It’s likely only Grendyl himself can actually tell her what to do, and by extension Rannick and even then they’re probably not ordering her around.
#40k-lore-chat
dusk patrol
crystal forum
i bought the special edition krieg book and i'm prepared for disappointment
is it even a new book
dusk patrol
If it’s not the Vraks book
Then no
Krieg and Dead Men Walking are pretty old
DMW more so
crystal forum
are they ok
storm jungle
i bought the special edition krieg book and i'm prepared for disappointment
Krieg is a pretty boring book
even Korps fans have admitted it
dusk patrol
Dead Men Walking is better imo
crystal forum
better than bad at lesst
storm jungle
the flashbacks are like the only "ok" part and the flashforwards are very bad
dusk patrol
Krieg I didn’t love
crystal forum
i'm just getting it because might as well get one special guard book in my lifetime
storm jungle
Im being very generous
knowing you you'll either like it or hate it
lmao
Vraks though is just awful
paper haven
Never read Vraks.
storm jungle
it takes some actual talent to make one of the best conflicts in 40k a snoozefest
Lyons more or less like
condenses everything in the war
and skips everything cool about it
crystal forum
Vraks though is just awful
is it focused on the strategic level or is boring ass character stories
paper haven
All I know is Krieg larpers call it the best day ever and the alpha legion did some shenanigans.
storm jungle
Tyborc also gets recruited by Inquisitor Sextor Rex at the end which is pretty funny
crystal forum
literally the best part of the siege if vraks is how it details an entire militarum siege with every detail
arctic talon
Hector is my favorite OC
storm jungle
is it focused on the strategic level or is boring ass character stories
It literally covers nothing about the actual war, logistics, planning, the enemy POV, the overall effects of it, any other character etc, its just some Krieg characters and one boring priest lady
crystal forum
It literally covers nothing about the actual war, logistics, planning, the enemy...
for fuck's sake
storm jungle
Let me get my long ass review of it
crystal forum
when will guard writers learn that krieg fans are history nerds who love strategy
paper haven
dusk patrol
I don’t think Lyons wanted to write it tbf
paper haven
They play HOI4 for fun
dusk patrol
He wrote a bit about doing it and he didn’t seem enthused
storm jungle
^
I forgot the interview but like he very much seemed super uncaring
its not an excuse however lol
arctic talon
I’m sure it printed money
storm jungle
we get a book about Vraks after all these years and he fucks it up
crystal forum
at least it shuts up the fans
arctic talon
green loom
He wrote dead men walking so he has to write the rest is prolly the Geedubz ethos
And he went like
"oh shit, money"
dusk patrol
Why we can’t get a Pandorax style book on Vraks
storm jungle
Because we need more mcguffin hunting slop
where plot twist
everyone dies at the end
dusk patrol
Damn didn’t see that coming
rocky gale
Oh I just noticed it's the same author for both of the new Sororitas books
Jude Reid wrote both Daemonbreaker and the Vahl book
arctic talon
Ye
rocky gale
That's cool
dusk patrol
Not surprising, they try to keep the same authors for the same factions if they can
paper haven
Oh, he thought the guy cosplaying as a krieger was weird too. I like this guy.
dusk patrol
I like Vahl so I might check it out
Depends if the author makes her interesting though, and considering Vahl is like 22
Not a lot of interesting 22 year olds
But she does have a mech suit so that helps
storm jungle
Oh, he thought the guy cosplaying as a krieger was weird too. I like this guy.
Literally one of the weirdest parts of the book for me
dusk patrol
Statistically 22 year olds with mech suits are 14% more likely to be interesting
arctic talon
She explicitly got chosen because the ecclisarchy thought she’d be young and impressionable lol
plush mason
not every important character is like 800 something years old, just most of them lol
dusk patrol
It did not work out
crystal forum
eisenhorn straight up glosses past his 30's between the first and second chapter lol
arctic talon
They were incredibly incorrect lol
dusk patrol
not every important character is like 800 something years old, just most of them...
It is a plot point that her age is extremely unusual
arctic talon
And she has basically ignored the ecclisarchy
plush mason
They were incredibly incorrect lol
tbf isnt that like the norm for the ecclisarchy
arctic talon
Well
It’s backfired horribly for them politically
Their goal was to have an extra puppet on the high lords
dusk patrol
Coincidentally high lords body pillow merch saw record breaking sales shortly after her induction
arctic talon
Now they have someone who doesn’t give a shit about them + actively opposes them on some things lol
plush mason
i guess Vandire taught them nothing, which is to be expected
arctic talon
Coincidentally high lords body pillow merch saw record breaking sales shortly af...
Fadix prolly is hot 
crystal forum
the thing with 40k is the older somebody or something is, the more powerful they are. so you always end up with like chief inquisitor greyfuck who's 140 years old
rocky gale
Yea they wanted a puppet who'd stay on Terra and follow orders, instead they got a Joan of Arc who told them to fuck off and called a Crusade
arctic talon
If we ignore the part he could probably snap someone’s fucking spine instantly lol
crystal forum
Coincidentally high lords body pillow merch saw record breaking sales shortly af...
her haircut sucks
dusk patrol
SoB exist to keep the ecclissarchy in check which is why they try to have a sympathetic High Abbess
plush mason
the thing with 40k is the older somebody or something is, the more powerful they...
i hate the fact "greyfuck" is a totally possible name for an inquisitor
dusk patrol
her haircut sucks
I don’t think she’s really that concerned with her look
crystal forum
girl you need some eyeliner
arctic talon
Murder first beauty later
dusk patrol
Too busy slaying daemons and #slaying
Imagine being a timeless being from the dawn of time, neverborn, and you get your ass kicked by some 22 year old fanatic.
plush mason
the machine gun shield still gets me, like it looks so goofy yet its one of the most practical weapons i have seen in 40k
storm jungle
Vahl's mech is deffo better than the actual suits
they look like shit
lmao
prob because hers has actual drip
arctic talon
Vahl has the superior nundam
crystal forum
looks better than the grey knight baby carrier
storm jungle
looks better than the grey knight baby carrier
also true
dusk patrol
I don’t hate them but hers is definitely the best
storm jungle
Yeah the idea is just not executed well
dusk patrol
They need more bulk
plush mason
I don’t hate them but hers is definitely the best
where do her legs go?
dusk patrol
paper haven
Damn that was a long-ass review
crystal forum
i get it's part of the style but the lack of armour is 😤
arctic talon
It is shielded with a refractor field
dusk patrol
where do her legs go?
In the legs
storm jungle
Damn that was a long-ass review
He wrote it straight after we bitched about the book for an hour
arctic talon
And there’s a helmet option
shadow plover
the drape on top of the legs makes her one look better
storm jungle
half of his words are basically mine lmao
shadow plover
the smaller ones need one as well
paper haven
Yeah, that tracks
arctic talon
the drape on top of the legs makes her one look better
I see a lot of kitbashes with the drapes added tbh
storm jungle
Yeah, that tracks
arctic talon
They look much better
dusk patrol
Hers is just bigger
paper haven
At least it's well thought out.
dusk patrol
Has more bulk and all that
arctic talon
Yeah the arms being bulkier helps
storm jungle
At least it's well thought out.
He did apologise at several points for it basically turning into a rant post but i cant blame him
arctic talon
I think bulkier arms + the cloak
crystal forum
i just bought the hardcover krieg book to whip it out whenever a krieg fan calls me a fake guard lover
dusk patrol
i just bought the hardcover krieg book to whip it out whenever a krieg fan calls...
How often has this happened
crystal forum
How often has this happened
my hope is it eventually will
shadow plover
the other nundams aren't that much smaller, they just lack the drip
dusk patrol
lol
crystal forum
otherwise i just wasted a lot of money on paper
dusk patrol
the other nundams aren't that much smaller, they just lack the drip
I’ve seen some conversions of them which help
Green stuff is your friend
arctic talon
They’re less drippy + thinner arms
shadow plover
true enough
plush mason
the other nundams aren't that much smaller, they just lack the drip
the one in the far back with the helmet on looks good
crystal forum
can we talk about how they ruined arbites in the agents set
plush mason
i hate how so many characters in 40k go bare headed into battle
arctic talon
can we talk about how they ruined arbites in the agents set
Wdym
dusk patrol
Did they ruin Arbites?
crystal forum
they turned arbites into a generic guard unit
arctic talon
i hate how so many characters in 40k go bare headed into battle
A lot of them have helmet options
dusk patrol
It’s the same set
arctic talon
they turned arbites into a generic guard unit
You could already run arbites in any list
Generically
plush mason
like it works in a fantasy setting, not in a sci fi with snipers
dusk patrol
I never really enjoy helmetless dudes but it’s also just the aesthetic
arctic talon
That’s elite stat wise for hitting stuff
dusk patrol
That being said I never do it cause I don’t like it and also I’m a bad painter so faces can go fuck themselves
arctic talon
Arbites are still elite
Agents is just a shit codex lol
It’s not well thought out
crystal forum
cant wait for GW to reveal some new cadian unit for guard codes
arctic talon
Rumors are krieg
crystal forum
it's 100% going to be cadian
arctic talon
Based on a rumor engine
dusk patrol
Krieg, probably Catachan soon
storm jungle
it's 100% going to be cadian
Stop whining!!!!
arctic talon
We literally saw part of the krieg command squad flag
dusk patrol
Hopefully Elysians
arctic talon
It’s highly likely to be krieg
crystal forum
ok
arctic talon
Then catachan
crystal forum
Hopefully Elysians
i WISH
arctic talon
So GW can round out the range
storm jungle
Mods ban this racoon creature
plush mason
It’s not well thought out
that seems like the general thing with 10e
arctic talon
Depends
crystal forum
elysians would be so good
dusk patrol
I’ve heard tell the mods around here are pretty lame ngl
plush mason
thats what i mean yeah
arctic talon
Agents never should have been turned into an army the way GW did it
crystal forum
catachan would be sweet too but do people even buy those models
plush mason
some of the stuff is great others not so much
dusk patrol
I wouldn’t be shocked if this Killteam is partially an exploration of people’s interest in a Elysian rollout
storm jungle
catachan would be sweet too but do people even buy those models
if the set will have big muscular women they will
arctic talon
catachan would be sweet too but do people even buy those models
The old ones no, the newer ones yes
crystal forum
Agents never should have been turned into an army the way GW did it
they were better attached to militarum
dusk patrol
catachan would be sweet too but do people even buy those models
There’s a reason Catachan range is still around
crystal forum
couldn't you use agents with militarum?
plush mason
if the set will have big muscular women they will
yes, make the incels run screaming
arctic talon
couldn't you use agents with militarum?
You can use agents with any imperial army
crystal forum
oh
dusk patrol
yes, make the incels run screaming
Mfer those are the dorks buying it
crystal forum
they should be attached to militarum
arctic talon
Because they feel like they got written in like 15 minutes
arctic talon
they should be attached to militarum
You can if you want
crystal forum
astartes should be attached to militarum
plush mason
Mfer those are the dorks buying it
every community has its unwanted cancer
dusk patrol
As opposed to the wanted cancer?
crystal forum
straken?
plush mason
As opposed to the wanted cancer?
yes
dusk patrol
Nah the cigar guy
arctic talon
crystal forum
he should retire to catachan and spend his time peacefully hunting extremely deadly fauna
dusk patrol
But he should
arctic talon
He feels like he’d be chopping on one
dusk patrol
he should retire to catachan and spend his time peacefully hunting extremely dea...
He’s on his last mission
arctic talon
Fun fact he has an alternate head
dusk patrol
One more and he’s done
crystal forum
1 tour til retirement
dusk patrol
Too old for this shit
crystal forum
too old for this shit
dusk patrol
His muscles have muscles
arctic talon
For a catachan refresh I’d expect, command squad, colonel, infantry squad, hwt
crystal forum
btw is there a model for AAAAAAAAAA
dusk patrol
I always love “normal” guard with powefists
crystal forum
does he have rules
arctic talon
Yes
dusk patrol
crystal forum
damn that's actually a good mini
arctic talon
He’s decent
crystal forum
also 40k mac10
plush mason
why is the plant from little shop of horrors next to the ork head?
arctic talon
Catachan plant
dusk patrol
Catachan
crystal forum
venus fly traps dont come from a movie
plush mason
oh right
dusk patrol
Poor Ork didn’t know what hit him
spring cairn
a very docile plant
plush mason
venus fly traps dont come from a movie
crystal forum
that's probably a whole ass warboss too knowing marbo
plush mason
that aint no venus fly trap
arctic talon
also 40k mac10
It’s THE Ripper put some respect on its name
silenced auto pistol with man stopper rounds smh
dusk patrol
plush mason
It’s **THE** Ripper put some respect on its name
so thats what a ripper looks like
crystal forum
silenced auto pistol with man stopper rounds smh
erm it's actually an autopistol
dusk patrol
I’d love a new Harker model too
arctic talon
erm it's actually an autopistol
I called it an auto pistol
dusk patrol
so thats what a ripper looks like
Different ripper
arctic talon
Are you blind smh
crystal forum
need more ripped women
arctic talon
It’s just a named one
dusk patrol
need more ripped women
You need more bitches
arctic talon
The Ripper is one of the names of all time though
dusk patrol
crystal forum
I’d love a new Harker model too
"humans cant handle bolters"
man with heavy bolter:
crystal forum
custodes on vacation
plush mason
Harker has to be at least 1/16th ogryn
i feel like that is true for most of the people of Catachan
crystal forum
guy makes astartes look weak
dusk patrol
He also just did that one day
arctic talon
i feel like that is true for most of the people of Catachan
No they’re like 1/32th ogryn smh
plush mason
they are all big as hell
dusk patrol
He ran out of ammo and grabbed a heavy bolter
plush mason
ofc
crystal forum
sly marbo has already killed you and you dont know it
arctic talon
Sly marbo being allowed to move everytime he shoots is hilarious
Along with the if anyone near him gets shot he shoots back and moves
crystal forum
catachan killteam would be so fucking good
dusk patrol
Harker is also part of Strackens Devils regiment which are basically the elite of the elite for Catachan
arctic talon
catachan killteam would be so fucking good
I will scream if we get another guard kill team this set
crystal forum
fuck you
arctic talon
Please just once per season
crystal forum
no
arctic talon
I can’t take it if it’s fucking twice per season
crystal forum
nobody cares about xenos and astartes
dusk patrol
GW Deathwatch Killteam please
arctic talon
GW should finish
The kill team index first lol
So every faction has a bespoke team
plush mason
nah it was half true
crystal forum
put me in charge of GW planning and i'll sink the company in a day
arctic talon
Lol
crystal forum
all guard
plush mason
the xeno half was correct
crystal forum
warhammer 11th edition, presented with valhallans
plush mason
Hey now people like xenos just not the xenos army you want
no one at GW does
dusk patrol
Now that
crystal forum
nobody asked but you're getting it anyways
arctic talon
dusk patrol
And we’re not getting Mordians
arctic talon
Killteam 5 years down the line
crystal forum
elysians even less
crystal forum
even the indentured servitude guys
dusk patrol
Although I wouldn’t mind it
arctic talon
Votann are on their 4th killteam
crystal forum
you win by paying real money
arctic talon
I can literally see a future where the factions without a bespoke team still don’t have teams
Which is horrid
crystal forum
what does bespoke even mean
dusk patrol
They be spoking
arctic talon
what does bespoke even mean
Having actual rules
crystal forum
bees poke
rocky gale
Preview Warcom article confirms there's going to be two squads of the new Sanguinary Guard and the new BA Captain in the new combat patrol
arctic talon
It means “fancy”
arctic talon
Preview Warcom article confirms there's going to be two squads of the new Sangui...
That combat patrol is gona be good value at least lol
rocky gale
Well
crystal forum
if only they dont up the price again
rocky gale
If anyone wants the new SG
arctic talon
if only they dont up the price again
It’ll still be good value bcs sang guard are most likely going to be insanely high points
Lol
arctic talon
If anyone wants the new SG
Yeah
rocky gale
The leak was BA Captain, 2 units of Sang guard and the new Death Company
arctic talon
Huh
rocky gale
Which is very odd for a Combat Patrol
rocky gale
They rarely put new models into Combat Patrol
rocky gale
But the Sang Guard and Captain have been confirmed
crystal forum
They rarely put new models into Combat Patrol
guard one not having a leman russ but having a shitty support rocket launcher thing
rocky gale
Huh
arctic talon
guard one not having a leman russ but having a shitty support rocket launcher th...
That’s a rebox of the guard launch box in 9e
rocky gale
I love the current Guard box
arctic talon
So does it really count lol
crystal forum
I love the current Guard box
why
arctic talon
It’s decent imo they could have put another infantry squad or two in
rocky gale
It's great
crystal forum
no leman russ 😔
rocky gale
I mean, look at the Cities of Sigmar Spearhead and then look at the Guard Patrol
Only one squad of Steelhelms
But na I like the Guard Patrol
It's cool
arctic talon
I mean, look at the Cities of Sigmar Spearhead and then look at the Guard Patrol
True
GW seems incapable of making a good horde army starter box
Is what I would say if the fucking skaventide one didn’t exist
Lol
rocky gale
Cities is a horde army and it's Spearhead has like 17 models in it
crystal forum
money
rocky gale
Then Lumineth which is a fairly elite army has like 26 models
arctic talon
money
It’s not money, GW just puts together whatever for their boxes lol
It’s very schizophrenic
I did not enjoy playing against the skaven spearhead
Thing is actually a nightmare to fight
crystal forum
i saw a theory that they just put whatever model they have an excess of
but i doubt they work that way
rocky gale
My friends got Fyreslayers and I'm scared to face the horde of naked gingers
Like guess which one is the horde army
crystal forum
that's a lot of axes
rocky gale
paper haven
Needs more axes
storm jungle
too much WEED
crystal forum
☁️
are they fighting in a meadow of clown grass or something
you guys think we'll ever get a plasma pistol or hand flamer in darktide?
dusk patrol
Probably eventually
crystal forum
still waiting on my melta gun
dusk patrol
Probably more an execution issue with that
It needs to be powerful but can’t be too power and the niche it would fill is kinda weird
crystal forum
tbh the plasma gun acts like a melta gun rn
dusk patrol
Yeah
crystal forum
if it was more explosive
dusk patrol
It’s hard to find a place for the melta, but I hope we get it
Same with a Ogryn heavy bolter/autocannon
crystal forum
ogryn heavy bolter would definitely have a use
just neeeeed autocannon
i want a reload animation with the drum
celest dome
Autocannon could be a Semi auto anti armour weapon
Though known Autocannon for Ogryn:
"Six/Twelve" Mauler Cannon - An adaptation unique to the Spinward Front of the Calixis Sector, the Mauler Cannon is actually a modified, twin-barrelled M34 Autocannon designed specifically for use by Ogryns. Rebuilt with a heavier frame, shorter barrels, a fire-limiter, larger handholds, and a triple harness capable of withstanding an Ogryn's strength, the Mauler Cannon gives Ogryn units an enormous boost to their firepower. Sadly Mauler Cannons have picked up the nickname "Six/Twelve" by regular guardsmen, referring to the number of shots an Ogryn will likely fire before they somehow break it or decide to use the weapon as a club.
opaque coyote
Autocannon could be a Semi auto anti armour weapon
Ah you shoot one and the enemy magically disappears
Also if I were to ask
Generally, if you were a guardsman sent against the Imperium's enemies.
What would be the worst deployment for a guardsman?
I think in terms of the top 3
- Drukhari
- Slaanesh
- Nurgle
The Drukhari and Slaanesh Daemons/CSMs/cultists will not simply just kill you. They will do unspeakable things to you. With the bare minimum being flaying you alive.
I put Slaaneshi just a bit below because you can join them. You wouldn't want to, but the option is there. For Drukhari, nah they're most likely gonna just make you into a couch.
If fighting against either, volunteer to use a plasma gun. Not because it will help. But because it's the most effective way to destroy your brain if you feel like you're likely gonna get captured. It's hard to recover melted goop.'
For Nurgle, well, for one. Poxwalkers are a thing
And unless if you're willing to join him. You will likely suffer from diseases that are made to make the victim suffer as long as possible
storm jungle
Also to be honest all 3 of these are horrible, it kinda falls into a "pick your poison" dilemma
dusk patrol
Immaterial, I can quickdraw my laspitol and blow my brains out the same for all three
storm jungle
big mood tbh
opaque coyote
Also to be honest all 3 of these are horrible, it kinda falls into a "pick your ...
Yeah true.
Ig the 4th spot is actually hard to decide
Honestly idk whether Necrons or Khorne would be worse
storm jungle
Unless its Flayed Ones necrons literally just kill you
same with Khorne
they see dying in battle as the greatest honor they can give to enemies they respect and face
winter vessel
they see dying in battle as the greatest honor they can give to enemies they res...
And that they also repeatedly stab said face at least a hundred times
storm jungle
you will be dead after Stab 1 or Stab 2 its fine
winter vessel
Dying to those affiliated with Khorne is my top pick were I shoved on a battlefield fighting chaos. Nurgle would give me different types of psoriasis conditions I wasn’t aware of, Tzeentch would just turn me into a living rubix cube. And Slaanesh would CENSORED my CENOSORED and shove a CENSORED until I split in half
arctic talon
Also if I were to ask
Generally, if you were a guardsman sent against the Imper...
Top 5 are Drukhari, Slaanesh, Nurgle, Orks(if you’re captured alive), tyranids
rose thorn
I’d like to propose guardsmen is also terrible. If you win, you are a traitor, if you lose, you are a traitor
And the imperium has plenty of punishments
Guard vs guard
Or guard vs sisters actually
Guard vs admech might be the worst via inter imperium conflict
tough haven
Guard vs admech might be the worst via inter imperium conflict
radiation poisoning go!
rose thorn
‘Ight so you can either work in the lithium mines until you die. Lobotomy labs until you die. Nuclear reactor room until you die.”
queen laurel
Guard vs admech might be the worst via inter imperium conflict
oh damn that is scary
dusk patrol
Virtually all factions in 40k would suck to fight, for the ones mentioned though it’s much much worse and a lot try to actively capture you
Most just kill you
It would be nightmarish to fight Ad Mech or most loyalist marines but mostly they’ll just kill you
rose thorn
I’d like to mention I think GSC is the only main faction that uses net guns still
dusk patrol
Drukhari and Slannesh are actively trying to capture you often and keep you alive for a long time
rose thorn
Oh and drukhari
Oh my bad webbers
i guess besides 'you got what you got'
genestealer cults would use web guns to kidnap important poeple
paper haven
Bad hands dealt all around.
wraith quartz
In a difficulty sense, how bad is blackout on the higher levels?
Like from a "Getting dragged into the darkness level", to a "Darktide? More like Dorktide"
winter vessel
Bigger Pox hordes, be aware for voice line queues from special enemies, especially the footsteps of a crusher. And if you start hearing the D host speaking in tongues, I’d advise not shooting until you’re clear of the area.
sacred ginkgo
Shoot the daemonhost once for extra light
Also mind your flashlight around it if your gun comes with one standard
But pings work as normal unlike vermintide darkness so it’s largely business as usual
dusk patrol
The mission goes faster if you spam your light on and off
winter vessel
Yes. The Crackfiend route
arctic talon
Rinda Karnak
tough haven
boring
sacred ginkgo
It’s rinda but she doesn’t have a shield or 30-40% of her health so she just dies
Really good for farming out lights out penance though
crystal forum
https://tenor.com/view/die-death-die-spongebob-spunch-gif-21757965
better than dyin from starvation in an underhive
that's what makes the guard great
they're legitimately grateful for not doing hive labor
tough haven
It’s rinda but she doesn’t have a shield or 30-40% of her health so she just die...
couldnt even bother to add something new
rose thorn
im glad skaven got the W but why must stormcasts keep waiting
literally one of the posts today was
f your auspex scanners were properly calibrated, you’ll have noticed that the latest edition of Kill Team was covertly deployed in the Operation Hivestorm Preview at the weekend.
There’s plenty of classified documents for us to sift through and send on, provided you have the necessary security clearance. This week, we’ll be briefing on…
followed by nothing else
im too impatient for gw aaa
opaque coyote
Really good for farming out lights out penance though
Lights Out makes me want to just give up Tertium to Nurgle occasionally
I just don't like not being able to see clearly
Linda deciding to come out and occasionally try to kill us doesn't help either
But she's basically like an easier scab captain without the shield or the beefier boss health
sacred ginkgo
I thinks lights out is fun
opaque coyote
So she's actually the less annoying part.
The enemies she likes the bring with her on the other hand
Uhhh
Yeah I love getting rushed by a mutant, 4 crushers, and a pox horde
Just fucking stay dead Linda I swear to the Emperor
opaque coyote
I thinks lights out is fun
It's fun sometimes but Everytime I play quick play every other mission is lights out
sacred ginkgo
I just intentionally play it right now
Good for farming out the penance
always 1 on the mission board and always damnation
opaque coyote
I swear some fucking Greater Daemon must be pissing on Tertium's power bank
opaque coyote
Good for farming out the penance
Tbf, it is marginally less painful than that one penance where they uh
Cover everything in gas
I fucking hate that one
opaque coyote
i like pox gas
Jokes aside, for me that type of stuff is kinda uh
Unfun
Like it isn't due to the enemies
Or anything
sacred ginkgo
I think its interesting, it prevents you from relying on the best holds for every event
opaque coyote
I think its interesting, it prevents you from relying on the best holds for ever...
What is a hold
Serious btw I'm still slightly new
sacred ginkgo
The places you usually stand and fight during events
Like the old area they stuck a ramp in the carnival colosseum
opaque coyote
Ah
fallen plaza
Gas is kinda eh
opaque coyote
You like it cause it changes up strategy
fallen plaza
It's a bit boring
arctic talon
I don't love tox gas
fallen plaza
I would like it more if they weren't so generous with stims
arctic talon
Its fine on some maps
sacred ginkgo
I just don't like getting corrupted
Theres health stims everywhere
opaque coyote
Theres health stims everywhere
True
It's more of an annoyance thing really
Like going to get your flu shot
Several times
In a row
fallen plaza
Unless your psyker corruption takes awhile to actually matter most of the time
opaque coyote
Actually
As a question for y'all even tho this isn't the channel for it
Least favorite penance/stage effect?
fallen plaza
I like most stage effects
Though I confess I don't think I've seen all of them
None of them I hate, at worst I find them mid
fallen plaza
ie most darkness levels and pox
opaque coyote
"Killed one dog, well here comes another dog to maul you!"
opaque coyote
I'm just thankful Obese Shark hadn't added one where it's all trappers
fallen plaza
I'm just thankful Obese Shark hadn't added one where it's all trappers
I wouldn't mind that
fallen plaza
Usually yes
When there are a literal horde of them
When there a horde most classes in the game can counter it either by just dodging and spamming m1 a lot or have a fuck ton of bullets
opaque coyote
If there was a trapper and Erebus in the room, with only one bullet.
I wouldn't even be able to shoot cause the trapper would've already ran away, shot through a wall, and trapped me under their net
fallen plaza
It is kinda annoying how enemic hound patrols are
fallen plaza
Usually yes
When there are a literal horde of them
Hound patrols in general really only punish disorganized teammates in matches
Because if your decent, they pass you by
opaque coyote
When there a horde most classes in the game can counter it either by just dodgin...
Using a Bolter to clear a pox horde is satisfying.
Not as effective as just melee or using a fucking Lasgun or something
fallen plaza
At least in a team sense, not individually
opaque coyote
But it is satisfying
Kinda makes me wish it was more explosive sometimes
But that's just me wanting to just
fallen plaza
Using a Bolter to clear a pox horde is satisfying.
Not as effective as just mel...
I prefer using a pox burster on them
Much more funny
opaque coyote
DAKKADAKKADAKKA
opaque coyote
I prefer using a pox burster on them
pushes pox burster back
immediately explodes towards their own men
Pushing Pox Bursters are funny
fallen plaza
Using a Bolter to clear a pox horde is satisfying.
Not as effective as just mel...
Most full auto weapons can work on pox hordes
So it works
I find it more satisfying to use it on crushers if it weren't such a waste to use it on them I'd do it more
opaque coyote
I find it more satisfying to use it on crushers if it weren't such a waste to us...
Bolter
fallen plaza
Yea bolter
crystal forum
good thing we have plot armour
fallen plaza
I still find it a waste on them
opaque coyote
Still wish that weird iron sights bug was fixed
fallen plaza
This is why I only hipfire
crystal forum
on tabletop imagine a single guardsman killing like 40 cultists with an autogun
opaque coyote
This is why I only hipfire
Yeah Bolter is fun to hipfire.
opaque coyote
on tabletop imagine a single guardsman killing like 40 cultists with an autogun
They're just rolling 6s everytime
Dw
crystal forum
mfw the tabletop is the realistic version
opaque coyote
Also quite disappointed that we never see anything like
Normal Guardsmen vs SMs
In media at least
opaque coyote
We do?
opaque coyote
Oh nice
arctic talon
there's books with imperial infighting
Nachmund for example
literally has a crusade of black templars slaughter an entire regiment of guardsmen
during the funny imperial civil war portion
opaque coyote
Still though, would be interesting if other media had more infighting
crystal forum
Also quite disappointed that we never see anything like
Normal Guardsmen vs SMs
read any tanith book
or astartes book
arctic talon
Imperial infighting is like
crystal forum
or any book at all
opaque coyote
a lot of it
I mean other than the books
crystal forum
astartes regularly shoot guardsmen
opaque coyote
But yeah I should read more
arctic talon
Idfk
The rule books like imperial infighting
because it gives a narrative excuse
for you to run Imperium V Imperium stuff
crystal forum
cadians shooting ultramarines is lore accurate trust me
opaque coyote
for you to run Imperium V Imperium stuff
Yeah that's basically the reason why
fallen plaza
Yeah Bolter is fun to hipfire.
I just hipfire all the time tbh
arctic talon
Nachmund is hilarious in that one paranoid guard officer fucks it all up
gets executed by a comissar
causes the Eldar to leave as allies and for the Imperium to start murdering each other
crystal forum
actually you can probably literally write a cadian vs ultramarine fight as fog of war thing where both sides dont even realize they're allies
arctic talon
very good job random Guard officer
you really fucked it up
I forgot if he was a company commander or a castellan
either way he was a Cadian
lol
opaque coyote
I just hipfire all the time tbh
Yeah you usually hipfire for most guns. Especially since the mags are high.
But for guns like revolvers, bolt pistols, and bolters. I sometimes aim in for a bit extra better aim
Only to realize
"Oh I'm playing Darktide"
crystal forum
cadians fucking it up for everybody
opaque coyote
When I miss with the boltpistol ads
opaque coyote
causes the Eldar to leave as allies and for the Imperium to start murdering each...
I'm just imagining the Eldar are watching from their craftworld
Eating chips
crystal forum
the bolt pistol shoots faster when aiming no?
also that fanning revolver is peak
kill all elites in my radius
arctic talon
I'm just imagining the Eldar are watching from their craftworld
one of their autarchs got their brains blown out
opaque coyote
one of their autarchs got their brains blown out
Gaming
Yeah that must've been chaos
Not literally but
You get the point
crystal forum
i want to shoot more heretics
with autoguns
also the scion helmet makes a really cool voice filter
fallen plaza
Auto guns are fun yeah
opaque coyote
I just wish for a video game where you play as a Chaos cultist or something
arctic talon
Not literally but
Chaos was involved tbf lol
but not on the like
reason why the backstabbing happened
crystal forum
Auto guns are fun yeah
if only we could make a drum mag cut down version 😔
i want louder and more ammo
i might have ork genes
opaque coyote
reason why the backstabbing happened
Cultist: "So... did anybody cause this or..."
Chaos Sorcerer: "N- I mean yes, just a s pla-"
Cultist: "No, no you clearly did not cause this."
crystal forum
shooting bullets at heretics makes me feel strong emotions
are sisters of battle supposed to not enjoy burning heretics
how the fuck do you not become slaanesh oriented when you're spewing raw prometium at your enemy
that shit makes me rock hard
fallen plaza
the voice filter is that cool
The voice filter fucking pierces my ears I hate it
crystal forum
The voice filter fucking pierces my ears I hate it
are we even hearing the same voice filter
im talking about the super gravely one
opaque coyote
if only we could make a drum mag cut down version 😔
Do we have the Vpanther pattern in Darktide?
crystal forum
the what
fallen plaza
Chud pattern nerdgun
opaque coyote
I think it was in the Necromunda videogame
Eh whatever
The Veteran should get a regular Heavy Stubber
I like dakka
crystal forum
did somebody try to write panther and fucked it up
say vpanther out loud
dumbest sounding name ever
crystal forum
The Veteran should get a regular Heavy Stubber
i approve this message
arctic talon
this is the same hiveworld where Rich kids in giant murder suits hunt poor people for sport
arctic talon
Necromunda also has my favorite idea for a mercenary ever
constantly thirsty so they literally hunt down people for the water in their body
crystal forum
this is the same hiveworld where Rich kids in giant murder suits hunt poor peopl...
i'd like to see these rich kids fight my shitty walmart melta gun
arctic talon
also their suit can suck out water from people
opaque coyote
i approve this message
Actually actually
...
Storm Bolter
arctic talon
i'd like to see these rich kids fight my shitty walmart melta gun
some of the suits can fly or have refractor fields 
crystal forum
Actually actually
...
Storm Bolter
no
crystal forum
some of the suits can fly or have refractor fields <:vox:925922732342923275>
multi melta
also why do these rich kids have better equipment than sisters of battle
arbites should be looking into this
and i DARE you to kill an arbites
actually
what are arbites doing on necromunda
fallen plaza
Still waiting on the 2handed power sword to release so i can complete my kruber cosplay
opaque coyote
also why do these rich kids have better equipment than sisters of battle
Cause they're rich
opaque coyote
i hate storm bolters
I think Heavy Bolter would be cool for Ogyrns tho
The model should look like it was just
crystal forum
heavy bolter i approve
opaque coyote
Ripped off of it's stand
crystal forum
F!sting is 300 aquilas
damn that's cheap
arctic talon
what are arbites doing on necromunda
Busy enforcing the Lex and watching the Noble houses like hawks
Also the Spryer suits are really rare
crystal forum
i feel like arbites on nercomunda have a whole guard regiment size of manpower
crystal forum
ready to just take over the planet in case shit goes bad
arctic talon
Specifically rich people ahve them
queen laurel
Also the Spryer suits are really rare
Compared to your other power armor in imperium factions how does it perform
arctic talon
i feel like arbites on nercomunda have a whole guard regiment size of manpower
Theres a lot of them on Munda
queen laurel
I don't expect it to be you know something like a centurion warsuit or a terminator
arctic talon
Compared to your other power armor in imperium factions how does it perform
Its about as protective as power armor, but far more versatile + has integrated weapons
its downside is its big
its loud
and they're really rare
crystal forum
so astartes would take them down easily
queen laurel
Its about as protective as power armor, but far more versatile + has integrated ...
For features like that i'd say that's a good trade off because i feel like having integrated weapon systems on a power armor is fun
arctic talon
the primary use rn
queen laurel
And it seems the suit is capable of having a lot of it
arctic talon
is uh
the nobles are sending their kids
to go murder genestealers
with Van Saar lol
crystal forum
for fun?
arctic talon
no
queen laurel
To get rid of competition
arctic talon
so the genestealers stop making ground
So the rich kids are actually doing something important for once
queen laurel
Occupy your kids to have something to do and they won't worry about trying to dethrone you
opaque coyote
Compared to your other power armor in imperium factions how does it perform
Better than Astartes, but rare
arctic talon
also to hunt for archeotech
opaque coyote
It does have a interesting feature though
queen laurel
Better than Astartes, but rare
I don't include space marine power armor
arctic talon
self repair and upgrading yeah
queen laurel
Just a human ones
arctic talon
its really weird armor
opaque coyote
I don't include space marine power armor
"However the most important feature of the hunting rig is their power boosting system. As the wearer fights and gains experience in combat, the hunting rig will adapt and evolve to suit the wearer by increasing power to certain systems, unlocking previously unavailable abilities and new potential as the hunt continues."
winter vessel
Have There ever been records of an Imperial noble/planetary governor that had an ounce of kindness, and wasn’t a complete ass?
fallen plaza
Powerfist with bolter mounted on it when fatshart
arctic talon
Those rich kids sure as shit aren't having a good time
or maybe
they're having the time of their life
but genestealers fight back more then poor people
and gangers
opaque coyote
they're having the time of their life
Depends tbh
queen laurel
"However the most important feature of the hunting rig is their power boosting s...
My point is space marine power armor won't work on a comparison to human power armor because it's fitted exactly for them
arctic talon
Point being its very funny
that the rich kids went from slaughtering poor people for fun
to actually doing something that matters
crystal forum
oh great so hunting rigs come from "offworld" so we have no idea who makes them
opaque coyote
My point is space marine power armor won't work on a comparison to human power a...
Fair enough.
Still though it is pretty good.
arctic talon
oh great so hunting rigs come from "offworld" so we have no idea who makes them
probably custom made mechanicus crap mixed with xenotech
opaque coyote
to actually doing something that matters
I mean tbf the actual purpose is to prove yourself to be ruthless and capable
arctic talon
Yeah
fallen plaza
My point is space marine power armor won't work on a comparison to human power a...
Inquisitors do get termie armor sometimes, I have seen to see art of it and how dopey it looks
arctic talon
but like its not just hunting random poor people now
opaque coyote
So killing Jeanstealers probably gives them a gold star
crystal forum
probably custom made mechanicus crap mixed with xenotech
it can repair itself. there's 100000% some xeno shit in there
opaque coyote
queen laurel
Inquisitors do get termie armor sometimes, I have seen to see art of it and how ...
Oh yeah i forgot inquisitors are just that special
crystal forum
xeno tech is like dark age tech except more fancy
opaque coyote
it can repair itself. there's 100000% some xeno shit in there
Honestly makes me wish we got a SM that uses like
A large Spyrer suit
Maybe a failed aspirant
crystal forum
no that would require astartes using anything that isn't bog standard
opaque coyote
That decided
"Alright, Geneseed won't work, and my legs are now fucked. Fine then. I'll do it myself."
arctic talon
Would be fun for a necromunda bounty hunter
Tbh
Since the fists recruit from munda
crystal forum
custodes flexing his muscles in the corner while he convinced a hive gang to fight for the imperium
opaque coyote
Would be fun for a necromunda bounty hunter
Actually playing as a Spyrer suit
Sounds really fun
Especially since like I posted earlier
fallen plaza
custodes flexing his muscles in the corner while he convinced a hive gang to fig...
Be weird for a custo to do that
opaque coyote
It adapts to the user
crystal forum
i like the idea of custodes being spies but just convincing people to be good
opaque coyote
I was talking about for the tabletop
Jokes on you. I don't play tabletop!
Because I...
Want to actually be able to eat
queen laurel
Cheap by warhammer standards
arctic talon
💀
opaque coyote
But yeah it just sounds fun in general.
Video game and tabletop
arctic talon
Cheap by warhammer standards
No it’s cheap by other game standards
You literally just need 2 boxes
And you’re done
opaque coyote
The second cheapest skirmish game on the market
Also uh
It requires people
queen laurel
You literally just need 2 boxes
Is that expensive by warhammer standards?
arctic talon
Yeah that’s the issue
opaque coyote
And I am too nervous to ask my friends
arctic talon
Is that expensive by warhammer standards?
No
Well
It’s more expensive then killteam
arctic talon
Killteam is just a single box
opaque coyote
I was talking about for the tabletop
I mean it sounds fun as a video game also
arctic talon
Necromunda or killteam could def be adapted as video games
opaque coyote
Because like I said. The suit literally adapts to you which gives an excuse for perks
You're a rich kid fr
arctic talon
As in like strategy games
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
But also necromunda already got an fps
I tried it
It's alright
Could've definitely done more with it tho
But I get why they didn't
Still sucks that most 40k games
Suck
queen laurel
But also necromunda already got an fps
It also got a strategy game
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
But you know those games are
I swear it's like a curse
Tzeentch fucking cursed us maj
dusk patrol
Deathwatch XCOM game ripoff please
queen laurel
That one was horrid
You don't have to tell me
People not liking it was a good enough boom that i heard it
opaque coyote
You don't have to tell me
Seriously why are so many 40k games just
crystal forum
i dont think GW will ever adapt killteam to game 1:1 because then why would people buy the tabletop
opaque coyote
Garbage
arctic talon
i dont think GW will ever adapt killteam to game 1:1 because then why would peop...
Not a 1 to 1
crystal forum
Seriously why are so many 40k games just
it's the curse of 40k
opaque coyote
I mean even Warhammer Fantasy got more bangers
crystal forum
Just something intresting based on it
i feel like they intentionally dont do it. otherwise they're morons for not capitalizing on a turn based killteam strategy game
because i'd buy that shit instantly
opaque coyote
i feel like they intentionally dont do it. otherwise they're morons for not capi...
Could easily be the latter thi
crystal forum
like imagine a fun 45 minute game
arctic talon
i feel like they intentionally dont do it. otherwise they're morons for not capi...
GW executives are known for being incredibly conservative and safe with non mini stuff
crystal forum
with cool killing animations
arctic talon
I think the best adaptation would be make it grid based
Make melee even more lethal
crystal forum
like those mobile games
arctic talon
Make ranged combat more lethal
crystal forum
the turn based ones
opaque coyote
GW executives are known for being incredibly conservative and safe with non mini...
GW executives be like
"Okay let's not do anything cool."
"...and now time to let Gav Thrope write another Eldar book!"
crystal forum
just 2 player online matchmaking
arctic talon
The tabletop game is almost that way
But it’s not nearly as explosive
Also people get to have their lore accurate marines or whatever lol
opaque coyote
Playing as a Spyrer sounds fun.
Imagine it being a rogue-like
Each new attempt is just another rich kid lmao
arctic talon
Marines are genuinely scary in killteam
opaque coyote
arctic talon
Some basic rifle guy can literally tear some melee specialists in half
Same with Orks and Eldar
crystal forum
i like how krieg in killteam is just expendable units
arctic talon
They’re really fun
arctic talon
Super high skill
Position focused
Play smart
Use your resources well
And you’ll win
arctic talon
And unlike most teams they don’t worry about plasma
They worry about high volume of fire
Which ironically makes the ork team one of their worst matchups
💀
crystal forum
i wonder what a valhallan one would be like
even more expendable
just more units but shit
opaque coyote
and yet they're all top of the line
Tbf Kriegers are supposed to be elite, extremely trained, and practical masters at the field of battle
crystal forum
they had to make the scion one a drop pod themed since kasrkin already had the normal scion vibe
opaque coyote
They just have extreme self hatred passed down by cilture
arctic talon
i wonder what a valhallan one would be like
The krieg one is a generic veteran guardsmen killteam
crystal forum
which means we'll never get an elysian killteam
arctic talon
We could
For a hit and run styled team
Since 5+ saves
Scions got a 4+ and more wounds
They’re a 10 man not a 13 man
crystal forum
Tbf Kriegers are supposed to be elite, extremely trained, and practical masters ...
they have shit units like the rest
killteams are all elite troops tho
opaque coyote
Fair enough
crystal forum
people act like krieg is special for having a high death rate
most guard regiments only promote but survival lol
arctic talon
There’s a reason it’s called killteam veteran guardsmen
crystal forum
if you survive long enough you become sergeant
arctic talon
And not killteam death korps of krieg
opaque coyote
people act like krieg is special for having a high death rate
I mean
Guardsmen die a lot in general
Not as much as some people say
But
crystal forum
they absolutely do
opaque coyote
Yeah
crystal forum
they die by the thousands
arctic talon
Either way I think the only regiments now that’ll get their own killteam are elysians and catachan
I think the rest of the popular regiments
Can fit into the current one rules wise
crystal forum
are elysians really that popular
arctic talon
Quite
crystal forum
they got removed ages ago
arctic talon
They’re one of the big boys
crystal forum
that's their entire fucking culture
drop troop
what the fuck is that about
who cares
just make a drop troop cadian company
fallen plaza
they're just diet cadian
Yeah but, they have there own sentinel verient, so there cooler to me
crystal forum
it's literally tabletop bait
fallen plaza
Still
crystal forum
if they come back they need a proper theming
crystal forum
we got 2 new ones with auxilia
fallen plaza
And only one is good
crystal forum
you dont like stumpy sentinel and sentinel lite?
fallen plaza
The big goofy one
fallen plaza
The small one sucks because it doesn't match the theme of the auxilia
fallen plaza
Solar aux vehicles shouldn't be open topped
crystal forum
yes they should
fallen plaza
They are meant to ensure the harsh environment
crystal forum
solar auxilia literally have enclosed fighting suits
fallen plaza
That's why there artillery looks weird to begin with