Unstable without their primarch, and he didn't have the exact resources for it in the beginning.
#40k-lore-chat
opaque coyote
He could've used Thunder Warriors but they were also unstable
And tended to stop following orders after a bit
Mainly due to going completely batshit insane
crystal forum
i still think he always wanted custodes to be his personal army
opaque coyote
Oh 100%
crystal forum
he wouldn't have made so many if it was just for protection
arctic talon
I mean they explicitly were his personal army
opaque coyote
he wouldn't have made so many if it was just for protection
Yup part of the reason was egi
opaque coyote
The other part was because he kinda needed a personal army to get thunder warriors and jump off from there
arctic talon
Kind of hard to have an actual genuine relationship with someone who’s always loyal to you
And uh
Other stuff lol
opaque coyote
Kind of hard to have an actual genuine relationship with someone who’s always lo...
Ego
arctic talon
I didn’t feel like I needed to say the quiet part out loud but yes
crystal forum
I mean they explicitly were his personal army
that always seemed pretty pathetic to me. it's like he wanted a core unit of super super humans who will kill whoever he wants in case the primarchs didn't work out
opaque coyote
I didn’t feel like I needed to say the quiet part out loud but yes
Also yeah due to the Emps being gone. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple went a bit rogue and started doing missions they think the Emperor would've wanted
crystal forum
he just wanted full control
opaque coyote
that always seemed pretty pathetic to me. it's like he wanted a core unit of sup...
A good leader can't be a good person
The emperor fails at both though
crystal forum
it's annoying when anybody defends this character
opaque coyote
Tbh I would defend some choices like the Great Crusade (on some level).
Specifically why the Emps decided to speed run instead of building up his Empire slowly.
I am not defending the genocide of other civilizations tho
That is not good
But I can defend the speed running on some level
crystal forum
a core part of 40k is how much the imperium has crumbled specifically because they put all their faith in a single person. it's like a giant statement on how no matter how extraordinary somebody is and how powerful they are, they cannot control everything on their own
that's my take
opaque coyote
a core part of 40k is how much the imperium has crumbled specifically because th...
That's also a reason why many empires fell in general
The problem with human psychology is that people love confidence
So when somebody says with absolute certainty
"I CAN FIX THIS!"
Some will follow
Even better if they're semi competent at doing so
The Emperor is a classic case of this
Just turned up to a billion
He had somewhat good intentions. His end goal WAS to have humanity all be like him
crystal forum
doesn't hurt that he's literally the most powerful human to ever exist in the setting
opaque coyote
Perpetual Psychic Gods with muscles bigger than the average human head
But his method was flawed
crystal forum
as they say the path to hell is paved with good intentions
opaque coyote
Some were due to actual reasons while the others were just him being braindented
Erda moment
Evil Emps be like "I am a good father and love my sons immensely"
opaque coyote
as they say the path to hell is paved with good intentions
He also didn't create a backup plan in case if he failed
crystal forum
he probably thought he was too strong to fail
opaque coyote
Because I definitely don't think him being a skeleton on a throne was part of his backup plan
crystal forum
the emperor certainly didn't lack self confidence
crystal forum
Because I definitely don't think him being a skeleton on a throne was part of hi...
it's funny how some people think this was his plan all along
opaque coyote
he probably thought he was too strong to fail
100%, hell the Inquisitors were made by Malcador last minute.
And even then they're archaic and idiotic
crystal forum
giving people unchecked supreme power lol
opaque coyote
He had 0 plans for a system without him
Because there never was one. It was supposed to be temporary
The Imperium in general was supposed to be temporary
It's a glorified waiting line for the Webway
crystal forum
now the imperium is formed from so many factions who have "ultimate" power
opaque coyote
Unfortunately the Webway plan got ruined by something who "did nothing wrong"
crystal forum
all at eachothers throats
opaque coyote
all at eachothers throats
At yet somehow it persists
The emperor failed them, but they still desperately try to do something with his dream
Maybe that's why he wanted to save humanity in the first place
Why he had faith in them
crystal forum
i dont agree, they're mostly all selfish
opaque coyote
Even though honestly I would rather throw the entire system away
opaque coyote
i dont agree, they're mostly all selfish
Humanity 101
plush mason
facts
opaque coyote
Fun fact about Alan Moore
crystal forum
yeah and that shithead decided to give up
opaque coyote
For most of his adaptations, he actually refused to put his name on them because they missed the nuance
storm jungle
yeah and that shithead decided to give up
yeah and it was the right decision
opaque coyote
Stuff like the Watchmen movie and all that
storm jungle
Why should a godly being care about humanity of all things in the entirety of the cosmos
storm jungle
For most of his adaptations, he actually refused to put his name on them because...
also yeah Moore is the peak definition of boomer
guy is literally a rasputin tier nutjob
opaque coyote
yeah and it was the right decision <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I think the best part to prove otherwise was that there was a side plot with a boy and a man. Basically they just talked to each other daily. Nice, simple human interaction. When Dr. Manhattan decided to blow up New York, you see a panel with the man over the boy, trying to guard him from the explosion.
They still both died
rose thorn
Oh we talking watchmen!!!
opaque coyote
Yeah I think the movie was actually decent for an adaptation but missed some of the nuance overall
rose thorn
I’m surprised we are getting another animated graphic novel of it
rose thorn
Me too lmao
storm jungle
also Comedian getting the shit beaten out of him is peak
storm jungle
oof same
opaque coyote
also yeah Moore is the peak definition of boomer
Oh yeah 100%, but he is right about most of the adaptations for his comics kinda sucking
Actually the only one where he allowed himself to be credited was for a Justice League Unlimited episode
The Black Mercy
storm jungle
Yeah that was such a weird one
he just also doesnt wanna find joy in anything either
lol
opaque coyote
I watched both it and read the comic
And honestly
Yeah the JLU episode is better
storm jungle
JLU does so much stuff right in general
opaque coyote
Basically the comic was weirdly political and honestly it kinda bogged down the emotional core
JLU did it right. It got the emotions perfectly
opaque coyote
JLU does so much stuff right in general
Banger show honestly
The original JL was good but a bit flawed in production.
Mainly because Superman was a bit wooden
But JLU looked back and fixed all of the flaws
While following up on threads in the original
And previous shows
storm jungle
the OG show definitely feels like a long "beta" period before Unlimited rolled around.
also some of the characters were just GYAAAAATT
opaque coyote
he just also doesnt wanna find joy in anything either
Honestly I think the only other author who compares is Rad Bradbury
AKA the author of 451
he was basically like
"UHH PHONE BAD"
storm jungle
Yeah i dislike any creator who hates their own work like a whiny ass kid, its fine to dislike your work but you shouldnt let it dictate your own life and works like that so much, same reason people like Van Gogh just annoying me dying thinking all their stuff sucked
opaque coyote
Yeah i dislike any creator who hates their own work like a whiny ass kid, its fi...
Tbf to Van Gogh, nobody bought his shit
So he died thinking it sucked because nobody really wanted it
Which is honestly just
Depressing honestly
opaque coyote
Harlan Ellison was also a bit weird but he did voice act for AM in future adaptations of I have no mouth
So at he doesn't think "phone bad"
And actually helps with adaptations of his works
rocky gale
I was not prepared for Van Gogh slander
opaque coyote
I was not prepared for Van Gogh slander
Yeah Van Gogh's story in general was just
Depressing
He basically didn't really have much of a chance
If only society appreciated his work before he
Y'know
Died
But that goes a good chunk of artists tbh
Especially those with less typical styles
rocky gale
Like he wasn't depressed because his painting didn't sell, he had a legit psychiatric disorder and would suffer regular bouts where he required hospitalisation over it, plus the whole "He was a good artist because he suffered" thing is also bullshit, art was his healing not his pain, he didn't paint to make money he painted because it made him feel better and his best works were done while he was healthy and recovering, not when he was suffering.
opaque coyote
Like he wasn't depressed because his painting didn't sell, he had a legit psychi...
"he was a good artist cause he suffered"
Suffering does not equal artistic achievement
rocky gale
That's what I said
plush mason
guy is literally a rasputin tier nutjob
near immortality and all?
opaque coyote
If suffering made artistic achievement then every imperial citizen would create masterworks
plush mason
no, they would make works that even the gods would envy
plush mason
the drukarhi agree
rocky gale
Suffering makes artistic achievements
Here, let me help you to make art 🔨
opaque coyote
Suffering makes artistic achievements
I think somebody unironically tried to recreate the Fulgrim painting
Yk the one that was described to be made out of bodily fluids.
Except with actual paint
It actually looks good
plush mason
you mean he only made one blood painting?
well i assume it was before he went full daemon mode
and started turning people into crack to snort
rocky gale
It was a painting of Fulgrim, not a painting made by him
opaque coyote
you mean he only made one blood painting?
No the Serena D'Angelus one
plush mason
oh
opaque coyote
It was a portrait of him
plush mason
who made it?
rocky gale
Serena D'Angelus
opaque coyote
plush mason
Serena D'Angelus
who was that? one of the remembrancers attacthed to his legion?
rocky gale
Yea
plush mason
ok
winter vessel
speaking of art, anyone see that one piece on the Maraviglia, so cool. not official, but i'd think it captures the event pretty well
rocky gale
This one?
crystal forum
Why should a godly being care about humanity of all things in the entirety of th...
i don't see that from his story, at least from the movie. i see him more like a jaded person who was hurt too much by his humanity to care anymore. He very well could have helped humanity but he thought he was above that somehow. I think it's similar to how anybody can become apathetic to their empathetic side no matter what their position is in the grand scheme of things. i might be overanalyzing a snyder movie too
opaque coyote
Serena D'Angelus
Yeah due to it being made by a Slaanesh Daemon and also made out of piss, shit, and other bodily fluids... It smelled awful
It was also possessed by a Daemon
So while you're looking in horror or awe
Maybe both
You're getting your soul rent apart and turned into slurry
winter vessel
This one?
YEAH, I love it. One of those rare moments where a visual on the insanity of Chaos is really emphasized. both beauty and madness inducing
rocky gale
Pretty sure Bricky commissioned this piece
opaque coyote
Beautiful and disgusting
rocky gale
Yea the piece is called "The Music of the Third"
opaque coyote
If you look at Maraviglia alone it is beautiful
Until you see the Daemons, the ECs
And the structure behind her.
Also I think her dress is made out of flesh?
rocky gale
And the artist wished to remain anonymous
plush mason
the story says she had fused to the conductor's podium
opaque coyote
And the artist wished to remain anonymous
Disappointing honestly
But understandable
plush mason
and was still contorting and singing dispite being very very dead
winter vessel
funniest moment in that whole madness was the 3rd Legion space marines rushing to the stage to play the instruments just so they can keep it going.
plush mason
yup
opaque coyote
and was still contorting and singing dispite being very very dead
I am now imagining her Fortnite dancing
Doing the griddy on stage
winter vessel
picturing giant men struggling to strum the strings
plush mason
fuck you, back to the warp with that hellspawn image
opaque coyote
picturing giant men struggling to strum the strings
"FUCK HOW DO I-"
Breaks string again
"I REALLY WISH I WASN'T FUSED TO MY ARMOR RIGHT NOW!"
storm jungle
i don't see that from his story, at least from the movie. i see him more like a ...
Thats basically what i said lmao
plush mason
not you btw @winter vessel
opaque coyote
fuck you, back to the warp with that hellspawn image
plush mason
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> <:KEKW_ogryn...
im sorry but Maraviglia doing the griddy on the stage is just too heretical for even my world eater ass
opaque coyote
https://youtu.be/7sX1UydCWaM?si=GmbWvvwjMHBe46GE
Noise Marine: "KICKING? I WANNA DO SOME KICKING!"
kicks world water
Berserker: "WHY I OUGTHA..."
fight noises until the outside of the building
Noise Marine makes incredibly loud pain noise
"...whoever's the owner of the Leman Russ. You left your lights on."
Trumpet noises as EC tightly walks
tough haven
Do we have any idea when mechanicus 2 might come out? I am dying for it
crystal forum
Thats basically what i said lmao
yeah but you said it in a nerdy way
storm jungle
yeah but you said it in a nerdy way
shut up nerd DIDNT ASK
crystal forum
storm jungle
tough haven
INLOAD IT INTO MY CEREBRUM!!
opaque coyote
shut up nerd DIDNT ASK
Average World Eaters conversation
Actually it'd probably be more like
storm jungle
Do we have any idea when mechanicus 2 might come out? I am dying for it
We got nothing but the teaser atm i think
opaque coyote
"RAAAAHHH AAAAAAAA-"
"BLOODBLOODBLOODBLODD RAAAAAHHH"
They begin fighting each other
Their nails were biting
tough haven
Then we must pray and perform the ritual of expedient development on loop until it is out
opaque coyote
Then we must pray and perform the ritual of expedient development on loop until ...
Don't do it wrong tho.
The Ritual of Micro transactions only has a one note difference
tough haven
We must all focus on the ritual’s completion together, tech comrades
opaque coyote
Honestly I think a joke that I remember from TTS is them mentioning that "Skyrim rereleased recently"
In the 41st millennium, ES6 still hasn't come out
winter vessel
Noise Marine: "KICKING? I WANNA DO SOME KICKING!"
*kicks world water*
Berserke...
Now I wanna see Nightlords being the flag twirlers, Abbadon: "flag twirlers lets move! come on MOVE!" flies up in the air and strikes battle barge down
opaque coyote
Now I wanna see Nightlords being the flag twirlers, Abbadon: "flag twirlers lets...
"How's that Harmonica solo coming Serf"
"It's tremendous! Wanna see?"
Cue footage of serf desperately trying to play Space Marine sized harmonica
Also I need to do this one. Because it's funny
winter vessel
accurate . "well, this is our last night together before the show", "and I know that you haven't improved since we began..." Khorne berserker gnawing on trumpet made of bones
opaque coyote
Bloodthrister: "Well maybe we wouldn't sound so bad if some Daemons didn't try to play with BIG MEATY CLAWS."
Daemonette: "What did you say brute?"
Bloodthrister: "BIG. MEATY. CLAWS."
Daemonette: "WELL THESE CLAWS AIN'T JUST FOR ATTRACTING MATES."
Bloodthrister: "BRING IT ON SLUT. BRING IT ON!"
Pink Horror: "No people, let's be smart and bring it off."
Plaguebearer: "Oh so now the bootleg Slaanesh looking MF is gonna preach to us!"
winter vessel
this is great.
winter vessel
I want one on Pizza Delivery, but its with an Iron Warrior and Imperial Fist. "BACK IT UP" Land Raider goes in reverse
opaque coyote
I want one on Pizza Delivery, but its with an Iron Warrior and Imperial Fist. "B...
"HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DEFEND THIS WALL WITHOUT MY SOLDIERS?"
winter vessel
"HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DEFEND THIS WALL WITHOUT MY SOLDIERS?"
“Haven’t you once think of the Noblility?”
“You call yourself a son of Dorn?”
“Well I ain’t buyin” slams door
IW: Fist?… Fist? It’s okay…Fist?
IF starts crying
shell mason
No rp
storm jungle
shell mason
lmao
wintry scarab
I have really fucking bad arachnophobia and i just saw a spider the size of my fucking palm on the floor. I killed it but i am in full fight or flight mode. I spayed it and now i have a dead ball the size of a space marine mini on my floor
i have no clue how to get rid of it
storm jungle
LMAO
As a person with arachnophobia that sounds fucking horrific, i prob could not sleep in that room before checking every nook and cranny
💀
wintry scarab
I am literally sat here watching its corpse. I want to die
storm jungle
make sure its dead-dead and just wrap it in 2-3 layers of tissues depending on the size and just flush it
or like, get a long stick or something
fucking insects
wintry scarab
I am alone at home for the next few weeks as well.
wintry scarab
Yeah, its defo getting the long stick treatment
storm jungle
Yeah nah if its that big get a stick
i usually only do the tissue treatment to the smaller ones
i dont want that shit twitching in my palm when im getting rid of it bruh 💀
green loom
I had a dream last night where bugs were crawling out the walls in droves
In reality I only get the odd palm-sized centipede
storm jungle
yeah uh
that happens in a movie called Arachnophobia i also watched as a kid
never again
wintry scarab
Spider warning! The crime scene.
hallow plover
I've got a shitload of long-legged ones in my home
green loom
that happens in a movie called Arachnophobia i also watched as a kid
I've never watched anything like it but my mind likes to actively torture me
hallow plover
Those that are just a ball and long legs
wintry scarab
Its in such a small, cramped space as well so ill have to drag it out first 😭
wintry scarab
I have dread this day and it has now come.
wintry scarab
Dont even say that bruh
wintry scarab
Deeds done. I am a fully grown man and i am so fucking jumpy rn
Feels like i just fucking killed a lion
Hoover saved me and now that hoover is sat in my parents room till they get back.
shell mason
yo
wintry scarab
Fuck spiders man. All my homies hate spiders
shell mason
shout out to the homies worshipping the greater good
storm jungle
Fuck spiders man. All my homies hate spiders
Why did evolution have to create such a freakish monster ill never know
winter vessel
Nah
plush mason
WHY DO CAMEL SPIDERS EXIST
to punish us
plush mason
damn things are older than the damn dinos and exist purely to spite us
storm jungle
no
plush mason
i like spiders
sure i like them, so long as they are outside of a 500 foot radius of my fat ass
shell mason
could make that a weight joke but no
plush mason
could make that a weight joke but no
see that is the joke, im fat but none of said fat is in my ass lol :P
storm jungle
to be fair
jumping spiders are actually cute
others not so
lmao
that thing literally fits on your fingertip form how tiny it is
shell mason
plush mason
they keep mosquitoes away
like yeah they are more than welcome to keep the flying mistakes of nature away, just so long as they do it OUTSIDE my house
shell mason
so loving
plush mason
shell mason
Have ya'll never lived in the country before?
plush mason
i have for most of my life, its why i have arachnophobia
like i love spiders as animals dont get me wrong
that doesnt stop my brain from going ether "panic and freeze" or "scream and kill it"
plush mason
huh?
shell mason
determining going to gym
like going early cause less crowded
but I had to work overtime and now its semi late
storm jungle
that doesnt stop my brain from going ether "panic and freeze" or "scream and kil...
My logic with insects is like
at least 1 female insect makes a hundred or thousand babies
me killing 1 basically changes nothing lol
im not gonna feel bad about it, its not like i go out of my way daily to kill bugs anyway
plush mason
ofc
young pecan
jumping spiders are actually cute
Apparently jumping spiders have a capacity for some emotion
Or at least recognizing faces
storm jungle
Lmaooo
shell mason
I mean its ab day so I could make it work
storm jungle
that is funny
young pecan
Unsure how true that is but I'd like to imagine it is
shell mason
what do ya'll think?
plush mason
phobias be phobias though, no matter now much i tell myself i have no reason to fear the little 8 leg no amount of logic and reason will over come it
storm jungle
what do ya'll think?
Leg day focus
storm jungle
green loom
Wish I could go to the gym
shell mason
so technically I can make legs tomorrow
shell mason
<:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
there you happy now?
anyway
I'll return later
keep chat alive til then
gray umbra
The abs of a phobos pattern space marine unit can push pull me if u know what i mean
wintry scarab
Someone mentioned the movie arachnophobia before and that reminded me of the movie scene that got me a while back when i first saw it. Still dont like it after watching it again lol.
storm jungle
god this fucking movie
the wya it backs into the corner is just HUERGH
And a fucking tarantula too
YEET
wintry scarab
For me the ones that get me the most are the huntsmen looking ones. Similar to the one i killed. Where they look like they are fast as fuck. And they probably are.
But at the end of the day, if it has eight legs, i very much dont like it
dusk patrol
the wya it backs into the corner is just HUERGH
It’s symbolism for how many poor people saw this movie high and will never recover
storm jungle
Mysterio deffo went off on the deep end
storm jungle
For me the ones that get me the most are the huntsmen looking ones. Similar to t...
Camel Spiders deffo are my worst nightmare but the longer legged ones are about as bad yeah
like the moment i think about them my back starts to itch eurgh
green loom
So apparently the 40k wikis are being hit with mass edits
wintry scarab
Idk if this is a hatchling but It was just on my wall. (Its tiny) In my paranoid state I really do not like the implications of this thing.
I am not goint to get any sleep today, i can already tell
storm jungle
So apparently the 40k wikis are being hit with mass edits
what did they do now
storm jungle
Based
covert kiln
the only sensible solution is to burn the house down
cant have spiders in your house if theres no house to begin with
storm jungle
bro thats the 3rd fucking one
it also looks different too
HOW MANY SPECIES IS IN THAT ROOM
wintry scarab
I think im starting to believe in god and he does not like me
I havnt seen a big spider in like half a year
why now in the span of like 30mins
storm jungle
its legit hilarious how every one thats been in your room looks completely different
its like hunting season
first one called in the backup
wintry scarab
This one ran away after i sprayed it and its inbetween the gym equipment
i cant see it 😦
I am literally playing a five nights at freddys game irl. Im sat here curled up on my chair with a torch, looking around like a maniac
Omg, where did it even come from bruh?!
shell mason
still on spiders?
storm jungle
I am literally playing a five nights at freddys game irl. Im sat here curled up ...
At least in this case spider jumpscares are worse
shell mason
I mean
wintry scarab
Ok, so the only theory i have is that the smell of raid poison in my room fucked with a spider that was already in my room hidden somewhere making it expose itself
i am going into as schizo meltdown at 1 in the morning. This fucking sucks
wintry scarab
omg, i think i found the corpse
raven stone
Maybe it is a a sign from god to get you to sleep…
wintry scarab
Well it aint fucking working
Im running out of raid as well
jesus
My lord. It was in an open spot, looked dead. Just hoovered up the corpse. Now back to looking round my room
rocky gale
Wow rude
rocky gale
Yea that's fairly normal
rocky gale
Nuh uh
storm jungle
get em
rocky gale
They're a vital part of the rooms ecosystem
rocky gale
So long as they stay within designated areas
storm jungle
lmfao
shell mason
They're a vital part of the rooms ecosystem
thats what im saying
they like pest control
but free
plush mason
untill they deside that your ear would make a better home
shell mason
untill they deside that your ear would make a better home
nuh uh
surreal nest
man i wish darktide was just about chaos undivided that would have been sick
plush mason
arent undivided cults kinda rare-ish
storm jungle
man i wish darktide was just about chaos undivided that would have been sick
Nurgle works better from a gameplay standpoint + level visuals
surreal nest
the cool thing about story telling is that often it's about the unexpected
storm jungle
theres a reason the phage tree in dreyko kicks ass
wintry scarab
I have enough raid for like 1 more kill then im out. There is nearly no liquid in the can. I havnt seen a spider bigger than an ant in my house for around half a year and i have seen 2 in 30 mins. And they are fucking huge. This is no exaggeration, all plans of sleep have gone out the window. I am now just waiting for the next bastard.
arctic talon
idk would be awkward for trash mobs
imo
nurgle is kind of perfect for a horde shooter as guard
surreal nest
Nurgle works better from a gameplay standpoint + level visuals
yeah i guess that but i feel like genestealers could have been done just as well tbh
storm jungle
ehhh
surreal nest
Just deranged people
storm jungle
yeah nurgle works better
shell mason
ya'll just weird
arctic talon
deranged people can use guns
storm jungle
its why in vermintide the Rotbloods just sending starved cultists in massive waves at you is a bit lol
surreal nest
They do use guns in this game
storm jungle
well yeah the shooters do
arctic talon
Okay but that isn't a pox walker equivelent
what the fuck would the horde be made out of
storm jungle
Like...
1st gen cultists i guess???
but like why would there be 100 on them in the screen at a time
poxwalkers are enormously better
surreal nest
Vibes and shit
shell mason
kinky
storm jungle
shell mason
they still people
arctic talon
he's having a good time with those demo charges
shell mason
that you?
storm jungle
cant blae him id too
surreal nest
I wish all nurgle fans chronic constipation your faction is snoozefest
arctic talon
I don't even like nurgle the most
out of the chaos gods lol
my favorite one is Slaanesh or Tzeentch
arctic talon
shame hedonites rules seem to suck in AoS 4e
storm jungle
I wish all nurgle fans chronic constipation your faction is snoozefest
shutupnobodyasked alsohopeyouturnintoapoxwalker
arctic talon
I was considering buying some
rocky gale
shame hedonites rules seem to suck in AoS 4e
Yea they just made the 3rd edition Faction rule less fun and called it a day
arctic talon
I have sylvaneth and ossiarchs
rocky gale
Condolences on the Sylvaneth
arctic talon
Ossiarchs at least came out decent, Sylvaneth I'm not sure how I feel about the over reliance on a single spell
like
why
surreal nest
shutupnobodyasked alsohopeyouturnintoapoxwalker
i wanna be a groaner i wanna shamble around and make sillly sound fuck man
arctic talon
my fucking trees 
rocky gale
and you need four of them for certain Stratagems
arctic talon
with pigeon hoeling sylvaneth
shell mason
Condolences on the Sylvaneth
for some reason i thought of fear and hunger when you said that
arctic talon
I have awakened wildwoods 3d printed and acquired from other sources like aquarium stuff
rocky gale
Smart
rocky gale
My friend love their models and has the new Allariel model, but the Wildwoods are keeping him from actively collecting the faction
arctic talon
mmmmm yess
arctic talon
My friend love their models and has the new Allariel model, but the Wildwoods ar...
tell him to look into aquarium plants
surreal nest
mmmmm yess
holy fuck you need to carry around 4 of those for every game?
shell mason
BAHAHAHAAHAHA
arctic talon
I wish it was only 4 fucking trees lol
shell mason
anyway what are ya'll talking about?
rocky gale
Yea, there's a strat which gives you points for having four of them on the Battlefield at the end of the game, but yea you ideally need more
surreal nest
this is why im gods greatest skaven player i will just use gnawholes and 400 dollars worth of clanrats
shell mason
oh that fantasy version of warhammer
arctic talon
Yea, there's a strat which gives you points for having four of them on the Battl...
GW said there would be big rewrites for some factions in their battletomes
So
PLEASE
STOP IT WITH THE FUCKING WILDWOODS
rocky gale
mmmmm yess
Yea, just remove the Wildwood reliance
arctic talon
I think I'd be fine
if a single one was mandatory
because it would be fluffy + fun
but the fact I need like 3+
is 
rocky gale
It'd be fine if like they came in a box with like 5 trees and each tree counted as a Wildwood
But no, the fact GW expect you to buy like 5 boxes of tree terrain pieces just to run your army
arctic talon
I need 9 fucking trees(practically speaking)
for sylvaneth this edition lol
I have 6 which feels like the minimum I want
I will be obtaining 3 more somehow
Also no more overgrown terrain is lame
rocky gale
I'm glad to be a Flesheater collector, our terrain piece is like a fun optional bonus rather than a hard requirement
arctic talon
tbh
Ossiarchs are free
of needing terrain
I just really like Sylvaneth though lol
shell mason
3d print them
arctic talon
I've been finding myself playing more ossiarchs
arctic talon
3d print them
I already have
Prolly gona go for aquarium + 3d printed bases for the 3rd set
rocky gale
Sylvaneth have some great models
shell mason
ah
rocky gale
Love these three
arctic talon
also they defy the usual expectation of elf = squishy
you get a quite mobile, durable army
well durable for the units that need to be durable
rocky gale
Dryads could use an update though
arctic talon
they could
Sylvaneths archers and wizards are kind of squishy but they have like 2 wounds at least
dusk patrol
well durable for the units that need to be durable
Me and the lads bringing in the Aetheric Orange to the forest folk.
(They have a few valuable items which are rightfully ours)
rocky gale
Me and the girls riding to the defence of the Forest on our Noble Pegasi (We are going to succumb to our delusion and consume friend and foe alike)
dusk patrol
If lice had a god to pray to.
arctic talon
Me and the lads bringing in the Aetheric Orange to the forest folk.
Smh the trees will pay back the debt once services are provided
fallen plaza
crystal forum
crystal forum
isnt this fucking awesome
these guys are single handedly feeding my valhallan addiction
and i posted this before but
can we please admire this shadowsword proxy
PLEASE
FEAST YOUR EYES
crystal forum
fallen plaza
I would like it more without the silly sponsons
crystal forum
i think the sponsons are optional
fallen plaza
I think this would be better serve as an omega proxy
rose thorn
honeslty if you need to write lore for why your tech is different
there is so many patterns of eveyrthing
you can jsut say the resources are better fit to make this olrder model
crystal forum
it's only tabletop that has sucky generic shit
rose thorn
maybe these are resistnatn to the cold
crystal forum
lore is full of variants
fallen plaza
Who said you needed justification
rose thorn
ye
rose thorn
Who said you needed justification
youd be suprised
fallen plaza
And also, cold resistance? Lmao this is an open topped vehicle
rose thorn
And also, cold resistance? Lmao this is an open topped vehicle
the engine wotn freeze?
idk i was making shit up
fallen plaza
like just look at these special guns
Would fit perfectly for millitia
rose thorn
also we have had worse
rose thorn
like just look at these special guns
i need space pirate bits for my genestealer cutl tbh
arctic talon
That flamer def isn’t generic lol
fallen plaza
That flamer pattern is pretty rare nowadays
arctic talon
The melta and gl are normal
crystal forum
nah the GL is weird too
arctic talon
That flamer pattern is pretty rare nowadays
Literally
Only the uh Valhallan minis have it
arctic talon
nah the GL is weird too
Dkok use a similar one
fallen plaza
Literally
Kinda wished we had a cosmetic for it in DT
That isn't paid
I miss VT illusions
crystal forum
https://www.patreon.com/posts/new-release-tank-98697591
anyways i highly recommend this if any of you print
these guys rock
just 14$ for everything they ever made
dont be a bitch, pay them
fallen plaza
This is probably my favorite malcador proxy ever
It is very overpriced though if I remember correctly
crystal forum
looks like a stubby malcador
arctic talon
Fat malcador
fallen plaza
The original malcador is great
But I can see this fitting more with the solar aux aesthetic
crystal forum
even pricier than 40k guard with none of the benefits of fun
arctic talon
You forgot the part where the Dracosan is so bad
It’s like
Literally throwing to use it
arctic talon
Lol
crystal forum
this is why i create custom rules for my valhallan boys
fallen plaza
Also damn this is chunkier than I thought
crystal forum
real one is like 2x the length
arctic talon
Guards codex is prolly gona be good regardless lol
crystal forum
it's massive
arctic talon
shame guard players insist on running dogshit in comp play and then saying their army is bad
crystal forum
good thing comp is for losers
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part time loser
arctic talon
I just think the whining an army is bad
is unfounded
the only part of guard thats like bad is Baneblades
fallen plaza
That's silly
crystal forum
i have evolved past this
arctic talon
because its always the fucking baneblade
arctic talon
thats not true
fallen plaza
I think cadians are dogshit regardless of rules
fallen plaza
Sorry, C#dian
fallen plaza
For all the flak I give GW, I don't think they are idiots, there assholes, but not idiots
crystal forum
i find better models made by philipinos in their shed
fallen plaza
There rules writers are though
arctic talon
LOL
rose thorn
also nocturne is bad
fallen plaza
It's a FUCKING vampire in the FUCKING castleVANIA
arctic talon
i find better models made by philipinos in their shed
me when subjective taste
rose thorn
the last 3 minutes of teh anime made it good
arctic talon
I think some proxies look ugly as shit lol
rose thorn
It's a FUCKING vampire in the FUCKING castleVANIA
wHEHhah a
arctic talon
but I don't say all proxies are bad
crystal forum
good thing there's 100 proxies for every model
arctic talon
same with me finding some GW stuff ugly as shit
yeah and sometimes all of them are bad
LOL
crystal forum
look harder
arctic talon
No
fallen plaza
I think saying "third parties do it all better" Is a bit misleading
crystal forum
im just saying 40k models got quality issues and arent that good for the insane price
crystal forum
they absolutely do
arctic talon
if you name a kit from 2003 and its finecast I'm strangling you
fallen plaza
And dream
crystal forum
lol
fallen plaza
Um, it's actually the Cato sciarius finecast model 🤓
arctic talon
also if it is defective you can literally just send a support ticket
and they'll send you a new box
The cato sicarius finecast model is genuinely one of the better ones
because it was designed for finecast
fallen plaza
I remember the horror stories of finecast
arctic talon
and not a pewter mould they shovled resin into
rose thorn
I think saying "third parties do it all better" Is a bit misleading
honestly, if you play a game or an amry that uses models older then you, than yeah its mostlyr ight
arctic talon
I own an eldar mini older then me
fallen plaza
I've heard someone had a Harlequin army that melted mid game
rose thorn
good hting there isnt a game that only uses 30+ year old models...
crystal forum
the HH combat force box i got with mk3 power armour came with a lot of warped bits
swords and shit
not straight at all
arctic talon
Okay define warped
like
okay then contact GW support
they will literally send you a new box
thats not even a joke
fallen plaza
There is a genuine issue with some of them though
crystal forum
i bought third party are you insane i cant physically afford GW prices here
arctic talon
And thats the first time I've heard the Mk3 kit came like fucked
arctic talon
i bought third party are you insane i cant physically afford GW prices here
you can still contact GW support
if you bought third party
you know that right
crystal forum
no i dont
arctic talon
fallen plaza
My main complaint with the HH kits is how you assemble the studded shoulderpads
Like what
arctic talon
injection mould moment
the FW team wanted perfect orbs
but you can't get that with injection moulding as a whole piece
crystal forum
says who
fallen plaza
Fucking Gundam had one piece shoulder pads for decades
fallen plaza
Let's not pretend third parties aren't immune to that
arctic talon
Thats just tabletop wargaming as a whole as well
GW is like
the least bad major company for this
Fires of War and bolt action ahve some
CHOICES
crystal forum
Let's not pretend third parties aren't immune to that
i dont have seams when i print 
arctic talon
fallen plaza
i dont have seams when i print <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Do you print in one piece like a sociopath
arctic talon
I'd assume so
crystal forum
yes i do because im not a fucking BABY
arctic talon
It still looks worse then assembling imo
crystal forum
it does not
fallen plaza
Btw
fallen plaza
If anyone wants to test print my solar aux proxies there free to dm me
crystal forum
maybe
arctic talon
because thats a thing that can happen
you can usually tell if its warping or like
damage
crystal forum
i honestly forgot about that box i need to get around to doing it
arctic talon
because I bought a box once
fallen plaza
Hobbyist moment
crystal forum
it might have been squished in transport
arctic talon
was really funny though
crystal forum
the boxes are packed so tight
crystal forum
the leviathan box was sturdy AF
arctic talon
genuinely packed till they're bursting
Yeah
some of them are study
but the age of darkness box is really flimsy
crystal forum
i honestly cant even fit the shit back into the box even if i tried
crystal forum
but i guess over 300$ for plastic is asking too much from poor little GW
arctic talon
its pretty rare to see actual like production errors in plastic
okay see the prices are a valid complaint
but I think calling GW product low quality or inferior is stupid unless you're talking about Resin/finecast
in which that case yeah it is low quality
finecast sucks dick
crystal forum
i think it's still stupid and i see really good models not made by those british fucks
doesnt justify their costs
arctic talon
I never said the cost was justified
I'm just saying that statements about the sculpts being bad are stupid
crystal forum
the costs are my main thing here
arctic talon
Then say the costs are the issue
crystal forum
price wise it's stupid
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nah it's related
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if im paying this much im expecting like micrometer details
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because money
fallen plaza
crystal forum
i dont paint much to be honest
arctic talon
crystal forum
i like assembling
arctic talon
Okay
well if we're just assembling then sure
but you're meant to paint + build minis
there is such a thing as too many fucking details
crystal forum
return back to shit can details
arctic talon
thats literally painted on
crystal forum
i would have been so impressed if i was 6
it is my humble opinion that early 40k looked like barf
arctic talon
its somewhat adorable
1e stormcast are an example of too much detail
to the point where GW's team just painted them entierly fucking gold and called it a day
instead of picking out the details
like holy fucking shit
can you imagine edge highlighting this crap
there's so many goddamn pieces
fallen plaza
it is my humble opinion that early 40k looked like barf
You look like barf
arctic talon
there's one thats way worse lol
fallen plaza
You should see the khrybdis assault drop pod
arctic talon
arctic talon
I think 1e stormcast were genuinely way too detailed
for an average painter to want to actually tackle
oh also this dude
Mr detail himself
Literally every single fucking bit of him but his left leg is covered in detail
fallen plaza
I dunno why
Normally i hate this kind of stuff
But, why do I like it?
Om conflicted
crystal forum
because it's painted by people who drink acrylics
arctic talon
But, why do I like it?
because its painted incredibly well
Eavy metal genuinely knocked it out the fucking park painting the 1e stormcast because I feel like their hands were bleeding by the end of it
crystal forum
then you get this shit
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did painting standards go up or something
crystal forum
wtf man stop being old you fucks
arctic talon
Painting standards nowadays are far more like
sophisticated?
also just the average painters skill is up as well
people have access to proper tutorials now
those catachan are from 1999
lol
queen laurel
oh also this dude
I forgot gelt lived right
fallen plaza
then you get this shit
If you see the unpainted one its actually not bad
crystal forum
If you see the unpainted one its actually not bad
the muscle lines really ruin it
too dark
arctic talon
The sculpt itself isn't bad
but I think you can really see how much painters have improved
queen laurel
Balthas Arum is prolly gelt
well i just hope that Felix is around so that Gotrek can find him
arctic talon
He's prolly around
crystal forum
but I think you can really see how much painters have improved
no i dont because i just assemble stuff 
crystal forum
*than
arctic talon
or arguably like Sanguinary Guard from the blood angels
arctic talon
they read more like Chaos Warriors/Custodes mixed together to me
then Space Marines
queen laurel
they read more like Chaos Warriors/Custodes mixed together to me
wolf is an average chaos chosen basically 1 to one match against an average stormcast
arctic talon
stormcast honestly aren't even in my top 3 for AoS factions aesthetically
arctic talon
wolf is an average chaos chosen basically 1 to one match against an average stor...
lore wise average Stormcast is a match for Chaos Warriors
on the tabletop chaos warriors are better on average bcs the armies are balanced differently
crystal forum
i opened the battleforce box and a bayonet fell out of its mold
i have lost a bayonet
all is lost
arctic talon
💀
fallen plaza
lore wise average Stormcast is a match for Chaos Warriors
So that means in VT2 terms I can solo one as a lowly heretic
Or a patrol of them 😁
arctic talon
the VT2 characters are all heros
so on the tabletop yes
they'd like wipe a squad lol
crystal forum
also can i just say it's dumb i need to buy a separate kit for heavy weapons
arctic talon
not in WHFB though
because WHFB sucks
I mean its a good tabletop game
please don't kill me WHFB players
your 2000 point armies that cost over 1000$ are reasonable
queen laurel
lore wise average Stormcast is a match for Chaos Warriors
hmm i see
crystal forum
arctic talon
one of these 2 are my favorite Sylvaneth minis
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also can i just say it's dumb i need to buy a separate kit for heavy weapons
blame forgeworld, they like to nickel and dime
fallen plaza
It's a cool rocket tbh idk what your on about
crystal forum
blame forgeworld, they like to nickel and dime
i can laugh at them for being dead
crystal forum
who's winning now mister forge world
fallen plaza
There's an underslung verient
crystal forum
i asked this a million times and nobody ever responds, does ANYBODY remember the FW website's titan builder?
fallen plaza
No
fallen plaza
Forge world used to credit there sculptures too, so yes they used to be cool
crystal forum
There's an underslung verient
falls forward
arctic talon
It actually is really stable
lol
like jokes aside
but thats mostly since she's hollow
Nighthaunt is def the worst faction in terms of connection points though since they're an army of ghosts
crystal forum
listen i keep being told about this dunning kruger guy and to be honest i think he sucks even though i barely know anything about him