Unfortunately
#40k-lore-chat
queen laurel
crystal forum
i genuinely enjoy the new stuff more than the TTS stuff
fallen plaza
Let's move on to another topic before I become increasingly more bitter than I am normally
crystal forum
this is why i print
fallen plaza
Hunter the parenting is good
wintry scarab
Probably because its reach is so small. Astartes reached so far beyond the neiche fanbases. All of my friends have seen it yet they dont have a clue about 40k.
spring cairn
best animator who uploads on yt ? Theparrygod
queen laurel
warhammer lore youtubers not really suffering from so-called making money off of their product but animators do
wintry scarab
best animator who uploads on yt ? Theparrygod
Yes.
spring cairn
arctic talon
Hunter the parenting is good
Hunter the parenting is much better then TTS
fallen plaza
spring cairn
i can't post the it's so peak gif
arctic talon
Tbh
fallen plaza
Hunter the parenting is much better then TTS
That much is true
spring cairn
imagine it's there
raven stone
Times like these.
I wonder why GW can't learn from MiHoYo on how to capitalise fan content ...
crystal forum
old out of touch execs
fallen plaza
That's not a mihoyo thing
fallen plaza
A lot of Asian companies understand that fan content is what shows success
raven stone
That's not a mihoyo thing
Yea fair, just the example I am most exposed to.
crystal forum
A lot of Asian companies understand that fan content is what shows success
except japanese companies 
queen laurel
Yea fair, just the example I am most exposed to.
Rogue trader and anime games you are an amalgamation of beyond what is sane
crystal forum
because japanese copyright laws are somehow more draconian than western ones
fallen plaza
except japanese companies <:B_DogCheemsSmile:731223902617075845>
Especially Japanese, Nintendo are just assholes
raven stone
also british
Actually yea IIRC British IP Law is also really ass outdated.
queen laurel
Bro japanese copyright laws are absolutely brutal
They can bring down just about anyone if they feel like they are using their content
fallen plaza
You can get arrested for pirating Nintendo games in Japan if I recall
wintry scarab
I just wish more companies worked like Digital Extremes. Mutual respect between customer and business. Not this modern bullshit everyone is just accepting.
arctic talon
Nintendo are like actually comically evil
queen laurel
Nintendo are like actually comically evil
Have you heard the whole gmod debacle
I don't think it was nintendo but
queen laurel
I wouldn't be surprised if it was them
crystal forum
i've said this before but you can tell alot about how chill a country is by their stance on weed
spring cairn
it wasn't them
raven stone
Bro japanese copyright laws are absolutely brutal
I really, really want to watch an Evil vs Evil implosion when Nintendo and GW get tricked into violating each other's copyrights somehow...
arctic talon
it wasn't nintendo
spring cairn
just some copyright grifter
arctic talon
I really, really want to watch an Evil vs Evil implosion when Nintendo and GW ge...
GW is infinitely less evil
tbf
LOL
queen laurel
it wasn't them
Yeah but you have to admit you wouldn't be surprised if they did do that
arctic talon
so I will be rooting for them in this instance
queen laurel
Gw is just your generic money making company
spring cairn
i would be
crystal forum
GW just doesnt seem to put much effort
raven stone
GW is infinitely less evil
A surprising revelation, I will keep that in mind!
arctic talon
Nintendo is
crystal forum
they could take down more shit if they wanted to
arctic talon
GW has not literally sent the police
to arrest someone
LOL
and then destroy all their work
fallen plaza
A surprising revelation, I will keep that in mind!
They aren't hasbro
raven stone
Oh right yea. The MTG Pinkerton mess.
spring cairn
at least they don't kill people (yet)
queen laurel
GW has not literally sent the police
Yeah when they you know copyright and stop you they at least do it within passable laws and ways that are hopefully not that damaging
arctic talon
They're assholes
queen laurel
Nintendo
arctic talon
but like
queen laurel
They will summon thanos just to get rid of your game
arctic talon
not any more then most companies
crystal forum
old out of touch assholes at least arent evil
arctic talon
Nintendo would absolutely make use of corporate death squads
if they could
Nintendo is like actively malicous
in how they persue things
queen laurel
Nintendo is like actively malicous
They need the third nuke for them to calm down
dusk patrol
Nintendo killed my family
fallen plaza
not any more then most companies
They are also much sloppier than most companies of there size weirdly enough
arctic talon
tbf
crystal forum
nintendo shot my dog
queen laurel
Yes and gw can do some good things
fallen plaza
Like, remember when in the death guard reveal they used the wrong legion number
spring cairn
Nintendo would absolutely make use of corporate death squads
leave the death squads for the honest hard working american companies please
queen laurel
Aos amazing model stuff like that
crystal forum
GW is not a fortune 500 let's be honest
arctic talon
leave the death squads for the honest hard working american companies please
Chiqita banana
crystal forum
they're big in minis but that's a micro economy
fallen plaza
Or when they called Tartaros Terminator cataphractii
queen laurel
They have been reusing the same slop that has been cooking on their soup for 10 years
Maybe more
crystal forum
Or when they called Tartaros Terminator cataphractii
needs to sound greeker
dusk patrol
small scale despite their size
Weird my ex said the same thing
raven stone
They can absolutely cook something amazing if they put effort in it
Good point about GW, with the better written codices being a point
queen laurel
Good point about GW, with the better written codices being a point
Yeah at least gw will at least at times try something new
Nintendo has been cooking on that mario zelda pokemon soup for so long that they have basically diluted the taste buds of people
To only tasting that
fallen plaza
Nintendo fans are fine with it still
queen laurel
But alas
fallen plaza
There like dogs that eat the same shit for years
queen laurel
Slop sells
misty brook
I always prefered Digimon to Pokemon.
fallen plaza
I'll take your word for it
queen laurel
I always prefered Digimon to Pokemon.
Watch as this dog turns into a fridge turns into a godzilla and turns into a planet eating asteroid
queen laurel
my favorite nintendo game is pikmin
I can work with that
crystal forum
my favorite nintendo game is pikmin
which one
raven stone
Imagine Ad Mech meeting a Digimon 🤣
spring cairn
here at nintendo we release the same games with better (up to personal interpretation) graphics every year or so
crystal forum
I like 3 the most
that game's final boss gave me certain attractions
storm jungle
Especially Japanese, Nintendo are just assholes
Late but I CANNOT fucking believe Nintendo made gmod workshop remove every kind of Mario/etc content off of it 
fallen plaza
40k hazbin hotel collab when
arctic talon
its also probably the best balanced pikmin game lol
queen laurel
Late but I CANNOT fucking believe Nintendo made gmod workshop remove **every** k...
That wasn't nintendo i think
arctic talon
40k hazbin hotel collab when
I'm sure someones painted their daemons that way
storm jungle
Wait it wasnt?
storm jungle
whos decision was it then
spring cairn
it wasn't
storm jungle
the uproar was nuts
arctic talon
queen laurel
Well Dilara is wrong time to make fun of her
spring cairn
it's the same situation as when youtubers get a copyright claim for a music they use by some random lawyer company
storm jungle
'It's Nintendo. Need more be said?'
Following a takedown request issued by Nintendo, the famed physics sandbox Garry's Mod is removing "all Nintendo related stuff" from its Steam Workshop.
lol
spring cairn
p sure i've seen follows up clearing it up
queen laurel
Man that story is just annoying to follow
raven stone
More surprised Valve bent the knee...
misty brook
They just sell videogames.
queen laurel
Nintendo is literally a gaming giant that has a huge monopoly over the market
fallen plaza
Valve when making games 
arctic talon
Valve doesn't care
crystal forum
steam is massive
spring cairn
and gmod uses valve's asset but they don't own gmod
fallen plaza
Valve when they have to properly compensate workshops creators
misty brook
The only game I remember they make was TF2.
spring cairn
that would be Facepunch Studio
crystal forum
gmod got express permission to use source actually i think it's the only game ever
queen laurel
The only game I remember they make was TF2.
Isn't left for dead also valve
spring cairn
gmod got express permission to use source actually i think it's the only game ev...
any games who run on source got persmission
and there's many
raven stone
Well since we be dogpiling on copyright BS.
Remember what Blizzard tried to pull?
crystal forum
no it's different with gmod i dont remember why
but they got like turbo permission
spring cairn
they got the perms to have every valve game assets in
misty brook
Isn't left for dead also valve
That too. I forgot about it.
spring cairn
when you have a source game like, let's say tf2
gmod can acess every asset
you need them both tho
misty brook
crystal forum
dota
spring cairn
one of the most used game for assets in gmod is counter strike source
and it is it's only use
because the game sucks ass
crystal forum
they're coming
queen laurel
Source was like
Is source better now modern day?
Because a lot of people seem to use it for animations and stuff
spring cairn
it is not
fallen plaza
Lmaoo
fallen plaza
It is not
fallen plaza
Everyone uses it because it's free and there used to it
spring cairn
ah you mean the engine ?
arctic talon
the engine is decent
spring cairn
source is p good
arctic talon
its like very nice
queen laurel
I think i confused the source filmmaker
arctic talon
Titanfall 1 and 2 are both source iirc
queen laurel
Does source filmmaker use source engine?
spring cairn
think about it for a minute
misty brook
black mesa
I still don't get how Titanfall and Apex are linked together in the same universe.
arctic talon
yes 
storm jungle
I still don't get how Titanfall and Apex are linked together in the same univers...
I mean it makes sense
arctic talon
Source filmmaker uses the source engine
storm jungle
you are literally a part of a bloodsport games
the problem is Titanfall is about war and destruction and big robots
Apex is uhhhhhhhhhh
queen laurel
think about it for a minute
I'm genuinely asking because this source stuff seems more complicated than simple
spring cairn
peak gaming
storm jungle
GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATT
spring cairn
godamn
queen laurel
Apex has "plot"
Hey octane's grandfather dying and losing his childhood friend because of betrayal is pretty good plot in my book
misty brook
i-I can't with their community.
fallen plaza
Does source filmmaker use source engine?
No
arctic talon
I think I’d rather fuck the psychopathic pilot
fallen plaza
It uses source film maker
spring cairn
i-I can't with their community.
wdym that's the official model
and yes I can't believe I have to answer this but source filmaker does indeed use the source engine
outer wave
https://tenor.com/view/apex-legends-loba-loba-andrade-gaming-gif-17340895
Damn, she shit outta that ass?
queen laurel
Damn, she shit outta that ass?
Schro, i will break you in half
storm jungle
i-I can't with their community.
Pro tip for apex
- Only watch the animations/trailers
- Dont play the game
- Never get into the fandom
outer wave
LMAO
queen laurel
Pro tip for apex
- Only watch the animations/trailers
- Dont play the game
- Nev...
If the game is competitive but has good lore use the league of legends approach
Not touch the game but appreciate the other stuff
fallen plaza
This is what happens if you try to explain source to an ork
misty brook
Pro tip for apex
- Only watch the animations/trailers
- Dont play the game
- Nev...
I played the game, before. It was a massively sucky experience. It was only one time...
arctic talon
Your honor 
spring cairn
death
queen laurel
Your honor <:League:1246266649951076364>
2,000 years in jail
arctic talon
I wish we got to see kayn without him trying to make himself look pretty lol
misty brook
Your honor <:League:1246266649951076364>
fallen plaza
Your honor <:League:1246266649951076364>
queen laurel
I wish we got to see kayn without him trying to make himself look pretty lol
Bro have you seen their female champion design diversity
misty brook
I wish we got to see kayn without him trying to make himself look pretty lol
Rito always make pretty boys.
queen laurel
90% of the motherfuckers are anime girls
spring cairn
props to riot for selling 500 dollars skins to their playerbase
arctic talon
I like how he actually looks more then his splash art
arctic talon
props to riot for selling 500 dollars skins to their playerbase
They stole the idea from valve smh
spring cairn
no you see
arctic talon
Where’s my 1000$ knife skin in valorant
spring cairn
with valve it gains it's value because of a market
with riot it's just 500 straight up
arctic talon
I don’t see a difference personally
crystal forum
people need to stop giving valve a pass for starting loorboxes
spring cairn
the dreaded loorbox
arctic talon
Valve is the one who’s set it up so that prices like that are possible second hand with their stupid cases
Lol
arctic talon
https://tenor.com/view/sion-gif-27094515
outer wave
https://tenor.com/view/sion-gif-27094515
Sion my beloved
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/sion-gif-27094515
My favorite champion is just straight up a sapient rock
outer wave
Too bad that trailer did an awful job showcasing his prowess
spring cairn
Valve is the one who’s set it up so that prices like that are possible second ha...
yeah but the market make it so you can also get cheap stuff
or trade for it
arctic talon
My favorite champion is just straight up a sapient rock
I like his design in the card game more
misty brook
Literally died tearing someone’s head off
Actually he choked someone out, one handed too.
queen laurel
I like his design in the card game more
Yeah definitely a lot better
arctic talon
queen laurel
Also has actually more personality
queen laurel
Which is an achievement in its own right
arctic talon
https://tenor.com/view/malphite-lol-fail-ult-flash-gif-20051092
How the fuck 
queen laurel
Also he's a father
queen laurel
Yes
misty brook
A little creature
There's more than one chip.
queen laurel
The dubious little rock creature
shell mason
https://tenor.com/view/south-park-drugs-gif-18470707
nuh uh
misty brook
Especially if they bought it
I got one of most expansive ultimate skins from a chest.
arctic talon
So did I
I don’t consider ultimate skins expensive
They’re like what
25$ usd lol?
I’m talking about shit like the jhin chroma
Or the Ahri skin
queen laurel
It’s morally right to make fun of them
Elite wolf when i challenge him not to make fun of someone that has a legendary skin
crystal forum
Elite wolf when i challenge him not to make fun of someone that has a legendary ...
who is this person
arctic talon
Elite wolf when i challenge him not to make fun of someone that has a legendary ...
Legendary skins are 20$
So not really
Lol
queen laurel
who is this person
It's Bricky
arctic talon
Yes
crystal forum
Or CSGO knife skins that cost more then 30$
i won a bayonet doppler worth 400$ at the time
queen laurel
Legendary skins are 20$
$20 for some pixels is expensive for my taste but then again games exist
arctic talon
$20 for some pixels is expensive for my taste but then again games exist
Tbf
It’s normalized
Lol
And not by league
crystal forum
gold isn't any more valuable than pixels
arctic talon
I blame Overwatch and apex
crystal forum
value is bullshit
queen laurel
It’s normalized
Yeah became too normalize
arctic talon
At least in league
queen laurel
Games are way too expensive nowadays
arctic talon
You get a new model + animation rig
- voicelines
- animations
What do you get in apex
Uhh
A new model
queen laurel
What do you get in apex
A new execution and that is it
New model and new execution nothing else
arctic talon
Executions are like 10$ no?
queen laurel
I don't know they are making the battle pass more s***
arctic talon
Lol
queen laurel
That's all i remember
It's really hilarious that right now fortnite is basically not even the worst in the battle pass genre
Even though it basically pioneered the idea
misty brook
I can't wait for Speed Freeks to come out and unleash my inner Speed Boyz.
queen laurel
I can't wait for Speed Freeks to come out and unleash my inner Speed Boyz.
Motha fucka the game is already out
misty brook
Motha fucka the game is already out
It is?
queen laurel
I already unlocked all the vehicles
arctic talon
I find skins in MOBA’s to be better then other games
Because I get to see the skin all game
storm jungle
speaking of Speed Freeks the devs said last week they need to get permission from GW for anything their discord ork bot says
arctic talon
Lol
storm jungle
queen laurel
speaking of Speed Freeks the devs said last week they need to get **permission f...
Ah yeah Nekbrekka
Funny little piece of s***
near wasp
speaking of Speed Freeks the devs said last week they need to get **permission f...
That doesn't sound very orky
shell mason
speaking of Speed Freeks the devs said last week they need to get **permission f...
what
queen laurel
Yeah Nekbrekka
It's a bot that says orky things
Like if you say krump it will say something along the rhymes of
I'm going to crush you or something
misty brook
Look at the steam page
I'Z A STUPID GIT.
queen laurel
speaking of Speed Freeks the devs said last week they need to get **permission f...
Yeah for example if you say the Blood axe it will say
I WUDNT TRUST DIS SNEAKY GIT AZ FAR AZ I CUD FROW 'IM!
There are other keywords for him to trigger other sentences
But yeah gw has the game on tight lockdown
Their practically watching the devs
near wasp
Damn
misty brook
Their practically watching the devs
queen laurel
imagine how bullshit that is in a **racing game**
It's an ork game
You know the type of game
Where freedom is really paramount
storm jungle
corpos wil be corpos
dusk patrol
I’d rather they be overprotective of their game than the alternative
queen laurel
Alas
storm jungle
I’d rather they be overprotective of their game than the alternative
Ah yes the IP
aka a fucking discord bot
near wasp
Pffft
shell mason
Remember
dusk patrol
I don’t really care either way for a silly discord bot but I’d prefer it be one way than the other
shell mason
I mean
dusk patrol
Companies don’t have to use their IP
shell mason
ITS GW
near wasp
My IP with stuff I ripped from a bunch of other settings
celest dome
I think that there is a difference between doing what GW does, and what happened with the Witcher or Halo
Like could they ease up, sure, shoudl they, maybe
But not to an extreme
dusk patrol
I much prefer companies actually care about their IP and keeping some level of consistency and quality than what we had before with all the shit coming out
crystal forum
Companies don’t have to use their IP
they do sometimes and that's the funniest times. when they have deals with other companies that they can only keep their IP's if they do movies or something, that's when you have garbage
storm jungle
Caring about IP does not equal to being annoying.
shell mason
yee
celest dome
They shouldn't go from 1 extreme to the other, but they could ease up
dusk patrol
It does if you want full control
shell mason
if their were like the ultrakill dev tho
queen laurel
If caring ip means practically forcing people to uphold to your rules even though they want to use it for their own creative purposes i will not trust you
forest orbit
thats some corpo bootlick talk tbh
misty brook
Caring about IP does not equal to being annoying.
Unlike everyone else. They didn't retcon everything their IP had like Riot Studios did, because of a tv show.
storm jungle
Unlike everyone else. They didn't retcon everything their IP had like Riot Studi...
Uhhh
whos gonna tell him
dusk patrol
thats some corpo bootlick talk tbh
These are all corporations
forest orbit
forest orbit
These are all corporations
Doesnt matter what they do
they dont need to be this strict
shell mason
Unlike everyone else. They didn't retcon everything their IP had like Riot Studi...
I mean everyone retcons my boi
crystal forum
IP laws are written in favor of large companies, this has been the case since the radio was invented
celest dome
Unlike everyone else. They didn't retcon everything their IP had like Riot Studi...
GW has retconned things quite a few times
dusk patrol
I don’t really care if one corporation is telling another what they can and can’t do with their IP which they don’t have to use
near wasp
I've heard that the 40k show might not be moving forward but those are just rumors
shell mason
You care more than all of us
dusk patrol
And I prefer it to maintain some level of consistency within the franchise
misty brook
I mean everyone retcons my boi
But like has anyone retconned the entire lore base as a whole?
forest orbit
Then stay on track, consistency has nothing to do with policing a discord bot's works lol
celest dome
Tbh I would welcome FS going on a ip-less (more exactly in house Ip) tide game
dusk patrol
Bro you say "i dont care" to everything at this point
Please actually respond to what’s being said
forest orbit
Please actually respond to what’s being said
I am, you are the one parroting stuff
dusk patrol
I said I don’t care if a corporation is telling another what to do
storm jungle
Play nice you two
shell mason
But like has anyone retconned the entire lore base as a whole?
Looks at old 40k books
celest dome
Now kith
shell mason
I mean
near wasp
Quick get the space popcorn
shell mason
alright
arctic talon
But like has anyone retconned the entire lore base as a whole?
All of 1e got sent to hell so I guess?
storm jungle
Im not even gonna participate in this since its the same old shit, stop fighting.
dusk patrol
You’re calling me a corporate shill while you’re just shilling for another corporation
forest orbit
What corporation
shell mason
Just gonna say this
queen laurel
Days since argument related to eternal happened: 0
shell mason
this is really fun to watch
storm jungle
Again. Knock it off.
celest dome
I don't pay attention enough to be able to even say what's the argument is
queen laurel
Honestly at this point i have become numb to it and i just ignore it
raven stone
I look away for a bit, come back, am now lost lol
forest orbit
I got one question, @storm jungle how bad does GW interference get with testing stuff without you over-reacing what you can say
storm jungle
I got one question, <@166943308231344128> how bad does GW interference get with ...
Im simply gonna reply with:
dusk patrol
Days since argument related to eternal happened: 0
If someone’s gonna talk shit and not actually have an argument then yeah I’m gonna respond
storm jungle
If someone’s gonna talk shit and not actually have an argument then yeah I’m gon...
You do the exact same thing half the time.
Again. Stop.
dusk patrol
Where
shell mason
I dont want the timer turned on, can ya'll stop...
storm jungle
You too @forest orbit
queen laurel
Yeah i'm not even going to stay silent you do the exact same thing every time
dusk patrol
Where
celest dome
<:kms:443698221592870912>
NDA
You can't tell people that the new Revolver's special will be shooting yourself in the mouth
dusk patrol
Point to me where I did that here
arctic talon
NDA
You can't tell people that the new Revolver's special will be shooting yours...
Lore accurate
shell mason
.....can we talk about how handsome morty is?
storm jungle
near wasp
<:kms:443698221592870912>
You steal that revolver from rannick?
shell mason
truly a handsome garbage goober
storm jungle
You steal that revolver from rannick?
rn i wish
arctic talon
storm jungle
forest orbit
queen laurel
shell mason
witchfinder please kill me
misty brook
Y'all made it grim.
dusk patrol
No
arctic talon
https://tenor.com/view/arma-put-it-on-your-mouth-suck-it-silencer-gif-16689585
Horrid
dusk patrol
You need to suffer
shell mason
WHY
arctic talon
near wasp
And I thought I was attracted to firearms sweet Emperors mercy
celest dome
https://tenor.com/view/arma-put-it-on-your-mouth-suck-it-silencer-gif-16689585
What is that from ?
For reasons untold and unnecessary
misty brook
What is that from ?
For reasons untold and unnecessary
A movie.
dusk patrol
You know statistically there’s multiple people who have gotten off per day using that technique
shell mason
You know statistically there’s multiple people who have gotten off per day using...
......
eternal
dusk patrol
Also people who have gotten offed
shell mason
Shut the fuck up, then shut the fuck up
near wasp
dusk patrol
Which is an important distinction
raven stone
Anything can be used for...certain purposes...when one is brave or foolish enough.
I saw that XD
shell mason
Sooooo
arctic talon
dusk patrol
Spellcheck had a point
celest dome
You know statistically there’s multiple people who have gotten off per day using...
Yeah, I don't think we really need that distinction to be mentioned
shell mason
Who here is gonna be playing SM 2?
dusk patrol
Probably most
celest dome
nope
dusk patrol
We’re goobers in a Darktide discord
raven stone
Possibly, because friends look interested in it
shell mason
I asking people here
dusk patrol
It looks good, showing it off a month before release was a good move
I expect the servers will have issues
shell mason
who here is hyped for the amount of people getting into the fandom?
near wasp
Not me
dusk patrol
It’s like anything else
shell mason
when the game launches?
arctic talon
I can’t wait for more shitty regurgitated memes
raven stone
Don't care too much about fandom numbers myself
celest dome
Honestly I do not care about new people getting in the Ip
dusk patrol
Some will be annoying some won’t
shell mason
I can’t wait for more shitty regurgitated memes
hey the meme i produce are immaculate
arctic talon
Some will be annoying some won’t
dusk patrol
Lots of new stupid memes
misty brook
We’re goobers in a Darktide discord
near wasp
When stuff balloons in popularity the community gets worse exponentially
queen laurel
Who here is gonna be playing SM 2?
It looks fun but the people will probably be louder than a ork WAAAAAGGHHH
So i will ignore it
dusk patrol
I’m sure Leandros will show up and Grimdank will soy out
shell mason
It looks fun but the people will probably be louder than a ork WAAAAAGGHHH
how so?
near wasp
Please let me kill leondros
raven stone
We are all waiting for that ONE memable line of dialogue SM2 will inevitably have.
shell mason
we talking in game or?
dusk patrol
I don’t expect the story to be that special but I’m sure it’ll be fine, more looking forward to all the stuff being rendered in at the quality it is
queen laurel
I don't even need to say it
misty brook
Apparently Four Space Marines for coop was overkill.
arctic talon
If anyone says the marines are lore accurate in how many nids they kill in SM2 I’m killing myself
Actually Titus is a named character
So he gets a pass
dusk patrol
Too late it canon
queen laurel
I haven't interacted with SM fans sooo
I'm pretty sure they had a riot once because a space marine had black skin color
arctic talon
Too late it canon
misty brook
If anyone says the marines are lore accurate in how many nids they kill in SM2 I...
I mean Cato Sicarus is in there.
queen laurel
I am not going to add further context to that
raven stone
Assuming it is still a thing then.
I am expecting lots of YouTube videos showing "this is how you do Helldivers scheme on SM armour lololololol"
misty brook
And his an ass as ever.
near wasp
The squad mate of a named character get plot armor by proximity
shell mason
I'm pretty sure they had a riot once because a space marine had black skin color
ah racism
dusk patrol
A few YouTubers threw a tantrum and there was some forum posts
dusk patrol
It’s about as serious as any 40k spat
dusk patrol
It goes away in a few days always
queen laurel
They have the triple ist combo
arctic talon
It goes away in a few days always
Yeah this
shell mason
They are also rather sexist and fascist
ah, so 4 chan users
queen laurel
Don’t generalize
It's a common enough pattern what can i say
raven stone
Sadly I am expecting the inevitable Female Space Marines arguments as well.
shell mason
perhaps they've grown up?
misty brook
I'm pretty sure they had a riot once because a space marine had black skin color
That git is an idiot. Salmanders all have black skin.
arctic talon
Either way it’ll be fun as a game prolly
Worst case scenario I just play the single player and that’s it
dusk patrol
That git is an idiot. Salmanders all have black skin.
He was talking about a black ultramarine on a cover and in a book
raven stone
perhaps they've grown up?
There will always be new idiots to replace those who have grown up.
dusk patrol
This was almost ten years ago now
arctic talon
Prolly more
misty brook
He was talking about a black ultramarine on a cover and in a book
I know. But still. Salamanders have the black skin too. And they don't talk about Galadriel the Asian there too.
arctic talon
Lol
dusk patrol
People will always be upset
raven stone
Arch is a thing that I gleefully watched GW hammer down on.
queen laurel
Dark tide literally had a debackle similar to it too
Apparently because the zealot was asian or something
dusk patrol
I know. But still. Salamanders have the black skin too. And they don't talk abou...
Sallies black skin isn’t quite a genetic thing though
queen laurel
Yeah that one is just radiation
dusk patrol
Some are black as we know it naturally and become more black
shell mason
There will always be new idiots to replace those who have grown up.
then they will grow
dusk patrol
But their geneseed has a flaw where the skin remains darkened when it’s exposed to extreme radiation
Which is what nocturne has
Also the red eyes
queen laurel
But their geneseed has a flaw where the skin remains darkened when it’s exposed ...
I thought it was nocturne that give them that skin
dusk patrol
Similar to how most Raven Guard are pale
queen laurel
Not the geneseed
dusk patrol
I thought it was nocturne that give them that skin
It’s a mix of the two
Their geneseed maintains the color once they reach that level
shell mason
I will shoot you right in the geneseed
dusk patrol
For other marines I believe they’d lose the black skin after leaving for long enough
shell mason
that goes hard
dusk patrol
We don’t exactly have examples of this either way though
We just know the Terran Sallies stayed on nocturne for a time to get the skin color and learn the ways of the planet
queen laurel
We just know the Terran Sallies stayed on nocturne for a time to get the skin co...
Does not having the coal black skin not looked well in salamanders?
misty brook
Wait until they make a geneseed that makes every Space Marine Albino as a mutation. Unless they already did.
dusk patrol
We dont see the darkened skin coming up a ton in novels anyways, although sometimes it does
arctic talon
Wait until they make a geneseed that makes every Space Marine Albino as a mutati...
The raven guard geneseed already makes you paler
outer wave
https://tenor.com/view/goofy-goober-spongebob-drunk-gif-18921228
What a great movie
dusk patrol
Does not having the coal black skin not looked well in salamanders?
They recruit only from the planet so it’s not an issue
shell mason
to me the imperium has more to deal with than the color of ones skin, instead if astartes should be controlled by smaller humans is a real question
arctic talon
Literally steals your melanin
dusk patrol
But Vulkan wanted his Terran marines to learn about nocturne
shell mason
But Vulkan wanted his Terran marines to learn about nocturne
where is vulkan now?
near wasp
Literally steals your melanin
No my ability to fight off skin cancer
dusk patrol
And yeah Raven Guards have a couple defective organs
arctic talon
No my ability to fight off skin cancer
Don’t worry you have an organ for that
dusk patrol
where is vulkan now?
We don’t know
near wasp
In the waaagh
shell mason
We don’t know
Dont lie to me Eternal
dusk patrol
Last we saw he “died” fighting a beast
shell mason
Ik yk
misty brook
where is vulkan now?
His probably chilling out on a planet.
dusk patrol
Dont lie to me Eternal
I have him and I won’t give him back
shell mason
~~I have him and I won’t give him back~~
dusk patrol
shell mason
didn't that guy get turned into a hamburger bun?
dusk patrol
Yeah but I wouldn’t
misty brook
Do we know whatever happned to that first Proto Space Marine born from The Emperor's and Erda's Geneseed, Leetu?
shell mason
Do we know whatever happned to that first Proto Space Marine born from The Emper...
.....No
die
dusk patrol
Do we know whatever happned to that first Proto Space Marine born from The Emper...
Nope
He might be still around
misty brook
I'm surprised they haven't made a Space Marine Chapter after him, yet.
misty brook
Yea, but that doesn't stop them from making copies of his geneseed.
And it's been like over ten-thousand plus years as well.
crystal forum
land raiders are cool
@dusk patrol do iron hands normally name their vehicles
i had no idea the proteus was a scout tank lol that's pretty funny
opaque coyote
dusk patrol
<@333173125028249611> do iron hands normally name their vehicles
Yeah they have examples of it
green loom
Hmm
40k animation
Synced to like some 80s club Music
And using the space hulk dance moves
opaque coyote
Yeah they have examples of it
"I call this tank 'Weakness destroyer!'"
"Why's that?"
"BECAUSE IT KILLS THE WEAK."
crystal forum
Yeah they have examples of it
do they do it often though?
or would name be considered too much praise or somethig
opaque coyote
Probably not often.
Maybe if the vehicle lasts long enough
But if it's like
A new Leman Russ or something
They probably don't
crystal forum
alright well this land raider proteus originating from anvilus 9 has not earned its name yet
opaque coyote
Actually would a Leman Russ Tank even be named
Or would it just be named
Leman Russ
crystal forum
guard name their tanks
you see it in stories a lot
i think baneblades even come with custom engraved names from forge world or something
or used to
dusk patrol
do they do it often though?
Generally it’s fairly simple stuff
Let me find some, also once again
They’re not a monolith
So it depends on how you wanna characterize them
Especially during the heresy era
crystal forum
yeah i still have to find a flavor for my iron hand fragment
i want them to have a lot of outdated equipment
since they weren't on istvan
i need to find a reason for why they weren't there
40k iron hands are so based for fighting like it's still 30k
dusk patrol
There’s a lot that weren’t so it’s not a huge deal
crystal forum
if i remember correctly all the ones on istvan died right
dusk patrol
Just off on some other campaign or what not
dusk patrol
if i remember correctly all the ones on istvan died right
A lot did but not all
Most who landed did but they had a lot who didn’t
They were the ones who primarily evacuated the shattered legion survivors off
There was basically two waves, the first with the Raven Guard and Salamanders landed with Ferrus
opaque coyote
They’re not a monolith
There is a none zero percent chance that there is a baneblade named something like
"OrkFucker69" or something
But the problem is that it's in English instead of low/high gothic
So everyone thinks it's some ancient mystical DAoT name
dusk patrol
And the majority of the legion arrived after
storm jungle
There is a none zero percent chance that there is a baneblade named something li...
Guard name their vehicles in a WW2 manner
dusk patrol
A lot died trying to get to the planet
storm jungle
not uh... mid 2000's internet memes
green loom
Le Wokisme
dusk patrol
And roughly 50,000ish or so survived, no hard numbers though
4-5k Raven Guard
Less than 1000 Salamanders
crystal forum
damn
opaque coyote
Guard name their vehicles in a WW2 manner
There is still a non-zero chance that a vehicle was named something other than like
"Black Bess"
dusk patrol
There is a none zero percent chance that there is a baneblade named something li...
For some probably lol
opaque coyote
Or something
opaque coyote
Or "Custodian of Purges"
dusk patrol
Sorry Morragul
crystal forum
do we know what the land crawler things look like
dusk patrol
Kinda yeah one sec
crystal forum
the giant fortresses on medusa
crystal forum
yup i expected it took like those star wars things
storm jungle
Star wars thing?
shell mason
dude....wtf
dusk patrol
Yeah very similar
storm jungle
I mean
dusk patrol
Star wars thing?
Dune Crawlers
crystal forum
im sorry did i trigger the woke crawlers
storm jungle
WHAT
dusk patrol
What did Kenobi mean by “these shots are too accurate for sand people?”
shell mason
ngl
crystal forum
storm jungle
Well he is white
dusk patrol
crystal forum
i prefer air crawler
storm jungle
goofy ahh U.S budget gone to waste
shell mason
Pretty solid
dusk patrol
Well you’re in luck, the Clan Raukaan one can fly into space
crystal forum
fuck yeah
opaque coyote
Pretty solid
Yeah why has that been happening lately
shell mason
Damn it witchfinder stop it
dusk patrol
The others have to be carried up by undefined vehicles
dusk patrol
Common Ogryn win
crystal forum
The others have to be carried up by undefined vehicles
just your average massive ship that would probably be useful in void combat
gotta keep crawling on medusa tho
dusk patrol
just your average massive ship that would probably be useful in void combat
Too small
shell mason
Crys in Veteran Supply Nerf
dusk patrol
But they are described as having Ordinatus level firepower each
So they fuck shit up on the ground
dusk patrol
They don’t like to have them leave Medusa though so it’s not common
crystal forum
do attacks on medusa not last long
dusk patrol
Due to Medusa’s proximity to the Eye they don’t send most of the chapter away except for extreme circumstances
dusk patrol
do attacks on medusa not last long
Generally it’s pretty fierce
crystal forum
as opposed to shitty planets like that blood angel one that is so defenceless without the astartes constantly watching it
dusk patrol
The 10th Black Crusade took awhile iirc
But they also had to work their way through the whole system first
shell mason
But they also had to work their way through the whole system first
chad shit
opaque coyote
The 10th Black Crusade took awhile iirc
Still have no idea how Abaddon managed to organize a bunch of CSMs
13 TIMES
dusk patrol
The 13th Black Crusade I can’t recall if it was that long but it was pretty wild fighting too
shell mason
Still have no idea how Abaddon managed to organize a bunch of CSMs
he got that Rizz
opaque coyote
That takes work since 95% of them are usually interested in their own things
dusk patrol
Typhus’s invasion isn’t really described much
crystal forum
he's got his father's charm
dusk patrol
Still have no idea how Abaddon managed to organize a bunch of CSMs
Mostly it wasn’t that large of groups
shell mason
Typhus’s invasion isn’t really described much
fuck Typhus
crystal forum
horus was the rizzler incarnate
storm jungle
Still have no idea how Abaddon managed to organize a bunch of CSMs
Snowball effect + Promising them shit, its literally herding cats
shell mason
I mean, that's how the Heresy worked
storm jungle
pretty much lol
shell mason
or any battle work rlly
storm jungle
now its just harder to put the band back together but he mostly manages it
crystal forum
it's like herding pissy kids
shell mason
People makes promises, and shady deals in exchange for services
storm jungle
it's like herding pissy kids
just replace Cadia with a Lego shop or something
"go raid it kids"
shell mason
and there you have it
crystal forum
killing guardsmen is like a fidget spinner to them
dusk patrol
The 10th was the Black Legion and the Iron Warriors for example
opaque coyote
Snowball effect + Promising them shit, its literally herding cats
I am now imagining Abaddon at a cat cafe
storm jungle
I am now imagining Abaddon at a cat cafe
no
opaque coyote
Actually imagine famous CSMs as cats
shell mason
killing innocent people and orbital bombarding them *is* pretty funny
True
crystal forum
i dont even find abaddon that evil he just really hates the imperium
shell mason
What's a couple grams of salt compared to a pound
opaque coyote
killing innocent people and orbital bombarding them *is* pretty funny
"Man... I'm so tired.
I better bomb a hive city."
-Average CSM
storm jungle
"Man... I'm so tired.
I better bomb a hive city."
average U.S taxpayer
i mean whoops
shell mason
The I.R.S are watching 👀
crystal forum
it's only tax evasion when you're poor
shell mason
yee
dusk patrol
i dont even find abaddon that evil he just really hates the imperium
He’s pretty evil but arguably he doesn’t in his own twisted way
He just sees himself as the best leader
shell mason
I mean
dusk patrol
And he doesn’t care how he gets there
He sees himself as the only way chaos can be prevented from destroying the galaxy
shell mason
It's not tax evasion if you never paid your taxes to begin with
dusk patrol
He’s definitely evil but he does have a bit more nuance
crystal forum
i feel like he has his own morals even though they're twisted
crystal forum
as opposed to your average murder mcfuckface who wants to just kill for khorne
storm jungle
i feel like he has his own morals even though they're twisted
thats basically almost every main 40k character
storm jungle
you have better luck getting warthunderers to release military blueprints
crystal forum
that's not a very high bar
dusk patrol
you have better luck getting warthunderers to release military blueprints
So it’ll be….easy?
dusk patrol
Ok but it’s easy to get them to lea- hey where’d you get that hamm-
storm jungle
shell mason
I meant its easier to get them to leak stuff you motherFUCKER
what was that?
dusk patrol
Warthunder
shell mason
Ah
raven stone
I have heard stories that in the US
Now an actual security check/vetting question some employers ask, is
“Do you know if [person] plays Warthunder?”
tough haven
dusk patrol
Easy way to separate potential risks lol
gray umbra
When you leak blueprints to prove a point
rose thorn
Holy shit,..
dusk patrol
Yeah it’s the omega symbol upside down
crystal forum
i only now noticed that weapon descriptions are back
rose thorn
the spirit of matt ward watches you
UAVEUACDIAVAHAHAHHA NOOOOOOOO
storm jungle
outer wave
Shes cursed
paper haven
rose thorn
<:peepo_Point:798594362006700033>
Went back to my room and everything was painted blue 
opaque coyote
I thought of like ideas for subclasses similar to Vermintide II
But tbh idk what options would even be there
green loom
I can think of a few prolly
paper haven
7/10 needs a Hellgun.
opaque coyote
I can think of a few prolly
I thought of this
For Veteran, I thought of a Voidsmen as one. They are the armed infantry of the Imperial Navy.
Would allow a couple of unique weapons also
Like I suggested earlier. Rotor Cannons
opaque coyote
For Psykers, I thought of actually have a Blank as a subclass
Ironic since they're anti-psykers
But because Tertium is being infected by warp based viruses and cultists
opaque coyote
So Unsanctioned would be default
green loom
The deal with Wyrdvane is they work in groups to make up for their more meagre psychic power, so kinda good for the whole coherency setup
opaque coyote
Idk what possible classes would be for the Ogyrn.
I guess Bullgyrn could be one?
green loom
Ogryn/bullgryn/gunlugger
opaque coyote
The deal with Wyrdvane is they work in groups to make up for their more meagre p...
I'm guessing Wyrdvane would also focus more on Gun Psyker
"I cast LEAD STORM"
uses auto gun
green loom
Probably
opaque coyote
How is Rinda Karnak Alive
If you prove entertaining enough
The Chaos Gods can revive you
plush mason
elephas the inheritor coming back to plauge the blood ravens not once not twice but 3 seperate times
spark nebula
DAMN YOU NURGLITES FOR ASSOCIATING YOURSELVES WITH POWER SCYTHES
I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO USE A SUPERCHARGED FARM TOOL BECAUSE OF YOU
plush mason
lol
dusk patrol
DAMN YOU NURGLITES FOR ASSOCIATING YOURSELVES WITH POWER SCYTHES
I'LL NEVER BE A...
Good
Power scythes are stupid
spark nebula
Touché
dusk patrol
They do look cool though
dusk patrol
Not wrong
Power scythes my issue is it’s kinda hard to make them like
Move in action without it looking weird
opaque coyote
Honestly
They should be more so
Where are my Chain Power swords?
...
Actually that's technically the eviscerator
dusk patrol
Yeah
queen laurel
Move in action without it looking weird
just go with the blades of chaos approach, just make it move around because it's cool as hell
dusk patrol
Powerfist would be cool
queen laurel
like it doesn't even make sense it moves like that but hey you know fiction
dusk patrol
Yeah have to do something like that
opaque coyote
Power scythes my issue is it’s kinda hard to make them like
It's probably because like
It's mainly used by SMs who are hard to like
Make them move naturally.
This is made worse cause SMs are move and bulky
dusk patrol
It works better for like Mortarion since his is so long and he can do some wild stuff with it flipping around and stuff
opaque coyote
Like part of the reason why transhuman dread is a thing is because logically SMs aren't supposed to be that fast
But they are
dusk patrol
It's probably because like
It's mainly used by SMs who are hard to like
Make t...
There’s a reason we don’t have a terminator class in SM2 I suspect
opaque coyote
Honestly Ik this sounds weird but I do imagine them basically doing anime style movement
If that makes any sense whatsoever
Essentially despite their bulky exterior they are
Fast
dusk patrol
Yeah you kinda have to get a little anime
opaque coyote
And can do shit like flips
Which although ridiculous is fun to imagine
I don't think they are to the level where they like
Walk sideways on walls
queen laurel
There’s a reason we don’t have a terminator class in SM2 I suspect
To be fair they are quite basically valued, and from a gameplay perspective it seems the planet is not that bad yet
opaque coyote
That's Eldar
dusk patrol
To be fair they are quite basically valued, and from a gameplay perspective it s...
Based off Leaks it seems that ||Calgar might be on world too||
opaque coyote
To be fair they are quite basically valued, and from a gameplay perspective it s...
Also Terminator Armor is specifically made to be slow.
Like it's supposed to be so armored that it literally slows SMs down to normal speeds
Usually
Of course some big boys and heroes use it like regular due to their sheer SIZE
queen laurel
Also Terminator Armor is specifically made to be slow.
Like it's supposed to be...
Yeah it would be better if it's an objective where a space marine can use it for a short amount of time or something
Like the old Dreadnought in space marine one
for the multiplayer
that or they could just straight up bring back the dreadnought
dusk patrol
Always room to add stuff later too if it really is successful
Idk if there’s any plans for that classes wise
I kinda hope we get a Chaplain/Techmarine
Maybe Librarian and Apothecary
queen laurel
Always room to add stuff later too if it really is successful
if we're going to look at it from a warhammer only or people with an idea of what warhammer is it would be pretty substantial
people know space marines the most
a good chunk of this fucking fan base are space marines
queen laurel
Where’s my suppressors Sabre
the **** is that a Bolt cannon
queen laurel
All of the cannon
do other forces of the imperial guard use it
dusk patrol
“Suppressing fire” has never been meaner
dusk patrol
do other forces of the imperial guard use it
Not that I’m aware yet, but it doesn’t mean they don’t, the only other example is on the Sicaran currently
queen laurel
Not that I’m aware yet, but it doesn’t mean they don’t, the only other example i...
nice
dusk patrol
“Fuck light armor”
Sicarans are quite strong in the current heresy meta I think too
Suppressors unfortunately are not
For 40k
queen laurel
Where’s my suppressors Sabre
wait do Auto cannons usually pack more punch than a bolter
dusk patrol
wait do Auto cannons usually pack more punch than a bolter
Significantly
Accelerator autocannons send the rounds down range faster and at a higher rof which makes them a bit meaner
queen laurel
Accelerator autocannons send the rounds down range faster and at a higher rof wh...
yeah i was confused why he isn't just using the heavy bolter
dusk patrol
But yeah autocannons are ideal weapons to kill most light armored targets and even some heavier armor
To give an idea, heat bolters do typically 1d10+12 pen of 5 damage in the 40k RPGs, while autocannons typically do like 3d10+8 with a pen of 6 damage.
Sometimes more or less for both depending
And autocannons tend to have a lower rate of fire
But still, gives you can idea. You can easily pierce the armor of most vehicles with the autocannon barring the highest tier
crystal forum
so sicaran or predator
dusk patrol
Predator is generally gonna be the better option
Basically always for its cost and role
crystal forum
support or standard
dusk patrol
Could do either
Iron Hands have very tanky infantry and that’s kinda their deal so you could build around that
Or just take advantage of the tankiness of your infantry and use the predators for more firepower
opaque coyote
“Suppressing fire” has never been meaner
Auto Cannons are pretty cool
But they're also about as portable as carrying a fucking table
dusk patrol
Yeah not easy to lug around or fire for most
opaque coyote
Bolters are more portable
Not for a human being, but for a gene spliced warrior definitely
I think it's implied they were used often in the DAot as well
With the Votann also having them
So maybe the Lasgun was the equivalent of like
A hunting/civilian rifle for colonists and citizens
While the Bolter was used for actual wars.
dusk patrol
@crystal forum basically it depends on what weapons you wanna use
opaque coyote
But Old Night sort of made it so that nobody could really use bolters anymore
dusk patrol
Support Predator has more of the exotic stuff generally speaking
opaque coyote
But then again the DAoT is a mystery so we can't know
crystal forum
i will get the large weapons
i will punish my foes with weapons beyond their understanding
opaque coyote
i will get the large weapons
"If it doesn't Vaporize your shoulder, it is not a real weapon"
- random SM from an unknown chapter
dusk patrol
lol well that settles it
My personal favorite is the fellblade but it’s not an amazing option and fuck me is it a huge piece of plastic
fallen plaza
i can print the fellblade
Isnt there a rule in heresy 2.0 where you can use any Lord of war from any faction as that is on your side
So you could equip a lot of non sm stuff
Like a stormhammer
dusk patrol
@crystal forum also I believe there’s some pretty good prints for upscale Gorgon termies out there if you wanted to try to make some. I haven’t seen them done myself but I’ve heard people say they work pretty well.
fallen plaza
<@334401214437654531> also I believe there’s some pretty good prints for upscale...
You got any links to them you can share?
dusk patrol
You got any links to them you can share?
I’ll try to find them if I can, Google isn’t being helpful rn
opaque coyote
I will now read
”How to construct a Terran pattern cinder block” Vol. 1/3780
Chapter 1/5000
dusk patrol
He wasn’t even done with the Polynesian Wars when they tapped
fallen plaza
Even the chaos gods find him boring
opaque coyote
Also unfortunately I think TTS has permanently solidified Magnus's and Dorn's voice in my head
opaque coyote
Whenever I read the books I just hear Zegram's voice
opaque coyote
Seek forgiveness
Nah, Chaos 4 lyfe
Time to use a spine as a whip and grow a bunch of spikes
Seriously why are most of the chaos mutations spikes?
It seems like a prequisite tbh
storm jungle
Seriously why are most of the chaos mutations spikes?
looks good in art
opaque coyote
"To worship chaos, you must get more spikes"
storm jungle
the 9th codex also says the mutations they get just happen based on the marines themselves and how it warps their bodies to a degree
opaque coyote
looks good in art
Fair
Really annoying to try and walk in a crowd tho
But that goes for space marines in general
Especially since their armor is usually fused to their body.
Doorways must be even more annoying for CSMs lmao