40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

good

[rocky gale]

That's your problem don't use iron sights

You hipfire that dog and pray

[opaque coyote]

Seriously though why do both the Bolter and the Bolt Pistol have some type of

Weird shifting iron sights

Like why is that a thing

I mean at least for the Bolter it's fine

But for the Bolt Pistol it's far more serious

Bolt Pistol complaining aside

The Sisters of Battle use the Godwyn-De'az pattern. So maybe Ultima means the sector that made it

The Boltgun we use basically was used by the Adeptus Arbites before they came into our grubby hands

No idea why the magazine is 15 though. Maybe the dealer scammed the ship or something

My best guess is that Godwyn is the creator of the general pattern, and the hyphen is used for the system?

[storm jungle]

GW decision beats me

also 15 rounds is still alot for a bolt pistol

[opaque coyote]

Nah not the pistol

The Bolter

The Bolter has 15 rounds per mag

[storm jungle]

they deemed it "lore accurate" enough i suppose

[opaque coyote]

The Bolt pistol has 8 rounds

[tough haven]

It has near perfect hip fire accuracy though

[storm jungle]

lore accurate too

[crystal forum]

bolter magazine sizes is comedically inconsistent

[tough haven]

And the pistol whip into instant point blank shots is so satisfying

[tough haven]

Extended mag

[opaque coyote]

The SM bolters are stated to USUALLY have 30 rounds tho (depends on the pattern)

Unsure about the Sisters of Battle bolter

[storm jungle]

Its inconsistency.

[crystal forum]

sometimes bolters are depicted as shooting full auto super quickly, sometimes they're just a couple of rounds before being out

[storm jungle]

dont get too caught up on it

[storm jungle]

They always fire in bursts

[tough haven]

Action movie ammo count treatment

[storm jungle]

full auto is almost non-existant minus Astartes

[opaque coyote]

Yeah ik

I think they just divided it by 2 cause ours is supposed to be smaller

[tough haven]

And even then it’s usually for heavy or storm bolter

[crystal forum]

that's the only thing i dislike about that series

[opaque coyote]

The actual reason is probably just

Balance

[storm jungle]

smaller bolters can have more ammo too, its just a gameplay thing

[storm jungle]

its the best part

fuck you

[crystal forum]

also tabeltop wise bolters have like 5 rounds visually lel

[storm jungle]

never try to compare the tabletop to ANYTHING

[opaque coyote]

Fucking love how the guy who put his Bolter on auto could barely handle it

He had to put it on the parapets too

And he's a SPHESS MARINEZ.

[crystal forum]

logically astartes dont need full auto since one shot just tears holes through most enemies

[opaque coyote]

Imagine a regular person trying to put it on full auto

[crystal forum]

but never ever ask how they can reload so many times

[opaque coyote]

Easy

Machine Spirit working overtime

As for where they even store the ammo

Books actually do state the SMs have a belt where they store it

[crystal forum]

also i see you were maybe mistaken earlier

it's not just astartes who use godwyn

it's also used by other human factions

it is not in fact a different model

[opaque coyote]

I said the Sisters of Battle use the Godwyn-De'az pattern

[crystal forum]

you said the one in game is from arbites

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the Locke one

I think it even said in game that it's a hand-me-dowm from the Arbites

[crystal forum]

did it?

[opaque coyote]

The Bolt Pistol is a different pattern.

Godwyn-Branx

[crystal forum]

still lame that they removed the gun descriptions

[opaque coyote]

Anyways, personal headcanon is that the SMs store extra magazines in their pauldron

[crystal forum]

no the pauldrons are where they store the plot armour

[opaque coyote]

Because the idea of somebody opening a compartment there and grabbing out 2 mags is funny

[celest dome]

Laati is correct. Boltgun is from Abrites and Bolt Pistol is from the Sisters

[crystal forum]

interesting

[soft thunder]

Oh wait looking shit up seems like everything bolt-adjacent is godwyn or something.

[crystal forum]

everything post HH is probably godwyn adjacent

[opaque coyote]

There are some patterns that are either old

Or Mechanicus made.

I think the Bolt Rifles that the Primaris use is the Cawl Pattern

[crystal forum]

oh right

forgot entirely about the millions of modern bolter variants

[opaque coyote]

But in general

Godwyn or bust

Anyways, pattern names that are about as consistent as Tzeentch's plans aside

You ever wonder how cooked Tau taste like

[soft thunder]

ya I was gonna say patterns are meaningless because they all look the same

[opaque coyote]

Apparently the reason why they're so blue is because they have an excess of cobalt in their system

[dusk patrol]

Tabletop = lore dorks when Primaris deploy from Land Raiders in novels

[arctic talon]

The Cawl pattern is built on the godwyn one

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

So it’s godwyns all the way down lol

[opaque coyote]

I mean in the tabletop, you can have a guard accidentally kill a SM with one flashlight

So there's that

[arctic talon]

I think the bolt carbine is based on the umbra

[dusk patrol]

Tabletop jump hammer captain could lay waste to whole armies

[arctic talon]

Either way Cawl is a derivative mf’er who labels stuff as his lol

[crystal forum]

which bolt carbine

[soft thunder]

these idiots slap a skull on a gun and call it a new pattern lol smh

[dusk patrol]

Until he couldn’t

[arctic talon]

The one reivers use

[dusk patrol]

It makes the lasers fire better

[crystal forum]

there's like 3 variants of that alone

[arctic talon]

Chapter master smasher of the iron hands

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

My favorite unkillable bike riding thunder hammer wielding maniac

[soft thunder]

imbued with wolf spirits for more wolf power (standard unit of measurment on fenris)

[arctic talon]

Or slamguinius

[crystal forum]

i really dont like the modern bolter variety which all got removed in 10th anyways

[arctic talon]

Those 2 are like

[crystal forum]

so now bolters are stuck with the dumb barrel thing on top

[arctic talon]

The iconic two lol

[dusk patrol]

Everything in my path is weak.

[arctic talon]

When it comes to smash captains

[dusk patrol]

Come on and slam

[arctic talon]

Slamguinius and the iron hands bike captain

[opaque coyote]

Honestly there is a fucking funny headcanon that I fully accept.

That Fenris basically has a lot of different words for their various species.

But they all just translate in Gothic to "wolf".

[dusk patrol]

And welcome to the jam

[arctic talon]

The iron hands jump captain was also horrifying lol

[arctic talon]

That is literally the case in lore iirc

The translators got lazy

[opaque coyote]

Oh cool

And also funny

[arctic talon]

The fenrisian naming conventions for space wolf stuff is more varied

[opaque coyote]

I can just imagine a Space Wolf yell to some translator

[arctic talon]

It’s just in universe the translators to high gothic couldn’t be assed to translate everything

So a lot of things ended up with wolf just because they’re already called space wolves

[opaque coyote]

"YOU'RE RUINING MAH BEAUTIFUL LANGUAGE YOU MILKSOP"

[arctic talon]

What’s the harm in calling this piece of equipment a wolf as well

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

I’m paraphrasing

[dusk patrol]

Medusan has the opposite issue where it’s too simple and direct

Not much room for emotion or diplomatic attempts

[crystal forum]

it's wolf time

[soft thunder]

damned milk drinkers ruined Skyrim Fenris

[viral halo]

I love house of the dragon!

[dusk patrol]

“Rheanyra I love my sons! But I’m also ok if you kill the one I thrust into this life without his consent to save my own skin!”

[viral halo]

I miss this so bad in 8e

[arctic talon]

I do not miss slamguinius

[opaque coyote]

Diplomats from Medusa be like

"Fuck you" (I would wish to reconsider your proposal and draw new conclusions from the privacy of my humble abode)

[arctic talon]

Lol

[viral halo]

I had a blood angels jump chaplain with a hammer and stormshield and he was OP as fuck

[arctic talon]

Slamguinius was horrifying

[dusk patrol]

Too emotive, they’re just deny your request without expanding on why.

[arctic talon]

And the fact you could run mini slamguinius with the jump chap lol

[dusk patrol]

If you don’t comply they’ll kill you

Also without expanding on why

[crystal forum]

letting your enemy have a chance of winning is not the blood angel style

[dusk patrol]

COMEONANDSLAMANDWELCOMETOTHEJAM

[arctic talon]

Someone on the rules team loves iron hands

And you know what it’s funny

[viral halo]

I came back from a nightclub coked out and Space Jam was on the TV and I just sat there and watched it until I passed out

[opaque coyote]

"I think that you should reconsider the amount of Lasguns you're giving us. This is a war, and desperate times call for desperate measures."

"No." (I am very sorry to hear that my fellow Imperium citizen, but I can't afford to spare any new guns for your cause. Please forgive me.)

[viral halo]

great memory

[crystal forum]

space jam did not require existing but it did it anyways

[dusk patrol]

I had a girlfriend who wanted to uh….do things while listening to the song.

It was weird but kinda awesome

Works a little too well

Not sure how I feel about that still

[viral halo]

Damn you got pegged wearing the Lola Bunny outfit?

[dusk patrol]

God I wish

[crystal forum]

dream

[viral halo]

I should sell my space jam jordans

[crystal forum]

walk up to somebody while wearing a shady trench coat and give it to them like you're exchanging vital intelligence for the russian federation

[arctic talon]

[dusk patrol]

I should have asked her to wear a Lola Bunny outfit though fuck

Now I’m mad

[crystal forum]

i could try that

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/uno-reverse-card-gif-24856155

Activated my trap card bitch

[tough haven]

How the fuck did chaos forces fuck with blackstone pylons in the nexus? Can’t daemons not exist in the nexus since there’s no connection to the warp?

[crystal forum]

despite my inclination to work on something else i have commenced this

[arctic talon]

They tore a hole in reality via a mechanicus super weapon malfunctioning after it was fired

And Vashtorr was able to hijack the pylon before he got torn apart by the null field

[tough haven]

Was this intended?

Or like an attack of opportunity after it happened?

[arctic talon]

Attack of opportunity

[tough haven]

Are things like the orks psychic gestalt nullified by the nexus?

[opaque coyote]

The SOS were used to disrupt the waagh, by targeting ork pysker abilities during the War of the Beast

Armageddon Saint also mentioned that Orks hated blanks cause they disrupted the connection to the Gestalt

[arctic talon]

Yes

[tough haven]

So what does that look like?

Does their tech stop working?

Do they get less aggressive?

Do they just get disorganized?

[opaque coyote]

Blanks can also be used together with ork weirdboys to create an anti waagh field that kills all orks in the area.

[tough haven]

No way they have the ork killing genocide laser

[opaque coyote]

Also Blackstone can also multiply psychic powers.

For

some reason

[tough haven]

Or just the anti ork bug zapper

[opaque coyote]

[tough haven]

Flip the polarity

[arctic talon]

Disorganized less energetic

Their tech starts to break more

Eventually a waaagh just falls apart

[opaque coyote]

How it worked was that you get a bunch of weirdboyz together with some blanks, then antagonizing the psykers to build up the WAAAGH! energy. When all the blanks leave at once, the sudden psychic feedback has... some nasty effects on any Boyz in the vicinity.

Considering that Weirdboys can explode heads randomly especially when they die

[tough haven]

I know they can create a false waaagh to make orks fight and kill each other

But damn

[opaque coyote]

I assume the blanks sort of take away the waagh energy

[tough haven]

I imagine it’s like a psychic cap

[opaque coyote]

then the sudden surge of WAAGH overload the Orks and force them to die

[tough haven]

Then you take away the cap and it explodes

[tough haven]

Then how do orks fight nids in the shadow?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the problem is that the orks are

still there

[tough haven]

Or how do daemons?

[opaque coyote]

and they still want to kill you

[arctic talon]

Because they aren’t cut off from the warp with the shadow

The pariah nexus literally separates your soul from your body

Slowly

The shadow in the warp is like a flood/storm

[tough haven]

Just kinda smothered?

[arctic talon]

The pariah nexus is like the water being completely still

There’s no wind

[opaque coyote]

It is often described as the Hive Mind screaming in the warp. It doesn't NULLIFY the warp like Blanks

[arctic talon]

No anything

All you can do is sit around

[opaque coyote]

It's a presence in the warp that overpowers psychic communications

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The shadow in the warps like getting stuff shoved down your throat

[opaque coyote]

Basically, if you tried to communicate outisde

All you get is

"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

[tough haven]

“Alright alright, no need to yell”

The Astro path trying to call in says

[snow fern]

They said nobody can hear you scream in the void and the tyrannids took it as a challenge

[tough haven]

“Fucking everyone is gonna hear me scream”

[opaque coyote]

Basically, the Shadow of the Warp is a DDOS attack, but the Orks have a separate server

[tough haven]

And daemons?

[opaque coyote]

same answer, Orks have a separate warp presence

Basically Daemons and Psykers use the same "warp server"

While Tyranids and Orks have their own separate one. With the Tyranids also DDOSing anybody they attack.

The Necrons are using a different network entirely, and aren't connected to the warp at all. Because they're all old.

And Blanks are unknown on what exactly they are.

But all we know is that they fuck up connections

[tough haven]

When someone is controlled by mindshackle scarabs, they’re still aware and conscious, yes?

[arctic talon]

Depends

[tough haven]

Secondly, why don’t the necrons just release mindshackles every time, there’s nothing the opponent can do about it, and not only are they no longer a threat, but they’re now an asset

I guess balance is the answer, like it so often is with necrons

Or maybe they just prefer to annihilate the unclean?

But in that case you can still kill then after

[storm jungle]

Plot.

[tough haven]

Figured

[storm jungle]

Same reason why they dont just spam canopteks which are an infinite resource.

[tough haven]

But I suppose it’s fair

And necrons are stupidly proud

[storm jungle]

its a case of like

they'd absolutely do this to some random schmuck army in a codex example excerpt

but in a story they will just not do it

because (insert excuse here)

[tough haven]

They want to really crush the inferior life forms under their boot

Maybe it’s just boring to win so easily

Eternity of battle probably gets stale when you can just hit a button and win

[storm jungle]

Pretty much any excuse you can come up with yeah"

"muh honor"

"muh tomb is damaged"

"muh lord is senile"

[tough haven]

I still love necrons though

[tough haven]

This one is most common

Along with damage

Eternity under the river of time is gonna erode shit that’s probably important

[storm jungle]

yeah its like the only excuses you can use to make sure they dont kill the protags of a book lmao

[tough haven]

Eh, anyways they’re still fun

And they’d be boring if they just vaporized everyone

It would be just as annoying for them to just be a Mary sue faction

Gotta love excuses imperials get to win like “uhh um uh faith, they prayed hard enough or had a sororitas so the emperor himself gave the enemy the middle finger”

[storm jungle]

those have been only increasing with the Rift stuff

[tough haven]

Any rules you establish in a setting get smashed if they arbitrarily decide that they’ve reached the invisible faith threshold to win

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

pretty much

its a game about toy soldiers

[tough haven]

Yeah that’s cool and all

I don’t mind that

The warp is invading reality so things you believe or think will happen a lot more likely

[arctic talon]

my Sisters of Battle opponet rerolling their 1's to 6's with faith dice

[tough haven]

But the miracles in the pariah nexus books are dumb

My only consolation is the characters find it as ridiculous as I do

Like I get it if it’s warp phenomena

But that literally can’t happen

[arctic talon]

When do we get chaos miracles

[tough haven]

Fr fr

[arctic talon]

actually thats a lie

[tough haven]

Mutations

[arctic talon]

its already happened

The blood tithe stuff is absolutely just

"miracles of khorne"

[tough haven]

Like sure, have that happen, but have it happen after the warp breaks in after a weapon busts a hole through the nexus, or after a pylon is compromised

Cause if orks can’t have their wacky shit in the nexus, you can’t either

[tough haven]

But this is true at the end of the day, so I should just enjoy the parts I like

[opaque coyote]

They need to BUILD MORE PYLONS

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/cJqf0zDY72g?si=XQKhNuHw4DgvgomS

[storm jungle]

AAA

[tough haven]

It just sucks when they could have achieved what they want to fulfill plot in a way that’s less infuriating

[storm jungle]

the worst part is also like

they say some shit like the Faith powers arent from the Warp?

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-force-thats-not-how-the-force-works-gif-12803916

[tough haven]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

fucking mary sue ass

[rocky gale]

Stay mad

[opaque coyote]

Isn't the POV from the Sister of Battle tho?

[rocky gale]

Sororitas magical girl powers go brrrrr

[tough haven]

The obeisance edicts in every necron lords minds after the silent king enacted the pylon program 24/7

[opaque coyote]

Or was that like

An actual thing the author confirmed

[tough haven]

Gotta say, it’s my favorite brand of magical girl

[storm jungle]

its stated as fact

[tough haven]

It’s literally written in the book

And the necrons are super confused

[opaque coyote]

I refuse to believe that

[storm jungle]

it is

[tough haven]

40K if keeping consistent rules in a specific setting was a test

[storm jungle]

someone get this nerd out of my classroom

[tough haven]

Fuck my internet is too slow to post my gif

Joke ruined

[rocky gale]

But the classroom is a Nerds favoured terrain

[paper haven]

Sisters of Battle are my favorite magical girl.

[tough haven]

Like I’m fine without in the wider universe because the galaxy is huge, but it’s literally in the same fucking setting and time

[opaque coyote]

From mixuen

[tough haven]

You can’t just say “nuh uh, cause actually my character can pray hard enough to negate your death field” sounding like a school kid type shit

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbf that's basically what the Chaos Gods and Emperor does sometimes

[tough haven]

Ok but those are fucking gods

[opaque coyote]

Emperor: "Lucius is dead. He got fucking killed by a rogue artillery shell. The guy didn't even know who he i-"

"NUH UH"

"Fuck you mean nuh uh"

Lucius revives from the guy who took pride in making the shells

[tough haven]

Again, if you wanted to do some magical girl shit in the nexus, that’s fine, just alter the timing or events surrounding it to fit

[tough haven]

At least that’s a consistent rule though

And also chaos

It kinda defies rules or order by nature

[paper haven]

Lucius is billshit though

[tough haven]

It’s a poor example in comparison

[opaque coyote]

Yeah ik.

Personally like I said. I just refuse to believe that it isn't from the warp

[arctic talon]

Lucius is meant to be bullshit

lol

Since Lucius wants to be dead

[opaque coyote]

I will substitute that reality with my own

[tough haven]

Same

[arctic talon]

he hates the life he lives at present

[opaque coyote]

And say that the SoB say that it's not part of the warp

Because they're biased as shit

[arctic talon]

The SoB are stupi

[opaque coyote]

I like em. But yes they are

[tough haven]

If Lucius wants to die, just become not fun or interesting or remarkable in any way to fight

[paper haven]

Has it ever been established what exactly gives SoB their powers?

[tough haven]

Then no pride will be taken

[opaque coyote]

They are supposed to be brain dented

[tough haven]

Latent warp fuckery

[opaque coyote]

Emperor

[arctic talon]

Latent warp stuff

[opaque coyote]

And warp fuckery

[tough haven]

Through the human psychic system

But it was established it didn’t work in a void

[paper haven]

If warp, then daemons.
If Emperor, then psyker

[opaque coyote]

It's similar to how melee weapons are more effective against Daemons due to how long they were around

[tough haven]

Every faction is stupid in some way, that’s what makes them fun

[tough haven]

It’s all about metaphysics and conceptual warfare

[opaque coyote]

Like the Eldar and Necrons use Melee

[paper haven]

You think the Tau are fun?

[tough haven]

Kinda

[opaque coyote]

They actually are

[tough haven]

I like enclaves

[opaque coyote]

I like big mechas

[tough haven]

Regular tau are smelly

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I just like the concept of a faction that's relatively new

Being increasingly horrified and confused by how batshit the 40k universe is

[tough haven]

Unfortunately enclaves is a non chaos rebel faction which GW doesn’t do

[arctic talon]

Tau are pretty fun

[tough haven]

Same

[arctic talon]

The Enclaves get a lot of lore

tbf

[opaque coyote]

In fact, Fire Warrior (the book not the video game)

[arctic talon]

They get more lore then any sept but the Tau Sept

[tough haven]

So no more lore will ever come

[opaque coyote]

Shows that a lot

[arctic talon]

THEY LITERALLY JUST GOT LORE

I'M GOING TO SHANK YOU

[tough haven]

Oh they did?

[opaque coyote]

And it's also implying that Farsight is falling to Khorne

How amazing

[tough haven]

I don’t pay too much attention bc I don’t buy stuff

[opaque coyote]

[tough haven]

When was that

[arctic talon]

No its not

Fucks sake

did anyone actually read

Arks of Omen Farsight

[tough haven]

Yeah it’s really not

[tough haven]

Is that the new one?

[arctic talon]

Yes

thats like

[tough haven]

Ah that’s why I don’t know about it

[arctic talon]

a year old

max

Farsight also got named dropped in the codex

[opaque coyote]

Not yet

I might be stupid

[arctic talon]

with more Tau defecting

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

Farsight having distrubing visions and intrusive thoughts

doesn't mean he's falling to khorne

[tough haven]

Cause I’m not buying it and it’s not on any of my places where I legally obtain content from

[arctic talon]

especially when he's like

suffering from severe exposure to daemons lol

[opaque coyote]

Become an Eldar Corsair

[tough haven]

I already am

But I only obtain things from legal and official sources

As far as the inquisition (GW) is concerned

None of my legal and official sources have it though, it’s so strange

[opaque coyote]

I mean if you live in like

Australia or something I can understand why

Or like some random European country like uh

Idk

Belgium

[tough haven]

NA

An fuck it I’ll just buy it

Where can I get it from?

[opaque coyote]

Amazon

[tough haven]

No digital version?

[rocky gale]

You expect GW to make digital versions?

Dunno if the Arks of Omens books are the same, but if you buy a Codex there will be a QR code at the back which gives you the digital version on their App

[crystal forum]

i asked a guy about touhou lore and i now have 40 pings

[outer wave]

It's just cute girls doing cute things while also firing massive energy bolts at each other

[rose thorn]

mood

[crystal forum]

apparently it has a lot of lore

which i am just finding out

[outer wave]

Like kinda does from what little I understand but it's not like you need to know it all

Basically Reimu is a miko shrine maiden that lives on the edge of the yokai world IIRC and she basically gets wrapped up into preventing the world from getting destroyed or worse by cute girls

There's also alot of fanon IIRC

[crystal forum]

it's okay i already had a guy explain it literally just now

[tough haven]

That is just a stream of nonsense

Put it in 40K terms

I think it’s one of the things where the story doesn’t matter, it’s just a excuse for the action

And where power scaling is so absurd it’s irrelevant

[outer wave]

Basically The Emperor's soul is the master of the throne thats situated close to the warp, and is constantly wrapped up into preventing the destruction of the Imperium of Man by the chaos gods or xenos thanks to his custodes, grey knights, space marines, imperial guard, and sisters of battle

[rocky gale]

Reimu fumo

[outer wave]

There is a character IIRC that can eat history

Like the concept of history

Its very out there

[rocky gale]

Inferior to the more refined and elegant Rei Fumo

[tough haven]

How did that make it less comprehensible

[outer wave]

Yo that art is goated

[tough haven]

It’s like 40K if it was meant to sell marketable plushies instead of minis

[outer wave]

Yes

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/plush-gif-22060207

[tough haven]

If you swapped the two it would be funny

[tough haven]

Hungry…

[outer wave]

There's also the human maid that can stop time

Maid to a vampire girl who can control fate

Yeah this shit is wack

[tough haven]

Isn’t it also like only women

[crystal forum]

it is in fact only women

[outer wave]

It is only women, but one is androgynous enough that some artists draw her as a guy instead

[tough haven]

See once shit gets to that level and it’s not a massive bbeg, or one of a kind prophecy character type shit, I’m done, your setting is too fucking nuts to be entertaining anymore, there’s no stakes

Well entertaining in a serious way I mean

[crystal forum]

i want to respect all forms of work

[tough haven]

That’s why I don’t enjoy the majority of anime

[crystal forum]

especially when it's so time intensive

[outer wave]

Yeah its definitely not that kind of entertainment for Touhou

[tough haven]

Same, it’s not that I don’t respect it

I just can’t enjoy it

[outer wave]

Its more "These characters are cute and throwing giant earth shattering energy blips at each other"

[crystal forum]

i cannot enjoy it either

[outer wave]

"They're now going to talk about friendship or some shit idk"

Music is goated tbh

[crystal forum]

the music is in fact banger

[tough haven]

So do new people in the touhou universe get created by a girl who’s power is to generate people or is there just a dark undertone that there will be no more people

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/8jJZA-O_B78?si=sFlome6F1Q5ybYgA

the classic

[tough haven]

But most of them are immortal in essence so I guess it doesn’t matter

[crystal forum]

it sounds like shit at first

but it gets good

i guess that's this entire fandom

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY7FpB9BZH4

[tough haven]

I find most touhou music to be overrated after listening through all the stuff people post

[crystal forum]

i dont like "core" music much

it's too much

but sometimes i do

[outer wave]

The jazz covers are pretty good IMO

But Im also a jazz head

[crystal forum]

oh god

are you a jazz player though

[outer wave]

I used to be

[crystal forum]

fuck

[outer wave]

Played alto sax back in high school

I also did some jam sessions with friends outside of high school

[crystal forum]

im a rock brain who sometimes likes blues

the hillbilly cousin of jazz

[outer wave]

Blues is good though

[crystal forum]

it's not nearly as technical

[outer wave]

Nah its pretty simple progression

At least from my little understanding of blues

[tough haven]

I guess another thing that throws me off touhou is I just don’t like stereotypical cute anime girl personalities

[crystal forum]

i dont know jazz much but holy shit that stuff is way too much for me

[tough haven]

And that’s like all of them

[crystal forum]

blues is a lot more about feeling

idk how to describe it either

[tough haven]

It’s not technical for me to enjoy jazz though

Could never play it

[outer wave]

Which stuff, the vid I sent?

[crystal forum]

no just general jazz

i had some friends in college who were learning to play it

it's insane how hard it is

[outer wave]

Its definitely weird to get into especially if you're used to playing classical or straight eight style

I absolutely love listening to bebop and free form jazz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi6GpwCE-bY

Like this shit is so fun to listen to

Jazz fusion has been my thing as of late

[tough haven]

Is there a range limit on recall for necrons once they die? I always see in media necrons dying and not being recalled to be reanimated at the tomb

[arctic talon]

No limit

As far as we know

[tough haven]

If they’re too destroyed does it not happen?

[arctic talon]

It can fail though

[tough haven]

Or is it just writers deciding leaving their metal bodies about looks cool

[arctic talon]

And even if it does fail the data is still transmitted back

[tough haven]

Just put into a new body?

[arctic talon]

Yep

[tough haven]

I know new necrons can’t be made of course, but since warriors are essentially just mindless drones built on protocol, why can’t nobles just duplicate their consciousness or make new ones to inhabit new bodies

Boom, everything but immortals and above is irreplaceable now

[arctic talon]

They do make shitty off brand engram copies, they just aren’t as good

[crystal forum]

souls are a thing in 40k

so transferring consciousness isn't as simple

[tough haven]

Yeah but warriors don’t really have them

@arctic talon is the new farsight book worth buying for 40$

[arctic talon]

Arks of omen?

Not really imo

[tough haven]

It’s only 104 pages and probably only 40 of those are lore

[arctic talon]

Not unless you want to use the rules

It’s like 50/50

[tough haven]

And I’ll never use the rules

So what’s the lowdown on the lore portion

[fallen plaza]

104 pages, wow that is like a restaurant menu in book form

[shell mason]

ight

how back we from the heresy?

[fallen plaza]

What heresy

[shell mason]

the horus heresy

[fallen plaza]

No

Here's a malcador tank

[crystal forum]

something's not right

that's a leman russ turret

and

i think a mars pattern vanquisher cannon?

[fallen plaza]

Yes

[shell mason]

ok

[fallen plaza]

A vanquisher on a malcador isn't so weird lel

[crystal forum]

there's too many rivets

it feels off

[fallen plaza]

It's a file

[crystal forum]

also the heavy stubber is goofy

looks like some japanese shit

[fallen plaza]

That's how the heresy era stubbers look like

[crystal forum]

i can nerd about tanks if you guys nerd about fantasy

anyways multi melta and vanquisher

L combo

[fallen plaza]

Stubbers on a malcador is more my style aesthetically at least along with battle canon and demolisher

[crystal forum]

autocannons in malcador all the fucking way

it pains me that leman russes cant have them for literally no reason

[arctic talon]

Autocannons are great

[crystal forum]

yes they are

they're automatic

fucking

cannons

you literally cannot get a cooler gun

it combines the explosive power of cannons

with automatic weaponry's firerate

[fallen plaza]

No one outcools the malcador

[crystal forum]

fuck you try to find an accurate defender model

i stopped trying

[green loom]

More like the Malcadork(kidding)

[arctic talon]

no

its dorky looking

lol

[fallen plaza]

Uh, you clearly haven't tried hard enough

[arctic talon]

this thing is goofy

[fallen plaza]

Wrong

[arctic talon]

thats not a bad thing

[fallen plaza]

Either way

It's wrong 😁

[crystal forum]

i actually print stuff

[fallen plaza]

...

Shut up

[fallen plaza]

Anyways, let me find you one

But I know your gonna bitch and say nuuu it's clearly just a proxy

[arctic talon]

why does the macharius tank have rules in heresy FW

[crystal forum]

it got added to solar auxilia no?

[fallen plaza]

It's a milltia thing

I think

Yeah

[crystal forum]

there's no reason to use it in 40k anyways since nobody will even fucking know what it is

[fallen plaza]

It's not that obscure

[arctic talon]

^

its actually not half bad lol

[fallen plaza]

It's one of the more beloved fw tanks

[arctic talon]

I'd say its the most loved FW tank for 40k

tbh

[crystal forum]

damn i didnt expect that

i thought it would be an artillery tank

[arctic talon]

The Armageddon basilisk is a meme/p2w

[crystal forum]

FW artillery is a batshit

like the minotaur

[arctic talon]

I find it funny it was just

objectively better

then the normal basilisk for a while

[crystal forum]

it also looks better

[arctic talon]

And then it got made into a faster version

for some reason

I'm not sure what GW was smoking when they did that

[crystal forum]

"pay us money to get good units"

[arctic talon]

no

[crystal forum]

[arctic talon]

because it was arguably worse lol

since it was squishier

Which is why I made the joke about wtf were they smoking lol

bcs its got more armor

then the normal basilisk

[crystal forum]

btw i did my promise

i opened te battle group box

but i didnt do anything

the bare minimum is accomplished

[arctic talon]

like which one looks faster lol

[crystal forum]

i dont care armageddon looks better

looks like an actual modern artillery

i wish hydra had variants

my favorite 40k tank

[arctic talon]

there's the wyvern

ig

[crystal forum]

you could guess by the amount of autocannons

[arctic talon]

but thats not really a varient

[crystal forum]

that's just a "kit" variant

they have nothing in common

[arctic talon]

Yes

I know

[fallen plaza]

Speaking of something no one knows

The hades

[crystal forum]

yes

[fallen plaza]

That one is a fun one

[crystal forum]

wtf is the hades

oh that thing

[crystal forum]

weird ass unit who cares

like the termite

[fallen plaza]

Okay nerd

I care

It's a cute thing

[crystal forum]

i never got the scale of it

how big even is it

[arctic talon]

The termite?

[crystal forum]

yes

another weird ass unit

no wait

[fallen plaza]

The Hades is centaur sized

[crystal forum]

i meant the scale of the hades

it's that big???

i thought it was like man sized

[crystal forum]

the fucking

british car

it's so weird

i love it

but it's so fucking weird

[fallen plaza]

It's cute

[crystal forum]

what does it even do

what's its purpose

[fallen plaza]

It's a personnel carrier

[crystal forum]

i thought it was for towing artillery

[fallen plaza]

It can do that too

[crystal forum]

on tabletop?

[fallen plaza]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

like the non vehicle artillery?

like the bombard?

[fallen plaza]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

ah

[crystal forum]

it reminds me of this thing

it's british

it looks goofy

but it's useful as fuck

and it tows artillery

[fallen plaza]

FW used to be cookin back in the day

[crystal forum]

yes it was

when krieg was good

and fresh

zimmer are you HH enjoyer

[fallen plaza]

Why yes how do you know

😁

[crystal forum]

what is volkite

[fallen plaza]

It's a deflagaration gun

[crystal forum]

what does that word mean papa

[fallen plaza]

Allegedly it means it wears down armor overtime

[crystal forum]

so like a melta

[fallen plaza]

Melta is more aggressive

Volkite is more firerate

[crystal forum]

so are volkite even that good

[arctic talon]

Yes

[crystal forum]

lore wise

[arctic talon]

Okay so

think of a voltkite as like

a spontanious combustion gun lol

[arctic talon]

its really good at its job of killing infantry

its just very high maintenance + slow to make

so the mechanicus just hoards it for their own use

[fallen plaza]

Someday I might run a great crusade Loadout and run all volkite and malcadors

[crystal forum]

okay follow up question

what's a caliver

[arctic talon]

a rudamentry hand gun

[crystal forum]

i see plasma and volkite calivers

[fallen plaza]

It's an old form of caliber measurement

[arctic talon]

as in the literal definition of hand gun

[crystal forum]

oh

i thought it was like big gun

big plasma gun

[arctic talon]

Well it’s got a much higher fire rate then a normal plasma gun

[fallen plaza]

Culverin is also an old ass term for cannon

Which is the naming scheme the volkite culverin uses

[arctic talon]

Admech weapons kind of use like half old ass terms and half normal terms

[fallen plaza]

Heavily depends if the lore writer wants to do extra work that day of writing a weapon idea

Like volkite serpenta

Serpenta means large snake

And it's a pistol lol

[arctic talon]

There’s also a radium and phosphor serpenta

Lol

Along with being a radium pistol and phosphor pistol

[crystal forum]

fucking arquebus is the wildest one

like why of all weapons

one of the earliest forms of firearms

[arctic talon]

It’s not an arquebus but it gets called one lol

Shits got a magazine

[crystal forum]

i guess it's because of how it's fired on a stand

like how arquebus were commonly used

also extremely french name

[arctic talon]

Makes sense

The stand isn’t even required lore wise

[crystal forum]

i keep saying it in french in my head

[arctic talon]

Skitarii can hipfire the damn thing

[fallen plaza]

ArqueBUS

BUS.....

[arctic talon]

Arquebus forever has a weird connotation in my head

Because of armored core 6

[fallen plaza]

Would you care to explain

[arctic talon]

It’s the name of a mega corporation

[fallen plaza]

Oh

[arctic talon]

And one of the AC pilots part of their elite team goes on an entire deranged rant

And screams “I Am Arquebus” as he dies lol

[crystal forum]

i know it from comic books

[arctic talon]

https://youtu.be/qMenBPSkLgk?si=t7QXVvPYL6_oKjM9

[crystal forum]

european comic books not your trash

[arctic talon]

They killed the VA to get the scream tbh

[fallen plaza]

Okay nerd

[crystal forum]

yes we read euro comic books here for some reason

probably because of the french

[fallen plaza]

Also check your dms

[crystal forum]

ok uwu

[fallen plaza]

I found what you couldn't

[crystal forum]

touch filament

[fallen plaza]

That's gay

[crystal forum]

huff resin

i got my boss to buy a bambu labs X1C at work

so much better than our prusa mk3

i even got a camera on it

[fallen plaza]

I should send some stls I've made myself

[crystal forum]

take me out to dinner first

[fallen plaza]

Maybe that might get me to finish my mechanicum land raider proxy

I'm across the world so unlikely

[crisp heath]

Are the arbites actually well trained and prepared to deal with the monsters they face or are they woefully under equipped and unprepared?

Like yeah usually it’s riots and brawls and stuff but like if a heretic rebellion starts do they have any chance of stopping it?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah they actually are

[fallen plaza]

Police brutality coming up!

[crisp heath]

Actually surprised ngl

[opaque coyote]

I mean they have access to bolters

And shotguns

[fallen plaza]

Again

It depends world to world

[opaque coyote]

Moment

[opaque coyote]

The Arbites represent Imperial law

They're basically state police

The IDF are the local defense force

And the Imperial Guard is the army

[fallen plaza]

I'm talking training

Not law

[arctic talon]

Arbites are feds

Their training is relatively standardized

[opaque coyote]

Arbites are supposed to be an elite force

Basically their role is to prevent the planet from rebelling

And enforcing IMPERIUM law

The local law is left to the IDF and below

Essentially, they shoot/beat anybody who dares go against the Lex Imperialis

For some reason

If the Arbites aren't allowed to simply shoot them

Or if local enforcement can't shoot them

They have to go over the Lex Imperialis

Which can take centuries, with the judge's apprentices taking over the case after they dir

After millenia, once a ruling is made

Justice is handed out to the descendants of the accused

Yes that means that occasionally somebody could just be walking around

When suddenly an Arbites ship lands nearby

And a Judge just opens fire on them and their family

"justice served!"

And walk away

[crystal forum]

arbites arent meant to win, they're meant to delay the loss of a planet until the imperial reinforcements arrive. in normal circumstances they are more than well equipped to deal with small stuff, especially since the bigger the planet population bigger the arbites presence

they are the last like of defence in a world that is turning chaos

so they just cause as much chaos as possible to the "winning" chaos invasion until they're wiped out or rarely saved in time by the imperium

like every time you'll read about arbites doing stuff on a large scale it's because the planet is already fucked to begin with

in darktide if it wasn't for the inquisition there's no way the local arbites would have dealt with the issue by themselves

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but usually they just act as SWAT

If the SWAT is all that's remaining

Then yes, the planet is fucked

[fallen plaza]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832662892134268948/1273038452132413532/sang_guard_wip1.png?ex=66bd28f2&is=66bbd772&hm=71e79679dbcd3ae2c3d6a1bef7569837a299b1e5d18c967b574f11a8eabdc9b0&

@rocky gale

It's still WIP, and it's not mine, but it's still very good

[opaque coyote]

Damn why do they have metal muscles

[fallen plaza]

Blood angels

[opaque coyote]

Muscles so strong, they became iron fr

[soft thunder]

Enforcers* (not arbites). enforcers are local police, Arbites are feds iirc 🤓

[opaque coyote]

"We have arrived, and it is now that we perform our charge. In fealty to the God-Emperor, our undying Lord, and by the grace of the Golden Throne, I declare Exterminatus upon the Imperial world of Typhon Primaris. I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world and consign a million souls to oblivion. May Imperial Justice account in all balance. The Emperor Protects, bro."

[queen laurel]

"Dem Inquisishun humies can't be trusted any further dan day can be thrown, which in dat one's case might be a bad example bro"
-Bluddflagg, Ork Kaptin

[dense dawn]

"Though it takes the last drop of my blood, I will see the galaxy freed once more and if I can not save it from your failure Father, then let the galaxy burn bro! "

[shadow plover]

They have crucified Titans along the Ultimate Wall, bro

[rocky gale]

That does look good, not the biggest fan of the Firstborn grill helmets, but still pretty good

[gray umbra]

Is mewing a part of the astartes combat drills

[plush mason]

what?

[gray umbra]

Yeah how else do they maintain their immaculate jawlines

You never see any pudding chins in the astartes

[fallen plaza]

Ask eternal

[crystal forum]

there are arbites in the local presence of our hive

[dusk patrol]

I’m gonna kick your ass so hard you’ll leave my footprint everytime you sit down

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-mew-boeshi-sigma-looksmaxxing-gif-13581087363054242055

[fallen plaza]

Nvm i forgot you have a fake jaw

[raven stone]

Kill, maim, burn, bro!

[fallen plaza]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1148684323256545390/1273267620824744027/Warhammer_Vermintide_2_2024.08.14_-_09.04.12.02.Dvr_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66bdfe60&is=66bcace0&hm=75555fb4805caf5736dcd2c77a6382a76633925bdce0dae515d6f3314a1a9111&

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832662892134268948/1273240169935278121/24d02773-8674-4560-87d6-dfe23e7b5229.jpg?ex=66bde4d0&is=66bc9350&hm=e46234841acfeb6e8f745e205d81aa7aa51681703b81f4c48be1fba564cae115&

[wintry scarab]

Is the new scion kill team gonna come with vespids?

[fallen plaza]

We would know if they did

They havent announced it yet

[rocky gale]

Reveal show is on Saturday, but so far it seems like it will be Scions vs Vespids

[green loom]

Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN1j_nuE8Fw&ab_channel=Warhammer

[wintry scarab]

I thought so

[fallen plaza]

Vespid fans when i bring out a light bulb

[versed ledge]

There's something I don't get about dark tide, we take out near countless HVTs, disrupt endless logistical systems, play with hearts and minds (very literally) on the opposing force. Yet the war ain't over

[storm jungle]

Yeah uh

thats literally how most 40k conflicts work lol

[celest dome]

Also luddo narrative disconance

[storm jungle]

^

theres a lot of reasons as to why the war isnt over yet and wont be for awhile + Its A Game™️

[outer wave]

It's a continent sized hive city that's majorly ran by chaos now

Or I think it is at least

[storm jungle]

with a populace of at least 90 Billion people

atm we are at 8.2 Billion on earth lol

[shadow plover]

Next week Fatshark will announce we won the war and will shut down the servers

[storm jungle]

Finally, no more testing for me

[outer wave]

Finally, we can now play a real good 40k game like SM2....

[shadow plover]

you'll be testing rebuilding the infrastructure

[storm jungle]

[shadow plover]

for 10 years

or make it 50

[storm jungle]

aughhhh

real Administratum Vibes

[crisp heath]

We lost the war and we just get the https://youtu.be/YgEg8kXmifo?si=PJlqgyrRkwQUkq5s

[versed ledge]

I mean not everyone has turned rebel, only what, 3% of the population? Or so?

[storm jungle]

We literally got no idea

almost half the hive is also possibly infected

[crisp heath]

Erm, I’m playing a blank so I’m immune teehee

[versed ledge]

Ah...we're gonna be there for a WHILE

[storm jungle]

or at least a majority of the underhive where the larger part of the populace rests

[dusk patrol]

It is kinda weird how we only seem to care about ten locations on Atoma Prime though….youd think the cult would spread out a bit after the 47th time we came through….

[storm jungle]

Nerd emoji ahh reply

[dusk patrol]

Discord mod, opinion discarded on nerd emoji reply

[crisp heath]

I just wanna know what Zola’s beef is with wulfer?

[storm jungle]

We got no idea also lol

[crisp heath]

Real

[storm jungle]

its just a narrative thread they'll prob pick up later

[dusk patrol]

He probably stole her favorite dead rat when she was a kid

[fallen plaza]

Ex problems

[storm jungle]

its like how when Vermintide came out the main "villains" were like

well they were basically jokes

[outer wave]

They were roommates

[storm jungle]

lol

we kill Bödvar and nobody remembers him

[shadow plover]

Zola probably modded a discord server and Wulfer was a really ruly user

[storm jungle]

even though hes on the poster

[dusk patrol]

Oh my god they were roommates

[storm jungle]

Rannick does server-mute Zola in the orthus offensive

[outer wave]

And they were roommates

[fallen plaza]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1148684323256545390/1273267620824744027/Warhammer_Vermintide_2_2024.08.14_-_09.04.12.02.Dvr_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66bdfe60&is=66bcace0&hm=75555fb4805caf5736dcd2c77a6382a76633925bdce0dae515d6f3314a1a9111&

[shadow plover]

well he's the admin

[fallen plaza]

Relevant clip

[dusk patrol]

One day he told her that Zola is actually kinda a dumb name and she never forgave him

[crisp heath]

How do you think a wulfer fight would go down?

[storm jungle]

Scarface Spingedingler my beloved

[storm jungle]

Probably a more modified Karnak Twins one

[dusk patrol]

We would probably shoot him

[storm jungle]

he'd have some gimmicks

[crisp heath]

The twins were pretty scary

On hard mode

[storm jungle]

Thats for sure lol

[dusk patrol]

Maybe if you’re a bitch smh

[crisp heath]

Simply cause of those gas bombs

[storm jungle]

i still keep that badge you get from beating them on hard mode on my profile, holy fuck its a nightmare

[dusk patrol]

(I have still not gotten around to hard mode)

[celest dome]

Common relationship, most likely with the Biron dude

[storm jungle]

Unless you got a good and proper team its practically impossible

[outer wave]

I got them on damnation and honestly that's probably the best I'm gonna go for

[crisp heath]

I actually beat them on hard mode my first time fighting them

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[crisp heath]

I didn’t know what I was doing and they told me to hit the bell

[storm jungle]

like... it took us 6 tries over the coruse of a few hours

we were basically ognna give up if we died again

[crisp heath]

And 2 zealots and a pysker carried me through the fight

[dusk patrol]

And I don’t got that so eh

[storm jungle]

Idk how they did it but it deffo reaches to Dark Souls levels even when the karnaks are super basic

[crisp heath]

Never been able to beat em since, everyone keeps dying

[storm jungle]

like i legit never remember getting this mad at a boss

lmao

[storm jungle]

Yeah also the first release of the map hype is over

so people dont play it as much

back then if you kept playing you'd eventually get it

[crisp heath]

THESE MOTHERFUCKERS NEED TO LEARN TO BLOCK

[outer wave]

I think the infuriating portion comes from the knockbacks and the amount of rager spam the bosses do

[storm jungle]

Yeah true, the minions suck

[outer wave]

Cuz god that brother can knock you back

[storm jungle]

Rodin also bomb spamming is crazy

[crisp heath]

When the dude is right in your face block!

The hidden mauler ready to instakill you

Don’t even hear em over the plasma shots

[storm jungle]

most lore accurate 40k fight

"You are gonna fight me 1v1?"

"Lmao hell no, kill this loser"

id do the same tbh

[fallen plaza]

Meanwhile bodvarr cheekspreader

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[crisp heath]

The sister is super easy it’s funny, you can actually out range her as an ogryn

[storm jungle]

"FIGHT ME SOUTHLANDERS"

Gets one pinch

"ARGHH HELP ME!"

[crisp heath]

She keeps swinging with her tiny arms as you walk out of rnage

[storm jungle]

we did it with uh

me aggroing her the entire match

so all Rinda did was focus on me as a shieldgryn

its great

[fallen plaza]

I like how once they get to nurgloth a of them arent taking them seriously

[storm jungle]

also shit-talking his stupid title

"Dont call yourself the Eternal if you're gonna die this easily"

[fallen plaza]

“Oh please, im shaking.”

[crisp heath]

All I’m saying is

Lore accurate nurgle bosses should have regen

At all times

[storm jungle]

id smash my keyboard

[crisp heath]

Real

[storm jungle]

so no

[versed ledge]

And pretty weird how they replace numbers so easily, especially after each run the bad guys lose a battalion size element to a team of four nutcases

[storm jungle]

Gameplay =/= Lore

again

[outer wave]

Actually why is Ribspreader such a coward? Wouldn't he have learnt not to be one considering how amped up he is on chaos boons and general insane confidence?

[storm jungle]

I got no idea why either, they present him as this massive norscan chieftain but he ends up being such a coward, he barely has any character as it is so im not that iffed about it

[dusk patrol]

And how we keep coming back after fucking dying

[storm jungle]

I mean

thats also just gameplay lol

[crisp heath]

Wulfer tweaking when he hears his 2 LT’s been killed by 4 ogryns with rocks

[storm jungle]

we do take massive loses, that much is said over ship vox

[dusk patrol]

Dilara

[storm jungle]

its just not you-you

[dusk patrol]

It’s a fucking joke

[crisp heath]

We are in fact

[celest dome]

Regen is a specific blessing a Chaos Lord can get
Not all have it

[storm jungle]

No its not, you didnt see the auric matches i played

[crisp heath]

Built different

[outer wave]

Kinda wish they explored that because a chieftain that's a huge coward despite everything is kinda interesting

[storm jungle]

I mean I guess

this map deffo does villains a bit better even if they are basically batman villains

tho like

literally every 40k bad guy is like that lol

[crisp heath]

I just wish vermintide made slayer better

(This is cope)

[storm jungle]

"KILL THEM MY MINIONS"

"SIR THEY KILLED ALL OUR GUYS"

"GRR CURSE YOU SPIDERMAN"

[fallen plaza]

Cope alert

[gray umbra]

There is like maybe a handful of 40k characters who are justifiably evil/crazy

[storm jungle]

Shit class. Tryhard af.

[storm jungle]

And thats saying something

[crisp heath]

Me watching the grail knight blow any damage I would do out of the water with one attack

[storm jungle]

remember GK on launch?

[gray umbra]

Even on the good side theres characters who do stupid shit just because

Coughemprahcough

[fallen plaza]

All it takes is a no gun to make it tryhard? Erm, skill issue alert? Just throw your body at the gunner lmao

[celest dome]

All the High Elves

[storm jungle]

Erm, try jumping off a cliff? lmao

[storm jungle]

to be fair with that its just "fascists are stupid"

its why i dislike any evil decisions imperials make being met with "thats grimderp"

YEAH THATS THE POINT 😩

[fallen plaza]

Slaves are grimderp guys

[crisp heath]

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