactly, it´s not that deep. so why couldn´t they in principle become invisible

[celest dome]

🧱

[queen laurel]

because they're bending light around themselves with color

that's just ridiculous

Even for them

like they are still grounded to the rules of warhammer

[crisp heath]

how come invisibility requires a physicalist explanation, but cars increasing speed or orks becoming more lucky does not

lol

[celest dome]

Why can't Orks then fly by painting themselves orange...

[crisp heath]

yeah. why can´t they?

[queen laurel]

because their power doesn't allow them to do that

[crisp heath]

presumably, because it´s not in the lore

[crisp heath]

if their power allows them to affect the velocity of machines, it could allow them to affect the visibility of their bodies.

[celest dome]

Because cars are already fast, and orks are already somewhat lucky.
Orks aren't somewhat invisible
It increase already present stats. Not giving new ones

[crisp heath]

but orks are somewhat visibile

[queen laurel]

The red paint it just makes the vehicle slightly faster by like using their psychic field to make it a bit faster

[crisp heath]

ok well, after all this i think the strongest point i see is, and to put this formally, "ork magic can only increase property p of entity e"

"invisibility is not a property, but a lack of a property, therefore it cannot be affected"

so it can only ever have a positive effect, not a negative one (taking the logical meaning of these terms)

i just think that there should be a way to think of invisibility as a synthetic, and therefore positive, property

maybe you could think of the colouration, or the density of a colour, as such a property that could be affected

[celest dome]

It's mostly that turning invisible would be too much for the colour to do.
Like you can't paint a rock red and expect it to just start moving at rapid speed.
If there was a colour that helped sneaking and you used something to turn invisible (ask the Mekboy, they might have something)
And then did both at once you would be 'more invisible' than if you only used the Mekboy thing
But that colour doesn't exist in lore

[crisp heath]

thereby we would also not require a strong physicalist explanation of "they have to break the light around them" if we just think as an ork thinks

[crisp heath]

alright, let´s just end this with "it doesn´t exist in the lore" because that´s the only satisfying answer that seems to be there

i´ll go play the game now, don´t be mad at me for breaking this off boys

[queen laurel]

yeah or the mek can just make you an invisble field

[queen laurel]

We literally said this

it doesn't exist

[crisp heath]

and i said from the beginning that that wasn´t the point

just because it isn´t being done lore-wise doesn´t explain why. using the lore mechanics, it is strictly impossible

[crisp heath]

[queen laurel]

And we also provided explanations why it wouldn't work so you know there's that

[crisp heath]

yeah but they´re not good and i pointed out why

and then i said because i´m not getting a satisfactory answer, i´ll go play the game now

which is exactly what i´ll do

[queen laurel]

and you expect them to be?

on the setting like this riddled with not the best explanations?

[crisp heath]

but you can have the last word i guess

[shell mason]

[dusk patrol]

You can just say “I don’t like the given mechanics of the universe and lore as it’s presented and prefer my headcanon”

[crisp heath]

my god dude

[dusk patrol]

Which is fine

[crisp heath]

no i don´t, but then i would also expect agreement on this

[dusk patrol]

I mean you’re trying to say people aren’t answering your question fine, they are

You just don’t like what you’re hearing

[crisp heath]

as i said, i am not emotionally attached to anything, i merely pointed out that it is not impossible lore-wise, with the mechanics in the lore itself, completely independent of how i feel about it

[crisp heath]

it´s not that i don´t "like" what i´m hearing, it´s that it´s objectively not logically sound

[dusk patrol]

Nothings impossible but given the waggghhhh mechanics as we know them, no it doesn’t work that way

That can always change

[crisp heath]

ok so why doesn´t it work

[dusk patrol]

Because it doesn’t warp reality like that

[queen laurel]

because that power is not that strong like we said

[dusk patrol]

It’s reality lubricant

[queen laurel]

yes

very limited in what it does

[dusk patrol]

It won’t make a gun fire when it has no bullets

[crisp heath]

we are just completely repeating the whole conversation now lol

back to square one

[dusk patrol]

It will make a gun less likely to misfire or jam though

[crisp heath]

just go read from the beginning i guess lol

[dusk patrol]

I did

[queen laurel]

yeah or you know make a vehicle slightly faster if you paint it red

[dusk patrol]

That’s why I’m saying you’re being rude by acting like people didn’t give a perfectly good answer that you just don’t like

[crisp heath]

then why do you repeat things that have already had a counterpoint 😭

[crisp heath]

i don´t "act" like it, i gave reasons as to why they really aren´t perfectly good answers.

[dusk patrol]

Because just because you declare it unsatisfactory doesn’t make it so

You want it to be one way when it’s not in the lore we’re given

[crisp heath]

i do not "just declare it", i explain why it is so.

[queen laurel]

yeah it's not a good answer but it's an answer literally implanted to the universe of the fictional setting whether you like it or not it's the real explanation

[dusk patrol]

You didn’t

[crisp heath]

the answer given in the universe points to it being in principle possible

[crisp heath]

then show me how i didn´t