40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

there's just a few mandatory Urge incidents mostly for plot progressions

[celest dome]

The dead 3's domain aren't really personal for them, they're just tools, or steps to their real goals

[arctic talon]

yeah

[dusk patrol]

They’re also all bitches to the real god of death

[arctic talon]

but The Dead Three are also lame and dumb smh

which one there's like 5

lol

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

"bro trust me, kicking that baby into the sun is fun"

[celest dome]

Just want ||Alfira|| as a companion

[dusk patrol]

At least the Tyranny god is a bit more interesting though

[arctic talon]

Kelemvor? Shar? The Raven Queen? Jergal? Loviatar?

[dusk patrol]

Bhaal is legit brain dead

[arctic talon]

Bane is also the strongest of the 3

lol

Myrkul and Bhaal are both kind of weak

[dusk patrol]

Bhaal probably murdered its own brain pan.

[celest dome]

Jergal I suppose due to him having given them their domains

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[celest dome]

Myrkul lorewise is the most successful iirc

[dusk patrol]

Banes schemes at least are vaguely interesting

[arctic talon]

Myrkul is the most successful since a lot of evil necromancers end up worshipping him

[dusk patrol]

Myrkul is there for whenever they need a big zombie army plotline or whatever so yeah

Bane is a bit more complex to write

Bhaal is there for when you need a big bad guy to fight

It in BG3s case

You just use all three

The people of Baldurs Gate really aren’t that wise based off the plotlines of the past games

Not sure why anyone lives there

[storm jungle]

same reason as Gotham

low rent

[celest dome]

Cause it's still a rather good city to live comparatively

[arctic talon]

Baldurs Gate generally is like the Second or third best city on the swords coast

[celest dome]

Waterdeep also has its issues

[rose thorn]

Hellos

[dusk patrol]

“By golly it’s been a whole decade since we’ve had a world ending event happen to the city, we’re really living large these days folks!”

[arctic talon]

Waterdeep is like Chicago

[dusk patrol]

Like why the fuck are long lived races living there

[arctic talon]

no I will not elaborate

[dusk patrol]

If you’re hundreds of years old you’ve seen legit like

Six or seven apocalyptic events at the city

[arctic talon]

mfw some elf/dwarf/gnome has lived through 5 different world ending events

[dusk patrol]

It’s like these mfers don’t actually wanna live that long!

[celest dome]

Neverwinter, basically razed
Ethuriel, sent to Hell, literally
Waterdeep, mafia, gangs and shit, as well as many Drow backstabbers
Baldur's gate, except on very rare occasion where there is a massive thing happening, it's rather quaint

[arctic talon]

Elturel is also a terrible idea if you're a Tiefling or Warlock

[celest dome]

Then there are some other big cities, like Menzo, which you don't want to life in, unless you're a Fem drow, and even then you've got better places to live in if you really wanted to

There is also that old Dwarf forge but I forgot if it was lived in anymore

[arctic talon]

its not even on the swords coast is it?

its like more inland

[celest dome]

Menzo ? It's underground

[arctic talon]

yeah

I'm saying like the area aboveground isn't like on the swordscoast

either way living there is like a terrible idea even as a Drow lol

[celest dome]

More to the north iirc, but not that far from the Sword Coast, they've got a few tunnels gunning straight at Waterdeep iirc

[arctic talon]

you know that makes sense

either way Long lived races living in Baldurs Gate is funny

but any major settlement is also kind of just terrible in its own way lol

[shell mason]

Man

ngl

Missed hitting the gym like I use too

[light parrot]

Question. How many dog breeds still exist in the 42nd millenium? Could my homebrew inquisitor have a pet shih tzu? Could the dog have some special ability or justification to be in an inquisitor's retinue?

[opaque coyote]

I'm at least 90% sure all of the dog breeds that were on terra

Died

[storm jungle]

Basically any basic dog breed could exist along with extra variations.

and for a justification it can literally be anything from a pet to just "I want a genetically enhanced attack dog"

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but they probably are all like

Cyber dogs

[storm jungle]

Eh again it doesnt matter.

We have examples of non-cyber dogs

any animal breed can exist in 40k on writer demand

[plush mason]

even cows

[storm jungle]

^

[plush mason]

even though the grox exist

[green loom]

If you need it, it exists

[plush mason]

if the isenbrak horror has normal ass earth horses on that random world in fuck knows where any animal can be on any world

speaking of, we need more stuff on the vampires

[storm jungle]

love that short

took me a moment to realise what the "horror" actually was lol

[plush mason]

yeah

it wasnt till the end i figured it out myself

honestly the warhammer horror shorts are just amazing

the setting is basically tailor made for such stories

[storm jungle]

yeah its great, i gotta read more of them at some point

[plush mason]

ngl warhammer has been making me want a kindle or audible for a while

[light parrot]

cyber shih tzu it is

[plush mason]

that, would be perfect for the rogue trader crpg

[storm jungle]

Yeah that'll do it

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the Grox are literally so aggressive that they usually lobotomize them

[plush mason]

true

[opaque coyote]

They probably do have cows but for like

Royalty only

Tbf to Grox tho, their meat is stated to taste really fucking good

But then again it's 40k, so the usual faire for people who aren't royals probably consists of Emperor's Mercy Bars and Slab

Maybe Corpse Starch in harder times

So maybe Grox Meat actually tastes bad to us.

[plush mason]

wtf are Emperor's Mercy Bars?. oh right bullets

[opaque coyote]

Nope, although bullets might be more nutritious

Essentially they're civilian relief rations

[plush mason]

ah

[opaque coyote]

"Civilian Relief Rations are made from recycled food waste or any other organic materials and are used for civilian relief in areas of intense fighting. Also known as Emperor's Mercy bars, each can just barely keep a person alive for a day. The less said about their taste the better."

[plush mason]

yup that sounds like the emperor's mercy

[opaque coyote]

There is a reason why people turn to chaos

[plush mason]

yup

[opaque coyote]

Tbh now that I think about it

Slaanesh cultists probably don't have to even try to attract attention

They just say to their recruits

"hey want some decent tasting meals?"

So what if it has purple tentacles?

You've eaten weirder

[arctic talon]

tbf Slab is made out of grox meat

Just like

really heavily processed grox

[winter vessel]

I compare Slab to real life Spam. Except the former is pretty much tasteless

[arctic talon]

Spam is actually good

Slab is

Slab seems pretty bad lol

[crystal forum]

i bet it doesnt taste that bad

add some sci fi artificial flavours

umami situation

[crisp heath]

Are there any stories or anything about imperial governors who aren’t entirely moronic?

Like are ANY of them good at their job?

All I’ve seen are half wits

[crystal forum]

the ones who are don't make for interesting stories

the imperium demands a tithe of every planet, if the governor sucks at his job and doesnt fulfill the quota, he's replaced

they dont give a shit about what happens on the planet as long as it does its main job

feeding plebs is just a bonus since it keeps the factories running

[opaque coyote]

Basically

If they came across an Abhuman species that doesn't require sleep

They'd probably work them into extinction

And then revive the dead corpses as servitors to work further

On that topic

Do Servitors require food?

They still have a "brain" to maintain

And that brain is important for making it function

[outer wave]

Probably liquid nutrients at best for the brain maintainence

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah also here is a random fun fact

Tau music sounds much different compared to human music

This is because the Tau have different hearing spectrums

So to humans, Tau music just sound like a bunch of random beeps, boops, and farts

So basically

T'au be like "damn this shit is fire":

https://youtu.be/g2oyweqZ7WM?si=YGiAftWpirX9zcsG

[outer wave]

Damn this T'au music is fire

[echo vault]

Behold everyone, the Tyranid Dominatrix from Epic!

i kinda like it, the top bit reminds me of the chozo statues in super metroid and the semi living state they inhabit

its just a Tyranid Gargantuan Squiggoth/Orkeosaurus but i love him nonetheless

[sacred ginkgo]

Epic scale mini on a bike base is terrifying

I would google it but that name is interesting at best

[arctic talon]

L a r g e

[sacred ginkgo]

That gun is like the size of a land raider

[echo vault]

I like to imagine the thing in that purple command center can unlatch and is like a tyranid hive lord upper body that orders things around it I bet I just imagine it like a chozo in super metroid waking back up and fighting samus where it like goes from solid rock to living

[shadow plover]

y'all seen this then

http://www.modernsynthesist.com/2021/09/project-dominanid3-tyranid-dominatrix.html

[echo vault]

I was about to say the heirodule was inspired by the dominatrix but its so smol

thats so cool

[fallen plaza]

😁

[rigid dune]

What happened to Cadia survivors? As the planet is destroyed, are cadian soldiers now a finite resource? Or sis they resettle somewhere or something?

[celest dome]

Resettled, on many Planets

[storm jungle]

Resettled as said above, basically given new worlds renamed to New Cadia with numerical designations at times.

New Cadians are made through cadian parents banging constantly but the matter of recruitment has became a subject of controversy in the Cadian ranks/command due to them being an finite people until they can get back to repopulating their numbers to some degree as they treat non-cadians that get assimilated to be a part of their regiments with contempt or outright racism.

[rigid dune]

But the planet itself, did that have any importence to the competence of the Cadians? I am thinking like the Rambo guys, like they would not have been "evolved" into Rambo without thier jungle planet would they?

[storm jungle]

No its just a planet.

lol

Catachan guardsmen dont really "evolve" as much as train into what they are to survive, the planet has nothing to do with it.

[fallen plaza]

We do love cadians here in lore chat, so glad they completely survived an apocalyptic event that should have killed them but didnt

[storm jungle]

Me when planetary evacuation exists

[fallen plaza]

If only it didnt

[storm jungle]

stfu

before i strap your ass to an asteroid

[fallen plaza]

Nah

You cant do shit

😁

[dry epoch]

Stubbornness is a Cadian trait.

[fallen plaza]

Unfortunately

[storm jungle]

Getting told by a BL author

completely destroyed

[fallen plaza]

😁

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/ricky-oh-head-mellow-history-of-ricky-gif-23231184

[fallen plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/va-n-gif-20149172

[green loom]

The vast majority of cadians weren't even on Cadia

[wintry scarab]

Space marine 2 spoiler? ||Ive just clocked onto the fact that firstborn armour is in the game meaning that the mk7 helmet also is. Retro armour pack and my life is yours!||

(for a fair price otherwise im saying mean words on the internet)

[fallen plaza]

Definitely gonna be a skin pack

[storm jungle]

also thats Deathwatch gear

and very much based on the minis

hence the firstborn look

[dusk patrol]

Cosmetic dlc is gonna be their primary motivator so we’ll get everything eventually I’m sure in terms of different Mks and chapter themes and stuff

Assuming the game does well

Which I’m guessing it will

[storm jungle]

It has space marines killing aliens.

of course it will lmao

[fallen plaza]

It’ll definitely have a good first launch

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

I mean it’s also good

[storm jungle]

its deffo gonna lose steam but be a good game

its basic enough that anyone can play it

[fallen plaza]

In the long term though? We’ll see

[dusk patrol]

That’s kinda more important, based off all people who got early access it plays well and looks great

And runs great

[storm jungle]

I'll believe it when i see it

[dusk patrol]

How replayable it’ll be idk but it looks really solid

[storm jungle]

not once in my life have i seen early access people say anything true about the game aside from positives lol

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-bug-god-gif-19638019

[dusk patrol]

I don’t trust jack frags or whoever but the gameplay speaks for itself

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[dusk patrol]

And the leaked game earlier helps it too

I thought it was gonna be a lot more of a buggy mess

[fallen plaza]

The delayed beta didnt help that perception

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

as long as it doesnt fry my PC ill be good

i legit got no idea how they'll manage the nid hordes since its a big focus point with the WWZ tech

[wintry scarab]

Thats also what i thought before Halo infinite came out. Now i cry when i hear or see that word.

[fallen plaza]

Im not buying it until, well, a steam discount, and a proper review.

[storm jungle]

Yea i couldnt resist i just bought the base version

i dont need any DLC slop anyway

[dusk patrol]

I’ll pre order it, if it sucks I’ll refund it

[storm jungle]

i doubt it will

this is the sorta game that like

gets boring after near 30-40 hours imo

so it'll be fine

[dusk patrol]

It looks really solid, the campaign alone interests me enough, and I know I’ll probably enjoy the multiplayer enough

[wintry scarab]

Im only buying once multiple people that already has the game say its good.

[storm jungle]

prepare for a lot of that week 1

[dusk patrol]

There’s also gonna be the early access thing for people

[wintry scarab]

All of space marine 2 looks way too good to be true. Thats my only worry. There is no catch so far.

[storm jungle]

4 days early, some sick shit

[fallen plaza]

Space marines in a game!!!!!! Im soying so hard!!!!!!!

[storm jungle]

my condolences

[wintry scarab]

More like 4 days late if you dont spend more.

[dusk patrol]

My thing is it’s unlikely they somehow made some build which is great which everyone reviewing has been playing

And the main game is gonna fall apart

The fact that they’re letting all these people show off gameplay is more proof of their confidence in it

[wintry scarab]

Modern gaming finds a way.

[dusk patrol]

Modern gaming it’s also much more obvious if something is that bad

[wintry scarab]

I guess, true

[storm jungle]

Its basically gonna be a good game that people will enjoy more or less. Its definitely knowing what to do to distract people from some of its shortcomings ive seen from the recent footage with spectacles and big scenery pieces among other things.

Also again people like space marines so it will probably be another good entry point into warhammer as a good form of advertisement/primaris in general.

[dusk patrol]

You can’t hide a somehow broken game this much

Its a higher effort World War Z with better melee mechanics

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

Which is fine by me

[storm jungle]

Its basic and people will like it yeah.

[dusk patrol]

Plus I get to play marines

[fallen plaza]

The entire reveals and gameplay just had me feel like “i should be hyped for this, but im not”

[storm jungle]

im not really a fan of the melee combat still since its very shoddy mid 2000's but ill live with it.

[dusk patrol]

With a lot of customization

[storm jungle]

It doesnt really help that for the last 3 years all we had was the same shit of titus just barging into kill Gaunts/Warriors

they barely showed anything and the last Skulls was just them talking about the game lol

nowadays we get a footage of almost everything

[dusk patrol]

They still haven’t showed the Tsons parts in action

[storm jungle]

even filler shit like a 50s video of a boltgun

[fallen plaza]

This is why game companies should just stop announcing games so early

[dusk patrol]

It’s never gonna happen

[wintry scarab]

We have a bit of combat gameplay with them

[dusk patrol]

A small part

[fallen plaza]

Im sick of getting endless teasers over nothing

[dusk patrol]

Mostly cutscenes

[fallen plaza]

That is a sexy tartaros

[storm jungle]

T.Sons got proper drip

[dusk patrol]

I mean how you fight them and how they play. And if they’ll be in the PvE mode

[fallen plaza]

I liked it when they were red though 😁

[dusk patrol]

Which I assume they will

The other nice thing is how many options they have to add for the PvE missions for enemies

[storm jungle]

shut the fuck up

ketchup bottle lookin' ass

[fallen plaza]

Are you fucking serious

Red tsons was peak

[dusk patrol]

They literally have a lot of traitor legion models already done

[dusk patrol]

Imagine liking the normie red or blue Tsons

[fallen plaza]

I am that normie

[dusk patrol]

Supposed worshippers of the god of change when you ask them to paint their dudes anything other than blue or red

[storm jungle]

i think another thing i disliked is how they forced some chaos marine legion dudes into specific not-primaris classes

like an alpha legion reaver with a grappling hook is just

why

[dusk patrol]

Alpha Legion is sniper nerd

[fallen plaza]

That is kinda funny in a goofy way

[dusk patrol]

Zerker is Reiver

[storm jungle]

Plague Marine is Bulwark

[dusk patrol]

Which is oddly fitting

[fallen plaza]

The alpha legion having like batman villain gear

[dusk patrol]

I do hope they’ll give options for switching legions for classes though yeah

Or at least some decent customization

[storm jungle]

lmao

[wintry scarab]

I just hope the chaos marines get some love. I hope its not just loyalists. I beg for at least chaos customization. Because so far, we have only really seen full sets.

[fallen plaza]

Ive yet to seen customization options for traitor legions

[storm jungle]

we need more leaks

i cant wait 4 weeks

[fallen plaza]

4 fucking weeks

[dusk patrol]

There was color options I believe mentioned

[storm jungle]

thats for campaign stuff i think?

[dusk patrol]

Probably just make all my dudes black legion versions

[storm jungle]

you can buy color packs too

just like real life

[wintry scarab]

Thats not enough 😭

[fallen plaza]

A large group of black astartes

Its like a….

[storm jungle]

eyo what the fu-

[fallen plaza]

Black legion of sorts

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/im-feeling-romantical-gif-13562810949378000491

ooh right

whoops

[wintry scarab]

I saw someone say that you can earn them as well? Or buy the dlc to skip. I beg thats how it works with colours because locking colours away will be dumb af

[fallen plaza]

Fruedian slip

[dusk patrol]

I’m fairly certain they’ve said there’s chaos customization it’s just probably still gonna be limited to the legion theme for each class

[storm jungle]

You will basically have base free gear you can unlock

the other shit is cosmetic bundles/DLC

[dusk patrol]

Each class has a bunch of gear you can unlock

[storm jungle]

no idea how the grind for it will be

[fallen plaza]

I can imagine giving cosmetic options for legion players is much more tedious work wise

[dusk patrol]

It’s like 37 games per class to get it all

[storm jungle]

yeah the more way fancier shit is things you gotta pay real money for

also just like real life

[fallen plaza]

Unfortunately

[dusk patrol]

I just want bionics

[storm jungle]

you get one head cosmetic

[storm jungle]

be happy bitch

[dusk patrol]

And a hand

[fallen plaza]

He looks so dopey

[storm jungle]

and iron one

[fallen plaza]

Like a grimdark golfball

[wintry scarab]

Again, my cope is: if its a fair price ill pay with a smile on my face. But if its like £20 for some colours and a helmet im going to frown irl

[storm jungle]

I legit dont expect fair pricing

we are talking bundles here

also like, space marine fans will buy anything

turns to camera

[fallen plaza]

40 dolla for one loincloth

[dusk patrol]

I don’t expect I’m gonna want to buy a lot of it anyways, it’s more just options

[storm jungle]

^

i enjoy default gear

[fallen plaza]

Nerd

[dusk patrol]

Then basic look is fine for me for most stuff

[storm jungle]

if it was up to me id just slap a firstborn helmet on my marine and call it a day

[rocky gale]

Wow Eternal face reveal

[fallen plaza]

His profile pic greatly exaggerated his looks

[dusk patrol]

Like if I’m doing IH it’s not like there’s much crazy gear to add, mostly just bionics and maybe the tech marine armor if they add that

[fallen plaza]

Much chubbier here

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/2ZoflvoX698

im just skimming through this again

trying to pick/see anything i missed

[fallen plaza]

I like the bulwarks shield options

[dusk patrol]

It’s definitely ultra themed for the base stuff mostly

[wintry scarab]

God, im coping so hard. I dont want another darktide situation. Please! I beg of thee!

[dusk patrol]

But that also might not be all the base stuff

[dusk patrol]

The customization is much better than Darktide at least

[fallen plaza]

5 cosmetic options every 2 months

[dusk patrol]

More akin to halo

[storm jungle]

Darktide didnt really have the behest of being allowed to stay in the oven to be fair

SM2 meanwhile mostly just remained in the dark before we finally get news this few months lol

also its been like

almost 3 years since the teaser

[fallen plaza]

I’d like to imagine it was GW that insisted on the delay lmao

[storm jungle]

lol deffo

this is a flagship advertisement game

[wintry scarab]

Its just a spectrum for me. One side is fair, the other side is maximum profit. I just hope they stay near the middle or left leaning. Imo, darktide started off in the middle, then went left then rammed itself to the right.

[fallen plaza]

Sm2 is for nerds who watch lore through youtube shorts

[dusk patrol]

My thing is, there’s probably not gonna be a fomo shop

With how they’ve said theyre doing it

[rocky gale]

Isn't there preorder exlusive skins?

[storm jungle]

Cant wait for people to go "I dont wanna play an asian person wheres the head option swap"

[storm jungle]

Yes lol

[dusk patrol]

And it’ll probably be largely a lot of stuff I can skip

[dusk patrol]

The crux and a chain sword and bolter skin

[wintry scarab]

WHAT?! ITS EXCLUSIVE?!

[fallen plaza]

He’s not black so unlikely to get any complaints

[storm jungle]

Eh its not that bad

[dusk patrol]

I would like alternative head options tbh

Not really a reason not to have them

Make your own dude

[storm jungle]

[fallen plaza]

Weird they didnt add it on this build

[wintry scarab]

FUCK YEAH IT IS! I HATE THAT SHIT. Im frowning irl rn

[fallen plaza]

Especially for things like space wolves

[dusk patrol]

But I am also an extremely closeted racist so it might just be that

[rocky gale]

Where's my female head options?

[storm jungle]

🇺🇸

[storm jungle]

LMAO

Oh my god just imagine

[fallen plaza]

[storm jungle]

some dude going on a tangent

like that pronouns thing in starfield

[fallen plaza]

Dont push it

The pronouns one is at least funny

[storm jungle]

basically the same thing tbh

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-cat-tip-over-rude-gif-12779271

[fallen plaza]

If that got added it will just be ugly

[dusk patrol]

They’re not gonna put female space marines in lol

[fallen plaza]

That would be a perfect april 1st update though

[storm jungle]

they should so this fandom finally implodes

im bored

[fallen plaza]

Just give them female heads and not even change the voice

[fallen plaza]

I wish i wasnt so jaded with 40k

[storm jungle]

same

[fallen plaza]

I missed when i first discovered this franchise

[dusk patrol]

I already have to put up with women 50% of the time irl that’s enough for me

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[wintry scarab]

Idk if im sexist or some shit but i really dislike the idea of female space marines.

[dusk patrol]

My brother and I went to see Twisters

[storm jungle]

female custodians is better anyway

literally the best option they could go for lol

[dusk patrol]

I think the female population of the US should apologize for letting that dogshit movie be successful

[storm jungle]

maybe we should twister your dick off

[fallen plaza]

Real talk female sm is kinda lame and not as cool as female custo

[storm jungle]

i agree yeah

[dusk patrol]

Like, ffs just watch the Sidney Sweeney Glenn Powell movie you horny fucks

He gets almost naked in that

[storm jungle]

female custodians at least basically showcases space marines are mass-produced genetic basic-boys

while custodians just can get anyone they want in because they are peak human or whatever

[fallen plaza]

The whole male custodians thing was probably an oversight

[storm jungle]

Uh

we do know it was planned way back

so its not like there isnt presedence for it

[dusk patrol]

In my opinion the idea that every faction needs to cater to everyone is a huge mistake and it’s fine if there’s restrictions on factions like anything else, marines exist the way they do and I’m ok with that. Them being a brotherhood is a big part of their lore.

They don’t work as well if you add women too imo without making the women basically just dudes

[wintry scarab]

Maybe its because im a chad that has read like 3 40k books ands gest most of my lore from videos and games, but i really didnt mind the custodes being female. From what ive seen, it makes sense for them to be at least a few. I saw how gw handled it tho on social media and imo that was not a good way of doing it lol.

[storm jungle]

Its really not bad to cater when it makes more money, theres a reason we are finally getting proper diversity in most imperial factions without early mid 2000's macho-cringe. Marines are just too concrete in lore and dont need any girls when fem custodians exist

[storm jungle]

Well yeah because it doesnt matter

custodians are the sub-faction of sub-factions

them having girls makes sense, they'll take anyone for trials since their genetic methods of recruitment is literally pseudo-psychic science alchemy

the controversy is just from this fandom being filled with sexist/homophobic chuds lmao

[fallen plaza]

I dont think so personally

[storm jungle]

it absolutely is

lol

[fallen plaza]

I just think the entire thing was jusr forced and added poorly

[storm jungle]

Nah

[dusk patrol]

For similar reasons I don’t want Sister of Battle to have dudes in this ranks, beyond like special units which aren’t actually SoB, because there is an inherent feminine aspect to them and it’s ok for that to exist

[storm jungle]

Thats literally never gonna happen tho

and is a moot-point

[fallen plaza]

Like i recall GW blocked anyone who complained about it on there twitter

[dusk patrol]

Just like there’s an inherent masculine aspect to marines and that’s ok too

[storm jungle]

their entire identity is being a female order

why the fuck would they give them dudes lol

[dusk patrol]

Same as marines yeah

Which is my point

[storm jungle]

Well yeah basically lol

[fallen plaza]

We already have though, its called arbites, jk e

[storm jungle]

You legit had to have stuck your head into dirt if you think it wasnt just people being toxic nutjobs.

it was genuinely ridiculous

was it poorly handled, sure, but it didnt stop some people from being total psychos about it

[wintry scarab]

I agree with this from what i saw. I dont have an issue with the actual change they made but from what i saw it did seem to be forced. And then GW did that stuff after people were unhappy

[dusk patrol]

I think there was plenty of reasonable reasons to not prefer female Custodes, the discourse all sucks anyways and I don’t really enjoy talking about it

[storm jungle]

there really wasnt tbh

again sub-faction of sub-factions

[dusk patrol]

There is, you can just prefer they remain all male

[storm jungle]

if you were this upset over a retcon like this you definitely have not seen the worst of it over the years

[dusk patrol]

It’s that simple

[storm jungle]

Why is that the case

like at all lol

"oh the emperor is sexist"

[wintry scarab]

That as well tbf

[storm jungle]

since when

[dusk patrol]

The same reason I can prefer anything

[storm jungle]

So no reason

lol

[fallen plaza]

I like men thats why

[dusk patrol]

Like I prefer SoB remain all female, I prefer Astartes remain all male

[storm jungle]

you got sapce marines for that

[storm jungle]

Except in their case it makes sense.

so not really

[fallen plaza]

Right

[dusk patrol]

Why? They can literally just write it so it changed

[storm jungle]

Left

[storm jungle]

They wouldnt because it makes no sense

[fallen plaza]

I think we should stop before this gets worse

[storm jungle]

custodians never had a "male only" rule

[dusk patrol]

They did

[fallen plaza]

Im tired of this discussion

[storm jungle]

only some wordings like "brotherhood"

[shadow plover]

SoB being women is well explained in world and the reasoning makes sense(also the army range has like 30% of males so that doesn't even compare well), space marines not so much

[dusk patrol]

That lore got changed

[wintry scarab]

Oooh rah! Ill kiss a brother and smack him on the ass! In a non gay way tho.

[storm jungle]

^

[storm jungle]

the lore of simple wording

and a codex passage people dont pay attention to

[dusk patrol]

They were definitely all male until they retconned it recently

[storm jungle]

there isnt anything like that 30k booklet where it outright says only men can be custodians

Theres a difference between

• "They take noble sons"
  and
• "Only the genetic science of the astartes allows men at any time by any means to become na astartes"

[fallen plaza]

This again

I should have never brought this up

[storm jungle]

this is just semantics, its a harmless change and it doesnt matter

literally just get over it

[green loom]

YOu're right you shouldn't have

[dusk patrol]

I dont care much but they’re both similarly easy things to retcon frankly if you wanted to

[storm jungle]

Not really

again

your two factions you bring up got the gender thing in their identity

custodians dont

[fallen plaza]

Easiest way to soft retcon it

[dusk patrol]

The Custodes definitely did

[storm jungle]

No they did not

You are cherrypicking pretty much

[green loom]

Don't you doe

[fallen plaza]

We can say that the emperor demanded tomboys within his custodians so the boys can be less shy

Thats why there were no females prior to this

[shadow plover]

They just happened to only have all male cast thus far, no definitive all bros club

[dusk patrol]

I’m not, it’s fine they retconned it but there was definitely a masculine dichotomy vs the sisters of silence feminine one

[fallen plaza]

You couldnt notice

[storm jungle]

Ah yes

the SoS

the girls who literally have been mostly forgotten both in universe and by the writers

and gotta keep their mouth shut

lmao

[green loom]

Dilara how far down are we on the argument checklist

[storm jungle]

Honestly beats me

i hate this dumb argument

[dusk patrol]

Sisters of Silence have a ton of great stuff in novels and lore

[storm jungle]

They really dont

[green loom]

I think this is like point 5 in the category of "no one cares"

[wintry scarab]

From the research that ive done (minimal), Isnt the main issue people have is that female custodese have just never been brought up. Like ever untill now. But GW is acting like female custodes are a well known thing? A way better way of going about it would have been to just say that there is a small amount of them. Thats why you have never heard of them.

[dusk patrol]

Their models range is the real issue

[storm jungle]

also like, i dont need people to speak for me when it comes to female facton representation either.

[fallen plaza]

Im just hoping we get to the religion argument checklist

[storm jungle]

probably the biggest thing i hated when female custodians were not a thing

"oh you got sisters of silence"

[green loom]

Yeah because that's a new thing that GW have never done before

Ever

Glances at Rogal Dorn Tanks, Glances at Primaris

[rocky gale]

To think this started with a joke about female head options

[raven stone]

And the most hilarious thing is, they claim they won't complain if Sisters of Silence got Custodes Statlines...

[dusk patrol]

The real answer is they should have done it when they re did Custodes for heresy way back when

[storm jungle]

Basically its the main 40k thing of always having transhuman characters be male due to the player demographic, the Custodians also got this treatment since they are pretty old as a part of the lore, in the mid 2000's they were gonna get introduced in a novel but the only reason they werent was simply because the minis for them were already produced and had male heads so the author got told this in response, so its not even about the lore either.

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah

it legit comes off as mansplaining to me

as much as i hate the word lmao

[green loom]

They were, apparently, too late since the discussion didn't come up before the models released and it just sort of got stuck there

[raven stone]

The craziest thing of all is they try to treat 40k lore with the same vigour as...real life archaeology.

[storm jungle]

ah yes

the real life archaeology

oh uh

"gene alchemy"

[dusk patrol]

You’re putting an argument in my mouth also, I’m not claiming the SoS were some replacement but there was clear masculine themes with the Custodes vs feminine ones for SoS and that was the dichotomy.

[storm jungle]

....

Who the fuck cares about the dichotomy

lol

[green loom]

As clear as this mud I'm drawing

[raven stone]

Look mate, just do what I do: if you don't like it, mentally redact it and move on.

[storm jungle]

^

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah

[wintry scarab]

Idk about the tanks as ive only been in the hobby for like 3 years, but with primaris, people had this same issue no?

[spring cairn]

my headcannon is the only true cannon

[green loom]

The only dichotomy there was that one had boobs and the other had man boobs

[dusk patrol]

Who cares about any of this, I’m just saying why people were allowed to prefer male Custodes and it’s not some inherently terrible thing

[storm jungle]

I mean

[green loom]

You do

[storm jungle]

you clearly do as much as me to talk this much

[green loom]

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

My point is all this doesn’t matter, “who cares” isn’t an argument

[storm jungle]

It comes across as one tbh.

[rocky gale]

Just like I do when watching HotD, ignore all the bad things they make my favourite characters do.

[storm jungle]

You can simply just not care about it, its an inconsequential change to most people.

A setting filled with this many retcons and this is what people get caught up with is just silly.

[dusk patrol]

My point is it’s perfectly valid to jsut prefer one thing, jsut like I think it’s valid to what female space marines even if I think it’s a poor choice and shouldn’t be done

[storm jungle]

"Oh they ignored the wordings on this codex"

[green loom]

I just draw the soldiers

[spring cairn]

bery reasonable

[dusk patrol]

People acting like the only reason you can prefer Custodes to be male is because you hate women or whatever is what’s more annoying

[storm jungle]

Thats the thing though

[dusk patrol]

The entire discourse was and is cancerous

[storm jungle]

the vocal majority are literally this lol

idk why people act like this fandom is not infested with racists and bigots

[spring cairn]

yeah it's because the discourse has been polluted by actual braindamaged individuals

[storm jungle]

THANK YOU

perfectly put

[dusk patrol]

Not in my experience but the entire thing was poisoned from the start so it doesn’t matter

[storm jungle]

in your experience huh

i guess i just imagined all the statue/marine pfp people i banned over the years

[dusk patrol]

It’s impossible to tell because it immediately became mud slinging

[green loom]

But like, nothings stopping you from making your shield host not have ladies

[storm jungle]

^

[spring cairn]

true true

[green loom]

It's inconsiquential

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

[rocky gale]

Just like there's nothing actually stopping me putting lady heads on my Marines

[dusk patrol]

Nothing is stopping someone from making female space marine models

[green loom]

Just because some of them have a weaker jaw doesn't really reduce them as a faction

[dusk patrol]

That has nothing to do with my point

[storm jungle]

IS NOTHING SACRED ANYMORE

[dusk patrol]

Nothing stopped anyone from making female Custodes models before either

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-handsome-toasty's-gif-handsome-my-honest-reaction-gif-13732984191404515456

[fallen plaza]

I'm just mostly disappointed because this might give them ideas to do things even more stupid if this is how they retcon things

[storm jungle]

"even more stupid"

have you been like

living under a rock

[fallen plaza]

They always find a way

[storm jungle]

"We got this entire brand line of marines that were hidden under mars for billions of years"

lol

[dusk patrol]

That’s not a retcon though

[storm jungle]

....

💀

[dusk patrol]

A retcon is Indomitus

[shadow plover]

Neither is women custodians

[dusk patrol]

And how they changed the timeline for that

[storm jungle]

Ruined mah hobby

[dusk patrol]

It definitely is

[shadow plover]

How

[dusk patrol]

It’s fine that it is

But it is

[green loom]

Ok so like

[dusk patrol]

There’s zero examples of them before, they’re always mentioned to only be male, they were only male before

[fallen plaza]

Because we hadn't had a woman custodian mentioned till recently

[dusk patrol]

Now they can be female too

[storm jungle]

So literally like

any new mini

or storybeat

or plot point

[shadow plover]

There was zero mention of sub terrain space marines on mars before too

[storm jungle]

but of course no my bad

this is completely different

[storm jungle]

thats not a retcon 🤓

we simply werent TOLD

[green loom]

Okay but why shouldn't they have women

[storm jungle]

because lore

and retcons

thats the argument

lol

[fallen plaza]

Right I think you should all shut up now

[storm jungle]

nah

[wintry scarab]

This is all just boiling down to the fact that it was handled poorly. Just like primaris or any other stupid choice GW has made.

[spring cairn]

No one here said they shouldn't tbh

[dusk patrol]

Its not a new mini, its changing the prior established lore of a faction

[storm jungle]

Pretty much this yeah.

[dusk patrol]

Which is fine btw

But it definitely a retcon

[storm jungle]

okay so like

any othe retcon

so the Newcrons are bad

[green loom]

Brb moving the goalpost

[dusk patrol]

There’s been several retcons in 40k

[storm jungle]

^

[shadow plover]

It hasn't been established that there were zero women as custodians before

[dusk patrol]

It’s a fucking retcon though

[storm jungle]

oh my god

get over it dude

[dusk patrol]

Yes, it had

[storm jungle]

This is like

[dusk patrol]

It was always specifically men

[storm jungle]

peak form of whats it like talking to a guy with a space marine pfp

[shadow plover]

Literally never has it been stated that there were men and only men

[dusk patrol]

I don’t get why does it even matter that it’s a retcon?

[spring cairn]

i think a "source" should be able to settle this fairly

[dusk patrol]

Who cares

[storm jungle]

It has in passing in a codex sentence or two

[green loom]

Jerk "It was known" that they recruit from the sons of terran nobility!

[fallen plaza]

Noble sons of terra

[storm jungle]

fucked up

[fallen plaza]

That was the wording I remember

[storm jungle]

yep pretty much

[green loom]

Like a lot of other things that were "known"

[storm jungle]

also "brotherhood of demigods" even tho brotherhoods can have women in them lol

[shadow plover]

And those were something along the lines of "sons of whatever" when referring to a group of custodians etc

[fallen plaza]

I should punt all of you right now

[storm jungle]

Its loosely worded enough that it works fine ye

[dusk patrol]

Why would they need to change the wording the codex if nothing changed

[storm jungle]

I can literally

make this exact argument

about the dorn tank

why is it here

why did we need a new tank

it was established we had better bigger tanks

[spring cairn]

we always need more tanks

[storm jungle]

omg guys

[storm jungle]

Overwatch Moment

[dusk patrol]

Also for the love of god stop this shit, you know I’m not bad faith and this is so reductive and snippy

[storm jungle]

You are the one instigating it my guy.

[green loom]

Sure you aren't lol

[storm jungle]

Its not my fault like

you are outright denying toxic fans dont exist in this fandom

[dusk patrol]

Yes and I’d agreed

[storm jungle]

lol

[dusk patrol]

Where did I say this

[storm jungle]

You literally said

[fallen plaza]

You still are being snippy about it

[storm jungle]

in "your experience"

you never saw any

[dusk patrol]

No

[storm jungle]

Well yeah because its a dumb null argument

[dusk patrol]

I said that it wasn’t some vast majority of everyone against the idea were all deist and toxic

[storm jungle]

nitpicking this one stupid change out of an entire setting of stupid retcons

like

its a game of about toy soldiers

idk why everyone is this pent up about it lmao

[crisp heath]

When did the deists get involved

[storm jungle]

beats me tbh

[crisp heath]

Why we getting theological

[dusk patrol]

No I’m getting annoyed because you’re trying to act like it’s not a retcon for some reason when it definitely was, it’s fine that it was. GW has done this before, it’s a fairly big change for a faction.

[green loom]

(It isn't)

[spring cairn]

we can get really theological if you want

at least I can

[dusk patrol]

If it isn’t then why do you care at all?

[green loom]

Why do you

[dusk patrol]

Im not even against it

I just don’t think inherently being against it is some horrible thing

[storm jungle]

Bro why are you dragging this argument out so much

agree to disagree lol

[dusk patrol]

Same as I get why people want female space marines

[fallen plaza]

Oh shut up dont act like you didn't want to argue this

[storm jungle]

also inb4 this guy says im the one doing it

[storm jungle]

there it is lol

[dusk patrol]

I mean I’m getting annoyed cause people are trying to paint me in a bad light instead of jsut arguing in good faith and not being snippy

[storm jungle]

Yeah because you dont really paint your position in a good light either.

Again, agree to disagree.

[fallen plaza]

He really isnt

[dusk patrol]

When I know I’ve more than earned the right to know I don’t think that way

[fallen plaza]

In fact he is probably the most neutral I've seen people argue this

[storm jungle]

[wintry scarab]

I will say im siding with Eternal here. Things are getting a bit mean.

[fallen plaza]

Y'all are the ones actually being agitated by this

Not eter

[green loom]

[dusk patrol]

Anyways, whatever

I’m excited for space marine 2

[spring cairn]

should change topic to something not controversial like the pigmy faction of ye olden days

[storm jungle]

shut the fuck UP

[fallen plaza]

Uh

[spring cairn]

and why they should be introduced to 40k

[low locust]

The only problem I have with the retcon is that it seems to be lazily/sloppily implemented. I.e. it isn't followed up by new books/lore or similar things. I'm not a mini-guy myself, but has James even released female custodes minis?

[fallen plaza]

I like fire trucks and monster trucks

[storm jungle]

They were gonna but missed the deadline

[dusk patrol]

I personally thought the pygmies were a very tasteful portrayal

[spring cairn]

there's no good way to retcons sadly

[dusk patrol]

They probably will

[fallen plaza]

True

[raven stone]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/09/chalnath-dispatches-cunning-and-brutal/

[low locust]

Fair enough, as long as it is handled like the other retcons, then I have no problem whatsoever

[green loom]

See I hear this constantly but what would you have them do lol

[fallen plaza]

I especially like how they portrayed araby

[raven stone]

Orks are joining the Kill Team Chalnath mess

[dusk patrol]

The real answer to all this is they should have done it back when they first did the heresy revamp and model line

[storm jungle]

Its more or less on the same vein with Primaris or the Oldcrons getting exterminated (good riddance 😔 )

[green loom]

Make a big show of Checks notes
Allowing women?

[spring cairn]

nippon is better handled, I love the Toyota clan

[rose thorn]

discover the fate of helcrown

That city is a fucking of dust with these win rates

[low locust]

Make models that are appropriate to the change in the lore. Release novels or other lore-related stuff to go with it. Instead of just going "They were always there" or whatever the quote was

[raven stone]

Tabletop Cathay MIGHT tempt me to join Old World

[fallen plaza]

Thanks for bringing it back to the original topic smartass

[raven stone]

That be the merciful end. I think all the residents are transformed into Skaven at this rate...

[dusk patrol]

I do wanna see some of those terracotta statues as models

And the dragons

[spring cairn]

TT cathay and kislev for the old world, i wanna see those models gw

[green loom]

It's a genuine question

[rose thorn]

Sadly you can’t copyright Chinese history

[rocky gale]

Cathay doesn't have like old Fantasy models does it?

[spring cairn]

(don't play old world just get total war warhammer)

[rocky gale]

So if they add it to Old World it would be the first faction with only new models

[dusk patrol]

Nope

[rose thorn]

Ppl have been using middle earth models as them

[dusk patrol]

They were only vaguely spoken about

[green loom]

I liked how they handled the lore side tbh since I don't view it as a major change that needed much fanfare
HOWEVER it would have been nice to get some female heads with the shield cap

[dusk patrol]

Nothing established really

[fallen plaza]

I wish they did

[dusk patrol]

Same as Nippon

[fallen plaza]

The TW stuff is genuinely cool

[spring cairn]

well now they do

[dusk patrol]

Kislev I think had a couple things?

[shadow plover]

They did, the codex has lore with them, models will come when they'll come

[spring cairn]

thx to CA

[low locust]

As long as it's followed up with proper implementation into the lore (and/or minis) it's whatever to me. But if they are not doing that (time will tell) then it just reeks of them trying to shoehorn in things without people noticing

[dusk patrol]

Or at least some concept

[green loom]

They make a short story with one, in a codex

I don't think that's lowkey

[storm jungle]

No comment.

[dusk patrol]

It’s something

[green loom]

[dusk patrol]

I wouldn’t call it much

[rocky gale]

Oh hey, did you notice they were launching a new edition of the Lord of the Rings game

[storm jungle]

fantasy minis...

[rocky gale]

People were saying it was getting shelved after this edition, so nice to see that rumour was fake

[dusk patrol]

But they’ll probably have a female Custodes in the next watcher book

[fallen plaza]

Shoutout to the 4 players who play middle earth

[spring cairn]

real heroes

[dusk patrol]

Middle Earth I think is primarily collectors based off stats

Not a lot of people playing the game

[shadow plover]

I know two different people who play it and both of them have their own groups playing it so it can't be too uncommon

[dusk patrol]

Is the new Rings of Power out yet? Idk if I’m even gonna watch it but

Maybe idk

First season was ugh

[wintry scarab]

I disagree. I think there are good ways to retcon. Look at your favourite franchises. If they are old, they will most likely be filled with retcons. But those retcons are what make it so good now. Something like clone troopers in star wars. They were retconned to have personalities and have a chip in their heads when order 66 happened.

[green loom]

Isn't the Ttop game pretty good too

[rocky gale]

Some cool new looking Carn Dûm models though

[dusk patrol]

I’ll say it was funny people complained about the one elf dude being black when he was imo by far the most interesting and best part of that show.

[fallen plaza]

They look okay

[dusk patrol]

I have no idea

Probably

[storm jungle]

Raceswapping is whatever as long as the acting is good

[spring cairn]

I mean retcons can do good

but they're always "forced"

and so imo you can't do them smoothly

[storm jungle]

^

even smallest stuff

people will complain lol

[spring cairn]

it's a contradiction

[wintry scarab]

Well yeah. But im just saying that a retcon can be a good thing if done right.

[spring cairn]

for sure

[storm jungle]

We should retcon you

[rocky gale]

I think I stopped watching Rings of Power after like the second episode

[storm jungle]

out of this group

[wintry scarab]

D:

[fallen plaza]

Alright

Now for something interesting

[storm jungle]

Same, but its mostly because im not a huge LOTR fan minus the movies

[fallen plaza]

Whats your mini hottake, what do you not like

[rocky gale]

My mum looked at me and asked "Are there any more episodes out yet?" and I told her no, so she said "Good because we're not watching anymore"

[storm jungle]

Is it me shoving my fist up your a-

[storm jungle]

LOL

[fallen plaza]

How about not stealing jokes from eternal nerd

😁

[storm jungle]

WE LITERALLY ALL SAY HIS LINE

[fallen plaza]

Lies

[storm jungle]

i searched "up your ass" and i instantly regret it

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/copyright-gif-22115000

[fallen plaza]

I heard google gets better results

[rocky gale]

My first complaint about the show was them showing Galadriel being bullied by the other Elven kids and her brother tells her "You must touch the Darkness to understand it" when like this is Valinor, beneath the light of the two trees and the Silmaril, Darkness isn't a thing yet, this is before the coming of Morgoth and Ungoliant and the poisoning of the Trees, Night and Darkness and Evil aren't even concepts that the Elves would understand or know about at this point.

[fallen plaza]

Uh, i mean mini hottakes as in miniatures

Not spoilers kek

[rocky gale]

I mean it's not really a spoiler

It occurs within the first 2 minutes of the first episode

[storm jungle]

ruined the show

good job lady

[green loom]

Brb spoiling Space Marine 2

Titus is in it

[dusk patrol]

Next you’re gonna tell me he’s a space marine

[rocky gale]

https://youtu.be/82t4F1niPig

[dusk patrol]

https://youtu.be/u1KSvuNkZVA?si=rY4u3gOX_K8b8kQa

[paper haven]

To be fair, I believe the show did that first.

[storm jungle]

I was joking but still lmao

[dusk patrol]

It has some issues

[paper haven]

I haven't actually watched the show, but I do know lots of people complained

[dusk patrol]

It wasn’t the worst thing ever but yeah it’s not that great

Idk

[storm jungle]

if you dont know anything about LOTR its basically a generic fantasy show with no intrigue

if you know most stuff about LOTR its mostly just butchery

[dusk patrol]

If you cut it correctly it’s about a bunch of persecuted Vogue models with pointy ears being enslaved and attacked by the Uggos

But fortunately they can do complex synchronized dance attacks and arrow shots

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-funny-im-coming-gif-13998003

Oh sorry that’s actually leaked footage of the Battle of the Gullet

When Jace sees a bolt out of the corner of his eye

[storm jungle]

[shadow plover]

Without knowing pretty much anything beyond the movies (which I adore), the LotR show was pretty good. Enjoyed the first season more than the first season of House of the Dragon which came out around the same time

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[shadow plover]

Classic Dilara moment

[storm jungle]

[raven stone]

Meta meme time

[shadow plover]

if we'd grow stronger from all of this, then maybe

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-shut-up-bitch-gif-24566267

[glossy turret]

lets see how many down votes the word tau gets fellow imperials

[storm jungle]

the what

[still cove]

What's the status of the mk 6 Corvus armor in the most current era of 40k? Banished to sanctified antiquity due to GW's money lust Primaris boys or is it still used by anyone at all? (ping me with answers and feel free to add book sources I'm just curious since it's my fav armor)

[storm jungle]

Every armor type minus some more obscure 30k marks are still around.

theres no reason for them to be exactly out of commission

[shadow plover]

Primaris also has it's version of it

[storm jungle]

yeah GW knows better than to expunge older armor marks

its the same reason they couldnt replace the terminator armor

too iconic essentially

[still cove]

Oh I didn't expect a fast answer

nice

[storm jungle]

Ye the only obscure shit is like the stuff chaos marines still wear like the extendo-exhaust pipes and other way obscure traitor legion specific shit like sarum helmets and whatnot

[storm jungle]

but Chapters still keep that thing of "we got 30k gear because we found a stash" among other excuses for it

[shadow plover]

Shrike also has the helmet but doesn't wear it on his model

it's dangling on his belt

[storm jungle]

fucking gay-ass character

GO BACK TO SAINTS ROW

[shadow plover]

how does that differ from other marines

[storm jungle]

Exactly, it doesnt

[still cove]

Emo never went out of style

[queen laurel]

Matt Miller looking mothafucka

[storm jungle]

I WAS GONNA SAY

LMAO

[queen laurel]

BAHAHAHA

[storm jungle]

what a twink

[shadow plover]

who the fuck remembers the names of Saints Row characters

[queen laurel]

oh that is funny

[storm jungle]

the fuck is that suppose to mean BITCH

who cannot remember Johnny Gyatt

[still cove]

beaky boys can always get it from me and by "it", heh. well. let's just say... my assistance and sacred knowledge of rites of maintenance, for free

[dusk patrol]

He’s not wrong tbh

[shadow plover]

you know exactly what that means

[storm jungle]

theres a reason the 30k model line launched with their stuff

[shadow plover]

I honestly thought that was his name for a second

[storm jungle]

people love dildo-masks

[dusk patrol]

All I remember is Johnny

[storm jungle]

all because hes played by that chad asian actor

[still cove]

I'm a furry

[storm jungle]

NOOOOOO

[still cove]

It's the bird shape

[storm jungle]

[still cove]

😈

[dusk patrol]

You have ad mech pfp

Saying you’re a furry is redundant

[still cove]

Yeah and

TRUE

[queen laurel]

A furry works in the tech related field

[storm jungle]

skitarii also ride dog-horses

[queen laurel]

really really hit it on the nail there

[still cove]

I don't IRL

[still cove]

Cybercanids my babies

[queen laurel]

irrelevant

[storm jungle]

all furries have to be in some high paying position

we dont make the rules, society does

[still cove]

I'm not

[storm jungle]

well you will be

or else

[still cove]

I'm in Costco

[shadow plover]

then you're too young

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/pGlpu4LqSuE?si=CaOthJsQXYewQ_9O

[still cove]

Nah I won't unless I poach the food court manager or supervisor position

[crystal forum]

@arctic talon literally you

[still cove]

I'm 29 I'm just poor and uneducated

[shadow plover]

well that's still pretty young

[still cove]

About middle aged for me seeing that most of my dad's side dies between 40-60

[plush mason]

same

[still cove]

I was thinking about making a space marine blorbo

[crystal forum]

i went to college to pay off my art

[still cove]

That's why I asked about the armor

ty for help

[storm jungle]

any other questions you can just ask here

[still cove]

I don't usually go here. Maybe later

[storm jungle]

damn

[still cove]

Tried to look up stuff elsewhere but couldn't get a clear answer so I figured I'd ask here

Thanks Reddit (sarcasm)

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah just in case you might accidentally ask a dumb question here and a good chance every person here will punch you in the head so hard it will reset you to windows vista

[wintry scarab]

Is there a darktide update coming out before SM2 or is it basically joever?

[still cove]

They will break their fists upon my dense skull

[queen laurel]

Well too bad i wrapped hard drives on my knucklez

[still cove]

That will shatter

[queen laurel]

Iron Jawz shape metal by punching it for their armor

I win

[storm jungle]

Yeah the game is abandoned.

[queen laurel]

But yes i'm f****** with you

[storm jungle]

I can confirm this as a playtester

[queen laurel]

Just try to ask a question that isn't too broad or something like that

[storm jungle]

we are working on nothing and just sitting in the test server playing apex legends

[shadow plover]

yeah the devs moved to france to work on SM2

[storm jungle]

^

[outer wave]

The final update is actually coming next week as a hotfix

Then it'll finally be abandoned, thank god.... finally...

[still cove]

I win because I'm unable to be killed through the cruelty of the universe

[queen laurel]

Yes and as a reward for the loyal players we will get sent a gif of ranick twerking

[outer wave]

Straight jorking it

[queen laurel]

Animated by yours truly notfuegonasaus

[outer wave]

Personally I hope they add in Wolfer also twerking it

He probably has a massive bubble ass

[queen laurel]

Or Jafon1

[outer wave]

Ngl it could be cool to see devs collab together for something like that

Probably would end up being a 'too many cooks' situation but sounds cool at least on paper

[shadow plover]

yeah that sounds very likely

the too many cooks situation that is

[outer wave]

Yeah

[still cove]

Actually maybe I do have a high paying job for what I do.

I get paid $21/hr to touch wiener

[outer wave]

AYO?!

[fallen plaza]

THAT'S FR##KING GAY!

[paper haven]

I do enjoy the conversations that happen here

[plush mason]

its also 21 usd an hour :P

[paper haven]

Punished Farsight.

[versed ledge]

Venom Farsight

[paper haven]

He did break away from the main Tau empire, right? The comparison tracks.

[versed ledge]

Yup

[outer wave]

Yeah Farsight broke off from the Empire and is I think considered rogue

[crystal forum]

he pretty cool

[fallen plaza]

I liked his older model

[crystal forum]

though of course still in the neglected lore shadow realm

[tough haven]

The only section of tau society I appreciate

[tough haven]

Damn, this and severan dominate, GW just doesn’t do rebel factions huh?

[crystal forum]

they really do not care about things that aren't imperium or main faction xenos related

it's pretty sad

[tough haven]

I’d like metal gear more if it’s more wasn’t so schizophrenic and hard to follow

[fallen plaza]

Damn really? Sad.

[tough haven]

And xenos is barely even on the ticket

[green loom]

Idk farsight has a recent model and books

[tough haven]

It’s imperium first, chaos second, xenos third

[tough haven]

True, it’s more than most get, but we don’t get any development or anything really about the enclave recently

[crystal forum]

which book?

i know about the model but i didn't hear about the book

[tough haven]

Like what are they even doing now?

[tough haven]

Farsight has like 5 books lol

[crystal forum]

which one is the most recent

[tough haven]

Uhhh, I wanna say fire and ice?

[crystal forum]

also model wise tau lack main character units so of course GW would give players farsight

[green loom]

Farsight, Crisis of Faith, Empire of Lies and then his Arks of Omen book

[tough haven]

Shas’o is about him too