40k-lore-chat

[paper haven]

What are they using now? A bullpup?

[crystal forum]

yes the tavor

which mb is israeli not american

and the m4 too apparently

mostly old stock from the US

[paper haven]

It really is hard to beat the M-16 when it comes to service rifles.

[crystal forum]

i see it more as an economic thing since that's what it usually boils down to

america gives old stuff to israel for very cheap

plus developing your own proprietary service rifle costs a lot of money

which is why France let go of the famas

[paper haven]

That was mostly just a tangent thought. I'm a big fan of the Galil, in truth but it's hard when you're the only one using it.

[crystal forum]

tbh the whole bullpup craze is stupid for a lot of reasons and there's barely any reasons for the average grunt to need a close quarters weapon

[paper haven]

But it looks so cool! So futuristic!

[crystal forum]

im glad the US stuck to its guns (ha) and went with a conventional design for the XM7

and they didn't go with colt which is mega based

[paper haven]

A shame it probably won't work out.

[crystal forum]

fun fact it's actually kinda fucked up that the US army switched from the M16 to the M4 without conducting any trials

they're supposed to test multiple companies before doing a change like that

but they just quietly went with colt which stinks of corruption

[crystal forum]

it's slowly going through the process of replacing hundreds of thousands of M4's. it's just bureaucracy taking its time

it's very difficult to replace the service rifle of the biggest army in the world

[paper haven]

Don't I know it.

[fallen plaza]

What

That thing is a damned kidney stone

[crystal forum]

it's called the nagmachon if you want to look it up

• 10 💀

dude this is literally a modern A7V

[plush mason]

thats nearly ww1 levels of crew size lol

[crystal forum]

well it's an IFV

[plush mason]

oh ok

[crystal forum]

so the crew is most likely also passengers

[plush mason]

so not all of that is crew

[crystal forum]

but since there's no gunner then they also have to man the guns

which means they're crew???

what the fuck is this thing

[plush mason]

one of the many many abominations littering the IFV/APC evolutionary tree it seems

[crystal forum]

sourced from reddit post: it was considered an IFV at the time purely because you could shoot out of it

today it would just be considered an APC

IDF combat vehicle design be like: how can we make this 40 year old chassis withstand IED's and RPG-7's while also making it an IFV

today i learned of another vehicle

the dawsar

introduced in 2014 by jordan

looks cool right

it's a centurion

centurions were adopted in 1946

also it's a fucking land raider

ITS A GOD DAMN LAND RAIDER

[shell mason]

fuck it

I'm playing tomorrow

[crystal forum]

please

ffs somebody tell me im not insane here

that thing is literally a land raider

[arctic talon]

Yes

[plush mason]

the centurian was one of the main tanks of the british army in ww2

so the land raider could easily be inspired by it

[crystal forum]

thanks

[crystal forum]

it was originally adopted in 1945 like right after WW2

but yes it was one of the most prominent tanks of the time

british tanks all look the same so i get the confusion

[fallen plaza]

I wouldn't go that far

You can at least tell them apart by a glance

@crystal forum guess the nationality of this tank

[plush mason]

oh right i was thinking of the crusader

which iirc is what the centurian was based on

[crystal forum]

french

or british

[fallen plaza]

American

[crystal forum]

oh wait

huh

i was about to say that looks like a ZSU behind it

but that's a sergeant york isnt it

[crystal forum]

i'm willing to bet this is an interwar tank that was partially developped by the french

and i dont even know what it is

[fallen plaza]

It is a British tank originally so yes

[crystal forum]

fuck

should have guessed british

was my second guess tbh

america wasn't making shit by that point

in fact my favorite tank, the t-26 is just a licensed copy of a british tank

[plush mason]

well, the british where the ones to invent the tank so they tend to be the ones that made the earliest ones

[crystal forum]

don't knock the french too much, they were very quick to get on the tank train

it's germany that didn't think it was worth the investment until late in the war

and of course the US being the little stepchild still and trying to catch up

then the interwar happened and the US had its golden years and you know the rest

now WW2 is declared and france still hasn't equipped most of its front line tanks with fucking radios

[scenic bolt]

then you had mussolini who dedicated natl production nearly solely to a cheap mg tank purely so he could brag that italy had more tanks than any other nation which while technically true had major asterisks

[crystal forum]

dictators be dictating

https://youtu.be/MwY8cxPJKaM?si=JGXkjZbxq61earCt

soul drinkers in thumbnail

holy shit i did not know soul drinkers were 20+ year old lore

no wonder the books felt so off

[median star]

I think their whole chapter died and got brought back didnt it

[dusk patrol]

Basically

[fallen plaza]

Somehow the souldrinkers returned

[opaque coyote]

Do you ever think the weapons that have bad rolls and blessings are just

Their machine spirits acting up

[loud badge]

Spirit ey?

[late osprey]

in universe belief? absolutely

meta-wise we aren't entirely sure if machine spirits actually exist at all

[storm jungle]

Well they do

its more that the answer to what they are is like 3 things

its left in the air for the writers to get more freedom from it

[shadow plover]

Rynn's Might the happy little Land Raider is the best example of a tangible machine spirit activity

[plush shuttle]

Bear in mind machine spirit is also just their word for like software and the code required for shit

[raven stone]

And even in universe all 3 also exist simultaneously.

• Something people invoke on broken machinery (even basic ones like toasters) because some worlds ARE that backwards.
• Extremely sophisticated semi-AI with possible biological component inside warmachines (as mentioned above, Rynn's Might)
• An actual xenos god entity that can take over machines.

[queen laurel]

is that the one where its crew died and it went berserk or something?

[shadow plover]

in short, yes

[queen laurel]

ah yeah neat little fellow that was

[plush shuttle]

So like machine spirits on the most literal sense do exist and like a machine spirit acting up or being angry could literally just be the piece of tech glitching

[raven stone]

Or maltreated hardware, but yes

[plush shuttle]

My toasters machine spirit was angry at me today and didn't work 😭

[raven stone]

Oof

And lore wise, even if your toaster has 0 AI components or xenos gods, it is still correct to invoke

[plush shuttle]

I'm gonna get a new toaster with a nicer machine spirit

[raven stone]

Since the Ad Mech also uses the term to teach IoM citizens on how to maintain any machinery

If you go by Ad Mech standards, even things like Autoguns "have" Machine Spirit

[plush shuttle]

Guns jammed?

Angy machine spirit

[shadow plover]

Plasma weapon overheats and kills the wielder? Machine Spirit

[plush shuttle]

My prosthetic penis overheats and burns me to death?

Machine spirit

[shadow plover]

[plush shuttle]

It's a real problem that many people have

[shadow plover]

certainly

[storm jungle]

Basically this yeah

we will never probably have a tangible answer since authors dont pay attention to each other

so its a mix of All of the Above

Machine spirits essentially work like DND dice rolls

[echo pulsar]

Tired of self exploding with Psyker? Try vet with Plasma!

[shadow plover]

[nocturne crest]

Wasn't that the TOG?

Also new thought, but would it be heresy to remove a turrent from a Leman Russ to turn it into an improvised APC?

[shadow plover]

turretless Leman Russes have been available before, but mostly as tank destroyers

can't recall if there has been any personnel carriers

modifying one to become one would probably be looked pretty sourly by the adepts of the machine cult but can't say I've heard of such thing being done

[queen laurel]

Probably not especially if the world doesn't have resources and just has a few lying around that they need for transportation

can happen but as Jerko said the mechanicus will probably look not like it

[nocturne crest]

The Destroyer does look great.

[rocky gale]

Dunno about the Leman, but all of the Sororitas tanks are modified versions of the Rhino

[storm jungle]

hate the Castrater tank so much!!!!

I MEAN

Castigator whoops

[rocky gale]

[shadow plover]

Why

[rocky gale]

Castigator cool tho

[nocturne crest]

Tbh, the Castigator looks like it should be an option for the guard.

[rocky gale]

No

[nocturne crest]

No?

I think it would look good in Green or Tan.

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/soprano-get-the-fuck-outta-here-get-out-gif-14394588

[shadow plover]

I do wish guard had a tank with a larger tower

Aka turret

[rocky gale]

Guard have enough vehicles, leave ours alone

[storm jungle]

absolutely love metal slug vehicles

they are so imperial guard coded

[shadow plover]

[nocturne crest]

For some reason, this reminds of the CDL tanks.

[shadow plover]

Y'all seen that recent Baneblade kitbash that gave it a huge rotating turret

Abrams esque

[queen laurel]

yep those are pretty sick

[storm jungle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/metalslug/images/3/3b/Dragon_nosuke.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140801190752

METAL SLUG IS PEAK

[shadow plover]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7TUytCN0_6/?igsh=MWtlbnkwOTdiNm5vMA==

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[rocky gale]

With your damn Chimera, Taurox, Hellhound, Leman Russ, Sentinel, Hydra, Wyvern, Rogal Dorn, Basilisk, Deathstrike, Valkyrie and don't get me started on all the Baneblade varients, the Shadowsword, Hellhammer, Stormsword, Stormlord, Doomhammer, Banesword and Banehammer.

[shadow plover]

More videos in his profile

[rocky gale]

We got like 4 vehicles and they're all Rhino variants, let us keep them

[queen laurel]

damn

that is nice

[nocturne crest]

No, you get a cart that is pulled along by repentia or servitors.

[rocky gale]

I pray everyday for Biker Repentia

[shadow plover]

It's very impressive

[rocky gale]

The most based release GW could do is make a "Saints and Sinners" box with Sororitas on horseback and Repentia on Bikes

[queen laurel]

that it is, a good kitbash is always fun

[nocturne crest]

Do the Grey Knights have bikes?

[rocky gale]

Don't think so

Grey Knights don't have a lot

They are desperately in need of an update

[nocturne crest]

Maybe they're going to become a part of imperial agents.

[scenic bolt]

imperial agents dex has some GK stuff in it but not a focus, the full GK dex is out next year

[shadow plover]

I've driven one of those

but the turret is a lot more Abrams than Leopard imo

[crystal forum]

is everybody in this channel a tank crewman i swear

[rocky gale]

Deathwatch got squatted and added to Imperial Agents, but GK will continue as their own thing

[shadow plover]

Think there were only I and one another

[crystal forum]

that's two more than usual

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-und-panzers-girl-und-panzers-panzers-ammo-strong-gif-18968119

[paper haven]

tanks for the memories

[rocky gale]

Unedited footage of this channel in action

[ruby turtle]

https://youtu.be/o8EX-0tI3QA?si=fz3Mj-hsdlD7REGM

[paper haven]

I hate that it looks cool

[shadow plover]

ooh are the episodes self contained stories? haven't watched the first one yet

[rose thorn]

NOVA TODAY

[rocky gale]

Yea I think they said it was an anthology of different "Tithes"

[rose thorn]

HYPE HYPE HYPE

[rocky gale]

Yoooo NOVA

[shadow plover]

I see I see

[rose thorn]

AOS REVEALSSS

[shadow plover]

Might have to check the first episode today

[rose thorn]

I bet we are getting a new celestant prime

[crystal forum]

of you post girl panzer shit again i will assassinate you politically

[queen laurel]

oh yeah that

now that is proper news

[rose thorn]

Stormcast reveals are today, but besides that maybe soulblight?

Based off that skeleton weapon form the rumor engine

[shadow plover]

rumour engine stuff tends to take a good while to come out usually

[rocky gale]

Nice arguement, unfortunately

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girls-und-panzer-tank-crusader-jump-gif-15974524

[green loom]

Am I insane or am I hearing shadowheart

[crystal forum]

little anime girls saying kawaii while i punt them off a cliff

[storm jungle]

okay now THAT looks interesting

the first one was very boring

[rocky gale]

Unfortunately the Nova reveals are at 2am

[green loom]

Ohhhh SoS thrall

or something

[storm jungle]

yeah that has to be a thrall

he has a fucking slave-rod

lmao

[crystal forum]

no cake

shame

[rocky gale]

Thralls don't get cake

[green loom]

Does anyone else hear Shadowheart's VA

[ruby turtle]

Yea second one looks more interesting

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

I would not be surprised

Minthara's VA literally has voiced like uh

[green loom]

The 9th ed cinematic

[storm jungle]

a hundred 40k audiobooks

or the trailer ye lol

she goes pretty far back

[shadow plover]

Shart is getting around

[green loom]

Raphael's VA did the Night Lords omnibus right

[shadow plover]

Was he voiced by Andrew Wincott?

didn't recognize him then

[green loom]

Yes actually

[storm jungle]

Yep that is him!

he just does a way more heavy slavic accent

i recognized him from how sexy his voice comes off

[shadow plover]

lol he's in Darktide too

[crystal forum]

dilara's got a type

[shadow plover]

as drumroll Chaos Ogryn and Groaner

[rose thorn]

Really???

[shadow plover]

That's what imdb says

[storm jungle]

Lmao bruh

[crisp heath]

CANT STOP MEEE

[storm jungle]

its deffo not easy to do monster voices but im surprised they used him for THAT

[rose thorn]

Felt like he could do a sniper pretty well

[shadow plover]

weird that it's credited as Chaos Ogryn and not Plague Ogryn. Could it be Bulwark or Reaper instead then?

[rose thorn]

But
Use him to just giggle really loud

[storm jungle]

truly uncanny

[rose thorn]

AHAHGAHSHAHA

[rose thorn]

Before after drugs

[crystal forum]

guy played suave devil and actual embodiment of syphilis

[queen laurel]

Damn zogger has range

[rocky gale]

Raphael, sexy?

https://tenor.com/view/modricaa-macaa-gif-23411313

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/raphael-baldur's-gate-3-baldur's-gate-bg3-faerun-gif-5323312125974095160

[shadow plover]

because now that I think about it now, the Bulwark or Reaper voice line about the rejects coming closer in does kinda sound like him

[rocky gale]

Gross

[queen laurel]

Considering that you like astarion, I am not at all surprised you think of him as sexy

[rocky gale]

I'd probably get less diseases from kissing the Plague Ogryn

[green loom]

https://vxtwitter.com/MunstaMasta/status/1827934636711743691

On the topic of audiobooks

[rose thorn]

Don’t click the link it leads to a scam page

[rocky gale]

Ederius trying to scam us?

[rose thorn]

I clicked thr link and it took me to a ‘your iPhone has a virus!’

[green loom]

Weird

Did you do it before I fixed it

Or when was still twiiter

Because it just redirects me to twooter

[rose thorn]

Oh before you fixed it

[green loom]

Oh god damn

Ykno I'm not surprised a scam like that would be a thing

[rose thorn]

I feel like there’s people in lore who fetishize over stormcasts

In AOS lore

[green loom]

Do scan your phone just in case something went wrong

[rose thorn]

Its good don’t worry

[queen laurel]

and i was just looking for romance ideas for my stormcast

[rose thorn]

They can canonically ahve sex and be in relationships and way and sleep and all the good stuff

[queen laurel]

damn you, you pink Genestealer

[queen laurel]

yeah good thing sigmar is based

[rose thorn]

Very

I don’t think stormcasts can get pregnant though

[crystal forum]

ayo?

[queen laurel]

yeah biologically they are just at that age too

they don't grow old

[rose thorn]

I was thinking that because their blood is lighting

[queen laurel]

yeah also apparently tastes good said the ogors

apparently they like the lightning stuff

[rose thorn]

And sigmar probably removed that function

So stormcasts don’t need to be out of actions

[rocky gale]

Hmm

Could they get other people pregnant though?

[rose thorn]

I

Wouldn’t think so

[queen laurel]

yeah uh pretty sure no

[rose thorn]

So a stormcast wouldn’t like, feel like he or she would need to stay behind to help raise a storm child

[queen laurel]

biologically they are their own race

[rose thorn]

Or they

[queen laurel]

If you can even call them biology they are practically just composed of magic at that point of life

[rose thorn]

I think that argument is out of the question since stormcasts can’t get each other pregnant

Also crazy that the n Hiram people can just randomly become pregnant

In Ghyran

[queen laurel]

i mean it in the more fictional their own race thing

like they are artificially made

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah

[queen laurel]

Is what I meant

they don't have biological aspects since sigmar made them to be his champions and stuff

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-guardians-of-the-galaxy2-peter-quill-star-lord-star-lord-what-gif-24549462

[nocturne crest]

So I'm watching this video about the Leman Russ and the creator says that the Leman Russ was built to house a shield generator inside of it.

Is it true or is it a case of really old lore?

[rose thorn]

So some areas in ghyran are so potent with life magic that people become pregnant just by being too close

Ie the water

Or I guess the ocean

[winter vessel]

Sounds like a good hangover slogan for a t shirt: “Went to Ghyran for a good time, accidentally got Pregnant.”

[queen laurel]

wow i knew life magic is powerful but

damn

[fallen plaza]

Most vehicles in the great crusade era had shielding including some dreadnoughts

[crystal forum]

i thought you said land raider, which might have been the case, but no the leman russ according to "old" lore has always been shitty

maybe newer HH rule books give it a shield generator but that's not "old" lore in that sense

[storm jungle]

ALWAYS NEXT WEEK

[queen laurel]

honestly why am i not surprised

Well at least I can count fat shark on the itemization update being fire

finally i can salvage one of my weapons

[viral halo]

Warhammer more like snorehammer amirite

borehammer

I'm here all day folks

[fallen plaza]

Oh brother this guy STINKS!

[queen laurel]

Classic Siggy either dropping in to say something goofy or drop the most hilarious Siggy Lore

[rocky gale]

Not the bore worms

[crystal forum]

one day warhammer+ will have a combined 3 hours of stuff to watch

what a time to be alive

[fallen plaza]

Hey maybe astartes 2 will release

[sour hornet]

don't do that

don't give me hope

[crystal forum]

you know the funniest thing about astartes is how many people in the community don't even know the name of the guy who made it, let alone what happened to him

there's so much wild speculation about what happened to him

you can literally just find his linkedin in like 3 google searches

[sour hornet]

Syama Pederson, blessed be his name.

https://tenor.com/view/jon-snow-take-a-knee-got-kit-harington-bow-down-gif-9470652

[fallen plaza]

Yordan pederson

[viral halo]

Dude it sucks now that I have the Punisher as my pfp everything I say comes off as racist

[fallen plaza]

I say keep it that way

[queen laurel]

yeah that is definitely not fun

[viral halo]

It's my burden to bear as a straight white man

[rocky gale]

You have my pity

[queen laurel]

yeah the white people update definitely screwed you over

[fallen plaza]

The new racism meta has definitely crippled whites nowadays, now every race is mocking them

[viral halo]

White people update is killing me

[viral halo]

when they come for the king they better not miss

Reading back on what I just wrote ^ that sounds extraordinarily racist

I will have to change teams

[fallen plaza]

That is like the least racist thing ive heard all day

I dunno where you come to that conclusion lmao

Here i can just be racist as you

[rocky gale]

Going from casual to ranked with this one chief

[viral halo]

Casual racism? We're going competitive.

[fallen plaza]

I just stubbed my toe on a black marbled stair

[queen laurel]

yeah you need to get the racism buffs

[fallen plaza]

Uh oh, i said black.

[viral halo]

Gonna need to get powers from the people that say the n word most: Latina women

[queen laurel]

oh man the N word is a pay to win buff though

always meta breaking

[viral halo]

meta breaking lmfao

I'm so mad I can't get a punisher tattoo anymore smh

[fallen plaza]

The N word is so normalized its not really that powerful anymore

Thats like the first joke any hack does to seem edgy

[viral halo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIRytMo88Jg

all time image right here

[fallen plaza]

That is a perfect image actually

[queen laurel]

Peter the king of the cotton fields

[viral halo]

Bulgur you dog you!

https://tenor.com/view/no-racism-discord-discord-no-racism-no-racism-in-oc-lore-plz-gif-3737747001863737218

[queen laurel]

Thank goodness conversation here is kept here

[viral halo]

I try to explain to my friends that this channel is basically its own discord

within a discord

[rose thorn]

Saving this

[viral halo]

and it's a hard sell

but it's truly the greatest place to be

[queen laurel]

yeah conversations here are rather hilarious

we can go about talking to tits to talking to hitler if he was a clown at mcdonald's

[viral halo]

This channel has gotten me through many tough work days

[queen laurel]

it's good stuff

[fallen plaza]

This place wouldn’t be the same if the moderation team were trigger happy

[viral halo]

I hand the students worksheets and start reading in here

[gray umbra]

I too like to shitpost

[queen laurel]

oh yeah to be fair I feel like we're lucky the only warden here who really frequents is Dils

[fallen plaza]

Also necron ass eating

[shadow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/fatality-ripping-out-throat-rage-shut-up-dont-say-that-gif-17977727587118860652

[viral halo]

This is the only warhammer server where the mod team (all of them) rocks

source: I'm on the staff in the warhammer community discord

[queen laurel]

yep

[fallen plaza]

Dont think the others arent lurking, they just dont bother too much

[sour hornet]

I never got this

[queen laurel]

yeah at least we keep our conversations contained here

[sour hornet]

that is what I'd rather be called than anything

[deft jasper]

Who's lurking?

[viral halo]

Lol

[queen laurel]

meme chat was rather leaking from time to time

[sour hornet]

the facehugger scene in alien romulus

https://tenor.com/view/wipe-off-sweat-bradley-hall-clear-the-perspiration-wash-away-sweat-gif-5666657092934823161

[fallen plaza]

Whoever post often there were often quite fruity

[viral halo]

If I don't bench 225 for reps today folks

I'm going to blow my brains out and upload it in here

with a ping to eternal so he can witness me first

[fallen plaza]

I would rather you do something more sillier

[queen laurel]

yeah sure

[fallen plaza]

Like, chug a whole beer in one go

[queen laurel]

poisoning the water supply of new york?

[viral halo]

"do it" energy

[fallen plaza]

Thats gay

[queen laurel]

damn fair point

[viral halo]

I'll be at the Mets game on 9/7 to any New Yorkers

see if you can spot me

Queens is hilarious, you walk 5 minutes from Citifield and it looks like you're in kandahar

[fallen plaza]

Whenever i hear someone talk about baseball this simpson clip comes to my head https://youtu.be/uMcfzTTKTaQ?si=CB0j9wfypIz1JxEh

[paper haven]

That's why they constantly play music to keep you entertained.

[viral halo]

nothing is boring when I sit there with 8 Miller lites, 2 hot dogs and 3 zyns in

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/8laEleUOoUM?si=6_VOvJvn7U2YmkPF this is the only thing i atribute to the word mets

[fallen plaza]

Thats the funny thing, in this clip the context is that homer is watching a game sober for the first time

[viral halo]

Peter Parker is canonically a Mets fan

LOVE THE METS

LETS GO METS

https://tenor.com/view/brandon-nimmo-nimmo-mets-pitalonzo-donodeo-gif-17918980

I want to know who made all these mets gifs on the gif keyboard that just have racist captions

if you type "brandon nimmo" on the gif keyboard, it's just racism

[gray umbra]

I h8 u guys for ruining my subway commute everytime theres a game

Its like a god damn clown car

[viral halo]

Jokes on you I take the LIRR cause the 7 line STINKS

[gray umbra]

Good man

[viral halo]

Couldn't pay me to go on the subway

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/nimmo-brandon-nimmo-mets-lgm-gif-18534828

you're not kidding they do not hold back

[gray umbra]

That shit is why i started commuting on a bike

[viral halo]

I was there for a fucking falling in reverse concert or something and a crackhead was screaming at every woman on the subway

I think almost every subway car I've been on has been filled with some violent ass crackheads

[surreal nest]

this is diabolical i hope you feel bad

[viral halo]

it was a story so far concert

[fallen plaza]

No

[sour hornet]

actual lore question

[queen laurel]

crack heads are a different breed if they are on their fuel source

[sour hornet]

are titan pilots all chromed up like mechanicus people?

or are they normal?

[queen laurel]

in lore chat there is no room for weakness

[hallow plover]

They have the brain jack to connect with the titan

[viral halo]

Princeps usually have some kinda augmetics but usually nothing crazy

Brain USB and sometimes a bionic eye here and there or limb

usually it's just brain USB and then stuff to replace injuries

[hallow plover]

Typical atuff you would see on a noble

[dusk patrol]

Their bodies are their least important aspect

[queen laurel]

Yeah but if they're way too damage like fetus they get shoved inside a jar

Most of the time they go very little in the augmentics department

[sour hornet]

Aren't they looked down upon for not having blessed machine parts in them?

[dusk patrol]

They spend all their time in their tubes once they get past Warhounds typically

[fallen plaza]

The only reason a Titan pilot would need a bionic leg is probably because he is disabled or he thought it was cool

[arctic talon]

Princeps are highly respected

By the mechanicus

[sour hornet]

That's the mechanicus' whole deal though

[viral halo]

They pilot the god machines

it's a high honor

[arctic talon]

They’re an exception to the rule

[fallen plaza]

Because princeps just sit on there asses all day

[queen laurel]

yeah they respect them

[hallow plover]

They are still a cog for the titan machine

[dusk patrol]

They’ll get wheeled around in their tubes if they need to speak but they don’t like leaving their titans

[queen laurel]

they pilot the god engines of war

[dusk patrol]

It’s addicting as hell

[arctic talon]

Princeps live pretty sedentary lives physically, mentally it’ll fucking suck lol

Like a drug addiction except with a giant mech

[surreal nest]

I wish GW would release the pilots for knights in their own box. I love their design but i am NOT paying 150 dollars for a 25mm miniature lmfao

[arctic talon]

And the mech tries to duck your soul out

[dusk patrol]

Warhound princeps notably do not often enter the tubes yet

[viral halo]

You give me a reaver titan and I'll have the city of Philadelphia turned into glass by 5pm

[queen laurel]

That constantly screams and wanting to blow up orphanage

[fallen plaza]

Basically imagine Steve O but less cringe and a Titan pilot

[sour hornet]

they're in a floating tank past a certain point?

[arctic talon]

Depends

[fallen plaza]

Basically they are adrenaline junkied

[viral halo]

ya

[queen laurel]

yeah sometimes

[arctic talon]

Some titan legions do it

Some don’t

[viral halo]

Some of them go into the splooge tank instead of chairs

[sour hornet]

this extends their life though right?

[green loom]

I remember this one comic where the princeps had to (redacted) the titan spirit to take control again

[arctic talon]

No

It’s to better integrate

The tank let’s them control the titan better

[fallen plaza]

There are other ways to extend it

[queen laurel]

yeah more into the machine when they're folding about the fluids

[arctic talon]

Don’t need to worry about things like

Your limbs

[queen laurel]

rejuvenation treatments bionics

[queen laurel]

as long as you have your torso and head you're good

[arctic talon]

You just float in the tank

[viral halo]

I like in eisenhorn when he breaches the brain of a chaos knight and watches the whole horus heresy play out through its eyes

[fallen plaza]

Bacta tank style

[dusk patrol]

Me right after they give me access to a Reaver or Warlord titan

[viral halo]

Great game, great meme, great voice actor

[sour hornet]

Do they control the titan when they're in the tank? Or are they basically just guiding a 70 meter tall genocide-addicted war machine as it does its thing?

[fallen plaza]

One thing I would like to see more with imperial knights

[dusk patrol]

I need to play the new PC version some time here

[viral halo]

mentally they kinda fuse and work as one

[fallen plaza]

Which is very goofy but

[viral halo]

but fight for control sometimes

[dusk patrol]

It depends but it’s often like controlling an animal

[fallen plaza]

I wanna see it

A space imperial knight

[dusk patrol]

Some titans are much more wild than others

[fallen plaza]

It just has a bunch of thrusters and they guard ships or something

[rugged girder]

no way i'm goign to breakdown crying

[sour hornet]

That sounds fucking badass I won't lie

[queen laurel]

yeah it's basically riding a bloodthirsty rhinoceros

[dusk patrol]

They all tend to be pretty hot blooded and bloodthirsty but some for example really like melee if they can

[viral halo]

Titans are fucking DOPE

[queen laurel]

that you try to control in the right direction and hope for the best

[dusk patrol]

And the princeps have to hold back those desires

[sour hornet]

I might take the goop tank if it means wrestling that thing into control

[viral halo]

I like in the word bearers book when they ambush the titan in the valley

on some gundam IBO shit

[queen laurel]

yes oh yeah also keep in mind they're not that big

[dusk patrol]

Princeps are absurdly rare

[fallen plaza]

I was pretty annoyed when they revealed the warmaster Titans existance

[queen laurel]

they're massive yes but they're not that big

[viral halo]

Reaver coolest titan

[arctic talon]

Princeps are more valuable then the titan

[fallen plaza]

But nowadays I've warmed up to there existance

[arctic talon]

Lol

[viral halo]

than*

sorry

❤️

[arctic talon]

[dusk patrol]

It’s one of the rarest people they find in the Imperium

[sour hornet]

Princeps vs a legion of Skitarii?

[dusk patrol]

Princeps

[fallen plaza]

Weird how they decided on a warmaster but not an emperor titan

[dusk patrol]

Easy

[queen laurel]

i sentence you watching a baseball game with no food and beer

[arctic talon]

They’d sacrifice the whole legion if it meant getting the princeps back

[viral halo]

NOOOOOOOO

[dusk patrol]

They will literally send legions to retrieve one

[viral halo]

mechanicus will also send millions to their death for a shiny orb or something

[arctic talon]

Hell a secutarii legion would prolly do it on their own 💀

[dusk patrol]

The ad mech does not often value life is what’s special

[arctic talon]

Everyone is disposable

[viral halo]

I like when they corrupt the one magos in the WB trilogy

Darioq

Grendel

[fallen plaza]

Everyone in 40k kinda forgets to live when they wanna retrieve relics

[hallow plover]

He was nice

[fallen plaza]

Space Marines can be silly reckless too

[hallow plover]

Darioq the tentacle man

[fallen plaza]

Mainly for termies

[queen laurel]

how rare is a princept even for the smaller titans

i feel like you only really need to do that on the larger ones right

[crystal forum]

alright maybe for warhounds

[arctic talon]

No

They’re rarer

The bigger the titan gets

[crystal forum]

but you're not telling me a princeps is rarer than an imperator

[arctic talon]

A warhound princeps

Often cannot pilot a reaver

[crystal forum]

i thought it went with experience

[arctic talon]

They literally can be for some titan legions

[dusk patrol]

Very few princeps can pilot imperators

[arctic talon]

No, sometime people never can get the mental willpower to endure it

[queen laurel]

then i can imagine that emperor titan princeps are basically chosen ones

[fallen plaza]

I find that a weird lore tidbit

[dusk patrol]

It’s magnitudes above being able to pilot a warlord or warmaster

[fallen plaza]

Considering the size of the Titan legions in the crusades

[arctic talon]

I’d assume princeps don’t die often

Is the lore explanation

They live pampered lives outside of battle

[crystal forum]

i legit thought that part was just a power fantasy thing where most princeps just become insane and think they're the titan themselves

[queen laurel]

so the best ways to disable a titan is to kill them right

[arctic talon]

You get your soul torn out your body if that happens

[crystal forum]

huh????

[fallen plaza]

Either that or they gathered a lot for the millenia that the legions have existed for considering a lot of them predate the Imperium

[arctic talon]

If you go completely crazy while piloting a titan

Usually the titan just

Takes control lol

Which involves your soul getting torn out your body

[sour hornet]

Sounds like a cushy job, for 40k standards.

[arctic talon]

You literally get everything you ever want

The mechanicus spoils princeps

Lol

[queen laurel]

would you rather pilot a titan or become a chaos lord bound to terminator armor

[fallen plaza]

Even by our standards it is cushy

[viral halo]

brb gotta go argue politics in another discord wish me luck

[fallen plaza]

How fucking often do you pilot a mech irl

[crystal forum]

then what about the princeps who get interred in their titans like a dread

[arctic talon]

They aren’t connected 24/7

And they still need to maintain the difference between them and the titan

They’re the titans master, the pilot

Not the titan themselves

[dusk patrol]

It’s by choice

It makes them better and more connected with the titan but it wasn’t done prior to the heresy

It was a primary loyalist advantage

[crystal forum]

this lore displeases me. abelard, cut off his balls

[dusk patrol]

They started doing it and it improved their combat ability

[crystal forum]

to think that warhounds were expendable during the heresy

[arctic talon]

Also I forgot but being a princeps is one of those rare things that are genetic iirc

[dusk patrol]

Technically but it’s also the hardest target, the best way to disable titans besides other titans is mostly infantry

[arctic talon]

So the mechanicus does do uh

[dusk patrol]

But that’s why Securiti exist

[arctic talon]

You know

[queen laurel]

they're probably guarded by some elite soldiers

[arctic talon]

Eugenics

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[sour hornet]

Warhounds are expendable in a Legio v. Legio fight I'd assume

[queen laurel]

so trying to assassinate them would be funny

[dusk patrol]

They don’t often leave their titans

And they’re always guarded by their Legio Skitarti

[crystal forum]

i wish we could use those imperialis warhounds with the massive cannons in 40k

[arctic talon]

Direhound is adorable

[crystal forum]

i like small things carrying oversized guns

[dusk patrol]

Who are quite numerous and fanatical in their devotion to their Legio and princeps

It does happen though

[arctic talon]

Secutarii are religious fanatics by skitarii standards

[crystal forum]

destroyer russ my beloved

i want to see a turreted shadowsword like that recent baneblade kitbash

"private, that titan over the displeases me"
"shall we fire the shadowsword formation sire"
"myesss"

[fallen plaza]

The tiger eyes legion is probably my favorite legion

They look so fucking cool

[crystal forum]

what is it

show

[fallen plaza]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Legio_Fureans

[dusk patrol]

Legio Astorum is my favorite

They teleport their titans to the surface

[fallen plaza]

Look at there goddamn iconography

[crystal forum]

i see some japanese oni shit in there

[dusk patrol]

Which we never get to fucking see cause authors suck

[crystal forum]

wait is that... thai?

[queen laurel]

and to think that in Brutal kunning they didn't need to sacrifice those people for the teleportation tech in the gargant

i assume it's lost tech then

[dusk patrol]

I’m convinced their armor design inspired the awoken/dreaming city aesthetic in Destiny 2

[crystal forum]

doesnt look the same

[dusk patrol]

No they just don’t share

[crystal forum]

what the hell is that script

[sour hornet]

Hindi

Obv

[dusk patrol]

They’re the Legio for Forgeworld Lucius

[arctic talon]

Lucius isn’t sharing their special tech

Lol

[dusk patrol]

Both have a huge superiority complex

Which they largely back up

[queen laurel]

No wonder that bitch wanted that gargant teleportation tech

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[fallen plaza]

Hmm

[crystal forum]

god damnit

so close

indian inspired stuff in 40k is definitely a pleasant surprise

[sour hornet]

^

they just became about 5× cooler

[fallen plaza]

I wasnt aware of this

Thought it was some prince symbol lookin thing

[sour hornet]

european/latin stuff is pretty cool, but this stuff is just cooler

[crystal forum]

i'll take anything that isn't the classic fantasy stuff from celtic and norse

[sour hornet]

real

[crystal forum]

but indian mythology is cool as fuck too

extra points

[fallen plaza]

I like barbarians in fantasy when your killing them

Like in verm2

[crystal forum]

me when i play as the original yorrik the 2nd, a muscled bare chest blond guy draped in bear furs and horned helmet

[winter vessel]

I just watched the trailer for the second episode of the TIthes. with the brief 5 seconds of their appearance, anyone have an idea what Astartes chapter that was?

[crystal forum]

somebody asks this question but about the arbites unit and 5 people in the replies say that it's solar auxilia

1 person saying it's ultramar auxilia

[winter vessel]

are they high?

[crystal forum]

i'm surprised somebody can reach that far into the lore depths to bring out ultramar auxilia despite the dredd ass pauldron being in full view lmao

[winter vessel]

I'm no lore savant on the Auxilia, but even I know those fossils belong in a museum with how old they are. and how wrecked their numbers were during the Heresy

[arctic talon]

The marine chapter potentially looks like the White Templars

Who to their horror

Are not sons of dorn

[crystal forum]

there's also one back shot that looks like scouts

[arctic talon]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/f/fa/WhiteTemplarsMultari.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190829211605

The scheme fits

[crystal forum]

evil black templar be like

[arctic talon]

LOL

[crystal forum]

help the xeno, greet the heretic

cleanse them with niceness

[winter vessel]

"hmmm what else could we differentiate from the BT? Let's add four streaks near the tips of their cross and switch the colors!"

[crystal forum]

it doesnt help that it's just the black templar colours but reversed

for tabletop players who really love citadel white i guess (maniacs)

[winter vessel]

It almost reminds me of the Jerusalem cross that Knights used during the Crusades. if you keep the four streaks but remove the spurred ends and stretch the cross a little further.

I like how one of their lore bits is that when they got presented the "You're Adopted!" card and not actually being related to the IFs( according to the Administratum), they want on a crusade to discover the truth about their origin

[arctic talon]

They double checked during the new tyrannic war lol

The phalanx was around so they went to get their geneseed tested and turns out they in fact aren’t lol

[winter vessel]

they went on FamilySearch.org on the Noosphere to discover they have no relations

[arctic talon]

“We have to be sons of dorn there’s no way we aren’t”

the DNA test in question

[winter vessel]

"You are...NOT THE FATHER!" Dorn starts doing backflips on stage while the White Templars storm off crying

[celest dome]

But then who is the father ?

[arctic talon]

We dunno

Statistically guilliman or lion

The fists still let them on the phalanx and stuff though lol

Because they’ve been assumed to be fist successors so long and attended many like

Feasts of blades

[winter vessel]

"welcome to the family, son" punch

[crystal forum]

just like the soul drinkers lol

still dont know what their origin is

and had to be told directly on the phalanx

except soul drinkers also completely died out and the new primaris are even MORE confused

[arctic talon]

Tbf at least this time presumably they’re fists

Maybe

Hopefully

[crystal forum]

soul drinkers?

[arctic talon]

The primaris ones

[crystal forum]

oh lol

i never even thought of that

they needed a gene seed to recreate the chapter

still though it's super weird to imagine what the original's founding chapter is

40k theories made a video about it which is also the thing that got me into them

https://youtu.be/GlYub94tDtA?si=HvUqom_lbpr7knmO

i love soul drinkers so much

they're peak 40k classical theater drama

just a chapter doing everything correctly and still being constantly shat on by everything in the galaxy

[arctic talon]

It is what it is

Chapter master we’re running out of “it is what it is”

[crystal forum]

the fact that there's no clear way to tell where they come from

[arctic talon]

The primaris finding out sarpadon turned into a spider is funny

[rose thorn]

40k lore in a out shell

Nut

[crystal forum]

i need to read that new novella

[hallow plover]

Half of them decided to follow a heavily mutated librarian after he killed their chapter master

[crystal forum]

my personal theory is they're part of a lost legion

because i like the idea

and there's no true way to determine where they come from

[crystal forum]

because they knew what was right

and because they were lied to by a greater demon okay? give them a break

plus they fucking killed that demon afterwards

god that moment was soooooo goose pumps level cool

[arctic talon]

Jay reading souldrinkers

https://tenor.com/view/i-get-it-omg-danny-devito-oh-my-god-gif-15873107

[crystal forum]

greater tzeentch demon rips off a chunk of the massive space hulk home just to present himself to sarpedon
BEHOLD, I AM THE EMPEROR

sarpedon activating the soul spear
you ain't my emperor

the sheer fucking commitment to kill the demon that's been manipulating you since the very beginning to go against the imperium

and STILL remaining against the imperium

it's peak ok?

ITS SO PEAK

then they're like, we need to redeem ourselves for this shit

so they

ATTACK A CHAOS PLANET

by this point they're literally trying on purpose to die in combat

yet they manage to kill the greater demon in charge of the planet, cleansing it

the reactions of the nurgle guys are so funny they're like what kind of morons would attack us in a frontal land assault??

[dusk patrol]

Soul Drinkers is a wild series

[crystal forum]

i love it so much

crazy wild ride

the book after that one is my favorite

because it's the most insane one

ben counter decides to up the stakes even higher by creating a weird psyker creature that's trying to elevate itself to godhood

and it can control entire planets of undead

and half the book is following an inquisitor on the tail of the soul drinkers

always one step behind

[hallow plover]

The Soul Drinkers were dumb even by space marines standard from the moment the admech cucked them until Sarpedon lost his honorable duel

[crystal forum]

and it follows a couple of other people too

then at the very end they all cross paths together

and it's SO GOOD

[hallow plover]

I liked the book 1 and 2 but after that it was a drag for me

I enjoyed the end since you have many points of view during ||the trial of Sarpedon ||

[crystal forum]

wdym they're dumb

it's the mechanicus that's dumb imo

and the ministorum guy for being such a weak bitch

[hallow plover]

"We are all getting mutations! Surely it must be the will of the Emperor"

Admech did admech things

As expected tbh

[crystal forum]

there's also the fact that they meet a supposed emperor worshiper who only managed to survive in a slavery station by praying to his deity, who then convinces them that they're the emperor's chosen

you even see them start the book absolutely hating mutants

[opaque coyote]

I love how 40k books are like a mixture of

Absolute Grimdark and trashy scifi

Like some moments are just directly off of a novel in the 1930's

[crystal forum]

plus sarpedon never wanted to be the leader

40k cliché of protagonist being put in leadership position because predecessor died

[hallow plover]

I liked the techmarine

Nice guy

[crystal forum]

oh yeah that guy

i love when he hooks into the station and talks to the machine spirit lol

graevus or something i think

been a while

also the fact that all the characters die off

i love that about the series, it doesn't do the fucking ultramarines thing of always bringing back characters

[hallow plover]

Its a good story overall but there are drags in the middle

the DE and ork books

I couldnt give a damn about the scouts

They fucked up everything

[crystal forum]

ye the DE book has some long boring moments

and the one after it with the chapter civil war is a bit annoying

like they go through the whole process of getting new recruits who can think independently

and of course it backfires

BUT

the DE book is where i got this quote

i need to get it from a year ago

[gray umbra]

Being a spider must be cool

[crystal forum]

this is how the chapter starts

[hallow plover]

Basically a Skaven

[winter vessel]

man, talk about a good opening

[crystal forum]

i laughed for a good while

it comes out of nowhere

also the book mentions cadia and usarkar creed which i didn't know were a thing in 2008 or whenever they were written

[rocky gale]

I don't know whether to give or subtract points for not making the obvious sex joke

[crystal forum]

is there a joke to be made

[rocky gale]

Yes

[crystal forum]

she dies by being nuked by a vortex missile

FYI

[rocky gale]

I tried to google her and for some reason the Wiki page is in German

[gray umbra]

Because bdsm

[crystal forum]

i'm surprised she'd even get a page

she's barely a character

[rocky gale]

I assume it's her's

[crystal forum]

yup, dark eldar are in the story as well

so probably

[rocky gale]

"Saretha is a chaos witch of Slaanesh and leader of a chaos cult

On Entymion IV she supported the Dark Eldar in her attempt to open a warptor. She was adored by her followers and everyone would have died for her. Saretha was able to kill other people with the power of their thoughts."

[crystal forum]

one thing i like doing sometimes is looking up those one off vehicles in books sometimes and you can find wiki pages on them with like 1 phrase

there's a soul drinker one about a deep space patrol craft

i dont remember its name

[rocky gale]

Anyway, this has interrupted my Aliens lore scrolling

I was just reading about The Woman in the Dark

[crystal forum]

who is the woman in the dark

[rocky gale]

Apparently she's a figure that everyone see's after they've been infected by a facehugger

[winter vessel]

you mean the Goddess?

[rocky gale]

Yes

Both names apply

[crystal forum]

there's gods in alienverse?

[winter vessel]

when you said the "Woman in the Dark" i thought you were referring to this 1934 movie I studied in film class

[rocky gale]

Na

and the real spooky part is that we now have a canon date and story for when she was created in universe, but people started seeing her over 20 years before then.

[queen laurel]

i forget the alien vs Predator universe can get way too deep sometimes

[hallow plover]

Nice. I've been rewatching the whole series with the new one that came out

[crystal forum]

which one's the worst

[hallow plover]

Tfw Weyland-Yutani work ethics aren't far fetched anymore

[rocky gale]

This is comic stuff, the RPG surprisingly seems to get even more batshit with the lore

[winter vessel]

three things matter to me in the Alien Films: Sigourney Weaver, Michael Biehn, and Bill Paxton

and yk where i stopped

[crystal forum]

the cat

the most important character in alien

[winter vessel]

ah silly me, forget about ol Jonesy

[crystal forum]

i really like the cinematography of the first movie

that one short scene in first person with the flamethrower

so good

[winter vessel]

If there's one thing Aliens is consistent at is being inconsistent with the Xenomorph and their life cycle

[crystal forum]

i like to lump those monster creatures in the "they're scary because they can do anything" pile

[rocky gale]

Well they are a hyper adaptive parasitic creature, there's going to be variance based off of hosts

[crystal forum]

like if xenomorphs had clear life cycles they'd be less scary because you can predict what they can do

[winter vessel]

I'm mainly just expressing my one critique when I watched Aliens Romulus on how they did that, everything else was satisfactory

[crystal forum]

alienverse definitely had some weird moments

which alien vs predator had the impregnator thing

[rocky gale]

AVP2

The Predalien

[crystal forum]

like that's straight up a fetish

[rocky gale]

It's all fetish

[winter vessel]

ah yeah, my room with all the lights turned off Is somehow CLEARER, then that movie's night time segment

[arctic talon]

Alien would not be alien without being freaky

[crystal forum]

naaah i get what you mean but it's supposed to be gross sex not literal fetish

facehuggers are gross af

[fallen plaza]

They are literal fetish though

All of alien is

[winter vessel]

H.R Giger had some creativity with the biomechanic artstyle

[crystal forum]

it's not a fetish just because it has sexual themes

[rocky gale]

Gross sex is gross to people who don't have that fetish

[crystal forum]

you can do sexual themes without being into it

[fallen plaza]

And aliens is into it

That is the thing

[crystal forum]

i dont think that's true

[rocky gale]

I'm not saying they were explicitly into the themes, but all of it is still fetish

[queen laurel]

giant alien thing inserting eggs into throat of girl?

seems pretty fetish to me man

[crystal forum]

yes that's a sex theme i know

but a direct fetish would be something like totally spies

like you can TELL

[near wasp]

What the fuck

[rocky gale]

Hey lets not besmirch the good name of Totally Spies

I grew up watching that show and it was completely normal

[crystal forum]

and that's why you ended up so normal right

[winter vessel]

Somehow it ain't the Groin Claw that disturbs me, its what comes after it. a dark perverse nature of life. ya wake up, feeling disoriented and sick, unaware you got 6 pounds of alien worm nestled in your body

[crystal forum]

and then an unwanted creature comes out of your body

there's some parallels to real life there

[rocky gale]

The problem is there is significant overlap between what kids find funny and what adults can find erotic or fetish

[winter vessel]

I'm surprised how most hosts don't notice the extra weight considering how big it gets while inside em

[rocky gale]

Like watching as a kid I thought "Ha they're all tall now that's funny" not "Giant woman fetish" or "Ha they got muscular but now they're kinda stupid" not "Muscular woman fetish"

[crystal forum]

i still think the creators were into that

[rocky gale]

Then I have something for you

https://tenor.com/view/totally-spies-gif-24467456

[winter vessel]

I just wished Prometheus was its own universe and not nestled into the Aliens universe, I kinda missed that mysterious and vague origin of Xenos like in the first film. These Giant ass albinos being the creator of all life.

and destroyers

[rocky gale]

It's more complex than even that

The Engineers didn't creat the black goo

[crystal forum]

if you read the original script of prometheus you'll notice that so much is never explained because studio execs cut out a ton

i always hate when that happens no matter how good or bad a film would be

[sour hornet]

speak for yourself

[crystal forum]

we just see a random guy kill himself at the start and we're supposed to understand that there was a massive civil war before that

[winter vessel]

Plot twist: he drank Logan Paul and KSI's Prime energy drink

[rocky gale]

The Deacon (It's not always called the Deacon though and is not to be confused with the Deacon which was made in the movie when the Engineer got infected) created the goo and perfected the Engineers and was basically their god, teaching them genetic engineering, but then the Deacon died and the Engineers tried to use the Goo to recreate the Deacon but instead accidentally created the Xenomorph and many other races all in an attempt to recreate their God.

[queen laurel]

bro

this shit becoming as deep as halo

[crystal forum]

it was a good attempt at lore imo

the movie just does it terribly

[storm jungle]

Prometheus is a good movie

its just not a good Alien movie

lol

[winter vessel]

I would've been fine if it was just a movie, By itself, not connected with the Xenoverse

[rocky gale]

and if we're talking RPG lore as well the Engineers also created the Fulfremmen (The Perfected) by genetically enhancing humans who then went on to try and "Perfect" all other forms of life

[queen laurel]

are the Yautja at least their own thing and not related to the engineers?

[rocky gale]

Uhh

[dusk patrol]

Ehhh

I love it

But idk if I’d say it’s a good movie

[viral halo]

the deleted scenes make it significantly better

[winter vessel]

"A doughnut hole in the doughnut's hole. But we must look a little closer. And when we do, we see that the doughnut hole has a hole in its center. it is not a doughnut hole at all but a smaller doughnut with its own hole, and our doughnut is not whole at all!". -this is my take on the complexity of the AVP universe

[dusk patrol]

It has a good movie in there, which sometimes gets cut with a mentally disabled basic as fuck horror movie

[storm jungle]

From the amount of effort behind it id say its Good™️

not "good"

its still Ridley thinking hes a clever cunt adding christianity symbolism everywhere

[dusk patrol]

There’s few movies I love as much and hate as much

[storm jungle]

a fucking Engineer being Jesus is bad as Big E being big historical figures in history like what some dumbasses think in the 40k fandom lol

[rocky gale]

Yea Yautja are their own thing, it's implied they've fought wars against the Engineers though

[dusk patrol]

Honestly if he just made everyone a bit smarter and less pants on head stupid horror movie moments

[viral halo]

I'll always agree with AVP3 for alien lore, the predators made it as the ultimate prey

[winter vessel]

But I think we can all agree the biggest slip up in that film: The lack of spatial reasoning these scientists had when running from a massive object plummeting to the ground

[rocky gale]

AVP3?

[crystal forum]

80's directors being given all the credit for movies they made with writers and all sorts of other talent

[fallen marsh]

wait....there was avp3?

[dusk patrol]

I forgot they made three of those

[rocky gale]

Bro is seeing the future movie

[dusk patrol]

Or did they?

[storm jungle]

oh my god

they mock that in Kong Skull Island

[queen laurel]

oh thank god

[dusk patrol]

I remember the second being better then the first

[storm jungle]

"RUN TO THE SIDE IDIOT"

[crystal forum]

that was a meme for a solid year lol

[dusk patrol]

Skull Island is the most brutal PG-13 movie I’ve seen

[storm jungle]

^

[queen laurel]

this is me every time there is a child standing as a building is falling on him

[dusk patrol]

I don’t know how that shit got away with it

[queen laurel]

On the film

[storm jungle]

easy

dont show blood

[winter vessel]

Like, I ain't know scientist, but i know my chances of survival are better, when Im running to the FREAKING LEFT OR RIGHT

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/TXp88GVF-To

[crystal forum]

skull island should have cut out the long ass buildup

[arctic talon]

Skull island goes hard

Smh

[crystal forum]

but yes skull island gave me nightmares as a kid

[queen laurel]

this is how regular show got away from killing people

just do explosions

[dusk patrol]

Its called building suspense Jay

[storm jungle]

"long ass buildup"

You do know in Peter Jackson's one it takes an hour to get to the island right.

[rocky gale]

It's also worth noting that the experiments David does in the Prometheus movies don't ultimately create the Xenomorphs, he's just off doing side projects

[queen laurel]

And in the movie The ending was just the gorilla fighting some planes

[crystal forum]

wait is skull island not the peter jackson one

[storm jungle]

Romulus also thankfully confirms the black goo was made from the xenomorph's genetic material

[dusk patrol]

For those of us who aren’t kino Philistines

[storm jungle]

Skull Island is the reboot franchise stuff, Jackson's is its own thing

[crystal forum]

which one has the cannibal tribe

[storm jungle]

Jackson

[crystal forum]

oh

[rocky gale]

Jacksons one was the one with the giant bug scene

[winter vessel]

The Offspring was uh...it kept me up at night

[rocky gale]

Which is terrifying

[storm jungle]

Skull island has the tribesmen but they are just fatalistic mute people

[dusk patrol]

Skull island has Kong Kalamari

[storm jungle]

actual nightmare fuel

its not even funny

https://tenor.com/view/king-kong-bug-gif-26782529

[crystal forum]

im thinking of jackson kne then

[storm jungle]

id rather fucking die than fall down there holy shit

[winter vessel]

when the raid can is out of juice

[queen laurel]

the one with the V rex

[fallen plaza]

God

[rocky gale]

Here's the scene

https://youtu.be/xXsqMeSzo1M

It's horrifying

[fallen plaza]

I remember being pissed off the t-rex died when I was a kid

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/mLDidwx7Yfs?si=kJ3Qvb_C4CGNmpOK

[crystal forum]

my brain mentally stays far from those drain holes on sinks because as a kid that claw that grabs the guy trying to climb up the cliff is welded into my brain