40k-lore-chat

[outer wave]

There's space marine related attention in Darktide?

[queen laurel]

apparently people want them in the game

[outer wave]

I really haven't heard anything since the game released

Huh

[queen laurel]

Even though dark tide has been

very adamant about not adding them

[outer wave]

And they're based for not adding them

[gray umbra]

People want space marines in dt or want to fight plague marines

[outer wave]

Plague Marines are kinda fair

[gray umbra]

I do wanna slap some plague marine cheeks too

[celest dome]

Seen both

Also seen SM fans proposing that FS should drop DT to re-release it with a SM cast, proposing SM Scout (Due to the refusal of SM) and some other I forgot

[fallen plaza]

Theres are a special kind of mental r@tardation

[outer wave]

That had to be before release on the steam forums

[queen laurel]

the space marine brain tumor

[outer wave]

That's so adamantly stupid

[queen laurel]

Yeah you would have to escalate the conflict in tertium to beyond what our current classes can handle

Space marines are only literally present in the most hellish of war zones

[outer wave]

Also just no? Lemme be the lil guy

Space Marines are cool and all but humans aren't ever really focused outside of generic guardsmen in the background or memes

[celest dome]

One on Novermber 2022 and another at the start of the year

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/not-just-another-space-marines-on-dt-thread/55120

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/space-marines-vs-factions/91381

[outer wave]

Bruh

[shell mason]

There is a fps astartes game

[storm jungle]

No one cares about Boltgun

it died in like 1 week since its not even a good Doom-like game

I say this as a person that got every single achievement in it lol

[queen laurel]

yeah it basically locked content because after the first few chapters it's just tedious

no new enemy types no upgrades for melee and your weapons only power ups?

Yeah gets ******* boring

[outer wave]

They should go play Space Hulk instead lmao

[storm jungle]

god please no

[outer wave]

Okay but the aesthetic goes hard!

[fallen plaza]

When has that studio ever made a good game

[outer wave]

Eye Cybermancy?

Never played it but it's apparently a trip

[fallen plaza]

I bet you didnt play it and only watch the mandalore vid

Kek

[outer wave]

True!!!!

Their Necromunda game looks okay at least

The execution animation looks sooo janky though

[fallen plaza]

Ive seen mixed views on it

[outer wave]

Same

[storm jungle]

to be fair

even Mandalore has established well that the game is not great lol

its more just a drug trip you can sort of enjoy to some extent

[outer wave]

At the time, the best 40k game on the market

I really love that dev team's artists cuz they come up with some cool shit

[queen laurel]

explains a good chunk of warhammer games

[shell mason]

It wasn't boltgun Witchfinder

Jesus

Space hulk: Deathwing

It's literally darktide

[queen laurel]

that's even worse

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/russian-badger-badger-warhammer-40k-deathwing-gif-22268087

[storm jungle]

Its not darktide in any kind of way lol

aside from having a first-person POV

[shell mason]

Replace Nurgle with nids and rejects with librarians

atoma with a ship

[storm jungle]

so going by this logic

roblox is just minecraft

and half life is call of duty

[shell mason]

Never played roblox sook

soooo

yes

[storm jungle]

no

[shell mason]

also never half life either

[storm jungle]

damn no wonder your taste in games are terrible

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1143510801991348224/1165966301315997776/crumple.gif?ex=6548c5bc&is=653650bc&hm=24a78bc83033d2258b0564bebb52398cc623f08a55f18d13285e2e76367d34b9&

[shell mason]

Money matters man

[storm jungle]

Half life is like

5 bucks

[shell mason]

and your life

[queen laurel]

And he used a warhammer Russian badger clip

[shell mason]

is worth less than that

[queen laurel]

do it skin him alive

[storm jungle]

[rocky gale]

You can get like every Valve game ever made for like £1 during a sale

[shell mason]

I am a martyr

all I'm saying

[rocky gale]

You're a Morty

[shell mason]

YEAH BBY

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-puzzled-umm-uhh-speechless-gif-12582727

One of the lame ones

[shell mason]

WRONG ONE

Anyway

So a coop fps with different classes in a grimdark universe and upgrades are not similar in the slightest

Ya'll the epitome of Ego death

Anyway

Ultrakill is goated

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-gif-26495714

actually

what is a ratling?

[storm jungle]

Its a hobbit

[shell mason]

Um

whats a hobbit?

[celest dome]

Small person that isn't a child

But doesn't have a beard

[outer wave]

Shortstack

[fallen plaza]

Asian people arent real apparently

[shell mason]

Brother

[storm jungle]

how the fuck

do you not know

what a hobbit is

they are like one of the most posterboy fantasy races in fiction

[fallen plaza]

He is probably 12

[storm jungle]

to the point that warhammer has yoinked them lol

[celest dome]

In fairness what hasn't warhammer yoinked

[shell mason]

Idk

I know what they are, just don't exactly know what they are yk?

[fallen plaza]

We shall shame you regardless

[shell mason]

Idk lore just know their kinda small with hairy feet

[storm jungle]

they are hobbits who are snipers

[celest dome]

They just are Abhuman that look like Hobbits

[shell mason]

Mmmm

[storm jungle]

they also got the hobbit thing of stealing shit/being good cooks

thats kind of it

[celest dome]

Dexterous

Good shots

[shell mason]

what's is the 40k equivalent of the ratkin?

[celest dome]

Ratkin ?

Like Skaven ?

[shell mason]

Yee

[storm jungle]

None.

[celest dome]

Old lore Hrud

New lore none, closest would be some Cawdor gang who pray to the Rat Emperor

[fallen plaza]

say ratkin again and i’ll punch you in the throat

[shell mason]

Rat

[fallen plaza]

Kill yourself

[shell mason]

Kin go fuck your

[fallen plaza]

[shell mason]

self

Has anyone here play dark wood or Funger?

[fallen plaza]

Funger-ing my ass

[shell mason]

Nice

[outer wave]

I have Darkwood but never played it

Ive watched many a review for it

[shell mason]

I have it aswell

it's a pretty good game

darkest dungeon?

[outer wave]

Nope

[shell mason]

Fear and hunger?

[outer wave]

Nope

[shell mason]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R?

[outer wave]

Nope

[shell mason]

what games you got?

[outer wave]

Lemme grab the steam list

[shell mason]

Getting the whole list

[shell mason]

Honestly

Solid ass list

[outer wave]

Yeah Im pretty solid

[shell mason]

SMT 3

[outer wave]

Yep

[shell mason]

I actually have skullgirls

[outer wave]

Pretty good game, weird last patch and weirder dev situation now

[fallen plaza]

Yeah ive heard the dev story

That shit was wild

[outer wave]

Yeah its messy

[shell mason]

What is going on over there?

[fallen plaza]

Uh

[shell mason]

Pdf?

[fallen plaza]

Send him a vid or something

It’s complicated

[shell mason]

Simply yes or no?

Play me on Uno

[outer wave]

Basically, the main dev guy was outed by his team that he was a weirdo, and they turned the tables on him and now own the whole company. Turns out those guys were also trying to make him look really bad and push him out.

[shell mason]

Yeesh

Toxic work culture

[outer wave]

Yep

[shell mason]

Omori goated and aye Helltaker

Still waiting for the sequal

[outer wave]

They did a patch where they removed alot of things they thought were troublesome, from a haircomb in Filia's recovery animation to CGs showing one of the character's backstory where he's beaten by his fellow cops (who are corrupt)

Its uh, yeah

[outer wave]

Im not expecting much tbh

But if he does come out with one, thatd be goated

[fallen plaza]

I think the whole helltaker thing was a missed opportunity

As in, i felt the creator should have cashed in more

I don’t actually care about the game

I just wanna see helltaker brainrot content like digital circus

[storm jungle]

I mean he said as much himself he doesnt care.

He just wanted to make a make and did it

not everyone has to be a capitalist

[fallen plaza]

That explains a lot

[outer wave]

Yeah it seemed more like he wanted demon girls in business suits, and thats what he did

Nothing more

[storm jungle]

The only person id harass is people like the guy that made flappybird

"Omg i had to take it down from the appstore because its ruining society!"

okay dude cry me a river

GIVE ME MY MONEY

[fallen plaza]

Womp womp

[shell mason]

You had to pay for flappy bird?

[storm jungle]

Bro really thought hes in an anime

[storm jungle]

Advertising revenue

it made like... uh lemme google

Despite its unpolished appearance, Flappy Bird resonated with millions of players worldwide, becoming a cultural phenomenon virtually overnight. It earned Advertising revenue equivalent to $18 million per year on an annualized basis.

[outer wave]

Jesus

[shell mason]

Sheesh

[storm jungle]

What a wuss

[shell mason]

Bro made bank then dipped

[storm jungle]

He didnt dip so much as quit

he said hes ashamed of what the game did to its playerbase

[outer wave]

Imagine if Flappybird gained even more traction and had a toxic fanbase

[shell mason]

Like some MHA type shit

[fallen plaza]

Flappy bird 15: the huge flap or something

[shell mason]

like ducks life

Soon

it'll be gym time

Back and creatine

[crystal forum]

it's been 8 years dilara put the knife down

[storm jungle]

no

I gotta keep the knife just incase you ask another lore question

[shadow plover]

you paid for flappy bird?

[fallen plaza]

Look who got awarded the sucker of the year

[shell mason]

Isn't dante the oldest BA

[storm jungle]

YOU CANT EVEN PAY FOR THE GAME

[fallen plaza]

Not its your mom

[storm jungle]

yes he is

[shell mason]

There

Witchfinder please put down the knife

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-knife-murder-kill-you-stab-gif-21112347

[shell mason]

thank you, I appreciate what you do for the server

including putting up with my nonsensicals

[storm jungle]

[shell mason]

👍

[outer wave]

Who is the oldest space marine in lore?

[shell mason]

I mean

There is that one Space wolf

[outer wave]

Ragnar?

The dreadnought

[shell mason]

Think so

No it's dante

[fallen plaza]

Out of all the potential stories you can with that idea, they had to make him a spacewolf

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[shell mason]

Non dreadnought

[storm jungle]

harsh

[shell mason]

If not Bjorn is the oldest

ironically he is a space wolf

Tell me

hol ill go on general

[gray umbra]

Is there another reason why they call him the fell handed? 🍆

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[outer wave]

More like The Jelk-handed

[shell mason]

Bruh

[near wasp]

Cause his hand fell off

[shell mason]

L

[fallen plaza]

He fel of

[outer wave]

He jelked it off

It's why he's a dreadnought now

[versed ledge]

Is the Severan Dominate, the only recorded successful non-xenos, non-chaos, emperor worshipping still fearing, rebel faction in the imperium, still a thing?

Or did some 40k dickery wiped them out when the imperium failed

[green loom]

We dunno

[versed ledge]

So status unknown

[green loom]

Yeap

No updates on the Spinward front sadly

[fallen plaza]

We dont even know if there still canon

[versed ledge]

They get real life treatment and 40k imperium treatment: forgotten because bigger things are in play

[storm jungle]

Why would they not be canon

FFG stuff has never been retconned

[green loom]

They're forgotten because licensing issues

Or just a sore spot for GW because of the whole FFG debacle lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah but considering stuff like Rogue Trader exists as a game so would they.

Its not really that much of a debate.

[arctic talon]

They’re still canon

But realistically uh

Sentenced to never being mentioned again

[fallen plaza]

There is a lot big stuff that was just never acknowledged again

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats literally 40k in its majority.

[fallen plaza]

Ok

[spring cairn]

galaxci beeg

[storm jungle]

You should probably know it being such a big fan and all

[fallen plaza]

Err

[forest orbit]

Bro turned into a half life NPC

[storm jungle]

the price for reading too much HH 😔

[fallen plaza]

Ive read a whopping three books

[storm jungle]

the rot has already spread

[fallen plaza]

😩

[storm jungle]

[near wasp]

I'm not looking forward to when I finally read the hh

[storm jungle]

Its not that bad, just has too much slop.

I have read 33 books of it when i was younger and foolish-er 💀

[near wasp]

I've only been into Warhammer for like 3ish years

[opaque coyote]

"Please fucking end my suffering Sangunius."

The winged angel places his hand on Dante's head

"No lmao"

[shell mason]

"No, struggle"

[opaque coyote]

The light was dying; Sanguinius’ smile carried with it the sorrows of ten thousand years. Darkness was returning. The Great Angel disappeared into it, but his glorious voice lingered a moment.

‘I am sorry, my son, that you cannot rest. Not yet. Live, my son. Live.’

Dante returned to life screaming for the mercy of death.

Hands were all over Dante, holding him down. Sharp pains intruded via his neural shunts.

'' ‘No, no, no! No more! Take me with you! I beg you!’ Dante shouted.''

Y'know the worst part about Dante is that the man is legitmately the longest living without any chaos or dreadnought shenangians

He's even been around the Imperium longer than most Primarchs

[hallow saddle]

just carry on with 40k until you feel the need to dive back into the heresy imo, youll probably be looking forwaard to it at that point

then you can enjoy the HH more

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, if I had to introduce somebody to 40k

The HH books would be

the LAST thing

[arctic talon]

Never with the heresy

Imo

Yeah

[hallow saddle]

bottom of the list yeah

its true

[arctic talon]

It also lets people get a taste

[opaque coyote]

"What the fuck is a primarch"

[arctic talon]

Of the wider 40K setting

Since heresy is like

Very very focused on specific stuff

[hallow saddle]

i really dislike it when ppl are like "to understand 40k you need to understand the heresy", when you literalaly 100% dont need to understand the heresy at all

[opaque coyote]

Mainly demigod manchildren

[arctic talon]

You do not need to read the heresy to understand 40K

You just need to know the absolutely barebones

[hallow saddle]

its extra content for if you're desperate to know more

[arctic talon]

Big civil war, half fell to chaos, half didn’t

Emperor ended up on chair

[near wasp]

You can learn about the heresy from a summary at first

[hallow saddle]

"a long fookin time ago"

[opaque coyote]

and the other half fucked off after the Heresy

[hallow saddle]

"a realaly long time aago"

[near wasp]

Only things that really matter imo are manarchia and the siege of terra

[opaque coyote]

due to multiple reasons

[opaque coyote]

Iron Warrior: "Come on guys, please just focus. We need t-"

Emperor's Children: "Hehe 'come' heheheHEHEHE"

[arctic talon]

There are citizens to be turned into drugs

[spring cairn]

sometimes, I dream about cheese

[opaque coyote]

"thank the emperor... I finally arrived at Paradise!"

The EC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t76jz7iFiAY

[forest orbit]

Elite said it best with it just being a horrible place to start in general, and the entire series is more or less just unnecessary shit being expanded on because money lol

[storm jungle]

55 fucking books though you gotta give em credit

[arctic talon]

I like a chunk of them

[storm jungle]

die

[arctic talon]

No

[rose thorn]

Apparently stormcats can still have sex

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats been lore since like

2018

[near wasp]

0_0

What's a stormcat

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26735574

[arctic talon]

Hasn’t this been canon since like 2e or late 1e

[storm jungle]

Yeah it was established in like the earliest stormcast books

i dont blame for people not knowing it though lol

[rose thorn]

I didn’t knowww ;~;

[storm jungle]

🫵

[rose thorn]

I knew they can like

Have relationship ships

stormhost idea, still with their lovers in past life to motivate them

[storm jungle]

[tough haven]

Stop giving me your hardest battles

I love unaligned human factions in 40k

like "Fuck the emperor and fuck chaos, I'm gonna do my own thing"

too bad those arent real

but even the severan dominate follows the emperor

just not terra

[shadow plover]

Votann are close enough

[tough haven]

Yeah but they have no lore

so they practically arent real

[shadow plover]

the next White Dwarf will have loads of lore for sure!

[raven stone]

technically speaking Rogue Traders can count too.
Since their loyalty to the Imperium is just a piece of paper telling them to “do whatever you want whilst exploring”
They could run off to the frontier worlds and just…ignore the Imperium.

[tough haven]

And that is what my rogue trader does lol

[green loom]

https://x.com/VincentKnotley/status/1819748067115147531?t=LNUBduCQ-miWoY6QYHVYxA&s=19

Vincent Knotley (@VincentKnotley) on X

Warhammer 40,000 factions as British Ice Creams and Lollies:

Astra Militarum - Choc Ice

Plentiful, cheap, will fall apart at the first sign of danger.

Twitter · Aug 3, 2024, 2:52 PM

[crystal forum]

what the fuck is choc ice

britain needs to learn actual food

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I had the idea of what's basically another mini faction

Essentially, a bunch of DAoT humans actually decided to go on generation ships out of the galaxy.

During the relatively peaceful times of well... the DAoT

They did eventually land on a few planets and terraform them. But they were also constantly fighting against Tyranids and Orks

Basically, the idea is that they're highly advanced, but also very, very few in number

[arctic talon]

Not evil enough

Smh my head

[crystal forum]

very advanced but not a lot of them

daring today, are we?

[opaque coyote]

You're right, I should have them eat babies as a starting course

[arctic talon]

Eldar reference

[green loom]

You could take notes from like the Van Saar

[opaque coyote]

lmao. I was actually thinking of them being mostly represented by Robots.

[arctic talon]

Idk I think leagues of votann fill the DAOT remnant faction pretty well

[green loom]

The civilization is advanced and still holding itself in a safe enough part of the galaxy but even their advanced technology is Deteriorating and starting to kill them

[arctic talon]

In theory

Please give us more lore

[opaque coyote]

DWARVES

[arctic talon]

Holy shit please give us LoV lore

[opaque coyote]

So true bestie

Please

GW

[arctic talon]

Gav Thrope

Will bring us salvation and damnation

[opaque coyote]

You've got Space Clone Dwarves

[arctic talon]

Simultaneously

[crystal forum]

gay rope

[arctic talon]

Jokes aside Gav will have a lot of lore and world building in his book

Unfortunately it’s also Gav Thrope

[queen laurel]

Bro they are just the obligatory short king faction

[opaque coyote]

Wasn't he the guy that decided to make it so that the Eldar are always shit on

[queen laurel]

We need more s*** on their lore

[opaque coyote]

Forever

[arctic talon]

Eldar are his favorite faction

[green loom]

You know what 40k doesn't have enough of?

[arctic talon]

He believes in suffering builds character

Lol

[crystal forum]

sex

[green loom]

Average oc creator

[arctic talon]

Beyond that uhhh not really

Eldar win

A decent bit

[opaque coyote]

"Ah yes, we will summon the Avatar of Khaine, the most powerfu-"

[green loom]

I was going to say twinks but close enough

[opaque coyote]

"He died"

"What?"

[arctic talon]

They just have books

[crystal forum]

i win

[arctic talon]

That are

[opaque coyote]

"He slipped on some blood and died"

[arctic talon]

Really really fucking bad

the Ynnari vs Shalaxi fight will live rent free

[queen laurel]

Doesn't he know too much suffering also breaks someone?

[arctic talon]

In my skull forever

[opaque coyote]

Ah yes, books so bad, GW literally inserted a "fuck you" in the very last one.

[green loom]

Eldar/Tau books are great when it's not their main writers

[arctic talon]

Idk he made the main character of path of the eldar an incel

[opaque coyote]

AKA Slaanesh having the last sword

[arctic talon]

Path of the incel

[crystal forum]

just the right amount can be pleasurable

[green loom]

Which is problematic because both their main writers are Lead Black Library corpos

[arctic talon]

No that wasn’t even the fuck you

my biggest issue

Is shalaxi goes on a whole thing on

[queen laurel]

Of course you would say that your mother fucker

[arctic talon]

I wasn’t even trying haha

And then they fuck off to the warp

[crystal forum]

uwu come and slap me

[green loom]

And they killed like

[arctic talon]

Like ??????

Why Gav

[green loom]

Half the Ynnari leadership

[queen laurel]

Fuck you go to the nick kyme room

[green loom]

Elite

[opaque coyote]

LMAO

[green loom]

You have a choice

[arctic talon]

Either way eldar are cool

Are you okay?

[green loom]

Gav Thorpe or Phil Kelly

[crystal forum]

he does not seem ok

[arctic talon]

What

Oh

Would I rather get a gav eldar book or Phil tau book

Is that what you’re asking lol

[opaque coyote]

So one bullies the Eldar, while the other bullies the Tau

[arctic talon]

Phil doesn’t bully the tau

Phil just

Is weird about the tau

[green loom]

No one bullies the eldar the other is just bad at writing

[arctic talon]

Gav’s biggest issue is he just

Doesn’t know how to write characters

And he thinks making characters suffer is an arc lol

[green loom]

Actually I can't even say Phil is bad

[opaque coyote]

You mean how his Etherals are essentially mustache twirling villains

[queen laurel]

Okay wolf if i were to ask you which is the main writer for each faction who would you pick for each one

[green loom]

He just can't write Tau

[opaque coyote]

"Suffering builds character"

"Towards what?"

[green loom]

Phil Kelly Tau are like Nick Kyme Salamanders

[opaque coyote]

"...Suffering builds charact-"

[arctic talon]

Gav Thrope shouldn’t write books he should just write lore. Beyond that don’t let Phil Kelly write Tau

Oh also mike brooks only gets ork books

[crystal forum]

luke skywalker got his hand cut off so he could learn to not be a bitch

[arctic talon]

Please

For the love of fucking god

His Huron book was so bad

[queen laurel]

I heard he did the lelith book well

[opaque coyote]

Darth Vader got his skin burnt off so he could learn not to be a bitch

[arctic talon]

I’ve heard it was fine

I have not read the book yet

But genuinely I think most black library writers are fine

[green loom]

Jay how's your new life with officially acquired artist brain

[queen laurel]

Yeah brooks is unfortunately the only one tackling orks right now

[arctic talon]

When they’re doing what they’re good at

[crystal forum]

i went to a con today and im RAVENOUS

[arctic talon]

But genuinely do not let brooks touch another character book

Of the 2 I’ve read I’ve disliked both

[opaque coyote]

Honestly as a Hobby Writer, yeah writing outside of your niche is uncomfortable af

[arctic talon]

Gav really feels like he doesn’t want to write characters

It feels like he wants to write a 20 page long essay on eldar lore lol

[crystal forum]

just let them do cool action scenes

[queen laurel]

Isn't his specialty basically describing the world around the setting

[green loom]

"And then they lost horribly and all died"

[queen laurel]

Like his world building is called amazing

I heard

[crystal forum]

but also like they're paid fucking professionals

[arctic talon]

He is just good at worldbuilding

[green loom]

What con

[opaque coyote]

Didn't he once write that the Eldar threw away their weapons for human ones because they were better or some shit?

[arctic talon]

No

Wtf lol

That’s CS Goto

Who is

[crystal forum]

a fur one ofc

[arctic talon]

Certainly a writer of all time

[green loom]

It's kinda like asking a digital artist who does exclusively digital painting to do a piece of only line work

[opaque coyote]

there are so many black library writers I cannot remember them

[arctic talon]

If you’ve ever wanted to read an eldar get sodomized to death with sticks

You can read his books

Oh also backflipping terminators

[queen laurel]

That's goto, the guy that made the blood ravens chapter master be able to backflip in terminator

[opaque coyote]

So go on Ao3 and check the "Explicit" tag, got it.

[green loom]

CS Goto was bad and also an asshole

[queen laurel]

Jinx

[arctic talon]

No because you would find better and more lore accurate writing on a fanfic website

According to CS goto the drukhari worship chaos and live in the eye of terror

Oh also space marines really like Las weaponry

[opaque coyote]

HUH??

[green loom]

Also the sodomy scene would probably be pleasant to read and not painfully juvenile

[arctic talon]

LOL

[opaque coyote]

I mean I wouldn't mind that, but still, HUH??

[crystal forum]

literally fallout shit

[arctic talon]

Brotherhood of steel lookin aaa

[opaque coyote]

I swear to god why does the series keep retconning for EVERY SINGLE game.

And also the TV show

Please just have one game with consistent lore

[crystal forum]

because fallout lore never took itself seriously

[arctic talon]

@queen laurel orcs are a player handbook race now in dnd lol

[green loom]

I'm just saying they knew what they were doing when they grabbed Ian Watson and he would be PROUD of Ao3 Warhammer

[crystal forum]

this is coming from a life long fallout fan

[queen laurel]

Didn't you need the monster handbook for that kind of s***

[arctic talon]

Inqusitor > CS goto

[arctic talon]

Originally yeah, but they’re PHB now

[opaque coyote]

True, Fallout 2 is an example of that tbh.

[green loom]

Game story comes before lore TLDR

[queen laurel]

Does this have to do with the fact that they basically remove the half orc in the player handbook

[arctic talon]

Yeah half orc and half elf are gone

But you can run them still

Sort of

[queen laurel]

I f****** knew it the bastards

[green loom]

Noo not my busted half elf bard

[arctic talon]

You just mix elf/human stuff

Or orc/human stuff

[opaque coyote]

but y tho

[arctic talon]

Idk

Ask WOTC

[queen laurel]

Apparently it has something to be related to racism

For stereotypes some s*** i don't know something about race

[opaque coyote]

what

[arctic talon]

Im just stealing stuff I like from 5.5e

[green loom]

That's not good

[opaque coyote]

wha

wh

[arctic talon]

Lol

[opaque coyote]

okay

I

what

I cannot

My B R A IN

[arctic talon]

Sentenced to playing a tiefling but everyone calls you slurs

[crystal forum]

aneurism

[green loom]

If it's WOTC it's probably stupid and you should also ignore it

[arctic talon]

Idk

[opaque coyote]

out of stupidity

[arctic talon]

I like some WOTC stuff

[green loom]

Some

[arctic talon]

They finally gave a defined appearance for Aasimar

[queen laurel]

Apparently it's called the fact that half racies are racist

[arctic talon]

We are free

Of like

Vague description

[opaque coyote]

But don't they y'know... exist irl

Not like half orks

but yknow

[queen laurel]

Oh yes apparently they think that's racist

This was back during the wizards of the coast drama by the way

[arctic talon]

Half orks don’t exist in 40K smh

[queen laurel]

Where people were just kind of done with their s***

[arctic talon]

I don’t think half any race works in 40K

[opaque coyote]

???

[opaque coyote]

What about Half Tau

[queen laurel]

Trust me

[arctic talon]

Excluding drukhari science

[opaque coyote]

[queen laurel]

Do not think about it hard

[arctic talon]

Idk the tau practice eugenics lol

[green loom]

I don't actually mind that much, as long as I don't get a dude complaining to me that a book said Nazis are bad like with VTM

[arctic talon]

LOL

Also they didn’t change the whole rarity of species thing either lol

Which is arguably kind of racist but w/e idc

[green loom]

Like I haven't heard great things about the newer world of darkness stuff but if the biggest problem you have is a short box saying "Nazis bad actually" your priorities might be a little messed up

[opaque coyote]

I'll make it wo-

Also we need more Guvesa lore

Gu

Tau Humans

yes

[green loom]

We need more auxiliary lore in general tbch

[opaque coyote]

and the other races in the Tau Auxillary

[arctic talon]

We got more Kroot lore

[green loom]

I'm holding out hope for an eventual wrath and glory or Maledictum expansion for it

[queen laurel]

Besides kroot you red rock that belongs in mars

I want to see the giants they have that can kill a knight in 1v1 punching each other

[arctic talon]

I want mushroom lore

[queen laurel]

Orks

[arctic talon]

I want the mushroom auxiliary

No

Not them

Literal walking mushrooms

That glow

[green loom]

Star wars fandom is cooked ngl

Their pick for "worst clone" is Slick

[opaque coyote]

Apparently there exists a race in the Tau Auxillaries called the Vorgh, that are so big that they can fight a Super Heavy Combat Walker

[green loom]

Oh ya

Don't forget the giant floating psyker bears

Or the mushroom people

[arctic talon]

The gunshrooms

Please

[opaque coyote]

Man the EC are gonna love them

[queen laurel]

You called them mushroom

[arctic talon]

They’re mushrooms

Like giant walking mushrooms

[opaque coyote]

But yeah that aside, I want to see a Vorgh fight somebody in Terminator armor

pls

[arctic talon]

I’ve repeated this like

Twice now

[queen laurel]

Like the ones in dark souls that deck the s*** out of you

[green loom]

Like, literal walking fungi

[arctic talon]

No, too humanoid

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-laios-marcille-chilchuck-gif-14327501401196912076

[green loom]

They're like the one Stellaris fungi race

[arctic talon]

They’re like literal mushrooms with weird spindly legs

[arctic talon]

Yeah like that but bigger lol

[opaque coyote]

Oh sweet

[green loom]

And mounted guns

[arctic talon]

And glowing

[queen laurel]

And also has enough guns to blow up all of america i think that's the description

[opaque coyote]

I was actually kinda sad to see them dead in DS3 tbh

Like a rival that died too soon

[queen laurel]

Well what did you expect you are literally thousands if not a good amount of years into the future or maybe 100 i don't know

[opaque coyote]

Respect for their powerful right hooks lmao

[fallen plaza]

If there is a faction I want to see in the game at some point, it's chaos xenos

[arctic talon]

Same

We had a chaos worshiping xenos race

[queen laurel]

That would be good

[arctic talon]

In the FFG games

[opaque coyote]

I think I saw some concepts for Chaos Tau and they actually look pretty cool

[arctic talon]

Rak’gol or whatever

[green loom]

There's definitely no shortage of them that we just don't see

[fallen plaza]

Specifically I want chaos kroot, I want them to have bushy beards that look like there hair, and dress them up like chaos dwarves

[green loom]

"40k is so deep" mfkers when we barely have info on random local threats that break the generic CSM mould

[arctic talon]

My biggest complaint about baldurs gate 3 is that the underdark is not nearly racist enough/j

[fallen plaza]

Jk

E

[queen laurel]

We did end up in the nice part of the neighborhood

With the tree people

[opaque coyote]

We barely even have any successful Rebellions that don't have Chaos in their grubby little hands

[arctic talon]

We ran into duegar

[queen laurel]

Yes but not the main settlement so the racism energy was very low

[arctic talon]

The fact they don’t immediately try to enslave us is an L I’m mostly joking but still

[green loom]

Or ones that aren't coopted by horrible mind control aliens

[queen laurel]

Aren't they also like under the control of like the brain god

[arctic talon]

Duegar? Some of them

But not all of them

[opaque coyote]

Honestly it would be cool to just

Have a system that successfully rebelled against the Imperium that aren't either Warp or Xenos pilled

Hehe Xenos pilled

[queen laurel]

So the nice guy i talked to for rocks is not dead?

[green loom]

Well we did have the Dominate

[arctic talon]

Yeah he’s normal

[green loom]

But that was FFG/Spinward Front

[queen laurel]

Let's go

[green loom]

So they're in licensing limbo forever

[opaque coyote]

I love how people are like

"The Imperium is needed because all of the dangerous aliens!"

Bro THEY KILLED MOST OF THE PEACEFUL ONES

[arctic talon]

My actual complaints about BG3 is the evil options generally suck outside of Dark Urge so don’t even bother lol

[opaque coyote]

All that's LEFT ARE THE DANGEROUS ONES

[green loom]

that's like horrible imperium stan cope tbh

[arctic talon]

They killed all the peaceful ones and radicalized the remaining peaceful ones while leaving only the violent ones

Certified imperium moment

[queen laurel]

They tried to farm an alien race for the ability of their like blood or something to make them very young but it doesn't even work for a long time and immediately goes off and so they are basically hunted to extinction for nothing

[arctic talon]

Lol

[green loom]

They didn't try

They harvested them to extinction

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah they did

Harvested into extinction my bad

[green loom]

And that's after it was made illegal

[opaque coyote]

Y'know the funniest part is that the xenophobia is literally so ingrained, that CSM still refuse to work with Xenos

Like they still hate them lmao

[arctic talon]

Ranked professional racism

[green loom]

You'd think the majority of imperium fans are hypno indoctrinated with how xenophobic they are

[arctic talon]

Nah

[green loom]

Sorry majority of redditors

[arctic talon]

There we go

[opaque coyote]

I think a good chunk of them know it's just for memes

[queen laurel]

Don't say sorry

Tell them they didn't have a father

[green loom]

Doesn't make them any less annoying

[opaque coyote]

At least I hope

[queen laurel]

Oh boy

Do i have the words for you

[opaque coyote]

Oh no

[queen laurel]

Yes they only care about the memes

[green loom]

A lot of meme-borne fans specifically are extremely prone to tribalist factionalism

It got so old and tiring that it's made me like all 40k factions

[opaque coyote]

I like the Tau

[green loom]

Same

I like the lore tidbit where most of the armour we see is straight up camo

[arctic talon]

The only 40K faction I don’t like is leagues of votann because they have 0 lore

So I don’t even know if I like them

[queen laurel]

I like orks and i'm a simple guy people like people are genuinely surprised i don't hate their faction

[arctic talon]

I think the idea is cool

[queen laurel]

Like i don't like the dark eldar mind you but i don't scream at you to not like them

[opaque coyote]

Rn most people just use Deep Rock Galactic quotes for them

And tbf

It does fit

[queen laurel]

Also a good chunk of deep rock aesthetic is

[opaque coyote]

So called free thinkers when they see gold:

[queen laurel]

Quite literally copied for the votan

[opaque coyote]

"WE'RE RICH. WE'RE RICH. WE'RE RI-"

[green loom]

I saw one guy talking to himself about not being able to like Tau because he's "hyper pro human" and wants to keep his "space racism" intact

(this doesn't read as something bad at all!)

[queen laurel]

Hey ed how much you bet if actual aliens in real life show up that warhammer fans will become the old racist boomers

[green loom]

Implying they aren't already?

[queen laurel]

Shit

[opaque coyote]

Honestly the funniest one is this

[queen laurel]

I lost the bet

[opaque coyote]

I still fucking laugh

Everytime I read it

[arctic talon]

Votann are different enough aesthetically imo

They’re much more visually busy

[queen laurel]

Yes but you have to admit if you really put your mind into it you can make a votan look deep rock galactic as shit

[arctic talon]

Yes

[queen laurel]

Especially the ones in necromunda

[opaque coyote]

Probably cause they're both space dwarves

[queen laurel]

Vaporeon i swear to god if you don't shut up i will give you to a furry

[arctic talon]

The indomitable human will to become actual genocidal monsters

[green loom]

r/40klore experience be like
"hey I find insert interesting non imperium lore tidbit interesting let's talk!"
Like 20 upvotes in as many hours and 4 comments

"Did fulgrim let remembrancers peg him?"
8364 upvoted and 868 comments

[opaque coyote]

The answer is yes

Probably with a rotten wooden fence post too

[green loom]

The Warhammer art subs meanwhile

Generic space marine
4322918293 upvotes and endless praise
Insanely good non+marine piece(bonus if Xenos)
"GRR HERESY GRR, WOMAN GRR"
Fraction of upvotes

[queen laurel]

Yeah they are not even hiding it at this point

They are just racist and sexist

[opaque coyote]

I almost want GW to add female space Marines just to fuck with them

Fuck it

Just go the full mile

[green loom]

I mean did you see the meltdown they had over custodes lol

[queen laurel]

Judging from the meltdown with the golden banana fucks

The damage would be hilariously catastrophic

[opaque coyote]

Yeah.

The worst part is that it changes nothing. They're basically in their armor 24/7

Hell they're enhanced since they're babies. They probably look similar too.

[outer wave]

Ive personally never seen this outside of the downvoted guys

Ive seen praise if anything

[opaque coyote]

I've seen some cool art on that sub

Always like to see it

[outer wave]

Same, good art is good

[opaque coyote]

I think my favorite was the concept for Tau Space Marines.

Yes, it is very improbable that will ever happen

[green loom]

My thoughts might be poisoned by crappy Grimdank stuff

[opaque coyote]

Doesn't mean it looks really fucking cool

[green loom]

And I might be mixing up subs due to

[opaque coyote]

Ah yes

The power of Tzeentch

[outer wave]

It I believe happens, but I dont think its ever been expanded upon on the tabletop

[opaque coyote]

I don't think it has.

The Tau generally don't recruit Space Marines due to them being extremely, violently, racist

[green loom]

We have Tau aligned inquisitors, if there are marines they probably just wouldn't be explorer

[outer wave]

^

[outer wave]

Tbf thats no different from guardsmen who are deep in the kool-aid or any other human in the IoM

[opaque coyote]

Fair enough.

[outer wave]

And CSM exist so therefore its possible for marines to break away

[opaque coyote]

And hilariously enough the CSMs are still violently xenophobic

[outer wave]

I think they can at least tolerate some ailen species when it comes to trading of weapons and supplies

I dont got a source for that, I just read that once on r/40klore

[opaque coyote]

Yeah true. It would be nice to see some CSMs use like Tau weapons or something

Since y'know

The warp doesn't do well with things like

"Supply Chains"

And

[outer wave]

They are scavengers

So yeah it would make sense

[opaque coyote]

"Consistent sources of food, water, and ammo"

Honestly

The Noise Marines are probably my favorite if only because

Let's be fair here, literally playing music so loud it kills is awesome

Yes IK in lore it's a bunch of cacophony

But it's just really cool to imagine them playing King Crimson while the unlucky guardsmen nearby get their skin blown off from the sheer volume

[outer wave]

Local man gets atomized by Darude Sandstorm

[opaque coyote]

THIS TUNE... IS FOR THE PRINCE!

plays Nickelback

[outer wave]

Radioactive

[opaque coyote]

You're stuck in the trenches. Holding your lasgun in the distance. You suddenly see a purple colored Space Marine connect to a bunch of spikey speakers. And the very last thing before your skin is flayed by the sheer force is...

"...SHIKANOKO NOKONOKO KOSHITANTAN!"

[outer wave]

Its just https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538759212272975913/1268846683962474518/bea4239f6975090a9f80eb85424bcfbf.mp4?ex=66af3a8f&is=66ade90f&hm=bf00e0dc6d1d5440da2681696e0b6114c23799d6c85ae3ead8e05910645afe46&

But bass boosted

[opaque coyote]

Why is the "pyoko pyoko" part so catchy

[outer wave]

I dunno

I think fun onomaetopia words in Japanese are just fun to say and listen to

[opaque coyote]

Yes

[shell mason]

In lore the first noise marine was playing the sounds and Burst a space marines hearing circuits making him deaf. So the chad walks up to the noise marine that gives him a full noise blast to the face. This absolutely madlad says and I qoute.

"What I was that I couldn't hear that!"

Before turning the fucker into pink mist

[dusk patrol]

The marine was deaf from Istvaan V and the noise marines gun had been destroyed so he just did his yell

Which before had deafened and stunned people but didn’t work cause no hearing

[pale onyx]

is there a reason why only half dead space marines are put into dreadnaughts? Like I understand they only want extremely loyal and skilled space marines in one but why wate until one is half dead lol

[shadow plover]

they tend not to want to be entombed within one

and when it is the last option keeping them alive and active then it usually seems like an okay option

[queen laurel]

a dreadnought it's a way to preserve space marines that are noteworthy

[shadow plover]

albeit even then many wished not to be entombed into one and they will be against their wishes

[queen laurel]

other than that it's basically just another war machine

and space marines have vehicles that can perform its function

breaking down walls being battering rams you name it

[elfin sleet]

Legitimate Question: do grenades have Machine Spirits?

[queen laurel]

nope

[elfin sleet]

...Do fancier grenades have Machine Spirits?

[queen laurel]

a lot of the stuff a machine spirit inhabits needs to be alive for the long term and quite complex

[elfin sleet]

Ahhh ok.

[queen laurel]

generators

or you know guns but their machine spirit tends to be weak

ships literal tanks you name it it needs to complex enough and not designed to kill itself

[elfin sleet]

Yep, makes sense.

[tough haven]

Could be servitorized though

Theres servitor bullets

[raven stone]

Agents pre-order next Saturday

…27 Datasheets…
That seems…oddly high… 🤔

Are we getting some Grey Knight/Sisters choices folded in as well?

[green loom]

Did you not know lol

They're requisition troops

For Malleus/Hereticus

[opaque coyote]

Machine Spirits in general are kinda vague on whether they're

real

AI

or just the mechanicus being on too much olive oil

Either way, grenades don't qualify for any of the three

Unless if they're Vortex Grenades or something

Since I'm at least 80% sure that sending your opponent to the fucking warp requires some level of advanced tech

Apparently, you also have to recite a "Psalm of Armament" before lobbing it at somebody. And they're known for being finicky

So there might genuinely be a machine spirit. Or it's just the warp being... the warp.

Either way, pray you don't get sucked in

[shell mason]

Think of it like this

The Killdozer had a absolutely nutty machine spirit

[nocturne crest]

If a machine had two engines built into it, would it have only one machine spirit?

[dusk patrol]

You’re asking for more solid rules on machine spirits then exists

Maybe, maybe not

[plush mason]

how many machine spirits would be in a void ship?

it is just one for the whole ship or does every gun engine and what not have one?

[spring cairn]

at least 10

[dusk patrol]

All of the above

[storm jungle]

Just one.

[viral halo]

Just saw this meme

[storm jungle]

Awful outfits but good meme

[shell mason]

me frfr

[crystal forum]

fuck cadia but also fuck psykers

my level of fuck you:

1. orks, kill em all
2. psykers, cant trust em
3. cadians, im jealous
4. beans on toast

[shell mason]

ok

what about spam?

[crystal forum]

spam is good if cooked right

boomers are just stupid

[shell mason]

so your not a boomer?

[crystal forum]

not lately, no

[shell mason]

then gen x?

[rocky gale]

Zoomers only

[shell mason]

god I feel old

[storm jungle]

I hate these brainrot generational terms

who the fuck came up with these

[rocky gale]

Dilara is a stimky Millennial

[shell mason]

If you think about it alot of shit you watched growing up was considered brain rot

[crystal forum]

boomers actually comes from baby boom but it got turned around so hard. gen x, gen z, gen alpha, bruh all that shit sounds like pokemon generations

[storm jungle]

still stupid tbh

just refer to people by the decade they were born in using numbers

the fuck is "baby boomer"

is this Left 4 Dead

[crystal forum]

it's literally a demographic thing

[shell mason]

They blow up baby's obviously

[storm jungle]

yeah but it doesnt really stop it from being stupid

"Gen Z", like a goofy ahh sci-fi term 💀

[shell mason]

ew

[crystal forum]

alpha because they ran out of letters

also Y completely skipped for millenial

[shell mason]

goofy ahh coming from Witchfinder feels...very cursed

[rocky gale]

So sad that we're going to have an entire generation of Betas

[shell mason]

Maybe

Generation Gamma sounds cool though

Or Zeta

[crystal forum]

hopefully there will be better terms by then

[shell mason]

Or omega

[storm jungle]

these terms are some X-Men shit

💀

[shell mason]

got any better ideas?

like deadass not trying to be smart

[storm jungle]

Just use terms that arent goofy

as for ideas idk, anything is better than these lol

[crystal forum]

digital generation instead of gen Z since it describes the overall period in one word

and the use of the internet

[rocky gale]

Gen X was the first to use a letter and that was because X was a symbol representing uncertainty

For some reason they decided to just keep using letters after that

Gen Y (Millenials) and Gen Z (Zoomers)

[crystal forum]

might as well call gen alpha the slave generation with how the world is going

or the greatest generation 2 eletric boogaloo depending on when WW3 starts

[shell mason]

We will see how it goes

worse case

we fail the great filter

[crystal forum]

sci fi slop term

[shell mason]

I don't think it a Sci fi term

more of a theory if anything

[crystal forum]

it's another one of those philosophical terms that some scientist in the 60's came up with before we even knew what a transistor computer was

[shell mason]

Sci fi just made it popular

[crystal forum]

like the kardashev scale

all bullshit

[shell mason]

it was made in the 90s dude

maybe its bs

[crystal forum]

oh fuck even worse

[shell mason]

maybe it's not

[crystal forum]

it was made by an economics professor

[shell mason]

Maybe we're the most advanced civilization out there

maybe we're not

Regardless it's terrifying

[rocky gale]

Maybe the aliens want to come to earth but they're allergic to water

[crystal forum]

i legit thought the great filter came from the fermi paradox but this is so much worse

i was about to say dont listen to a physicist when they talk about human sciences

but NEVER listen to an economist when it comes to human sciences

[shell mason]

Dude alot of theories come from people that literally no one trusts

Unless it's how the stars we're seeing now aren't the stars we're seeing

That's actually scary to me

[crystal forum]

when it comes to aliens the answer is we dont know

straight up

everything else is conjecture

and a lot of the times not with the best intentions

[shell mason]

Yeah of course we don't know

[crystal forum]

you dont seem to understand completely

these theories are baloney

[shell mason]

I do

[crystal forum]

good

then never quote them and think your own outlandish theory

[shell mason]

But it's better to at least entertain the idea and think yk?

the shit with stars we do know

[crystal forum]

here's something i prefer to think about:
we know less about the human brain's operation than we do about the universe itself

[shell mason]

We don't see stars or planets since they're still moving and only see them from the light reaching our eyes.

because

humans are weak

alot of the science we know of the human body came from a actual death camp

where literally nothing was held back

but that's good cause that mean we still have our humanity

But fuck I don't want to sound a doomer or some shit

[rocky gale]

and you don't seem to understand

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-breakdancing-dancing-guilty-gear-guilty-gear-strive-gif-26438854

[shell mason]

Bro I saw the wrong frame load up

[crystal forum]

bridget

anyways did you know it would take upwards of a million years to fully scan a brain using even the most invasive method we have

and our technology is currently limited to either very small sections of the brain with more detail or large scale with little to no detail

and with the advancements of optical computing we could possibly deal with this problem in the next couple decades

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/northva11ejo-gif-21478801

[shell mason]

Come on bro not in lore chat

You killed your point right there

[crystal forum]

i have a furry pfp

you should not have high standards of me

[shell mason]

I thought you were better

yet you fail me

https://tenor.com/view/flashgitz-furry-warhammer-gif-23607891

[crystal forum]

i wish to see the day where nanoscale eletronics can mesh with biomed industry fully

[shell mason]

Just get the Elon musk brain thing

And become the cyberpunk

[crystal forum]

as much as i love the increase of funding in a very research based field with few short term returns

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cyberpunk-anime-david-cyberpunk-edgerunners-tears-gif-26728517

[crystal forum]

do not trust that man

ever

also do a quick google search neural link like holy shit

[shell mason]

dude

[crystal forum]

they just killed so many monkeys for no reason

we deserve the upcoming planet of the apes

[shell mason]

remember

If the war with apes come

I'm going back into a cave

[crystal forum]

emperor is that you?

[shell mason]

yes

[tough haven]

Is there any way to study/plunder a necron tomb while waking up or alerting its residents minimally?

playing mechanicus and thinking of this

[shell mason]

Most likely

[crystal forum]

tell angron he's a bitch in 20000 years

[tough haven]

like obviously awakening is just a mechanic in game

but idk if theres actually a lore correlation of being able to slow it enough to plunder their knowledge

[shell mason]

dw every nail is a testament on how much I hate you/jk

[tough haven]

I wonder how you would go about that as a tech priest

just a rule of leave no trace?

[crisp heath]

So if a pdf does happen to fight like hell and crush a chaos rebellion as an Inquisitor shows up, will they still get nuked

[shell mason]

a what?

[crisp heath]

Planetary defense force

[tough haven]

depends how large

[shell mason]

it will be destoryed due to chaos taint

[tough haven]

if its just some cultists, sure

theyll live

but if theres like daemons and whatnot, they'll probably be killed

the knowledge that there are crazy people who worship things other than the emperor and that those peopel are bad is permitted

[arctic talon]

if its just a bunch of cultists nothing happens

[shell mason]

fuck i have to reread the boys comic at some point

I like garth eneis's work including Cross but god I forget how limit how brutal he can be

[winged jacinth]

Anything a PDF can deal with is unlikely to justify killing them

Its really only the stuff where exposure puts you at risk of later chaos madness that gets you killed