40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

man i need to assemble this box

spent way too much money for it to collect dust

[arctic talon]

please don't have a pile of shame

as a person who literally doesn't even paint or play

[crystal forum]

my pile of shame is mostly printed stuff

[fallen plaza]

I heard the more pile of shame a hobbyist gets the straighter he becomes

[crystal forum]

but i assembled it so im fine

[arctic talon]

this one is really bad stability wise

[crystal forum]

NO DEAR GOD

[arctic talon]

but its an old WHFB mini

so like

kind of expected

[crystal forum]

why are warhammer minis square based

fantasy

is it because they play in line formations

because that's pretty cool if true

[arctic talon]

yes

most of WHFB is in line formations

they have rank and file stuff

it also is terrible from a new player point of view because you needed X% of your army to be basic infantry lol

[queen laurel]

yep

[crystal forum]

so fantasy was actually pretty historically based?

that's cool

fuck i completely forgot this kit comes with a land raider

im starting it tomorrow

i still have my paper weight leman russ to paint too

[fallen plaza]

Ew

You gave the solar aux tank sponsons

[crystal forum]

oh right zimmer you didnt exist yet

i made that months ago

it's an actual model

[fallen plaza]

Oh this

[crystal forum]

it's the vanquisher

[fallen plaza]

I know this stl lol

[crystal forum]

gryphonne i think

[fallen plaza]

Mkhand is the maker

[crystal forum]

it was a very hard STL to find since it was scrubbed clean

no it is not

it's not a proxy

[fallen plaza]

Wait

[crystal forum]

it's 1:1

[fallen plaza]

Is this from a Russian dude?

[crystal forum]

no

like i said this is literally a 1:1 of an actual model

[fallen plaza]

I know

But do you know the maker of it

[crystal forum]

it's on my old PC i dont remember

[fallen plaza]

Because I know this stl

[crystal forum]

but the guy's entire line was purged from the internet

[fallen plaza]

It's from a Russian dude who made 1:1

[arctic talon]

sort of?

[crystal forum]

i know who you're talking about

[arctic talon]

historical games were arguably more flexible

[crystal forum]

i actually sent that dude like 40$ just because he's so good lol

[fallen plaza]

Have you seen kruber?

[fallen plaza]

I found his files scattered across the net

[arctic talon]

Also yeah Kruber is like

[crystal forum]

a whole fucking mastodon for 20$

[arctic talon]

all the Empire infantry were like

[crystal forum]

i prefer to pay artists

[fallen plaza]

I have his stormhammer

[arctic talon]

very landsknecht

lol

[crystal forum]

you can find him on some sketchy russian site that doesnt conform to copyright lol

idc i like giving these people money

they deserve it

[fallen plaza]

That's fair

I remember his free fellblade file he gave away

Dunno if it's still there

[crystal forum]

yeah ok that confirms it

it's solutionlesn or something

[fallen plaza]

YES

[crystal forum]

idk how he does it

if he scans the models or something

[fallen plaza]

Nah

[crystal forum]

but it's just like 2$ each on his website

his leman russ has been remixed so many times

even though it was taken down

[fallen plaza]

He's made knights too

And a minotaur

Which is very rare to find because no one makes them

[crystal forum]

yeah

i hope he makes titans

but like how tf do you do this stuff without having the models themselves

it's pretty crazy

[fallen plaza]

I'm very annoyed I only just decided to release my dracosan proxy when the unit is already TRASH

[fallen plaza]

Really good pictures

I've seen talented modellers do jt

[crystal forum]

😤

one day

i'll do that

[fallen plaza]

I've done it myself

I made the dracosan almost 1:1

[crystal forum]

yeah i do it for my models too

like the gamma pistol

but it's a completely different ballgame with shit like knights

[arctic talon]

Most likely has a lot of pictures to work with and potentially some of the minis

Def not all of them though

Either that or people they know have minis they can mess around with

[crystal forum]

i doubt a russian can afford knights

[arctic talon]

I mean

Some prolly can lol

[fallen plaza]

Maybe solu is a son of an oligarch

[crystal forum]

he could just scan models if he had that money

[arctic talon]

Infinite money hack

[crystal forum]

just be born better smh

[fallen plaza]

He's made the thunder hawk and it's landing pad

[crystal forum]

the mastodon alone is batshit insane

so much resin it would cost me like 60$ to print

[arctic talon]

Ngl

The mastodon is such a meme

Genuinely terrible unit

[crystal forum]

it's such a stupid vehicle but it fits 40k so well

[arctic talon]

But it’s so funny

[fallen plaza]

It's probably my least favorite unit aesthetically

[crystal forum]

like why the fuck do space marines need a TURBO land raider

[fallen plaza]

For dreadnoughts

[crystal forum]

and is it ever used in lore?

[fallen plaza]

Yes

[crystal forum]

when

[fallen plaza]

In the old rules I remember when it dies it counts as a fortification lmao

[arctic talon]

In the Horus heresy

[fallen plaza]

Now they removed it lol

[arctic talon]

Only if it didn’t explode

[crystal forum]

cant have shit in HH

[arctic talon]

And it exploded on 4’s no?

Or am I thinking of a different vehicle

[crystal forum]

doesnt its cannons count as titan weapons

[fallen plaza]

Explosions in HH were so cool

[arctic talon]

No

I don’t think they ever did

[fallen plaza]

Get cocky and now your fellblade killed off all your primarch guards lmao

[crystal forum]

for when you need to bring 5 dreadnought up close and personal to horus himself

[arctic talon]

Explosion chains are the best part of 40K

And warhammer as a whole

I think my favorite one was a chain of like 8 vehicles

[fallen plaza]

Predators in old HH were very prone to that lol

[arctic talon]

Didn’t they have the volatile rule

For some reason

[fallen plaza]

And of course

I can't forget explosions without the malcador

[crystal forum]

is it possible for every single unit in a plasma squad to die

from rolling 1's

[arctic talon]

Yes

Very easily lol

Especially for units like hellblasters in 40K

[crystal forum]

when your elite force of superhumans dies immediately on arrival

[arctic talon]

Where you have a high quantity of shots

The plasma instantly killing the user on failure is such a funny rule thing

Bcs it’s not the case in lore

[crystal forum]

yeah plasma models even have servo arms because they blew their arms off

but i guess it's like being incapacitated

cant fight without your arms

[arctic talon]

Tbh it’s still a bunch of hot gas venting on you

It’s gona fucking suck

Fun fact you can roll a save against it in heresy

And you also could in 40K before 8e

[crystal forum]

what's the most expensive unit to lose for a self kill plasma

[arctic talon]

But they turned it into raw mortals

[crystal forum]

is there a named unit?

[fallen plaza]

You should see destroyers

[arctic talon]

For plasma?

Uhhhj

Prolly like

[fallen plaza]

There dying and there not even fighting yet lmao

[arctic talon]

The tanks lol

[crystal forum]

leman russ executioner

executing itself

BOOOM

[arctic talon]

You can’t instantly kill yourself with most plasma vehicles

The executioner I think has the unfortunate like

Combo of having just few enough wounds

And enough shots

[crystal forum]

very funny vehicle

10/10 guard

[arctic talon]

Tbf it’s still some extraordinarily bad luck

But it can happen

Oh the Knight mini

Can kill itself lol

[crystal forum]

how big is the explosion

[arctic talon]

Big

[fallen plaza]

So can kortus contemptors if irecall

[arctic talon]

But you’d have to roll terribly

Knight kastellan would have to roll snake eyes on all shots

Then maximum self damage on all the dice

And then roll a 5 to explode

[crystal forum]

"uh oh"

pilot didn't respect his elders

[arctic talon]

It has a 6 inch blast radius on death

Of d6+2 mortals lol

I think the silent king has the biggest mortal wound bomb

For a non titan unit

It’s like D6+ 6 iirc

[fallen plaza]

I don't get how you 40k dorks can keep track of wounds and enjoy the game

[arctic talon]

you have to do the same in 30k

[fallen plaza]

Not as many as you guys

[arctic talon]

That’s

Only true for marines

Mechanicum in heresy is like

Entirely multi wound minis except for thralls and servo automata

[fallen plaza]

What's the average wound in 40k for basic guys

[arctic talon]

1 wound

Excluding marines

Including marines it’s prolly like 1.75 or some shit

Because there’s like multiple dif flavors of marines

[fallen plaza]

Still probably not as tedious

Though I haven't looked at hh2

[arctic talon]

HH2 the average is 1 wound

Excluding mechanicum and custodes

If you include them the average is like

2.3 or some shit lol because of custodes

[queen laurel]

aight which is more complicated aos or 40k tabletop

[arctic talon]

40K

Not even a question

[queen laurel]

yeah guessed that

[arctic talon]

AoS is much more approachable

[fallen plaza]

If we are including bad also 40k

But I'm only partially baiting

[arctic talon]

Most complex game system GW has ever made was warhammer fantasy battle pre like 3e lol

Fucking dnd as a wargame

[fallen plaza]

I thought it was rogue trader lol

I remember the vehicle fucking turning rules

[arctic talon]

Whfb pre 3e had that

Along with like

Historical rank and file and fucking character sheets

Either way I think AoS is infinitely more new player friendly then 40K

The average spearhead is like 700 points lol

And if you want to play stormcast you can literally buy skaventide + the spearhead and you’re at 2k points

[fallen plaza]

A lot of old game rules were vague and convoluted as hell

[arctic talon]

Dnd 1e

Actually anything before AD&D

[arctic talon]

You can experience convoluted dogshit rules today by playing shadowrun

[fallen plaza]

I remember back then an early version of battle fleet Gothic was supposed to be released but was cancelled

[arctic talon]

I think it’s depressing how new player unfriendly 40K is

[fallen plaza]

It was apparently convoluted as a rules designer said looking back "all I can say is that in involved protractors"

[arctic talon]

Just with like

How fucked up figuring out where all the rules are

The fact we needed a fucking rules commentary day 1 is absurd lol

[fallen plaza]

God

Don't remind me of the red books

Or the black books

[arctic talon]

Horus heresy 1e players when you ask them where the rules are

And they point to a fucking pile of 17 books

Actually more like 14

But still

[fallen plaza]

Erm you gotta get the red book then you gotta get the black book 5 to get the complete rule set and black book 10 for the expansion, and then finally black book 12 for if you wanna ally your unit with the emperor's children for some reason 🤓

[arctic talon]

AoS having all of its core rules in a single book is

Genuinely refreshing

[crystal forum]

books in 2024

who even reads

[fallen plaza]

Okay zoomer

Go back to your ipad corner

[crystal forum]

that's not my generation

i grew up without phones

[arctic talon]

tbh

there's also PDFs lol

[fallen plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/stive-cutts-photo-op-for-the-instas-reality-social-media-status-gif-13512079

We are glued to our phones

Western civilization is collapsing

[crystal forum]

making a mountain out of a molehill

[fallen plaza]

Guntank

[crystal forum]

looks like something i'd buy for a child

[plush mason]

tank leg ACs are fun

[crystal forum]

i miss bionicles

[plush mason]

same

[fallen plaza]

It very much is

But is too cool

[crystal forum]

what the fuck is a meme virus

dan abnett why

[outer wave]

Absolute

Guntank

[plush mason]

a virus of thought

before the internet subverted the word into meaning a silly joke image the word meme meant idea

[winged jacinth]

meme was coined by richard dawkins in like the 80s iirc as a name for self-perpetuating ideas that act like cultural genes

all memes are Memes but not all Memes are memes

[fallen plaza]

It sucks that the gouf flight type is so expensive in here, I love it

[outer wave]

Could go for the Gouf Custom

That one's so cool

I dunno how expensive it is though

[fallen plaza]

The gouf flight type is more my speed

[outer wave]

Fair fair

[fallen plaza]

I love it's style

I usually would never like a Gundam like this but man

They did it so good

[outer wave]

This one right?

Cuz there's also this one that I recall from Gundam Thunderbolt

Both very cool

[fallen plaza]

This bad boy

[outer wave]

Nice nice

Fat fuckin' legs though

[fallen plaza]

I say it works for this model

Robot spirits is a godsend on this part as they make a lot of kits that used to be unavailable

Though they are also, just as pricy

[outer wave]

Have you checked ebay and other sites as well if someone's selling something cheaper?

[fallen plaza]

Still scouting for that

[outer wave]

Gotcha

[south mango]

I’m telling future generations this was Chatty Stick

[spring cairn]

nothing ever happens...

[plush mason]

western civilization has been collapsing since before i was born

at this point its an old joke and humor does not age well

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chudmaxxing-maxxing-soy-wojak-gif-18044767601169369019

[dense dawn]

My goat

[plush mason]

i just found my goto reply image lol

[wintry scarab]

Little update, i am running on 3 hours of sleep and i am now fully out of raid and the resupply supposed to be coming later. If i see a big bastard now i have no clue what ill do. As soon as this thing comes, i am spraying a border around every door and window. May god save my soul.

[fallen plaza]

I do hope this isnt a bit or a copypaste, because i do want to laugh at your misery

[amber night]

dont use the spray

be primal

quick question, can an ork be infected by oblierator virus ?

[tough haven]

Probably

[amber night]

arent they warp resistant ?

[storm jungle]

Not really, chaos orks exist

they just dont exist long because orks can smell out corruption very fast

[amber night]

i thought that was old lore

the khorn worshipping orks

[storm jungle]

Orks can be affected by chaos

they arent immune to it

just dumb/have no want of it

forced exposure/infliction still affects them

[amber night]

got it

their bloodshed can also be a tribute to khorne, even they dont worship them right ?

[storm jungle]

Slightly, Khorne gains power from every kind of violence people do but the main attribution of the shit orks do all goes to Gork and Mork

[amber night]

ohh

[storm jungle]

Theres an excerpt from a book where a daemon observes orks and gets annoyed at them due to it.

The abhorrence. Living, thinking beings over which the True Powers could hold little influence. Resistant to the hated Changer, resistant to the Grandfather of Disease, and resistant to the snares of excess cast by the Dark Prince. Even the Blood God, mightiest of the Ruinous Powers, could not offer them any outlet for their warlike nature that was not provided by the worship of their own brutish gods. The abhorrence proliferated, vermin with an infuriating inability to acknowledge the power of Chaos.

[queen laurel]

yeah they are very resistant to ork mentally attacks like whispers and stuff but they are still very capable of being brutalized by what they see in there

[storm jungle]

Yet the abhorrence would see only another enemy to fight [instead of appreciating the power of Chaos]. Even those amongst them who could bend and shape reality to their own will drew that power mainly from the massed latent psychic ability of their kin, not from the raging tempest if the warp. It was as though the glory of Chaos were simply irrelevant to them.

[storm jungle]

Yeah the only way to corrupt an ork is to basically dunk them in forcefully into something, they will never do it willingfully

[amber night]

so mentally they will not worship , does not mean they can not be effected physically ?

[queen laurel]

the only way they will even willingly do it is with khorne because quite literally he is the closest to Gork and Mork

[amber night]

i imagine an ork can be somewhat orkish sane after the virus

[queen laurel]

Chaos corruption no matter how resistant you are physically or mentally we'll find a way

[amber night]

as an ork enjoyer, will you be interested to see an ork oblierator ?

[queen laurel]

Like already said mentally speaking they are very tough against chaos and even physically too but they can still be forcefully corrupted

[queen laurel]

nah orks don't need that fancy crap they already have their funny technology

[amber night]

i guess

have you guys read the halfbreed storm of iron ?

[green loom]

What are the numbers on Cadian shoulderpads

[dusk patrol]

1-9

[amber night]

do we know the exact heights of each primarch pre-heresy ?

i am researching online but find no definitive answer

[dusk patrol]

Their regiment I think

[green loom]

Hm

[dusk patrol]

No

[green loom]

So that means SM2 has the Cadian 8th there

[dusk patrol]

Just that Magnus was the tallest, although if that was natural or biomancy it’s not clear

Ferrus was a head taller than the rest

Russ was the shortest

A bit shorter than Valdor even

[queen laurel]

so it wasn't vulcan

[dusk patrol]

No

He was very broad but he wasn’t the tallest

[queen laurel]

damn the fans are at it again

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s an extremely common misconception

The source of it is fans are tarded as fuck

Mortarion I believe is also noted to be a bit taller than most

[leaden pilot]

So Alpharius isn't the shortest? I remember seeing somewhere that it allowed him to blend in with regular space marines

[dusk patrol]

No

Alpharius and Omegon are maybe a bit shorter

But not notably

Angron wasn’t technically

But he hunched over

So he mostly was “shorter”

But yeah Ferrus and Magnus were the only too which really stood out as being much taller

Russ is the only one really singled out as being much shorter

Alpharius and Omegon are sometimes a bit shorter but not a huge difference

[queen laurel]

why is always the short ones as the most feral of the group

[dusk patrol]

It does create a different image when the shortest one managed to break the back of the tallest one over his knee

[leaden pilot]

Damn so Russ is the short king amongst the primarchs

[dusk patrol]

He was. Still one of the most impressive fighters though despite that

[queen laurel]

is he basically the physically strongest primarch or does that title belong to someone else

[dusk patrol]

Ferrus or Vulkan

[tough haven]

Cause they have to make up for their smaller stature with aggression, same reason why tiny yappy dogs are the biggest assholes

[dusk patrol]

Not clear which

He was very strong though.

The Lion comments that he probably would have lost to him when they dueled if Russ was actually trying

[leaden pilot]

Their anger is just more concentrated due to smaller size

[viral halo]

Actual lore question: is there anything about who the Red Scorpions daddy chapter is? Or is it all speculation.

[dusk patrol]

Not that I’m aware

One of those mystery ones that people will all with “ZOMG TRAITOR GENESEED” because of that

[viral halo]

same thing w the exorcists

[dusk patrol]

THEY DONT LIKE MUTATIONS AND CORRUPTION GUYS THEYRE EMPERORS CHILDREN

[dusk patrol]

Those we do know

They’re Imperial Fists

[viral halo]

I wonder how a red scorpions marine would fare in the deathwatch; I know the deathwatch basically beats the chapter values out of you but like once you go back it's gotta be insane to adjust

[viral halo]

since they're radical anti xeno zealots

[tough haven]

Space marine fans be like “is there any lore on this super fucking obscure chapter” when xenos fans don’t even bother asking, we’re just like “yeah there’s no lore, GW doesn’t care and/or hates us”

[dusk patrol]

This is an example of one

Tyranid specialist

[viral halo]

Pretty dope

[queen laurel]

OK people hound me about these guys being master builders and absolutely amazing at fortifying positions but is that actually true

[dusk patrol]

Called in to help study and learn about a local Nid fleet

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[storm jungle]

I always laugh at that one ngl

founding chapters get so much useless lore (mostly)

[viral halo]

I always liked the red scorpions but hated some of their presentation

[storm jungle]

then you successors are lucky if you get 1 sentence

lol

[dusk patrol]

They got a good look and concept

[viral halo]

THE EMPEROR IS GOD WE HATE ALIENS AND EVEN OGRYNS AND ALSO EVERY ONE IS A DOCTOR

[dusk patrol]

Not always good lore but I like em

[fallen plaza]

They have the best chapter scheme

[storm jungle]

Nazi marines my beloved

[fallen plaza]

Dont like there lore though

[viral halo]

HUH???

[fallen plaza]

Its very derivative

[storm jungle]

also which fucking chapter was the one obsessed with genetics/eugenics

was a FW iirc

[queen laurel]

ah yes

The Reichian Tigers

[dusk patrol]

The one we’re talking about

[storm jungle]

Red Scorpions?

lame

[dusk patrol]

They’re obsessed with genetic purity and no corruption

[storm jungle]

sounds like good folks

also the new Krieg book also skips over their entire wall breach so its automatically shit

[dusk patrol]

They have a shitton more apothecaries because this

[viral halo]

I'm hyped for the new exorcists book

[dusk patrol]

One for every squad

[spring cairn]

their emblem is a red lobster

[dusk patrol]

It’s done by Macniven so

[storm jungle]

you bastard

[viral halo]

They also can make MK IV which is cool

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think it’ll be good but

We’ll see

[spring cairn]

Lober marines onwards

[viral halo]

I know we talked about it but the plot sounds so interesting and simple that I'm wondering how it can be fucked up

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/lober-gif-25002363

[viral halo]

The cover is sick too

14 dollar pre order is tho

now excuse me while I spend 200 bucks on coke and beer this weekend

[crystal forum]

all of them?

[storm jungle]

true true

[storm jungle]

its like that one Simpsons episode where Homer is obsessed with this one lobster he rescued then the moment he tries to show it to Marge it looks like a fucking deep sea horror show

kek

[viral halo]

HP lovecraft be like ahhh ahhh I saw a big fish I'mg going insane ahhh ahhh

[storm jungle]

also mutated penguins

[crystal forum]

more like "AAAAH A MINORITY!!!"

[viral halo]

Do NOT google his cat name

[storm jungle]

NI-

https://tenor.com/view/flying-cat-cats-can-fly-catcanfly-flycat-catfly-gif-19481987

[leaden pilot]

Lovecraft would love Ultraviolet and Infrared light

[viral halo]

do you know how racist you have to be to make other white folk in the 1920s uncomfortable?

he would've loved rainbow six siege

[storm jungle]

best part is Lovecraft for the most part also had no idea what he was doing lol

like nobody told him this is a bad thing to do

[crystal forum]

the best horror comes from absolutely paranoid minds

[storm jungle]

guy was so clueless

[viral halo]

I believe his family had a history of extreme mental illness

[storm jungle]

yeah it would explain a lot

like he seems introverted as hell

[green loom]

Do you think the fish people were just

[storm jungle]

its prob why he doesnt realise half his content being s oweird

[viral halo]

Cause his racism is even extreme for the time

[green loom]

French fishermen or something

[viral halo]

dude found out his wife was jewish and went

[queen laurel]

cartoons being normal

That one random ass moment that they just shoved in there:

[green loom]

Their english wasn't perfect so he thought they were servants of the others

[crystal forum]

i heard that he never even intended for his writings to be horror, they were all meant to just weird you out

[leaden pilot]

He was a machine for writing letters tho

[storm jungle]

Yeah same

I hate writers more who are actively malicious in their writing, for the most part he just seemed clueless

[leaden pilot]

I've read that it's estimated that he wrote 100 000 letters in his lifetime

[crystal forum]

(starship troopers)

[viral halo]

When am I going to quit my job and pursue my dream of being a writer

[spare osprey]

Him when welsh people for some fuckin reason

[storm jungle]

[spring cairn]

this is his time period equivalent of what's happening right here

[crystal forum]

i write that many letters in a day on discord

[viral halo]

I spend most of my day shitposting on the internet while I'm teaching

Throw a couple zyns in

order some shit on ebay

pretty electric

[fallen plaza]

Bwah

[crystal forum]

most based english professor

[viral halo]

I started painting superhero miniatures bc I'm burnt out on warhammer

[spring cairn]

nerd

[green loom]

I started drawing World of Smellcraft

[viral halo]

here's my wolverine

[fallen plaza]

Hot

[crystal forum]

what's with the helmet

[viral halo]

Weapon X

[dusk patrol]

My thing is, at the least MacNiven always does the background stuff of the chapter pretty well

[queen laurel]

least murder looking hobo in new york city

[storm jungle]

Weapon X

[dusk patrol]

So if we get that I’ll be happy

[crystal forum]

i still dont understand

[dusk patrol]

I don’t care much if it mostly sucks then

[spring cairn]

i like how u tell him weapon x like he knows what it is

[queen laurel]

yeah it's basically the time he got his metal skeleton and claws

[viral halo]

Unironically, my friend went on a run in the city yesterday and got attacked by a crackhead

[queen laurel]

well

i certainly nailed that

[storm jungle]

imagine being a space marine aspirant but they are focused on destorying one guy's fucking life, thats what Weapon X is and what is being done to Logan as he gets his adamantium skeleton for the first time + the claws

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/wolverine-weapon-x-fortnite-challenge-emote-gif-9089893995583114589

[dusk patrol]

And he’s not Thorpe so the parts that suck will just be lots of generic bolter porn and not “this faction actually fucking sucks you bought a book for”

[queen laurel]

fortnite jump scare

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-fortnite-scream-fortnite-dance-gif-4795167745947838865

[dusk patrol]

“Fuck you for wanting to read about them”

[viral halo]

omfg lmfao

[fallen plaza]

😁

[dusk patrol]

The dude was also afraid of women and black dresses so

Even if he had some problematic views

[crystal forum]

i like how the only reason wolverine is canadian is because marvel wanted to pander to us

[dusk patrol]

I feel like he suffered enough lol

[spring cairn]

no that's because he fucking stinks

[viral halo]

he still fought for the US army though so he's spiritually an American

[crystal forum]

and yet in the movies he fights for the US in WW2 that pissed me off so much

[dusk patrol]

Also only became cool once he got to the US

Common Canadian problem

[crystal forum]

and the civil war too for some fucking reason

[dusk patrol]

Yes we’ll take your attractive and sexy people, no uggos please

[viral halo]

I believe he fled canada in the 1830s

[storm jungle]

"for some reason"

[viral halo]

to the US

[dusk patrol]

They’re ours now no take backsies

[crystal forum]

he's written by americans anyways

[storm jungle]

is killing slavers a bad reason to join a war

[queen laurel]

canadians coming to the US and suddenly evolving like pokemon

[viral halo]

He did canonically fight in WWII for the US army tho

[fallen plaza]

Marvel civil war

[queen laurel]

yes because you will crash the slave business

[storm jungle]

Same thing

[dusk patrol]

Tbh him and his brother kinda just wanted to kill mfers

[storm jungle]

you dont need any reason to kill southerners

[queen laurel]

And eternal reward will suffer monumental monetary losses

[storm jungle]

i thought the blood was camo for a sec

lmao

[dusk patrol]

Wdym

More slaves than ever in history

[crystal forum]

i guess it's asking too much for a comic book reader to know what canada was up to in WW2

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-gonna-love-this-kingpin-spiderman-business-is-booming-miles-morales-into-the-spider-verse-gif-24228394

[crystal forum]

spoider man

[viral halo]

I think it's moreso bc he fled canada after the whole killing his family thing

[dusk patrol]

Business is boomin

[viral halo]

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE METS BABY

[spring cairn]

why isn't he biting his neck or some other shit he does idk

[crystal forum]

or because he was written by americans

[plush mason]

welsh i think

[dusk patrol]

That’s more his brother

[storm jungle]

Sabretooth is based

[plush mason]

dude hated EVERYONE that wasnt pure angolosaxon

[spring cairn]

they look identical

[queen laurel]

spider verse kingpin built like an Ogryn

[crystal forum]

he should be pissing on his enemies like real wolverines

[storm jungle]

Wanted pie
Mom said no
He killed em both

[dusk patrol]

He does the stabby stabby

[storm jungle]

also i guess his family did lock him in the basement and ripped his canines out

but my boy victor was innocent

[dusk patrol]

Smallest Kingpin incarnation

[leaden pilot]

Damn someone actually hunched enough to fit comfortably in terminator armor

[crystal forum]

he's not even hunched that's all back muscle

[queen laurel]

Me trying to tell humans in marvel to respect mutants and maybe they will allow themselves to use their powers for greater good, only for them to skin me alive and say i am a heretic

[viral halo]

Sabretooth more like Schriebertooth

[crystal forum]

more like shrodinger tooth

[viral halo]

Liev Schrieber was a great choice to play sabretooth

[storm jungle]

Magneto wiping out the human race is always justified

[viral halo]

did you guys watch x men 97

[storm jungle]

Ultron decided it after spending 5 SECONDS on the itnernet

[storm jungle]

I did, peak show

[plush mason]

the fact Kingpin is canonically about the same size as the fucking hulk still gets me

[queen laurel]

true because warhammer fans will no longer worship and make the 4th Reich

[spring cairn]

very relatable

[viral halo]

that's because he hadn't watched Kimmy Granger likes it rough yet

[queen laurel]

that is a positive side effect i am willing to trade for

[storm jungle]

he saw the fatshark forums

[dusk patrol]

Mutants will always be a shit civil rights analogy smh

But it is fun

[crystal forum]

magneto and professor xavier best gay couple

[storm jungle]

Nah

idk why people say this nonsense

[dusk patrol]

Because it’s goofy

[storm jungle]

Its really not

[dusk patrol]

Gay people can’t fucking rip apart the earth if they get mad

[storm jungle]

Okay so?

thats not the point

[crystal forum]

that's what you think

[storm jungle]

also that lol

"Oh IRL minorities/pushed people dont do this"

[viral halo]

Pull up mutant crime statistics

[dusk patrol]

Because there’s a reason we would have to be concerned about people who can do shit like that

[storm jungle]

So can any other non-mutant supervillain in the marvel universe.

that doesnt mean mutants should be prosecuted when they need help lol

[dusk patrol]

Yes which makes the mutant thing even sillier for marvel a lot of times

[storm jungle]

Its comic book stuff so yeah lol

[plush mason]

you know, for a time i thought that preacher leading the anti-mutant crusaders on their genocide was hella goofy in how he was always allowed to get away with it, then i remembered i live in the American south

[spring cairn]

despite mutants only being 0.5% of the global population, they make up 95% of all genocide attempts

[dusk patrol]

I didn’t say persecuted

[crystal forum]

good thing martin luther king is still alive today instead of being assassinated for being too dangerous

[storm jungle]

google Hatemonger

[crystal forum]

oh wait

[dusk patrol]

But there’s a line between “persecuted” and “idk maybe this is something people would be right to fear”

[storm jungle]

Not factually correct when almost most extinction events in marvel come from non-mutant supervillains

[dusk patrol]

And also

[storm jungle]

or galactic threats

[dusk patrol]

Maybe this isn’t a good analogy for black people/gay people

[queen laurel]

Yes I am concerned for the heroes but I am even more concerned on this giant red guy turning me into a paste because he actually will willingly murk me

[plush mason]

no there isnt

[spring cairn]

all non-humans look the same to me

[dusk patrol]

Don’t you slander Juggernaut

[queen laurel]

it's not

[dusk patrol]

He’s not even a mutant

[plush mason]

in fact the only reason humans have to fear the mutants is because they attacked them for existing first

[storm jungle]

I heard the opposite from most actual people that get that treatment so I dunno chief. I trust their cases more than this

[viral halo]

Average Jewish Russian guy from brooklyn

[spare osprey]

Idk Truthhunter45 had some compelling arguments about thanos being a mutant fr

[storm jungle]

Genosha Moment

[dusk patrol]

There’s many cases of this not being true

[storm jungle]

And as many cases of it being true

even when mutants do nothing people will hate and wanna kill em

its not exactly wild when you look at the world today lol

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s called a cycle of violence

And when you use it to justify endless violence

[forest orbit]

Thats

really simplifying it

lol

[dusk patrol]

Then you make it only have one way to conclude

[storm jungle]

yeah lmao

[spare osprey]

Which is why we should all aim to be like J Jonah Jameson, mutant advocates and spider man haters

[plush mason]

because people are weak and can not control their emotions

[storm jungle]

That applies to almost everyone yeah

[dusk patrol]

Sorry I forgot to write a whole 500 page paper on the subject in discord

[forest orbit]

Im not asking for a whole paper, just more than "uh yeah people fight duh"

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

Obviously it’s more complex

[dusk patrol]

Well they will and do, that’s not hard to understand

[forest orbit]

Like as Dilara said people relate a lot to the xmen, at the end of the day its just comics but its still pretty prevalent in its messages and themes.

[queen laurel]

being scared of mutants is kind of justified because for example this kid he doesn't know it but he quite literally puffs up so much radiation that he can melt a human in to ash and wolverine killed him, but going out of your way to kill them one by one that's just asking for it, they deserve to live and they might be even able to control their powers

[storm jungle]

Yeah just because you disagree doesnt really mean their message doesnt work.

[dusk patrol]

It’s still a silly analogy

[forest orbit]

Nah

[plush mason]

but father stryker or whatever is a prime example of the hate normal people have for mutants

[forest orbit]

you just cant really accept it, and thats fine

[storm jungle]

Yep.

Like if the xmen's message was silly

or didnt work

it wouldnt have existed this long lol

[forest orbit]

More or less correct ye

[dusk patrol]

That’s not really how that works lol

[forest orbit]

It does lol

[dusk patrol]

There’s plenty of shit storylines or goofy concepts which still keep going

[forest orbit]

Okay so?

thats any media

still remains as it is

[storm jungle]

The core message is still there ye

its not really that hard to grasp

[queen laurel]

Watching people experiment on mutants only for that mutant to gain so much power and go out of their way to destroy the world is a never ending hilarious part of the story

[dusk patrol]

It’s not about grasping it, it’s obvious what it is

[plush mason]

the x-men story is still going strong because its still relevent to problems we have irl

[forest orbit]

^

[viscid grove]

Ork Logic:
*Oil floats on water
*Starts raining
*Ork covers Ork in oil
*Ork jumps
*Ork starts flying

[forest orbit]

its even more prevalent than it was back then

[dusk patrol]

It’s going strong cause people like the characters

[queen laurel]

nah that don't work

[viscid grove]

Elaborate

[plush mason]

that too, strong characters are the vassals that carry the messaging

[dusk patrol]

Hell most Wolverine stuff doesn’t even have anything to do with that concept anymore

[forest orbit]

This

[dusk patrol]

Like people love Doom

[storm jungle]

Yet we got about as many xmen comics that do

[queen laurel]

their WWWAAAAAAGGGHH belief can only act like a duck tape on reality not completely bend it with belief

[dusk patrol]

Despite his message not really being coherent or consistent

[forest orbit]

Okay and?

[queen laurel]

red paint belief works because it has a medium to work off of

[viscid grove]

Ah.

[spare osprey]

“I’m a tank” and its consequences have been a disaster for the ork race

[green loom]

(it also may or may not be confirmation bias)

[plush mason]

btf Logan has spent more time as a non-xmen than as an xmen

[dusk patrol]

Something being popular == its message is coherent or makes much sense as an analogy

It just means it’s popular

[queen laurel]

yeah WWWAAAAAGGGHHH ain't the most consistent

[forest orbit]

You constantly saying the Xmen's message is silly/not prevalent doesnt stop it from still doing that core concept to this day with even stuff like Krakoa

[dusk patrol]

I didn’t say they don’t do it

[plush mason]

true but for the X-men the messaging is clear and coherent

[forest orbit]

^

[dusk patrol]

I’m saying its a bad analogy still

[forest orbit]

Its not.

[dusk patrol]

It being popular doesn’t change that

[forest orbit]

I take the word of people that actually feel unwelcome by the world we sadly live in sometimes over someone like you, no offense.

[fallen plaza]

Chat trying not to put words in eternals mouth challenge (impossible)

[forest orbit]

and like, actually like the xmen lol

[plush mason]

persecution of others for things they cant control should never be socially acceptable behavior

[dusk patrol]

I love the x men

[storm jungle]

Zimmer not try to be snarky when everyone agrees with Eternal in a chat challenge (impossible)

[plush mason]

that is the X-men's message

[storm jungle]

or disagree i suppose lol

[viral halo]

Remember when Professor X beamed the holocaust back into Magneto's head

[forest orbit]

Cant get more simple than that

[green loom]

Mantis are lorge

[dusk patrol]

Interesting assumption you’re making there

Btw

[forest orbit]

Assumption?

[queen laurel]

HOLOCAUST RAYS

[forest orbit]

damn i guess the few queer friends i got who like Xmen for what it represents are fake

💀

[storm jungle]

mask off moment

rip

[fallen plaza]

My point has been proven even further

[dusk patrol]

Why would I not know what it’s like to be unwelcome in the world

[storm jungle]

Chat is this person real

[dusk patrol]

Or get that

I’d love to know how you know all about me

[forest orbit]

Do you like, actively get death threats for just being what you are or the way you act

id love to know about that

[plush mason]

im curious why you think its a bad analogy

[storm jungle]

He just assumes it doesnt work and that actual persecuted people should not be compared to mutants

[viral halo]

Dilara has threatened his life a few times in here yea

[storm jungle]

which is just weird

[dusk patrol]

I’m Jewish so yes I’ve definitely had some interesting experiences with people

[forest orbit]

So am I buddy lol

[viral halo]

My great uncle was in the SS, if we kiss we can fix the timeline

[forest orbit]

BRUH

[viral halo]

I wish I was kiding

[storm jungle]

what

[dusk patrol]

Ok so let’s not act like my point has anything to do with “do I think people can’t get something from it”

[plush mason]

the fact of the matter is, the messaging is about the fact none of the mutant asked to be mutants and where just born that way

[forest orbit]

You are the one pressing an issue where there isnt one

[dusk patrol]

My point is the analogy doesn’t work because of what it is

[forest orbit]

Okay sure, agree to disagree then.

[dusk patrol]

You’re the one putting words and ideas in my mouth so yes I’m going to keep pressing it

[storm jungle]

You literally do the same thing Eternal

[dusk patrol]

If it’s making you uncomfortable that I’m calling that out

[viral halo]

My family were German engineers that immigrated right after the war ended-do the math

[dusk patrol]

Where

[storm jungle]

its about as bad as your female custodian argument

if not worst

lol

[fallen plaza]

This again

[forest orbit]

Anyway like

[plush mason]

"people born with something that makes them different are actively attacked and persecuted for it" is the whole anology

[forest orbit]

nobody here agrees with you minus this Zimmer dude

lets leave it be lol

[dusk patrol]

I underwent what it is

[viral halo]

Eternal has the discord app open on his phone rn typing Zimmer messages

[plush mason]

its same with the mages in dragon's age

[queen laurel]

the two of them are actually straight up clones

[viral halo]

Speak your truth tho king I respect any one doubling down on their opinions in the face of overwhelming odds

[crystal forum]

eternal on his way to give his dissenting opinion on anything good

[queen laurel]

aye Quiet been a while

[forest orbit]

LOL

[dusk patrol]

My point is gay and black people are people, mutants do have a significant difference which can make them dangerous and why you’d want to keep track of them.

Marvel makes this cartoonish often by making the anti mutant people over the top but the analogy doesn’t work because gay people and black people or whatever else aren’t different really in anyway. They’re not dangerous.

[viral halo]

Eternal is good for this channel and community

[spare osprey]

That it has Steel Mouth

[dusk patrol]

Mutants very much potentially are

And marvel generally doesn’t engage with that in an interesting way

[plush mason]

keeping track of them is fine, the problem is people are full on genociding them mate

[forest orbit]

^

[dusk patrol]

Yes obviously

Which is my point I jsut said

Marvel has to make it goofy over the top

They don’t always

[viral halo]

Dwight Howard is gay and black, and was the 2011 NBA MVP. I'd say that's pretty comparable to Colossus

[dusk patrol]

The Wolverine story with the kid is a good example

[plush mason]

i mean, the shit stryker does is very grounded

[dusk patrol]

True tbh

[forest orbit]

"Not comparable" or not, the general audience for this message exists and likes it. Its obviously going to be goofy to a certain point because its a comic book, but having read recent Xmen material myself/Krakoa stuff i dont really think its "silly".

[dusk patrol]

I think it’s often well done, and I enjoy them

But I also don’t think it’s a good analogy often

[storm jungle]

Guy is a Nam vet, so not too surprising 💀

[spare osprey]

Now I’m just imagining someone fouling professor x

[spring cairn]

It is well known queer folks can flay ppl alive with their mind

[viral halo]

I learned what racism was through reading "jackie and me" and x men comics as a kid. Then began to harness its power in halo 3 and MW lobbies.

[spring cairn]

stay strapped everybody

[dusk patrol]

Because the ridiculousness of racism and homophobia is there is no reason to be that way because they’re not a threat and they’re people

[plush mason]

ngl explains his love of napalm lol

[rocky gale]

If I had a nickel for everytime I knew someone who's great uncle was in the SS, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

[spring cairn]

never know when one of dem gay gonna flay u alive

[crystal forum]

[dusk patrol]

This is true

[forest orbit]

Gotta keep those argentinian flights secure

[fallen plaza]

Come to Germany, you’ll be rich

[viral halo]

Yea my uhh grandfather explained the family tree to me when I was a kid and I uhh was shocked

[dusk patrol]

I often have to avoid gay people trying to flay me daily

[tardy path]

Has anyone here gotten the psyker desk job voice line?

[storm jungle]

[viral halo]

Not really shocked cause of all the medals on the wall

But like

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/gay-gif-25904420

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/998142263681093652.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[viral halo]

hang this comment up in the rafters

His twin brother was in the SA

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-19383676

I call being Heath Ledger

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/kissing-the-boss-oscar-smiling-friends-make-out-gif-4480069166454483751

[plush mason]

did he shoot his twin in the purge?

[spring cairn]

if you go past a few generation down my father's side you get ppl who served during the "uncool" germany aswell

[viral halo]

No but very good history knowledge

[fallen plaza]

I assume they run a lab underneath a volcano too

[viral halo]

They both died of old age peacefully in their sleep

[spring cairn]

lot's of ppl did back then so it's very likely if you're german

[forest orbit]

Man i hope they didnt die in a ditch somewhere

[viral halo]

Hold on I've got some schizo stuff from the family archives from my grandfather's personal correspondence

one moment

[spring cairn]

actually they all served in the airforce, so no

[plush mason]

i really really hope most people know about the purge of the SA still, but then they have been pushing for a long time to get any stuff about the Nazis out of schooling

[dusk patrol]

Fortunately on my other side my Argentinian grandfather doesn’t have any issues

[storm jungle]

Is this gonna be a Indiana Jones Lost Crusade situation where he has a autograph from Adolf

[forest orbit]

LOL

[dusk patrol]

Kinda weird how a blonde blue eyed guy got to Argentina but

[rocky gale]

There's family members of my friend who still have money from all the Nazi Gold, they'll regularly gift her shit and she'll be like "I.... I can't keep this"

[spare osprey]

If we’re talkin fixin timelines, my great something uncle was on the manhattan project

[dusk patrol]

He was industrious

[spring cairn]

many such cases

[dusk patrol]

Some reason we cut off there in the family history….

[storm jungle]

History unfolding before my eyes

[viral halo]

these are two of the crazier ones

[spring cairn]

cool bf-107

mmmmh

[storm jungle]

Most average 40k lore chat moment

[dusk patrol]

Damn your granddad was a Steel Legion cosplayer?!

Sick

[fallen plaza]

Nice google doc shitpost

[viral halo]

Just to preface my grandfather is NOT LEON DEGRELLE

[fallen plaza]

I should print it so I can wipe my ass with it

[viral halo]

That dude is supervillian evil

[rocky gale]

It's the Eternal Heresy, it never ends, it just waxes and wanes as people lose interest

[queen laurel]

Zimmer Shut the fuck up, because who asked for your Boring response?

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Ok but please use this art

[forest orbit]

Its probably clogged from the stick up in there tbh

[fallen plaza]

No one does, but i do so anyways

[storm jungle]

Alright guys we went through a fight already, not another one please.

[viral halo]

NOW KISS

[fallen plaza]

😁

[spring cairn]

wtf

[forest orbit]

He did seem like the type.

[spring cairn]

this guy is blowing cats

[forest orbit]

and I say this as the space marine dude

[storm jungle]

"just like romans" moment

[queen laurel]

aight here

[fallen plaza]

When in rome

[dusk patrol]

There we go

[viral halo]

So you're Jewish and have a Black Templars PFP, you like an undercover agent?

[crystal forum]

guys the nurgle marines are right behind you

[spring cairn]

"he's right behind me isn't he"

[fallen plaza]

Iron cross is apparently nazi?

[green loom]

That's a Maltese cross

[viral halo]

No lol, it's a joke about BT

[fallen plaza]

Fruitada

[spring cairn]

no one knows the difference anymore

[forest orbit]

I mean its the symbol of an order whos entire job was to murder muslims so lol

tattooing it on yourself is the first sign of being a tard imo

[crystal forum]

i love murder

[green loom]

Evil demon design
Uses cross of St Peter

[forest orbit]

ive seen way too many BT fans do it then go "wow people look at me weird"

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/pepeagony-agony-gif-20720352

[viral halo]

The trick is to get really jacked so people think it's okay

[forest orbit]

true....

[queen laurel]

you know what else to tattoing to yourself makes you look like a massive tard?

[fallen plaza]

Wearing anything military related like camo in public is usually the first sign of that in general

[crystal forum]

make it look like a prison tatoo and people wont say shit to you anymore

[forest orbit]

no no see thats the holy roman empire or w/e the fuck trust me bro totally not fascist

[dusk patrol]

Nah Nurgle marines were later on

[viral halo]

Getting this with a rainbow above it and a swastika in the center to confuse my enemies

[dusk patrol]

Those are Iron Warriors and Black Legion

[queen laurel]

the way of the twitter user

[queen laurel]

trans nazis

[viral halo]

warhammer twitter makes 4chan look like a daycare

[crystal forum]

what kind of weird WW1 ass flamer is the guy on the left carrying anyways

[spring cairn]

they don't even hold a candle to the OG's

furry nazis

[dusk patrol]

Power axe?

[crystal forum]

that's a power axe??

[viral halo]

The crossover between furry and nazi is VERY HIGH

people don't know that lore

[dusk patrol]

The front guy?

[green loom]

It's gotten slightly quieter now

[dusk patrol]

With the claw?

[green loom]

Because the weird grifters ate each other

[viral halo]

ya cause Bohemond stopped talking about warhammer I think cause he got a Cease and Desist from Geedubs

[spring cairn]

i love it because it gives me one more reason to diss them

[crystal forum]

the front iron hand on the left with the tube weapon

[green loom]

Hell yeah

What a fucking prick though

[crystal forum]

oh wait i see the blade now

[storm jungle]

Hes still yelling at the clouds about femtodes

like.. ive never seen such a sad existence in my life

[viral halo]

Just tiring

like

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s kinda an awkward angle to see

Iirc there’s a wider shot

[storm jungle]

I literally have him blocked and i still see him lol

[dusk patrol]

But I can’t find it

[viral halo]

LMAO

[fallen plaza]

Right, we can cut the femstode chat

[viral halo]

Twitter is insane now

[green loom]

The silent majority HATES these femoid invaders, trust me bro

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

Have you seen the Slur list

[plush mason]

leutin and bricky had the best take on this whole shit, its a pointless non issue that only serves to furter even more pointless culture wars

[storm jungle]

pretty much

also like

[viral halo]

Yea it's locked and loaded in my brain at all times for deployment

[storm jungle]

going past that issue

im literally

trying to watch a SM2 vid

[dusk patrol]

I’m always impressed by some slurs that you learn online ngl. Idk how people keep track of them.

[storm jungle]

and i get a fucking post on my feed

"omg asian ultramarine"

aaaaa

[green loom]

I'm really hoping the EU Pummel musk already or something

[spring cairn]

controversy is the second best engagement bait behind sex

[storm jungle]

Yeah but sex is at least good

ish

[queen laurel]

of course

[dusk patrol]

Mfw the 500 worlds can’t have any black, Asians or Hispanic people

[viral halo]

Ppl been complaining you can't change character race or something in customization (I am sure this will be fixed) and veiling their racism with MUH LORE ACCURATE

[storm jungle]

God fuck off with this nonsense

[spring cairn]

heavily context dependent

[viral halo]

like my brother in christ, you're WEARING A HELMET

[plush mason]

and technically its the first best one because you can use it everywhere

[storm jungle]

i understand being upset at some stuff but like if you're a racist at least hide it a bit better lol

[green loom]

You can't because they're all technically their own characters, which is odd but cool ig

[viral halo]

Never forget the book cover

[queen laurel]

nah there's being a casual racist then there's being a competitive racist

[viral halo]

that sent the world into a spin

[queen laurel]

warhammer fans are in the ranked championship

[viral halo]

I was diamond 1 in high school

[plush mason]

i mean. each class is a named character

[queen laurel]

of racism

[fallen plaza]

Black templars has a black people!!!!!????!?!

[viral halo]

I did not know this but I'm fine with it

[fallen plaza]

The silent majority REJECTS this

[green loom]

Obviously the Roman empire was led by and mainly populated by pale white, blue eyed blonde giants dolara

[plush mason]

yeah same

[queen laurel]

I swear do they think that these guys are just racist one race killing machines that only use melee weapons

[viral halo]

Dilara reading all this getting infuriated and hitting 50 push ups in her room

[queen laurel]

It's like they are recruited from planets

[plush mason]

yes

[queen laurel]

planets can have multiple races of people

[viral halo]

God I love 40k lore chat

[queen laurel]

how hard is that to connect

[green loom]

There was this fkn hilarious thread

[viral halo]

best internet community

[green loom]

Where some actual historian took a look at all the RETVRN like, roman statue accounts

[queen laurel]

Yes it full of deranged war mongering morons that are somehow agreeing with actual common sense

[crystal forum]

i love war

[fallen plaza]

Okay

Join one

[crystal forum]

no i want to cause one

[queen laurel]

yes you twink yes you do now join one

[crystal forum]

i want to assassinate and arch duke

[plush mason]

because common sense is the rarest trait of all so just having it is a massive ego boost :P

[green loom]

What's a bigger tell on someone

Black Templar PFP or generic roman statue

[queen laurel]

yes

[fallen plaza]

Can people seriously stop calling eachother twinks? Its not even gay its just weird

[queen laurel]

Roman statue

@forest orbit exists

[fallen plaza]

What if i called a women i dont know “busty” thats fuckin weird

[crystal forum]

roman statue might not be racist but he'll be complaining about degeneracy a lot

[queen laurel]

So there is a chance that tolerable black templars exist

besides him

[green loom]

I mean I know a few

[fallen plaza]

I own a color tv

[forest orbit]

I always gotta re-assure people im not a racist/homophobe every time they see my pfp 💀

[plush mason]

btw, when did twink and femboy swap meanings?

[dusk patrol]

I wouldn’t mind if they added alternative character heads tbf but mostly just for more customization

[storm jungle]

I for one am done with SM2

cant believe sabretooth has gone woke

[dusk patrol]

And for stuff like sallies and RG

[queen laurel]

Other people having your PFP they immediately assume you're the most competitive racist to exist

[fallen plaza]

Femboy and twink are definitely separate lol

[forest orbit]

^

Femboy is literally just a feminine boy, twink is just a cute smaller guy with lithe/thinner features

🤓

[queen laurel]

why do you know the difference

[storm jungle]

homie is putting that Chapter knowledge to use

[plush mason]

i know, but for the longest time i thought twink=skinny dude and femboy =gay skinny dude, but seems the invers is true?

[fallen plaza]

Common sense

[forest orbit]

Its not gay its more "looks feminine"

[queen laurel]

zimmer ain't beating the gay allegations

[forest orbit]

girls/guys wanna bang femboys in any capacity

[fallen plaza]

I never denied it

[forest orbit]

so i guess its more bisexual

[crystal forum]

they are very rare

which is why i joined the dark side