i literally had a huge argument about beserk not too long ago lmao
#40k-lore-chat
rose thorn
dusk patrol
crystal forum
i just need to admit i'm nostalgia biased
dusk patrol
Me when I get you
gray umbra
What was the argument
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/head-slam-slam-head-into-table-benito-sagredo-guerra-dave...
Me seeing any grimdank user in this chat
gray umbra
I can guarantee you they all boil down to the same ones
rose thorn
What was the argument
alto of things, im not gonna mention
storm jungle
yeah uh
opaque coyote
Me seeing any grimdank user in this chat
hides behind a trench
opaque coyote
YOU WILL NEVER CATCH ME ALIVE
rose thorn
im gonna say it was really good until it became a weird fetish piece
gray umbra
My gf liked golden age
storm jungle
it gets too edgy for me in some parts
rose thorn
i loved the story of griffith and guts and cesca and their like
dusk patrol
Hey it’s hard to find good suffering porn ok
rose thorn
Rape as a backstory is usually an ick
yea i agree
i think cesca and griffith's made sense and was like
actually wirtten
arctic talon
Rape as a backstory is usually an ick
I think it’s fine if it’s actually written
rose thorn
but then after that it fell off pretty hard
rose thorn
also the 3d movies/show was raelly bad
gray umbra
Yes
dusk patrol
I like berserk but I can get if it’s not for everyone
gray umbra
After golden age it becomes revengeporn
rose thorn
argeed
gray umbra
Also horse penis
crystal forum
so true
gray umbra
Which is really weird even for me
rose thorn
introduce new young pretty girl
Intorduce villian
dusk patrol
Rape is a thing which happens irl, you just have to treat it with respect for what you’re writing if you want it to not become suffering porn
opaque coyote
After golden age it becomes revengeporn
It does actually progress into getting better. But yeah, Berserk isn't for everyone
gray umbra
I appreciate that guts learns to let go a little bit later
But the early parts are like
rose thorn
you can, just dont be weird about it
dusk patrol
It’s ridiculous to say people can’t write about rape
gray umbra
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
dusk patrol
They can and there’s tons of amazing stories which feature it
opaque coyote
It’s ridiculous to say people can’t write about rape
Yeah but it's also a hard subject to tackle
dusk patrol
It’s just something you have to do well
gray umbra
Agree
opaque coyote
You're gonna get torches and pitchforks near your house
gray umbra
Goblin slayer fans
gray umbra
People were like "u should watch this, its just like berserk"
opaque coyote
That’s just suffering and gore porn
Only the beginning tbh
gray umbra
I watched the first episode and im just like
crystal forum
It’s ridiculous to say people can’t write about rape
why take the risk is what im wondering
gray umbra
"Ok"
arctic talon
Only the beginning tbh
It’s def gore porn still later on
opaque coyote
Fair
dusk patrol
It’s the same as having a gratuitous torture scene or anything else awful. Or even just having drawn out sex scenes
dusk patrol
They should have a purpose
crystal forum
unless you have a very definitive artistic desire to use it
arctic talon
It’s gratuitous in violence
opaque coyote
It’s still very much suffering builds character
I do like some of the stuff it tries but
Yeah I can see why some don't like it
arctic talon
Of all varieties
dusk patrol
why take the risk is what im wondering
Because the author chose to and felt it added to the story, or they looking for shock value, idk
arctic talon
I actually like the story of it later on
But that doesn’t change my opinion
On it
opaque coyote
~~I actually like the story of it later on~~
Yeah same.
crystal forum
Because the author chose to and felt it added to the story, or they looking for ...
that's just gross to use it as a prop
arctic talon
It’s about an emotionally damaged person regaining their humanity
opaque coyote
Beginning
opaque coyote
Goblin Slayer Abridged is funny tho
dusk patrol
that's just gross to use it as a prop
Is it a prop when GRRM features it in his books? It depends on the kind of story you’re telling
crystal forum
Is it a prop when GRRM features it in his books? It depends on the kind of story...
you wont like my answer, i believe it is
i dont like GRRM
dusk patrol
It’s a thing which happens irl and the idea that you can ever use it is silly, it’s just something you need to be careful with or should probably
gray umbra
I think asoif is interesting
opaque coyote
Lore Chat is hot take central lmao
gray umbra
But is definitely a story about penises
dusk patrol
Then I disagreed then, idk. There’s way too much great literature which uses it for a purpose and it works.
opaque coyote
arctic talon
Goblin slayer is infinitely better when it isn’t just non stop gore and suffering porn
opaque coyote
But is definitely a story about penises
D i c k
gray umbra
Attack on titan was a wild ride
opaque coyote
Goblin slayer is infinitely better when it isn’t just non stop gore and sufferin...
True, the author did lessen it a lot for the later parts.
So maybe he is actually listening
arctic talon
Maybe he just got sick of it
gray umbra
Every dies
arctic talon
The ending fucking SUCKS
Thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sakes
gray umbra
The end
opaque coyote
Had to say it
dusk patrol
Especially if you’re trying to tell a somewhat realistic take on world, it’s a reality of the world. It’s only recently even we’ve even started punishing it for wars and stuff. And even then.
opaque coyote
Thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sakes
"I want her to think about me for 10 years at least!"
crystal forum
Then I disagreed then, idk. There’s way too much great literature which uses it ...
i find that gross. it's weird also to think of it as a valuable addition to a story. the last stephen king book i read has a r scene and i fucking hated it but i do give him some points for making it the grossest thing you will ever read and going into the details of the aftermath. still not something i personally approve though
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
i find that gross. it's weird also to think of it as a valuable addition to a st...
I dunno then, I disagree.
gray umbra
Its a trigger for some people
I dont like it as a prop but if it is used it has to be significant
arctic talon
I mean obviously it’s a trigger for some people
dusk patrol
Which is understandable, but so is a lot of things like torture and murder
There’s always going to be some things which people won’t be comfortable with and that’s ok
gray umbra
True
dusk patrol
Not everything has to cater to everyone.
In general I think describing a long sexual assault or anything like that is pretty distasteful unless there’s a very good reason for it, but I also don’t enjoy reading torture scenes or sex scenes either.
opaque coyote
Which is understandable, but so is a lot of things like torture and murder
I find it interesting how Japan and America have different priorities.
Basically Japan is less comfortable with Gore but more comfortable with sexual stuff.
I mean if you've watched one anime, you've probably already seen it.
But America is the opposite. Less comfortable with sexual, but more with VIOLENCE.
dusk patrol
They can definitely easily feel like the author getting off to them
opaque coyote
An example of this is Metal Gear Riding: Revengeance.
They had to censor the blood for Japan
crystal forum
i do hate when people use dark humor as an excuse to be edgy
opaque coyote
In Japan it's white just like MGS4. (Insert joke here)
But in America it's just red.
crystal forum
like no john you're not coping with abuse you're just trying to sound edgy
arctic talon
Bcs of the weird spines
opaque coyote
i do hate when people use dark humor as an excuse to be edgy
Dark humor has to have a punchline and a setup
Instead of just saying the NWORD
dusk patrol
I do think the whole “I cope with bad stuff with humor” is so cringe when people are making jokes about someone dying they don’t know
crystal forum
the internet is absolutely full of edgy humor
dusk patrol
It happens on Reddit a lot
Someone dies in a ridiculous way and everyone starts making jokes
“Oh it’s just how I cope”
Cope with what?
You have nothing invested here
opaque coyote
I do think the whole “I cope with bad stuff with humor” is so cringe when people...
Tbf I do make fun of my depression occasionally
But that's because I uh
Have it
dusk patrol
Tbh I don’t even mind that
Jsut like don’t make an excuse
You just wanna make edgy jokes
And that’s ok
arctic talon
Tbf I do make fun of my depression occasionally
But that's because I uh
Have ...
Enjoying those rising medication costs? So am I
dusk patrol
Just say that
crystal forum
you'll see this shit all the time on twitter the millisecond somebody famous dies
dusk patrol
Yeah
dusk patrol
The way people react to people dying online in recent years has
opaque coyote
The US healthcare system can drive off a bridge and into the firey pits of hell
dusk patrol
Really made me jaded
crystal forum
everybody has to always be super cynical
opaque coyote
The way people react to people dying online in recent years has
Ironically, I think Pyrocynical, the funny furry inflation YouTuber, said it best.
"You can't even die in peace in YouTube."
"You can't even die right"
crystal forum
like you're not norm macdonald shut the fuck up
dusk patrol
I’ll always respect Norm for sticking to his guns with never telling a soul about his cancer
Not even his family
Idk if that’s really a good choice but goddamn
That’s some conviction
opaque coyote
Also the fact that almost immediately after Etika died.
People started making "I CALLED EKITA AT 2 AM"
Literally RIGHT AFTER HE DIED BY SUICIDE.
They couldn't even wait a fucking week
Literally the day after
crystal forum
content creator parasites
arctic talon
What’s new
gray umbra
There was some chicago lawyer in 2005 who basically predicted the internet turning into a cesspool and he was pretty much spot on
opaque coyote
There was some chicago lawyer in 2005 who basically predicted the internet turn...
I miss the early 2010's intermet
Ok that sounds like I have rose tinted glasses
And yeah I definitely do
But for me it was like
The right amount of wild west
And established
gray umbra
Before people figured out the internet was the best gaslighting chamber ever
crystal forum
can you believe people actually thought having access to most information ever created would make people more informed instead of overloaded
opaque coyote
can you believe people actually thought having access to most information ever c...
And now it's both
crystal forum
turns out the whole time it wasn't a lack of access that was the problem, it's that untrained people can't tell the difference between real and fake
arctic talon
I love being asked insane shit
opaque coyote
turns out the whole time it wasn't a lack of access that was the problem, it's t...
Tbf even trained people can't tell occasionally
crystal forum
i'm not an iron hand with brain implants ok
not yet
you've got the chin of knowledge
arctic talon
Jokes aside the internet is a great tool
When it’s not being used by someone who just believe everything they read and see
arctic talon
I’m being wrong faster
crystal forum
perfect example of misinfo is believing that company is going somewhere
dusk patrol
I store all my ten terabytes of memes in my chin
gray umbra
I just want my early onset cyberpsychosis
gray umbra
Tru
crystal forum
you know you hit the jackpot when you start dissociating with reality when you're sober
gray umbra
Oh i do that at work
opaque coyote
Jokes aside the internet is a great tool
The internet reminds me of the Library of Ruinia
Essentially, if you don't know, it is a library that contains books with every word combination ever
Usually gibberish
But occasionally, it has an actual book
Like Monkeys' on a typewriter
Writing books forevermore
That is what the internet is
You can find what you want
But be careful on whether you find what you're looking for
Or gibberish
Either way, it is the biggest library
crystal forum
theoretically the library contains your date of birth and the exact way and date you will die
but this is philosophical bullshit which should be kicked in the shins
i hate having to think in a non constructive manner
plush mason
I find it interesting how Japan and America have different priorities.
Basicall...
literally do to the puritans lol
almost 300 years later and they still infect American culture
dusk patrol
I don’t think that’s a totally accurate take tbh, there’s reasons besides
It’s not like puritans were super cool with hyper violent stuff
dusk patrol
Well he’s basically your only option
I haven’t used him yet but I’ve heard people like him.
rocky gale
Master of the Shattered Leg
dusk patrol
At the least you can use him as a praetor proxy
crystal forum
me when i see the model price is 37.50 😃
dusk patrol
It do be that way
rocky gale
and FW resin
dusk patrol
I wanna use Haar as a praetor proxy personally
crystal forum
me when i realize it's in pounds and it's 72$ of my shitty currency 😭
rocky gale
Jesus
crystal forum
the average salary in the UK is 20k higher than the average salary in canada
that's how bad it is here
rocky gale
Well not my salary
dusk patrol
Just rob a syrup bank
hallow plover
that's how bad it is here
I share the pain
crystal forum
and the income taxes are probably higher too here 
dusk patrol
This is my favorite kitbash I’ve seen for him
I’d personally do without the comb
But it works imo
crystal forum
funny since the helmetless version is prob one of the only exposed heads i tolerate
hallow plover
Housing prices is also insane
dusk patrol
I like how grungy he made him look
crystal forum
i like how thicc HH astartes are
dusk patrol
He’s about the same size as the MkIII models too which is nice
Fits in well
Doesn’t stand out too much
dusk patrol
Yeah
crystal forum
also there's a typo
on the website
"reorganised survivors of Isstvan V into an effective guerrilla fighting force"
did he reorganize
or is it telling us to reorganize the survivors
also that's not how you spell reorganized
dusk patrol
"reorganised survivors of Isstvan V into an effective guerrilla fighting force"
He reorganized the disorganized elements
crystal forum
and it's not a proper sentence
i didnt have english classes and i know this
ok apparently reorganised is british
rocky gale
Reorganised is right
arctic talon
Mmmmmm resin
dusk patrol
It’s not but it is how the Brit’s spell it
crystal forum
no reorganized looks fancier
crystal forum
im sorry did you say ZED or ZEE
dusk patrol
Rumor has it they are
rocky gale
im sorry did you say ZED or ZEE
Gotta be honest, I can never remember
I think I say both
crystal forum
as a canadian i mix both
and i like saying colour because it looks funny
and armour
dusk patrol
ArmouBLEHr of contempt is right
Think of how much ink and time has been wasted
By those worthless U’s
rocky gale
Alooomnim
dusk patrol
young pecan
Reorganised is right
crystal forum
tyre is an abomination
petrol
mfer petrol means oil in french
like crude fucking oil
rocky gale
Petrol and diesel
rocky gale
It's technically still Petroleum, we just shorten it to petrol
crystal forum
yeah and pétrol means crude oil
dusk patrol
Disgusting
crystal forum
it's not crude oil you're putting in your car
rocky gale
I'll put you in my car
crystal forum
hell petroleum is crude oil
dusk patrol
rocky gale
Okay but the thing is Petroleum is crude oil for us and Petrol is it's refined product
crystal forum
no it isn't
rocky gale
Too bad
dusk patrol
You knew the one thing I do kinda like, even if it’s a huge waste of words for a faster one
They call sprinkles “hundreds and thousands”
rocky gale
That's an old thing
dusk patrol
Super wasteful word economy
snow fern
Can't you just call it gas or diesel like nothing else matters
rocky gale
Boomer thing
crystal forum
they call candy bonbons which COMES FROM FRENCH
dusk patrol
Can't you just call it gas or diesel like nothing else matters
No we must hate the British
rocky gale
they call candy bonbons which COMES FROM FRENCH
You're not going to believe this, but it's almost like England was conquered and ruled for hundreds of years by the French
young pecan
Okay but the thing is Petroleum is crude oil for us and Petrol is it's refined p...
They took my eum, can't have shit
crystal forum
You're not going to believe this, but it's almost like England was conquered and...
you have no fucking idea how mind shattering it is to have both languages stuck in your brain since birth
they are very different languages but GAAAAAAAH
hallow plover
Best of both worlds
rocky gale
I don't understand, I just had my language supressed and stolen from me instead
dusk patrol
They took my eum, can't have shit
“Oi, Yew got a loisense fer dat eum?”
young pecan
By the queen... 
crystal forum
the worst is when a word was taken from french like 500 years ago so has a completely different meaning in english
but they sound exactly the same
and there's so many of these
petrol like we just said
fuck even essence
it means gasoline in french
like???
crystal forum
no not the french just their clown language
rocky gale
So vanilla essence is vanilla petrol?
hallow plover
Vanilla gasoline
crystal forum
So vanilla essence is vanilla petrol?
it also means that definition too but it's mainly gasoline in common speak
which i guess gasoline is an essence of oil
there's also
i cant even say it
i got blocked
it means being late
and has no connection to mental faculties in french
rocky gale
I mean that's kinda different though
crystal forum
so it's common for early french english learners
when they want to say they're late
rocky gale
the medical term comes from the french term because it was seen as being like "Late to develop"
crystal forum
they say they're r*tarded
i have heard this more than once
the joys of being bilingual in bumfuck nowhere frenchland
viral halo
i got blocked
Best word ever
crystal forum
We do use it as an insult...
that's an anglicism
young pecan
This makes me wonder if ritardando (to slow down) in music terminology also comes from French
gray umbra
I imagine thats jay
hallow plover
It's still commonly spoken
hallow plover
Don't care about anglicisms
gray umbra
Oui oui
crystal forum
It's still commonly spoken
im trying to give them the idea that you will say it normally and not immediately think of the insult
crystal forum
like it's not normally associated unless you're an idiot or something
hallow plover
No that's france french
young pecan
NOPE, IT'S ITALIAN
dusk patrol
My favorite experience in Paris when I visited
young pecan
GOD BLESS ITALY 💪
dusk patrol
Was a older French dude actually laughed HONHONHONHONHONHON
I didn’t realize it was real
crystal forum
This makes me wonder if ritardando (to slow down) in music terminology also come...
probably latin
young pecan
probably latin
It's both
crystal forum
yup
winter vessel
https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-entrance-bomb-voyage-cocky-gif-11702027
Mr.Incredible: Bomb Voyage!
crystal forum
english and french just have a very special history even though they dont share a common root language
young pecan
Latin casually being the source of like 40 different languages
dusk patrol
Mr.Incredible: *Bomb Voyage!*
french noises
rocky gale
but yeah im not french
That's exactly what a French person would say
young pecan
but yeah im not french
dusk patrol
I don’t care how many crayons you have for tracing
I won’t be digging up graves for an art project
crystal forum
all the french colonies and belgium + switzerland crying rn
anyways my brain makes me very confusing to listen to for french speakers
like i once used the word delapidated in french
that is not a word
lapidé is a word
it means stoning
as in, throwing rocks
so you can lapidate something
but you cant delapidate
sorry dilapidate
i know this is riveting lore discussion
celest dome
Délapider is a word though.
Mean to spend money recklessly
crystal forum
it's dilapider
so spelt the exact same way
and yet
completely different word
so again not even close to what i intended which was a run down structure
celest dome
I'm too sleepy to do that.
crystal forum
wait it also meant squandering in english before
so it comes from latin
so what the fuck is it doing in english
i guess the correct way in french is délabré
which has no connection to dilapidate
people get degrees to study this stuff
insanity
crystal forum
word of the day: vociferation
a loud utterance, often in protest or opposition
crystal forum
lmao
crystal forum
i received forge world resin for the first time
what the fuck is this shit
it looks like shit
green loom
It's resin shit
crystal forum
a part broke off inside the package
young pecan
The machine spirits of that forge world clearly did not want you to have good resin
wraith quartz
Hey sidenote: when the Militarum plays "mix-n-match" between their regiments, which regiment has the "WORSE" coherency with other regiments?
young pecan
Kriegers are pretty stubborn in their ways so I think they would be up there in that way
young pecan
But they would still stick to duties
arctic talon
One regiment made up of nobles
crystal forum
thank god i didn't waste much money on an expensive resin piece
so apparently all forge world stuff is shit
alright guess i'll print then
young pecan
Krieg medics mercy-killing wounded people and harvesting their organs and such to use on people with better chances of survival while the other regiment looks on in horror:
tough haven
Hey sidenote: when the Militarum plays "mix-n-match" between their regiments, wh...
Catachan
crystal forum
and looking up threads on this i see people coping so hard about resin being for experts and shit
arctic talon
Forgeworld resin fucking blows
crystal forum
Resin is nice to work with
no they're literally saying that it's a skill issue that people dont want to glue and straighten shit that shouldn't be like that in the first place
arctic talon
I’m aware
tough haven
Or I’d say Cadians maybe because they’re so sure they’re the best soldiers
crystal forum
FW Resin is the fucking worst
hey it's just a 40$ mistake i'm good at least
arctic talon
Or I’d say Cadians maybe because they’re so sure they’re the best soldiers
This applies to all the major regiments
They all have big egos
wraith quartz
Yeah
arctic talon
idfk
rocky gale
This is normal for FW
young pecan
Cadians and Catachans would probably have such a horrible pissing contest
crystal forum
This is normal for FW
is it normal for the whole industry
tough haven
Cadians and Catachans would probably have such a horrible pissing contest
I kinda wanna see that
wraith quartz
So which regiment has the worst cohesion with CoC, that's not their own?
young pecan
Me too ngl
arctic talon
So which regiment has the worst cohesion with CoC, that's not their own?
CoC?
young pecan
Chain of command probably
tough haven
So which regiment has the worst cohesion with CoC, that's not their own?
Catachan
Commissars attached to them tend to have “accidents”
crystal forum
Forgeworld resin fucking blows
no wonder GW shutting them down they suck ass
tough haven
Like getting ambushed by ork snipers
young pecan
Commissars attached to them tend to have “accidents”
Based
arctic talon
Chain of Command
Catachan lol
crystal forum
Chain of Command
none. they all have good coc
you're all coping
catachans have excellent cohesion
arctic talon
Mf’er they kill comissars
crystal forum
they're super flexible
rocky gale
Reread Jay
arctic talon
And they don’t get along with other regiments
rocky gale
"Cohesion with CoC outside their own"
crystal forum
oh
rocky gale
So working with the Command of other regiments
crystal forum
krieg
tough haven
They actually used to have a rule in 3rd edition I think called like “sorry sir” where they had a chance to fucking kill commissars attached to them
crystal forum
krieg fucking suck to talk with
tough haven
They actually used to have a rule in 3rd edition I think called like “sorry sir”...
Might be wrong
arctic talon
They actually used to have a rule in 3rd edition I think called like “sorry sir”...
Yep
crystal forum
also cadians
arctic talon
You’re correct
crystal forum
even in 40k cadians are annoying
arctic talon
On a 1 they’d kill their comissar lol
crystal forum
to to other regiments
tough haven
Like why don’t we get fluff shit like that now
tough haven
Like why don’t we get fluff shit like that now
Like that’s genuinely cool as a rule
green loom
none. they all have good coc
I imagine they have good co-
arctic talon
Like why don’t we get fluff shit like that now
Because it fucking sucks to play
young pecan
"We're betterer 😠"
arctic talon
Like
You paid points
For the comissar
You roll like shit at the start of the game
You no longer get a comissar
?????
That’s not a fun fluff rule
crystal forum
but tbh they are the best the astra militarum can provide
arctic talon
That’s a dogshit fluff rule
wraith quartz
tough haven
I suppose they could just not allow commissars with catachan like ethereals with farsight
arctic talon
There’s a reason GW did away
wraith quartz
That's all for now
crystal forum
like most of the militarum is dog shit in comparison to cadians
arctic talon
With your army self immolating
tough haven
That’s not a fun fluff rule
I want fluff rules at all lol
young pecan
I think there's this cool regiment that's like specialized for cold as balls planets, and generally are high in willpower
arctic talon
I suppose they could just not allow commissars with catachan like ethereals with...
That would be much better
young pecan
I forgor what it's called
arctic talon
I want fluff rules at all lol
We literally had them in 9e
crystal forum
I think there's this cool regiment that's like specialized for cold as balls pla...
VALHALLANS
arctic talon
And we have some in 10e
tough haven
I think there's this cool regiment that's like specialized for cold as balls pla...
Valhallans?
Such as?
young pecan
Yeah I think so
fallen plaza
No
crystal forum
they have the best culture
fallen plaza
Vostroyana
crystal forum
fuck you
young pecan
What all do they do
arctic talon
Or is this about vallhallans
tough haven
Are you asking this of me?
Yeah
young pecan
But a lot less doomer culture, right?
young pecan
also they're inspired by soviets in WW2
I wanted to say this but wasn't sure if I was misremembering
crystal forum
and their planet never did anything wrong
crystal forum
actually they REALLY hate orks
dusk patrol
Valhallans or Vostrayans
tough haven
For 10e I’m assuming right
Yes
arctic talon
In which that case
crystal forum
their origin story is mostly fighting orks
so they're really good at it
they can out attrition orks
they're that based
crystal forum
no
not really
i think in the ciaphas cain books they kinda do?
but fuck how they're portrayed there
im SO tired of norse shit
young pecan
Less reasons for people to get dogwhistle tattoos anyway
arctic talon
Yes
Admech transports allow you to drop straight out of them while moving which is accurate to lore.
tough haven
Admech transports allow you to drop straight out of them while moving which is a...
Wait what? Do they have a rule for that?
arctic talon
Wait what? Do they have a rule for that?
You can drop stuff in movement phase yes
It’s still a bad unit
tough haven
The only rule I see is rerolling wounds on disembark
tough haven
You can drop stuff in movement phase yes
Theres another transport?
arctic talon
Yes
tough haven
Lol I forgot the planes even exist
wraith quartz
Actually one more thing....
arctic talon
Tbf
tough haven
0 oc is crazy
arctic talon
Aircraft make a coin flip
wraith quartz
Do jetpacks exist in 40k?
arctic talon
If they’re dogshit
arctic talon
Do jetpacks exist in 40k?
Yes
tough haven
With how expensive they all are
dusk patrol
Do jetpacks exist in 40k?
Yes
arctic talon
Tons of them
rocky gale
Aren't Valkyries like one of the good aircraft in 10th
dusk patrol
But they’re fairly rare for normies
tough haven
Do jetpacks exist in 40k?
In every space marine
rocky gale
It and the Drukhari Fighter
dusk patrol
Marines have their packs, sisters of battle have theirs
There’s also a lot of different ones in the 40k RPGs for normies
wraith quartz
In every space marine
What for regular humans?
tough haven
If you aren’t mainline imperium, no good planes
dusk patrol
Ad mech flyers
tough haven
What for regular humans?
They exist
arctic talon
It and the Drukhari Fighter
Valks, tau bomber, drukhari bomber ye
Grav chutes can be used as bad jet packs as well
rocky gale
What for regular humans?
crystal forum
those arent jetpacks reeee
rocky gale
You aren't a jetpack
crystal forum
arctic talon
They’re close enough we see some of the scions fly with them for short bits
wraith quartz
Cool
crystal forum
it's more like a drop pack
it slows down your descent
the astartes one actually lets you fly
dusk patrol
Grav chutes
rocky gale
You say that, but in the trailer they're using it to fly and zip around
dusk patrol
arctic talon
Where is the robots datasmith smh
crystal forum
god i hate those wings
dusk patrol
crystal forum
those jetpacks would look so cooler without the dumbass davinki shit
dusk patrol
rocky gale
Nuh uh, it's a warcrime to shoot paratroopers
rocky gale
Real life
crystal forum
since when
rocky gale
Since War Crimes have been a thing
You can't shoot them in the air
You have to let them land first
crystal forum
that only applies for people escaping from a plane
you can absolutely shoot paratroopers
rocky gale
Paratroopers typically do escape from a plane
crystal forum
you're fighting a losing battle here
you looked it up and you realized your mistake
now i will shoot you with my 4 autocannons
rocky gale
Not while I'm parachuting
crystal forum
castellan cox, what's our policy on war crimes in the militarum?
his response, only a laugh
dusk patrol
Gameplay aside I doubt the Hydra would actually be a good weapon to deal with seraphim and assault marines
crystal forum
okok hear me out
proximity triggered high explosive shells
if you think tank chat is boring
dont get me started on AA chat
the wonderful world of filling the air with as much metal as possible
crystal forum
no i will bore you
with anti air weaponry
also some dipshit made a video calling this thing the earlycon
it's oerlikon you fucking moron
dusk patrol
Same guy
crystal forum
iron hands represent
dusk patrol
no i will bore you
No I get it it’s just you know
dusk patrol
He uses real images of combat to make some of his art
dusk patrol
I know the Iron Hands one he used a lot of images from the Syrian civil war
dusk patrol
crystal forum
apparently i did recognize it
did you guys know that fully automated anti air weaponry has been available since the 90's
that shit always blows me away
arctic talon
I can belive it
dusk patrol
Doesn’t surprise me, considering what they shot down the SR Blackbird with
crystal forum
it's not very complicated machinery compared to modern systems but it's still amazing
crystal forum
Doesn’t surprise me, considering what they shot down the SR Blackbird with
you're mistaken my friend
not a single black bird has ever been shot down
dusk patrol
I’m thinking of a different spy plane then
dusk patrol
They were getting close though which is part of why we stopped using it
dusk patrol
Plus satellites obviously
dusk patrol
that a missile cant even reach it
They could now
crystal forum
oh right anti satellite missiles are a thing
dusk patrol
I know there was some close calls before they finally stopped using it
Same thing with spy planes in general
crystal forum
still it served a long time before they got anywhere close
dusk patrol
Yeah
crystal forum
it's such a cool plane
dusk patrol
It was a wild piece of engineering
crystal forum
fun fact the air force actually contemplated a combat version lmao
crystal forum
yep
air force contemplates many things so dont assume much
they have a lot of money to waste
dusk patrol
One primary issue was weapons which it wouldn’t slam into as it was going forward
arctic talon
Glory to lockheed martin
arctic talon
they have a lot of money to waste
honestly this is why cutting military spending budget really wouldn't hurt shit
crystal forum
on the plus side we can point and laugh at the billions of dollars wasted on bullshit
arctic talon
kek
dusk patrol
Its debatable, its expensive to maintain being on top
And it can shift very fast if you let it
arctic talon
I think there's a good bit you can shave off personally
dusk patrol
Probably
arctic talon
but I'm not a military expert lol
crystal forum
if i recall correctly most military spending is spent on salaries
dusk patrol
I also don’t think we’re ever gonna get an honest take on that
dusk patrol
if i recall correctly most military spending is spent on salaries
And medical and stuff like that yeah a lot of it’s that
arctic talon
if i recall correctly most military spending is spent on salaries
I have no clue tbh, but that doesn't sound too wrong
fallen plaza
Cut the budget on military ice cream machines
arctic talon
I'd have assumed the medical care would cost more potentially yeah
dusk patrol
General personnel maintenance and upkeep
crystal forum
when you have a lot of specialists and officers and just people in general and you need to attract them
it costs a ton of money
manpower isnt cheap
arctic talon
I wish bungie didn't obliterate the old Destiny lore stuff on their website
crystal forum
like here in canada the military salaries are not keeping up with inflation and it shows
arctic talon
manpower isnt cheap
yeah
crystal forum
being in the military is so not worth it here
i looked at the pays for similiar types of jobs that i have and it's pathetic
the US military needs to maintain its manpower so they need to keep up with inflation
dusk patrol
I wish bungie didn't obliterate the old Destiny lore stuff on their website
I wish bungie didn't obliterate the old Destiny lore stuff on their website
arctic talon
I wish bungie didn't obliterate ~~the old~~ Destiny ~~lore stuff on their websit...
"What the City wants us to do—what we want to do—it doesn't make any damned sense. That phrase 'tip of the spear' sounds good in speeches, but you know what happens to spear tips? They break. But that's what it takes. If the choice is between you or the Wall? You break." —Kabr
also real
fallen plaza
dusk patrol
I guess I should be happy I haven’t felt the desire to go back
crystal forum
im glad i never got into destiny so i can't be disappointed
dusk patrol
It’s a weird mix of love for it and also despising it
arctic talon
yeah
queen laurel
prolly for the best
destiny players and warframe players are definitely something
fallen plaza
crystal forum
me reading any book
arctic talon
destiny players and warframe players are definitely something
there's very heavy overlap between the two
lol
crystal forum
both are desperate for good content
crystal forum
oh i read titanfall for some reason
arctic talon
another 500,000 dollars to pete parsons luxury car collection
dusk patrol
That part at least makes me feel better about not getting into it
Whole company is falling apart
crystal forum
too big to fail
dusk patrol
Nah
crystal forum
they'll keep pumping out trash
dusk patrol
We’ll see but
They made good games
And good content
I expect that’ll stop
We’ll see though
crystal forum
and they keep buying failing companies
arctic talon
shame because I really like the lore of the universe
queen laurel
xbox then decided to shut down the studio of this game
arctic talon
oh well
dusk patrol
They’ve bled so much of their top talent
arctic talon
it was fun while it lasted
arctic talon
xbox then decided to shut down the studio of this game
at least the company got reaquired by a dif company
so Hi-fi Rush 2 is happening
crystal forum
so many good game devs being laid off
queen laurel
at least the company got reaquired by a dif company
at least it had something
crystal forum
this is the era of indie gaming
arctic talon
Where is my Armored core 6 sequal
fromsoft
I haven't gotten my Armored Core 6.5 yet
crystal forum
if only fatshark was indie 😔
queen laurel
if only fatshark was indie 😔
and what work longer on updates?
crystal forum
yes
but they wouldn't have to cater to a publisher
i still kinda dont get
why these companies need publishers
but im not in the industry so ofc there's a lot i dont know
crystal forum
do they need it?
crystal forum
like darktide did not need much advertisement
GW did a lot of the work there
plus fatshark had the success of vermintide 2 to ride off
fallen plaza
Wasn't it Tencent themselves that bought the company?
They probably didn't ask for funding and Tencent just approached them
dusk patrol
They got a big stake in them
arctic talon
Tencent is like
dusk patrol
Idk about bought completely though
arctic talon
Pretty hands off generally
arctic talon
Yeah tencent is primarily a holding company + gives funding
plush mason
why these companies need publishers
money, and venue reservation, publishers will have not only the money to help with marketing and development but also have the spots to market the game already reserved
outer wave
so Hi-fi Rush 2 is happening
Same devs?
arctic talon
Yep
outer wave
Ayyy
arctic talon
90% of the dev team got rehired
queen laurel
90% of the dev team got rehired
hopefully they will let them cook and not bother them again
plush mason
getting an advertisement license is expensive as hell afaik
crystal forum
ah
fallen plaza
Pretty hands off generally
I remember when it was announced
crystal forum
why go to a publisher and not like a bank
publishers will ask for changes and shit
plush mason
why go to a publisher and not like a bank
easier
crystal forum
ah
fallen plaza
I remember this one dude in another server was like, "guh I can't support FS no more because CCP"
arctic talon
Tencent ironically also hates the Chinese government
If anyone did like 5 seconds of research
crystal forum
most rich chinese businessmen do lol
plush mason
Tencent ironically also hates the Chinese government
with good reason, but sadly their hands could easily be tied
arctic talon
most rich chinese businessmen do lol
Glory to 中國
fallen plaza
What company doesnt hate there own goverment
arctic talon
A government controlled one
queen laurel
A government controlled one
north korea news moment
plush mason
when it comes to companies like Tencent and the CCP i do not doubt they dont want to work with the government, i do doubt they have the ability to actually say no
arctic talon
Yeah prolly
crystal forum
like a lot of chinese companies they probably get a ton of help from the government anyways
fallen plaza
I use to watch live North Korean television
arctic talon
Government subsidies moment
fallen plaza
There was a website for that
arctic talon
I use to watch live North Korean television
What’s on it
fallen plaza
It was kinda cool
arctic talon
Beyond news
fallen plaza
What’s on it
It was mostly really boring
fallen plaza
That
queen laurel
It was mostly really boring
bro the shows are scuff
fallen plaza
And really dry propaganda
queen laurel
It's straight up just propaganda 24/7
crystal forum
it's kinda insane thinking people live in literally 1984
arctic talon
That sounds about right
fallen plaza
It's not that hard to believe
crystal forum
for me it is
i cant imagine what it must be like
to have to fear every day of your life
fallen plaza
I mean a lot of people in the world still treat clean water as a Luxury
crystal forum
poverty is one thing
but actively being screened for thought crimes is like
beyond me
queen laurel
some places did not keep up with the times some did and surpassed the times that's the world we live in man
some have high crime some have low
What can you do
queen laurel
i can sing
then go to a homeless shelter and sing for the homeless so that you can at least ease their pain or something
queen laurel
guessed so
crystal forum
i do wanna help like that one day
fallen plaza
then go to a homeless shelter and sing for the homeless so that you can at least...
I would like to see a vid of that
I have a friend in Germany who helps immegrants integrate into the world
He is still kinda racist though
snow fern
so Hi-fi Rush 2 is happening
It iS!!!!!? Finally some good news, other than a total market crash of course.
fallen plaza
Not to the people he helps though
crystal forum
He is still kinda racist though
some people are weirdly racist
queen laurel
He is still kinda racist though
it's kinda you mean just like racial prejudice?
fallen plaza
some people are weirdly racist
He still calls me a jungle dweller
fallen plaza
Because it's there friends
plush mason
because they arent truely racist
crystal forum
He still calls me a jungle dweller
i dont know what this insinuates
queen laurel
Even if you aren't racist to some degree you are gonna have some racial prejudice
fallen plaza
i dont know what this insinuates
He just assumes I live in mud huts because I'm asian
outer wave
He just assumes I live in mud huts because I'm asian
Christ thats bad
crystal forum
like of all races too
fallen plaza
Christ thats bad
Nah he's cool
queen laurel
He just assumes I live in mud huts because I'm asian
i'm surprised he didn't hit you with the ching chong or something like bing chiling
outer wave
Nah he's cool
Im glad that he seems chill but bruh
queen laurel
being called a jungle dweller is rather tame
fallen plaza
Were still friends lol
crystal forum
rice lord
outer wave
Well I live in the rice fields so hes not far off lmao
outer wave
This is a joke
winter vessel
I do have some people confuse my ethnicity. and not once do they assume its Filipino whenever I tell em
queen laurel
i dont look like that shithead
well so long as you live i will because i do not care
crystal forum
why are half of you filipino
outer wave
why are half of you filipino
Because Filipinos are kinda based
crystal forum
are you also???
queen laurel
Because Filipinos are kinda based
they are also like the six racist country in the world
fallen plaza
Not really
crystal forum
what the fuck
outer wave
they are also like the six racist country in the world
True
outer wave
are you also???
Half
fallen plaza
I am also half
paper haven
Rice fields, motherfucker
young pecan
So are machine spirits real or does their realness fluctuate depending on presence of Mechanicus?
fallen plaza
So are machine spirits real or does their realness fluctuate depending on presen...
Depends
crystal forum
bruh this is an abnormal amount of philipino
winter vessel
why are half of you filipino
We filipinos got moms who harness the power of both Asian and Hispanic cultural mindset, they do twice as damage
outer wave
Yuh
winter vessel
and yet some B at work thought I was Kazhakstan
arctic talon
I just get the half chinese half japanese experience of being beaten with a belt by 2 dif sides of my families 
crystal forum
i dont know what i was saying
paper haven
I'm not filipino, don't worry.
arctic talon
So are machine spirits real or does their realness fluctuate depending on presen...
They;re not real for less complex devices
they're absolutely real
for more complex ones
outer wave
listen i might find filipinos cute af
I appreciate the compliment
winter vessel
I just get the half chinese half japanese experience of being beaten with a belt...
my parents didn't even use the standard loadout, it was with their BARE hand
queen laurel
I just get the half chinese half japanese experience of being beaten with a belt...
i'm gonna call you a Chipanse now
shell mason
alright
fallen plaza
listen i might find filipinos cute af
Most South East Asians look the same tbh, so finding an alternative is easy
shell mason
who did it?
crystal forum
I just get the half chinese half japanese experience of being beaten with a belt...
your school life must be terrible
arctic talon
i'm gonna call you a Chipanse now
guh
young pecan
They;re not real for less complex devices
What are the most basic machines that have spirits? I recall in the Mechanicus game that like every weapon has a spirit
arctic talon
What are the most basic machines that have spirits? I recall in the Mechanicus g...
Automatic doors
shell mason
Who introduced Hadron to fent?
fallen plaza
I just get the half chinese half japanese experience of being beaten with a belt...
Are you actually half Chinese half Japanese?
shell mason
Not even the clean shit
fallen plaza
Because that is actually insane
outer wave
Elite apparently is yes
arctic talon
Are you actually half Chinese half Japanese?
half taiwanse but yes
young pecan
Forming a homoerotic relationship with my power axe
shell mason
find god
queen laurel
half taiwanse but yes
don't say the joke don't say the joke
arctic talon
my parents fell in love in the USA
crystal forum
it's not that rare
young pecan
Have you ever been to Taiwan?
arctic talon
yes
crystal forum
i know a couple of chinese japanese
young pecan
I had a friend from there in high school and I think she went back