40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

in kill team

but there's rules for generic guard and scions

[arctic talon]

Compendium teams are dying with the next edition

[crystal forum]

oh

[arctic talon]

Compendium teams fucking suck

They got no flavor

[crystal forum]

my dick has more flavor

[arctic talon]

Prolly

I wouldn’t know

[crystal forum]

😔

why does deathwatch not get more attention

they're like grey knights without the plot armour

[sour hornet]

you've stated it

deathwatch are merely rad as hell

they aren't "bathing in sororitas blood" badass

[gray umbra]

Why have shiny pauldron when u can be the shiny

[dusk patrol]

I’d rather be taller than a normie in power armor

God I hope GKs get an update

[dense dawn]

The biggest boys

[arctic talon]

[crystal forum]

idk why people dont like that inquisitor model

it fucking slaps

i love humans in power armour

[dusk patrol]

It’s preference, I do too but not this model.

[tough haven]

they're cool as shit

[viral halo]

they had two awesome books by steve parker who GW then let go and squatted the faction

[crisp heath]

i´d have preferred deathwatch over squats smh

[tough haven]

I would have preferred Deathsqats actually

[winter vessel]

my P.E teacher used that term once for squat exercises

[crystal forum]

nothing gets me less motivated to work out than being forced to

[sour hornet]

prolly cause he's as fat as an astartes

I always envisioned human power armor to basically be the crysis nanosuit

not "astartes but even more golden"

[storm jungle]

Power armor especially human ones are made to be chunky

Theres no form-fitting power-armor since it kinda defeats the point of the suit and the aesthetic it represents.

The dislike for the Coteaz model comes from him just not looking like Coteaz at any capacity to begin with.

[crystal forum]

power armour being fat is the whole point

it's powered so you can have heavier armour

[plush mason]

in many cases its powered because its so heavy

take out the power source and the person inside cant move

ugh still almost a month away from the rogue trader dlc :/

[crystal forum]

dont worry you can rogue trade at home

just sell drugs

[plush mason]

lol

[wintry scarab]

Is it true that SM2 will have a limit lock on classes? So if you cant have 2 tactical in one match on the same team?

[arctic talon]

PVE yes

PVP you can have 2 of each one max

[tough haven]

I just want deathwatch

The fandom doesnt like xenos

[crystal forum]

@viral halo https://youtu.be/7KXuhDQiTLA?si=Eek1SutIzxCCsMRO

i see why you thought he built the titan in a day

this man is a machine

[crystal forum]

same!

which is why deathwatch needs love

[tough haven]

I agree

[viral halo]

I like EOB

Wholesome

I wonder if I’ll ever build my knights

[crystal forum]

plural???

and here i thought my pile of shame was bad

i vow to never get to that level

[green loom]

Oh I just saw this

[rose thorn]

ITS SUCH A GOOD MODELLLLL

[green loom]

I read 130 pages today

Very epics

[crystal forum]

wow

[sour hornet]

yeah I found out people hate aeldari

im still picking them though, im a leaf lover at heart

[arctic talon]

depends tbh

Online in a lot of places people are fucking weird

I don't get it

[tough haven]

its pretty much most xenos since they get a fraction of what imperials get

[sour hornet]

they start role-playing at me like they actually live in the Imperium

legitimately weird at times

[arctic talon]

I hate larping online 💀

in like

just a normal fucking conversation

[sour hornet]

getting the litany of hate spammed in your YT mentions

bro talk normal I'm begging you

[tough haven]

I do it occasionally for like a sentence or two for funny

but if it annoys people I stop

[opaque coyote]

"hey what's up"

"FEAR ENSURES LOYALTY! WHERE DO YOU NEED ME?"

"uh what?"

"I WILL NOT FAIL. ON MY SOUL IT SHALL BE DONE."

[tough haven]

I'm only "the imperial inquisition" because my regular name is "The Spanish Inquisition"

And I thought it fit

[arctic talon]

I don't care about larpy names and shitposts

I just think its fucking weird

when it happens out of nowhere

[opaque coyote]

Bro some people just talk like they're actually an Imperial

Just as ignorant too

[tough haven]

I doubt 95% of them are larping as "nameless factorum worker dying of lung cancer"

innacurate

[opaque coyote]

Hey guys I'm back from my 19 hour work shift

How are y'all. I only got two tumors today

[tough haven]

Imperium lovers when they say "I dont wanna be worked to death in a factory" like bro thats what you asked for

[opaque coyote]

I think it tells a lot that people usually VOLUNTEER for the IMPERIAL GUARD

The Imperial Guard

[tough haven]

The main two options you get are dreg that dies horribly, or imperial guardsman fighting the nightmare creatures and dies horribly

[tough haven]

I mean I'd rather die doing something that might maybe be a little fun

vs just mind numbing back breaking labor

at least I can see another world or maybe witness sunlight while doing those things

[raven stone]

But no you see, all the stereotype Imperial lovers imagine themselves fit enough to be a SPESS MAHREEN

So they get all the upsides of Macho Masculinity with 0 downsides.

Apparently.

[sacred ginkgo]

You might even die relatively painlessly

[tough haven]

horrible nightmarish treatment that would kill 80% of them

[tough haven]

true

[raven stone]

Indeed!

[tough haven]

Love how space marines get a whole arc to turn to chaos while normal humans get "uhh um uhh, chaos is a disease so they became evil"

[opaque coyote]

Despite the fact that being a Space Marine is also horrifying

[tough haven]

Counterpoint, cool guy with gun that goes boom

[opaque coyote]

Fair

[raven stone]

Rogue Traders and Radical Inquisitors are, realistically, the only 2 roles that will EVER have a chance to have some degree of morality similar to 21st Century decency in the 40k verse. Probably Tau as well.

[opaque coyote]

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I think the Aeldari also are generally chill

[tough haven]

Horrible nightmare existence

[opaque coyote]

If you're one of them

[tough haven]

constant melencholy and anxiety

nothing is good in 40k unless you get the 0.5% roll and thats the point

I would just pray im an ogryn

[raven stone]

I was about to say, if you assume racism against a completely foreign sentient species is an acceptable standard, then yes XD.

[opaque coyote]

Apparently it's actually quite pleasant.

At least compared to being a human being in the setting.

The only real downside is

Again

Getting your soul eaten if you either attract too much attention or die

[sacred ginkgo]

.5 might be a highball estimate

[opaque coyote]

They actually live in a post scarcity society

[tough haven]

counter point, orks is the perfect society, if you're an ork that is

[opaque coyote]

I mean you are also free to choose your own path and pursue your own interests

[tough haven]

perfect economy

[opaque coyote]

Yeah makes sense

Unless if you're a grot

[tough haven]

Grots generally kinda accept their place

[sour hornet]

they literally call me a knife-ear like they're a militarum grunt on patrol

[tough haven]

even though they hate it

[raven stone]

Partly GW borked the lore by making Marines the main drivers of Horus Heresy instead of the humans.

[storm jungle]

Pretty much the only threat they have is dying and having your soulstone destroyed.

Otherwise they are prob the best faction to live as in 40k all things considered lol

[sour hornet]

it's why I picked them

also you made them sound very cool

[storm jungle]

lol ty

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the Aeldari have it good

Too bad they're a bunch of whiny bitches sometimes

But tbf

[tough haven]

40k be like "Space marines are only a tool to serve humanity"
Then 80% of lore is just space marine BS

[opaque coyote]

A lot of factions are whiny bitches sometimes

[storm jungle]

Everyone more or less has lost something to some degree

[opaque coyote]

Insert Horus Heresy here

[rose thorn]

i really really wanna like eldar so much lol

[tough haven]

I do too

[raven stone]

The awkward moment when your super soldier is your flagship faction instead of the normal humans.

[rose thorn]

they ened more books

[tough haven]

I honestly would pick farsight enclaves if im a human

[opaque coyote]

Really their lore is great.

It's too bad a lot of their books are written by Gav Thrope

[storm jungle]

Most eldar books are crap yeah dont expect much

[opaque coyote]

SUFFERING BUILDS CHARACTER.

[storm jungle]

Me when an aspect warrior dies from wooden splinters

[sour hornet]

You got marines taking up like 70% of the BL marketshare

[rose thorn]

i liked harliquins alot tho

[dusk patrol]

Pfft, sounds like something someone without metal hands would say

[rose thorn]

i think they were one of the most unique 40k things

rip

[raven stone]

On the one hand I still prefer Rogue Trader/Radical Inquisitor, on the other hand I also think GW are cowards for not having Tau themed human kits.
Even if only as alternate Fire Warrior builds.

[sour hornet]

tell me you're joking

[storm jungle]

it gets worse

[sour hornet]

[opaque coyote]

Also ik this will never happen but I kinda wish that we got a game where we play as an aspect warrior

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

Tbh I kinda imagine it as like

[storm jungle]

you did with that shit 40k game

[opaque coyote]

Extremely fast paced

[storm jungle]

Lost Crusade?

or whatever tf

the battlefield-esque one

[rose thorn]

chokes an aspect of khaine to death

[opaque coyote]

I will choke myself like that one MF which choked an Avatar of Khaine

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

They are literally MADE OUT OF METAL

[storm jungle]

its not even that

you will literally melt or catch on fire before you even get THAT close to it

[opaque coyote]

THEY LITERALLY VOMIT OUT MOLTEN BRONZE

[storm jungle]

its about as bad as one getting infected by a genestealer

IT ISNT ORGANIC

WHAT THE FUCK GAV

[dusk patrol]

Then why do they have necks? Are they stupid?

[opaque coyote]

Wait did an Avatar of Khaine seriously get infected

[storm jungle]

Hammer: Arkham 40,000

[opaque coyote]

By a genestealer

[storm jungle]

he did it in the 2nd Ynnari novel

where theres a GSC craftworld

lmao

[dusk patrol]

We try to not think of those episodes

[opaque coyote]

That is so fucking stupid I can't even

Wha

[raven stone]

…what the fuck, and I thought CS Goto multilayer spam was bad…

[storm jungle]

yeah dont ge tme started

like in-lore it doesnt work

the eldar literally grew so desperate

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbh that sounds like a cool idea?

[storm jungle]

they wanted to get infected

[opaque coyote]

Okay nvm

[storm jungle]

they get purged later

[opaque coyote]

That's stupid

[storm jungle]

thank fuck

Yeah they whine about how slaanesh's gaze is on them wherever they go

BRO YOUR SOUL IS GONNA GO TO HER EVEN WHEN YOU DIE

[sour hornet]

I'm starting to not have the highest opinion of this gav thorpe fella

[storm jungle]

IT DOESNT MATTER

[storm jungle]

hes good at worldbuilding

terrible at anything else

[sour hornet]

apparently not

[opaque coyote]

Gav Thropes books are actually just Imperial Propaganda.

That's my HC now

It's literally the same MF who wrote the Uplifting Guardsman Primer

[storm jungle]

Yeah at the end of the Path books as their craftworld is getting invaded they literally beg the space marines/guardsmen attacking them to stop to explain they were tricked into the act

like, jesus dude

[opaque coyote]

"The weak and feeble Aeldari turned to the foul Genestealers to gain more powerful.

Fortunately the noble and powerful angels of the Emperor purged them with bolter and flame before they could spread any further."

[storm jungle]

Oh no it was the Ynnari

that uh did the purging

because like yeah what the fuck else would they do

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

but anyway yeah, pain

[raven stone]

At least they kept it strictly an Eldar matter.

[opaque coyote]

Like the Ynnari are such a cool idea

And then they manage to make them the worst books

[tough haven]

Cool concept, dumb execution

[storm jungle]

Ynnari basically failed as a faction from being a soup faction on tabletop and also not having anything good on the lore department

[tough haven]

I like the clowns

[opaque coyote]

Like come on you could have a mixture of like

Aeldari and Drukhari stuff in it

[tough haven]

I just wanna be a normal guy

[raven stone]

I get the feeling Agents Codex might be a prelude to try to do Ynnari again.

[tough haven]

and also have nothing to do with the imperium, maybe as a someone working under a fun RT (Not dogmatic)

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I kinda wanna make a picture of like

A Tau propaganda poster

[storm jungle]

Okay but the thing is

the Inquisition IS a soup faction

thats literally built into their lore for 20 years now

[opaque coyote]

Like "This is an enemy against diversity"

And shows a Space Marine eating children

[storm jungle]

an Inquisitor is a RPG gamemaster that just takes any unit/character he wants

[opaque coyote]

Which tbh they probably have done

[storm jungle]

the Ynnari was just clunkily done

[sour hornet]

I just go for the cushiest job possible and just assume I'll be plopped down as a hive noble or something.

[dusk patrol]

That’s disgusting xenos children are filthy and their brains are useless with no good info

[raven stone]

Depends on if GW grows sense (which they are very weak at), but they can do something like “emissary of Ynnari” style thing to create an Ynnari equivalent.

[sour hornet]

also humans in 40k are so far from us I feel more at home w/ the Eldar

[opaque coyote]

Nah trust me man the brain is the best part

You can experience their fear right before they die!

[storm jungle]

Eldar society is literally just you doing whatever you want.

[opaque coyote]

But yeah I kinda wanna make Tau Propaganda posters since that sounds fun

[storm jungle]

they literally got no police on craftworlds

and anyone thats a vendor gives out shit for free

lol

[opaque coyote]

Basically you pursue a path for a good amount of time

[storm jungle]

Yeah its like me being a discord mod now

then i get bored

and become a lawyer

then i get bored

and become a surfer

etc

but the reality is our lives are short and we suck

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think there's literally a path where you're essentially a fast food worker

[sacred ginkgo]

and the way we're built means we can only really use the part in the middle

[storm jungle]

Any job yeah.

[dusk patrol]

Idk there’s no Path of the Internet Janitor

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

"Reportedly very few Aeldari choose that path for fear of falling to Slaanesh and getting their souls taken prematurely."

[storm jungle]

mood tbh

[opaque coyote]

Either that or Khorne

[sour hornet]

sounds unfathomably more rad than being factorum gruel shoveling coal into a building-sized blast furnace for 12 hours

[storm jungle]

Pretty much!

[opaque coyote]

Actually do Chaos Eldar exist?

[storm jungle]

Yes but very small-like

because uh

most eldar are not morons

and know that if you serve chaos you are fucked

[opaque coyote]

Fair

[storm jungle]

lol

[rocky gale]

No brother, the studio favours me

[opaque coyote]

Still though I can imagine one or two desperate souls like

Falling to Khorne instead

Or Nurgle

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much, Eldar dont do any manual labor unless they want to. Their technology is still very advanced and beyond most factions.

[opaque coyote]

Their Technology is also barely even technology

[sacred ginkgo]

"everything sucks but killing things is REALLY fun now!"

[opaque coyote]

It's basically fucking magic

[storm jungle]

Yep lol

its the same with necrons

[sour hornet]

sick

[storm jungle]

casual pocket dimension sniper

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbf a lot of 40k things are basically just magic

But Aeldari don't even use metal

So

[storm jungle]

they do actually

[opaque coyote]

Wait really

[storm jungle]

wraithbone is just the major building material

they use other substances too

[opaque coyote]

Ah yeah makes sense

[storm jungle]

Yeee

[opaque coyote]

Also despite Ceramite not being metal

It sure does act

A lot like metal

[storm jungle]

• Wraithbone
• Nano-wafers
• Ghost-stone
• Firestone
• Starmetal
• Wishstone
• Psychoplastics
• Armourcrys
• Whispersteel
• Ghostplate

heres a few i noted while reading

[opaque coyote]

Even has the -ite in the name

[sour hornet]

mechanicus has technology, but it looks like an octopus had sex with metal tubing

[storm jungle]

my homies at admech know what they are doing

[opaque coyote]

Armorcrys

Mfs grab a plate and it starts crying

[sour hornet]

are you sure?

[dusk patrol]

[opaque coyote]

Yeah totally

They just gotta follow the rite of percussive maintenance.

[sour hornet]

they keep grabbing incense and rubbing my car with baby oil

[storm jungle]

god i wish i could find that admech quote

its literally a wall of text of religious nonsense

and the bottom is

• Random techpriest before allowing a artillery gun to fire

lol

[sour hornet]

how do people become techpriests?

do they just nab people?

[storm jungle]

Basically you gotta be born on a forgeworld

or have admech parents

its not a fun ladder

lol

[sour hornet]

is that first one good?

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

you are mostly born as a slave

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the Admech actually do know a lot of science concepts. Like physics.

Their computers are also far more advanced than anything we possibly have.

The problem is that their process is usually just filled with religious dogma and bullshit. So their knowledge is kinda not used

It's like working in IT

Except with a lot more prayer

And oil

[crystal forum]

praise the holy machinations of this propellant guided device. it gives us faith in the omnissiah's will by forging its way through a barrel in the same way that us mere mortals trudge along the path of righteousness

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah and also slavery

...

Actually that part is the same

[storm jungle]

Me when im about to shove my thingy in my friend's a-

[sour hornet]

so is it like a slave crucible where the least starved one gets to wear the red robes?

[storm jungle]

Uhhh again it depends

basically unless you are born to techpriest parents it gets complicated

You can be picked and mentored due to seeming talented

Or because you show promise/performed some "miracle"

Or just "Hey you know what you are doing, prove yourself and ill make you an adept"

[opaque coyote]

It's like how a Chinese peasant can occasionally become Emperor through complicated means

[storm jungle]

etc etc

[storm jungle]

This yeah

[opaque coyote]

AKA pressing the on and off switch

[storm jungle]

Its not impossible its just hard, the cult mechanicus is a awful society

its literally corporate life

but your co-worker or boss can just kill you for no reason

lol

[crystal forum]

metal as fuck

[sour hornet]

tech priest parents?

[crystal forum]

the idea of admech having children is funny right

[opaque coyote]

I think some are literally just born in a bat

[sour hornet]

these guys are clapping cheeks?

you're serious

[opaque coyote]

Canonically Cain actually fucked one

But tbf that's when she was low ranking

And had most of her fleshy bits intact

[sour hornet]

Okay this makes sense

[storm jungle]

Not all techpriests are a mess of wires, some look pretty human minus some bionics.

[opaque coyote]

He meets her later looking properly "Mechanicus" looking. But apparently she somehow still looks hot.

[crystal forum]

time to play quasimorph and pretend i'm cleansing khorne demons

[opaque coyote]

Also if you climb the Mechanicus corporate ladder and become a Magos

You can have multiple bodies

Like

Literally just multiple bodies

[arctic talon]

some tech priests are way less this way

[sour hornet]

some, or most?

[arctic talon]

also the one Cain fucked had like 3 mechadendrites?

[crystal forum]

still the idea of admech going through parenthood

[arctic talon]

most low ranking priests are only 50% machine

mostly internal

[sour hornet]

oh

[arctic talon]

maybe a few external bits

[crystal forum]

do you think they get red robe onesies for babie admech

[arctic talon]

yes

[sour hornet]

adorable

[opaque coyote]

Similar to most religious organizations

Some are more chill with the whole replacement thing. And also don't really care if you forget to chant while repairing your lasgun.

While others will turn you into a servitor

If you DARE ADD A FLASHLIGHT TO THAT BOLTER WITH DUCT TAOE

[storm jungle]

man i do have some like

wild techpriest OCs

[crystal forum]

SHOW THEM

[storm jungle]

Kapek is one of my favs i got commissioned

[crystal forum]

oh nvm

[storm jungle]

he has a drill nose

what a cutie

[opaque coyote]

Canonically Tech Priests have killed Guardsmen and Penal Battalion "soldiers" for like

Literally just changing their gun slightly to suit their needs

They don't do it often though

Most don't even bother tbh

[sour hornet]

Isn't that what our cosmetic lady got turned into?

[opaque coyote]

Only the hyper religious ones do it

[opaque coyote]

Yyp

[storm jungle]

Yeah she did

she was a wage slave then

now shes a mecha wage slave

[crystal forum]

can i buy a toaster from admech

[storm jungle]

its organic

you get oil

oh

[crystal forum]

no

[sour hornet]

is she okay???

[crystal forum]

toaster

[arctic talon]

yes prolly

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

but not directly

[arctic talon]

she's lobotomized

so no

[storm jungle]

SHES LOBOTIMIZED

[arctic talon]

not really

[opaque coyote]

she's A SERVITOR

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT

[storm jungle]

Shes basically me but more dead

[sour hornet]

Is she like trapped in her own head

[storm jungle]

oh man

[sour hornet]

thankfully she's gone

[crystal forum]

she became an amazon worker

[storm jungle]

someone explain them the thingy

[opaque coyote]

Just died of the crime of Heresy as well, she's probably still sentient

[arctic talon]

which thingy

[opaque coyote]

Screaming internally inside while their body moves and talks without their consent

[arctic talon]

do I get the servitor factory excerpt?

[storm jungle]

yes

show em

[arctic talon]

this is tech heresy

explictly

[sour hornet]

this is why I asked if she was okay!!!

[opaque coyote]

Fuck no lmao

[sour hornet]

good lord that is awful

[opaque coyote]

It's the Imperium

[arctic talon]

The cold smell hit me like a brick. Like a meat store, where astringents can’t hide the smell of incipient rot. There were notes of faeces to go with the blood and decay. The sound was the worst.

Shouting, screaming, praying, weeping, all the cries of human terror and misery.

I’m not a squeamish man, and nor do I spare tears for those who deserve punishment, but what I saw in that processorium haunts me still.

Naked human beings were standing in a switchbacked line between high fences. Outside the fences Adeptus Mechanicus menials in environment suits stood guard with shock goads in hand. The people, all mature men and women, were shepherded down the caged walk like livestock. And they were food beasts being led to the slaughter, meat for the ravenous appetite of the Machine-God. I grew up lucky enough to eat real meat. I was unlucky enough to see where it came from – another gift of my father on another damn tour of my family’s various businesses. The manufactorum produced servitors, but it was more akin to an abattoir than a workshop. Every surface was easily cleanable. Large plastek flaps divided areas from each other. Servitors with spray units surgically attached to their backs prowled about, hosing filth into slit drains set into the perfectly smooth, slanted floors. We walked above all this, past sentry pods on spikes occupied by galvanic rifle-armed snipers. Our path went from one end of the hall to the other, and I could see pretty much the whole sorting process, beginning to end.

As the line slowly advanced, the people were passed through various scanning devices, most of them mounted in ugly, functional arches that let out a constant series of acceptance chimes. Occasionally, one would let out an angry blare, and the indicator lumens would flash red. The rejected person was then swallowed up by a trapdoor opening beneath their feet. From these pits wafted a hideous stench, and the grinding sounds of industrial mincers. One rejected man grabbed on to the lip and hung there, arms and hands bloodied, shouting a stream of defiant profanities. Guards lined the grating either side of him and shocked him until he fell. The adepts wouldn’t even waste bullets on these people.

The trapdoor flipped up, and the next terrified person was ushered forward.

A number of pneumatic gates separated the people from each part of the process, snapping open and shut with bone-crushing force.

Violent metal arms snatched them up and spread-eagled them in the air, and a servitor shearer shaved them all over. At another they were subjected to a high-pressure counterseptic wash whose chemical stink made me choke from a hundred feet away. More scanners, more rejects winnowed out. Machines forcibly dressed them in the heavy rubberised garments common to all mono-tasked servitors. These were saggy on them, all one size, until another process force-shrank them to fit their bodies where metal cuffs, sockets and collars bit into vulnerable flesh. The last few prayers gave way to screams at that point, and even the most stoic shouted in pain. They were ushered over a floor buzzing with power that made them shriek with every footstep.

[storm jungle]

^

[crystal forum]

she deserved it

[storm jungle]

take a read

probably some of the most morbid shit ive ever read

[crystal forum]

wait are we talking about the darktide traitor

[storm jungle]

yep we are

[crystal forum]

bitch deserved it

[arctic talon]

‘What’s that for?’ I asked.

Djelling answered only reluctantly. ‘Follicular inhibitor. To stop their hair growing,’ he said.

‘How?’ I asked. Djelling was done answering. ‘Come, come, this way.’ He waved me over to a door.

I didn’t come this way. I watched numbly. The shivering lines of terrified men and women reached a final series of gates, where a high-energy augur beam of such potency it made my dataslate buzz passed over them. Dazed, they were manhandled into different queues, and then hustled from the room to their fates.

Djelling gripped my elbow with surprising strength and pushed me out of the hall. ‘This way. Please,’ he said.

Thankfully, I was spared a view of the surgeries. I doubted the Adeptus Mechanicus provided anaesthetic, for the same reasons they would not dull the pain of a nail under the hammer.

[storm jungle]

God

the worst part is they still sometimes sweat

and smell like shit

💀

[crystal forum]

i hope her organics rot

[opaque coyote]

Welp that is horrifying

[crystal forum]

the fact that she still has her football cheek thing

[arctic talon]

the thing is most servitors are like

not terrible people

[storm jungle]

Yeah this too.

[arctic talon]

Sometimes you commit theft

you get unlucky

sentenced to servitorization

[storm jungle]

being a "criminal" in the Imperium can range from killing someone to stealing food for your starving family

[opaque coyote]

Luckily a good chunk of Servitors are fully lobotomized.

But sometimes they fuck up and uhhhh

[arctic talon]

the fucked up ones are

[opaque coyote]

Accidentally or """accidentally"""

[sour hornet]

WHAT THE FUCK

[opaque coyote]

Are left aware

[storm jungle]

HIT EM WITH THE TWINK

[arctic talon]

thats a woman

[storm jungle]

Same thing

[arctic talon]

[sour hornet]

[tough haven]

I like the mechanicus in concept but they are genuinely horrifying

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

being left aware is a defect

to be fair

[opaque coyote]

Adorable little scamp

She just lobotomized two people

[tough haven]

servitors are the worst part

[arctic talon]

if you want to know what the uh

[opaque coyote]

She's behind her quota

[arctic talon]

punishment is

uh

you get turned into a servitor

if you fuck up servitorization

[storm jungle]

Missed your shift? Servitorization

[sour hornet]

Uhh

for no reason at all

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it's probably the equivalent of like

Fucking up spelling your name

[storm jungle]

yeah i wasnt making a joke

[sour hornet]

I don't wanna be born on a forge world anymore

[arctic talon]

Nah

[storm jungle]

if your admech boss is particularly evil they will do this

[arctic talon]

its fine

[storm jungle]

lol

[sour hornet]

[arctic talon]

(it really isn't)

Forgeworlds are like

genuinely so incredibly dystopian

[storm jungle]

Yeah its literally factorial desolution

[arctic talon]

but hey

maybe you'll be lucky

[storm jungle]

almost 80% of the population is slave labor

[arctic talon]

and get to become a priest

[opaque coyote]

If you wanna know something wholesome

A Magos actually accidentally fucked up a clone. Creating a female version of himself

[storm jungle]

and then get politically assassinated

[opaque coyote]

So instead of shredding her or whatever

[arctic talon]

or maybe some bored metasurgeon sees you

and decides to "experiment" on you

[opaque coyote]

He actually raised her as a daighter

[arctic talon]

because haha you're just a menial

[sour hornet]

what do you mean a clone?

[storm jungle]

a vat-clone

[sour hornet]

they clone people???

[arctic talon]

the mechanicus grow their children in vats

[storm jungle]

Yep

[arctic talon]

generally

put in your DNA + your Spouses DNA

make a baby

or you can just buy one

from a bulk grown batch

[crystal forum]

i imagine the average imperial would actually be revolted by this process in the same way that the average urbanite is disgusted by industrial meat production

[arctic talon]

Cawl was adopted from a bulkbatch of vatgrown

for example

[sour hornet]

The cog people are legit insane

[arctic talon]

well "adopted"

[opaque coyote]

That's generally how Tech Priests have children.

Unless if they want to do it the good old

Natural way

[arctic talon]

Hadron is like

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah also super late ping but

[arctic talon]

one of the more normal ones

tbh

[crystal forum]

can i make a baby

[arctic talon]

idk

[opaque coyote]

She's actually pretty chill tbh

[arctic talon]

prolly

[crystal forum]

i wish to assemble one

[opaque coyote]

Especially once you get to like level 30

[arctic talon]

she's only threatened to kill us normally

so I give it a 10/10

[opaque coyote]

She basically treats you like a person once you've actually proven yourself

[sour hornet]

Hadron is super chill

[crystal forum]

hadron has been around enough normal people

[arctic talon]

I do not want to find out if Hadron murdered her way up the social ladder or not

because she might have

[opaque coyote]

She's a tech priest

She did

100%

[arctic talon]

Hey its not always murder

sometimes its sabotage!

[opaque coyote]

Tbf that goes for the Imperium in general

[crystal forum]

rapid disassembly of your boss

[opaque coyote]

Filled with sabotage, murder, etc. to get one step higher

And one step away from eating Emperor's Mercy Bars

[arctic talon]

Cawl shooting his adoptive Mother/master/teacher

still goes hard tbh

[sour hornet]

You guys will tell me a character is pretty cool and then add "oh yeah he instigated the Obliteration of Sarii XIV, but other than that he's cool"

I have trust issues

[arctic talon]

we won't talk about what he did with the uh

Fetus clones

or her brain

[sour hornet]

the what

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah Cawl's teacher was cloning back up brains + bodies of herself

and she stored them in like

a big set of tanks

cawl ended up destroying them all and using their brains to uh

"drink" her memories

so to speak

[sour hornet]

[arctic talon]

he became her to an extent

Cawl is fucking creepy

[sour hornet]

what the fuck is cawl

[arctic talon]

Cawl is a tech priest

he's pretty nice

[sour hornet]

is he like 2 people in one mind or something

[arctic talon]

by tech priests standards

he's like

over 100 minds in one body

at this point

[opaque coyote]

I'm just gonna show you this image

[arctic talon]

This is talking about Talos

I'm like 99% sure its about one of the nightlords from the trilogy

LOL

[sour hornet]

getting "called for the servitorization of a whole hive city" vibes from this one

[opaque coyote]

People talk about Konrad like

"oh he's such a wholesome lil bean"

[arctic talon]

nah, he just uh has revived his friend over 89 times against his will

[opaque coyote]

clue him skinning a woman alive for attempting to kill herself

[arctic talon]

and his friend remembers every single one of the deaths

[sour hornet]

the single realest image I have seen yet lmfao

[storm jungle]

also before i forget I just wanted to mention this now as a fandom veteran but never share the fact that you like Eldar in any capacity with Imperial fans unless its like a friend of yours that isnt a braindead moron. You will just get met with "huehue murderfucking knife-ears" 24/7.

People circlejerk disliking xenos factions like crazy then wonder why faction fanbases are so antagonistic towards each other.

[arctic talon]

but I like the Imperium and Like eldar

[storm jungle]

the fandom thinks they are like the greatest people on earth and above things like star wars then act like literal nazis a split second later

[storm jungle]

You know what i mean lmao

[arctic talon]

LOL

[opaque coyote]

I like the Tau the most purely because of the designs

[storm jungle]

im talking about those people

[arctic talon]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

Like I like the Aeldari as well

But I love the blocky designs of the mechas

[arctic talon]

also tbh Cawl is still like

objectively a terrible person

he's got tons of servitors

and slaves

[arctic talon]

he's just kind of chill

[storm jungle]

YEP

[arctic talon]

like compared to other priests of his position

[tough haven]

But that’s an actual interesting arc where he struggles to come to terms with losing the only person who he’s been close to and he knew before amalgamating

[storm jungle]

basically enjoy what you like and dont let anyone stop you

[opaque coyote]

Cawl is interesting.

He actually shows regret and a varied amount of human emotion throughout his thoughts

Doesn't mean he still isn't horrible

[arctic talon]

Cawl moving around is horrifying

[opaque coyote]

But he's better than most tech priests just by the virtue of actually feeling bad about it

[arctic talon]

its like a fucking centipede

[tough haven]

I like human like tech priests

In their emotions I mean

[sour hornet]

already have had people calling me elf based slurs literally immediately, it is too late

[storm jungle]

Most imperial stans (not the normal fans) make up a great part of this fanbase and got no joke aside from spamming xenophobia memes like its 2012. The sad truth is you wont really find a more mediative 40k group like this channel in most places, you can go to gen-chat and repeat your xeno-favoring statement and get met with boring meme replies lol

[opaque coyote]

I think the funniest part about his gigantic body is like.

They actually made a cutscene for when Cawl encounters Trazyn while he's trying to figure out how the Necron Pillars work

[paper haven]

oh, are we talking about bad people in 40k?

[sour hornet]

I literally want to spray him with raid

[storm jungle]

we ar ecurrently at Cawl

[arctic talon]

there's a good 40k server tbf

[opaque coyote]

And it's hilarious seeing Trazyn actually being more human

[arctic talon]

same with the other warhammer server

[opaque coyote]

Than the ""human"" tech priest

[storm jungle]

also teaching Emmesh awful stuff

[arctic talon]

the mods just kill people

who are being assholes

over other peopels factions

which is a 10/10

[storm jungle]

Lmao

nice

[opaque coyote]

Like Cawl literally says

[arctic talon]

its also where comes from

[opaque coyote]

"BUT YOU ARE AN ABOMINATION"

while turning around

[arctic talon]

tbh

[opaque coyote]

And seeing him as a gigantic being

[arctic talon]

Cawl is such a fucking hypocrite lol

[opaque coyote]

With loads out wires, mechandendrites

Etc.

[paper haven]

Yeah, Cawl's pretty bad.

[sour hornet]

I thought most 40k environments were going to be as chill as this one, I have come to realize my mistake quickly. You do thankless work 🤝

[arctic talon]

https://youtu.be/kWEH4sjqlmY?si=rGt7vM5crJ7C3gWl&t=133

[opaque coyote]

He is genuinely interesting due to the fact that he

Actually feels bad about being bad

[arctic talon]

if you want a chill 40k server I can dm you a link

if not thats also fine

this chat is great though

[paper haven]

I've seen the other places 40k fans congregate. I like this place better.

[sour hornet]

do it

[storm jungle]

Yeah the fandom is what id describe as extremely "tribal" when it comes to most subjects, we had a new animation from GW drop and people were surprised an Ultramarine was being a literal nazi in it as they assumed most people from their chapters are "heroes" etc.

[warped drum]

Hey guy

[opaque coyote]

Like he actually regrets experimenting on the first batch of Primaris and basically torturing them

So he specifically pulls an annoying personality on them so that they don't fear him.

[paper haven]

Which is unusual for the setting, but feeling bad about being bad doesn't make a person less bad.

[storm jungle]

[paper haven]

If that makes sense

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, I'm not saying he's a good person

Far from it actually

But it is

Interesting

Cawl has multiple personalities after all

So is it him?

[storm jungle]

So and so

[opaque coyote]

Or is it one of his personalities?

[storm jungle]

he has a core personality

the others just sometimes interfere

[paper haven]

The multiple personality thing is so Fight CLub

[arctic talon]

the core Cawl personality is in charge

[opaque coyote]

You are gonna kill me for this.

I like how the TTS voiced Cawl

Basically they had it so that he constantly cuts himself off with multiple voices and personalities

Similar to how the Master talks in Fo1

Canonically, Cawl just switches between personalities

[arctic talon]

I do think the funniest thing is

[opaque coyote]

But having them butt and cut in CONSTANTLY is a really fun idea

[arctic talon]

everytime its pride month

[storm jungle]

to be fair TTS did do it pretty accurately

[arctic talon]

the 40k discord gets funny

[paper haven]

40k Fight club where Robute Guiliman and Cawl turn out to be the same person

[arctic talon]

and by funny

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

I mean public executions happen

[storm jungle]

I respect the mods for making the server banner in a rainbow pattern

[opaque coyote]

dm me

[arctic talon]

its so fucking funny watching people go mask off

[opaque coyote]

mf

d m

[arctic talon]

and then getting their brains blown out

[storm jungle]

"WOKES RUINED MY SETTING"

[opaque coyote]

What if Warhammer was called

Freakyhammer

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

and insteado f fighting the enemies of the imperium

they all had say ge-

[storm jungle]

gay sex?

[opaque coyote]

TAIL TIME

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I know it's weird but I do wish there was a bit more

Human on human racism

Like not just mutants

But tbf I get why there's less of it

[rose thorn]

i cant ever understand this complaint lmao

[opaque coyote]

After all, why hate someone for having a different skin color

[arctic talon]

I'm getting the lynching one

[tough haven]

I like the archmagos from forges of mars

[arctic talon]

the lynching excerpt

brb

[opaque coyote]

When you can hate Billy the Mutant who has 4 arms and 8 ears

[opaque coyote]

Oh boi!

[tough haven]

When there’s giant bugs that eat planets to kill

[tough haven]

He’s a chad

[opaque coyote]

Can't wait for more proof of why the Imperium is a shi-

WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE

[sour hornet]

Are voidborns human?

[rose thorn]

YES

[opaque coyote]

yeah

[sour hornet]

I understand they look wonky

[arctic talon]

Zidarov remembered attending a case when he’d still been a sanctioner – the armed wing of the enforcer corps – out at one of the mercantile port hubs. A big cargo carrier had ended up berthed in Alecto’s voidspace, and its crew had come down planetside for a little rest and relaxation before the next stage. That had been a mistake – their skin was a touch too grey-tinged, their mouths a little too wide. Word got out, and a mob gathered. By the time Zidarov’s squad was activated, it was too late – the ringleaders had stormed the compound and dragged the crew out onto the streets. Thirty men and woman, burned alive, screaming their innocence as the promethium-fuelled flames turned them to fatty, blackened meat-strips.

No one faced retribution for that. There were too many in the crowds, thousands by the end.

[sour hornet]

it makes me suspicious when I read about them

[rose thorn]

Ugly people are still people

[tough haven]

He even grants rights to the workers (he’s forced to and will probably remove the rights once he’s back in imperium space)

[rose thorn]

its jsut because they were born in space

[sour hornet]

you sure?

[tough haven]

Yep

[sour hornet]

"near translucent skin"

[tough haven]

It’s established lore

[sour hornet]

[arctic talon]

the helmsman in Rogue Trader is voidborn

[rose thorn]

thats waht no sunlight does to a mf

[tough haven]

They are hated though

[arctic talon]

he's pale as hell

but like voidborn

[sour hornet]

okay so they're not freaks

[opaque coyote]

Mainly because the Imperium is a tolerant and friendly space

[tough haven]

Oh they are

[arctic talon]

the vox master is a lesbian also voidborn

[opaque coyote]

I mean considering Ratlings, Ogyrns, etc. exist

They're fine

[rose thorn]

some are ass ugly but thats because uh,

[tough haven]

Just more tolerated

[rose thorn]

space ships are hell

[sour hornet]

okay so they are freaks

[storm jungle]

LOL

[arctic talon]

she's just augmented for her job smh

[rose thorn]

[opaque coyote]

Still bang tbh

[storm jungle]

i mean depends

[arctic talon]

She looks fine beyond the vox implant jammed into her mouth

[storm jungle]

does that vox mouth have a hol-

[arctic talon]

Prolly not

[opaque coyote]

I mean the other holes are still intact

[rose thorn]

honestly alot of nobles are much much much uglier and freakier then any void born

[sour hornet]

don't ships have port calls where they can rotate out?

[arctic talon]

No

[rose thorn]

no

[arctic talon]

the people on board practically

are slaves

[opaque coyote]

Most Nobles actually look normal.

[rose thorn]

imperium ships run on slavery

[arctic talon]

or in many cases are slaves

they'll live and die on the ship

[rose thorn]

❌

[arctic talon]

generations will be servicing the same cannon

[sour hornet]

oh

ohhhh

[tough haven]

Clan of voidborn working one macrocannon never seeing outside of it

[arctic talon]

some voidborn also really do not like being on planets

[opaque coyote]

Honestly thought that to be slightly stupid. But then again, it's 40k

[arctic talon]

because the natural gravity is like

not great

compared to the artifical ship one

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it definitely feels weird because like imagine living on like

a ship with no sunlight

metal halls

[rose thorn]

shout out to navigators

[opaque coyote]

etc.

[rose thorn]

i love love lveo navigators

[opaque coyote]

and then you suddenly go on grass

[arctic talon]

its literally an alien environment

[opaque coyote]

and see things like sunlight

you'd freak out

[sour hornet]

that one navigator girl has my heart

[arctic talon]

tbf some voidborn see sunlight

depends on their job

[sour hornet]

even w/ the third eye

[arctic talon]

Navigators are great

[sour hornet]

I'll just not look at it

[rose thorn]

40k's space ship lore

[opaque coyote]

Honestly she's adorable until she suddenly starts casually saying

[rose thorn]

is osme of the best imperium lore

and i am angry they ended nauticus

[opaque coyote]

"Wait why didn't you cut off the tongue of that servant?"

[tough haven]

She can literally control your emotions

[opaque coyote]

Didn't you hear what he said

[sour hornet]

^

better honestly

[opaque coyote]

but seriously tho a lot of people in 40k just have minor mutations

they usually don't get killed for it cause having 6 toes instead of 5

doesn't mean that you can't work in the mines!

[arctic talon]

average necromunda underhive ganger

[sour hornet]

God forbid a girl have a posh upbringing. 🙄

[sour hornet]

uhh question

[opaque coyote]

Tbf she actually is a good perosn (for the setting at least)

[sour hornet]

how do chaos ships navigate?

[opaque coyote]

Like she's one of the few people who treats poor people like

people

and not

[rose thorn]

slavery, demons,

[arctic talon]

their own navigators, sorcerers, friendly daemons

[tough haven]

I don’t romance her cause it’s too manipulative and she’s too vulnerable

[rose thorn]

navigators

[opaque coyote]

slaves

[tough haven]

I just mentor her

[rose thorn]

you would be shock how many chaos things are just the imperium with spike

s

[arctic talon]

oh also sometimes daemon princes or the ship itself

is a fucking daemon

[tough haven]

My rogue trader is accidentally asexual and aromantic cause I forgot to do a romance lol

[sour hornet]

they trust daemons with their 10k year old ships?

[opaque coyote]

She also actually gives her servants a Vox so that they can talk again. Once she realizes that taking the tongues of those who talks are wrong.

[arctic talon]

uh

depends

Some daemons are trustworthy

[opaque coyote]

They have to.

[arctic talon]

and valued crewmembers

[sour hornet]

?

[thick cedar]

Wouldnt nurgle be the natural enemy of the tyranids?

[tough haven]

Would be cool to see

[sour hornet]

uhh isn't the thing that they arent?

[opaque coyote]

Tbh there are some Daemons who are actually friendly. Like Raum actually is.

[arctic talon]

Daemons despite being literal maniefsted evil and bad vibes can in fact be trustworthy

[rose thorn]

there is a nurgle genestealer cult

[arctic talon]

depends on the daemon again

also sometimes the daemon is the ship

so like

[rose thorn]

also, tyranids are immune to chaos directly

[arctic talon]

kind of have to trust Big Jimmy the Daemon

[tough haven]

Give me the lore of it

[rose thorn]

its old and ass

[tough haven]

Are they?

[arctic talon]

to properly navigate you through the warp

and usually daemons don't like sharing

if they have a deal

[opaque coyote]

Give big jimmy a good 10,000 sacrifices for his help on steering the ship!

[tough haven]

Awww, you got my hopes up

[arctic talon]

I.E you make a deal with a Exalted Daemonette, you tell them that she gets to kill a few hundred menials and have their souls. She does not want to share with other daemons and therefore will most likely keep to said deal

[rose thorn]

yea, they cant be corrutped but like obviously murdeirng nids or letting thier corpses rot feed the gods

[sour hornet]

Do chaos guys steal ships in the modern day? That may be straight up they're doing. Just popping around to the local daemon world to pimp their battlecruiser.

[rose thorn]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cult_Tenebrous

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think only Raum is a Daemon that actually wanted to share with Argel Tal

[arctic talon]

yep!

[rose thorn]

yes, how else do they re supply

[arctic talon]

well

the dark mechanicum does build stuff

sometimes

[opaque coyote]

Occasionally, the possessed actually have an equal relationship

Which is ironic considering

[arctic talon]

Oh also another example of a Ship that itself is a fucking ascended daemon prince is uh

[rose thorn]

AAAAAAAA i lvoe space pirates in 40k

[arctic talon]

The Conqueror

[opaque coyote]

Possession is not usually an equal relationship

[rose thorn]

and cold traders

[arctic talon]

as in Angrons former flagship

[rose thorn]

and the mafia

[arctic talon]

Lotara has uh

ascended

lets say

[opaque coyote]

fused with it

[arctic talon]

ignore the fact she's a pile of meat

[rose thorn]

yeah :)

[tough haven]

Don’t like supernatural diseases still affect them?

[queen laurel]

they are most of the time just creatures following orders from a higher entity barely any sentience on their part

[arctic talon]

but the Ship is a daemon now

and she is the daemon prince

[queen laurel]

yes

[sour hornet]

Well, apparently they have full on ships that are straight up daemons, so you tell me 💀

[rose thorn]

sorta

[arctic talon]

so like

[queen laurel]

But they're basically creatures that just like function as like animals and stuff

[arctic talon]

there's a reason why she hasn't been "found" essentially and the ship is so reliable

[queen laurel]

They don't need the whispers of power being corrupted stuff like that

[opaque coyote]

Some say that you can hear her screaming profanties at the World Eater's enemies inside their heads.

[rose thorn]

but liek, the disease wont spread in the next generation

[arctic talon]

she literally can reshape the interior of the ship as she pleases

she's the ship itself

[rose thorn]

they get the disease, then they will just become immune

[opaque coyote]

poor Lotara man.

[sour hornet]

Well I'm dumb as a box of hammers so that evens the power dynamic.

[arctic talon]

there's a reason why there's 2 seperate bridges now

and one is like

[opaque coyote]

Or hurray?

[arctic talon]

deep inside the depths of the conqureror

[opaque coyote]

Idk depends on your point of view

[arctic talon]

thats where her "body" is

and the actual bridge

the false bridge is where it used to be

[opaque coyote]

Do the World Eaters at least say hi to her

[arctic talon]

no

[queen laurel]

Yep and the only diseases that they cannot really adapt to is the one from nurgle

[opaque coyote]

Damn

[arctic talon]

most don't even know she exists

[opaque coyote]

That's kinda sad tbh

[arctic talon]

there's like a few who found out

and they got freaked out

[rose thorn]

except when they do but thats more warp shinnaigans

[arctic talon]

that oh shit we aren't piloting this thing

[sour hornet]

Dark mechanicum? Are they an actual organization? Or loose rabble. I'm assuming they're heretic admech guys.

[arctic talon]

they're as organized as the actual mechanicus, which is to say not really at all

[opaque coyote]

I'm just imagining Daemon Prince Angron being like

[queen laurel]

yeah they still have that shadow of the warp

[arctic talon]

they're all the members of the Mechanicum who went traitor

during the Heresy

and also their sucessors

being a Traitor or fallen to chaos member of the mechanicus does not make you Dark Mechanicum

[opaque coyote]

"Yeah I just here to feed Lotara again. Say hi Lotara."

[arctic talon]

tbf Angron does like

[opaque coyote]

metallic screeching

[arctic talon]

visit the actual helm

much to the horror of the World eaters

who found it

because its fucking Angron

[rose thorn]

i think the way its explained on tabletop is that all the infected ones just murder each other and get thrown in the yummer pools after the fight

[opaque coyote]

lemme guess they got murdered

[arctic talon]

no

[sour hornet]

So they're traitor hipsters?

[opaque coyote]

oh

[arctic talon]

They fucking ran for it

[arctic talon]

not really

[sour hornet]

Rebelling before it was cool

[opaque coyote]

smart thing to do

[queen laurel]

It's the fact that I don't really see them adapting to magical diseases

[arctic talon]

they're the original traitors

and they're proud of it

[queen laurel]

Unless they have shadow of the warp interfering with the disease

[arctic talon]

they call themselves the "True Mechanicum"

[sour hornet]

Oh

[arctic talon]

the shadow of the warp wouldn't fuck with warp based diseases

[opaque coyote]

Basically the entire reason why they split is that the 30k Mechanicum had a schism

Basically

[arctic talon]

there's no psyker channeling it

[queen laurel]

yeah so I guess nurgle is one of the few that can truly infect them

[opaque coyote]

"Is the Emperor the Omnissiah, or simply an Avatar of the Omnissiah"

And that's

[arctic talon]

wel

it wasn't just that tbf

[rose thorn]

they would just destroy the diease somehow

[opaque coyote]

the main reason why they split

[arctic talon]

it was also a "the treaty was bullshit"

[rose thorn]

they have microscopic nids for a reason

[opaque coyote]

That also

[sour hornet]

What's the answer?

[arctic talon]

We don't know

[sour hornet]

lmao

[opaque coyote]

Like many religious things. We don't know.

[arctic talon]

And we never will

prolly

modern mechanicus religous doctrine

holds a holy trinity

[queen laurel]

they can just make up a lore reason for it to be fair yeah but magical bioweapons ain't that easy to beat i will admit

[opaque coyote]

The Dark Mechanicum believe the Emperor is just a shrieking corpse

[arctic talon]

The Machine God, The Motive Force, The Omnissiah

[opaque coyote]

Which isn't wrong but also isn't right either

[arctic talon]

The Dark mechanicum also were worshipping the fucking Dark King

tbf

Kelbor Hal especially

[opaque coyote]

yeah isn't that like the penultimate chaos god?

[arctic talon]

So in a round about way some were worshipping the Emperor

no

it was a potential god The Emperor could ascend to become

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah

Also uhh

There possibly exists deeper areas of the warp

Unexplored, untouched, and absolutely unknowable and horrific

To the point where even the Chaos Gods don't want to go down there

...

Not terrifying at all...

The Warp is like the ocean.

In that even with all this shit

The lore has barely scratched the surface on what it can hold

...so basically it's just potential homebrew material

[arctic talon]

Deep Warp is for whenever an Author wants to write something or homebrew

heh