#40k-lore-chat

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arctic talon
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Tekken is Hard

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It’s not the hardest

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And it doesn’t translate at all

amber night
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Whatever anyways , he put in hundreds of hours and tutorial

arctic talon
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To other fighting games

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Again

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You’re comparing apples to orangws

amber night
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Doubt with dedication

arctic talon
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Playing a 3d fighter doesn’t mean you’ll be good at 2d ones

amber night
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I am more referring to the effort

arctic talon
amber night
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He will be bad

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Dude hundreds of hour on single character

arctic talon
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Doesn’t matter if his fundies are bad

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Lol

amber night
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It’s quite bit of time

arctic talon
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No it’s not

amber night
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I doubt it

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Whatever , either ways doesn’t matter to me.

arctic talon
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Some people have tens of thousands because of how long running the series is

amber night
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Not gonna try both

arctic talon
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Your friend has skill issue

amber night
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Maybe

arctic talon
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But so does everyone

amber night
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Unless you solo him

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You don’t know that for sure

arctic talon
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Idk maybe I’ll run into him on ranked tower lol

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I’m stuck in the lower end of celestial anyways

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I’m not that good

spring cairn
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better than ltg

arctic talon
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True

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LTG is dogshit

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I’ve washed his ass across 3 different games

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10/10 tbh

spring cairn
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peak

arctic talon
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Hit him in SF5, 6 and Guilty Gear

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He got a round on me in 6 ranked though smh

spring cairn
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i swear there's like 5 different ppl in this server who have clips of them making him ragequit

arctic talon
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Because he’s easy as shit to make rage

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He gets upset so easily whenever he isn’t winning

spring cairn
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yeah but it's surprising you can run into him so easily

arctic talon
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And the more mistakes he makes the more angry he gets

arctic talon
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And he’s usually in populated like

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Ranks

opaque coyote
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By vgeclair

arctic talon
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Anything below purple in Tekken might as well be dogshit lol

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Which included me because I’m hard stuck red in that game

amber night
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Depends on the character

arctic talon
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It doesn’t

amber night
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Bruh

arctic talon
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You’re bad if your below purple

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Objectively

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You are bad at the game

amber night
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I am talking about his rank on different characters

arctic talon
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Well

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If he’s purple on one he’s decent

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It means he understands the game properly

amber night
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You are coming to conclusion bit fast

arctic talon
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No I’m not

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I think if someone tries to claim being red on X character = purple

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They’re deranged

amber night
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No

arctic talon
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The same applies to any fighting game below the top tiers

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Tier lists don’t matter

amber night
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I am talking about yon going to conclusion with my statement

arctic talon
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For the average player

amber night
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I guess

arctic talon
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They literally don’t

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The average player has terrible fundamentals

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A bot that exclusively mashed a single button literally got red rank in tekken 8

amber night
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I am saying I guess , I don’t know for sure

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You are taking this more seriously than I do

spring cairn
arctic talon
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True but it’s even worse for fighting games

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Because of the skill floor lol

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Iron street fighter players KEKsplode

spring cairn
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I got 1k hours in a melee slasher ik what the abyss looks like

viral halo
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Sf6 is the lowest skilled Sf yet

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Game sucks

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MK one also sucks compared to 11

amber night
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For tekken , I do know this . Tier list exists for a reason . Is true that if you put in enough efforts and you are good . You can do better any rank . In terms of how easy and effective your time to outcome, such thing exists

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There is frame advantage and combo difficulty . Like even the best player in the world have a tier list. Not saying it dictates everything, but it does exists

dusk patrol
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Ok but guys I’m a dad who can only play like an hour a week, I don’t really like having to learn all these complex buttons and combos for my game when I get on Friday night after my wife and kids are asleep for a half hour before I fall asleep too.

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So actually it being basic is good

amber night
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Maybe not to the degree that everyone complains but it exists

dusk patrol
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Also I love pulse rifles in Destiny

amber night
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Isn’t destiny its pv e ?

amber night
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Shit

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I shudder for the future

viral halo
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Eternal is not a father

amber night
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Also I grow up with league of legends

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I know hours don’t directly translate to ranks

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So don’t go about telling me thousands of hours don’t come for a lot . I know

dusk patrol
amber night
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But with a good player with dedication and time and instinct. He is gonna be good. Not saying skills in different just translates

dusk patrol
amber night
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Damn

dusk patrol
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Also I’m not being serious with the above it’s a joke on dad gamers

amber night
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Oh

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A dad hang around in discord

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I would hope not

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I am kidding of course

opaque coyote
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Art by a20t43c

"THE HIVEMIND DEMANDS MORE OF THE ZAZA"

Since Genestealers were originally based off of crime families, imagine a dysfunctional Genestealer cult more focused on crime than their mission.

It would be kinda funny

amber night
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Umm

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That women do be looking KINDA…..

dusk patrol
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Yeah that artist always does that

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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Pretty sure they have a NSFW Patreon

opaque coyote
amber night
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Lots of heresy about to be committed

opaque coyote
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Like literally, some Genestealer cultists work in brothels

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Mainly to gain more members

amber night
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Damn

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That makes senses tho

celest dome
amber night
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Money , fame , power, sex , bodily sensation

opaque coyote
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In fact sometimes Guardsmen are usually disallowed to go to brothels for that reason, if there's a Genestealer presence

amber night
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Can’t go wrong with those

snow fern
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Yah like, Leo, Nago and Sol are all base game, dlc characters are good but not the best

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I wanna play some more Xrd too, Raven is fun

amber night
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Is mk1 really that bad ?

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I just bought the game

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I saw YouTube video shitting on it and stuff

viral halo
outer wave
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Is Ferra/Torr in the game yet?

viral halo
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forgot they even existed

wintry scarab
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Have we seen the new 40k amzaon animation?

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Looks pretty cool

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it is space marines tho

outer wave
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Expected

wintry scarab
paper haven
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Is that a Tau?

opaque coyote
dusk patrol
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I like their art style a lot

opaque coyote
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Also the emperor approves tattoo

paper haven
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Heh. Cat girls are canon

dusk patrol
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Like it’s gorgeous animation

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Blur so it’s not surprising but damn

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All of those look sick though

wintry scarab
dusk patrol
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Yeah it’s really well done by how it looks

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The 40k stuff and everything else

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Hopefully it leads to more, I love all Blur stuff

wintry scarab
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Armored core as well. Very much hyped for this

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Looks insane

dusk patrol
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God of War and Cyberpunk too

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And a lot of others

storm jungle
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I saw Sifu, based

paper haven
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Sifu is pretty great though

storm jungle
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literally Anger Management: The Game

dusk patrol
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It’s Blur so idc if anyone even talks in any of the shorts

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And knowing them it’ll be the OG great voice actors anyways

paper haven
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The anger lady was my favorite boss

storm jungle
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these better all be fucking good

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also i cannot imagine the money these costs to make

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no wonder its Prime lol

green loom
paper haven
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I'd wager only about 25 percent is good

green loom
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The dawn of war cinematic was one of their first gaming projects

paper haven
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But what's good is really good.

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That's the GW secret formula. A dozen misses and a bullseye.

dusk patrol
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It was absurd

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Idk how long these are gonna be, but like say 15-20 minute episodes?

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Holy shit

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Love it though, no one better for this stuff

storm jungle
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Yeah its A LOT, especially considering the amount of work that goes into these, this was prob in production for literal years.

storm jungle
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animation is a rough business 💀

plush mason
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a 2min scene can take almost half a year to finish

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its insane

green loom
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We are SO BACK

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We have NEVER been SO BACK

plush mason
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huh?

spring cairn
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love death and robot was peak it will be good

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except the concord short

green loom
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Blur studios warhammer...

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The prophesized return

paper haven
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Love death and robots was great

green loom
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Oh

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Oh wait

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That's Titus

paper haven
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Bro's armor looks more Cerulean blaze than ultramarine blue there. What's that about?

rocky gale
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Why's he covered in coom?

green loom
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Tzaangor's

dusk patrol
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Me after I see the new Warhammer animation

dusk patrol
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Bros dragging that box like he can’t just pick it up smh

rose thorn
rocky gale
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Spoiler ||I'm in the box||

rose thorn
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oh i was confused about waht the hell secret level even was

opaque coyote
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Fun fact

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Apparently SM rations are so calorie dense, they're basically closer to Uranium than actual food

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In Magnus' Primarch book a human remembrancer is stuck in a crashed Astartes craft. She's there for long enough where she opens an Astartes emergency ration pack from boredom or hunger.

Magnus and his sons find her comatose, her body shutting down trying to process the rations. The food is made of future-nutrients so hyper-dense that send her into diabetic shock. Magnus has to psychically reach into her mind, tell it to vomit profusely, and start jump-starting her internal organs

outer wave
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Sounds like elven food from LoTR

hallow plover
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So it's mcdonalds?

dusk patrol
hallow plover
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The sheer number of calories in these thin ass burgers

dusk patrol
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There’s one where a apothecary gives a guardsmen a tiny bit because it would shock his organs as mentioned

arctic talon
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Wonder if licking it would kill you

wintry scarab
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Another quick spider update: I just walked into the kitchen only to see a spider scuttle across the frying pan. When i sprayed it it was so big that it made a audible thud when it fell off the pan onto the stove. All plans of making food have now gone out the window i am officially locked in my room.

opaque coyote
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Apparently baselines can actually eat a little bit

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But basically you have to nibble it

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Literally like this lmao

storm jungle
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seriously call an exterminator, the hell is this

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like them going around THAT freely and that frequently is very weird

plush mason
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they gona find a 15 foot long spider in the basement/crawlspace

arctic talon
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The “spider” from elden ring

plush mason
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at that point i would literally firebomb my own house

hallow plover
hallow plover
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Just a reminder that spiders are scuttling around you when you sleep

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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Yeah unless you are in Australia this isnt normal lol

green loom
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I had a whole spider colony right next to my head

opaque coyote
green loom
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I suspected it but only realized how bad it was after I moved my bed to clean like 3 days ago smilecat

opaque coyote
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Bro I would've set my bed on fire

green loom
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I got kinda tired of spiders randomly appearing infront of my at night

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And it was like

opaque coyote
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I would have committed the spider version of exterminatus

green loom
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"Oh wow that's just all cobwebs"

opaque coyote
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Just fucking set the cobwebs on fire

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And spray them with bug spray to both heighten the fire

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And kill any spiders

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Let the bodies burn

green loom
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Ye

storm jungle
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bro id burn my fucking house down jesus christ

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WHAT THE FUCK

green loom
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I also found parts of the wall that were like

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Dug up

storm jungle
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DUDE

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THE HELL DO YOU LIVE

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CITY 17???

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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LITERALLY ^

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fuck that shit

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giant spiders at least are just big monsters

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small numerous cunts are something else

opaque coyote
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Here is a funny comic as a distraction

rocky gale
wintry scarab
storm jungle
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again

opaque coyote
rocky gale
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Na they start to wander around when they're horny

storm jungle
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call an exterminator

opaque coyote
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Bitch what

storm jungle
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MATE SOMEWHERE ELSE

wintry scarab
rocky gale
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It's the truth

storm jungle
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Headcrabs are at least not too hard to deal with

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mostly

dusk patrol
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Pov: You’re @wintry scarab playing with your new friend after work

rocky gale
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They usually stick to hidden areas, but if you see them wandering in the open it's usually because they're looking for a mate

opaque coyote
rocky gale
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As I said this is normal for UK

opaque coyote
rocky gale
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They're pretty harmless

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Like we have no native lethal or dangerous spiders

storm jungle
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I DONT CARE

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IF THEY ARE HARMLESS

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STAY OUT OF MY FUCKING RADIUS

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im fascist against all spiders

rocky gale
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They're just big dopey guys

wintry scarab
storm jungle
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round them up

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kill them

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burn them

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gas them

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SHOOT THEM

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JUST GET THEM OUT OF MY ROOM

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AAAA-

rocky gale
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Yea it must be their mating season

wintry scarab
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I want my pappy and mommy 😭

rocky gale
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So they'll all be wandering about

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Looking to get laid

crystal forum
rocky gale
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Don't fuck the spiders

crystal forum
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a worthy sacrifice

rocky gale
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A big spider literally crawled along my desk as I was playing a round of Overwatch there, I just looked at it for a second and then it ran off

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It was a civil exchange

crystal forum
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i dont mess with spiders and they dont mess with me

storm jungle
crystal forum
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i let them live to eat the other creepy crawlies

rocky gale
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Yea like if it charged me I'd crush it into dust

storm jungle
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all spider sympathisers will be eliminated

rocky gale
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But so long as it recognises my superiority from a distance we have no issues

crystal forum
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spiders are friends dilara

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just imagine having a bunch of baby spiders in your hair

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how fun

rocky gale
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I had that happen once when I was a kid

crystal forum
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same

rocky gale
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Wasn't bad tbh

crystal forum
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i fucked around and found out what those web nuggets are

rocky gale
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and then once as a teen I got chewing gum stuck in my hair, like I was messing around and went "It's funny people are dumb enough to get this stuck in their hair" and then while saying it I tried to pretend to put it in my hair but instead just accidentally just put it in my hair

crystal forum
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larmoth origin story

rocky gale
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See it's fine for like a 7 year old to put their hand up and tell the teacher they got something stuck in their hair, but at 15 it's a whole other game

crystal forum
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i've done more embarrassing stuff at older ages

hallow plover
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I have fucking spider making webs between my work boots over one night

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Gotta enjoy my daily morning spider kill

wintry scarab
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I just went to look for the corpse. I cant see a corpse nor spider.

storm jungle
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💀

opaque coyote
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But please don't make a nest NEAR MY FUCKING BED

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AT LEAST DO IT IN A CORNER THAT I BARELY VISIT

opaque coyote
opaque coyote
hallow plover
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The spiders have declared war upon you

opaque coyote
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Mad Max Fury Road goes insane

opaque coyote
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The Psykers shriek and go insane over the arrival of the Great Devourer

dusk patrol
opaque coyote
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Also this scene is fucking nice

crystal forum
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large lad

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tanks are so big in 40k

storm jungle
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Tanks are also big IRL

crystal forum
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they're much smaller than you'd expect up close

storm jungle
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🫵

crystal forum
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form factor is a huge part of tank protection

crystal forum
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anyways i dont wanna nerd too much about that

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just, damn i thought the leman russ was big

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the land raider is massive

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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malcador is just there for size reference

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mind you i have no way of knowing if my leman russ is the right size

dusk patrol
crystal forum
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har har

dusk patrol
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Cause you know

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I banged your mom and big peener

crystal forum
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i decided to make the proteus explorator pattern because why tf would i make a normal ass raider

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with additional front turret for in case i want to use it

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i have the feeling that iron hands love putting every bell and whistle on their tanks

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search light, hunter killer missile

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at least my detachment does

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and the shittiest possible magnetic conversion in case i want to use this hatch in the future

dusk patrol
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If it’s a vehicle they had/have it and like to deck it out

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Proteus is a really cool one

crystal forum
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i wonder how it would look if i leave it partially open and have a marine shooting out of it with a bolt pistol

dusk patrol
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I love Land Raiders in general

crystal forum
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yes they are cool

crystal forum
dusk patrol
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They have some more ornate designs on some stuff

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Generally with a simple color scheme but they can get a little detailed

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Or they don’t

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The clans varied a lot

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And still do

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Some like Morragul were a bit more vicious and liked to hang some trophies or what not.

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They were basically the rejects of the legion who were given to Morragul and Mor to do with what he wanted, often being the frontline of assaults

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Also after Istvaan V and the merging of the Shattered Legions for a lot of groups they adopted eachothers customs and tactics a bit

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So basically, whatever lore you want for them

opaque coyote
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Also fun fact

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Clodde from 'Dredge Runners' became smarter (somehow) after getting shot through the head by a sniper. Some strange implications. As if they were not naturally dumb, but their intelligence is instead supressed or something.

Ganger 1: "Hey there big fella. We're on our own. Just like we promised.

Ogryn: "..."

Ganger 2: "I don't think he can hear ya'."

Ogryn: "I can hear you. I'm just trying to comprehend the transcendent nature of silence. Have a listen... don't get much of that in the Dredge, eh?"

Ganger 1: "Uh, whatever you say, now..."

Ogryn: "I feel elevated to a state above the ceaseless cacophony of ego and emotion. A state in which I can truly grasp all the I and I extension the galaxy are and shall ever be."

Ganger 1: "... I have no idea what you just said."

Ogryn: "Me neither. Who are you again?"

Ganger 1: "We are with the Underberg Carnivores? Here to purchase the... munitions."

Ogryn: "Oh, yeah, I got distracted by the universial potential for spiritual unity. Sorry."

[ Gangers try to screw him, claim they've put out a hit out on his partner ]

Ganger 1: "You look confused."

Ogryn: "I am merely trying to assess the situation. A mental carceration made all the more challenging by my genetic predisposition towards violence which is urging me to resolve the situation by pulling your arms and legs off. I do struggle with ambiguity. Trying to keep stuff simple, me. I have therefore decided that if I don't hear from my asscoiate within the next minute, then I'm gonna pick up this wheeler you drove in with and I will beat you both to death with it like I'm putting out a fire."

Ganger 1: "Ferdy. How is that last crate looking?"

Ganger 2: "Ah... there is a Ratling inside... aaand he's armed."

Ratling: "Name's Baggit."

Ogryn: "What are you doing in there?"

Ratling: "Wha- how many times did I explain the plan to you?"

tough haven
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which probably does raise intelligence to a point useful to the imperium and caps it there

crystal forum
# dusk patrol

as an explorator it plays more like a recon tank with small passenger space right?

opaque coyote
tough haven
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I love baggit and clodde

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I want more so bad

opaque coyote
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Although it makes me wonder if there's just like a planet filled with Ogyrns that are as smart as baselines. But they just pretend to be dumb

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Because they realize that if they actually act smart, the Imperium gets nervous

crystal forum
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land raider being a scout tank is quite funny for how utterly massive it is

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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i just wish i had more options than lascannons

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there's that batshit insane 40k one that has a combined 12 bolters

hallow plover
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And I just wish I had a lascannon option for my defiler

opaque coyote
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Imagine just having an Ogyrn speak intelligently the entire time

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"Gentlemen, I do believe we are in a predicament. There, we shall solve this by applying force towards their skulls, until they pop like a balloon."

dusk patrol
near ermine
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Lore gentlemen, I have a simple question; are psykers considered abhumans?

green loom
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Mutants more popularly, I think

arctic talon
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though they don't share the same properties as Abhumans

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since Abhumans can't reproduce with humans

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Psykers can reproduce with humans

opaque coyote
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The worst wide scale damage Grug the Ogyrn can do is smash a squad or two before someone takes them down with a lucky shot

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The worst wide scale damage a Psyker can do is pull some Legends Palpatine level bullshit where they can destroy entire hive cities in the blink of an eye

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Of course this (usually) requires some type of daemonic possesion

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Which Psykers can fall to at literally any time

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Of course the best way to prevent this is to simply not be an asshole, and give them some training. As not being an asshole prevents them from falling to Chaos out of sheer spite.

But this is Warhammer 40k, so you might as well ask for a billion dollars to be added to your bank account without any consequences.

tough haven
pliant horizon
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Do genestealers know the tyranids are just gonna eat them

Or do they go through all that and end up looking like this at the end of the day

rocky gale
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They don't know

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They're promised "Ascension" and Utopia basically

pliant horizon
shell mason
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shout out to the felinids

normal light
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Where you fought with your 'angels' side by side

rocky gale
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Best case scenario you fall under the control of the Hivemind and aren't conscious to the fact you're being mind controlled to walk into a digestive pit

shell mason
rocky gale
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You're fully conscious while being torn limb from limb and devoured by ripper swarms

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Feeling the acid sting on your flesh and the teeth ripping through muscle and tendon

pliant horizon
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You’re telling me this guy isn’t trustworthy? But he’s such a cutie patootie

rocky gale
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Plus like it's not really a betrayal in the sense that the Hivemind also does that to the Tyranids

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All the extra Gaunts it doesn't need anymore after conquering a planet are commanded into the reclamation pits

pliant horizon
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At least gaunts are just silly lil guys who don’t think that much lmao

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Besides

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They just get turned into more gaunts later lol

rocky gale
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Well their goo does

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Just as the Genestealer cults goo goes on to make other things

young pecan
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I love goop Steamhappy

shell mason
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do it pussy

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no balls

pliant horizon
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Ok uwugryn chadgryn

shell mason
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I'll be blunt

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the fact theres very little dt memes is very concerning

fallen plaza
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I'd argue the opposite is a good thing

shell mason
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why is that?

snow fern
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That’s like, the one I got

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That’s about it

fallen plaza
opaque coyote
# snow fern

I have much more Diamantine than I do plasteel

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And I wish I could transfer Diamantine to Plasteel

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And vice versa

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Please it would be useful

tough haven
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Or just have a real use for diamantine

opaque coyote
tough haven
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It’s an issue with “rare” collectibles, because they’re rarer, they have fewer uses, which leads to far more of the rare resource than the common

outer wave
# snow fern

Honestly I think you should move that hand closer to the right, since Morrow's arm is still shown to be obviously going down with no forearm

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My only critique

snow fern
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not my meme tbf

outer wave
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Ah

crystal forum
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@dusk patrol what's the mythology inspiration for iron hands

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i see some norse words here and there

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and of course gorgons and medusas are greek

dusk patrol
crystal forum
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weird

dusk patrol
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It’s very much a hodge podge

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Which is part of why I like it tbh

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It feels a little more unique

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Hard to pin down

crystal forum
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so anything goes with them mythology wise i guess

dusk patrol
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You can definitely draw influence from a lot of stuff

crystal forum
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their vibe is just "harsh"

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brutal, even

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Yeah

crystal forum
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nah i dont believe that

queen laurel
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hodge podge of stuff to make something cool

dusk patrol
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I tend to enjoy it more

crystal forum
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it depends on the stuff

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like ultramarines

dusk patrol
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Some stuff is more direct

crystal forum
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ROME ROME ROME ROME ROME

dusk patrol
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But GW likes to intentionally obfuscate it

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Which I think is smart

crystal forum
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i dont like the lack of clear culture in some chapters

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it feels less like lots of inspirations and more like lack of effort or creativity

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like wtf are imperial fists supposed to be

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btw did imperial guard used to use land raiders in older versions of 40k?

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i keep finding old pewter models painted as imperial guard

tough haven
#

It’s not even indicative of Norse society except in the basest of ways, and I will lament how much cooler space wolves and fenris could have been had they taken wider inspiration and shaped them to be less one note

queen laurel
tough haven
#

It’s so much more nuanced and multi layered than that, and you can still get to keep the Viking stereotype, cause they were real

dusk patrol
#

Mixed with Viking

tough haven
#

Like sure, keep the marines super bloodthirsty and violent, that’s just marines in general, it makes sense, but their founding culture could be more fleshed out

dusk patrol
#

But lots of German influence

#

One of my favorite IF art pieces.

fallen plaza
#

Rare photo of a cool imperial fist

#

If it weren't for his shoulder pad, I'd almost assume he was crimson fist

dusk patrol
#

This guy is another great model

fallen plaza
#

I'm not sure how I feel about the new cataphractii

#

Hopefully it's just an earlier variation

arctic talon
#

Bro was big + he wanted more protection + it was late heresy

fallen plaza
dusk patrol
#

He’s also a Captain and Lord Castellan, he can do what he wants with his modifications compared to more standard setups

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And he was explicitly a commander Dorn didn’t care for due to his more volatile nature

arctic talon
#

its his fault IF have no betchers gland

#

lol

#

at least its implied it is

dusk patrol
#

He was a Terran from the Unifiction era too

#

Basically a relic Dorn couldn’t get rid of so he stuck him on Cthonia

#

Likely hoping he would die

#

There’s a somewhat tragic side plot of his friendship with a Luna Wolves Chieftain he had formed during the Great Crusade which came to head on Cthonia, where the Chieftain tried to convert him against orders to the traitor side and chaos. Garrius refused and offered instead for the Chieftain to join him. When the Chieftain Kovarny finally agreed, Garrius instead used the distraction to evacuation facilities and prepare for the traitor assault more.

Eventually the Chieftain would find him and Garrius would admit they could never the brothers again and they fought with Garrius getting wounded bad but eventually managing to throw him off the wall they were on, killing him.

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It’s predictable but also kinda sad how much Kovarny obviously really wants to find a way to “save” Garrius and be brothers again only to be betrayed and die because he was foolish enough to think that was a choice at this stage.

fallen plaza
dusk patrol
#

It varied, there was definitely cultural classes but some Legions had better results

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The original Lord Commander of the Imperial Fists when Royal was found was put in charge of Inwit and its surrounding systems for example

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Shadrak Meduson and Amadeus DuCaine maintained their ranks and were in high esteem with Ferrus until he died.

#

DuCaine I think was the longest serving Lord Commander period

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Since he was the first they had from their founding on Terra and he never vacated it until his death at Istvaan V

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Sigismund also was First Captain, Kharn and Ahriman were similarly held in high esteem.

#

Kharn not being first but definitely Angron’s favorite

#

Garro despite what happens later was liked a lot by Mortarion.

fallen plaza
#

Then you get guys like the half heard kek

dusk patrol
#

It varied basically yeah

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Raven Guard had huge issues with theirs

#

Perturabo hated his original terrans

#

White Scars also had issues

fallen plaza
#

Yeah the terran RG were basically like blood angels

#

Just unstable and just overall not good

dusk patrol
#

Not quite as bad as the Revenant but very nasty

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Slavers, brutal

#

Completely antithetical to Corax’s deal

#

And Corax was found super later too

winter vessel
#

Mortarion had issues with his terran born Death Guard too right?

dusk patrol
#

The leader of the Terran RG were Lord Commander far longer than Corax was their primarch

dusk patrol
#

Garro was a exception generally speaking

#

The Barabans were super loyal to him

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And bought into his whole philosophy

fallen plaza
dusk patrol
#

Terrans less so

fallen plaza
dusk patrol
#

Yeah Garro was a real one

#

Ironically it often flipped that the Terran elements of traitor legions were more likely to stay loyal while the Terran elements of some loyalists were more likely to go traitor

fallen plaza
#

It helped that the chase scene was paced really well

winter vessel
#

Garro got stones to tell off Rogal Dorn when he was telling him the truth

dusk patrol
#

“You didn’t kill me with that punch so that means you know I’m right.”

dusk patrol
fallen plaza
wintry scarab
# dusk patrol

God, i still cant believe its blur. Im so hyped for this shit.

amber night
#

in a death battle, between total wulfen vs blood angels total succumbed to black rage and red thirst

#

who wins

wintry scarab
# dusk patrol

Also ive just now realized thats Titus. Thats kinda cool

dusk patrol
#

My theory is it’s his first missions back after becoming primaris

#

Before SM2

#

But it could be after

#

Since it releases in December

wintry scarab
dusk patrol
#

Might be a mix too

#

We’ll see how it goes

plush mason
#

the black rage just drives the blood angel insane, they arent enhanced in any way

dusk patrol
#

They are

#

It’s noted how it pushes they body to extremes, dangerous extremes for their health but it does make them more dangerous

#

Plus they don’t lose their combat ability

plush mason
#

hm so the question is which curse has a bigger enhancement

dusk patrol
#

Not gonna be a clear answer, gonna depend on the marine

#

They’re both definitely recklessly dangerous

plush mason
#

cant full wulfen like rip other marines in half with ease or something?

dusk patrol
#

BA under the affect of the rage do similarly wild things

#

There’s no clear barometer, it’s just both make them reckless monsters who are pushed beyond what they could normally do

#

Both are very difficult to control and use safely too

plush mason
#

arent full wulfen physically mutated though?

dusk patrol
#

Blood Angels also get pushed physically and eventually mutate from their curses

#

They were implied to be basically some kind of bio weapon legion which had a X factor for whatever reason

#

Basically I’m saying, it’s sorta a toss up and matters more the marine than the curse

plush mason
#

also, the black rage still lets them use guns lol

shadow plover
#

wulfen are ugly so they lose by default

dusk patrol
#

Technically Wulfen can too they just prefer not to

#

But yes Death Company does retain their skills

#

They’re just emboldened into melee and always in the delusion of being Sanguinius or someone at the siege

plush mason
#

this brings another question to mind, what kind of psykic abilities did Russ have?

dusk patrol
#

His howl fucked with psykers abilities

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

He also brought a frost with him everywhere he went

#

Especially in fights

queen laurel
#

and of course he's also followed by a blizzard

dusk patrol
#

Blizzards would start forming

queen laurel
#

jesus christ what did the other people have

#

the one that i can remember the top of my head was angron calming people

dusk patrol
#

Primarchs just kinda affected the environment

plush mason
#

^

shadow plover
#

I don't recall the blizzard summon being a thing

plush mason
#

every Primarch had/has strange psykic powers

dusk patrol
#

Dorn was able to stabilize reality when the Phalanx was being attacked by daemons and a warp rift basically

plush mason
#

most where inate and often times not even the Primarch knew about it iirc

dusk patrol
#

It’s not really one thing so much as they affect reality in strange ways

#

Khan could speed up to absurdly fast speeds

plush mason
#

like Sanguineous had this strange reality bending effect

dusk patrol
#

But he didn’t seem to be able to do this at will

queen laurel
plush mason
dusk patrol
#

More standard primarch stuff, inspired, had an aura of dread for the enemies he faced

#

We see multiple times primarchs causing fear in things which shouldn’t be able to feel it

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

They don’t have like power ranger powers

#

They have effects which manifest sometimes unconsciously often

#

Dorn didn’t consciously try to stabilize the phalanxe’s reality around him

#

He just did it

shadow plover
#

wat the dorn doin'

dusk patrol
plush mason
shadow plover
plush mason
#

the sword of dorn is just funny as hell to me

queen laurel
#

You said that the wolfman can consciously or unconsciously make a Blizzard and he can literally just howl

#

somehow funk with psychics

dusk patrol
#

It’s just stuff they do

#

A lot of it isn’t something they plan or even realize they can do

plush mason
#

it seems like the more stable the geneseed of a primarch the less strange powers they had, and the blueberries have the most stable geneseed

dusk patrol
#

The cold and blizzard thing following Russ around happens mostly when he’s in battle

#

Guilliman probably could do some of that stuff

#

It’s just not conscious mostly

#

Corax unlocked his potential after the siege as we see, somehow

#

Guilliman muses how he probably could but he doesn’t wanna open himself up to the warp and its effects

queen laurel
#

because like his brother is making blizzards and going super sonic

dusk patrol
#

He doesn’t like how being worshipped is affecting him whether he likes it or not

dusk patrol
plush mason
#

iirc Sanguineous' powers where foresight and the bending of reality that mainly only manifested to make his vision of his death by Horus' hands come true

dusk patrol
#

Also only he can use the Emperors sword like he does

#

It only works for him that we know of

#

Sanguinius’s most obvious power is his flight

#

He has an inner monologue about how his wings don’t make any sense physically for what he does

plush mason
#

that too

dusk patrol
#

Guillimans power is probably subconsciously his ability to read and adapt to situations

#

And form campaign plans

plush mason
#

somewhat similar to the Lion's

#

but for planning rather than combat

dusk patrol
#

Lion has stuff manifest in suddenly ways, he can both not be detected by Curzes precog when he’s hunting him

#

And he was able to fake out the precog in the middle of their fight

#

Basically sending Curze a false
vision of the future and then not doing it

shadow plover
#

because I can't recall any of this

dusk patrol
#

No

#

Dark Imperium

#

And uh Godblight

shadow plover
#

hm, must've just forgotten about it then

dusk patrol
#

It’s when he’s talking about godhood and stuff with the one Eldar guy

#

And after

#

He has an inner monologue about his own psychic ability and nature

shadow plover
#

it's been a while since I listened those

#

around the original release date

dusk patrol
#

It might be from other stuff too tbh

#

But either way his take is he doesn’t wanna be more affected by the warp

plush mason
#

to have have what is basically a minor warp god for a soul

dusk patrol
#

Yeah he doesn’t like the prospect of what quadrillions of people worshipping him now will mean for him

#

And how it’ll change him

plush mason
#

yeah i bet

dusk patrol
#

But yeah primarchs do wild stuff

#

Ferrus tanked super heavy and Titan weapons on Istvaan and walked out of the crater, Angron squatted a Titan

plush mason
#

they are as much warp beings as they are flesh and blood

dusk patrol
#

Ferrus made the cyborg monstrosity Lords of Gaardinal feel fear when he took them down personally despite the parts of their brain for fear being removed long ago

#

Same with Guilliman making the Gal Vorbak pause in fear and uncertainty when he charged them

#

They break some rules

plush mason
#

cant they make daemons feel true fear?

dusk patrol
#

Guilliman can at least

#

Because his sword gives them a true death

#

Fearing being actually unmade forever is a very unique experience for daemons

plush mason
#

the watchers in the dark make daemons feel it which is crazy to think about, the channgeling calls one an "unthing" and it backs off when coming near one

dusk patrol
#

Yeah they freak out daemons

#

And we don’t even know what they are really

plush mason
#

seems the watchers have no warp presence, hence the "unthing" quote from the changeling

#

just a void in the warp

dusk patrol
#

They do have a warp presence, it’s just anathema to daemons

#

They can counter chaos extremely effectively

#

And they hate it

plush mason
#

so the tldr is dont fuck with the forest jawa

dusk patrol
#

It’s known on the rock anyone who fucks around with them disappears

#

So they don’t

plush mason
#

are dark angel initiates trained on the rock?

dusk patrol
#

Generally it’s part of it yes

#

They take them from a variety of recruitment worlds and bring them there

plush mason
#

so its fully likely that the instructors are just like "ignore the little robed people if you know whats good for you"

dusk patrol
#

Basically

#

Everyone knows

dusk patrol
#

They’re common sights

sour hornet
#

He squatted WHAT

dusk patrol
#

And he held it up

#

Not very long and it was taxing but

sour hornet
#

these guys are legit demigods

plush mason
#

yes

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

plush mason
#

that is a core part of the Primarchs

#

each is a full on demigod in there own right

sour hornet
dusk patrol
#

It’s complicated

plush mason
#

he is a god and not a god, its strange

dusk patrol
#

Anyways I have to dip for now

sour hornet
#

Our rejects call him god-emperor though?

dusk patrol
#

But he wasn’t but now he kinda is

#

What makes a god isn’t super defined

#

It’s arguably subjective

spring cairn
#

he sure seems to be on his way to become one

sour hornet
plush mason
sour hornet
#

Cause he seems stronger back then than he is now.

dusk patrol
#

He was a powerful human and then overtime he look it’s a long story and it’s hard to explain

#

He wasn’t

#

He’s stronger now than ever

plush mason
#

^

dusk patrol
#

But it’s complicated

sour hornet
#

I'm guessing more people believe he's a god, so he is?

plush mason
#

kinda?

#

its vague as hell like Eternal said

sour hornet
#

That sounds a lot like how chaos works.

plush mason
#

yeah that is the basics of it

#

hell human belief in the great good made a goddess of it

sour hornet
#

Great good?

#

Who believes in that? Xenos?

plush mason
#

the tau's driving belief. the greater good

sour hornet
#

Oh, I heard about those guys yesterday, they actually seem pretty good.

plush mason
#

they arent

sour hornet
#

Oh god damnit.

plush mason
#

they arent as evil as many of the other factions but everyone in 40k is evil

sour hornet
#

Can't have shit in this galaxy.

spring cairn
#

they're def the better of the worst i'd say

plush mason
#

yeah

queen laurel
#

the non farsight ain't as great

plush mason
#

no brainwasing ethereal cast in the farsight enclave

#

they still have their own problems though

#

possible khorne corruption being one of them afaik

sour hornet
#

I talked to some black templar players and bro

#

the amount of vitriol

plush mason
#

thats because they are black templar fans, they have a reputation in the community and not a good one

queen laurel
#

and also

#

the faction is as you can see not really serious

#

most people who pick orks are just like

plush mason
#

they canonically rate the other factions by how well of a fight they put up

queen laurel
#

are only their for the goofy aspects and cool stuff

plush mason
#

and the waterfall of dice in the shooting phase

#

which i assume is largely just a meme

#

like the guard player calling in an earthshaker from the other store down the street

tough haven
tough haven
#

Tau are always at the top, if you’re a human, I believe you’re chemically castrated so you can’t have children on your own

#

And various other things like that

sour hornet
tough haven
#

The non tau races in the collective are basically just used as tools

sour hornet
#

Holy dogshit that's rough

#

Okay

#

So what about the eldar? Are those guys okay

tough haven
#

I was just reading Broken Sword which is from the perspective of a gue’vesa (human turncoat for the tau) and it mentions him wanting to have kids, and other gue’vesa doing so

#

So maybe that was written prior to that, or maybe it’s only done in some septs? Or maybe they have kids via genetic engineering like the tau?

sour hornet
#

Traitor, but for a good(?) cause.

tough haven
#

It appears their quality of life is genuinely better

#

But at the end of the day, it’s just a pick your poison situation

#

They get real guns that can kill things, and armor that can conceivably stop a shot

hallow plover
#

Loyalty is it's own reward

tough haven
#

In exchange you effectively lose your autonomy and culture, and other rights most likely

#

But even in the book this character says it’s effectively choosing your jailor

sour hornet
#

Yeah that's it I'm becoming an eldar fan Sitgryn

tough haven
#

And that he didn’t really have a choice bc it was join or die

tough haven
#

One sec

sour hornet
#

Oh god

tough haven
#

So the eldar are…complicated

#

There’s a bunch of different groups with different beliefs and agendas

#

But most just want their race to not die

#

A specific group explicitly wants their race to die at a certain point after the boxes are checked

#

But the main three factions are craftworld Aeldari, exodites and drukhari

tough haven
sour hornet
tough haven
sour hornet
#

yeah people keep telling me they're great and I'm starting to believe them

tough haven
#

Also it’s kinda a democracy

sour hornet
#

joking

#

you gotta be joking

tough haven
#

I mean it’s ran by a council

#

Granted I think almost all of them are from the fire caste

sour hornet
#

A legitimate council?

tough haven
#

But yeah, they run it when farsight isn’t around, since even though he’s on the council, he kinda holds more weight since he started the whole thing and people respect him

#

Don’t know how you join them though, since they’re isolated and mostly just stick to their own turf

#

Cause they just wanna be left alone

#

They aren’t like actively seeking to have people join them like the tau empire

#

I don’t think

tough haven
#

I don’t know if or how new council members are elected though

sour hornet
#

I feel like an abuse victim getting into a healthy relationship for the first time

#

I keep waiting for the part where these guys mulch babies or something

tough haven
#

They don’t get lore as in detail though

#

I think the dark part is there’s probably not a great chance they’ll survive if found

#

They’re small

#

Like 5 worlds

sour hornet
#

Okay

#

Now I see the bad part

sour hornet
tough haven
#

Really, when?

#

I’ve never heard that dialogue

sour hornet
#

Multiple weapon cosmetics mention the original users going up against Aeldari.

tough haven
sour hornet
#

All five or so planets?

#

They that good?

tough haven
#

I mean, probably not, but I bet it’s better

tough haven
sour hornet
#

The what?

#

Wait, the mechancus? Aren't they less warcrimey than the Imperium?

paper haven
#

We still on Farsight and his doomed optimism?

shell mason
#

yes

fallen plaza
paper haven
#

The mechanics don't commit war crimes because crime implies a victim and living creatures are already victimized by their separation from the blessed machine.

#

Really, what you call a war crime, they see as "a merciful alternative"

sour hornet
#

Well I'm under the impression they're too busy molesting CAD machines and metal presses to warcrime at the Imperial level.

paper haven
#

Also that

storm jungle
# sour hornet So what about the eldar? Are those guys okay

Eldar pretty much just stay aboard their world/planetoid sized ships called craftworlds and dont bother anyone due to being in decline (aka dying race but not really because we cant remove a faction from the main game).

Minus like 1 militant craftworld Eldar dont actively wage wars of conquest or extermination on anyone unless they have to, otherwise they essentially live in basically paradise ships that provides them with anything they want due to being a post-scarcity society.

Their "evil" actions generally include anything that will protect their craftworlds from being destroyed like luring an ork fleet that was heading for them to a human world or killing some planetary governor out of nowhere before the Inquisition later realises the guy was a chaos cultist, they do random things for their own benefit but its hard to blame them when the reason they do it is semi-understandable compared to everyone else, if you fight them they'll just kill you/slice you up, its fast mostly and they dont take sadistic joy in the stuff they do. But this is Craftworld Eldar.

Dark Eldar are just dark elves, they stay in their pocket dimension in the webway within their endless dark city called Commorragh then go out to raid planets or do other cartoon villain stuff.

Exodites are wood elf Eldar who stay relegated to Maiden Worlds and never go beyond them or bother anyone unless they are outright attacked.

paper haven
#

Or messing with Necrons relics, I suppose

fallen plaza
#

Lot of words dila

storm jungle
#

shut the fuck up dipshit

#

lol

paper haven
#

Hot damn with the lore drop

storm jungle
fallen plaza
#

Just saying

paper haven
#

I was

fallen plaza
#

Words, a lot.

storm jungle
sour hornet
#

Question

#

Where is the webway?

storm jungle
#

Its another plain of reality

outer wave
#

In yo momma

tough haven
tough haven
storm jungle
#

basically just a dimension of tunnels and "roads" that span the entire galaxy filled with perils and danger

sour hornet
#

When you say pocket dimension, is it like a step above the warp? But above "our" reality?

storm jungle
#

in-between

#

it dips into both

storm jungle
#

but its much safer

#

literally just avoid the dangerous parts and its smooth sailing

#

sometimes literally with spaceships

#

Humans cant access it unless its brute forced (which is barely done unless you're a heretek) and only eldar utilize it essentially

sour hornet
#

Okay, so the craftword eldar legitimately seem like pretty good people.

storm jungle
#

They are good but it depends again

#

remember they look after their own first

#

this is like their only """evil""" aspect

sour hornet
#

From what you're telling me they commit bad acts sometimes to legit save their people.

tough haven
#

They use it so they don’t get soul munched by the daemons in the warp, since every eldar are super psychic and are very emotionally attuned, they’re like huge beacons for daemons

storm jungle
#

Everything craftworld eldar do is to defend their own yes

sour hornet
#

Instead of xenophobia

storm jungle
#

they DO have xenophobia

#

but its like the classic elf shit

tough haven
sour hornet
#

I mean

storm jungle
#

and they are literally genetically and bodily superior

tough haven
#

Except for biel tan

storm jungle
#

so its not unfounded

sour hornet
#

looking at the Imperium as a lore newbie, I fucking get it

tough haven
tough haven
#

Pronounced like monkey

#

With a little accent

sour hornet
#

if I was a space elf, I'd see them as primitive too

storm jungle
#

now you get it lol

crystal forum
storm jungle
#

basically being an Eldar is you sitting in your spaceship and a literal voidvessel of chimpanzees invade your home and start shooting up everyone, you can pretty much assume what you would do against them in that situation

#

Eldar literally need to wear psychic warmasks to make sure they dont get traumatized killing sapient beings.

crystal forum
#

calling humans monkeys because they didn't rip the galaxy apart by being turbo horny

storm jungle
sour hornet
#

What?

storm jungle
#

now the entire galaxy is torn apart

tough haven
#

“Awww too complicated for a simple mon-keigh?” -Yrliet the outcast

storm jungle
sour hornet
#

What did they do?

crystal forum
sour hornet
#

Is this different than the rip already in the galaxy?

#

The great rift?

crystal forum
#

eldar literally spawned a chaos god

tough haven
crystal forum
#

you can't get much worse tbh

tough haven
#

Different names

tough haven
storm jungle
# sour hornet What?

Basically Eldar are one of the "old races before the setting existed" trope alongside orks, they were the masters of the universe at one point and could essentially do anything.

And much like carefree societies IRL who got nothing better to do ala the medieval times (or any rich hedonist) they started doing debased acts which slowly gave gestation and birth to Slaanesh due to being an entirely psychic species which killed liked 90% of their race, the smart ones that werent total psychopaths fled on craftworlds as regufees, the ones that were fucked up and doing that stuff all majorily died, the ones that didnt hid in the webway and became the dark eldar.

crystal forum
#

they also ended the age of strife so you lose some you win some

storm jungle
#

The birth of Slaanesh also ironically-

#

yeah that

#

lol

tough haven
#

The craftworlders saw where they were going and were like “nah, fuck this”

storm jungle
#

it gave the Emperor the leeway to start the Great Crusade

#

due to this however Slaanesh has a first-grab deal on every single eldar soul no matter where or how. When you die as an eldar unless you have a soulstone you go straight to her gullet and get ripped apart for eternity.

#

they are a psychic species so slaanesh daemons find them the juiciest

crystal forum
#

which is kinda wild to me because they were doing super sex while the galaxy was exploding

storm jungle
#

Yeah

crystal forum
#

i guess eldar werent as affected as humans were during the age of strife

sour hornet
#

Holy shit okay

#

That tips them pretty far down

storm jungle
#

Kind of

crystal forum
#

yeah they suck

storm jungle
#

you need to remember its still other sentient species that doom the galaxy.

tough haven
#

The craft-worlders has to folllow a strict mental code to prevent that from happening again

storm jungle
#

and every eldar that made help Slaanesh is dead

sour hornet
#

big fucking oopsie on their part

tough haven
storm jungle
#

^

crystal forum
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they should have known tbh

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they knew all about warp stuff

outer wave
paper haven
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The Eldar had their time and they fucked it up.

tough haven
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Every thought and action echoes in the immaterium

storm jungle
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Now its our turn to fuck it up

gray umbra
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For da emprah

sour hornet
tough haven
paper haven
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Now is humanity's time to fuck it- damnit beat me to it

storm jungle
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and it wasnt ripping the galaxy apart

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Slaanesh's birth created the Eye of Terror

crystal forum
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humanity already shit the bed by the time slaanesh arrived

tough haven
storm jungle
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^

tough haven
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Also they feel all emotions way more

paper haven
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Yeah that giant warp storm what split the galaxy in two?
Blame that on the Eldar and Magnus the Red

tough haven
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So they really feel bad about it

crystal forum
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blame cadia

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always blame cadia

storm jungle
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which is by abaddon

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who are humans

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who become the way they are because 30k existed

paper haven
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Yeah, Magnus

storm jungle
crystal forum
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because cadia failed its one job

storm jungle
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Magnus had nothing to do with the Rift

sour hornet
storm jungle
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he jsut benefited from it

storm jungle
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also uh

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its a bit complicated and long

tough haven
gray umbra
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Dark eldar torture people to replenish their souls while slaanesh slowly devours it i think

tough haven
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And torture

paper haven
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No I mean him destroying the webway project, which is the only reason the giant warp rift even matters

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To humans. Sucks to suck, Tau

tough haven
shell mason
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Slannesh has claim on all Eldar souls

crystal forum
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current eldar are the space version of amish

storm jungle
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thats exodites

paper haven
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Dinosaur eldar

shell mason
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unless they have a souls stones

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or if you dark Eldar

crystal forum
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this is why it's acceptable to kill eldar

shell mason
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cloning tech

storm jungle
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cloning tech doesnt change it

sour hornet
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Wait dark eldar literally live off suffering?

storm jungle
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Yes

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they are edgy

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literally

sour hornet
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Like they'll die?

paper haven
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Eldar soul > Slaanesh

storm jungle
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Yes

shell mason
sour hornet
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Oh god

storm jungle
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they literally become husks if they dont torture people

shell mason
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yee

tough haven
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Also exodites live on one planet and return to a spirit collective tied to that planet

sour hornet
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How do the other eldar view them? Are they all enemies?

shell mason
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they also love it

paper haven
storm jungle
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but like i said, they can just join craftworlds and not be monsters, the issue is they just dont want to because hurting people is funny and feeds them.

crystal forum
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eldar current faction goal is to bitch about humanity and be annoying

storm jungle
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Non-dark eldar look down on them rightfully as monsters

tough haven
shell mason
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Dark Eldar are freaky freaky

storm jungle