We’re always badass
#40k-lore-chat
dusk patrol
crystal forum
fun fact most maple syrup is produced in my part of canada so the rest of canada needs to stop taking credit 😤
dusk patrol
Even in Korea war propaganda we kick ass.
dusk patrol
fun fact most maple syrup is produced in my part of canada so the rest of canada...
Confession from me: I don’t care for maple syrup
I like maple syrup tasting things
crystal forum
are you from the south perchance
rocky gale
With a simple head swap she’s the perfect Drukhari Archon
dusk patrol
With a simple head swap she’s the perfect Drukhari Archon
Even worse
crystal forum
so you have tasted actual maple syrup and not that aunt jamaima shit right
dusk patrol
I have
gray umbra
lol aunt jamaima
dusk patrol
Multiple types
winter vessel
Used to read a lot on the Korean War, learning the accounts of the Chosin Reservoir was like a horror story
dusk patrol
Used to read a lot on the Korean War, learning the accounts of the Chosin Reserv...
That shits wild
Absolutely horrific
gray umbra
what are the others
crystal forum
lower grades
gray umbra
tell me of the northland
crystal forum
they didnt score well in their exams
crystal forum
tell me of the northland
everything costs more to us but looks cheaper to you
dusk patrol
Blueberry Maple Syrup is good though
Maine Blueberry
We have family up there that sends us some
Everything in Maine is lobster, blueberry, or moose themed
viral halo
Used to read a lot on the Korean War, learning the accounts of the Chosin Reserv...
if I was there it would have gone a lot differently
crystal forum
maine is pretty based and im not just saying this as a stephen king fan
dusk patrol
if I was there it would have gone a lot differently
Why didn’t the Frozen Chosin just bring space heaters, were they stupid?
viral halo
Why didn’t the Frozen Chosin just bring space heaters, were they stupid?
Literally
dusk patrol
Couldn’t be me
viral halo
maintain a 10.0 KD
dusk patrol
Tbf they all probably had that by the end
Literally stacking bodies as cover holy fuck
crystal forum
tell me of the northland
when you go really north you go into the minecraft farlands
winter vessel
if I was there it would have gone a lot differently
there's a neat little animation short that depicts the battle ."Chosin: Baptized by Fire"
viral halo
Tbf they all probably had that by the end
I had a teacher in hs who fought at iwo jima and chosin
ancient NYC jewish guy
crystal forum
i took that picture if you're wondering
dusk patrol
That’s some shit luck
viral halo
dude would have PTSD moments everytime it was super cold out
gray umbra
very nice
crystal forum
that's the hudson bay right there
viral halo
im stuck in the urban hellscape of nyc
I live in NJ
Let's meet up and kill eternal reward with hammers
winter vessel
when you go really north you go into the minecraft farlands
I kinda like setting up my home in the Mountain Biome
dusk patrol
Imagine surviving one of the worst tropical environments battles of WWII Iwo Jima and then surviving the worst frozen climate battle of the Korean War
Dear god
storm jungle
"frozen climate"
dusk patrol
Tundra or whatever
dusk patrol
I don’t care
crystal forum
nuclear deterrence
viral halo
add nuclear winter to that if the president approved of it
Should've turned it all to glass
storm jungle
I love how much people like
goofy at imperial army characters
then you got McArthur
going
"we should send 34 nukes to the border"
winter vessel
Imagine surviving one of the worst tropical environments battles of WWII Iwo Jim...
If I remember correctly, living in the Philippines, we had a family friend whose father was a vet of the Korean War
gray umbra
Let's meet up and kill eternal reward with hammers
all i got is this nyc approved 4" not a gravity knife
dusk patrol
People really don’t get how wild the Korea war was, it’s actually a crime it’s not more well known
viral halo
all i got is this nyc approved 4" not a gravity knife
just let the NYPD know, you're fucking done for buddy. They won't address all the rapes and gang violence but they'll smoke you for your knife.
dusk patrol
It was horrific and had some crazy offensives and battles going on
crystal forum
generals are really good at doing war. it's why you dont elect one as president
OH WAIT NO EISENHOWER
dusk patrol
How close the South was to being lost
dusk patrol
generals are really good at doing war. it's why you dont elect one as president
...
Grant
Washington
viral halo
generals are really good at doing war. it's why you dont elect one as president
...
Eisenhower was a good president
crystal forum
eisenhower nooo dont turn the US into a fascist propaganda machine
viral halo
Built the highway systems
dusk patrol
What
crystal forum
was a bit too anti commie
dusk patrol
Also he was named Ike which was a big victory for other poor shmucks named Ike
winter vessel
People really don’t get how wild the Korea war was, it’s actually a crime it’s n...
agreed. people can make their statements on the war with Nam. but Korea? it really earns the title of the Forgotten War.
gray umbra
just let the NYPD know, you're fucking done for buddy. They won't address all th...
its okay, they're going after me for lifting my helmet visor in 90 degree weather instead of going after the cagers performing moving violations every other lane switch
crystal forum
jailing people for voicing their opinion how noble
crystal forum
"it's only good when it's people i dislike" type shit
viral halo
dusk patrol
jailing people for voicing their opinion how noble
I don’t agreed with that but it’s also a lot more complex than that too
Like rarely were people jailed just for that
Just black listed
viral halo
"it's only good when it's people i dislike" type shit
Having a sect of people in the US dedicated to sabotaging the system established for protection of the free world is a danger to the country and therefore the world
dusk patrol
And there was a huge espionage issue with the Russians in our government
viral halo
And our education system
crystal forum
source: US government
storm jungle
more like
shell mason
fuck today was a long day
viral halo
source: US government
Yuri Beremezov KGB
storm jungle
source: this dude that totally committed "suicide" in his garage
viral halo
Look it up
dusk patrol
We literally have Russian documents on this stuff
gray umbra
"wow he just died thats craaazy"
viral halo
The last spies were caught in NJ btw 💪
dusk patrol
A lot of this stuff isn’t a secret anymore
storm jungle
I like how when its shit like Boeing
people literally entirely know
but we cant do anything about it
lmao
"damn that sucks"
dusk patrol
Gotta prove it still
shell mason
.....
gray umbra
hearts and prayers!
shell mason
do it
storm jungle
shell mason
welcome it even
shell mason
brother
viral halo
Was in mexico a few weeks ago and the plane there sounded like a lawnmower that was about to explode
I HATE FLYING
I HATE FLYING
storm jungle
9/11 time
shell mason
you act like I know what any of that even means
storm jungle
wooooooo
dusk patrol
If we were supposed to fly we would have been born with wings
gray umbra
i have to travel for work and people dont understand why i dont like being trapped in a flying tube for 4-6 hours
"but you get to see the country"
shell mason
my mind is literally wait a hour
shell mason
go to the gym
gray umbra
meanwhile im mentally dying when i land and want to sleep
shell mason
go home
dusk patrol
But Jackit statistically it won’t plummet out of the sky and kill everyone!
shell mason
crash in my bed after shower
dusk patrol
Did you know cars are less safe?!
winter vessel
i have to travel for work and people dont understand why i dont like being trapp...
I'd rather have one straight flight then having to hop between, it just feels tedious to me
dusk patrol
Why doesn’t this make you feel better!
gray umbra
i refuse to do layover flights
crystal forum
you people fly?
shell mason
is yours
crystal forum
in this economy?
shell mason
410 dollars for a roundabout flight
crystal forum
to where? your sofa?
gray umbra
if i have to take a personal flight i go american spirit and hate my life but deal with it because the tickets are not like 800 dollars
shell mason
no two states away
viral halo
you people fly?
Mexico three weeks ago, Jamaica in April, Boston in November
winter vessel
if i have to take a personal flight i go american spirit and hate my life but de...
I usually do Southwest
crystal forum
must be nice
crystal forum
first class i bet
viral halo
Delta is currently being investigated by the fed
shell mason
good shit
crystal forum
i like their blue chips
most expensive flight i was on was 3000$
company paid for it
it was a shorter flight than going to florida
crystal forum
must be nice
viral halo
first class i bet
Flying first class is worth it everytime unless it's priced like ridiculously
I always gotta do lounge access though
Lounge access is goated
crystal forum
i started actually taking care of my skin and i now understand how expensive it must be to be a woman
like holy shit
viral halo
ya when my gf tells me about her shit im like wtf
not tryna spend a band on skincare shit
I wash my face in the sinkbowl before going to bed
winter vessel
thought that said "skinbowl"
crystal forum
that's where he leaves the skin of his enemies
crystal forum
there's certain perks to my working environment
ever feel like throwing around a machine worth more than your car?
that's what im doing rn
viral halo
I want to win the lottery and retire
winter vessel
my perk is that it's a 10 min drive from where I live.
crystal forum
im jealous
viral halo
Same, my office is a 4 minute drive from my house and 6 minutes from my gym
winter vessel
parking can be a B since I work delivering orders in Retail
crystal forum
look im touching the nob
im touching it
i dont know what it does but im touching it
winter vessel
look im touching the nob
me in my store's breakroom: bout to do something malicious
crystal forum
you know something's expensive when their website just tells you to ask for a quote instead of giving you a price
crystal forum
nah it's more like we know we're one of your only two options for this very specific application so let us give you the sales pitch
gray umbra
Oh my favorite
crystal forum
(we know you'll buy it anyways)
gray umbra
We will give u a 20 percent discount
BUT
Youre locked in with us for 2 years
And by the time its over, you will be so reliant on us that its impossible to transition to a competitors platform
Also our support sucks
crystal forum
the manual tells you how to take the whole thing apart lol
god i wish companies gave half of a shit about consumers as they give about other companies
gray umbra
You mean other companies that buy their goods/services?
crystal forum
yeah
gray umbra
From my experience its about the same
crystal forum
that's the only time you get quality service, when they expect you to come buying more stuff
gray umbra
Only difference is your company can afford an account manager that you can harrass until shit gets done
crystal forum
yep
my company makes completely custom parts
so it's like the opposite
whatever the customer wants we do
had a company nearly stop a purchase after the parts we made for them were done because one of their hundreds of engineers raised a flag that our testing procedures weren't good.... after they gave us the entire procedure and we went through the process of testing the parts
gray umbra
Ah yes
crystal forum
guy wasn't even in a field related to what we do
crystal forum
that's literally what happened 
"these standards aren't good"
"mfer you approved them and we're about to ship them"
gray umbra
Its pretty close to IT MSP work.
You do ridiculous things to make the client happy and then when it blows up in their face its pikachuface
crystal forum
i wouldn't be able to mentally cope with being IT
i can't stand customer interaction
(also IT people are annoying)
crisp heath
I love talking to people honestly
HOWEVER
Gotta be face to face, hate over the phone calls with people
I’m super extroverted in person it just doesn’t work as well over the phone I feel
crystal forum
it's the opposite for me lol i love making weird faces on calls to make myself less socially anxious
gray umbra
Depends on what you want to do in IT
Went from being underpaid at a MSP to working in house for a private equity firm. Good benefits but it has its own share of problems
I spend most time doing project work but get stuck having to babysit people
And keep a straight face while this guy tries to convince me that layoffs are good for the employees
crystal forum
my sister is an accountant and yeah i've heard of those "finance bros"
being a woman in that environment is not fun
gray umbra
I interviewed for a hedge fund and looked into them
Currently undergoing a lawsuit because of sexual harrassment of a receptionist by the ceo
crystal forum
that's awful
thankfully my sister doesnt take shit from anybody but my candy ass would suffer there
gray umbra
I only stuck with the interviews for a higher salary. Only reason i failed was because they asked me this weird esoteric question about if i would save a person over my dog in a life or death situation
No hesitation i said my dog
These people are real out of touch
rocky gale
TBH if an interviewer asked that question I'd probably just say "Will this position force me to make such a decision on a regular basis?"
crystal forum
they're always looking for your thought process with these sorts of questions
they dont want a straight answer
rocky gale
My thought process is they should get better questions
The people who interview you for jobs are the fucking worst
I once got turned down after an interview and when I asked for feedback on where I went wrong I was told that it was because I blink too much
crystal forum
im surprised they gave you feedback at all
it's all down to gut feeling and shit. if you're neurodivergent and you act "off" then you got like 5 extra months of job searching to do
rocky gale
Yea it's the only time I've been given feedback unfortunately it was useless
crystal forum
im lucky my job required manual tests since i can do those with ease lol
arctic talon
Interviewers fucking suck
crystal forum
my boss flat out told me months after i got hired that i did not look interested at all during the interviews and the only thing that got me hired was the manual stuff they made me do
guess if you're depressed you're just fucked
crystal forum
Interviewers fucking suck
it must especially suck in the software world i bet
of course all of this goes away when you get enough experience 
crystal forum
do iron hands tend to use fancy mechanicum weapons
where's eternal when you need him
storm jungle
Best to ping him and see
outer wave
@dusk patrol Jay has a question for ya
opaque coyote
do iron hands tend to use fancy mechanicum weapons
Genuine question
Can Iron Hands have Gunhands
Or like attach Grenadier gauntlets on their arms
Like pull some cyberpunk type shit
Imagine some random Ork goes to attack them and they throw an exploding punch
Boom boom boom
crystal forum
Best to ping him and see
i am afraid
crystal forum
he keeps putting his foot up my ass and i dont know how much he enjoys it
shell mason
back from gym
opaque coyote
Imagine their pauldrons unravel and they start shooting missiles
opaque coyote
he keeps putting his foot up my ass and i dont know how much he enjoys it
Very
Why do you think the Iron Hands fell to Slaanesh
crystal forum
they did?
opaque coyote
they did?
Half of them actually did yeah
Mainly due to their pursuit of a perfect body
crystal forum
i dont know anything about iron hands and i prefer to drip feed myself information about it so i can prolong the learning experience
crystal forum
and im probably painting an iron hands army for my HH stiff
opaque coyote
I mean perfect in fucking murdering and protecting themselves
crystal forum
since all the other chapters suck
opaque coyote
This recent btw
crystal forum
oh im thinking HH era
crystal forum
i know they have a considerable amount of equipment which is why i want them
arctic talon
all of the shattered legions would probably use
whatever the fuck they could
They were horribly mauled
by the dropsite massacare
crystal forum
how many legions were shattered
arctic talon
3
crystal forum
the loyalist ones
arctic talon
Raven Guard, Iron Hands, Salamanders
crystal forum
oh so the non main characters
arctic talon
The Raven Guard were decimated(literally)
The Iron Hands came out with pretty horrid casulties to their veterans
Salamanders were pretty much dead as a legion
opaque coyote
so the entirety of the HH era
Basically, before the Siege of Terra. A group of Iron Fathers (the guiding voice and engineer mystics of the Iron Hands). Attempted to resurrect Ferrus.
crystal forum
yes i know about the funny ferus revivals
opaque coyote
yes i know about the funny ferus revivals
The Cult of the Gorgon somehow acquired one of the metallic arms of Ferrus and attached it to a heavily armored and cloaked mechanical puppet
...
crystal forum
and how GW keeps hinting he'll come back for some reason
opaque coyote
Yeah it wasn't really a resurrection or even a clone
opaque coyote
It was a bunch of desperate sons looking for any sign of their father
crystal forum
he'll come back
like, why
opaque coyote
Basically creating a robot just so that they can have sometjing
crystal forum
you said he'll come back
opaque coyote
Of course, it didn't have Ferrus's mind
crystal forum
i wish he had more lore before he died
crystal forum
he isn't being hinted, he's for sure coming back
crystal forum
opaque coyote
"He isn't being hinted that he will come back"
opaque coyote
"He is dead as shit"
opaque coyote
his head
We don't know what happened to it
A Daemon mocked an iron hand saying it's still screaming in agont
opaque coyote
But it's most likely just
arctic talon
either that or the Demon is being a dick
opaque coyote
Rotted away lmao
arctic talon
his heads already a skull
opaque coyote
The Daemon was 100% lying
opaque coyote
It's a fucking daemon
arctic talon
Its a daemon of slaanesh
opaque coyote
Yup
Still capable of lying
In fact the only ones that aren't are Khornate ones
They'll just stab you
arctic talon
Tbf
opaque coyote
crystal forum
they lie and stab
opaque coyote
and GW is not above this
But yeah, I do agree.
But he's on the bottom of the "revive" list
Like
opaque coyote
They're more likely to revive either Sanguinius or Horus than Ferrus
arctic talon
GW doesn't really do
stupid resurections
generally
emphesis on generally
They haven't done something that stupid yet
crystal forum
every primarch resurection is stupid since they shouldn't have left in the first place if GW wanted to use them
opaque coyote
But yeah generally Ferrus isn't coming alive anytime soon.
A clone at best but Fulgrim is probably not making any more and Fabius is busy with other shit now
And also Clone Fulgrim is stuck in Trazyn's tube
crystal forum
the idea of primarchs abandoning humanity is just stupid af
arctic talon
every primarch resurection is stupid since they shouldn't have left in the first...
They haven't revived a primarch beyond the
Deus Ex Emperor moment
in dark imperium
opaque coyote
Deus Ex Emperor moment
Tbh Gulliman is probably my favorite due to his post resurrection character
arctic talon
Also I guess he did actually fucking die
opaque coyote
he was like on deaths door
He did die for a bit
crystal forum
who's next you think
arctic talon
but Eldar God helped revive him
crystal forum
dorn?
opaque coyote
Russ
arctic talon
Its 100% Russ
opaque coyote
the idea of primarchs abandoning humanity is just stupid af
Tbf Gulliman during the Heresy thought of just fucking off
arctic talon
I think he'd probably blow his brains out on the spot
opaque coyote
And Vulkan is a bleeding heart tbh
crystal forum
every primarch contributed to its demise in one way or another
arctic talon
yep!
crystal forum
fuck them all
arctic talon
LOL
opaque coyote
every primarch contributed to its demise in one way or another
Basically
Khan got trapped in the webway
Russ went into the warp to try and find something to revive the Emperor
opaque coyote
Dorn might be dead
crystal forum
i know
arctic talon
Corax is busy harassing people in the Eye™️
crystal forum
i thought corax died
crystal forum
good
arctic talon
Well
crystal forum
fuck lorgar
arctic talon
he harassed Lorgar
for like a while
but then he stopped doing that
and now the Word Bearers have a legend about being isolated
and being murdered by Corax lol
sick escarp
What exactly is sefoni? Sorry to butt in but I know next to nothing about 40K
crystal forum
and being murdered by Corax lol
did he really sneak into a chaos planet and murder a ton of word bearers
arctic talon
No
crystal forum
awww
arctic talon
he specifically goes after isolated groups
the most horrifying thing he did
was break into Lorgars "house"
and beat the shit out of him
before he fucked off
crystal forum
why didnt he kill him
opaque coyote
he specifically goes after isolated groups
It would be funny if Russ was like
"well that was a fun 10 hour adventure but I found the frui-"
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S BEEN 10,000 YEARS??"
arctic talon
Because Lorgar managed to fight Corax off
crystal forum
bruh
crystal forum
how does one even sneak around a chaos planet
crystal forum
oh
arctic talon
Corax is a psyker
opaque coyote
how does one even sneak around a chaos planet
Hiding with the screams of the damned
opaque coyote
Like a Daemon Planet is probably loud let's be fair here
arctic talon
he can turn into this weird shadowy raven creature
opaque coyote
Probably a lot of screaming
sick escarp
around Beta to Alpha level
For reference, what level is a player psyker?
crystal forum
i hope he comes back and contributes to humanity instead of jacking himself off
like you're a primarch ffs do primarch stuff
opaque coyote
i hope he comes back and contributes to humanity instead of jacking himself off
I think Lion is actually trying to come back
But he's only got one book so far so
Yeah
arctic talon
For reference, what level is a player psyker?
Somewhere between Iota to Zeta range
the full scale is
crystal forum
fuck the power scale
storm jungle
For reference, what level is a player psyker?
also for further reference
arctic talon
yeah that
sick escarp
Huh, so we’re not that pathetic, noted
opaque coyote
try to apply the scale to a 40k book
Alpha Plus basically can do anything
Living breathing gods
So basically the Emperor
And
...
The Emperor
crystal forum
The Emperor
soul drinkers fight an alpha plus actually at one point
sick escarp
What is sefoni contained in? Because if she’s supposed to be super strong how is she contained
crystal forum
wanna learn about soul drinkers? 
green loom
What is sefoni contained in? Because if she’s supposed to be super strong how is...
Prayer and hope that she's entertained/content enough to not bother breaking out
opaque coyote
soul drinkers fight an alpha plus actually at one point
Alpha Plus do exist
They just usually go insane
green loom
And explode
sick escarp
Prayer and hope that she's entertained/content enough to not bother breaking out
Understandable lol
green loom
Violently
arctic talon
What is sefoni contained in? Because if she’s supposed to be super strong how is...
She's got some shackles, some basic warding, and a tube
she's ostensibly loyal
so there's no reason to like
crystal forum
he wasn't insane he was just trying to become a chaos god. he also wasn't a human but a mechanicus experiment
sick escarp
I wouldn’t say she’s loyal due to some of the weirdness she says
opaque coyote
There was also the story of an alpha Plus child who accidentally got the black ship he was on frozen in the warp.
Ended up seeing the Chaos Gods betting for his soul, said "fuck this", and detonated his own soul while freeing the ship he was on
All in the span of like
A second
sick escarp
I wouldn’t say she’s loyal due to some of the weirdness she says
And that she’s promised playthings to keep herself entertained
arctic talon
yeah well
thats about normal lol
High level psykers in service to the imperium generally get treated decently/well
especially since Grendyl is like
probably a radical lol
opaque coyote
he wasn't insane he was just trying to become a chaos god. he also wasn't a huma...
So... Insane got it
Who TF would want to become a Chaos God
crystal forum
no he was actually succeeding
opaque coyote
crystal forum
he could literally control the body of every human in an entire solar system
like zombies
crystal forum
and there were hive cities and shit
sick escarp
even if she's kind of derranged
“Kind of” seems like a understatement
arctic talon
I mean
she's pretty sane
for an alpha level psyker lol
most of them are uh not okay mentally
crystal forum
he literally loads a battleship full of zombies and crashes it into the planet that soul drinkers are on just to fight them
green loom
I wouldn’t say she’s loyal due to some of the weirdness she says
High level/long time inquisition mooks tend to get pretty jaded/critical of the Chimperium, Grendyl/Rannick seem pretty chill with that prospect overall
opaque coyote
High level psykers in service to the imperium generally get treated decently/wel...
Yeah generally Psykers who are skilled get treated well.
arctic talon
but a lot of alpha level psykers really really aren't okay lol
Sefoni doesn't randomly start screaming about the future
or visions
opaque coyote
but a lot of alpha level psykers really really aren't okay lol
Basically their souls are like a light house in the warp
crystal forum
this is why psykers get no bitches
arctic talon
also she's like very good at like maintaining the Psykanum
opaque coyote
The only reason why Emps is the only stable Alpha Plus is because he probably had plenty of time to acclimate because he's old
arctic talon
considering she hasn't periled yet lol
opaque coyote
And Malcador
crystal forum
The only reason why Emps is the only stable Alpha Plus is because he probably ha...
and because he's hardly human lol
arctic talon
Magnus, big E, Malc
crystal forum
human in concept
arctic talon
they're all off the scale
Either way I do wonder what Sefoni's actual job is
because she clearly isn't just running the psykanum
opaque coyote
and because he's hardly human lol
Yeah old lore basically had him throw away his empathy so that he could actually go through with his plan
crystal forum
beyond reading peoples memories
not getting bitches
arctic talon
beyond usual human functions lol
I mean yeah
she's in a tube
mostly? I think? naked
opaque coyote
Idk maybe she plays mind poker with the other psykers
sick escarp
What exactly is the warp? And warp predators?
crystal forum
and her enginseer "friend"
opaque coyote
What exactly is the warp? And warp predators?
Basically the Realm of Souls
Every thought, emotion, etc. goes to there
So of course it is fucked
sick escarp
Huh, that actually sounds very interesting, never heard of a realm like that
crystal forum
i never even tried explaining the warp
opaque coyote
Warp Predators are basically just Daemons trying to get into your mind to slurp up your soul
crystal forum
it just is
sick escarp
Warp Predators are basically just Daemons trying to get into your mind to slurp ...
So daemon hosts mainly?
arctic talon
Daemon hosts are a daemon shoved into a victim
and the daemon can manifest via that
crystal forum
things beyond our comprehension
opaque coyote
Just Daemons.
Daemonhosts are when a Daemon gets shoved into somebody
sick escarp
Oh, alright
crystal forum
the warp is purposefully indescribable
arctic talon
The beast of nurgle for example is a daemonic creature
the daemon hosts most likely have a plague bearer shoved into them
opaque coyote
the warp is purposefully indescribable
Also there are potentially realms even the Chaos Gods refuse to go to
arctic talon
opaque coyote
So have fun with that thought
sick escarp
The beasts of nurgle and plague ogryns are the only two monsters I know because both come from nurgle
crystal forum
it's just utter madness and demons arent even the only things there
arctic talon
Plague Ogryns are actually just really fucked up mutated Ogryns
my favorite warp preadtor
is the uh
bee
crystal forum
there's warp beasts that we'll never learn about. all we'll know is a ship went into the warp and came out as a piece of junk
storm jungle
Psychnenuin? Or however you spell it
arctic talon
and they crawl into your mind through the warp
sick escarp
Makes sense
arctic talon
before laying the eggs
opaque coyote
The beasts of nurgle and plague ogryns are the only two monsters I know because ...
There are a lot of Daemons
Daemons are actually the shards of Chaos Gods with their own personalities, intelligence, and motive
crystal forum
the only ones able to see the warp correctly are navigators
arctic talon
creatura
sick escarp
there's warp beasts that we'll never learn about. all we'll know is a ship went ...
A ship went into the warp? Huh
opaque coyote
Also if you die, your soul just disappears into the warp. Like a drop in the ocean.
If you're a psyker and you die, you get eaten by daemons, be excruciating pain, and then die.
arctic talon
Ships go into the warp for FTL
sick escarp
the only ones able to see the warp correctly are navigators
Is that a machine or person? Or both
arctic talon
3 eyed people
crystal forum
A ship went *into* the warp? Huh
yes there is no hyperdrive or whatever in 40k
storm jungle
creatura
I legit hate Liber Xenologis ngl, mfers say these are Warp creatures and draw the most generic ahh looking monsters for artistic representation 
crystal forum
the warp is how ships go faster than light
opaque coyote
yes there is no hyperdrive or whatever in 40k
Unless if you're a necron
crystal forum
shush
sick escarp
yes there is no hyperdrive or whatever in 40k
I thought they went into their hell not the warp
sick escarp
I thought they went into their hell not the warp
That’s what I’ve been told
crystal forum
that's the warp
opaque coyote
I thought they went into their hell not the warp
Nope that's the warp
The warp is hell
sick escarp
I expected the warp to be more blue in color
crystal forum
it's not a colour
sick escarp
I don’t know why
arctic talon
its represnted as being somewhat like this vaguely in some art
opaque coyote
I expected the warp to be more blue in color
Basically, remember how I told you that the warp is a realm every thought an emotion goes to?
sick escarp
I’ve seen some videos that describe the warp and one had it looking like a firery hell
crystal forum
it can be many things
opaque coyote
Yeah
sick escarp
Basically, remember how I told you that the warp is a realm every thought an emo...
Yeah, so just a jumbled mess of everything?
arctic talon
I legit hate Liber Xenologis ngl, mfers say these are Warp creatures and draw th...
Crotalids are crocodiles who might travel through the warp
sick escarp
Makes sense
crystal forum
navigators see the warp as a giant ocean with currents and everything
opaque coyote
before the uh
War in Heaven fucked it up
Then the Eldar fucked it up
And now humanity is fucking it up
sick escarp
I might get shot for this, but is every problem due to the god emperor? I feel like that’s the case
arctic talon
crystal forum
but psykers see the warp differently too
arctic talon
I might get shot for this, but is every problem due to the god emperor? I feel l...
No not really
The Emperor is responsible for like
opaque coyote
navigators see the warp as a giant ocean with currents and everything
Except the warp also has giant sea monsters
crystal forum
the warp has no single representation
sick escarp
Really? Surprising
arctic talon
3 big problems lol
sick escarp
3 big problems lol
“3”? Now I’m more surprised
storm jungle
the Emperor basically is mostly responsible for the state humanity is in, not the wider galaxy.
arctic talon
Chaos having so many prominent servants nowadays, The Imperium, Most Xenos being incredibly aggresive
opaque coyote
I might get shot for this, but is every problem due to the god emperor? I feel l...
No.
He was trying to solve them actually
But he failed so miserably that he made it worse
arctic talon
because they either got radicalized by the great crusade
storm jungle
the modern Imperium is more or less his fault
arctic talon
or they were evil in the first place
crystal forum
fuck the emperor
sick escarp
So what exactly are Xeno’s? I heard someone theorize swagger in the game is one and he couldn’t add more detail due to lack of mic and being on console
arctic talon
Xenos are uh Aliens
crystal forum
aliens
opaque coyote
So what exactly are Xeno’s? I heard someone theorize swagger in the game is one ...
Aliens
Yeah that's it
Just alien species
crystal forum
greek for "other" or something
opaque coyote
From Tau to Tyranids to Orks
storm jungle
yeah its greek for "other/stranger"
opaque coyote
They're all Xenos
sick escarp
Alright, so just wliens
storm jungle
pretty much
scenic bolt
any non-human's a xeno, and contentiously some abhumans could be seen as xenos as well
opaque coyote
any non-human's a xeno, and contentiously some abhumans could be seen as xenos a...
Mutant
crystal forum
dont ask about votaan yet
sick escarp
I thought a specified race cause in the same game someone said “we hate Xeno’s”
opaque coyote
dont ask about votaan yet
They got 0 lore anyways
arctic talon
Nah its just generic HATE ALL ALIENS
crystal forum
I thought a specified race cause in the same game someone said “we hate Xeno’s”
yeah humans hate all aliens
scenic bolt
dont ask about votaan yet
that was precisely the one I had in mind
storm jungle
I thought a specified race cause in the same game someone said “we hate Xeno’s”
xenos is basically the generalisation for any kind of aliens
its more or less a slur
sick escarp
Aren’t tech priests technically aliens though?
storm jungle
think of it like "foreigners"
storm jungle
Aren’t tech priests technically aliens though?
They are human
arctic talon
Aren’t tech priests technically aliens though?
no, they're humans
crystal forum
tech priests are borderline human
arctic talon
just heavily augmented
storm jungle
Xenos is any non-human species
opaque coyote
Aren’t tech priests technically aliens though?
Still human.
They just like replacing their arms with robot parts
arctic talon
"Burn the Heretic! Kill the Mutant! Purge the Unclean!"
sick escarp
Aren’t tech priests technically aliens though?
They don’t seem human at all, plus it’s not like the two in game look human
But I guess that’s the point huh?
opaque coyote
They don’t seem human at all, plus it’s not like the two in game look human
Nah they still have human brains
Therefore human
crystal forum
they are not robots
storm jungle
They don’t seem human at all, plus it’s not like the two in game look human
thats more transhumanism than alienism
crystal forum
robots are not allowed
arctic talon
the mechanicus is still
opaque coyote
The Imperium fucking hate AI
arctic talon
not trusted at all lol
crystal forum
we got robo people instead
opaque coyote
Just getting it out there
crystal forum
every machine you see in the setting is probably controlled by a human brain
opaque coyote
for some obvious reasons lol
Usually because they care more about a toaster than you
sick escarp
Is it bad that i actually enjoy the tech priests? (Like I do not hate hadron at her, she’s a favorite character to me)
storm jungle
Is it bad that i actually enjoy the tech priests? (Like I do not hate hadron at ...
No? Why would it be bad
opaque coyote
Is it bad that i actually enjoy the tech priests? (Like I do not hate hadron at ...
Nah
It's fiction
opaque coyote
Just don't actually advocate for people's brains to be lobotomized and you're good
sick escarp
Because everyone I know (plus what I’ve seen on Reddit/toktok) hates both the priests and hadron
opaque coyote
storm jungle
Because everyone I know (plus what I’ve seen on Reddit/toktok) hates both the pr...
thats because this fandom is braindead
ignore them lol
crystal forum
a futur mechanicus fan in the making
arctic talon
She hasn't even threatened to brutally dismember and maim us
green loom
Technically she did
sick escarp
I swear sometimes she actually gives compliments
green loom
First meeting
storm jungle
Kayex is better
arctic talon
She just threatens to execute you
opaque coyote
She hasn't even threatened to brutally dismember and maim us
She even actively helps us and gives us compliments if we do well
crystal forum
she repairs your stuff which is cool
opaque coyote
She just threatens to execute you
Tbf everyone does that
crystal forum
honestly she probably hates her job
opaque coyote
crystal forum
yeah repairing and modifying fucking lasguns all day
sick escarp
So who do the tech priests worship? The om something, there is no way in hell I’m gonna be able to spell it
opaque coyote
honestly she probably hates her job
She hates and loves it.
She loves repairing and maintaining equipment.
But doesn't like the peopke
crystal forum
a tech adept of her age though? tinkering with small arms?
arctic talon
the indomitable human will to become actual genocidal monsters
arctic talon
So who do the tech priests worship? The om something, there is no way in hell I’...
They worship a holy trinity of The Omnissiah(Emperor), Machine God, and Motive Force
crystal forum
i thought it said imperator sex
opaque coyote
They worship a holy trinity of The Omnissiah(Emperor), Machine God, and Motive F...
Basically similar to Christianity
crystal forum
also nice to see arbites getting represented
sick escarp
They worship a holy trinity of The Omnissiah(Emperor), Machine God, and Motive F...
Ah okay, could you go in more detail on the machine god and motive force?
Darktide is my intro to 40K so I apologize with the lack of knowledge
arctic talon
don't apologize
crystal forum
repent
opaque coyote
The Emperor is the Mechanicus's Jesus equivelent
Yeah the Mechanicus broke apart because they argued whether the Emperor was the Omnissah
Or simply the avatar of the Omnissiah
Religious schisms man...
arctic talon
Ah okay, could you go in more detail on the machine god and motive force?
The Motive Force is electricity, what works in all things, your bio electricity, your neurons, electrcity in lightbulb
The machine god is uh
God?
green loom
Yeah
arctic talon
its the Mechanicus's God
opaque coyote
Basically
"Is he Jesus or just an apostle?"
sick escarp
So notice force is just energy as a complete utter whole
arctic talon
Yeah
opaque coyote
its the Mechanicus's God
God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit
crystal forum
the only reason the mechanicus is around is because the emperor needed them when he started the imperium. they were on mars and had all the tech he needed to jumpstart his great crusade
opaque coyote
Machine God, Omnissiah, and the Motive Force
green loom
That's the rough analog yes
sick escarp
So the machine god is just their version of Christian god? Or other mythologies god of gods?
green loom
Like I said, rough analog
crystal forum
no it's not a direct equivalent
opaque coyote
the only reason the mechanicus is around is because the emperor needed them when...
The Mechanicus have some really cool shit
Too bad they also have no idea how half of it works
crystal forum
it's wishy washy fantasy gods
green loom
It's heavily themed after that but it's very much technology focused
opaque coyote
So the machine god is just their version of Christian god? Or other mythologies ...
Rough analogy so no.
arctic talon
The Machine God demands that you like "transcend and improve" the human form
opaque coyote
We are not sure if the Machine God even is real
sick escarp
So just a god that does what?
sick escarp
We are not sure if the Machine God even is real
Ah
opaque coyote
Like most religious things
opaque coyote
We're not sure
arctic talon
Finding out information
discovering things
retrieving info
ect.
Its probably not real
opaque coyote
and the machine god demands the quest for knowledge
Funny since the Mechanicus arguably does the opposite
arctic talon
either that or its uh
opaque coyote
sick escarp
So from a mythology standpoint
The machine god is the god of advancement
arctic talon
So from a mythology standpoint
The machine god is the god of advancement
More like rediscovery
opaque coyote
So from a mythology standpoint
The machine god is the god of advancement
Yesn't
arctic talon
the mechanicus doesn't really like innovation
opaque coyote
the mechanicus doesn't really like innovation
They fucking HATE it
opaque coyote
Well it depends on the priest itself
opaque coyote
Like how Christianity has multiple denominations
sick escarp
Soooo, the god of discovery and knowledge? I’m a big mythological nerd so I’m trying to view this god from my standpoint
arctic talon
and Mechanicus religious debates in universe are like
opaque coyote
The Mechanicus has multiple groups that believe different things
arctic talon
explictly horrid
arctic talon
Soooo, the god of discovery and knowledge? I’m a big mythological nerd so I’m tr...
yeah
mechanicus religous debates can last years
and often escalate into violence
opaque coyote
and often escalate into violence
And are also really really horrifying
crystal forum
you will be disappointed if you expect 40k to treat theism in a cool way
it rarely tries
storm jungle
One thing I will also suggest
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page
Do use this site if you get confused and got broader questions, its an alternative to the main fan wiki where the information is actually told in a simpler and understandable format for newcomers lol
probably has about answers to most questions you got in some capacity, worst case this chat is always open
crystal forum
the best way to learn about 40k is looking up custodes on twitter
opaque coyote
the best way to learn about 40k is looking up custodes on twitter
Don't do that you will regret it
sick escarp
I got two bad recommendations alright, fucking fandom wiki on a giant fandom and fucking Twitter lol
arctic talon
I got two bad recommendations alright, fucking fandom wiki on a giant fandom and...
use lexicanum, its the better 40k wiki
sick escarp
We all have a hate love relationship AT BEST
You know this is true because the saying is love hate not hate love
Meaning more hate than love
sick escarp
use lexicanum, its the better 40k wiki
Is that a website? Or book series like dnd’s books
arctic talon
40k fans repeat the same jokes from 20 years ago
crystal forum
and genuine racism
arctic talon
Is that a website? Or book series like dnd’s books
its a website
its the thing Dilara posted
opaque coyote
and genuine racism
There are people who genuinely believe the Imperium is right
arctic talon
opaque coyote
Don't listen to those people
crystal forum
it's fucked up
arctic talon
the more evil and insane the imperium looks the more I love it
crystal forum
if you wanna get into 40k start with the books
arctic talon
Core rule book for 40k
crystal forum
keep in mind it's a tabletop game first and foremost
crystal forum
so yeah best lore is in rule books
arctic talon
it gives a primer on every faction
opaque coyote
it gives a primer on every faction
The fucking Uplifting Guardsman Primer is hilarious btw
"bro guys just tackle the Ork it will work"
crystal forum
people didnt tell me it was a tabletop game and it took me years to understand that shit
storm jungle
Is that a website? Or book series like dnd’s books
To break it down
-
The fandom wiki is not bad but the issue the fans that run it entirely copy paste stuff from official rulebooks/material without any sort of editing. Like lets say you wanna read about the Mechanicus/Techpriests? They got everything copy pasted about them form various rulebooks/codexes in there and you probably will be stuck there for hours and sometimes go over stuff that repeats itself since its moderated like shit.
-
Lexicanum is run by more punctual fans and is a seperate site where its also a wiki but it actually sticks to its code of being very up to date on any lore revelations/editing and its biggest selling point where the editors actually fix up every page and give a proper generally short explanation in any page that is way easier to digest.
crystal forum
gotta frame the lore in a certain way
arctic talon
The fucking Uplifting Guardsman Primer is hilarious btw
grab the orks arm, twist the arm
crystal forum
also lexicanum has citations
opaque coyote
grab the orks arm, twist the arm
They also draw the Ork like they're human sized
storm jungle
wiki is just
- "Idk its from this book"
crystal forum
and the ads are less cancer
opaque coyote
crystal forum
i think the person left
opaque coyote
and the ads are less cancer
Fandom wiki be like
crystal forum
we scared them
storm jungle
damn we lost em
green loom
wiki is just
- "Idk its from this book"
"which part"
"Idfk what do you want"
sick escarp
To break it down
- The fandom wiki is not bad but the issue the fans that run i...
So the lex is better
crystal forum
it just lacks info sometimes
green loom
It's the difference of a person who never had to do a diploma work vs one who did lol
storm jungle
^^^^^^
sick escarp
Just gonna take a screenshot so I can look it up later and not have to scroll for a few hours
crystal forum
as opposed to wiki which will have 10000 words on scumpus the wise from planet who gives a shit
sacred ginkgo
Fandom also can be filled with missinformation depending on how much the moderators care, if at all
storm jungle
^
storm jungle
as opposed to wiki which will have 10000 words on scumpus the wise from planet w...
if you want the peak example of what i mean go read the Whirlwind page, it repeats the same information like 3 times lmao
sick escarp
Now to start a riot as I leave
You fed information to a spy heretic! evil laughing fading into nothing as I dip from the channel
crystal forum
if you want the peak example of what i mean go read the Whirlwind page, it repea...
arbites page too
literally the same exact paragraph in multiple places
storm jungle
Yeah like i was reading it entirely because i went "eh i want some longer reading material"
then i go over the same info and think im going crazy
green loom
Do you think they know half of us are non-imp gamers 
storm jungle
before i notice that no it actually repeats 💀
storm jungle
Do you think they know half of us are non-imp gamers <:PaissaSquint:659249111140...
tho the wiki does have upsides
when people ask me uh
"how can i read imperial armor, the books are so expensive"
"just go read the wiki lol"
storm jungle
^
it legit saved me years back when i first wanted to read about Vraks
the wiki compiled all 3 books into one massive gargantuan page
same with the Badab war
crystal forum
why would i want them untouched
im not collecting this shit i just want to look at the pretty pictures
crystal forum
as long as it's not body fluids im good
like do you go to a library and become revolted when it has a stain
jeez
green loom
Doesn't the vault on wh+ have bits of IA
crystal forum
if only i could access warhammer+ to check
green loom
Oh right Canada locked it didn't they
crystal forum
but NO my money isn't good enough for GW
yes it did
fuck i think i'm going to waste money on HH stuff
storm jungle
- they have removed the entire rules sections
along with any images that were on those pages
crystal forum
CIA'd that shit
storm jungle
yup
crystal forum
should i buy weapon upgrades for my space marines or mechanicum battle force
this is HH so im not breaking my vow
i just looked at a weird bug and i flew at my face
green loom
Do neither and play the foxhole mod for MOWAS2
crystal forum
fucking die
crystal forum
stop speaking im lighting up a bone
green loom
Runs away
fallen plaza
should i buy weapon upgrades for my space marines or mechanicum battle force
Which do you want given the upgrades sooner
crystal forum
are weapon upgrades just a waste of money is what im wondering