40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

People who think people in charge IRL dont make god awful decisions should deffo never go out the house.

[fallen plaza]

Sure, and i’ll jump back up to flex on you

[gray umbra]

The plot point about malekith being the true king all along is still hilarious to me

[storm jungle]

go back to the depths of Hades and the pits of Tartarus you fucker

[storm jungle]

okay but like

that is not comparable

that is legit just dogshit writing

[dusk patrol]

It all started when he was a child

His father you see was a drinker and a gambler

[storm jungle]

Malekith being the phoenix king all along is like 40k randomly saying Horus was right all along.

because ???

idk plot

[dusk patrol]

Anyways he became Nurgle Chieftain and then died kinda lame the end

[crisp heath]

Erm, but Horus said the emperor is a tyrant

So he is now the good guy fighting oppression

[storm jungle]

the Emperor was a redditor in a past life

hes not wrong

also the founder of r/atheism

[gray umbra]

I feel like if the plot ever gets there that alpha legion prophecy bullshit would be the thing

[storm jungle]

god please no

alpha legion fans should all explode

[crisp heath]

The biggest alpha legion trick

Was making people think it’s good

[gray umbra]

Horus should have won all along xd

[storm jungle]

the biggest Alpha Legion trick is their entire fanbase brainwashing themselves into thinking they arent a chaos faction.

[outer wave]

Damn he got beat as a child... we were giving him his childhood PTSD then....

😔

[gray umbra]

They're loyal trust me

[storm jungle]

erm, im alpharius guys 🤓

[crisp heath]

Any day now

They will kill chaos

Any day now

[storm jungle]

about as worse as Night Lord copium fans

[fallen plaza]

Its all according to plan….. (does nothing)

[dusk patrol]

Really says a lot about society

[outer wave]

Ribspreader Joker moment

[dusk patrol]

What if humans, are the real monsters?

[gray umbra]

Omg

[fallen plaza]

(Un)Real tournament 4

[storm jungle]

No even better,

Does an action that entirely supports chaos down to dooming an entire sector or planet and creating literal armageddon
"No guys trust me this is a loyalist act in disguise 🤓 "

like

💀

the real loyalist act in disguise is me mailing you a pipebomb

[gray umbra]

Them dooming the planet will lead to a chain of events where 500 years from now, the ultramarines will stumble across the secret to closing the cicatrix maledictum

[storm jungle]

God I love saferoom texts so much

"I HOPE YOU ARE DEAD"

[outer wave]

IDIOT

No thats the zombies

[dusk patrol]

GUYS ALPHA LEGION ARE ACTUALLY LOYALISTS, IRON WARRIORS AND NIGHT LORDS HATE CHAOS, ORKS CAN WARP REALITY WITH WHAT THEY BELIEVE!

[storm jungle]

you forgot uh

something-something omg traitor geneseed in loyalist

NOBODY GIVES A SHIT SHUT THE FUCK UP

[dusk patrol]

Ugh

[gray umbra]

Second legion?!

[outer wave]

Sounds a bit like prom night haha

[dusk patrol]

“They’re not 100% carbon copies of their progenitor or we don’t know, therefore traitor geneseed.”

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/when-society-joker-movie-joaquin-phoenix-gif-25184211

[storm jungle]

*screaming*

the only SM homebrew i respect is when they take part in some larger canon engagement and either dont manage to get there or half their chapter dies for black comedy

like get creative with your stupid Chapters you fucking hacks

WHERE DID YOU GET ALL THESE RELIC WEAPONS

[gray umbra]

My sm homebrew is that their indoctrination involves mewing

[storm jungle]

i can hear the tf2 song in my head

[outer wave]

A homebrew chapter that states they have a bunch of relic weapons, but they're all forgeries

[storm jungle]

that would actually be funny lol

[outer wave]

They even fool each other

[storm jungle]

Yeah just the entire "oh my Chapter has this special gimmick"

just make some normal Chapter bruh, its not that hard

the space marine homebrew wiki gave me so much PTSD, im ruined at this point

[gray umbra]

All the homebrew i know of is from the abomination that is 1d4chan

[outer wave]

The only real homebrew chapter Ive thought up was a portion of DG where they've all been infected with a funny disease that causes them to grow more skulls and spinal columns, and also causes their necks to elongate from their bodies

[gray umbra]

I was a big fan of the fuck you cannon back in the day

[outer wave]

They eventually die and the skulls open up to reveal flowers

[fallen plaza]

Me looking at the whopping 20 billion chapters named ashen “insert cool word”

[storm jungle]

^

[fallen plaza]

Its like they just saw one blurb of the ashen circle and thought, “hell yeah”

[storm jungle]

you definitely notice how better homebrew can get when you actually make your stuff more ""grounded"" by 40k standards.

Eisenhorn is great because they do this galactic nightmare scenarios that start from a simple murder in some hab block before getting to a planet made from the body of some dead warp god and it has nothing to do with the larger universe.

now its obviously getting tied to shit like Valdor/Enuncia or w/e the fuck but you get what I mean lol

the galaxy is your playground but you insist on circlejerking and orbiting around the main narratives like an uncreative hack

[gray umbra]

Yeah thats why the horus heresy series got boring to me after like the 5th book

All that shit is preordained and then you get stupid events just to maintain continuity

[storm jungle]

Its the same reason why most of the mid 2000's 40k books are so good.

Half of them are just "random unrelated adventure"

now almost every book has to do with something about the Rift or the Indomitus Crusade aughhh

[outer wave]

We should just leave the local galaxy and talk about some orks on the periphery

That'd be based

[storm jungle]

[viral halo]

Subbed to marvel unlimited last night

read through the uncanny x force issues

fucking uhhh || wasn't ready for fantomex to shoot a 9 year old in the head and blow his brains out ||

[storm jungle]

Least violent crime in comics

shoulda used a crowbar

[wintry scarab]

Most of the time my favourite media is spinoffs. I love it when after a universe is established, spinoffs without stakes in the grand scheme are made. Like ODST or the start of the Mandalorian. Where you can just expand the smaller parts of the universe and not have the weight of having to move it forward.

[storm jungle]

Shoutout to the Mandalorian for getting gang-railed to becoming another slop series

[wintry scarab]

That show was something i would watch with my dad. He is media illiterate and even he said it was turning into slop.

[fallen plaza]

Deadpool is next

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-one-condition-captain-bombardier-there-is-just-one-condition-on-one-condition-gif-7005080897721448117

Tapped out after lizzo the hutt

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[storm jungle]

Good, fuck Deadpool

"hurr durr i cant stfu and make random pop culture jokes"

shut up you annoying fuck

[viral halo]

I'm going through a Kotor II playthrough right now and the writing is so fucking good it just makes me see star war's potential

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[crisp heath]

I liked mando’s first two seasons

[dusk patrol]

“Yes my chapter is a fleet based chapter of void specialists who use their serfs as auxiliaries, and have an unusual amount of relic terminator armor and leviathan dreads, as well as other heresy vehicle….”

[crisp heath]

Was fun watching it with my family

[viral halo]

deadpool and wolverine was good thought not gonna lie

[storm jungle]

You are being WAY too nice just implying they stop at termies/dreads

[dusk patrol]

These mfers think they’re slick by not having a shitton of Librarians

[fallen plaza]

My favorite homebrew trope, a lot of firetrucks and monster trucks

[viral halo]

I hope the new daredevil show/movie whatever keeps its edge and doesn't become more Disney slop

[storm jungle]

It was okay, I get why people loved it just not for me. Im tired of the multiverse stuff someone save me!!!

only thing i loved was Cassandra Nova being a slimey piece of shit though that was peak

[dusk patrol]

It was fun but idk if I’d say it’s good. The jokes were funny though. I was mostly impressed by how much to expected you to know

Some of those references were super deep cuts

[wintry scarab]

Im yet to see it, but i honestly think deadpool one and 2 are really good. They just suffer from rick and syndrome where they just got too popular and stopped being based and redpilled imo.

[viral halo]

When blade said the R word I spit out my drink

[storm jungle]

It very much relies on rose tinted glasses. Its a fun movie for the general masses but if you are like kinda "uptight" i guess it wont really work.

[dusk patrol]

My favorite was the Hugh Jackman divorce joke

[viral halo]

Glad to see one of my two favorite words making its way back into media

[dusk patrol]

That was wild

[viral halo]

That one was good

every person I've known who's really into deadpool has been insufferable bc they're always the "rick friend"

[dusk patrol]

He wasn’t even divorced at the time of the movie, they added that shit in post

[storm jungle]

Based.

[storm jungle]

Deadpool is brainrot.

[fallen plaza]

Funny thing is, r@tard isn’t a censored word on tv, but on youtube and this server it is

[dusk patrol]

Yeah Deadpool is definitely something which needs small doses

[storm jungle]

well yeah lol

[fallen plaza]

Literally 1994

[viral halo]

if it wasn't censored in here this chat would be a bloodbath

[dusk patrol]

The best scene of the movie was probably the fight in the car

Or the opening

I loved the visual gag of desecrating his corpse with the TVA new marvel bullshit

[storm jungle]

Deadpool works great when its something like Deadpool 2 where he has actual serious moments and characters to bounce off of.

Him just being in that prison with Russel being a depressed mess accepting hes gonna slowly die to be a husk in his cell was lmao

[arctic talon]

The corpse desecration is hilarious

[dusk patrol]

Yeah Deadpool 1 was still the best

[arctic talon]

Literally one of the funniest openings for a movie I’ve seen in a while

[arctic talon]

I like 2 the most tbh

[dusk patrol]

This one was just a reference and cameo fest which is fine I guess but yeah it’s not really a story

[viral halo]

Im ngl I thoroughly enjoyed deadpool 1,2, and 3 which is rare for me bc I love calling stuff slop and being a critic and calling deadpool fans braindead

[dusk patrol]

Just a vehicle for jokes

[storm jungle]

Deadpool 2 i only say is the best because Cable is in it and hes basically a space marine in all but name.

[dusk patrol]

I like all three yeah

[arctic talon]

This one feels like purely a comedy movie

[viral halo]

They can put x men in anything and I will watch it though

[wintry scarab]

Deadpool 2 had those weird dubstep jokes where it felt like it was living in 2012

[arctic talon]

It doesn’t take itself seriously at all

[dusk patrol]

They all had some fantastic action sequences

[arctic talon]

Even compared to the previous 2

Lol

[dusk patrol]

Cables whole loadout was so cool

[fallen plaza]

😁

[viral halo]

Brolin was a good casting for Cable

[storm jungle]

Cable legit was just done throughout the entire movie

[viral halo]

Also I had no idea William Hurt died and his character was recasted by Harrison Ford for the new Cap movie?

[dusk patrol]

Wolverine was a really good straight man in this one too I’ll say

[storm jungle]

Yeah agreed

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

i think my favorite scene was like

[dusk patrol]

Heart attack

[storm jungle]

where he legit tells Wade to shut up, and tells him he is worthless

and he literally has nothing to say to him

they just fight because he pissed him off

weirdly serious scen etha tworked for me

[dusk patrol]

“You couldn’t even save a relationship with a stripper” was cold as fuck

[storm jungle]

YEP

[viral halo]

Every time Hugh Jackman says "bub" I almost blow my edge

[storm jungle]

BRUH

also wojak point

[green loom]

The

The Cavillreen

[storm jungle]

no

[dusk patrol]

I also was impressed at how it didn’t feel like it took away from Logan

[storm jungle]

Yeah it didnt, idk how they managed it

i guess having Laura there actually worked

[dusk patrol]

Mostly jsut met it head on

[fallen plaza]

Cavil has a good hairy chest for one though

[storm jungle]

cant beat Hugh im sorry

[fallen plaza]

True

[storm jungle]

yall mfers can do whatever im gonna be shredding cheese on that

🧀

[fallen plaza]

😁

[storm jungle]

also uphill ice-skating my beloved

[fallen plaza]

Im going on a 😁 spree today

Feelin 😁

[gray umbra]

Deadpool and wolverine just makes me want a gambit spinoff

[storm jungle]

Okay im gonna be honest

[fallen plaza]

My name

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/gambit-channing-tatum-wooimmamake-woo-wooimmamakeaname-gif-689747768459140328

[storm jungle]

i legit got no idea why people are going nuts over Tatum as Gambit

[fallen plaza]

Jef

[viral halo]

theycallmedagambit

[storm jungle]

like i guess i just didnt get it

[gray umbra]

To be honest

[crisp heath]

Why he talk funny

[green loom]

He say da funny ward

[storm jungle]

augh

[viral halo]

it's just funny ig

[gray umbra]

I just want 2 hrs of channing tatum doing things and just not making sense

[green loom]

Tatum appears twice in a decade and becomes a meme both times

[storm jungle]

also hold up guys

new Kraven Da Huntah trailer

i gotta watch it and wojak point

[crisp heath]

Tatum was pretty cool in the kingsman movie

[dusk patrol]

It was ok, the accent was hilarious though

[crisp heath]

For the 5 minutes he was on screen

[viral halo]

great casting, shame that dude is stuck with his ghoul groomer wife

[fallen plaza]

I am soyying soo hard rn

[storm jungle]

I clapped when he wore the goofy lion fur coat

and uhhh

yeah thats all Kraven has i guess

[viral halo]

Need a morbius reboot

[fallen plaza]

Fruity ahh outfit

[storm jungle]

also god

they put a johnny cash song in the trailer

[green loom]

I can't wait for cavil to play Constantin Valdor in the Horus Heresy Amazon show

[fallen plaza]

https://youtube.com/shorts/AHyUSgNu9to?si=B2Em8phq7JoxVQ0k

[storm jungle]

aughhhh

[storm jungle]

I legit cannot unsee any 40k circlejerking when i see Cavill in anything rn

[viral halo]

I can't wait for the inevitable news that the show is scrapped this year

gonna be legendary

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[fallen plaza]

I am very much in favour of a horus heresy show

I dunno if you can tell

Mainly just to fix all the garbage in it

[storm jungle]

"Fix"

we are gonna make it WORSE

[arctic talon]

I think I'd rather not have a heresy show

[green loom]

Imagine the CGI budget on that LOL

[arctic talon]

CGI budget

[storm jungle]

the problem is what are they gonna do, like-

YEAH THAT

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

GW does not give money to anything unless it sa big project and even then its never long

i dont wanna imagine how much Pariah Nexus cost

[fallen plaza]

Preferably i would rather it he animation

[green loom]

19 hours of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-co8eIfWXM&ab_channel=GKJusticar55

[crisp heath]

Caiaphas Cain Netflix show with Marvel humor

[storm jungle]

This yeah, warhammer in general must be animation.

live action is impossible unless you got a movie budget and keep it simple

[arctic talon]

If they're going to do something live action

you need to keep it lower level

[viral halo]

Just please do eisenhorn just please

it's so simple please

PLEASE

[storm jungle]

Eisenhorny

[green loom]

Pulls out 1911- stub pistol

[fallen plaza]

Back when i was new to this franchise this really didnt help me with the fact that early on i thought 40k and bionicle look similar

[storm jungle]

I mean

[fallen plaza]

Like bruh

[storm jungle]

also only good part of that movie is John Hurt

because.... well John Hurt

https://tenor.com/view/war-doctor-war-doctor-doctor-who-who-gif-8012117

[green loom]

Nah it actually looks morel ike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL6jcNiLwxo&ab_channel=TapioShnoro7

[viral halo]

Dude must have needed a check

[storm jungle]

what a mood he is

[green loom]

This

[viral halo]

I think Amazon should cast me in the warhammer show

[storm jungle]

Guy's entire career is around him having an alien burst out his chest

cant blame him

https://tenor.com/view/alien-kane-spaceballs-bad-food-gif-18154431

wait a minute this isnt the correct Alien copy

[outer wave]

SPACE BALLS THE FLAMETHROWER

[storm jungle]

SPACE WALLS THE VIDEOGAME

[green loom]

John Blanche probably coerced him

[storm jungle]

oh whoops

[outer wave]

SPACE BALLS THE T SHIRT

[storm jungle]

SPACE BALLS THE DOLLS

[green loom]

Isn't the story behind the alien designs pretty goofy

[outer wave]

I fuckin' love Mel Brooks

[storm jungle]

same

such a legend

[fallen plaza]

This model definitely didnt help too

[storm jungle]

I mean kinda, it was made by essentially a freaky but legendary fetishist artist

[gray umbra]

Hive ganger live action film would be nice

[storm jungle]

actually idk if i would call Giger fetishist, he deffo has kinks but it was more just absurdly cool wonky art

also lots of penetration lol

do look up his dune sandworm art

[storm jungle]

Fucking legend

[green loom]

Real

[storm jungle]

Also a great example of how freaky artists always do the best shit

theres a reason Blanche has like... so much BDSM 40k art lol

and that was deffo him holding back

[green loom]

[dusk patrol]

I mean it can also be both lets be real

Giger was an interesting person

Looked and sounded exactly how you think somehow

[storm jungle]

Hes like

A goblin creature but in a good way

[wintry scarab]

Btw, are the Eldar like just not popular or something? Before i got propper into 40k i always thought they were like one of the main factions. But ive been in the hobby for a while and they have only gotten one new box. That i know of at least.

[fallen plaza]

Ferengi lookin ass mfkr

[dusk patrol]

Idk he made the Alien monster and that fucked me up as a kid

Still kinda does

Damn Swiss

[storm jungle]

They are a main faction and still got a pretty proper fanbase, its just another case of "faction that makes the most money gets the most attention."

They do still get updates once in awhile but it only took like 1-2 decades for it to happen lol

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Eldar

[wintry scarab]

Well that sucks. Always been kinda interested in them. But i dont like older models. So rn i have a choice between the Striking scorpions and the striking scorpions.

Oh wait

nvm

[storm jungle]

Take a look through the lexicanum miniature listing, that'll give you an enough idea.

[arctic talon]

They're decently popular

Prolly the most or second most popular xenos faction

[storm jungle]

Im pretty sure orks or necrons are prob mor eon that line

[storm jungle]

The striking scorpions were only just recently updated in 2024, their last minis were from 2006 💀

[arctic talon]

Orks are most popular xenos

Necrons are only popular bcs of Indomitus lol

Most people I see with necrons just have like

[storm jungle]

yeah they got a ton of attention in 9th too

[arctic talon]

3 sets of the indomitus crons

[wintry scarab]

Oh, fuck me! They actually have quite a few wtf. I must have just not looked through them or forgot or something

[arctic talon]

I see more people who actualyl like

play eldar as their main faction

[dusk patrol]

Yeah dork

[arctic talon]

as in Craftworld Eldar

[wintry scarab]

Too far man... Too far.

[dusk patrol]

Drukhari got updated very recently too

[storm jungle]

"Updated" is a bit of a stretch

[arctic talon]

I mean

[green loom]

Space marines being super popular is a double edged sword since the pressure on the other factions to make money is lessened ig

[storm jungle]

but their range looks alright

[arctic talon]

they got new incubi and wych's

[storm jungle]

wych's are the same

[dusk patrol]

Kabalites

[arctic talon]

Kabalites are old still

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

the killteam was an upgrade sprue team

[dusk patrol]

Also Mandrakes

[arctic talon]

I forgor about mandrakes

[storm jungle]

Pretty much was gonna say yeah, 40k is basically always tipped toward space marines release balance wise. Its not like AOS where almost everyone gets a fair share of the pie after waiting at best a few years instead of like a decade.

If the release schedule was anything like it is in there they'd have gotten shit like new Aspects, vehicles and all sorts of cool shit.

[storm jungle]

Crazy stuff.

soyying

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/larper-gigachad-titanfall2-viper-nowhere-to-cope-nowhere-to-seeth-gif-23018171

[storm jungle]

Die.

also man these pages are good

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Legion_of_the_Damned

hot chilli marines 😭

abandoned in 2010....

[dusk patrol]

Fieri Marines

[storm jungle]

SHUT THE FUCK UP

AAAA

https://tenor.com/view/guy-fieri-fire-flames-cool-hot-gif-19117620

[dusk patrol]

Gonna take you to Damnation Town

[storm jungle]

I legit never understood why they even bothered with this, i guess they do look kinda neat

[dusk patrol]

Because it’s cool really

[storm jungle]

Eh

ive seen better on nacho boxes

[dusk patrol]

Ghost Rider marines

The models mostly suck

The concept is cool though

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Lore and kitbashes is cooler than the models

I wouldn’t be shocked if they get a Killteam or something eventually tbh

Rubrics vs LotD

[storm jungle]

KT's entire existence is basically being Experimental: the Game so i wouldnt mind it

[dusk patrol]

Battle of the “don’t talk guys”

Some poor sorcerer sitting there awkwardly as everyone silently fires at eachother

[storm jungle]

also rip bozos

[dusk patrol]

Exodites are another I expect to get a Killteam eventually

[storm jungle]

They 100% will yeah

[dusk patrol]

I would be money they’re gonna get new terminator models soon

That Malleus box foretells it

[storm jungle]

as long as i dont get to see more god awful toilet-squat GK ill be glad

[dusk patrol]

Trying to move the remaining stock

God Coteaz towering over terminators

Ugh

[arctic talon]

Nids scream in agony every time this occurs

[dusk patrol]

Good

[crisp heath]

I think the legion of the damned is cringe

[dusk patrol]

Ok

[storm jungle]

Factually correct

"omg flaming marines with skulls"

yeah ok Marvel

[dusk patrol]

Flaming skulls are cool, it’s not complicated

[crisp heath]

“Erm, my legion are demons from hell who fight chaos monsters with chaos powers and they are good guys who fight for the imperium and the Inquisition doesn’t like them!”

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-piss-ghost-rider-flames-yeah-gif-12708244

[storm jungle]

KEK

[storm jungle]

its not as bad as GK lore a tleast

"omg we are the 666th chapter"

"BILLIONS DIE BUT 1 RECRUIT MAKES IT"

[crisp heath]

These numbers mean nothing anymore

[fallen plaza]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413740215392403474/1273310930914115584/image.png?ex=66be26b6&is=66bcd536&hm=694700b328ec0e24d0212098edb2f27b0e6629bef664ffe4e57ae32fee98afd5&

[dusk patrol]

Sounds like your moms batting average

[fallen plaza]

Lesbian wutelgi

[dusk patrol]

[storm jungle]

💀

[storm jungle]

Pass it over

🫱

[dusk patrol]

“Yes, I’d like to speak to the mayfly in charge.”

[crisp heath]

I think space sharks are kinda neat though

[dusk patrol]

No

[storm jungle]

Yes

[dusk patrol]

I refuse to allow this

You can’t say LotD are cringe

[storm jungle]

you dont get to say this after saying you like Legion of the Darned

[arctic talon]

Man she needs some moisturizer

[dusk patrol]

And then like the space sharks

[storm jungle]

seems like we are a crossroads....

[dusk patrol]

Pick one path

[storm jungle]

the path of moana

or the path of nick cage

hmmm

[dusk patrol]

Either both are cringe or both are based

[fallen plaza]

I like there origin partially because theres a chance space sharks are indonesian

[storm jungle]

Yeah also a bit of polynesian in there

they mostly do it through the uhh fucking tattoos and names

[crisp heath]

I think the space sharks having pyskers use sharks to eat people

Is cool

[fallen plaza]

And i am partly indonesian so i am biased

[dusk patrol]

It gets worse

Wait

He has a shadow pfp nvm it all makes sense now

Carry on

[fallen plaza]

Real

[turbid quiver]

Guys I am a bit confused, are all the normal soldiers of the imperium templars?

[storm jungle]

Templars?

you mean the zealot calling Veterans templar?

[fallen plaza]

Thats just a fancy word

[dusk patrol]

No

[fallen plaza]

Also, lupus spotted, LUPERCAL!

[turbid quiver]

Yes, even the pysker does

[storm jungle]

They call them templars as in "you are a holy warrior", its a religious term for them.

Its like me watching you slay someone and call you a badass knight.

and psykers dont, its only relegated towards Zealots referring to Veterans

[dusk patrol]

Also possibly sarcastic depending

[turbid quiver]

Oh alright that makes sense, thank you

[storm jungle]

its how Zealots refer to other Zealots as "guardian"

[crisp heath]

He’s literally me

[storm jungle]

its to make the player easily to distinguish them

[storm jungle]

okay ngl

pretty relatable image

[fallen plaza]

This is image goes hard

Feel free to screenshot it

[rocky gale]

I like the implication that he is deliberately pouring his drink directly infront of a security camera to make a point

[storm jungle]

also going back to minis earlier

holy fuck i forgot how big the DG update was back in 2017

jesus

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/sonadow-shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-edgy-shadow-edgy-gif-8654658404025286400

[storm jungle]

feels forever ago now...

👩‍🦼

[rocky gale]

People always forget about Nurgle

[dusk patrol]

Do they?

[fallen plaza]

I remember the fake ass “leaked image” back then

[storm jungle]

Nurgle will remind them by putting AIDS in their drink

[storm jungle]

Same lmao

[rocky gale]

It's the same with AoS, I always think "Huh Nurgle probably doesn't have much" and then I check their range and they have like 100 models

[storm jungle]

LOL

i mean not wrong

Nurgle also deffo gets some of the best chaos models

[fallen plaza]

Slaneesh with her 5 models

[storm jungle]

TO BE FAIR

The AoS slaanesh models slap

but theres definitely barely any

[rocky gale]

Slaanesh does have the best AoS daemon and cultist models

[storm jungle]

they legit just went "lets take Xerxes from 300 and make him an army"

[fallen plaza]

I still like samus though

[storm jungle]

I like metroid too

[rocky gale]

Like look

[fallen plaza]

Unironically i do think his model is great

[dusk patrol]

Scooby Doo 1 was dope

[storm jungle]

love that too

[turbid quiver]

Could've sworn the female savant did have some lines who refers to templar to a Cadian veteran, maybe I remember wrong

[storm jungle]

its like...

sexy without being horny

which is funny

[gray umbra]

Hubba bubba

[dusk patrol]

Pfft

[rocky gale]

Like I wish I looked like that in everyday life

[gray umbra]

Like a peacock?

[storm jungle]

She mostly goes "colleague/associates"

[dusk patrol]

Maybe to the weak and undisciplined

[storm jungle]

They got a lot of peacock aesthetics in some models ye

[dusk patrol]

I can easily make that horny

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/peacock-gif-26659197

[storm jungle]

man how does my guy fit all that shit up his ass

[gray umbra]

🍆💦

[dusk patrol]

He’s peacocking!

[rocky gale]

And this guy

[storm jungle]

Glutos my beloved

[fallen plaza]

I dunno how to describe this model

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-slave-jesus-ooh-jesus-christ-south-park-gif-16060646

There was a worse gif I want to know

But I showed restraint

[storm jungle]

[crisp heath]

I’m a big fan of age sigmar locking slanesh away in horny jail

[fallen plaza]

But its like eldritch orietalism

[turbid quiver]

Yes indeed, but has some special lines like the large associate haha, haven't played in a while, might do just that

[dusk patrol]

Pray that I do not feel less restraint soon

[crisp heath]

So I never have to hear about slanesh content anymore

[storm jungle]

Lmao all good, always worth a peek in the game at times

[arctic talon]

This is literally a lie

[storm jungle]

Definitely a good way to describe it

[arctic talon]

There’s a lot of slaanesh content

Post AoS 1e lol

[dusk patrol]

Mamis breaking out

[rocky gale]

Still don't understand why they felt the need to bring this loser back though

[fallen plaza]

Needs a fu man chu to top it all off

[crisp heath]

😔

[arctic talon]

Slaanesh liked him ig

[dusk patrol]

And she’s bringing her penis tower with

https://tenor.com/view/charles-robinson-penis-thats-a-penis-himym-how-i-met-your-mother-gif-4703463

[storm jungle]

fucking horndog i swear

[storm jungle]

he has an exposed ass too

[dusk patrol]

Because Fantasy Slannesh had no one else marketable

Also it was funny

[rocky gale]

It's got a lot more spikes and ridges than the penises I'm used to

[dusk patrol]

Cause he has horns now

[fallen plaza]

Your mom might have been a good fit

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-rizz-rizz-gif-11157824601050747846

[arctic talon]

I don’t think that’s a healthy color

[fallen plaza]

https://youtube.com/shorts/oIGZqatde2E?si=C6nxmHfpEJojLXHf

[rocky gale]

The wee nyup sound at the end

[dusk patrol]

The artist said he was inspired by Michael Jackson

[arctic talon]

LOL

[fallen plaza]

It gets bigger when i pull on it

[dusk patrol]

Tfw they’re all worried that the bonds on breaking, you fools, the tighter you bind Slannesh the stronger it becomes!

Gonna be awkward for Morathi that’s for sure

[arctic talon]

Morathi fucking up

More at 7

[dusk patrol]

Couldn’t even get her son to move out for like 10,000 years

[arctic talon]

I like snake morathi

[dusk patrol]

10/10 on the Opedius scale though

[arctic talon]

It’s a very cool mini

[arctic talon]

💀

[fallen plaza]

I think its a little to excessive

[arctic talon]

I think it works as a god

[dusk patrol]

I mostly like it

[arctic talon]

I’m more surprised no sigmar mini yet lol

But I guess that fruit is hanging too low

[crisp heath]

Sigmar mini would be like adding big E to the table

[arctic talon]

Mf’er

They have nagash on the table

[crisp heath]

Current objective “survive”

[arctic talon]

They already have big e on the table

[hallow plover]

Sigmar is less impactful than big E

[fallen plaza]

Im surprised they decided to show that much restraint on that front

[arctic talon]

This also

[hallow plover]

He's a loser

[crisp heath]

Big E simply just deletes the planet

[arctic talon]

This is wrong

[crisp heath]

Calls it a wash

[arctic talon]

Sigmar is based

[rocky gale]

Never going to forgive GW for axing these models

[dusk patrol]

Malerion not having a model is odd to me

[hallow plover]

I'm speaking purely out of ignorance of the setting

[arctic talon]

Underworlds moment

[arctic talon]

He’s prolly coming soon

[dusk patrol]

At least we still have this

[arctic talon]

With the rest of his edge elves

[fallen plaza]

Ok nerd

[hallow plover]

I just know he reforges dudes into not space marines

[rocky gale]

Malerion will come soon no doubt

[dusk patrol]

And he’ll get a model too

[arctic talon]

Stormcast are more like thunder warriors lol

Get it

[dusk patrol]

[crisp heath]

I heard it somewhere before but like, one mini raid boss vs another whole army would be funny

[arctic talon]

Thunder warriors

[storm jungle]

Hes prob gonna get one when his army reveal happens at some point

[arctic talon]

Also I always found it weird

[crisp heath]

Big E player fighting the entire chaos army

[dusk patrol]

Lord of shadow getting a reveal

Smh

[arctic talon]

It’s like actually the god on the table

[fallen plaza]

Full sized warmaster titan when GW

[arctic talon]

Feels kind of weird

[rocky gale]

They'll turn Daughters of Khaine into a triple headed faction like the Drukhari.

With Morathi, Malerion and Morai-Heg

[arctic talon]

They’re like

Not nearly high pointed enough

[hallow plover]

Stormcast are just good for blood angel kitbashes 🙂

[fallen plaza]

I will definitely buy it when it comes out

[arctic talon]

But w/e

[rocky gale]

I have forseen it

[arctic talon]

I feel it’s more accurate it’s just avatars of the gods

On the tabletop

[dusk patrol]

They better play My Chemical Romance for the Malerion reveal video

[arctic talon]

Bcs realistically you aren’t going to fucking live against nagash

[arctic talon]

Something edgier

[crystal forum]

why is volkite stuff rare in 40k

[fallen plaza]

Too expensive to license

[dusk patrol]

A screamo metal cover of Greenday

[fallen plaza]

Whats gotten you curious about volkite recently gay

[arctic talon]

Hard to maintain, hard to make

There’s good enough replacments

[hallow plover]

Is there a reason behind Nagash presence on tabletop? Like an avatar or he's depowered or w/e

[arctic talon]

So the only people with volkite are tech priests

[dusk patrol]

Also no one can remember how to spell Culverin

[crystal forum]

did volkite stuff exist in older versions of lore or is it a newer thing

[arctic talon]

It’s just nagash coming to fuck people up

[arctic talon]

It’s from like 4e

[dusk patrol]

Basically that yeah

[crystal forum]

im only now realizing i have no idea what it is

[dusk patrol]

It’s a relic from Fantasy

[arctic talon]

But it should just be an avatar of nagash

[dusk patrol]

So now he’s just an avatar

[crystal forum]

so did it go away for a while and come back in HH?

[arctic talon]

It just never had any depictions

[storm jungle]

red death laser

[arctic talon]

Until heresy

[crystal forum]

on tabletop?

[arctic talon]

No in general

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

It was throwaway lore

For exotic weapons the mechanicus hoarded

[fallen plaza]

Like most things in 30k it was probably an homage to old lore

[dusk patrol]

The red laser

[crystal forum]

so it started as a one off thing in 40k and was reused as a regular 30k weapon

[dusk patrol]

Makes a choom noise

[storm jungle]

its also like

literally the ray guns from Mars Attacks

lemme get the gif where jack black gets blasted

[crystal forum]

but it's not a lascannon

[storm jungle]

https://giffiles.alphacoders.com/751/75121.gif

[crystal forum]

is volkite just very good in lore?

[storm jungle]

pretty much this is what they do

[storm jungle]

Yes

[fallen plaza]

Its nice to see a teaser of the new catapharcts even if its in resin

[arctic talon]

Volkite is very good at its job

in lore

just don't use it for tanks lol

[dusk patrol]

It no sells most armor

[storm jungle]

Its like an imperial gauss gun more or less

[dusk patrol]

But not vehicles

[crystal forum]

so kinda like necron gauss stuff?

[rocky gale]

Isn't it kinda doodoo on tabletop though?

[dusk patrol]

Except big ones

[arctic talon]

Its decent

[storm jungle]

jinx

[arctic talon]

on the tabletop

[storm jungle]

but yeah like gauss but more primitive

[arctic talon]

its quite good in Heresy and 10e

[storm jungle]

as eternal said it does good against personal

[crystal forum]

interesting

[dusk patrol]

No that’s Adriatic

[storm jungle]

but fails at vehicles

gauss guns can almost kill everything

even tanks

[arctic talon]

its like a spontanious combustion gun

lol

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/chatiado-tapa-vovo-raiva-homer-gif-14244422

[storm jungle]

No one remembers those guns exist!!!!

[arctic talon]

The reason why no one else gets it is like

[rocky gale]

I remember it being a thing of "Just pick Plasma instead"

[arctic talon]

That was HH 1e

[dusk patrol]

Don’t matter technically right

[arctic talon]

because Plasma was AP3

[crystal forum]

so is neo volkite a shittier version of volkite or is it same level

[arctic talon]

its cawls great value volkite thats easier to maintain and worse

[fallen plaza]

In 1e it was still decent

[arctic talon]

yeah but plasma was Ap3

so RIP marines

[fallen plaza]

Its basically a different assault cannon if i recall

[rocky gale]

Oh I must be thinking of Neovolkite then

[arctic talon]

Neo Volkite has like

always been mid on the tabletop

[crystal forum]

what about rotor cannons? are they a thing in 40k?

[arctic talon]

The Volkite blaster on the tech priest is good

[storm jungle]

its...

a canon that rotates

what do you think

[arctic talon]

yes

[rocky gale]

Yea, like I can use the Neo Volkite pistol or I can use the Plasma pistol, which does more damage and more AP and more strength

[crystal forum]

i see marine autocannons but not rotors

[storm jungle]

How about

we but you inside a plane rotor

[arctic talon]

the rotor cannon is obsolete lore wise

[fallen plaza]

Look at the primaris dread

Its got a rotor cannon

[arctic talon]

it does still get used

[crystal forum]

it's worse??

[storm jungle]

yeah a rotor-cannon is literally a minigun

[crystal forum]

based void breachers

[celest dome]

Don't Dreadnought still use some rotor cannon ?

[arctic talon]

The Rotor cannon is worse then an assault cannon yes

[opaque coyote]

Genuine question

So Daemons often have true names that bind them to their God.

And if you manage to learn and say it, you gain power over them.

Now then

1. Does that apply to Daemon Princes

2. So does that mean that if I say "Fulgrim" in front of... Well... Fulgrim. I immediately weaken him?

Or do Daemon Primarchs usually have different names

[storm jungle]

thats rogue trader men-at-arms

better than gay breachers

[crystal forum]

wait dont votaan use rotors

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

Infinitely cooler though

[storm jungle]

JAY

[arctic talon]

Fulgrims true name isn't Fulgrim

[storm jungle]

ITS A MINIGUN

EVERYONE USES THEM

ITS NOT ANCIENT LOST TECHNOLOGY

ITS JUST BARRELS THAT SPIN

[crystal forum]

oh

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

no assault cannons are cooler smh

They shoot bigger bullets

faster

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/teardown-explosion-a10-warthog-brrrt-gif-26122506

[arctic talon]

the only upside to the Rotor cannon is that normal people can use them

[celest dome]

Yes DH ascenssion make you have a True name
No their name isn't simply Fulgrim or their mortal name

[arctic talon]

and they're cheaper

[hallow plover]

Yes, mortarion got jobbered by kaldor draigo because he learned his true name

[crystal forum]

and i guess punisher autocannon is just a bigger version

[dusk patrol]

Rookie mistake

[dusk patrol]

Punisher? I hardly knew her!

[storm jungle]

get out

[rocky gale]

Eternal is very honry today

[storm jungle]

Mortarion dies like... 6 times in the lore i think?

or even more idk

[opaque coyote]

Like I said

Rotor Cannon as a Veteran weapon pls Obese Shark

Pls

[storm jungle]

it happens a lot i know that much

[dusk patrol]

Alternative joke: No Frank Castle isn’t that strong

Relevant meme:

[celest dome]

I remember a book where there was also Daemon and True name, and each time you say a true name it pull attention to it from the Daemon, so a mortal invented something, and named it the true name of a Daemon, so that every day, till the end of humanity that deamon would be annoyed by his name being said over and over

[opaque coyote]

mfw a good chunk of the Punisher's fans have 0 reading comprehension

[dusk patrol]

We’re not going off on this tangent

[storm jungle]

I mean they dont

[arctic talon]

There's a daemon of Tzeentch who whenever a part of their true name is found manifests and fucking kills everyone lol

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/po-kung-fu-panda-panda-cannonball-gif-26392512

[storm jungle]

its not a complex subject

[arctic talon]

I think the Grey Knights have like

[storm jungle]

Some think frank is right some dont

[arctic talon]

1/8th of his true name

[storm jungle]

thats it

lol

[hallow plover]

3 times? Twice by kaldor and once by jagathai? He got defeated countless times tho

[arctic talon]

Which is really fucking funny

Because everytime they've tried to get more of it

[opaque coyote]

I mean honestly that makes sense

[arctic talon]

they die horribly

[storm jungle]

Ah yeah more or less i think

[celest dome]

Seeing cops with Punisher logos 💀

[storm jungle]

also in Chaosgate lol

[opaque coyote]

Ofc they do that

[dusk patrol]

Mortarion has a tough time with the writers

[arctic talon]

its also the angriest daemon of tzeentch ever lol

even if you accidently say part of its true name

[dusk patrol]

Even when he wins he loses

[arctic talon]

it'll manifest and kill you

[storm jungle]

They are covering that in the new daredevil show which will be interesting

[arctic talon]

So yes if you fuck up what you're saying

you might summon a giant blue chicken

[shell mason]

free my boy morty frfr

[dusk patrol]

No

[arctic talon]

he's busy getting the ass beating of the millenia from Nurgle

The belt

the sandle

the ruler

[storm jungle]

the poxbelt

the poxsandle

the poxruler

[shell mason]

The switch

[storm jungle]

there, fixed it

[hallow plover]

It's a good thing Morty keeps being bullied. His whole schtick is "i have good endurance (and hypocrisy)"

[opaque coyote]

Nurgle: "Are you sure he isn't one of yours?"

Khorne: "yeah, it's Tzeentch's."

[celest dome]

They have done so too in many Punisher comics, and iirc one of the author/artist once spoke about it and explained that it was basically impossible to 'reclaim' the character from those asses

[dusk patrol]

Me realizing bullying is actually kinda based when I get to do it

[shell mason]

mood

[opaque coyote]

Somebody in a bar gets drunk

Accidentally slurs some of their words

[storm jungle]

Yeah more or less. Frank does what he does because of a failed system, he himself says hes basically a nutjob.

[opaque coyote]

Daemon appears and fucking kills them all

[arctic talon]

Literally razed a Tzeentch controlled planet bcs a cultist fucked up the summoning ritual and mentioned part of his true name

he has a terrible to spell normal name as well

[storm jungle]

cant be worse as uh

hold on

[dusk patrol]

Just a slight apocalypse

[storm jungle]

the fuck was his name

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Mxyzptlk

[arctic talon]

Aetaos'rau'keres

[dusk patrol]

We can pivot and recover from this

[arctic talon]

is the chickens name

apparently part of his true name can be mentioned from it

if you fuck up

[opaque coyote]

What the fuck is that name

[arctic talon]

Aetaos'rau'keres

[storm jungle]

Me after i spam my keyboard

[arctic talon]

Simple

[storm jungle]

Asdlfksdle'svcmdsk'fes

there

[opaque coyote]

He appears right behind you

[hallow plover]

Close enough

[storm jungle]

just need the grey knights being all

"Brothers I figured out how to truename defeat this daemon using this ancient terran device"

Puts their name in google translator

selects AI voice spelling

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

if that doesnt do the job

idk what will

[opaque coyote]

Why TF didn't he make his regular name something simple

Like

Idk

Bob

[dusk patrol]

Because he likes his vacations

Why do you think he destroys the world?

[opaque coyote]

Fair enough

[storm jungle]

wouldnt you do the same

[dusk patrol]

He’s so fed up that some jackass found a way to say that

[arctic talon]

he gets a nice break from the great game

and gets to smash some stuff up

[opaque coyote]

I wonder if Tzeentch cultists just refer to him as

"that fucker"

Or something instead of his actual alias

Actually I should make a Daemon where their true name is literally just a paragraph

[viral halo]

I missed the conversation about the punisher

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-frank-castle-punisher-no-frank-castle-no-no-no-no-gif-24489266

Mfw my best acting ever gets turned into an all time twitter meme

[dusk patrol]

I like the part where he shoots the guy

[viral halo]

He's coming back as the punisher which is based

he's in the new daredevil trailer

[dusk patrol]

And then takes life altering wounds which would cripple someone

And is fine by the end of the season

[viral halo]

well yea he's the punisher

[dusk patrol]

I know but it’s still kinda funny

[viral halo]

The worst offender was in season 2

when they slash him open 12 times in the dark basement and beat the fuck out of him

then he gets up and kills everyone

[dusk patrol]

Yeah that was

An interesting game plan

[viral halo]

Season 1 when he || oberyn martelled agent orange|| was so based

[dusk patrol]

Unfortunately, he did the “PTSD lost his family marine” yell so they didn’t have a way out

Season 1 was good, I still think the Daredevil season with him was the best iteration

[viral halo]

I think s2 was good but weird bc of how not horrifying billy russo looks

like he's still very fuckable

[dusk patrol]

The most grounded and really sick dialogue

[viral halo]

daredevil was goated

[crisp heath]

I agree with punisher

[dusk patrol]

I did enjoy how he just shoots Billy

[crisp heath]

Bad people will continue to be bad

Stop forgiving people! Burn all bridges!

This post was fact checked by true night lord geezers

[dusk patrol]

I agreed with him because it’s fun to watch John Bernthal kill bad people

Also holy shit was Madani the worst fucking detective ever

[opaque coyote]

To be honest, that scene is genuinely really good

[dusk patrol]

But she was hot, so I forgive her

[opaque coyote]

The sheer fucking terror he shows is great

I think that's also why it became a meme

[viral halo]

We were in disc watching this shit last night like she fr gullible af

but she's a BADDIE

[dusk patrol]

It’s conflicting

Because you want to hate her for being such a dumbfuck but also hot

[viral halo]

When Billy killed her partner I was like HOT DAMN

[rocky gale]

Did you see recently that Deborah Ann Woll was teaching him D&D

[opaque coyote]

Bimbo moment

[dusk patrol]

No but that’s funny

[viral halo]

Eternal you are in HEAT today

[dusk patrol]

Irl he’s so different from the characters he plays

[rocky gale]

It was on a podcast or something and she was like "Do you know what D&D is?" and when he said not really, she described it and then sprung an improvised oneshot on him

[dusk patrol]

I’ve had to a chance to meet him, he’s kinda a dork which is what’s so funny.

[crisp heath]

People don’t like dnd until they play dnd

Everyone wants to be a funny guy fighting dragons

It’s dna

[dusk patrol]

Also he’s married to Kurt Angles niece I think

[gray umbra]

Take a shot whenevdr john bernthal says "let me tell u sumthin"

[dusk patrol]

Which is kinda funny

[viral halo]

I love perc angle

https://tenor.com/view/perc-angle-kurt-angle-kurt-angle-tna-kurt-angle-somersault-tna-gif-26189087

[crisp heath]

I like the funny star killer guy

[dusk patrol]

scratches head

[crisp heath]

Whatever his name is

[rocky gale]

My favourite part of trying to convince people to play D&D is when they say no everytime and then years later say to me "Hey have you heard of D&D, I started playing it recently and it's great"

[dusk patrol]

I watched a documentary on him recently

[gray umbra]

My favorite part is trying to convince 5e players to try shadowrun

[dusk patrol]

Holy shit was his Olympic training insane

[viral halo]

Dude was downing a bottle of percs a week

[dusk patrol]

It all is but holy shit

Yeah hes had some rough spots

[rocky gale]

May as well convince them to do competitive cbt

[dusk patrol]

Hard to blame him but he’s an insanely mentally tough person

[crisp heath]

I miss playing dnd

In person

Online don’t hit the same

[dusk patrol]

Makes me sad how he’s probably gonna be in worse and worse pain as he gets older

[arctic talon]

I play crunchy systems and shadowrun is awful

[viral halo]

best WWE theme ever besides Chris Benoit's

[arctic talon]

Like

Shadowrun is genuinely terrible to play lol

[rocky gale]

I've only ever played online

[dusk patrol]

Fortunately he had only the second worst ever exit from WWE besides Chris Benoit so it evens out

[gray umbra]

What you dont like calculating algorithms to see if your bullet hits someone?

[arctic talon]

I don’t like using a fucking spreadsheet just because I need to calculate shrapnel

[viral halo]

Still mad my mom took my Chris Benoit action figure from me as a kid

[arctic talon]

Actually such a dogshit system for playability

[gray umbra]

I will say the character creation is the most fucking confusing thing to explain

[viral halo]

He was my hero

[dusk patrol]

You were gonna kill your wife and son

She could see it

That did shock the hell out of me as a kid

[arctic talon]

You can’t tell me that like

[dusk patrol]

My mom wasn’t sure how to tell me what it meant

[arctic talon]

People play shadowrun and enjoy the spreadsheet portion

Actually

That’s a lie

People absolutely do enjoy spending all session calculating a single grenade going off

[viral halo]

I was hitting people with the flying headbutt in the playground that whole week

[dusk patrol]

I always did the Kane moves

There was always some dumbass who would try to do Rays moves

[viral halo]

I was Jeff Hardy for Halloween twice

[dusk patrol]

Or an RKO jfc

One kid always tried to do it in the hallway of the school

Children are dumb

[viral halo]

I got RKOd once in highschool and that shit almost broke my neck

[dusk patrol]

I remember I sent a letter too John Cena about how Randy was gonna make him say I Quit

I’ve never felt so betrayed

Also with how mail was he probably got the letter, if he did, after that match

[gray umbra]

Yeah i think at the very least ill have to adapt 5e if i ever run it with friends. Its mostly the setting that i think is rad.

I need to check cp red to see if its an easier system

[arctic talon]

Prolly use cyberpunk red in the shadowrun setting

[rocky gale]

Personally I wouldn't touch Cyberpunk Red either

[fallen plaza]

Im craving some cheese right now

[crystal forum]

wait i just learned that rotor cannons are actually heavy stubbers

now that's confusing

[arctic talon]

Why? I think it’s pretty good

[rocky gale]

The Skills bloat of Cyberpunk Red makes my head want to explode

[arctic talon]

Okay fair

But it’s still better then 2020 lol

[rocky gale]

First Aid, Paramedic and Surgery are three seperate skills

Like in real life sure, but in an RPG just let me be a Doctor, I don't want to have to spec into 3 different medical skills just to be able to do medicine

[crystal forum]

you can do open heart surgery but if somebody sprains their wrist you're fucked

[arctic talon]

I think RED is still the best like

Cyberpunk setting + system lol

Shadowrun is way too fucking convoluted gameplay wise

[rocky gale]

Or like Lip Reading and Perception being two different skills, just include lip reading under Perception

Stealth and Hide object being two different skills

Just have stealth

Both Endure and Resist, just have one or the other

Half these skills are redundent

One would cover multiple

[crystal forum]

you could almost put these all together and form a sort of "special" system

never been done before

[arctic talon]

I still think RED is prolly the best if you want to run a campaign in a cyberpunk setting

[rocky gale]

Also this Skill just infuriates me

"Deduction: Skill of taking several clues and leaping to a non-obvious conclusion or medical diagnosis."

Because I can imagine some ass player speccing into Deduction and then using it every 30 seconds for everything

[arctic talon]

This is when you step in as a GM and tell them to fuck off lol

Not literally but

Still

[rocky gale]

Because having deduction as a skill supercedes practically every other knowledge based skill

With a "I deduce the correct answer"

[crystal forum]

literally ☝️
the skill

[rocky gale]

Yep

"Oh I'm in a boxing match, I simply deduce the best place to hit him to win the fight"

[arctic talon]

I would not allow that as a GM lol

[crystal forum]

add like a time limit

[rocky gale]

"Oh I need to escape, I deduce my optimal route of avoidance"

[arctic talon]

You are not beating up the roided up gang member

With your bare hands

[crystal forum]

you can't deduce somebody's punch coming for you without agility

[arctic talon]

^

You still need actual stats

Also combat being absurdly lethal helps cut down on shit like that

[opaque coyote]

There is only one option to avoid a ganger as a regular citizen

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-distract-target-rdj-fighting101-gif-11233139

[arctic talon]

You can just die in the first turn lol

[opaque coyote]

Kill yourself before he does it

[arctic talon]

LOL

[opaque coyote]

Or she

I'm not sexist

[arctic talon]

Idk I feel like if you have low stats

Getting punched in the face by a chromed up boxer would prolly kill you or severely injure you lol

[rocky gale]

I'm not saying it would work, but the fact it exists means someones going to try it

and I'm going to be annoyed by that person

[opaque coyote]

Hey it's not my fault citizens in night City can't take more than a bullet

They should've just chromed up if they wanted to survive the flurry of gunfire

[arctic talon]

This is why I don’t play TTRPGs with people I don’t know

[opaque coyote]

Smh

[rocky gale]

Please the people I know would do it just to annoy me

[arctic talon]

💀

[gray umbra]

Luckily i dont play with powergamers oh lordy

[arctic talon]

I still think RED is infinitely better as a system then Shadowrun

Lol

Shadowrun is genuinely unplayable

[opaque coyote]

I don't play like a power gamer

But the characters I do play are often insane

So uh

Yeah

[rocky gale]

I once said to a player "You're playing your character as more immature than I'd thought you would" and they retconned their character into a child to spite me

[opaque coyote]

I don't murder hobo but if someone attacks me I will stab them in the knee to torture later