Mortal Kombass
#40k-lore-chat
dusk patrol
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theme starts
opaque coyote
You probably can't
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jump cuts of all the ass
near wasp
Wait they're metal
That won't stop me
opaque coyote
That won't stop me
Instead of bongos it's drums
Gotta get metal pipes
loud metal pipe sfx
dusk patrol
Dude after MkX I want Johnny Cage to be my father in law so bad
If you know what I mean
near wasp
You tryna hook with Cassie? You dawg
dusk patrol
She could kill me in so many ways
But she can’t kill me by ripping out my heart
Cause she’s already done that
fallen plaza
Mood
storm jungle
WHAT IN TARNATION-
near wasp
You know I'd call you a simp but can't really cause then I'd be a hypocrite
storm jungle
they really didnt need to make the cast so gyatt'd to be fair
storm jungle
like, making Shang Tsung a fucking twunk is CRAZY
dusk patrol
She’s perfect
opaque coyote
they really didnt need to make the cast so gyatt'd to be fair
Somebody had to go and fucking model their asses
fallen plaza
they really didnt need to make the cast so gyatt'd to be fair
Tf you on about, they HAD to
storm jungle
Tf you on about, they HAD to
TRUE
near wasp
Somebody had to go and fucking model their asses
One handed mind you
dusk patrol
they really didnt need to make the cast so gyatt'd to be fair
Mortal Kombass: Cheeked Up
fallen plaza
I fucking love that image
dusk patrol
near wasp
https://tenor.com/view/shang-tsung-mk1-zesty-gif-15994438567299288183
me arriving to spread misinformation
fallen plaza
I want Shang stung as erabus in a 40k series just because it's funny
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-johnny-cage-mortal-kombat-johnny-cage-fuck-...
Me about to make a lore fact everyone has heard about
Did you know that red makes you go faster?
fallen plaza
Did you know orks can-
opaque coyote
Did you know orks can-
Did you know that Orks have nipples despite being fungi
storm jungle
I want Shang stung as erabus in a 40k series just because it's funny
honestly Shang is the entire reason I get tired of this braindead Erebus hate-train like these are not characters, they are fucking goofy ass cartoon villains.
yes yes "fuck erebus" now watch him kill your favorite character
dusk patrol
Ok but Erebus doesn’t have any catch phrases
dusk patrol
He needs a better marketing team
storm jungle
agreed
dusk patrol
And more evil laughter
storm jungle
guy barely does anything
fallen plaza
honestly Shang is the entire reason I get tired of this braindead Erebus hate-tr...
I don't think anyone takes the erabus hate train seriously, he Is a meme
dusk patrol
Where’s the pizzaz?
dusk patrol
People that don’t read anything
fallen plaza
Ok nerd
storm jungle
People that don’t read anything
This tbh
fallen plaza
Real
dusk patrol
Meme lore shit
storm jungle
"omg my favorite characterinos!!!!"
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OMG GUYS RYLANOR
fallen plaza
I am alpharious!!!!!!!
dusk patrol
Fucker shows up like
storm jungle
OMG GUYS KHARN BEAT HIM UP
dusk patrol
Twice
fallen plaza
He didn't even fucking flee into the bunkers in his first appearance
opaque coyote
Where’s the pizzaz?
Abaddon mastered that tbh
fallen plaza
Which I think is wayy cooler
opaque coyote
Despite Abaddon's record, he can make some awesome entrances tbh
arctic talon
I wish abbadon had a helmet in 40K
near wasp
I have not listened to a single book with abby
storm jungle
Kind of a dick
Pretty much.
opaque coyote
So that's kind of why he's hated.
Cause he's the sneaky kind of evil instead of outright
storm jungle
Hes not a character.
dusk patrol
I get he can only do so many
fallen plaza
I don't think Erebus really had any cool flairs
His first appearance was hilarious, I laughed out loud at it
dusk patrol
Zardu Layak is unfortunately too based
fallen plaza
Hell yes
dusk patrol
And his drip levels are
fallen plaza
His model is so fucking good
dusk patrol
Off the charts
opaque coyote
I do agree with the fanbase in that if Erebus dies
It should be in the most funny way possible
Like a stray shot from a plasma gun or something
near wasp
He should trip down some stairs
dusk patrol
Him and Kor killing eachother
opaque coyote
Him and Kor killing eachother
Yes
But yeah in general the worst part about Erebus is that he doesn't have any flair
Even characters meant to be hated have flair
storm jungle
Yeah but hes just whatever
like we got enough generic villains
throw him into the pile
opaque coyote
Incredibly important questio
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Do you think Avatar of Khaine is a "honk shoo" or "honk mimimimimi" type of person?
opaque coyote
I think it’s the screams of the poor exarch being burned alive
hoonnnk AAAAUUGGH ISHA MOTHER FATHER SOMEONE HELP M mimimimi
pliant horizon
Random thought I just had
Tyranids gotta eat plant matter don’t they? I mean it’s technically biomass.
I mean like, after chewing through all the flesh and blood of an entire planets population they just like…
Start munching on leaves and stuff 😭
opaque coyote
Random thought I just had
Tyranids gotta eat plant matter don’t they? I mean it...
The Tyranids basically eat everything
Turn it into goop
arctic talon
Random thought I just had
Tyranids gotta eat plant matter don’t they? I mean it...
They eat plants yes
opaque coyote
Then throw themselves in to become goop
pliant horizon
An entire hive fleet but they’re all vegetarians, don’t kill anyone but just completely fuck up an agri world 
opaque coyote
snail
pliant horizon
Snail
storm jungle
Random thought I just had
Tyranids gotta eat plant matter don’t they? I mean it...
They literally eat everything.
Down to the planetary crust/core
nothing organic/generally inorganic is left
arctic talon
They literally eat metal
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
I’m sure they eat some dirt as well
pliant horizon
opaque coyote
Tbh I wish they had designs more like that and not like the Hormagaunts
opaque coyote
...Giant maids?
h u h?
arctic talon
the leviathan splinter fleet getting picky
opaque coyote
😭
pliant horizon
Oh, another funny thing happened today
dusk patrol
nothing organic/generally inorganic is left
Just like your mom with my a-
opaque coyote
I was referencing the snail
Nautiloid as it's actually called
But I like calling it
snail
because it's funnier
pliant horizon
My brother called my Cadians dollar store army guys and then asked why I didn’t buy a chaos deamon or something 😭😭😭😭😭
opaque coyote
My brother called my Cadians dollar store army guys and then asked why I didn’t ...
Idk man, do you really need to eat food
Just roleplay as an Imperium citizen and go hungry
arctic talon
My brother called my Cadians dollar store army guys and then asked why I didn’t ...
💀
pliant horizon
Idk man, do you really need to eat food
No 
arctic talon
call him poor for playing Daemons
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
also suck the atmosphere
Yeah people keep asking why Tyranids don't do farming
And I'm like
pliant horizon
💀
My brother really likes the chaos Deamons
Called all the space marines and their primarchs “beef heads in fallout power armor with daddy issues” 😭😭😭😭😭
arctic talon
LOL
opaque coyote
My brother really likes the chaos Deamons
Called all the space marines and the...
I mean
He's not wrong
Though tbf, the Fallout PA was inspired partially by 40k
So it's more like the other way around
The first edition released in 1987 and FO1 released in 1997
green loom
My brother really likes the chaos Deamons
Called all the space marines and the...
Does your brother drink from the toilet
opaque coyote
Also Fallout 3 genuinely had some cool power armor designs
Too bad they were never seen in Fallout 4. Unless if you count creation club
Which...
No
But yeah I find it weird that the X-01 exists in Fallout 4
Like... Why?
opaque coyote
Just make it the X-02
It makes more sense for remnants of the Eastern Enclave to escape to the Commonwealth
Why the fuck does Fallout keep needlessly fucking up it's lore
dusk patrol
Tbh it’s more has always been a little fucky
opaque coyote
I mean the TV show also does it and Todd didn't even write in that
dusk patrol
People take it too seriously
opaque coyote
People take it too seriously
Fair enough. I doubt many of the jokes in Fallout 2 are canon.
Still though. It would be nice to have a bit of consistency
Because a couple of the changes are very stupid.
Still though, it's not like Bethesda is the only source of that
There's a reason why some of interplay's games were decanonized
arctic talon
Fallout Brotherhood of Steel is peak
pliant horizon
I had a dream last night I found a bootleg 40k combat patrol box hidden behind some old shit in my closet was called some shit like “WAR MECHANICUM” but the models were these really cool Amazonian warriors that u though would look good as a guard army 
opaque coyote
I had a dream last night I found a bootleg 40k combat patrol box hidden behind s...
I mean SoB Amazons sound funny
Make them part of Catachan as well and have them not wear PA
Would be really funny
arctic talon
I had a dream last night I found a bootleg 40k combat patrol box hidden behind s...
bro found an old Bloodbowl box
holy shit these did not age well lol
the new ones look much better
storm jungle
I love how like it went from
Awful semi-offensive caricature amazonians
to
Muscle mommy football-heads
storm jungle
Yeah people keep asking why Tyranids don't do farming
Also late but I also saw that thread
"Why dont tyranids do farming on a planet"
okay why dont Locust just farm instead of eating crops
makes about as muc hsense
opaque coyote
Also farming is just converting the planet's energy into a edible form
Tyranids don't need that
Because they eat everything
Even metal
opaque coyote
"Why dont tyranids do farming on a planet"
Also there is a theory that the Tyranids do that but on a much wider scale
Basically
Go to a Galaxy
Onomnom them
Wait a couple of billions of years and eat other galaxies in the meantime
Do it again
It's theorized that the Tyranids were on their way to one of their typical food spots when they saw the light of the astronomican and decided
"OH SHIT GUYS. NEW RESTAURANT JUST OPENED!!"
And decided to go to the milky way instead for some sweet sweet new food
pliant horizon
Kinda looked like this but they were like those all female bald wakanda warriors but with guns
pliant horizon
holy shit these did not age well lol
👆
opaque coyote
the new ones look much better
Also the old ones look incredibly offensive
New ones look better tho
Actually kinda cool
arctic talon
I think its funny multiple factions in bloodbowl have rules to make a literal blood sacrifice mid game
storm jungle
you should see their Warhammer Community art
arctic talon
storm jungle
its horny af
storm jungle
It's theorized that the Tyranids were on their way to one of their typical food ...
Its not a theory we pretty much know most of everything about why the Tyranids are here, the Pharos device blowing up during 30k basically made it so that the blip from it from the Milky Way brought the attention of a hibernating hive-fleet in the intergalactic void between galaxies to the Hivemind's attention then the ships shifted course and slowly made their way to us.
Once they arrived and food was aplenty they noticed the light from the Astronomican and are drawn to it due to the psychic essence it creates.
opaque coyote
Its not a theory we pretty much know most of everything about why the Tyranids a...
So basically
The Milky Way is a new restaurant
The food's rather rude though
rocky gale
Yea, Pharos device was the comically large dinner bell
opaque coyote
Also there are implications of some Tyranids arriving beforehand
But they're usually tiny in comparison to when the Pharos Device tingled
Like Catachan is all but directly said to have life forms originated from a rogue Tyranid fleet
rocky gale
Yea like early early stage Scouts that got lost or stranded in some places
storm jungle
thats a theory more than confirmed
arctic talon
its horny af <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Which one lol
rocky gale
Wait
opaque coyote
Yea like early early stage Scouts that got lost or stranded in some places
Or maybe Catachan is just built different and absorbed the Tyranids
arctic talon
We know catachan devils are nids gone native and evolved/devolved
It’s unclear beyond that
rocky gale
Okay I was thinking of a specific story about one of their scouts that had been frozen on a world for tens of thousands of years, but I just remembered that's not a 40k story I'm thinking of, it's an event from Stellaris
opaque coyote
We know catachan devils are nids gone native and evolved/devolved
Yeah it could be that a Splinter fleet arrived at Catachan
And due to how fucked the planet is, they got absorbed into the ecosystem
And now became native
It would be fucking funny if the Hivemind just refuses to go near Catachan
Like they get signs of a Tyranid invasion only for them to just sidestep and go to another planet instead
pliant horizon
When I was introducing warhammer to my brother I made him guess what all the chaos gods were without any prior knowledge
“Khorne? Like the heavy metal band? Must be god of like loud and violent things”
“Nurgle…. Hmmm… sounds like the noise you make when you get some nasty shit stuck in your throat”
“Treench? That’s the most random “I just smashed shit on a keyboard” ass name, so he’s gotta be the god of random bullshit”
“Slaanesh? Idk god of self doubt or something”
opaque coyote
When I was introducing warhammer to my brother I made him guess what all the cha...
3/4 correct
Nice
pliant horizon
Literal g lmao
opaque coyote
Only one incorrect is Slaanesh
But I guess extreme self doubt counts as indulgence?
pliant horizon
Nah that’s like, the opposite of slaanesh
rocky gale
Naaa
pliant horizon
he did say though “sex was gonna be my joke answer”
rocky gale
Perfection is a big thing for Slaanesh and Self Doubt is a big thing in perfectionists
opaque coyote
Nah that’s like, the opposite of slaanesh
Slaanesh is overindulgence and extremes of emotion
So self doubt could be one
opaque coyote
Perfection is a big thing for Slaanesh and Self Doubt is a big thing in perfecti...
Yeah true
I should know
rocky gale
opaque coyote
Self doubt kinda cripples people to the point where I don't wanna do hobbies
Cause
"What if I am..."
vine_boom.mp3
"BAD?!?"
pliant horizon
I could fix her
rocky gale
That's horny?
storm jungle
I mean
to me it is
look at those legs
also mud-wrestling
dont you do that with girls
rocky gale
*dont you* do that with girls
Of course but it's not horny, it's just feminine bonding time
pliant horizon
God forbid women have hobbies
storm jungle
pliant horizon
Also
Since that new space marine game is coming out
And I don’t have the option to live in 15 minutes of glory as a guardsman I gotta figure out what space marine chapter I like
arctic talon
Blueberries
pliant horizon
Ngl I like the salamanders
or the fists
salamanders bc they’re cool and obligatory “good guys”
And fists bc funny bob the builder guys
opaque coyote
salamanders bc they’re cool and obligatory “good guys”
And fists bc funny bob ...
Y'know ignoring the Eldar child incident
Tbf Vulkan regretted it later
rocky gale
I'll be doing a modified Blood Angel, because the standard Blood Angel SM Scheme isn't it
storm jungle
Y'know ignoring the Eldar child incident
Tbf Vulkan regretted it later
They still participated in active genocide.
but the lore of course always never mentions them meeting any human populace that resisted them, Convenient
pliant horizon
Y'know ignoring the Eldar child incident
Tbf Vulkan regretted it later
Also because I have a backyard forge I’m building and that’s 100% their vibe
pliant horizon
average day in Warhammer universe
opaque coyote
dedicated to burning civillians that riot
Imperium moment
pliant horizon
if I had to pick a chaos chapter I’d probably go with thousand sons
storm jungle
based choice
opaque coyote
also Amazon
Jeff Bezos is actually a perpetual
I also had the idea of an AI corrupted by Nurgle.
Essentially a DAot ship crashed onto a planet. With the AI and crew living
They tried to continue on, but unknown to them, there was an unknown virus going around.
The AI basically made a deal with Nurgle to bring them back with their facilities and initiative
So now they're a bunch of zombies pleading to die. But the AI refuses to let them
It tries to keep them as comfortable as possible though
arctic talon
Also because I have a backyard forge I’m building and that’s 100% their vibe
Based forge builder
opaque coyote
Also contrary to what you'd expect. Most of the ship is squeaky clean and well maintained.
Only near the AI mainframe does it begin to look nurgleish
Basically I want to focus more on the stagnancy part of Nurgle
dense dawn
Y'know ignoring the Eldar child incident
Tbf Vulkan regretted it later
To be fair, eldar are scum
pliant horizon
The fact the nurgle can give necrons the sniffles and the first planet to be attacked by tryanids was a mechanicus outpost isn’t a good look for the “flesh is weak” crowd 😭😭😭
dense dawn
And the children will grow up to be heretics
opaque coyote
And the children will grow up to be heretics
Average Imperium Officer grindset
dense dawn
Saying this with that pfp is killing me
Am I wrong?
opaque coyote
"Sir what should we do with the orphanage?"
"They've been tainted by Xenos. Kill them."
dense dawn
Fuck them kids
dense dawn
Not to sound racist but
Tau children are most deserving of extermination
arctic talon
The fact the nurgle can give necrons the sniffles and the first planet to be att...
It’s the first world that got the data out and got attacked by nids
storm jungle
Eyo what the fu-
opaque coyote
Not to sound racist but
Tau children are most deserving of extermination
"not to sound racist"
Talks about killing Tau children
opaque coyote
"Uhm askhually it's speciest"
opaque coyote
🤓
storm jungle
allah forgive me for saying so
arctic talon
Tyran is just first recorded contact
dense dawn
"Uhm askhually it's speciest"
Okay smartass
What's the difference between a tau village and charcoal
arctic talon
It’s noted some other planets got eaten
dense dawn
PURGE IT IN FLAME
opaque coyote
Okay smartass
What's the difference between a tau village and charcoal
Hmmm
One has bits of blue and the other one doesn't
spring cairn
Okay smartass
What's the difference between a tau village and charcoal
the tau village smells noticeably worse
rocky gale
pliant horizon
We don’t know what the first planet destroyed by the nids was
Justice for glorboo minoris 😢
dense dawn
Justice for glorboo minoris 😢
Me when cadia
pliant horizon
Truuuuu
pliant horizon
Nah I started talking in this chat when I asked which tyranids eat all the plants
and somehow escalated into this lmao
storm jungle
Speaking as a Turk im really sorry my countryman acting like this
i swear they tend to hate greeks off-PC
opaque coyote
we should exterminate the Iron Warriors instead
Fun fact
Due to the Emperor's Children uh
"Domain"
They actually got their "juices" back. They were very confused when it happened the first time.
storm jungle
rocky gale
Oh
opaque coyote
Ironically, I think one of the few times anything explicit was described with the EC
Was with Ian Watson
And even then Ian Watson's books are dubiously canon.
rocky gale
His books are old damn
1990, 1993, 1994, 1995, bro was writing for GW in the before times
storm jungle
That book is still canon
Its not uh, his books have been entirely retconned
which is VERY rare in 40k
its his book + William King's Farseer
arctic talon
Wait
storm jungle
not sure if theres any beyond those 4
storm jungle
Yep
shell mason
Fun fact
Due to the Emperor's Children uh
"Domain"
They actually got their "j...
Well, yes that would make slanni very much more appealing to a space marine
opaque coyote
That book is still canon
I honestly like Ian Watson's Slaanesh stuff.
It really shows why Slaanesh is the God of Excess. It's depraved, disgusting, and horrific. All of his normal flaws somehow work together to create something truly magnificent.
It's like a car crash. Despite it being horrifying, you can't look away.
opaque coyote
Its not uh, his books have been entirely retconned
Yeah some of his writings are pretty fucking stupid
shell mason
I honestly like Ian Watson's Slaanesh stuff.
It really shows why Slaanesh is th...
The song of slannesh for example
opaque coyote
Inquistor Drago moment
opaque coyote
I do kind of like it in a weird way.
storm jungle
the novel has an Emperor's Children marine who's cock has a toothy mouth
💀
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
opaque coyote
the novel has an Emperor's Children marine who's cock has a toothy mouth
There are so many things wrong with that
But now I'm wondering if it can like
Chew food
But besides my morbid mind
arctic talon
Stop
storm jungle
opaque coyote
Yeah Ian Watson's stuff is horrific and heavily experimental
arctic talon
shell mason
the novel has an Emperor's Children marine who's cock has a toothy mouth
reminds me of the one horror movie where the chicks cat has teeth
opaque coyote
I do like it because of how much stuff it tries. A lot of ideas are put in that would be Heresy nowadays.
Like Lasgun wielding Sphess Marinez
storm jungle
reminds me of the one horror movie where the chicks cat has teeth
OH THAT MOVIE
Goofy ah fuck
opaque coyote
the novel has an Emperor's Children marine who's cock has a toothy mouth
...
opaque coyote
Bro would love Ao3
Anyways here is some eyebleach
And finally
You think people in the Imperium name their pets like ultra gothic, violent names
Like some citizen gets a cat and they just call her
opaque coyote
"Xanthus: The Heresy Cleaner"
Or something
I mean considering the Imperium named a planet "Murder". I think there are no more normal names for pets lmao
opaque coyote
yall fuckers better clean your rice
Y
rocky gale
Jesus I just read the synopsis for Watsons 40k books, bro single handily wrote most of the dumb shit that people to this day quote as "hidden lore"
shell mason
Jesus I just read the synopsis for Watsons 40k books, bro single handily wrote m...
oh?
can you indulge me Larmoth?
rocky gale
The Illuminati, Ordo Hydra, the Sensei's
shell mason
the Sensei's are dumb but a kool concept
also Illuminati?
Like eye pyramid illuminati?
rocky gale
Yea 40k has the Illuminati
shell mason
witaf?
rocky gale
All of it's members have been "illuminated" in that they've been possessed by a Daemon and then exorcised
storm jungle
very deep lore
shell mason
deepest lore
rocky gale
and the Harlequins work for them for some reason
storm jungle
also TO BE FAIR some were neat ideas just very badly executed
and came across as like
shell mason
.....
storm jungle
an Austin Power movie plot lol
storm jungle
shell mason
don't use that on me
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/groovy-austin-powers-baby-gif-5579482
when Draco literally wants to fuck his half-genestealer callidus assassin partner
shell mason
I should be using that on you!
shell mason
Leave me while I massage this chicken breast
rocky gale
Breaks into the Black Library, steals the Book of Fate
crystal forum
breast?
shell mason
huh?
crystal forum
awwww 😔
rocky gale
And then finds a point outside time to try and bring his waifu back to life
shell mason
his waifu?
rocky gale
It's actually because her name was Lindi, they tried to giver her a new name but she kept insiting "Me Lindi", so they just started calling her Meh'Lindi"
crystal forum
still a better nickname than mine
crystal forum
it cannot be said in a civil environment
shell mason
you think this environment is civil?
rocky gale
Yes
shell mason
it cannot be said in a civil environment
just pm
hallow plover
Just put it in spoiler
storm jungle
dense dawn
https://tenor.com/view/chicken-meat-cooking-chicken-breast-gif-10411231
Chicken tiddies
Hell yeah
dense dawn
you think this environment is civil?
Warhammer
So I hope not
KILL, MAIM, BURN
CHAOS WILL CONSUME YOU
shell mason
Chicken tiddies
never change Vatan
dense dawn
still a better nickname than mine
Happy jay
leaden pilot
Afaik there was a primitive aggressive alien species that Eldar once fought and human behaviour reminds them of Mon'keigh, so they call us monkeys
shell mason
Afaik there was a primitive aggressive alien species that Eldar once fought and ...
DING DING DING
misty vector
ah neat
storm jungle
Afaik there was a primitive aggressive alien species that Eldar once fought and ...
It doesnt really mean "monkey" it just sounds like one because GW writers are uncreative.
misty vector
wonder what the eldar ancestor would have been then
storm jungle
like how Gue'la for Tau sounds very much like Gue'lo an actual asian slang for foreigners
leaden pilot
It doesnt really mean "monkey" it just sounds like one because GW writers are un...
Yeah I know, I just refuse to accept that that word is anything more than just monkey lol
storm jungle
shell mason
like how frieza call sayians monkeys
rose thorn
like how Gue'la for Tau sounds very much like Gue'lo an actual asian slang for f...
Sound? It’s spelt the same lmao
Literlaly is the same word with an accent
Why must 40k keep naming stuff after slurs
Oh yeha they are British
paper haven
What fresh hell...?
rose thorn
i will still talk shit about black templars and old world till old world doenst sell 5 of the worlds ugliest models for 130 dollars
storm jungle
LMAO
sad but true
also in the black templars case the entire joke is they are suppose to be genocidal christian templar parodies but people are kinda dense
forest orbit
Speaking as a black templar fan in the BT fanbase this is true lol
storm jungle
arctic talon
I only like Black Templars for the massive fucking meme potential on the tabletop
Of dropping 200 marine quality bodies
forest orbit
Same, otherwise i want nothing to do with its fanbase.
arctic talon
forest orbit
like its not even a joke
almsot every BT fan is some sort of racist or bigot
it drives me mad
forest orbit
YEP
crisp heath
Do we have any custodes opinions about the sisters of silence? Like do they respect them or just see them as tools or what?
rose thorn
eons of battle is oen of the only black templar youtubers who doesnt say weird shit on youtube ive seen
arctic talon
Do we have any custodes opinions about the sisters of silence? Like do they resp...
They respect them
crisp heath
Sick
rose thorn
oh adn that one guy from battle ont abletop
arctic talon
eons of battle is oen of the only black templar youtubers who doesnt say weird s...
Because he’s a hobbyist
forest orbit
^
rose thorn
lmao
arctic talon
The weird black Templar fans
Never actually have touched the hobby
Or tabletop
Or potentially a book
It’s like
forest orbit
the important thing to remember is the braindead part of the fanbase is generally the lore-based one, i have seen dudes who do paint black templars and say awful shit on social media but its here and there. Most people that actually play the game as Elite said do not care
arctic talon
Really fucking funny
arctic talon
the important thing to remember is the braindead part of the fanbase is generall...
It’s not the lore based portion specifically, it’s the lore based portion who gets all their lore from fucking Reddit and YouTubers
Lol
rose thorn
i love ordo xenos, but holy shit the ordo xenos community can be some of the most annoying bastards
green loom
"Yeah I love the lore!"
Looks inside
Memes
forest orbit
i love ordo xenos, but holy shit the ordo xenos community can be some of the mos...
its why i hate fucking deathwatch fans
"DIE XENO"
okay get better material moron
rose thorn
i wanna like greyknights, but i despise one off army gimmicks
arctic talon
well now deathwatch actively is dead
I feel bad for the like 100 deathwatch players total that existed
forest orbit
GK are very cool but like unless you dont like their gimmick you will not like them
forest orbit
i respect them as an army but their entire lore is like Mary Sue galore lol
green loom
I feel bad for the like 100 deathwatch players total that existed
Now they'll just be marine players
arctic talon
Now they'll just be marine players
They can’t even use their deathwatch units with marines properly though lol
Because they don’t have the astartes keyword
💀
Deathwatch is fucking cooked lol
green loom
Yeah but what if their army is just primaris with shoulderpads
arctic talon
Unless GW decides to day 1 patch
rose thorn
honeslty i dont mind deathwatch being xenos killers, xenos are so varried and expands in so many territories you can make good reason why they are fighitng even demons
arctic talon
Yeah but what if their army is just primaris with shoulderpads
Smh that works
Deathwatch is much more varied
Then grey knights
Like just from how they’ve been designed
Grey Knights lore wise all paths lead to fucking daemons lol
rose thorn
greyknights need a lore rewrite
arctic talon
At least deathwatch don’t mind murdering chaos
arctic talon
greyknights need a lore rewrite
They’re fine
Overall imo
And I don’t even like them that much
rose thorn
i think its just annoying, also they have ancient really bad lore
rose thorn
the sisters thing
arctic talon
the sisters thing
That’s been rewritten for ages
rose thorn
oh my bad
arctic talon
It’s just a heroic sacrifice now
crisp heath
Grey knights need to be removed from lore, they keep on killing all the funny Saturday morning cartoon villain demons
rose thorn
crying in the club
arctic talon
Smh
rose thorn
Grey knights need to be removed from lore, they keep on killing all the funny Sa...
( @storm jungle )
arctic talon
Grey knights not being good at killing daemons
Wasn’t on my 10e bingo card
But it did end up happening lol
rose thorn
Grey knights need to be removed from lore, they keep on killing all the funny Sa...
( not saying you are wrong saying she would find this funny )
crisp heath
( <@166943308231344128> )
Damn they calling the cops on me
rose thorn
SHE WOULD FIND IT FUNNYYY
storm jungle
I DO ITS FUNNY
storm jungle
lmao all good no harm done
rose thorn
i didn twnan stress you out butler lmao
storm jungle
homie almost got removed from the stream chat
rose thorn
pff
rose thorn
But it did end up happening lol
honestly also grey knights make no sense with ordo hereticus (or waht ever the non demon one is called)
arctic talon
They’re chamber militant for malleus
arctic talon
They get called in when inquisitors forces can’t deal with it
Or they go out on their own to murder daemons
arctic talon
besides mruder civilians
They don’t do that anymore unless there’s a greater daemon lol
arctic talon
two ordos that deal with demons
Hereticus deals with heretics 🤓 of all stripes
Malleus deals with uh
Daemons
rose thorn
and grey knights also kills cultist
rose thorn
and hereticus also kills demons
arctic talon
The circle of suck
rose thorn
So does the Ordo xenos
genestealers and that one weird eldar cult
oh and enslavers? if you count them?
arctic talon
I’d count it
rose thorn
uh any other xenos cults?
rose thorn
also i dont htink malleus even does their job well
or hereticus tbh
in like, every city and every planet there is a mention of cults lmao
rose thorn
even imperium
rose thorn
my favortie part is that cults advertise them selves in necromunda
rose thorn
honestly hammerhal also has a huge khorne cult
arctic talon
That’s a different setting
rose thorn
tht get away with it because they worship a pig god
arctic talon
Lol
rose thorn
That’s a different setting
yeah but they sre much much smaller
and hammerhal is like, the capital
arctic talon
Lol
rose thorn
yeah
lmao
i think ghyran keeps getting invaded by nurgle? but they are uh, much easier to detect
liek infultrated by nurgle uclts
arctic talon
I wonder why
rose thorn
let me check if there is a named nurgle cult in ghyran
rose thorn
hammerhal ghyran
rose thorn
And there’s a bunch of flies
'all the flies keep whispering about eating corpses...'
okay so there isnt a named uclt but there is a sickenss spareading aroudn hammerhal
arctic talon
Well that sounds about right
rose thorn
yeah
tzeentch already infultrated every city of sigmar so no need to question that
/hj
pliant horizon
And there’s a bunch of flies
Bros neighbor has a nurgle cult in they basement 😭😭
arctic talon
Bros neighbor has a nurgle cult in they basement 😭😭
Lol
arctic talon
tzeentch already infultrated every city of sigmar so no need to question that
Isn’t the guy came up with realmstone = energy literally the changling
And he was one of the founders of greywater fastness
opaque coyote
greyknights need a lore rewrite
Honestly they're fine. Most of what Matt Ward did either got rewritten or decanonized
The only thing that really needs a redo is the Dreadnought design for the grey knights
Sorry not dreadnought
Dreadknights
I still can't fucking believe anybody thought this wasn't silly as fuck
plush mason
and just to prove that point they made a version for the primarus that is just the redempter dreadnaught with a normal cockpit
winter vessel
Dreadknights
Mf looks like he in a baby car seat you’d see in a station wagon
opaque coyote
and just to prove that point they made a version for the primarus that is just t...
Tbf it isn't the dumbest design they made
First edition Terminator armor
Look at it
This video encapsulates my feelings for it tbh
rose thorn
Isn’t the guy came up with realmstone = energy literally the changling
He also planned out the infrastructure of every city except hammerhal
There is hidden passages in every city that only tzeentch cultists can use
rose thorn
First edition Terminator armor
Tbh I love it, it looks like it can take a cannon to the head
But at what cost…
opaque coyote
Tbh I love it, it looks like it can take a cannon to the head
I mean yeah but at the same time I'm wondering how they can even turn
At least the Space Marines can turn their head
These mfs cannot
opaque coyote
The funniest part tho is 2 things
rose thorn
Quicksand insta kills every space marine
opaque coyote
- Just like with how Terminator Armor is originally construction equipment.
The Saturnine in particular was used in nuclear facilities
So basically it was meant to be used with handling nuclear waste
Which makes sense. You don't necessarily need to turn to do that
opaque coyote
Quicksand insta kills every space marine
- Despite what I just said. It isn't called Saturnine. It's technically mark 1.
But there is an armor that Vulkan made that looks
So similar that I think people just call the MK1 that out of either confusion or hc
Yes I got confused as well while typing it
And honestly they look so similar to the MK1, I'm not surprised that people confuse them
Including me
dusk patrol
That’s not Saturnine either
It’s just a reference to that original sculpt
Saturine isn’t know what it looks like and is barely mentioned
velvet raft
opaque coyote
Saturine isn’t know what it looks like and is barely mentioned
pain
i love sifting through misinformation
dusk patrol
That being said I wouldn’t be shocked if they just call that armor saturnine if they ever do a model
A new one that is
opaque coyote
That being said I wouldn’t be shocked if they just call that armor saturnine if ...
yeah that sounds good
also i just realized that if i ever became like
a black library writer
i would just do everything to make the fanbase mad
like idk
add female space marines
make space marines use las weapons
i just realized a lot of things that would make people mad are space marine related
actually fuck it going the full mile. make some SM gay
why not
outer wave
Non binary SM
dusk patrol
I would say your idea of how much control BL authors have over what goes in their books is misguided
plush mason
yeah GW like all such companies maintain the majority of the say in what is and isnt in the final draft of any book they have written
storm jungle
Its pretty much a "level" based thing.
For example Abnett can practically do whatever he wants.
If you're new though you are gonna get yanked around a lot. Its one of the reasons why most authors just do like a few short stories then just leave.
fallen plaza
Abnett will knaw on your bones
celest dome
If you're new though you are gonna get yanked around **a lot**. Its one of the r...
As is everything in warhammer.
Probably is somewhat of the same with games too. Though not at the same level.
storm jungle
Yeah theres a few stories they post on reddit like J.C Stearns or Rath where they outright say they got zero idea how well their books do so they need to look up reviews on goodreads and dread the anticipation lol
celest dome
Like FS would be quite trusted by GW, so they might now be more inclined to say yes for certain things that they wouldn't have before
storm jungle
Also that ye, again zipping my mouth shut mostly 🤐
celest dome
I really need to get inside the NDA it seem.
Damn you time, were Hedge still there I'd have my way in 💀
green loom
J C Denton is Grendyl
fallen plaza
If you're new though you are gonna get yanked around **a lot**. Its one of the r...
I assume thats just the general culture around most media production
storm jungle
Kinda, like...
Warhammer is more strict with it because they really dont want you to willy nilly add random shit to a novel most of the time, i understand the reasoning for it but if you're a small author your novel will usually get edited/cut to shit because of it half the time.
Or you can go wild like Josh Reynolds and say you wanted to kill Bile at the end of his trilogy but got a straight up "no".
Its the same with how Brooks had to call in a literal favor with someone he knew in BL to even get to write Brutal Kunning.
Its pretty funny.
storm jungle
I mean
it does make sense story wise lol
its more that he kinda forgot this is Slophammer 40k
nobody dies, theres no consequences to anything
fallen plaza
Thats why with most warhammer ips its best to ignore most of the big picture lore
Because most of it is gobbly g00k
Smaller scale stuff is fun
storm jungle
Pretty much, i get the passion behind the writing but if you are ever gonna kill someone it has to be a OC you made up for the story.
With major characters its always just a nothing-burger
it can be compelling ala Ahriman's stuff but im personally so worn out by it idgaf at this point lol
"OH NO THE ENTIRE CAST DIES BY THE END OF THE BOOK!!!"
Yes very riveting.
fallen plaza
Planning on skipping most of the heresy stuff to go straight into maybe the first heretic or the calth stuff
Consuming slop in moderation
storm jungle
Calth is pretty good memes aside.
Know No Fear is like one of the most praised HH books in the serie slol
not that its saying much i know shut up
fallen plaza
I wasnt gonna make a smart quip because i am an HH nerd so i say thats pretty good
storm jungle
plush mason
nobody dies, theres no consequences to anything
ah the sad realities of the setting being a TT game, the plot rarely if ever gets moved forward
hexed furnace
*not that its saying much i know shut up*
Lmao everyone has to remember that a “good” 40k book may just be an average sci fi book overall
shell mason
Lmao everyone has to remember that a “good” 40k book may just be an average sci ...
speaking facts
hexed furnace
Mfw a book that spends half its time detailing the minutiae of a weapon firing doesn’t appeal to a wider audience
Black Library 🤝 purple prose
shell mason
mhm
hallow saddle
If you're new though you are gonna get yanked around **a lot**. Its one of the r...
yeah, its worth bearing in mind that BL is a publisher of tie-in fiction first and foremost
that's really what it is
shell mason
Onion and garlic chicken breast got me feeling unwise
arctic talon
ah the sad realities of the setting being a TT game, the plot rarely if ever get...
it has been getting moved forward since 8e tbf
plush mason
it has been getting moved forward since 8e tbf
true, i should have specified i mean big shifts, like key characters dying and all that
rose thorn
Tbh using one of these for like, a dark angel captain in terminator armor or something similar would be fun.
arctic talon
Minotaurs don't even love old tech
they just abuse moms credit card
they get a blank check and they get to buy whatever they can
rose thorn
Lmao
shell mason
📺
shell mason
they get a blank check and they get to buy whatever they can
they good like that
arctic talon
also they steal stuff as well
arctic talon
<a:bewine:559116856565170247> 📺
where is the orb on the beheadeds head
Why is it missing
shell mason
where is the orb on the beheadeds head
bruh
fallen plaza
it has been getting moved forward since 8e tbf
Sort of related but one of my pet peeves in community discussions is how the lore is always “ever changing” when GW clearly isnt marvel and pumping out slop as fast as them
storm jungle
They do marvel-tier slop but its deffo not as repetitive
Also that complaint is about as age old as the setting itself yeah
"I WANT CHANGE"
"NOOOO I DONT WANT CHANGE"
wintry scarab
Well thats a bit depressing
misty vector
why's that?
shell mason
Well thats a bit depressing
how so?
wintry scarab
Pre order, top seller
wintry scarab
Bro... The issue is that Preorders are still a thing. This is a issue that is created by the business and they sell you the solution to it. Its just a way to get your money early so they can spurt numbers to press and investors. This is not a good thing
shell mason
ok
then just wait?
and everyone doesn't know this
and or people will still cope
hell last game I preorder was remanent 2
wintry scarab
Seeing stuff like this just evokes nihilism
storm jungle
It might but its also a case of "who gives a fuck"
people will always be suckers, mind your own wallet and money and ignore them
rocky gale
Yea like you were going to buy the game anyway, what's it matter if you're buying it in advance?
storm jungle
^
This is a product/consumerism thing in general
the phrase "people are sheep" thing exists for a reason, just ignore it
I very much pre-ordered the base version of this game knowing ill be bored of it and go back to Darktide or Rogue Trader as my bigger interest 40k games but its definitely going to keep my interest until that happens anyway.
fallen plaza
I was tempted to buy total war but then i remembered im better of getting minis than buying all the fucking dlc
wintry scarab
The fact that we have gotten to a point where the consumer is defending a practice that does nothing but affect them negatively is mind blowing.
wintry scarab
Not with this medium
fallen plaza
The internet amplifies stupid in an easy to read way
People have always been like this
shell mason
I was tempted to buy total war but then i remembered im better of getting minis ...
preach
leaden pilot
Afaik preordering made more sense when games were more physical, where you actually had to go to the store and buy them, because if it was some big game it may be out of stock on release if enough people show up to buy it, so you could preorder it and be sure that you'll play it on release
wintry scarab
^ Again just say "who gives a fuck" and ignore it
This is negatively effecting me. This isnt an issue that will go away or get better. Its been getting worse and worse. It has been seeping into this medium and the only reason why it has stayed is because people buy into it.
leaden pilot
But hey, even if it doesn't make that much sense now, you probably won't stop all people from doing that
rocky gale
How is it negatively effecting you?
shell mason
This is negatively effecting me. This isnt an issue that will go away or get bet...
then don't buy into it?
wintry scarab
Afaik preordering made more sense when games were more physical, where you actua...
Yeah lol. Sorry for being rude in advance but no shit. Thats the fucking issue. This benefits no one but the company yet we glaze on their knobs like theyre lollipops.
spring cairn
I was tempted to buy total war but then i remembered im better of getting minis ...
total war on sale is 10 times cheaper
wintry scarab
then don't buy into it?
What?
rocky gale
The people who are going to preorder a game are the people who are looking forward to the game, if preordering isn't a thing they are going to buy it on day one anyway
wintry scarab
Im complaining about the issue? Why would i go and support it?
fallen plaza
This is negatively effecting me. This isnt an issue that will go away or get bet...
Uh…. Womp womp?
shell mason
What?
It's not hurting you cause it's your money and YOU not buying into it. But some people aren't you, some people are just ass with cash
rocky gale
I love when someone complains about an issue but won't actually explain why it's an issue
wintry scarab
I love when someone complains about an issue but won't actually explain why it's...
The mind boggles. What do you think you get from preordering a digital product? There is your answer lol.
shell mason
1 sec
shell mason
Someone have the image of the 1911 stub pistol
wintry scarab
You get the product?
You buy the idea of the product. You dont know what the product is because it does not exist. The reason why preorders are a thing is because of limited stock, so that someone can secure a purchase. That is not the case with a preorder.
sacred ginkgo
I meant the actual little image of it in a 40k product
fallen plaza
I think if you own that grip you should be embarrassed
sacred ginkgo
But someone posted it in vet chat
fallen plaza
I saw that fool
shell mason
fuck you Zim
Okay lemme
ask
What are the incentives of getting a online preorder
A bit before the game releases it can be downloaded before it come out
so you can immediately play it
Other things like 3 day access before the game comes out
immediate dlc season pass and the like
rocky gale
So in a theoretical timeline, lets say Space Marine 2 is releasing tomorrow, I enjoy 40k games so I boot up Steam and I preorder the game
But in an alternate theoretical timeline, I instead buy it the day after release because I enjoy 40k games.
How is my life fundamentally worse in the first timeline?
fallen plaza
It shows the degrading morality of the west! Thats what!
wintry scarab
It's not hurting you cause it's your money and YOU not buying into it. But some ...
E.g: If you have a cat and i am paying the GlobalCATBAN™ and they are banning all cats as pets, my money is doing something that will negativly impact you. Your logic does not logic.
shell mason
So in a theoretical timeline, lets say Space Marine 2 is releasing tomorrow, I e...
This goes in tandem with what I just said, immediate play as soon as the game goes live
fallen plaza
E.g: If you have a cat and i am paying the GlobalCATBAN™ and they are banning al...
Thats not a fucking video game though you cock
shell mason
E.g: If you have a cat and i am paying the GlobalCATBAN™ and they are banning al...
no your logic is hurting you,
rocky gale
Darn me for protecting the vile Corpos (I'm not even going to buy the game anyway)
wintry scarab
Fuck me
rocky gale
Like do you not understand how absurd your position is, you are positing that your life is actively being ruined by other people buying a video game?
fallen plaza
E.g: If you have a cat and i am paying the GlobalCATBAN™ and they are banning al...
“Taking a shower means that potentially i would ground up babies and shower in there blood in the future!!!!!”
wintry scarab
Im trying to prove why what you are saying does not make sense.
rocky gale
Yet you aren't establishing any points
shell mason
You proved that your not making fucking sense
start making it
Please for the love of god
Make
it
make
sense
wintry scarab
lol
rocky gale
"It's bad"
"Why?"
"It's obviously bad"
"But why?"
"God it's crazy you can't see it's bad"
"How is it bad?"
"You're really defending the corporation that's doing this"
You
This is you
leaden pilot
I guess that his point is that preordering gives the incentive for publishers to release half-baked games, because they already get money even before the game comes out, so there's no real incentive for them to fix/improve the game
rocky gale
The same is true of buying the game on release day
shell mason
I guess that his point is that preordering gives the incentive for publishers to...
but even then reviews are a thing
leaden pilot
Yeah, tbf I get shitting on people who are preordering one or two years before the game comes out, cause then it can change a whole lot, but when it's less than one month from release I don't think it's that much of a problem, because the game should be pretty much done at that point, and there should be already reviews and people's impressions from playtests
wintry scarab
I guess that his point is that preordering gives the incentive for publishers to...
Ay, somones getting it
fallen plaza
Ay, somones getting it
Took him one message to get to the point
rocky gale
I'm glad someone else was here to explain it and not just be an ass
shell mason
Thank you Treaty
fallen plaza
Ay, somones getting it
While your ass couldnt do it if your life depended on it
wintry scarab
you people are rude as hell lol
leaden pilot
Thank you Treaty
Np, I've seen a lot of discourse about preorders online after the whole Cyberpunk 2077 and BF 2042 debacle
rocky gale
you people are rude as hell lol
You were treating us like idiots for not understanding you, while refusing to explain yourself.
storm jungle
Alright guys thats enough please.
and @wintry scarab @shell mason @fallen plaza And you three stop shitflinging each other.
its fine to disagree but this is dragging it out at this point
shell mason
Yes Mom
fallen plaza
😁
wintry scarab
and <@514484453461196839> <@397032734570184704> <@575278342261964821> And you th...
I did no such thing. I was respectful thank you very much.
storm jungle
I did no such thing. I was respectful thank you very much.
Either way stop arguing.
shell mason
wintry scarab
If you bring up the "fuck me" that does not count
shell mason
Alright alright
Moving on
How many book do go over the dark age of technology
Explicitly the men of Iron?
shell mason
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1147647754273837130/1272248894893461584/I...
that frog on some chad shit
taking on a traitor head on
wintry scarab
Yeah lol. Sorry for being rude in advance but no shit. Thats the fucking issue. ...
Also i scrolled up a bit to see if i was actually rude and yeah i was lol
fallen plaza
opaque coyote
Tbh using one of these for like, a dark angel captain in terminator armor or som...
I think the pauldrons should contain guns.
Gundrons
rocky gale
🐸
opaque coyote
I would say your idea of how much control BL authors have over what goes in thei...
I am fully aware.
Writers usually have a set of mandates by the company, with editors usually looking to see if they violate it.
Some writers also have a template.
Like for example, a lot of romance writers HAVE to follow a series of tropes.
shell mason
I am fully aware.
Writers usually have a set of mandates by the company, with e...
What are the tropes?
I get to bored reading romance books
opaque coyote
Depends on the company.
But for starters, the love triangle (tm)
shell mason
Twilight
shell mason
Huh?
fallen plaza
Im not one for romance stuff
shell mason
I hear alpha male either two things
fallen plaza
But ouran highschool hostclub is probably my favorite anime of all time
shell mason
Woman bad, weakness is ass, get your money up
Or
Mentally bettering yourself
so former or ladder?
opaque coyote
Huh?
Essentially
A girl falls in love the pinnacle of male achievement
Rich, muscular, oiled up, and madly in love
In fact usually they're so in love that they do shit like
Fly into a rage and break things when the love interest leaves for one minute
shell mason
Oiled up is not a good image
fallen plaza
It is
shell mason
shut it Zimmer