40k-lore-chat

[vital swift]

$90

[nocturne crest]

Forgot about the Ravenwing.

[dusk patrol]

It’s a pretty great model too tbh

Not surprised they haven’t updated it yet with how well it holds up

[nocturne crest]

||Maybe they'll eventually remove it like they did with Seth?||

[dusk patrol]

Maybe, they haven’t yet though

I imagine it’s just it holds up well and it was much newer than the others they replaced

[vital swift]

gw gonna remove anything that isnt intercessors atp

[nocturne crest]

|| NGL, surprised the Baal Predator is still around. ||

[rose thorn]

I for joy that was real

I forgot that was

[dusk patrol]

My only real issue with it is the head is pretty meh but that’s easy to fix

[rose thorn]

Hey didn’t blood angels have a Phobos character?

No I’m just crazy lol

[dusk patrol]

Not a character no

But you can bring a Phobos captain if you want I guess

There’s only one Phobos character really anyways

Technically the UM captain is one but he’s not represented in rules I don’t think

But Shrike is the main obvious example

Phobos is in a rough spot anyways

[arctic talon]

Raven Guard: dark fury's or Moriats.
Salamanders: pyroclasts or firedrakes.
Iron Hands: Helfathers, Medusan Immortals
Imperial fists: Idfk Phalanx Warders? I guess?
White Scars: Ebon Keshig or Golden Keshig.
Ultramarines: Fulmentarus

I'm excluding the first founding chapters that have their own codex

[nocturne crest]

Yeah, those are the chapters I was thinking of.

[arctic talon]

imo fists are like

fists and ultras are the hardest to come up with anything imo

Since for Fists huscarls still exist lore wise

And a lot of their unique stuff got eaten up by the black templars

so I'm left with like Phalanx Warders lol

and for UM a lot of their stuff was for legion level stuff or destroyers

[median star]

Ironhands mentioned

[dusk patrol]

Iron Father generic model is the most likely choice, Helfather is what I would want

Or a special dread maybe

[arctic talon]

Makes sense

[dusk patrol]

Actually I lied, the most likely choice is nothing happens

[arctic talon]

💀

12e

Or 11e

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

Surely

[dusk patrol]

Maybe

I cope and pray

[arctic talon]

GW are running out of units to make primaris lol

[median star]

I hear theirs these two legions that uh

[shell mason]

Here me out, death guard loyalist warband

[arctic talon]

Killing you

🪨

[nocturne crest]

Helfather, Keys of Hel or that Dread carrying landraider would be my pick for Iron hands and their successors.

[shell mason]

I don't mind

in fact

I welcome it

[crystal forum]

finally got my chaos black spray so i can start my iron hands

[shell mason]

Gas

[grave sparrow]

Other than Kor Phaeron and Luther, were there any other notable heavily augmented humans in the astartes legions?

[lunar crag]

erebus

erebussy

[crystal forum]

what

[crystal forum]

augmented with bionics?

most of the iron hands legion

[grave sparrow]

just members of astartes legions that aren't true astartes, like being too old

[shell mason]

it's kool

[grave sparrow]

I thought he was a true astartes, was he too old too?

[lunar crag]

im pretty sure he was a bit too old

for the full thing

[crystal forum]

i forgot about that piece of lore that they werent full astartes

[lunar crag]

yeah only children

erebus was like a adult cultist

that was part of lorgar weirdo stuff

[grave sparrow]

So basically all the augmented humans that weren't true astartes were all assholes lol

[lunar crag]

lmaoooo

[crystal forum]

not very notable but there's the bodyguard dude who gets astartes implants during one of the first HH books

flight of the eisenstein i think

and yeah he joins horus so asshole as well

[grave sparrow]

oh yeah, he was the remebrancer bodyguard right? I don't think he was ever really considered like a legionairre or however that's spelled

[crystal forum]

yeah

dude was just really good at combat

[grave sparrow]

kinda like on line with a lot of the alpha legion agents

I'm gettin through the Mark of Calth anthology rn and it just got me wondering how many others there were like Kor Phaeron. Honestly it's kinda disappointing there wasn't a loyalist one

[lunar crag]

you guys ever wonder why the emperor never used religion as a weapon

in the current setting their belief that he is god is kind of giving the emperor power

and technically speaking with that much belief there is possibly a realm for human souls in the warp now

[nocturne crest]

I do wonder if the GK will get the primaris treatment.

[outer wave]

Because at that time, the Emperor was trying to snuff out as much religion as possible in order to quell influence to the chaos gods, though that ultimately failed due to multiple factors. In his eyes, trying to weaponize religion would have done more bad than good

[grave sparrow]

I think he was basically trying to completely avoid humanity's involvement with the warp, essentially weakening it

which was why his webway project was so important, don't need navigators anymore. Probably would've ended up giving psykers the thunderwarrior treatment lol

[lunar crag]

the only reason why i thought of this is bc he can write morals and tenets on how to live life very similar to the 10 commandments we have in real life

[lunar crag]

navigators prolly would have gotten wiped but i think he would just shove all human psykers into it

[median star]

Wasnt it part of the emperors plans to have the whole race eventually ascending to a psychic state

[arctic talon]

Multiple in the Dark Angels

[grave sparrow]

oh yeah some of his other knight buddies, forgot about them

[arctic talon]

They'll get updated to New marine scale prolly

like the HH minis

considering the new crowe

[outer wave]

Whats that in his hand

[nocturne crest]

Daemonswors

[arctic talon]

A daemon weapon

black sword of something

[outer wave]

Oh its that guy with the slaanesh daemon sword?

[arctic talon]

it drives people who use it insane generally

[grave sparrow]

I think he wanted to get more into science, feel like he wouldn't have shut down the Librarius at the council of Nykea if he wanted that

[arctic talon]

So he just holds onto it so no one gets a smart idea to like use it

[outer wave]

Would it be wise to use it against daemons though?

[arctic talon]

bcs its corrupted multiple other grey knights

[arctic talon]

Works great on Daemons

[outer wave]

Huh

[nocturne crest]

Tbh, I feel like that space marines should have chapter serfs as a unit.

[arctic talon]

Most daemon weapons work well on daemons

they're made out of raw warpstuff

[crystal forum]

greyknights are just termies right so they wont get any different armour

[median star]

Was that not a him giving the call too the primarchs situation

[arctic talon]

Black Blade of Antwyr

[arctic talon]

They're in their own Aegis armor

which is arguably like

MK8 or 9 lol

its designed for anti daemon stuff

[grave sparrow]

it was also to put Magnus in his place to appease some of his other sons, yeah

[crystal forum]

who's damon

[arctic talon]

huh

[crystal forum]

come on elite dont stoop to the british

[arctic talon]

demon, daemon doesn't fucking matter

smh

[crystal forum]

one sounds like a stroke

daehmon

[median star]

I think the emperor really didnt care tbh he was just a in a mood of what the fuck is this shit idk yall handle it youre the ones on the frontlines dealing w it iv gota get back to webway stuff

[rose thorn]

trying... to resist the urge... of how stupid selling these ancient ass old world models is

[outer wave]

No go off queen

[crystal forum]

pls no fantasy

https://youtu.be/9fYMToPz7yM?si=v8OCbVaURvUbTJoq

GRAVIS PLASMA

I AM HAPPY

[rose thorn]

aaAAA ITS SO BADDDD, i look at the resin models and new models for kitbash ideas. im so anrgy slaves to darkness- i mean uh, chaos warriors? waht every theya re called. GOT NOTHING

GW KNOWS YOU CAN JUST BUY THE AOS MODELS

PLS

[outer wave]

Im glad Im not into plastic crack at all

[crystal forum]

also wtf the cog thing on the plasma gun rotates??

that looks so dumb

[rose thorn]

i hate old world, but they deserve better then models older then 80% of the ppl on this server

[crystal forum]

if gravis guns automatically get "gravis'd" this might mean i can get multi melta

[rose thorn]

pretty sure its a fuel sell

cell*

[outer wave]

They did do an overhaul on Brettonian models didnt they?

[rose thorn]

yeah them and tomb kings. the two easiest to proxy armies in old world

the most generic armies in the game

[crystal forum]

no it's the thing that indicates the variant on models. bolters have it too and there's smooth versions

[crystal forum]

except in 10th they got removed

so now models ship with variants that dont do anything different

at least it lets you have gun aesthetic options i guess

[rose thorn]

but like, orcs got 2 models (which are great for kitbashes and proxies i love the swamp shaman), dwarves got 2/3, but chaos warriors and chaos beasts got nothing

at least so far

[outer wave]

So wait you hate TOW; why are you looking at those old ass models for kit bashes?

[rose thorn]

the FW mdoels are nice, and the new old world models are nice

i dont like teh setting

[outer wave]

Gotcha gotcha

[winter vessel]

||so I just finished watching “The Tithes”, very good btw. And Ik Brutus sustained a fatal hit from a Necron Gauss flayer in the back. If he were to be struck in his limbs( legs or arms) would it continue to break his whole body down at the molecular level?||

^
Spoilers for the 40k animation that was released recently, don’t click if haven’t watched yet

[arctic talon]

Yes

Getting ||hit anywhere is death unless you amputate the part before it spreads which is pretty much impossible to do||

[winter vessel]

||man. Neuron weapons suck. I’m impressed the Apothecary was still conscious to fire a few shots left.||

[arctic talon]

tbh

the most survivable necron weapon is prolly like

Tesla guns

[winter vessel]

The ones the Immortals use?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

its just "normal" electricty

like it'll fucking melt armor and burn flesh

but it doesn't literally rip you apart piece of by piece or disintegrate your nervous system lol

[dusk patrol]

False, warrior fist

Look at those arms, bro can’t be that strong

Terrible posture

Terrible form

Low speed

Low effort

Pathetic

No explosiveness, telegraphed as fuck

[arctic talon]

LOL

Not wrong

[nocturne crest]

Is there any Kkorne warbands that are more specialised in long range or armoured warfare than melee?

[green loom]

Ye

There's one called the Bloodstalkers

They focus on range

66th armoured company focuses on vics

[nocturne crest]

Even more silly, but what about Tzeentch Warbands that are anti-sorcery and more interested in machinery?

[arctic talon]

There’s a thousand sons warband that makes extensive use of daemon engines

Still sorcerery adjacent

But less direct magic and more

BIG ROBOT POWERED BY DAEMON

[shell mason]

makes sense cause dusty bois

[sick escarp]

Quick question, if you think about it could veteran be a weak pysker with the shout of command? From a lore standpoint does shouting normally make any sense to grant buffs? Or am I just going to deep into things and sounding stupid

[opaque coyote]

I think canonically it's just the veteran going

"KEEP IT TOGETHER JACKASSES"

And the toughness is basically just restored morale

They could be a very low psychic tho

[shell mason]

Mmmmm, sound heretical. Face the wall

[sick escarp]

I’m gonna pretend they are cause it makes them more unique

Only when using the shout ability though cause the others can be explained via logic, well, warhammer logic

[shell mason]

Or

Threats of death

[sick escarp]

Fair

[shell mason]

it's a good motivator

[sick escarp]

Adrenaline is hell of a drug

[shell mason]

I mean at work earlier me and some lads decided to wrestle

[sick escarp]

I just introduced a friend to warhammer and he joked saying

“I can be a pacifist while being loyal to the throne”, I told him that would get him executed faster than he can say a single letter

[shell mason]

I mean

You could

[sick escarp]

He’s a veteran

[shell mason]

Could do medical

[sick escarp]

I ain’t telling him any of this info cause it was funny telling him what I already did

[shell mason]

that's fucked

I read your name and think of fear and hunger

[sick escarp]

Alright then?

[shell mason]

look at this goober

[sick escarp]

And that is? I’m new to 40K

[shell mason]

oh no that's from fear and hunger

[sick escarp]

I know nothing about that either

[shell mason]

shame

[opaque coyote]

I mean you could if you were in medical

[shell mason]

THATS WHAT I SAID

[opaque coyote]

But then again, you'd probably have to give some people uh

"The emperor's peace"

yourself

[sick escarp]

I never said I didn’t believe you, I’m just messing with my friend and having fun with him

[opaque coyote]

"Ah, looks like you're suffering from nurgle pox. Oh well."

BLAM

[shell mason]

no I was agree with Laati

[opaque coyote]

But in general

Unless if you are in some random ass backwater world

[shell mason]

Little las-gun round to the face don't hurt no one

[sick escarp]

Ah, Miss understood the “vibes” my apologies

[opaque coyote]

You're not gonna be a pacifist

You're gonna be the exact opposite

Imperial creed literally states that hatred is a virtue

Ignorance is strength

[shell mason]

Unless your born on a paradise world

but that

Ha

hahahahahaha

[opaque coyote]

Paradise Worlds are filled with degeneracy tho

[shell mason]

is extremely not common

[shell mason]

what world isn't my friend?

unless it's holy terra

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but Paradise Worlds are the Slaaneshi type yk

[shell mason]

Well yeah "Paradise" usually drips with excess

[opaque coyote]

Basically y'know how it sucks to actually work in tourist cities

imagine that but x1000

[shell mason]

Yeah, that's why I never want to live there

hence forth Tourist cities

it's over saturated with dumbasses and stereotypes

like Miami

[opaque coyote]

It's a repeated joke

Like most fandom jokes

But essentially

"If I ever get isekai'd in Warhammer, I'm straight up consuming some lead"

[shell mason]

I couldn't man

Best I could pray for is being born on a death world like krieg where my life already doesn't have meaning

at that point it's just time

[tough haven]

Best I could hope for is being an Ork

Or be a gue’vesa in the farsight enclaves

[shell mason]

Being a fucking mushroom would be so goddamn cool

[winter vessel]

I’d like to be a Rogue Trader. Or maybe a Gue’vesa as well in the Farsight enclaves

[shell mason]

fr?

[opaque coyote]

I mean God forbid if I was isekai'd as a Psyker

I probably wouldn't cause y'know

My soul would get eaten

Probably suffer what feels like thousands of years of pain before disappearing

Actually if you're born a Psyker would turning to Chaos be better

Like you're fucked if you die anyways

Might as well try to get some power out of it

Since being eaten by a bunch of Daemons or by a Chaos God doesn't really matter

You're going to suffer anyways

The Eldar cry at being eaten by Slaanesh, A GOD THAT THEY MADE.

While Psyker humans just get eaten by Daemons regardless

Truly proving that Eldar are whiney bitches

[shell mason]

If anything go to the Astartes 3d video for more what a rebel/chaos psyker would be like

Eldars just can't cope with their fuck up

[arctic talon]

Tbf it’s not the craftworlders fault

The drukhari on the otherhand

[shell mason]

I mean if you became a psyker worse case you literally become a battery for a few seconds or minutes which would feel like a eternity

[arctic talon]

Have it coming

[shell mason]

Aye new day

[opaque coyote]

They were the ones that literally tried to tell them to stop tbf

[arctic talon]

They did try to stop it

[shell mason]

Cope harder

[arctic talon]

It just didn’t work lol

[arctic talon]

Smh

[shell mason]

what?

[arctic talon]

Realistically being torn apart in the warp sucks

[shell mason]

too little too fucking late

[arctic talon]

But you could do worse

[arctic talon]

Not really?

[shell mason]

.

[arctic talon]

They literally were trying to get them to stop early on lol

[shell mason]

point still stands

[arctic talon]

This isn’t a last minute thing

That they did

That point doesn’t work though

If you want to make a point you should mention how the craftworlders didn’t try violence

To solve it lol

[shell mason]

listen I haven't slept in a bit due to adhd

[arctic talon]

Especially the Khaine worshippers

They absolutely should have started murdering tbh

Like

One of the relics for CWE is a sword some khainite used to stab slaanesh

Didn’t work mind you

But the swords a relic now lol

[shell mason]

ah

[arctic talon]

Idk i think the thing I blame the craftworlders for is running from their problem

Rather then trying to solve it with violence

[shell mason]

what was that grey knight that walk into slanni's realm?

[arctic talon]

Especially the proto aspect shrines

[arctic talon]

Draigo does it or are you talking about the silver knight

[shell mason]

he made to the throne room but got corrupted

[bold veldt]

thsts just “a grey knight”

or silver wtv

[arctic talon]

Yeah the silver knight is heavily implied to be a grey knight

Tbf

[bold veldt]

its not actually said that hes a grey knight tho

[arctic talon]

Powerful psyker, has a halberd

Resists temptation

It’s also a 40K original story

[bold veldt]

knowing gw it could be anything else

[arctic talon]

Idk

It’s likely a grey knight imo

It would sort of be a cop out not to be imo

[shell mason]

most likely

[bold veldt]

same opinion but, wouldnt be surprised if it was literally anything else

[arctic talon]

Either way they looked at slaanesh and fell to them

But they don’t leave the palace often

tbh it’s pretty interesting that you don’t die once you fall to slaanesh themselves in the palace

[shell mason]

what you think they doing?

[arctic talon]

Indulging in their desires I suppose

Whatever they are

[opaque coyote]

Tbh I just think it's some random perpetual that decided to try and kill Slaanesh

Ik there is

No evidence

[arctic talon]

The palace of slaanesh lore wise is like

[opaque coyote]

But I just think it's funny

[arctic talon]

Prolly one of the hardest chaos realms to enter directly

I think tzeentch’s is prolly harder

But slaanesh’s palace gets second place

[opaque coyote]

Tzeentch is both harder to get to

And harder to navigate

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

Except for that one girl

[arctic talon]

Only lord of changes

Can properly navigate it

[arctic talon]

Built better

[opaque coyote]

Honestly IK it's a wizard of Oz reference

But I like to think that the only reason why is because

She just wanted her dog

She didn't want infinite power

[queen laurel]

khorne's the easiest?

[opaque coyote]

Or absolute knowledge

Just her dog

[arctic talon]

Khorne and nurgle are prolly the easiest to enter

[opaque coyote]

And because of that, she managed to get it

[arctic talon]

Not sure which is easier

[opaque coyote]

The most straight forwArd

[shell mason]

yee

[winter vessel]

Slaanesh’s six circles of seduction is pretty gnarly

[shell mason]

oh definitely

[winter vessel]

I could probably get past the first circle, but the second circle I’m good as dead because I’m a sucker for tasty food

[wraith quartz]

clears throat

[winter vessel]

opens book

[wraith quartz]

🎵 "Dame da ne" 🎵

🎵"Dame yo"🎵

🎵"Dame na no yo"🎵

[crystal forum]

yup that's going on my kill list

[wraith quartz]

Now that I have you brief attention I have a quick question...

Should I get Fat Shark's other flagship game??

[arctic talon]

Vermintide 2?

I mean if you want to

[wraith quartz]

Note I play on xboox, and have a fucked work schedule

[arctic talon]

It’s much slower paced then Darktide imo

[wraith quartz]

No I mean Escape from Dead Island. Of course I meant The fantasy rat smacker simulator.

[arctic talon]

Go for it if you want

Imo it’s harder at higher levels

[wraith quartz]

Uh huh

I.y.o.o., what are the benefits/differences between the two?

[arctic talon]

Vermintide is way more melee focused

You’re slower in vermintide

Blocking is much stronger in vermintide

[dusk patrol]

Dodges and blocks are much different

It’s very common and easy enough to not get hit once a whole level in vermintide from melee

Or to strategically take damage to charge your ult

[wraith quartz]

So damage charges you ult?

[dusk patrol]

Darktide is a lot more based around taking some damage

[wraith quartz]

Or is it cd based?

[dusk patrol]

Both

[wraith quartz]

Oooh

[dusk patrol]

I dunno, I’d just play it

If you’ve played Darktide you can play VT2

[wraith quartz]

Understandable

[dusk patrol]

It’s a bit grindy with the level system and getting the right weapon

[shell mason]

yee

[wraith quartz]

So vermintide is a magical ratsmaker simulator??

[arctic talon]

Vermintide 2

Vermintide 1 is

Much more hardcore lol

[wraith quartz]

Ok, so what brought the rats to the realm??

[shell mason]

Their rats

they doing rat shit

[arctic talon]

There’s an origin myth involving a giant tower and bell

But skaven have existed

For a long time

[shell mason]

warhammer fantasty came before 40k

[wraith quartz]

Ok

[arctic talon]

Also this

Fantasy isn’t related to 40K beyond the chaos gods and daemons being the same

[wraith quartz]

Ik that, we had a discussion of this couple months ago

[winter vessel]

the story for this is pretty chilling

[shell mason]

yep

[wraith quartz]

Rephrasing my first question, why do we have a critical rat infestation?

[arctic talon]

Because

There’s a lot of them

And they hate humans

In fact they hate everything

And everyone

[wraith quartz]

That's an obvious assumption

[arctic talon]

But it’s during the endtimes

So the skaven are attacking Enmass

[winter vessel]

rats! we're rats! we're. the. rats!

[wraith quartz]

Ooooohhh

[arctic talon]

The ubersriek 5 are in the unfortunate situation

Of being in ubersriek

During the end times

Which leads to them ending up in the events of vermintide 2

[wraith quartz]

So chaos gods are in the process of Ctrl+Alt+dlte the fantasy copy

[arctic talon]

Yeah the chaos gods are ending the world

Or trying to

[wraith quartz]

Hmmm

I'm partially interested in it, cause a vs mode trailer

But what I saw, was that the beta is on PC

I'll about it, when I choose to be Ill fitted on how I spend my paycheck next week.

I'm gonna eat my late night sandwich

Byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeee

Also sidenote: dyk that Fat Shark had a hand on one of Deep Silver's franchise games??

[arctic talon]

I got no clue

[queen laurel]

yo wolf, in your opinion who has more character not including their battle prowess, Gordrakk The Fist of Gork or Grimgor

[arctic talon]

ngl Grimgor doesn't have as much character

but he's much more of a

KILL KILL KILL character

then Gordrakk

[queen laurel]

yeah he's very much just a natural disaster

[queen laurel]

yeah Gordrakk it's much more fun to watch in my opinion

[arctic talon]

like Grimgor is a natural disaster

his motivations are simple

Gordrakk I feel like I can have a conversation with

before he rips my head off

[celest dome]

No, not officially at least

[queen laurel]

yep

he is miles a head grimgor

in the can i have a conversation department

[opaque coyote]

Do you ever think that some Psyker just constantly pranks people

[dusk patrol]

There's definitely some who try to use it to cheat games and stuff.

But its worth noting psychic power untrained is super uncontrollable and volatile.

[opaque coyote]

Like imagine doing some paperwork only for you to suddenly get an image of

Idk insert horrific thing here

Into your brain

[dusk patrol]

And largely they have no idea what they're doing.

[opaque coyote]

I think most unsanctioned Psykers learn via trial and error

Which is

[dusk patrol]

Its why unsanctioned psykers are such a no no

[opaque coyote]

A very inefficient way of doing so

Cause y'know

Daemons

[dusk patrol]

Among other things

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact that Psyker Orks also literally explode other Ork's heads sometimes

[dusk patrol]

"I may have errored a bit more than I trialed"

[opaque coyote]

Why is there a human head that's sucking a hose

What's even the point of the head

[dusk patrol]

Just cause he's a corrupted fallen servant of the dark gods doesn't mean he can't have a sense of fashion.

[opaque coyote]

I'm guessing the Chaos Psyker is using it like

An extra battery or something

Judging by the nodes attached to it

Which implies that the head might still be alive

[opaque coyote]

Bro what the fuck

Dude looks like Megamind if he took meth

[dusk patrol]

This is why you always sanction your psykers kids.

[opaque coyote]

So basically

95% of unsanctioned psykers

Become daemon bait

[opaque coyote]

I love the detail of them having chains on them

Probably because they have

NO IDEA HOW TO FLOAT DOWN

They can fucking turn your brain into slurry

Or shooting lightning

But they don't know how to walk

[winter vessel]

boy's head built like a grape

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/violet-willy-wanka-gif-5139605

[opaque coyote]

The virgin Sanctioned Psyker

• uses lame spells

• eyes probably melted off due to corpse emperor

• cries at one voice in his head

[winter vessel]

this psyker be the kind of guy who says "I KNOW ALL OF ROBLOX LORE!"

[opaque coyote]

The Chad Chaotic Unsanctioned Psyker

• Uses whatever the fuck they want

• Brain so massive, it literally pounds against their skull

• daemons constantly clawing at their brain. Doesn't care.

[opaque coyote]

I mentioned this before

But it would be really funny if there was some Daemonhost that just

Spouted out random 40k facts

While attacking you

[celest dome]

Most just burn themselves out by going tofar. Not necessarily becoming possessed or something equal

[queen laurel]

to be fair how common is the warhammer incentive of magic if your bad will fuck you up

like is it like always constantly on or is it rarer than people make it out to be

[celest dome]

Well it's difficult to really say, as most of the 'magic'users we see are either fighter or adventurer

But Magic in warhammer (both/all 3 setting) are relatively more dangerous even on a more Mundane level

But if you know what you're doing and aren't over extending yourself its relatively safe.

Like don't go and use magic to teleport every where instead of walking or using a carriage, but it's possible to do so without extreme risl

[queen laurel]

aight that makes sense the ones that did a lot of practice is basically mostly safe

[celest dome]

Practice and using 'tried and tested' spells/techniques

It's why most Necromancers have some Grimoires from Nagash, or copies of those

Though there are rarer more developed Grims. Like the Lichmaster's

[opaque coyote]

There is an ancient text that advises users precisely on what to do

"just don't be bad lol"

[queen laurel]

i see

[celest dome]

I'm restarting to hate the forumites

[storm jungle]

Restarting?

Bro, you should never like them lol

[dusk patrol]

They follow the Codex Retartes. Strict adherents.

[storm jungle]

Im legit going insane

[scenic bolt]

WHICH PRIMARCHS WOULD HAVE READ WAR AND PEACE FOR CLASS AND WHICH PRIMARCHS WOULD HAVE USED SPARKNOTES

this is the greatest sin of HH

[celest dome]

But at some point I started to not hate them.

This make me hate them again

[storm jungle]

What in the goddamn

but also yeah never give your cognitive attention to anyone that uses the word "woke" lol

[queen laurel]

oh for fucks sake

[celest dome]

I'm all for saying that the female cosmetics don't look really great, but they should not be sexualised like that fan art someone did

[sour hornet]

deranged behavior

[storm jungle]

to be fair the female cosmetics are made to be unisex

which is a smart move tbh

[celest dome]

Yes, it's cheap and mostly work

But is also why I think that a Sister archetype which would have cosmetic made for their body type from base would be more able to have cosmetics that work well for their body

[storm jungle]

the problem is a Sister archetype would require a gender-locked role

its why i agree with people who say female zealots are basically just Sisters anyway minus being actually one. When you read a Sororitas book you'll pretty much instantly see they arent different from any zealot minus having more dicipline/rich gear and thats essentially it

[celest dome]

Gender locked archetype isn't really a problem tbh, as Ogryn already is an opposite case of gender locked archetype

And for the "Fem Zealot", there is enough for the archetype to be built up

[storm jungle]

Ogryn is a special case though

people will complain when a class with two genders is just relegated to one side getting cool stuff

[celest dome]

Oh for sure it wouldn't work for Zealot, both as branch or cosmetics. But by being a new unrelated archetype it wouldn't be under those problesm

[nocturne crest]

Huh. One of the traitor space wolves warbands got some more lore.

[rose thorn]

(Ignore the binging with babish)

[storm jungle]

"sponsored"

[rocky gale]

No I will not ignore the Chicken Parm

https://tenor.com/view/i-want-that-share-fomo-envy-jealousy-gif-3875661894362050372

[celest dome]

As if I'd ignore food

Love food

[green loom]

AI Generated

At least use real art

Like

I mean cmon

[rose thorn]

But like, the sisters still have boob armor I don’t understand their problem

[celest dome]

I showed them the last miniature they released for the Sister (the one with the awesome sword).
And he claimed its ugly and that it's no wonder

Aveline

[green loom]

Face isn't perfect victoria secret model

Not enough skin and lingerie

[misty vector]

Oooh that flamer + shield is cool though

[rocky gale]

Don't forget that she's also canonically a black woman in her artwork.

Like this model is peak Sororitas, it's perfect

It embodies everything a Sororitas centrepiece model should

It's perfect

[tough haven]

See like I don’t mind sisters of battle having the fuckin boob plate, cause it makes sense for their backstory and role. They exist through a loophole purely as a fuck you to a legal document, so their appearance has to really shout “this is a woman! We aren’t breaking the rules!”

[celest dome]

The thing is that even the SoB don't have things like what he complain they don't have anymore.

Like they do have boobplates, but it's not that bad

[tough haven]

Fr fr

Also just something I find funny is “woke” being equated to “hating women” cause you know everyone who’s “woke” is all about misogyny, just seems like you can’t have it both ways

People will say shit like this and even complain about female custodes

Like you literally cannot tell the difference wearing armor, and there’s no good reason for them to be gender locked

[hazy sluice]

What's an imperium

[fallen plaza]

Dunno

[hazy sluice]

It sounds like a made up word doesn't it?

[fallen plaza]

It is a legitimate word though

[hazy sluice]

All words are made up, come to think of it

[fallen plaza]

If i remember correctly a lot of terms used by scientists in the space field use words that are copied from sci fi stories at the time

[celest dome]

Pig Latin for Empire

[queen laurel]

in ancient rome it means absolute or kingly power

[hazy sluice]

Sauropods got their name loosely from Sauron from what I've heard. It wasn't coincidence

[celest dome]

Just checked and it seem to be the Sauroniop

Sauropod are the big necked dino

[crystal forum]

do you guys think SM2 will explode like helldivers

[fallen plaza]

There was a recent dinosaur named thanos

[gray umbra]

People will play thru the campaign and mess around with the multiplayer before dropping off i feell like

[hazy sluice]

I think it picked a bad time to release. Coming up right before a cod title

[spring cairn]

I don't think the playerbases will override that much

unless it does blow up with tiktok clips like helldiver did

[outer wave]

I hope they ragdoll similarly

[crystal forum]

on the plus side if cod bombs then that's better for SM2

[hazy sluice]

True

[queen laurel]

people still pick up that thing?

all i hear about cod is complaining complaining complaining

[hazy sluice]

Every year it seems to sell pretty well, even if everyone hates it.

[queen laurel]

as usual

[celest dome]

Maybe not quite as much but probably do quite well

[hazy sluice]

It's also gonna be on game pass this year, a lotta people are gonna get it because it'll be free

[queen laurel]

of course

[sour hornet]

Wait really???

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-2922587064166244739

[hazy sluice]

Yes. Bo6 confirmed on game pass currently

I'm getting off topic. So why is tzeentch blue?

[sour hornet]

well, I know what I'm going to be doing

is tzeentch blue?

or is that what our feeble minds process him as?

[hazy sluice]

Odd way of describing non colorblind people but I dig it 😂

[sour hornet]

lore fluff says he appears as random wacky shit w/ a variety of colors

[sour hornet]

I hope, I'll be cosplaying as my boys

they need a beak helmet

but half masks exist in the game already, so I can totally pull a bootleg kayvaan shrike cosplay

[celest dome]

Red went to Khorne cause blood is red
Green to Nurgle due to mold
Tzeentch and Slaanesh never had official explainaition

[hazy sluice]

Slaanesh is ourple

[arctic talon]

Get ready to pay like 15$ for a dlc with a beak

[sour hornet]

I literally have $15 dollars worth of microsoft points, so I can get it for free

[crystal forum]

dont worry i got the season pass

i can't wait for gravis gameplay

[arctic talon]

Do we even know how much the dlc costs for SM2?

[fallen plaza]

If anyone got lucky and got the pre order ultra special edition do tell and dilara will happily give you a role with kind words

[celest dome]

What if I told Dilara that you got it ?

[fallen plaza]

Then she will brand me with kind words like “admin” or “cool guy”

[rocky gale]

Who could even afford the super ultra pro order special edition

[fallen plaza]

Marine fans

[queen laurel]

space marine fans?

[winter vessel]

I’m just anticipating the Hellwhiners starting to complain about the game for every trivial thing, the same group of people who started getting on all fours and kissing SM2’s ass to spite HD2.

[spring cairn]

hmm i wonder if they were the same people who did this to darktide with hd2

https://tenor.com/view/what-confused-thinking-gif-20288609

[celest dome]

In part. But DT also had actual problems

[tough haven]

It’s getting better steadily

I think it’ll still be good

[small grail]

i need a adeptus sororita in my life bro

[rocky gale]

But does she need you?

[small grail]

fuck...

im gonna ingest 54 needle of stereroids

fuck it

[young pecan]

This could be a reach but I would guess Slaanesh is purple because purple is one of the typical colors of royalty, who usually love overindulging in many ways

[small grail]

imma devote myself to the emperor

[young pecan]

That's the only reason I could see

[small grail]

is that enough or must i do more

[small grail]

equivalent to those tall women tbh

just more manly to say the lis

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[small grail]

slaaneshi sisters tho

fuck... the emperor bouttta smite me...oh wait his disabled ass cant

[small grail]

just go with the flow brother

[young pecan]

There are websites for you to express this desire in private bro

[celest dome]

Might be. But I don't think they've officially revealed it

[outer wave]

Pink/purple is also typically a romantic color

Considering that the original purpose of Slaanesh was about sex, it makes sense

[fallow marten]

Purple is the color of excess

[young pecan]

Also true

Which makes it make more sense that they spam the sex part more than anything else

Still lame tho

[outer wave]

It is tbh

[winter vessel]

yeah, I've always associated it with a sense of high class, but beneath it there is a sense of debauchery. kinda like old aristocracies

[young pecan]

Or the way they used to call royalty... "healthy"

[storm jungle]

I mean look above, people do think with their cocks most of the time

[celest dome]

Hey Dil, I heard that Zimmer bought SM2 premium edition

So you can mock them

[small grail]

blud took it seriously

[small grail]

exactlyyyyyyyy

i dont get how tf slaneesh even came(no pun included) into existence like how was he sorry it made

[green loom]

Yeap

[young pecan]

There are enough people who warrant the discretion for me to

[paper stirrup]

is ultra the $250 one with the statue and book and shit

i got the $100 one bc i don't give a shit abt the physical stuff

if there was a version that came wiht jus the artbook i might've gotten that one

[paper stirrup]

purple is also associated with royalty and by proxy decadence

which is like slaanesh's whole thing other than Fucky Fucky

[fallen plaza]

@storm jungle

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-goofy-cat-silly-cat-sleepy-cat-bruh-cat-gif-8253677982411156146

gross

[paper stirrup]

when U think of like typical fantasy magic, what color u think of?

[hazy sluice]

Blue

[paper stirrup]

ding ding ding

thats why

[hazy sluice]

Are you sure?

Could be coincidence

[crystal forum]

my favorite colour is ionizing radiation

[arctic talon]

purple

[paper stirrup]

yeah, tzeentch is from the beginning of warhammer back in the 80s

[queen laurel]

one of the easiest ways of showing magic is good old-fashioned blue lightning

it's basically a running theme in fantasy

[paper stirrup]

they probably just thought "oh well magic is like, blue, so he's blue too"

[hazy sluice]

So....is he like a Smurf or something?

[paper stirrup]

blue is also a very uncommon color in nature so it can come across as "unnatural"

yeah tzeentch created smurfs

thats canon now

[arctic talon]

[small grail]

imagine a twoheaded smurf lord of change 💀

[paper stirrup]

hard af

[small grail]

Lord of Change Papa Smurf

[storm jungle]

this is my last two braincells talking to each other

[fallen plaza]

So true bestie

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

it's like watching two ork mad boyz talk about politics

[small grail]

exactly

[small grail]

howd u know

[paper stirrup]

you humiez ain't logikal thaz why youz don't undahstand uz

[small grail]

FOR DA BOYZZZZZZZ

[queen laurel]

i've seen too many

[small grail]

humiiez donnt get us @paper stirrup

[crystal forum]

watched pariah nexus

im a bitch i cried

curse you grimdark

[spring cairn]

u are weak

[crystal forum]

i know you're not supposed to take the grimdark stuff seriously but the whole redemption arc got me

also the ending god damnit

[crystal forum]

ok ferrus

https://youtu.be/wjOFb9v4x6U?si=wwYjkfxc4UNlNFAK

https://youtu.be/AFe0gdh7TA4?si=SCCAKlqpaLCxdoVS
found this while searching ferrus manus

[storm jungle]

I laughed when the child died tbh

average Imperium W

[crystal forum]

😭

[arctic talon]

GLORY TO THE IMPERIUM

[storm jungle]

[tough haven]

Completely unneeded child death

Imperium W

Why didn’t the child just instantly say, “Angel of death sent me here” or something that would differentiate them from the other mindless citizens, that the child literally knows about

[crystal forum]

because his whole family died and he's a literal child

[arctic talon]

^

He’s traumatized

[tough haven]

No excuse!

/j

“Why didn’t the fictional character make the most reasonable and rational decision that I, a third party looking in, would have done?”

[crystal forum]

the biggest dumb decision was the guardsman pleading for his life when he's about to get shot by the sniper necron

[tough haven]

Me when people are not rational beings, and rarely think of what there actions may bring

[tough haven]

Maybe he’s just asking big E

[queen laurel]

And that's the funny part is that them killing the children is the least worst thing they can do

Thank goodness they spared the bugger from suffering

[small grail]

how was slaneesh even made dude like how did he sorry it come(no pun included) in existence i dont get it

[wintry scarab]

How many inbuilt servitors are normally required for a giant ship to function? Like the mourningstar. Are there just racks of thousands of servitors throughout the ship that allow it to function?

[storm jungle]

We dont have an exact number

they just range in billions to thousands

and servitors dont allow a ship to function, they do menial tasks, actual machines/function related stuff is not usually manned by servitors

[paper haven]

Ferrus really was one of the worst primarchs

[celest dome]

And also interacting for Menial

[small grail]

did like one cave woman have sex witha cave man or smthin

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

servitors dont do everything

[paper haven]

What? No, a psychically sensative species engaged in species wide sensory overload so powerful it birthed a god

[storm jungle]

Slaanesh is more relegated to hellraiser stuff than sex yeah

Flesh tearing, mutilation, weird ass sacrifices, visual/auditory overstimulation etc

also known as read the lore

[paper haven]

Too easy. Better to go onto R/40klore and ask why things are things

[dusk patrol]

It took millions of years and the Eldar empire by the end had some wild shit happening, it wasn’t subtle to a lot that a bad thing was building up. There was little cults and doomcryers in the streets based off the one glimpse we get of it

[celest dome]

Also the matter that it's coalescence while often referred as its birth might just be a misnomer and internal interpretation

[storm jungle]

it was basically a massive psychic vortex explosion

[dusk patrol]

The age of strife was Slannesh building up

[storm jungle]

battlefleet gothic 2 shows it very well

[dusk patrol]

It ended when it was born

[small grail]

so basically lot of hot steamy sex

[storm jungle]

no

you fucking degenerate

[dusk patrol]

Please jump off a cliff

Not in a video game

Not metaphorical

[celest dome]

Get your head out of the gutter or so help me

[arctic talon]

Torture

Gluttony

[small grail]

hey hhey hey iim completely confused

[dusk patrol]

Uh huh

Doubt

[small grail]

one of my friendas messaged so i just aasked

[arctic talon]

Probably some sex but not the kind you would enjoy

[small grail]

im sorry

[dusk patrol]

Not sorry enough

[small grail]

what do u want me to doi

[dusk patrol]

But you will be

[storm jungle]

read

[celest dome]

We've gone from helpful to forceful

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[small grail]

i asked a friend the same question andf this was his answer im sorry

[paper stirrup]

i don't know how to read 💔

[dusk patrol]

Your friend will also suffer

[storm jungle]

your friend is stupid

[celest dome]

Skill issue

[small grail]

i see that now so how is this my fault

am i cleared?

[storm jungle]

It just is because im an evil discord mod

[paper haven]

Cleared? In this economy?

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

But no they did probably have sex and whatever but it’s just extreme stuff

[celest dome]

It's your job to find appropriate sources and fatcheck them

[small grail]

well i thought yall wud hjave ready answers rather than me goin down a rabbit hoe

[dusk patrol]

Lots of drugs, extreme torture, gluttony, murdering a lot of people for the thrill

Whatever

[small grail]

hole*

[storm jungle]

It usually begins with some sex for a few people but like, cultists get bored of it fast and get to peeling skins off each other etc.

Hellraiser was like the biggest inspiration in the faction's creation along with hedonism spawning from the 90's so its not too surprising.

[arctic talon]

For an example of the eldar empire

Look at drukhari haemonculi

[paper haven]

It was anything and everything involving every sensation. Spicy food, loud music, drugs, raves, gladitorial death matches, blinding lights.

[storm jungle]

its like how rich people IRL are into real sick shit when it comes to getting off. Some media doesnt even exaggerate it lol

[small grail]

but ill go down the rabbit hole i guess

thanks yal;l

[storm jungle]

when you are on the top of the world and bored you can kinda get to do whatever you want

well also being rich i guess lol

ISNT THAT RIGHT MR. SPACEY

[small grail]

im so cooked

[celest dome]

Something Something island
Something Something airplane

[paper stirrup]

55 days of sodom type shit

[paper haven]

Are we allowed to talk about Kevin Spacey?

[small grail]

i shud nottt have typed that answer

[storm jungle]

I mean without getting too much into the pedo subject sure

but again hedonistic people IRL are sick

[small grail]

for that im gonna swallow a bolter bullet

[storm jungle]

fiction just makes it a bit exaggerated

a bit

[paper haven]

Well sure but then. What else is there to talk about?

[storm jungle]

emphasis on that

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

That's pretty extreme, you're sure you're not a Slaaneshi cultist ?

[small grail]

defo not

i was influenced by one and i fucked up

[paper haven]

It's ok.

[small grail]

good thing i had the insults to save me

[paper haven]

(It's not ok.)

[small grail]

never was bro

atleast im not a supporter of konrad curze...those mfs are somthin else

[arctic talon]

He’s correct for skinning those jaywalkers alive

Smh

[dusk patrol]

The only extreme thing you’re gonna experience is the speed at which my foot turns your ass into giblets

[paper haven]

Somehow, Night Lords aren't slaaneshi aligned

[dusk patrol]

Some are

[paper haven]

I mean overall

[small grail]

not sayin that im just saying as a statement'

[dusk patrol]

NLs just don’t have one direct thing they align with

[small grail]

they are some scary mfs tho

[paper haven]

Except raptor cults

But raptor cults are real.

[small grail]

mhm

[paper haven]

weird.

[small grail]

konrad curze is one fubar individual

[dusk patrol]

They do a little raptoring

[small grail]

i never saw much about him only until now

[arctic talon]

raptor cults are great

[paper haven]

They engage in a little tomfoolery.

[arctic talon]

Such a weird and cool part of chaos

[small grail]

i saw a video by bricky explaining each chapter of space marines

[paper stirrup]

what's a raptor cult

do they worship dinosaurs

that's badass

[dusk patrol]

The bird

[small grail]

but why did he put like images when the 11th legion came uo

up*

[dusk patrol]

But they’re assault marines who are mutated

[paper haven]

You know chaos Raptors?

[paper stirrup]

uhhhhh

I think

[paper haven]

Those but a religion

[small grail]

whats wrong with the 11th legion i dont know

[paper haven]

It doesn't exist.

[small grail]

i hear people say theyre a wholed different level of fucked up

[paper stirrup]

oh them

[small grail]

really?

[paper haven]

Raptors look super cool.

[arctic talon]

2nd and 11th legion are struck from history

Roman history joke

[dusk patrol]

2 and 11th are the lost legions

We don’t know why

[small grail]

but what did they like do

[paper haven]

2nd legion and 11th legion have been erased from history. By the Emperor. Pre-heresy.

[paper stirrup]

no one knows

[dusk patrol]

And any question you have is going to be answered by that

We don’t know

Basically nothing at all

[small grail]

lotta people i see say they did some fucked up shit

[paper haven]

Nobody knows anything about them

[arctic talon]

We dunno

[dusk patrol]

Lotta people are stupid

[arctic talon]

And we never will know

[small grail]

maybe headcanons i guess

[arctic talon]

Because it’s meant to be a mystery

[paper stirrup]

the actual reason is probably so people can make their own homebrew legions and just assign them 2nd or 11th

[dusk patrol]

Anyone who claims to know is wrong

Maybe they did

Maybe they just all died

Maybe they failed

[small grail]

maybe headcanons

[dusk patrol]

We don’t know

[small grail]

ye

[dusk patrol]

It’s not

[small grail]

so what i understand is that 11th legion and 2nd are old like really old history?

[paper haven]

Could be any reason from genetic failure, like the geneseed was spoiled or poisoned to they just all died

[dusk patrol]

GW has clear ways they allow people to make up their own dudes in the setting and be lore friendly

The lost legions aren’t that

[paper haven]

All the way to they did a big whoops and the custodes cleaned house.

[small grail]

damn i wonder whhat they were

cudve been like tyberos not comparin i mean by like size

[arctic talon]

Tyberos is big but he’s not that big

[small grail]

this not far off

[dusk patrol]

We’re jsut

[small grail]

i mean for a space marine

[paper haven]

Thunder warrior lore is cool too

[dusk patrol]

Speed running everything today

[small grail]

i know he aint a fuckin dreadnought

[dusk patrol]

He’s a little above average

He’s not that big though

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[small grail]

anyone bigger than him?\

[dusk patrol]

He’s fairly average for “big marines”

[arctic talon]

I wonder if he’s like

Lanky

Under that armor

[dusk patrol]

Pollux is the obvious one

He was almost as tall as Guilliman

[small grail]

frickin shaquille o neal inthere

[arctic talon]

Pollux is fucking huge

[paper haven]

White scars are often described as wiry where other marines are described as bulky

[arctic talon]

It’s crazy tbh

[small grail]

oh yeaaa pollux

[paper haven]

Wasn't there also a loyalist World Eater who was really big?

[small grail]

what happened to pollux i doint hear about him a lot

[dusk patrol]

Also Haegr the Mountain

[dusk patrol]

Haar

He was previously a Thunder Warrior too it’s heavily implied

[paper haven]

Explains why he's so big.

[dusk patrol]

One of a few they tried to make into marines

[small grail]

alexis pollux is a menace dude

[paper haven]

Why didn't they try to just convert Thunder warriors into marines?

[celest dome]

Not worth the effort

[small grail]

cud they even do that?

[dusk patrol]

Fanart but it’s mostly accurate

[celest dome]

In theory, but why even do that when they can't be done into full SM. Same.thing with turning adults in SM

[paper haven]

It is definitely possible. Probably not cost efficient.

[small grail]

immovable warriors

[dusk patrol]

We don’t know but likely most couldn’t and it was hard and unreliable

Haar isn’t really the ideal marine

[paper haven]

Well.

He's a World Eater so

[dusk patrol]

Also largely they were broken down by then mostly

[small grail]

we onlly know that rogal dorn went down fighting and the others except the lion and guiliman just went poof

[dusk patrol]

Organs failing

[paper haven]

Pretty far from the shining boy scout example the Ultramarines set

[dusk patrol]

This was before those legions existed

Long before

[arctic talon]

Tbf he didn’t get the nails, he was just that way from the start

[dusk patrol]

They were just numbers then

Some acquired names eventually

[small grail]

rogal dorn lost a hand when he fought the world eaters right?

[dusk patrol]

We don’t know what happened there

[paper haven]

Jaghatai Khan is currently in Camoragh teaching the dark eldar the meaning of speed. Corvus is in the warp fucking with Lorgar, Russ is also in the Warp.

[dusk patrol]

Just that he went missing and no body was found, just his hand

Khan went into the Webway to go after Drukhari

Corax we don’t know

Russ we don’t know

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kinda creepy how all sorry most of the primarchs went poof

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Both went into the eye

Some implications are Corax still comes back to visit Deliverance

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Sanguinius is dead. Vulkan exploded(?)

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He obviously could do it without anyone knowing

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kinda feel bad we lost sanguinius

oh yea what about vulkan

i dont think they said mucch about him right?

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He dove into an Ork reactor during the War of the Beast

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He disappeared during WotB and seemed to “die”

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oh yeae hes fucked

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But that doesn’t mean much

He’s died before

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vulkys a perpetual

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doesnt brinmg much light yea

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Because. You know. Perpetual.

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he'll come back eventually

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mhm

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The important thing is basically all of them have a way to come back if GW wants and they’ve left the door open

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Even sanguinius?

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god u cud make a horror story with warhammer if u wanted to its so vast

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Even Ferrus has some stuff which implies he could maybe return somehow, and no I don’t mean legion of the damned

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I'm willing to bet the next primarch to come back is gonna be Russ bc of how much money gw will make off that mini

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dont know about that

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Oh right, Legion of the damned

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Russ is definitely coming back next for loyalists

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there is a whole horror line from the black library

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didnt his soul or something get destroyed when he died

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No

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it's very very hit or miss

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But either way I doubt they bring him back

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most of the books r pretty mid

king of pigs and the lotd ones were cool tho I like them

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I liked king of pigs

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something happened when he died right i aint talking about his marines loosin their shit but somethin did happen?

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Ferrus I’m more biased towards but the only thing I’d want is some kinda revenant warp figure

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aint half his sons cyborgs?

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Cyborg zombies

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They all fell into the black rage/red thirst for awhile

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They’re all cyborgs