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#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
celest dome
Is this about the 2 Vrak weapon we have in DT ?
barren prawn
yes
storm jungle
I assume its another dumb meta thing
celest dome
barren prawn
yup
storm jungle
barren prawn
I NEED TO KNOW whats happening there
celest dome
Basically a Warehouse world
celest dome
Before and after the War
barren prawn
🙏 thank you
storm jungle
Perish fool 
raven stone
Noise marines be like
crystal forum
vraks is an armoury planet therefore it just stores stuff for millenia
barren prawn
you just saved me a weeks worth of reading
crystal forum
honestly makes little sense why anything is vraks pattern
probably just a cheeky reference
since the planet itself is completely barren by now
storm jungle
honestly makes little sense why anything is vraks pattern
Vraks is a system, its not just 1 planet.
crystal forum
i actually just looked that up dilara
crystal forum
the system has no other havitable planets
so it's not a case of it being named after another vraks planet
storm jungle
Considering GW okayed the naming we shall never know.
So you're still wrong little nerd
🫵
celest dome
The Vrak we know is also an Industrial world iirc
storm jungle
It was a barren volcanic world
crystal forum
i looked for information about that too
vraks does not seem to have any industry of its own
storm jungle
the only habitable location is the fortress perimeter
crystal forum
it surely must have had something for the work population to do
storm jungle
Yeah, slave away
crystal forum
probably just maintaining the endless bunkers
why you'd need ogryns for that who knows
storm jungle
im sure they got them to do something
crystal forum
the concept of an armoury world is pretty cool
my shitty custom regiment is from one
definitely just a type of planet the author just created because it's a convenient excuse for why vraks had a shit ton of equipment out of nowhere
storm jungle
considering it has only ever appeared in the Vraks book that is correct
crystal forum
it's like a more boring fortress world
storm jungle
Not really.
also there is a reason for why it has a shit ton of equipment considering its a supply world for other worlds in the scarus sector
since well, Eye of Terror
a fortress world's main purpose is to act as a lynchpin for nearby threats
crystal forum
and also to store a shit ton of equipment to supply a whole system
that's what cadia did
crystal forum
with usarkar's fucking endless basement of tanks
arctic talon
Imperial salvage options to get those tanks confirmed
crystal forum
thanks usarkar for only providing crucial equipment at the last minute to give yourself glory
outer wave
So recently Ive learned that in AoS, half ogres and half elves can exist
Do the half ogres carry a similar hunger curse as their ogre parent?
Will Slaanesh (if they got out of their prison) hunt for half elf souls?
arctic talon
Slaanesh isn't picky about souls in AoS
outer wave
Oh they dont have the elf souls thing going on?
outer wave
Huh
arctic talon
They puked up a bunch of Elf souls but thats like
from all the souls they feasted on during End Times
raven stone
I was just pouring over Necromunda rules to see if I can get away with some conversion stuff, and I noticed.
Technically speaking
arctic talon
I can't really answer your question about Ogres though
I'm not familiar with this lore
raven stone
It is possible to use the Palanite Enforcers as having 4+ save
raven stone
Because they stack Flak and Armoured Undersuit…
outer wave
hell I didn't even fucking know half elves exist in AoS
I just heard they're mentioned in two separate books
opaque coyote
They puked up a bunch of Elf souls but thats like
I remember a piece of fanart about Slaanesh
They basically drank a shake
Vomitted cause they drank too much
then drank it again
And tbh, that's basically Slaanesh in a nutshell
arctic talon
LOL
opaque coyote
Too bad I am unfamiliar with Warhammer Fantasy
arctic talon
same god pretty much
just doesn't have the connection to eldar/elfs
Slaanesh was just late to the party in WHFB
rocky gale
Oh they dont have the elf souls thing going on?
Slaanesh basically ate all the Elf souls during the Endtimes, then in AoS the new Elven Gods, Tyrion, Teclis, Morathi and Malerion (Malekith) created a machine to contain Slaanesh and suck the souls out
outer wave
Oh so Slaanesh is just kinda done with the elf souls thing now, especially since shes locked up and shit
arctic talon
Only official art we've ever gotten of an "entire" chaos god as far as I know
rocky gale
They then split the souls between them and used them to create their own ideal versions of elves
Yea Slaanesh is still pretty much chained up, but the chains were weakened recently when Morathi performed a ritual to draw more power from it to fuel her own ascension to becoming Morathi Khaine
crystal forum
Only official art we've ever gotten of an "entire" chaos god as far as I know
oh sweet, horrors beyond my comprehension
arctic talon
Yea Slaanesh is still pretty much chained up, but the chains were weakened recen...
Moraith ruins everything, part 2 Age of Sigmar edition
opaque coyote
Oh so Slaanesh is just kinda done with the elf souls thing now, especially since...
So as a question, are the warhammer fantasy chaos gods and 40k chaos gods the same
To be specific, are they just like
Different aspects of each other?
Extra-universal?
opaque coyote
Or are they just same but different
crystal forum
lore wise there is no direct connection between the two IP's
arctic talon
They're essentially the same gods
We know all Daemons except for the Slaaneshi "twins" are in both settings
opaque coyote
lore wise there is no direct connection between the two IP's
Ah, so basically, they're just a universal constant for some reason
arctic talon
yeah
outer wave
So as a question, are the warhammer fantasy chaos gods and 40k chaos gods the sa...
They're basically the same, though there might be slightly differing factors with them (like Nurgle in 40k isnt against raising the dead for poxwalkers while Nurgle in fantasy is highly against undeath)
crystal forum
there's some references to multidimension stuff in rare places but thankfully 40k isn't marvelized yet
outer wave
But otherwise yes the same
arctic talon
Vashtor also is probably in AoS
Its usually jokey stuff tbf
regarding WHFB and 40k being connected
stuff like the Skaven telephone hearing "weird elves"
celest dome
The multiverse references were mostly about the Great game
arctic talon
yeah that also
storm jungle
Only official art we've ever gotten of an "entire" chaos god as far as I know
There is one of khorne
crystal forum
i dont think there is ever a direct reference to fantasy in 40k
storm jungle
hold on
storm jungle
i dont think there is ever a direct reference to fantasy in 40k
There has been quite a few
but they got dropped later
crystal forum
like what
storm jungle
because its dumb
arctic talon
bro runs the forge of souls
storm jungle
and mentions of 40k in loose wording
crystal forum
the fuck
arctic talon
is a Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
crystal forum
and mentions of 40k in loose wording
wait is that in fantasy?
arctic talon
who has "one thousand sons"
crystal forum
what about stuff in 40k referencing fantasy
arctic talon
I don't remember anything going from 40k to other settings
maybe if you count the fucking like
crystal forum
then again literally everything in 40k is a reference to fantasy 
green loom
I like the funny detail in TWW3 in the chaos realms where you can see the gods in the sky
storm jungle
then again literally everything in 40k is a reference to fantasy <:B_DogCheemsSm...
Including us
arctic talon
but that might just be a stormcast???
opaque coyote
They're basically the same, though there might be slightly differing factors wit...
So it's kind of like Darkseid in the DC universe.
Essentially every Darkseid in every alternative universe is actually from the same Darkseid. Just in a different body/part since the actual Darkseid is simply too big.
outer wave
You think his kaka and ballsa are huge?
crystal forum
Including us
jojo reference?
arctic talon
This goes fucking hard lol
celest dome
I don't remember anything going from 40k to other settings
Blood Bowl iirc, a Tyranid participate in a match
outer wave
So it's kind of like Darkseid in the DC universe.
Essentially every Darkseid in...
More or less
arctic talon
I love bloodbowl so much
crystal forum
is he being defiant or praising khorne
storm jungle
Football tyranids but they replace the ball with a spore mine
storm jungle
is he being defiant or praising khorne
praising
arctic talon
praising khorne
storm jungle
about to give him a sloppy blo-
arctic talon
its one of the blade of khorne dudes
opaque coyote
More or less
Which would mean that the Chaos Gods are equivalent to a universal constant like gravity or dark matter.
Great, I love horrors beyond my comprehension!
crystal forum
so we know what happens when a mortal meets slaanesh right
what about the other gods
storm jungle
Which would mean that the Chaos Gods are equivalent to a universal constant like...
They really arent
arctic talon
they fall in love/become enthralled instantly
storm jungle
they are parasites created by sentient beings
celest dome
arctic talon
but I don't think its mentioned beyond that
storm jungle
they got personalities and childish qualities
crystal forum
they fall in love/become enthralled instantly
so just like slaanesh?
outer wave
Which would mean that the Chaos Gods are equivalent to a universal constant like...
Imagine just murdering one of those gods and watching the others react
crystal forum
what if kaldor draigo meets slaanesh
outer wave
For a moment I thought you said he murdered Eisenhorn the chaos god
storm jungle
no
storm jungle
~~For a moment I thought you said he murdered Eisenhorn the chaos god~~
I mean
knowing Abnett....
celest dome
Plot armour would still likely let him escape
green loom
Chaos Gods and Ctan are roughly the same deal but Immaterium/materium
arctic talon
so just like slaanesh?
this is just for Slaanesh, we don't know wtf happens for the other 3
I'd assume nurgle you'd just uh
celest dome
Full C'tan
arctic talon
idfk
celest dome
?
green loom
Ye
arctic talon
Khorne its likely you just get killed
celest dome
Nor sure tbh
opaque coyote
they got personalities and childish qualities
So does that mean that the Chaos Gods are essentially just 4 people playing a eternally running RTS.
crystal forum
this is just for Slaanesh, we don't know wtf happens for the other 3
why doesnt kaldor draigo do the slaanesh trials
storm jungle
So does that mean that the Chaos Gods are essentially just 4 people playing a et...
yes
The Great Game is the name
celest dome
I'd still put Chaos God a rank higher than C'tan
arctic talon
why doesnt kaldor draigo do the slaanesh trials
because he would need to stop trying to trash the palace first lol
storm jungle
why doesnt kaldor draigo do the slaanesh trials
he'd get corrupted
green loom
So does that mean that the Chaos Gods are essentially just 4 people playing a et...
It's like the emotions in inside out go on a psychotic streak and start an eternal war
storm jungle
Not even that
arctic talon
I'm not being literal
arctic talon
LOL
opaque coyote
I guess Tzeentch is the unofficial admin.
Since he tries to keep it perpetual while also playing the game
arctic talon
I forgot about that
green loom
I guess Tzeentch is the unofficial admin.
Since he tries to keep it perpetual ...
They all keep it perpetual
Basically
arctic talon
^
outer wave
dont forget him crashing a floating city of wizards for not fighting fair
Didnt he throw a fist down on that?
green loom
One gains an advantage, the others team up on them
celest dome
I guess Tzeentch is the unofficial admin.
Since he tries to keep it perpetual ...
None is really trying to keep it perpetual, but they all want to prevent another one to win
crystal forum
gods are GW executives
crystal forum
did he win
celest dome
Got lost iirc
outer wave
Well, his name would become Arbaal the Defeated
storm jungle
did he win
no
spring cairn
as soon as he gets there
opaque coyote
its too fun
"Slaanesh you fuckhead, stop making rock and roll soldiers. It's taking too long for you to paint them."
"No. I want MY ROCK AND ROLL SOLDIERS. AND I WILL GET THEM."
crystal forum
i dont think khorne can even fight
storm jungle
Hes disabled in the lore
arctic talon
Khorne can swing a sword
storm jungle
rides on a skull wheelchair
outer wave
He uses his defunct legs and beats you with them
crystal forum
would kratos thrive in 40k
outer wave
You think Khorne has a funny sense of humor when it comes to him sitting down? Do you think he sits upside down on his throne to throw off his followers for the lolz?
celest dome
Wasn't there something in fantasy about Khorne having killed his brother or something
outer wave
Wasn't there something in fantasy about Khorne having killed his brother or some...
He had another brother?
opaque coyote
I don't think we've seen khorne not sitting before
Khorne when Tzeentch makes an actually successful move:
crystal forum
what if we assembled kratos, master chief, doom slayer and V2 then sent them into the warp
crystal forum
doom slayer would kill khorne
spring cairn
the rest would be spectating the slayer and kratos tbh
opaque coyote
what if we assembled kratos, master chief, doom slayer and V2 then sent them int...
V1 and V2 would fall to Khorne
Master Chief and Kratos would escape
Doomslayer would make his way to murder the 4
celest dome
The gods Krator has killed are more like the Eldar ones no ?
storm jungle
The gods Krator has killed are more like the Eldar ones no ?
idk how we qualify greek/norse gods
arctic talon
storm jungle
Doomguy's armor also absorbs the souls of the things it kills
spring cairn
he'd get splattered sorry
crystal forum
wait i meant V1
sacred ginkgo
Why V2
arctic talon
spring cairn
v1 too
sacred ginkgo
Yeah v2 looses to v1 pretty handily
crystal forum
i meant V1
arctic talon
V2 is made for not slaughtering people
outer wave
Doomguy's armor also absorbs the souls of the things it kills
Would it not get corrupted if it absorbs daemon souls?
arctic talon
lol
storm jungle
Would it not get corrupted if it absorbs daemon souls?
He has killed satan and walked out fine
opaque coyote
Actually
Would V1 fall to Khorne or Slaanesh?
Since the need for blood would fall into Khorne.
But things like style points and killing as stylishly as possible falls into Slaanesh.
storm jungle
i think he will be okay
crystal forum
who would kill tzeentch
storm jungle
💀
spring cairn
V1 would still get fucked up
outer wave
He has killed satan and walked out fine
Okay fair enough
storm jungle
also the literal Icon of Sin
crystal forum
which character is powerful enough to defeat a god of tricks
arctic talon
outer wave
Icon of Sin being his son
opaque coyote
daemons don't bleed
Disappointed that Khorne's Daemons don't bleed
arctic talon
I hate powerscaling
arctic talon
Disappointed that Khorne's Daemons don't bleed
I mean they "bleed"
but its not blood
outer wave
Damn thats actually kinda cool
storm jungle
That's lame
You think the blood God's Daemons would spill blood
I mean they do
its just not natural
opaque coyote
Oh
opaque coyote
And you can turn it into booze
That explains that joke in TTS
I finally fucking get it now
arctic talon
its not just Daemon blood lol
Abbadon was trying to make a plasma subsitute iirc
he ended up making some really strong booze
outer wave
Why did he taste it?
storm jungle
Abadddon was basically doing a skyrim run in the Warp
opaque coyote
he ended up making some really strong booze
That's literally just Abaddon in a nutshell tbh
storm jungle
making alcohol?
opaque coyote
Tries to do one thing
Accidentally does another.
Tries to take over Cadia naturally.
Ends up throwing a defunct Blackstone Fortress towards it
arctic talon
Why did he taste it?
He was bored and it failed to produce the plasma
storm jungle
Tries to do one thing
Accidentally does another.
Tries to take over Cadia nat...
He doesnt really accidentally do anything
idk where people get this from
arctic talon
So he decided to turn it all into booze
outer wave
He was bored and it failed to produce the plasma
I too just drink whatever's around me when Im bored
arctic talon
He offers it to some visitors
opaque coyote
He doesnt really accidentally do anything
Yeah that's the wrong phrasing for it
opaque coyote
Apologies
celest dome
No DG that liked it ?
opaque coyote
More like
He still succeeds just... It's sometimes not in the way he intended
arctic talon
The Emperors children didn't even touch it
opaque coyote
The Emperors children didn't even touch it
Oh wow must either be really strong or really shitty
arctic talon
No DG that liked it ?
I don't think there was a DG member present
arctic talon
Oh wow must either be really strong or really shitty
considering it made a Exalted Sorcerer choke and almost puke
outer wave
Actually could be a cool plot device for corrupting a hive city
arctic talon
pretty fucking strong shit lol
opaque coyote
pretty fucking strong shit lol
Leman Russ actually went into the warp for Daemon Booze
He tried all the alcohol in the Materium
Now time for the Warp
arctic talon
Jokes aside the Daemon booze abbadon concocted sounds horrifying to drink
it also contains the tears of virgins and blood of children
according to him lol
arctic talon
most likely
but its never made clear if he's joking on that
we do know it does actually contain harvested adrenaline
though iirc the source of said adrenaline is never given lol
opaque coyote
Jokes aside the Daemon booze abbadon concocted sounds horrifying to drink
I mean considering you're drinking parts of the combined souls of several people
...yeah it probably is horrific
opaque coyote
it also contains the tears of virgins and blood of children
This is why I enjoy chaos.
They are so unapologetically evil at times
Same with the Deldar
arctic talon
I'd assume it would corrupt anyone it didn't kill
opaque coyote
Cuz drinking daemonic essence cant be good for you
It would probably just fucking kill you considering the EC refuse to drink it
arctic talon
anything a marine finds "strong" as a drink cannot be healthy for a normal person
opaque coyote
The fucking EC
arctic talon
his pallet is too sophsiticated for Abbadons evil space moonshine
celest dome
according to him lol
When those wine snob speak of acorn notes 
opaque coyote
How violently it would kill you is up in the air tho
outer wave
It would probably just fucking kill you considering the EC refuse to drink it
I consider that decision based on the fact they're dealing with a Khornate drink
opaque coyote
I consider that decision based on the fact they're dealing with a Khornate drink
"ugh blood? I prefer piss instead."
-ec marine
outer wave
Basically
opaque coyote
arctic talon
"Another few noteworthy ingredients would be the corpses of several psykers and Neverborn, left to slow-dissolve in cooled plasma cradles. I then siphoned the remaining slime through hexagrammically warded purifiers."
💀
outer wave
"Ew, iz dis Le Sanguine? I prefer, Le Pisse instead."
arctic talon
yeah this is not fit for human consumption lmao
storm jungle
"Another few noteworthy ingredients would be the corpses of several psykers and ...
Me turning Jay and Eternal into a drink be like
arctic talon
💀
outer wave
But it'd be cool if he tried to cater to human consumption for corrupting purposes
opaque coyote
Tbh I had the idea of making a Slaanesh OC that's essentially a fashion designer.
Essentially how she fell is that she was just tired of making either "classical" or "Gothic" and wanted to try out some actual fashion.
So she decided to turn to Slaanesh.
outer wave
doing that would be very intresting
They just hire up a bunch of Iron Warriors or Word Bearers to summon daemons so they can take their ectoplasm and mix it into cocktails
Sell that
opaque coyote
Now she makes beautiful clothes out of the finest Human and Xenos fluids and skin
outer wave
Get rich
arctic talon
Tbh I had the idea of making a Slaanesh OC that's essentially a fashion designer...
sounds fun
outer wave
Tbh I had the idea of making a Slaanesh OC that's essentially a fashion designer...
I had an idea for an EC OC thats basically a colosseum owner and announcer, who has an exposed vocal chords so he can jam electrical wires into it to connect to the speaker system
opaque coyote
Seriously though, the only option for Imperium fashion is either
Looking like you're from the 1800s or 1940's with extra skulls attached there is no inbetween
outer wave
Mood
arctic talon
Tbh
we do see less stereotypical imperial worlds rarely
realistically any modern or historical fashion design can prolly be in 40k for the imperium
opaque coyote
realistically any modern or historical fashion design can prolly be in 40k for t...
True.
But let's be fair here.
When have you ever seen someone in 40k wear just a tshirt and jeans
Or a normal looking dress
arctic talon
Uh
outer wave
Probably in the guard
arctic talon
normal looking dress I feel like I've read before
tshirt and jeans no lol
Jeans/jean like pants on their own yes
celest dome
Necromunda does have tshirt and jeans iirc on some minis
outer wave
Out of, what, people or like metal?
outer wave
Nice
arctic talon
Necromunda does have tshirt and jeans iirc on some minis
Orlock or esther I'd assume?
opaque coyote
Nice
They constantly face Khornate incursions for reasons completely unknown to them
celest dome
Normal dress ?
outer wave
They constantly face Khornate incursions for reasons completely unknown to them
I kinda wanted a try at making a Tyranid/Ogryn hybrid thing that originally were basically GSC-infected ogryns but because these ogryns were already MASSIVE eaters, the tyranid cells have adapted that they dont really need to be connected to the hive mind anymore and have entered a mutualistic symbiosis with the ogryn in return for nutrients.
opaque coyote
Normal dress ?
Sort of?
I mean the buttons are skull shaped, there are seals on it that are also
Skull shaped.
celest dome
And jeans and those midrift tshrt
storm jungle
Normal dress ?
GYATT
opaque coyote
We got someone wearing actual clothes in the 41st millennium no way
raven stone
A strength of 40k setting is any fashion at any time could have shown up
It’s just writers only know gothic/Western things best
raven stone
So they stick with it
opaque coyote
I kinda wanted a try at making a Tyranid/Ogryn hybrid thing that originally were...
"Oh wow, I didn't know they were hungry like that. Huh."
-Hive Mind
raven stone
Interestingly, this means somewhere in the 40k verse, Kimonos are still a thing.
storm jungle
It is
arctic talon
GW really made every new Assassin sculpt have a nice ass
storm jungle
we got one in Necromunda
opaque coyote
Interestingly, this means *somewhere* in the 40k verse, Kimonos are still a thin...
Here's an idea.
Ork Samurai
storm jungle
also for eldar fashion
celest dome
GW really made every new Assassin sculpt have a nice ass
Deservedly 
outer wave
"Oh wow, I didn't know they were hungry like that. Huh."
-Hive Mind
"Oh shit, you guys are cool. Here, have a spore launcher as a third arm."
raven stone
Fair, Eldar and Tau are like two different bits of Asian influence
celest dome
Water Guild in Necromunda also
raven stone
this mini is so nice
I mean, if you have it and run it, you are constantly flexing the statue as well lol
Oh yes, the Water Guild
celest dome
storm jungle
Me when i ask a westerner for a kimono and he gives me a trash robe
arctic talon
isn't that guy the one who literally sucks the moisture out of people
arctic talon
Me when i ask a westerner for a kimono and he gives me a trash robe
tbf, its necromunda, the bounty hunters aren't exactly fashion stars lol
outer wave
isn't that guy the one who literally sucks the moisture out of people
The man responsible for my chapped lips
storm jungle
tbf, its necromunda, the bounty hunters aren't exactly fashion stars lol
well some are
celest dome
opaque coyote
"WILE YOUZ BE BULLYING GROTZ, I PRACTICED THE CHOPPA."
"WILE YOUZ BE PUNCHING BOYZ FOR TEETH, I PRACTICED DA SHOOTA"
"WILE YOUZ BEEN DRINKING SQUIG GROG. I'Z BEEN REFOINING TECHNIQUES TIL I CAN WIPE OUT SPORES."
"AND NOW YOU'Z WANT ME TO SAVE YA FROM THE LARGE BLUE MEN?
ZOGGIN SILLY AIN'T IT"
- Samurai Sporechoppa
arctic talon
well some are
this is true
opaque coyote
Damn they actually look kinda cool
outer wave
"WILE YOUZ BE BULLYING GROTZ, I PRACTICED THE CHOPPA."
"WILE YOUZ BE PUNCHING B...
An ork with a western accent, a squig cowboy hat, and a samurai choppa would be so dope
celest dome
I'd let her do what ever she want, death is but a natural step in life
arctic talon
LOL
storm jungle
arctic talon
I'm suprprised the administratum doesn't have a grimdark version of the Imperial China Examination System
storm jungle
I mean im sure they do
arctic talon
yeah
storm jungle
opaque coyote
I'd let her do what ever she want, death is but a natural step in life
-Inquisitor Drago when he saw a Genestealer Hybrid
opaque coyote
I'm suprprised the administratum doesn't have a grimdark version of the Imperial...
I mean tbh there is a reason why Asian Court dramas are popular.
That's because dynasties were just insane in general
storm jungle
i thought it was because they get twinks for said shows
arctic talon
I mean
opaque coyote
I mean China is still relatively insane.
I think the Taiping Rebellion was lead by a guy who thought he was Jesus Christ's brother
celest dome
Then Lady Credo and Pre-Spyrer Harea (||also her sister||), that Enforcer woman, Vunder is nice too
The Dome runner..
arctic talon
he thought he was Jesus Christ's brother and he died from dysentery
storm jungle
I mean China is still relatively insane.
I think the Taiping Rebellion was lead...
I love when people call some shit in 40k grimderp when we get shit like this lmao
arctic talon
after in the middle of a siege
storm jungle
"how could one man starve millions?"
storm jungle
Then Lady Credo and Pre-Spyrer Harea (||also her sister||), that Enforcer woman...
Love necromunda lore actually developing stuff
currently the planet is ruled by a metal dude
love democracy
LOVE MUNDA
LOVE MUNDACRACY
outer wave
banned sex
"Sex is gross, dont have it."
- This guy
arctic talon
but the main spire isn't the one with democracy
opaque coyote
I love when people call some shit in 40k grimderp when we get shit like this lma...
I think a quote I remember is that
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to make sense"
arctic talon
storm jungle
but the main spire isn't the one with democracy
that robot guy is a good ruler
fuck you
what was his name oh
Ozmosiz Jones?
Ozmosium?
Ozmodicus
Uhhh
arctic talon
I think its also hilarious that at first the Christian missionaries supported the Taiping rebellion
raven stone
I mean China is still relatively insane.
I think the Taiping Rebellion was lead...
And somehow he thinks they have mystical ability to block bullets…
arctic talon
and then the Taiping rebellion started burning down churches
and killing missionaries
Certified religous extremism moment
opaque coyote
And somehow he thinks they have mystical ability to block bullets…
Honestly I can imagine a Chaos Rebellion started by a Psyker who can actually do thst
Like it's a Feudal world and an untrained Psyker proclaims himself to be the Emperor's son
opaque coyote
RIP Senseis btw
raven stone
Pulled his shit off lol
arctic talon
There's multiple people in 40k lore who've done that
lol
There's also that one exerpt from the 9e daemon codex
with the uh nurgle preacher
the one with vaccinations
opaque coyote
It is pretty much how Goge Vandire
Oh yeah
God damn why does his name sound so evil.
He might as well have been named
"Killgore Babymurder"
storm jungle
GOD
raven stone
Oh, the one that semi-predicted anti vaxxers…
storm jungle
I love some of the writers making fun of covid morons in last year's material
its so fucking funny
lmfao
opaque coyote
I love some of the writers making fun of covid morons in last year's material
I remember Matt Ward actually made fun of PETA
raven stone
That was written BEFORE COVID
arctic talon
Oh yeah
God damn why does his name sound so evil.
He might as well have been n...
Goreterrox Soulreaper
raven stone
Which makes it even “better”
arctic talon
Is my favorite Chaos name in 40k
outer wave
You think he called himself Goreterrox after he converted to chaos or were his parents just
Not great at names?
opaque coyote
outer wave
From the ancient days of the 90's....
arctic talon
You think he called himself Goreterrox after he converted to chaos or were his p...
Def after
raven stone
Let me see if I can find the Nurgle one…it is massive though…
tough haven
tough haven
Tech priests be like:
opaque coyote
Goreterrox Soulreaper
Honestly one of my ideas was to name a Sister of Battle
"Velma Shaggan"
I thought it was stupid but now it doesn't sound that bad
celest dome
Harry the Hammer (Harald Hammerstorm) still is the best Hammer dude
opaque coyote
Tech priests be like:
I think my favorite part about the Mechanicus video game is how the Tech Priests basically sound like machinery humming
While the Necrons, funnily enough, actually talk
It's weirdly funny to see the fucking soulless skeleton robots actually act more human than the tech priests
raven stone
**EMIL. DARKHAMMER**
You know, I still think GW is missing a silly name opportunity by not naming any Demon Hammer “the Hammer of Banishment”…
Explaining the joke: ||Ban Hammer||
tough haven
I think my favorite part about the Mechanicus video game is how the Tech Priests...
I love their lingua technis
theyve communicated entire debates in seconds with those few beeps and boops
tough haven
While the Necrons, funnily enough, actually talk
well, 90% of the necrons do nothing but stare blindly ahead and kill with a cold emptiness and a distant longing for what once was
opaque coyote
theyve communicated entire debates in seconds with those few beeps and boops
You ever think they just have a fucking discord chat open.
Like how they actually talk is just
This
Just imagine a tech priest walking around only to audibly hear a Discord ping
storm jungle
we do know techpriests at least have discord with the Noosphere
tough haven
You ever think they just have a fucking discord chat open.
Like how they actual...
Nope thats how they speak to one another
or direct data inload
usually its silent though through the noosphere
for mundane conversation
for blessings, prayers, and other holy uses they speak blessed binharic
tough haven
...
So Tech Priests are Discord Mods
crystal forum
they speak in binary to eachother which is peak cringe
wanna see that phrase in binary?
01110100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110011 01110000 01100101 01100001 01101011 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100101 01100001 01100011 01101000 01101111 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110111 01101000 01101001 01100011 01101000 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110000 01100101 01100001 01101011 00100000 01100011 01110010 01101001 01101110 01100111 01100101
totally useful format
storm jungle
01110100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110011 01110000 01100101 01100001...
01001001 01101101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101110 01101110 01100001 00100000 01110011 01101000 01101111 01110110 01100101 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01100110 01101111 01101111 01110100 00100000 01110101 01110000 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01000001 01010011 01010011
crystal forum
74 68 65 79 20 73 70 65 61 6B 20 69 6E 20 62 69 6E 61 72 79 20 74 6F 20 65 61 63 68 6F 74 68 65 72 20 77 68 69 63 68 20 69 73 20 70 65 61 6B 20 63 72 69 6E 67 65
the same text in hexa
arctic talon
You ever think they just have a fucking discord chat open.
Like how they actual...
The Noosphere is like discord + the internet
Aka hell
crystal forum
scammers replaced with dark mechanicum
arctic talon
Instead of being scammed you get your brain fried with horrific images
crystal forum
sounds like a couple of servers im in
storm jungle
lore accurate
median star
https://tenor.com/view/necrons-gauss-gaussflayer-warhammer-40k-necron-gif-112932...
This probably feels so good
storm jungle
bro you are getting atomized
median star
Thats the goal
storm jungle
opaque coyote
scammers replaced with dark mechanicum
Honestly, I am thinking about writing like
"What if 40k had a galaxy wide TV network"
type of thing
crystal forum
instant communication between all of humanity would no joke help the imperium more than roboute's return
tough haven
scammers replaced with dark mechanicum
"Free STC databases at this link right here!!! You have been selected by the omnissiah to recieve this wonderous gift!!! but you have to click right now!!!!"
crystal forum
now you know exactly where nids, orks, tau and all the other fuckers are attacking
opaque coyote
instant communication between all of humanity would no joke help the imperium mo...
Yup, but it would fit 40k if they did have that
But it was just filled with useless BS, propaganda, and entertainment
And nobody uses it properly
opaque coyote
And thousands of years of memes, junk, etc. makes it so that contacting actual useful information and such is hard
tough haven
"Free STC databases at this link right here!!! You have been selected by the omn...
"Greetings Tech-Brother, I have recently detected a Heretek slandering your good name by posing as you on the Noosphere, click here to report them to the Fabricator General of Mars"
opaque coyote
Basically, similar to the Library of Babel.
crystal forum
And thousands of years of memes, junk, etc. makes it so that contacting actual u...
oh you mean just eletromagnetic wave communication using real life means? yeah that would suck ass
opaque coyote
There might be a way to communicate to a planet. But then you go into another meme page or something
arctic talon
you get sent to a propaganda page for a crusade that got lost
tough haven
There might be a way to communicate to a planet. But then you go into another me...
Astropath calls out for help from the oncoming necron invasion
crystal forum
actually
tough haven
gets a 3,000 year old shitpost
crystal forum
holy shit that made me realize
opaque coyote
oh you mean just eletromagnetic wave communication using real life means? yeah t...
Honestly, I just want to write funny 40k related skits. If only because
Twitter is already bad
imagine Twitter in 40k\
crystal forum
all humanity has to do to know what happened during the dark ages is listen to whatever communications going through space far enough to be from that time
opaque coyote
all humanity has to do to know what happened during the dark ages is listen to w...
I mean the Warp can potentially send you forwards or backwards in time
crystal forum
it would be harder to tell earth's communications apart from background noise the farther away you are but it's still doable
arctic talon
imagine Twitter in 40k\
average conversation
KILL YOURSELF
opaque coyote
There is an entire Ordos that fucks with time, and no one knows where they went. But somehow they keep appearing only to disappear so they must be doing something
storm jungle
They actually disappeared once
for like years IRL
they only returned with the opening of the Great Rift
crystal forum
I mean the Warp can potentially send you forwards or backwards in time
no i mean just go 20000 light years from earth and you're suddenly receiving radio transmissions from the dark age of humanity
opaque coyote
They actually disappeared once
Bro, working in the Ordos Chronos must be crazy
opaque coyote
no i mean just go 20000 light years from earth and you're suddenly receiving rad...
Yeah IK, but radio transmissions usually decay into nothing after like 2 light years
so they probably still used Astropaths or something smilar
crystal forum
the galaxy is around 100000 light years so you'd be able to receive the entirety of earth history within its confines
opaque coyote
Imagine getting a help message, only to go and find a DAoT ship
crystal forum
Yeah IK, but radio transmissions usually decay into nothing after like 2 light y...
not in space
i think
opaque coyote
the galaxy is around 100000 light years so you'd be able to receive the entirety...
oh yeah time dialation
Man imagine being the Tau and seeing Terra using a telescope
And finding it as a pristine planet
Still green
with blue oceans
crystal forum
and again background noise would fuck over the signals quite a bit but not only earth was part of dark ages
opaque coyote
They showed a picture to an imperium diplomat and they're like
"Wtf is that? That's not Terra. Where's the smog?"
"Why does it have water?"
crystal forum
would be the reverse of what humanity did when they found tau for the first time
"man these primates fucking SUCK"
opaque coyote
would be the reverse of what humanity did when they found tau for the first time
I think a fanmade audio log actually had the Tau get their tech boost from a crashed Mechanicus ship
Like the warp storms had it so that a ship got fucking wrecked and crashed into the Tau planet
opaque coyote
Yeah exactly. It served more as inspiration if anything
Like "Hey, we can do this!"
Knowing that something is actually possible actually makes it
possible
A lot of inventions are just accidentally finding out
"Holy shit, you can do this?"
opaque coyote
not even the mechanicus learns from its own shit
Tbf, I don't think the Mechanicus are stupid.
opaque coyote
They maybe overtly religious, paranoid, and archaic. But not completely stupid.
Emphasis on completely
crystal forum
they literally pray when they replace a fucking screw
they're the epitome of stupid
storm jungle
this isnt even a joke yeah
or pray for like an actual 10 minutes before firing a cannon
this is also real
opaque coyote
Here's the thing, nobody fully knows how to build a nuclear reactor. People only know specific parts of a nuclear reactor, and you need multiple people to know how to build it.
Now then imagine that but now all the people are gone
All you have is the nuclear reactor
You don't know how to build it, the full inner workings
And that's... basically what happened for a lot of DAoT tech
crystal forum
mechanicus doesn't even try to learn
the ones who do are the weird ones
they just think if it works just keep doing it
storm jungle
You don't know how to build it, the full inner workings
I mean you can attempt reverse-engineering
Admech just doesnt
crystal forum
read up cargo cults
storm jungle
because they are religious backwards zealots
storm jungle
read up cargo cults
^
opaque coyote
I mean you can attempt reverse-engineering
Ah yes, take it apart. Now since you've taken it apart, you know how to put it together right?
Right?
RIGHT?
storm jungle
Ah yes, take it apart. Now since you've taken it apart, you know how to put it t...
...thats
crystal forum
back in WW2 the US used to drop supplies on remote islands which had native populations
opaque coyote
literally what reverse engineering is
Yup, but it takes multiple ways of taking it apart. And for some of tech, they only have one of it
crystal forum
the natives came to associate the infrastructure of planes like runaways with the act of receiving supplies
storm jungle
Yup, but it takes multiple ways of taking it apart. And for some of tech, they o...
Yeah but its still something. Admech are just stupid.
crystal forum
so they started building their own shitty wooden airfields out of sticks and shit
when the US stopped dropping supplies they kept doing it
because it was associated with working in the first place
the mechanicus is just dumb as hell and uses stuff that was made by far smarter people
storm jungle
^
If you actively are a sensible person in the cult mechanicus you will be instantly ousted as a heretek.
its why Cawl just shares his visions with barely anyone lol
opaque coyote
the mechanicus is just dumb as hell and uses stuff that was made by far smarter ...
True, but half of that stuff is even more complicated than an airfield.
I do admit that the Mechanicus is stupid. But there is a weird precedent for the stupidity. It doesn't help that Daemons exist, and minor tech errors can possibly lead to getting stabbed by a bone sword
storm jungle
I mean not really.
crystal forum
i genuinely dont think the mechanicus prayers work at all
storm jungle
They still turn to chaos if they remain ignorant
nothing the Imperial factions in 40k does is justified
tough haven
they're the epitome of stupid
But we love them
opaque coyote
i genuinely dont think the mechanicus prayers work at all
I think it's a mixed bag type of thing
tough haven
theyre are idiots
opaque coyote
Some of them do work, some of it doesn't, and some of them are literally just "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
tough haven
i genuinely dont think the mechanicus prayers work at all
I think they do through some latent warp fuckery
Also it makes them feel better so shush
opaque coyote
I think they do through some latent warp fuckery
I think Machine Spirits do exist. But also due to latent warp fuckery.
storm jungle
i genuinely dont think the mechanicus prayers work at all
They do its just inconsistent for the sake of keeping the idea of what is a Machine Spirit loose for the authors.
opaque coyote
Also AI
crystal forum
im sure the time wasted not actually repairing shit is made up by some tech priest's feelings
opaque coyote
Some "machine spirits" are AI, some are just weird warp phenoma, and some are just tech being weird
arctic talon
i genuinely dont think the mechanicus prayers work at all
some of them do genuinely work, a lot are just glorified instruction manuals
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
some of them are actively useless
opaque coyote
I'm pretty sure my printer is possessed by a Daemon ngl
storm jungle
its many things yeah
arctic talon
Like one of them is literally a startup guide for a fucking vehicle lol
opaque coyote
"WHY DO YOU NEED BLUE INK, I'M PRINTING BLACK AND WHITE"
crystal forum
this is what makes mechanicus great
they're like mechanics who worship their socket wrench
arctic talon
but shit like the "rite of percussive maintenance" is worthless
or something along the lines of that
there's some rite for bashing a broken latch until it works
tough haven
they're like mechanics who worship their socket wrench
So regular mechanics
opaque coyote
they're like mechanics who worship their socket wrench
So regular mechanics
oh
jink?
eh
too late for that
Yeah most coders don't know how their code works
opaque coyote
How do I say this?
arctic talon
If my code starts working randomly
after it doesn't work repeatedely
I will consider it done
opaque coyote
If my code starts working randomly
There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution
opaque coyote
Again, Mechanicus are dumb. But that dumbassery is partially reasonable, and also NOT reasonable
storm jungle
Its never reasonable.
thats the point
their dumbassery is what makes them grimdark
arctic talon
There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution
Else if, Else if, Else if, Else if
(if I catch this doing this I will skin you alive)
storm jungle
theres a reason the only difference between Darkmech and Admech is one just has more spikes and daemons lol
arctic talon
One uses slave labor more
opaque coyote
Its never reasonable.
I never said it was the good type of reasonable
opaque coyote
storm jungle
I never said it was the *good* type of reasonable
crystal forum
dark mech also are just comedically evil
arctic talon
the mechanicus is already comedically evil
lol
they literaly shoved a bunch of people into a volcano
crystal forum
you know what that's true
tough haven
They're my favorite faction
me too
crystal forum
admech embrace the stupidity of 40k
tough haven
admech embrace the stupidity of 40k
I love it though
arctic talon
The Mechanicus also are somewhat competent at some things
they're still fucking stupid though lol
the competence mixed with stupidity makes everything funnier
crystal forum
for sure an admech is like 50x more competent than most imperials
opaque coyote
They're my favorite faction
I think, in no particular order, my favorites are: The Tau, the Sisters of Battle, the admech, and Aeldari.
The Tau because their blocky mechs and their usage of actual Xenos are cool
crystal forum
no militarum 😤
arctic talon
The Mechanicus also prizing being a bunch of literal psycopaths
opaque coyote
The SoB because gun nuns
arctic talon
is great
opaque coyote
Admech because Admech
opaque coyote
and Aeldari because they're cool
arctic talon
if they see a path to a promotion
crystal forum
my favorite factions are:
militarum
imperial agents
opaque coyote
Except if their plans actually worked
storm jungle
arctic talon
Drukhari get to win a lot in books
storm jungle
ish
arctic talon
because
crystal forum
they dont even have any big plans like dark eldar in fantasy
arctic talon
like
crystal forum
they just want to be fucking evil
opaque coyote
Drukhari get to win a lot in books
yeah, unlike cartoon super villains which always fail
arctic talon
or some variation of don't die
storm jungle
they just want to be fucking evil
arctic talon
and besides even if you die
if you have a contract with a haemonculi
you'll be back on your feet in no time
(it will however be incredibly painful)
storm jungle
Me regenerating back from a single haircell because i need to get revenge on that one space marine that killed me
crystal forum
(it will however be incredibly painful)
they probably enjoy it
arctic talon
some absolutely do
opaque coyote
and besides even if you die
I think the most disturbing part is that the Deldar actually don't start out as "evil"
opaque coyote
Apparently some remember actually being disturbed about killing things
crystal forum
do some drukhari date from before the fall
crystal forum
they live forever right
arctic talon
Uhhh
storm jungle
Kinda
crystal forum
i thought it was like fantasy
storm jungle
"unnatural"
arctic talon
Eldar don't have an infinite lifespan, they die of old age
opaque coyote
they live forever right
Kind of, but only if they get enough torture
storm jungle
Yeah its just super long
storm jungle
because elves
storm jungle
to give an idea
crystal forum
so like space marines where who tf knows what their lifespan is
storm jungle
Haemonculi were literally alive during the Pre-Fall era
arctic talon
but more rude
storm jungle
and were one of the main instigators of it
crystal forum
seriously how old is dante
arctic talon
Uh
storm jungle
not that much
storm jungle
yeah that
arctic talon
but not that old
crystal forum
that's old
arctic talon
He's the longest living "active" marine
storm jungle
its not old by 40k standards
storm jungle
fucker's older than most custodes
not really
arctic talon
he's incredibly old by Marine standards
storm jungle
^
crystal forum
what is old then
storm jungle
you
arctic talon
💀
storm jungle
arctic talon
Dante started having grey hair and wrinkles
crystal forum
necron? is that your baseline?
storm jungle
Necrons are literally "yes"
arctic talon
Necrons don't count when it talks about being Old
Most Eldar aren't even from the fall period at this point
storm jungle
their perception of time is also very bad
arctic talon
its not like they haven't been having kids
storm jungle
a century at court
crystal forum
do we even know how old votaan get
arctic talon
No
storm jungle
Nope
crystal forum
cant be super old right?
storm jungle
we are literally just getting lore for them lol
storm jungle
Yeah that
arctic talon
Gav Thrope
storm jungle
they'll prob one day get Longbeards too
crystal forum
they're just shitty clones
arctic talon
will pave the golden path forward
storm jungle
they're just shitty clones
not really
they are pretty perfect
nothing shitty about it
storm jungle
so shut up umgi
arctic talon
its a thing in a lot of settings but
doesn't seem that way for properly made test tube babies in 40k
opaque coyote
its a thing in a lot of settings but
I wonder why is that a thing
Like why in fiction do clones just have
bad luck
crystal forum
was it explained why they clone in the first place
storm jungle
because not detailed enough biology
and mass production
why give long life to something that isnt fully human
etc
arctic talon
was it explained why they clone in the first place
More efficent + it lets them practice eugenics
crystal forum
damn must have been bad in the galactic core
storm jungle
like having rocky skin or weird mutations
arctic talon
the Kin are test tube babies prepared for a role
rose thorn
because not detailed enough biology
oh waht are we talking about?
storm jungle
oh waht are we talking about?
Clones on that one
arctic talon
Kin having babies
I'd assume its seen as inefficent to have kids normally
especially when the Clone Skein can pop out a fully grown person
crystal forum
the Kin are test tube babies prepared for a role
do you think it was a long term thing or they were suddenly created?
storm jungle
long term
rose thorn
Clones on that one
which clones? the bullshti plot convience one or the actual good ones?
arctic talon
long term, its heavily implied that the uh
storm jungle
which clones? the bullshti plot convience one or the actual good ones?
in general
rose thorn
oh
storm jungle
💀
arctic talon
We know the original settlers and other "useful" DNA is all used in the Clone skeins for their test tube babies
crystal forum
i know my hopes of votaan being the first real link to dark age of tech is hopeless but i cant stop wishing
arctic talon
I mean
storm jungle
Bro
storm jungle
we dont have any proper lore for them yet
green loom
Are kin edible
storm jungle
be patient HOLY FUCK
crystal forum
will it be hand waved away though
arctic talon
Are kin edible
yes
arctic talon
next question
crystal forum
dilara give me the answers
storm jungle
I DID
rose thorn
gonna be real, bile is kinda overrated
green loom
I wanna hear more about the Gellar Rampart thing they have
storm jungle
crystal forum
dilara i have 4$
arctic talon
there's a Kin that gets eaten
opaque coyote
which clones? the bullshti plot convience one or the actual good ones?
pls get out of Trazyn's wild ride mr. Fulgrim 2
arctic talon
by a like
opaque coyote
😭
arctic talon
Beastman
Clone fulgrim was falling to chaos anyways
and prolly would have been shanked by the real one
rose thorn
pls get out of Trazyn's wild ride mr. Fulgrim 2
the mroe i think about it the dumber the plot point that is lmao
opaque coyote
and prolly would have been shanked by the real one
That would've been cool tbh