40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

and they made the quarry 🤮

[arctic talon]

wait

supermassive is making it lmao

[plush mason]

the what?

[crystal forum]

a shitty game that's literally just a movie

[arctic talon]

either way the economy as a whole

is on fire rn lol

[crystal forum]

and somehow it was super popular because streamers

[arctic talon]

so its going to reflect in whats going on in the gaming industry as well

[plush mason]

2 wars at the same time can tend to do that, especially on the back of general idiocy on the part of world leaders

[crystal forum]

fun fact: it isn't

[arctic talon]

I mean it is to an extent lol

on fire is an overstatement

but its got issues rn

[crystal forum]

this is not an opinion it is statistically not at a low

[crisp heath]

I think the biggest L in modern gaming

Is hifi rush studio being laid off

[celest dome]

As someone in the industrial energy side of thing, it's not doing as well as it did 10 or so years ago

[crisp heath]

Such a fun game

[crystal forum]

my personal biggest L is dead space studio being killed

and EA still going on with the franchise

like fuck you

you do not deserve this

[celest dome]

5 year was when we had the bigger problems

[plush mason]

classic case of making a really popular game but not making enough cash to make the vultures investors happy

[dense dawn]

I love me megazords

[crystal forum]

like sony trying to force changes onto probably their best selling game... ever

[plush mason]

all to boost PSN account numbers for the investor meeting

[crystal forum]

literal brain rot only an idiotic executive could think of

[arctic talon]

whats new

line must go up

it cannot infinitely go up

[crystal forum]

"this is going super well, how do i add something to it so i can tack my name onto the project?"

[arctic talon]

I cannot wait for private equity firms to crash and burn

[crystal forum]

that's not how private equity works

[plush mason]

not with that attitude: some brain dead man child CEO

[crystal forum]

by definition it will not crash and burn

it will take down the whole economy first

[arctic talon]

I can still hope

[celest dome]

Well it could crash and burn, but it would mean everything else has already burned

[arctic talon]

that it'll fucking implode

before it parasitizes and kills off the rest of the economy

the same way I am praying for the AI bubble to finally fucking implode

[plush mason]

"sometimes you have to break a bone before it can be set"

[celest dome]

I'm hoping we will see it be burst by Green/ecology reasons and workers right one too

[arctic talon]

Workers rights

[crystal forum]

fever dream

[arctic talon]

is the one I'm hoping it'll die over

lol

but idk

[plush mason]

there is 0 logic in trying to maintain a broken system

[celest dome]

Unless you benefit from it

Plenty of such cases in the past

[arctic talon]

shame there's not an alternative that doesn't go straight to hell everytime its been practiced on a wide scale

[crystal forum]

i see people defending private equity saying it kills off "weak companies"

[plush mason]

it seems to be last i heard

[crisp heath]

Companies by judicial order exist to give money to investors

[plush mason]

Wallstreet isnt seeing the returns the AI bros promised

[arctic talon]

obviously

I hope AI bros go bankrupt lol

and any idiot who believed them goes bankrupt as well

[crisp heath]

What’s ai bros?

[arctic talon]

subset of tech bro

except obessed with AI

[crisp heath]

I think ai is cool, would not invest in it

[arctic talon]

Aka buisness majors who are overly obsessed with AI

its not AI

its a fucking algorithm that

[crystal forum]

people who think humanity exists not to interpret the world with art but instead to work in a 7/11

[arctic talon]

you know what nevermind

[crisp heath]

The only exception

[arctic talon]

I've ranted about AI like

so many goddamn times

and how its a stupid name

[celest dome]

Ye

[crisp heath]

Remote controlled tractors

[arctic talon]

for something thats way more intresting then just AI

[crisp heath]

Would make so much money

If they made them smarter

And not just follow a path

[arctic talon]

John Deere DRM

removal

my beloved

[crisp heath]

lol

[crystal forum]

do you know how sophisticated farming equipment is

[arctic talon]

Also yeah farming equipment is really complex

[celest dome]

Remote controlled tractors would be so dumb
Much cheaper to employ uneducated peoples

[crystal forum]

and how farmers are being gouged by companies like john deer

[plush mason]

ngl as time goes on the admech's stance on AI starts to look better and better

[crisp heath]

Yeah I saw the automated tractor systems before, they follow a path and just do the work without a driver

[arctic talon]

behold the horde of Migrant workers the US uses for farming

its almost like the eocnomy doesn't function

without it

[crisp heath]

Follow sat or something

[crystal forum]

also farming is a lot more complicated than it looks

you cant replace a farmer

[crisp heath]

Was a VERY rich farm though

[arctic talon]

As horribly exploitative as it is

[celest dome]

Europe also does it sadly, though mostly for fruit plantations and such

[crisp heath]

But it was really cool

[arctic talon]

I think literally most western countries farming labor

[crisp heath]

Should fall

Oh

[arctic talon]

is built off of migrant workers

[crisp heath]

This is true

They actually have always been like this

[celest dome]

All the works the citizens don't want to do (like Binmens)

[crystal forum]

the US, where an entire state's water supply is directed to a desert for farming while 3/4 of the country is a vast plain of fertile land

[arctic talon]

Arizona™️

[crystal forum]

i was talking about california but many states apply lol

[crisp heath]

I think America had a war about this

[arctic talon]

California isn't a desert

at least for the areas farmed

the real water drain is bcs of Almonds and alfalfa farming

[crystal forum]

it very much is water wise

[arctic talon]

which are both horribly water consuming

[crystal forum]

also

we need to grow corn

to feed cows

[arctic talon]

alfalfa farming is absurdly profitable

we literally grow too much corn already

lol

[celest dome]

the USA is the biggest grower of almonds iirc

[crystal forum]

problem: we have too much corn

[arctic talon]

California specifically

makes like

[crystal forum]

solution: put corn in everything

[arctic talon]

So many fucking almonds its insane

California in general has absurd agricultural output

[crisp heath]

Americas problem with farming

[arctic talon]

which is funny to think about

[crisp heath]

Is bill gates buying it all lol

[arctic talon]

LOL

[plush mason]

we grow so much its literally outpacing the Amazon rain forest in O2 production lol

[celest dome]

Problems: People don't like corn enough
Solution: Make it into a sweetener to put it in everything

[crystal forum]

and the state sees rain like twice a year

[arctic talon]

this is just

untrue

[crystal forum]

ok mister california

i know it's a wide state

but i'm generalizing here

[arctic talon]

okay but like

they don't farm in those places

[celest dome]

Maybe you shouldn't

[crystal forum]

maybe i should

[celest dome]

generalise

[arctic talon]

either way the US makes so much corn the government has to subsidize it

[crystal forum]

build your fucking high speed rail

[arctic talon]

we would have if Elongated Muskrat didn't exist

smh my head

[crystal forum]

california makes more money than my entire country. build a train

[plush mason]

isnt generalization the only allowed way to talk about things on the internet? /s

[arctic talon]

Fucking hyperloop

is so goddamn stupid

do you know how easy it would be

[celest dome]

Fair, though there is also lying, which is also useful

[arctic talon]

to just pull a terrorist attack on one

because of the stupid pressurized tube

[crystal forum]

it was a scam wolf

[arctic talon]

Obviously

[plush mason]

Elon full on said it was nothing but a ploy to get the tram railway stopped

[crystal forum]

half the shit this guy says is a scam

[arctic talon]

but people eat it up

because they're fucking mentally deficent

and have not seen the glorys of proper rail transport

[crystal forum]

it's not exagerating, it's not salesmanship, he's a fucking conman

[arctic talon]

I love east asian public transportation

I love trains

[scenic bolt]

starlink requires replacing like 1/5 of all their 13000+ satellites every 2 years

[arctic talon]

genuinely regularly service with trains would solve so many fucking issues with transportation

in many places

[crystal forum]

and people act like the project wasn't like half funded by the government

[arctic talon]

"Libertarian" moment

[plush mason]

exactly why America wont use them, they would rip the automotive industry's profits to shreads

[arctic talon]

Who gives a shit

Ford deserves to die at this rate

[celest dome]

Remember when Musk was trying to make himself as the real 'Tony Stark' ?
What a buffon

[crystal forum]

now spacex can gouge rural communities with admittedly good internet

[arctic talon]

Most american automobile companies have been bailed out way too many times by the US government lol

[plush mason]

the government that take the manufactor's money and own stock in the companies

[arctic talon]

guh

this is true

[crystal forum]

muh free market

[arctic talon]

"free" market

"regulated" market

regulated in the favor of the peoples whos intrests it serves

[crystal forum]

it's only free when it does what i want

[arctic talon]

mmmm yes

[plush mason]

"the first thing a free market does is stop being free" even a fuckwit like Asmondgold knows that

[crystal forum]

that AI defender lol

[arctic talon]

Free markets don't exist

in a large scale

mostly since that would just result in a monoply lol

[crystal forum]

it's almost like everything has an end game and we're not just going to constantly stay in the first stages of every system

people are so dumb man

[plush mason]

exactly what has happened now

[crystal forum]

it's an oligarchy now

in my country it's all monopolies

[arctic talon]

I mean

[plush mason]

same thing

[arctic talon]

yeah

[crystal forum]

teddy roosevelt would have a stroke

[arctic talon]

Monoplies and oligarchies tend to go hand in hand

No shit

[crystal forum]

imagine him breaking apart disney

[arctic talon]

its not as bad as shit like Standard Oil

or American Steel yet

[plush mason]

its getting there

[arctic talon]

Yeah

but its def not as bad yet

Disney also isn't a monoply

[plush mason]

and hopefully this new gilded age will go the way of the first

[arctic talon]

its just a really big fucking media conglomerate

[crystal forum]

a world war?

[arctic talon]

can we get actual public stuff

made by Gilded age 2 rich people

like more libaries or railroad 2

[scenic bolt]

I LOVE NEOLIBERALISM ITS NOT JUST LITE LIBERTARIANISM

[plush mason]

nah, just broken up and all the wealth redistributed

[scenic bolt]

free market can totally regulate itself

[arctic talon]

and more unions

well the wealth didn't get redistributed

[dusk patrol]

Yes

You are people

[arctic talon]

during the break up of those companies

the government forced them to start paying higher wages + more unions formed

[storm jungle]

We truly live in a susciety

[celest dome]

Honestly a shame what the American corporatism managed to do with Unions

[arctic talon]

simply be like east asia

and never have unions in the first place

therfore you can get horribly abused by your employers instead

[crystal forum]

all because people got too complacent to stop the steady demise

[plush mason]

ideally we would never need unions

[dusk patrol]

American unions are fine, at least the ones which matter.

[arctic talon]

yeah

but we should have more

and stronger ones tbh

[dusk patrol]

Although they just become the same thing eventually

We need a union for our union

[crystal forum]

americans should just care more in general. i hope that isn't a polarizing opinion

[arctic talon]

Its not if you're sane

[crystal forum]

it's like voting. just vote

[dense dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-joker-2008joker-gif-27536830

[arctic talon]

[plush mason]

we need watchers for the watchers for the watchers that watch us

[crystal forum]

who watches the watchmen

[scenic bolt]

no one cause it got canceled

[dense dawn]

Wait why

[plush mason]

its almost like humanity built a system of governance that is full on axiom to most of our natural needs

[crystal forum]

people need to remember that zack snyder's watchmen is so fucked up

[scenic bolt]

low viewership

[arctic talon]

are you talking about democracy 💀

[plush mason]

no

[celest dome]

Capitalism ?

[dense dawn]

Only if tho rigjt

[arctic talon]

capitalism isn't a system of governance

[plush mason]

im talking about the hierarchy in general

[crystal forum]

we didn't build anything. we just let the system appear because we were too lazy by nature to work on a good one

[storm jungle]

This reminds of a guy i banned here

[arctic talon]

do you want us to stop our conversation

lol

[storm jungle]

who was going about how conquering other soceities especially if they arent "primitive" not evil

he of course had a statue pfp

and went on a fascist tirade

[plush mason]

its the only system we have and it barely works

[storm jungle]

Nah its fine

was just interjecting, continue

im gaming anyway

[crystal forum]

ah yes ancient greek lovers i wonder what their opinion on modern society is

[storm jungle]

LOL

honestly its hilarious how every statue pfp dude

has some wild absolutely psychopathic takes on societal stuff

"we should go back to beating up women and teach their place"

"we should bring back public floggings"

"what happened to our clothes"

[crystal forum]

i love that one statue of the young soldier going to war made by a literal nazi is also loved by these people

[storm jungle]

THAT ONE YEA

its hilarious

[crystal forum]

so fucking funny

[storm jungle]

bros really think they are Alex Jones

[plush mason]

i bet they think they are being cleaver with it too lol

[crystal forum]

fun news he's losing his billion dollars to court

they finally caught him

[plush mason]

ngl that sounds like an insult

[crystal forum]

they dont. they genuinely never care enough to learn why nazis liked ancient greece so much

[plush mason]

true

[crystal forum]

they're all fucking kids

mentally or physically

[plush mason]

mentally at least

[storm jungle]

Nazis basically yoinked from any culture they thought was sigma while ignoring anything else about them lol

[plush mason]

yeah adult kids are a big problem, especially as it seems almost all CEOs are exactly that

40+ year old toddlers with way way too much money

[crystal forum]

who knew appealing to male fantasies is extremely easy and works (we're all fucking stupid)

[plush mason]

stupid people are the single biggest threat to humanity

and always will be

why? because there is billions of them and it takes very little to get them to do whatever the fuck you tell them too

[crystal forum]

even socrates said this like 2000 years ago lol

[plush mason]

yup

and stupid people killed him for it

[arctic talon]

Singapore moment

[dusk patrol]

Also they had drip

Storm coats and caps, so hot rn

[storm jungle]

Well yeah when you need to brainwash kids to sign up thats all you need

the sign of every fascist enemy faction in media

[plush mason]

not just kids, any idiot of which the vast majority of human is counted in

[dusk patrol]

The morals leaving my body whenever the bad guys have cool outfits

[plush mason]

^

never forget all it took for the German people to turn on their neighbors was economic problems and a dude screming into a microphone

[crystal forum]

just point at something and blame it for all of life's problems

[plush mason]

a tactic as old as time and totally dependent on the majority of people being idiots

which is why no one in power will never allow that to change

[crisp heath]

I’d change

I’m different

[viral halo]

Tell that to my leather trench coat with a high collar why don't you

[storm jungle]

AAAA-

[viral halo]

I always wondered, what is your PFP

[crystal forum]

dilara hacking the pentagon

[storm jungle]

LOL

[crystal forum]

is my headcannon

[storm jungle]

its from Mayhem (2017), super fucking good movie. Basically a dark comedy/action flick where a viral virus gets released in a office complex where it turns off the sensible parts of your brain and makes your emotions surge forward, the main guy is fighting uphill to the top floor to kill his boss since he fires him while he plays golf in his office and snorts cocaine, the quarantine will be lifted in like 24 hours so thats the time limit he has to get there, one of the leading female actresses helps him since she also has a house loan on the line or shes gonna get kicked out and needs a signature

[viral halo]

viral virus

[storm jungle]

Extremely fun movie, super recommend it

[crystal forum]

the water is wet

oh shit glen

[storm jungle]

stfu both of you

lmfao

[storm jungle]

you mean In-

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[viral halo]

If it's invincible then why can I see it

[crystal forum]

did you just reveal to me a movie i should have watched 5 years ago

god damn it

[storm jungle]

ITS STEVEN YEING HIS VOICE ACTOR

[storm jungle]

Honestly it has a pretty good runtime

and its nothing serious, just gory fun

[viral halo]

Glen from the walking dead?

[storm jungle]

STFU

AAA

[crystal forum]

i like the part where he dies

[viral halo]

I'm reading star wars legacy again

[storm jungle]

no

[storm jungle]

to be fair

at that point he was basically unknown

lol

[crystal forum]

when he died?

[viral halo]

2016

[crystal forum]

he was pretty known at that point

now he's in fucking everything

[viral halo]

Idk why they would cast a visible actor in a show called invincible when the whole point is you're not supposed to see him

[green loom]

Is that Glen fro mthe Walking Dead??????

Oh lamo

[crystal forum]

it's like the actor who's the I AM A SURGEON guy

not the guy screaming it

the asian guy

[green loom]

I AM A STURGEON MR KRABS

[crystal forum]

he's in everything

fucking lost even

[viral halo]

Dr Han

he was actually the creator of that show

he bought the rights to the Korean show and ported it to America and made the good doctor

he prob made stupid money off of it

[storm jungle]

i love how bad the avatar show is

but everyone was like

"the guy that plays the Firelord is a gigachad"

lmfao

https://tenor.com/view/angry-fire-lord-ozai-avatar-the-last-airbender-ready-to-fight-daniel-dae-kim-gif-2960632860465156985

ZAMN

[viral halo]

Have we had our Wolverine vs Deadpool discourse in discord yet

[green loom]

Wait was he Shang Tsung

[storm jungle]

I dont think so

[storm jungle]

slop

[crystal forum]

i need to watch the RLM video first so i can form my opinion

[viral halo]

I heard it has unapologetic use of the R word and that makes me happy

the world is healing

[green loom]

Ain't no way

[crystal forum]

i need to know something

[green loom]

My man is Johnny Gat

[crystal forum]

why do people hate chris prat but love ryan reynolds

[green loom]

Wesley Snipes says it

[viral halo]

Let's fucking go

[viral halo]

Chris Pratt abandoned his first marriage and pretends his disabled kid from that marriage doesnt exist

[storm jungle]

Gyatt Out of Hell

[green loom]

Doesn't he also donate to some weird 'phobe church lmao

[crystal forum]

holy shit really?

did not expect that but too numb to be disappointed

[celest dome]

Doesn't Ryan Reynold have more range as an actor than Pratt ?

[storm jungle]

Not really

he plays the same character in every movie

he just clicked as Shitpool

[dusk patrol]

You know on second thought maybe the Earth kingdom had it coming….

[green loom]

They both play themselves

It's like Kevin Hart

Or the Rock

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

Pratt peaked at Andy and he's just been playing Pratt since

[storm jungle]

I remember when Hart got announced as Roland for the upcoming BL2 movie

and people were like

"Oh my god kill me"

[rocky gale]

The show may have sucked but this actor fucking loves Avatar

[dusk patrol]

That’s not based on anything either him or his wife have said that I’ve seen.

[rocky gale]

He's been in every adaptation except the Movie

[storm jungle]

leave it to Eternal to defend hollywood parasites

[dusk patrol]

His ex wife has defended him a lot about being a good dad like idk

[storm jungle]

yeah uh

thats how most hollywood wives work

bitches love that money

[dusk patrol]

She’s a famous actress

[storm jungle]

never heard of her

[dusk patrol]

She doesn’t need to defend him

[viral halo]

I'm just repeating rumors I personally think he just gets attacked bc he's an unapologetic Christian

[rocky gale]

Was the Earthbending General who tries to bring out the Avatar State in ATLA and Hiroshi Sato in LoK, then he's Firelord in the Live action ATLA

[dusk patrol]

Not as famous as him but like

[dusk patrol]

People have this weird thing where they just say stuff about him, I don’t even like him but like, it gets really weird how people spread this stuff when his wife and him have as far as I’m aware been pretty open about how they drifted apart and he’s still active in his life

[viral halo]

here's the best summary I could find

[rocky gale]

Only thing I know about Pratt outside his actor job is he used to work for a weird church

[dusk patrol]

And this isn’t hard to find, I looked it up once and they’re both pretty clear on it. People just put stuff in the worst light they can for whatever reason

[viral halo]

Idk what Chuch he belongs to though

Church

[rocky gale]

Like it was a Christian church that specifically targeted and tried to convert Jewish people or something

[viral halo]

someone find that out rq

[dusk patrol]

Meanwhile, no one who works with him has anything but good things to say it’s kinda hilarious

[viral halo]

Well they lost their covenant with God after the destruction of the second temple so only makes sense yk

[dusk patrol]

Also mfers acting like the goddamn Mario movie and Garfield are some sacred cows that are being desecrated

Who fucking cares it’s all trash

[storm jungle]

They are cool characters

not everyone is a doomer like you, you fucking bionicle infested dingus

[dusk patrol]

The lamest bionicle character has more thought put into it than Mario has ever had

[green loom]

I'm gonna do a study piece tomorrow

[dusk patrol]

And bionicle sucks

[storm jungle]

Jesus

you are pure trash

[green loom]

I wants to

Practice building

So I'm gonna draw Coteaz being hanged or sometihgng

[dusk patrol]

(I do love bionicle)

[celest dome]

MArio has better though of lore than half of the 40k character

[dusk patrol]

(but it also sucks)

[viral halo]

Alright I did Pratt research he goes to a historically anti-LGBT protestant church that a bunch of other famous people go to like Justin bieber

However he brushed it off saying he'd only been there once or twice

and his church is a diff one

[storm jungle]

yeah not surprised

im of the opinion that all churches should be blown up

anarchy must reign

[celest dome]

Emperess Dilara

[storm jungle]

lmfao

[dusk patrol]

And not just the Churchen

But the Churchomen, and the Churchildren

[viral halo]

(why do I get banned if I say this about other houses of worship in other discords)

Also @dusk patrol how dare you disrespect Garfield

[dusk patrol]

Get banned if you say they’re wrong, get banned if you say they’re right about women. Can’t win.

[viral halo]

Dilara is going to stab you

[green loom]

[dusk patrol]

Garfield is trash. It’s fun trash but it’s the lowest form of cartoon, jsut above those shitty Reddit comics who are trying to funnel people to their NSFW Patreon.

[viral halo]

Garfield is an American icon and is a beloved cat who eats lasagna

I will not have you spouting anti-Italian propaganda in the darktide lore chat

https://tenor.com/view/what's-that-smell-garfield-the-garfield-movie-what-is-that-smells-good-gif-1843931288991066133

How can you call this beloved creature trash

[celest dome]

I'll take Garfield over Peanut any day of the week

But best American news paper comics is Calvin and Hobbes

[green loom]

Twinks make leveling in WoW Remix very easy

[dusk patrol]

He’s cute for like five seconds in that movie

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-scary-garfield-scary-chainsaw-man-gif-8180799351162707192

[crystal forum]

poor cat's a cyclops

also how many people below the age of 30 have even read a single garfield strip

[plush mason]

i have

but

i turn 30 this year so lmao

[dense dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/picmix-idv-identity-v-idv-patient-emil-mesmer-gif-6823013175149935935

[versed ledge]

How many tech priests does it take to change a lightbulb?

[dusk patrol]

Trick question, they’d never change a lightbulb

[versed ledge]

Trick question, they forgot how to do so and fight a massive civil war over it

[tough haven]

It requires four to perform the ritual of rekindling

Unless of course it’s machine spirit had been angered, then the amount is based on how long since the ritual was performed last and…

[crystal forum]

you fool! you forgot the most important step!

lighting the incense, then preparing the sacred oils...

[tough haven]

Well that’s the first component of the ritual of rekindling

[crystal forum]

of course!
it's also the first part of the ritual of lasgun lens alignment, and the ritual of leman russ oil change, and the ritual of power fist dampening, and the ritual of...

[thick cedar]

If youre a Khorne worshipper, is retreating from battle a big no-no or is it acceptable?

[arctic talon]

It’s acceptable to khorne

It might not be acceptable to your leaders

Lol

[tough haven]

What do orks call necrons?

[tough haven]

It’s as the orks say “an’ if we lose we can always come back for anuvver go, so it don’t count”

[hallow basin]

Khorne is worshipped through bloodshed, so it's acceptable to retreat if you intend to continue commiting bloodshed

[tough haven]

Gotta live if you wanna kill

[crystal forum]

wouldn't khorne regard his demons as p*ssies if they run away from a fight when they literally can just return to the warp when they die

[green loom]

Everything goes as long as you kill people at all at any point somewhere

[arctic talon]

Different rules for daemons tbh

[green loom]

Also the daemons kinda just

Wouldn't

[arctic talon]

^

[crystal forum]

i hate the "unkillable" demon rule so much

[arctic talon]

Demons only run when faced with true death

Tbh

That’s the only way they feel fear

[crystal forum]

what can actually kill a demon

[green loom]

Or they're dealing with something like the Anchorite

[arctic talon]

Sufficiently powerful psyker, sufficiently powerful blank, emperors sword

[crystal forum]

other than kaldor draigo

[arctic talon]

Sufficiently powerful act of faith

[crystal forum]

do grey knights always perma kill demons?

[arctic talon]

It depends

[green loom]

I think if you use sufficiently powerful symbolism it might just perma kill them lol

[tough haven]

Use of its true name

[crystal forum]

wait that's real?

[green loom]

Ye

[arctic talon]

True name if used properly can be used to kill a daemon permanently

Emphasis on properly

It’s often used for banishment because killing a daemon with its true name is

Hard

[crystal forum]

bruh just get a random number generator to do every combination of words possible and you kill all demons

[green loom]

So basically it's only Grey Knight territory and even then they have a limited window

[arctic talon]

Banishment is easier

Tbh

It’s why everyone resorts to it first

True death is what you do when you get the chance to do

[tough haven]

Me when I believe in the power of the human spirit and human capacity for good instead of some dude on a fancy chair

[arctic talon]

Otherwise focus on sending it back to the warp

Generally speaking grey knights can’t always perma kill a daemon but there’s examples

[crystal forum]

can chaos gods just say "nah" and stop a demon from ever dying

[arctic talon]

Yes

Sort of

The daemon needs to be relevant in some future prophecy woven into reality

Which prevents the daemon from properly dying a true death

A true death instead would just banish it for a long ass time instead

[crystal forum]

so what happens to a demon when it dies

[tough haven]

I guarantee a radical magos has attempted a machine to do this

[crystal forum]

does it go to super warp

[arctic talon]

It’s essence dissipates and gets absorbed

[tough haven]

The void

It’s just gone

[green loom]

You kinda just nuke the personality

[arctic talon]

I’m assuming you’re talking about true death

Correct?

Yeah you basically kill the daemon but not the energy of the daemon

That shit goes back into the warp

[crystal forum]

the idea that 40k has an actual afterlife and the warp is just some temporary bullshit that gets in the way

i like that

im sticking with it

[arctic talon]

Well

It had an actual afterlife

[green loom]

I feel like there's an argument to be made that a chaos god and it's daemons are one and the same

[arctic talon]

Thanks war in heaven

For ruining everything

Fucking frogs and robots

[green loom]

AOS sweep once more

It has all the afterlives

[arctic talon]

Sentenced to being turned into a night haunt

[crystal forum]

aos warp wins yet again

[arctic talon]

AoS doesn’t have the warp 🤓

also new skaven lore implies all Skaven share one soul

[green loom]

The Schworp

[arctic talon]

and are constantly fighting each other over chunks of it

[storm jungle]

The Ratorp

[arctic talon]

The horde of undead skaven flooding Shyish

because nagash forgot to install a fucking off switch

[crystal forum]

so if you take all skaven and condense them into a ball

do you get the super rat

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/mouse-running-late-cute-gif-14213395

[green loom]

You get the great horned rat

[arctic talon]

But the one of the main examples we have of a daemon surviving true death is a Great Unclean One

whos destined to still be present when the whole universe dies

[crystal forum]

of course it's nurgle related

[storm jungle]

he was too busy torturing innocent people and turning men and women who ran orphanges to child killing ghouls

[arctic talon]

Bro is like a giant clock megazord thing

lol

[crystal forum]

wait what

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Books get to be more creative

[crystal forum]

wont the galaxy be dust before we're even near universe death

[arctic talon]

But he's made out of a bunch of clocks and metal

[arctic talon]

Yep!

[storm jungle]

yeah but remember

40k authors dont read

[arctic talon]

he's destined to literally never die basically lol

also yeah 40k authors don't read tbh

I'd assume its more of a figurative thing as in

[storm jungle]

they basically throw these wordings out there

[arctic talon]

when all Sentient life is dead

[storm jungle]

without realising how dumb/ridiculous it is

[arctic talon]

more accurate it should just be like

Our galaxy being dead

either way he can't die until that moment lol

[crystal forum]

or nurgle dying i guess

[arctic talon]

yeah that also

[crystal forum]

no more living souls

[arctic talon]

and its also why he's the first Great Unclean one Ku'gath brought with him who tries to fight Guilliman

in a straight fight lol

[crystal forum]

so he can just walk onto terra

[storm jungle]

damn we got awhile

[arctic talon]

No

he'd prolly just get banished

[storm jungle]

^

Being timeless doesnt make you unstoppable

[arctic talon]

He's noted as being very sloppy at fighting

[crystal forum]

those andromeda fuckers had it coming

[arctic talon]

because he's not afraid of fighting

or dying

[storm jungle]

mass effect andromeda was horrible i agree

[crystal forum]

get out of my way i'm driving a galaxy here

[arctic talon]

he's objectively a terrible combatant

he's just terrifying and intimidating because

giant fucking metal and flesh abomination that makes a bunch of clock and bell noises

[green loom]

What's his name again

Also haha marine excerpt

[storm jungle]

Small.

Get it

[rocky gale]

Just wait, the Orks will have somehow conquered the entire Andromeda Galaxy and they'll stick a big rocket to it to make it Impact the Milky Way faster

[crystal forum]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[storm jungle]

Honestly theres prob already orks in other galaxies

unless like

they die from literal boredom during travel between intergalactic space

[crystal forum]

could their fucking rocks even get there before the heat death of the universe

[tough haven]

What do orks call necrons

[storm jungle]

Tinboys

next question

[arctic talon]

Qaramar he's like a giant disgusting dragon creature

[tough haven]

There’s gotta be fun horrors in the space between stars

Nids?

[storm jungle]

Yeah like James Workshop

[arctic talon]

More nids

[crystal forum]

well there's nids

[arctic talon]

lol

prolly some necron crap

[storm jungle]

we do know theres other stuff out there

[arctic talon]

without an off switch

Orks

[tough haven]

Otherwise you can always have a few mutinies to cheer up da crew

[crystal forum]

nids supposedly having conquered other galaxies, die to bolters

[storm jungle]

I mean

Mongols conquered half of the world

[tough haven]

Fucking horrors when I hit them with a tiny rocket

[storm jungle]

died to infighting

[crystal forum]

how weak are these galaxies like damn

[storm jungle]

they didnt have plot armor

kinda hard to chew through

[arctic talon]

tbh

the nids are funny

[crystal forum]

you think old ones are just chilling in another galaxy

[arctic talon]

maybe one or two lol

[storm jungle]

We dont know

[arctic talon]

But we don't know

Nids are the beastmen of 40k

[tough haven]

They rolled poorly

[arctic talon]

except they get more respect then beastmen in WHFB

[storm jungle]

yeet

[tough haven]

You mean are just a plot device?

[arctic talon]

I mean they're cannon fodder

[green loom]

Tyranids seeing the Pharos

[arctic talon]

for everyone to kill

[storm jungle]

Nids arent really a plot device

[crystal forum]

they're fun to paint apparently

[storm jungle]

they are also way more liked than beastmen

[tough haven]

Well they’re a driving force for a lot of events and factions

[green loom]

I don't believe in fun

[storm jungle]

Thats basically every faction

[tough haven]

And like beastmen they’re something to kill

[storm jungle]

I MEAN

so are orks

[arctic talon]

every faction in 40k except for the Leagues of Votann

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

have been behind some major event

[tough haven]

Yeah but orks are funny

[arctic talon]

lol

[crystal forum]

orks have personality

also orks are fun

[tough haven]

Nids are occasionally funny

[crystal forum]

and give character to the franchise

[green loom]

I'm something to kill

[tough haven]

But usually are just ‘ungry

[storm jungle]

Yes thats kinda what they do

[arctic talon]

either way I think its almost depressing

how much beastmen get shit on

in WHFB and AoS lol

[storm jungle]

to be fair

[crystal forum]

like skaven minus the fun part

[storm jungle]

its really hard to make half-goat people cool

[arctic talon]

[tough haven]

Shiny….

[arctic talon]

AoS managed to finally make them cool

and then they blew up the faction

[crystal forum]

if nids could see the pharos and not the astronomicon do you think every navigator in the galaxy saw that flash

[arctic talon]

I think the nids prolly saw both

but its like hearing someone playing music

vs. someone blasting music right outside your window

[storm jungle]

They only percieved the astronomicon once they arrived in the milky way

its range is already limited

[crystal forum]

so the pharos had a ton of range

[arctic talon]

Im dumb ignore me

[storm jungle]

the Pharos was a massive flash since its an ancient alien tech mcguffin

[arctic talon]

Pharos got blown up

is why it attracted the nids

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

there were also already nids in the galaxy

just

less

[storm jungle]

sleeper cells mostly yeah

[arctic talon]

some sleeping ships

[crystal forum]

exactly so every navigator in the galaxy must have seen it too right

[green loom]

The Kraken

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[crystal forum]

imagine just navigating and FLASH

[storm jungle]

but thats not important

[arctic talon]

do not ask the space wolves what a fenrisian kraken baby looks like

[green loom]

I don't think it was limited to navigators, wasn't it a literal bright death flash

[crystal forum]

also just causally ignoring that something more powerful than the astro existed

[arctic talon]

I mean

[storm jungle]

I mean

welcome to 40k

[crystal forum]

yeah no we dont need that

[arctic talon]

weird mcguffin xenos tech

[storm jungle]

^

literally every book has one

[storm jungle]

better than traitors having it

[arctic talon]

if I had a nickle for every weird Xenos astronomicon equivelent

I'd have 2 nickles

[crystal forum]

it's fun to point out stop nerd emoji me

[storm jungle]

also again

why

[arctic talon]

which is weird because they both blew up and caused horrific death

[storm jungle]

do you expect

the imperium

to be smart

[green loom]

[crystal forum]

i dont expect anything

[arctic talon]

The one Angron smashed

[storm jungle]

you do

you damn whiner

[arctic talon]

or I guess Khorne

and then other one

[storm jungle]

mods ban this guy

[arctic talon]

[crystal forum]

😭

[green loom]

did you expect this

[arctic talon]

la cretura

[green loom]

[plush mason]

so what exactly are titan princepts? are they genetically engineer or something?

[storm jungle]

they are normal people who pilot titans

[crystal forum]

just guys who can survive the process and can use titans

they are very rare

a lot cant handle it

bigger the titan, harder it is

[plush mason]

so i assume becoming one is kinda like the ritual of becoming for the knights

[storm jungle]

They get what we refer to as "gamer moments"

[arctic talon]

They're someone with exceptionally strong force of will and a powerful soul

[green loom]

They're genetically engineered in that they're probably inbred

[arctic talon]

LOL

[rocky gale]

Knights aren't typically as connected as Princeps

[crystal forum]

nope, no lineage or anything. literally just luck like blanks

[arctic talon]

yeah also titan legions try to have more princeps

by having their princeps have kids

or moderatii have kids

[crystal forum]

they are supremely valuable to the imperium

[arctic talon]

Adeptus Mechanicus Eugenics moment

[green loom]

Aren't a lot of them pulled from knight houses

[rocky gale]

Knight Pilots can leave and abandon ship, Princeps usually get stuck in the Mountain Dew Gamer Pod

[plush mason]

i dont mean like that, just the ritual itself

where they link with the command throne of their suit

[arctic talon]

The ritual is you plug in and start praying your Titan is in a good mood

lol

[plush mason]

lol

[arctic talon]

not even a joke

[crystal forum]

it's not really a ritual it's just implanting the mechadendrite thingies

[plush mason]

ok

[crystal forum]

fun fact they go into your eyes

[arctic talon]

yeah you just jam the connection points in

[green loom]

Post the one sfmuser comic

[crystal forum]

they literally crawl under your eyeballs

[green loom]

Dilara knows what's up

[arctic talon]

depends on which connector tbf

[crystal forum]

im talking about dies irae

[plush mason]

so i assume the blank ones that piloted the psy-titans are all dead by the 42nd millennium?

[crystal forum]

that one come to mind often

[arctic talon]

yeah imperators you get some uh

[crystal forum]

fucking sickening

[arctic talon]

gross connections lol

so the titan doesn't

immedietly fry you

[arctic talon]

we don't know

I'd assume Ordo Siniser kept on recruiting

[crystal forum]

some princeps literally live in their titans in vats

[arctic talon]

or they have an in house eugenics program

either way being a Princeps/moderatii is a life of luxary by 40k standards

[crystal forum]

apparently the feeling you get from being a god machine can make you not want to be just a guy anymore

[arctic talon]

the downside is uh

being a princeps/moderatii

[green loom]

You're not ready for the titan crew polycule

[arctic talon]

LOL

[crystal forum]

pros: good working conditions
good salary
cozy desk

cons:
no freedom

[arctic talon]

pros: you actually get real food

cons: you're a titan pilot

[green loom]

It's not like you have freedom as almost any other imperial

[crystal forum]

your chances of dying are lowered drastically at least

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[plush mason]

so if the psy-titans still exist in 40k they could still be used technically?

[arctic talon]

If you die you can die knowing that everyone else around you is also going to die

lol

[crystal forum]

and the longer you live the bigger titans you can pilot sometimes

[arctic talon]

yes

either that or you get stuck as a moderatii forever

Which isn't the worst

[crystal forum]

better than front line duty

[arctic talon]

you just risk horrific death instead of insanely horrific death

[green loom]

I'm sure the custodes and sisters or silence can get them working again

[crystal forum]

that's if you die

which is a titan

[arctic talon]

tbf

you can die without the titan dying

Don't lose control lol

[crystal forum]

mechanicus would rather sacrifice 10000 skitarii over letting your titan die

you'll be fine

[arctic talon]

real and true

[plush mason]

isnt it rumored all the psy-titans where lost in the siege of terra?

[green loom]

We dunno

[arctic talon]

I have never read this

ngl

[crystal forum]

psy titans are a small lore thing

they're nothing

literally no models

[plush mason]

true

[arctic talon]

Well

they have models for Titanicus lol

[storm jungle]

https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/legions-imperialis-warlord-sinister-psi-titan-2023

[arctic talon]

they hand painted those fucking runes btw

[storm jungle]

99 POUNDS?

DAMN

[arctic talon]

Its like bigger then a questoris

iirc

[crystal forum]

HH

ignored

[storm jungle]

dingus

get him

[arctic talon]

nvm its the same size

Also ew

Legionies imperialis/j

[crystal forum]

10$ in resin

[plush mason]

damn thats a cool helmet

[arctic talon]

the psy titan is a plastic resin hybrid kit

iirc

[crystal forum]

mine is full resin

[arctic talon]

lol

[crystal forum]

still no fucking imperator in imperialis

[storm jungle]

It also uses live psykers as ammunition/power source

[arctic talon]

They're never going to make an imperialis for Titanicus

smh

[plush mason]

so like, is the left hand of darkness able to perma-kill daemons?

[storm jungle]

Not perma-kill, just vaporize instantly

[arctic talon]

tbh it might be able to perma kill a daemon

but most likely just instant banishment

[crystal forum]

hey john, i think that titan is aiming at u-

[plush mason]

i know it deletes the souls of anything in the path of it's beam

[crystal forum]

titans aiming at a single guy is peak comedy

target locked, firing on random fucking cultist

macro cannon sounds

[green loom]

What's the Left Hand of Darkness

[plush mason]

that one random imperial fist in the horus rising trailer must have really pissed off the titan crew lol

[arctic talon]

I think every secutarii should get a mag inverter shield

[green loom]

Is this what my grade school teachers warned me about when they saw I was left handed

[plush mason]

the main gun of the psy-titans

the one of the left arm

literally fires the soul of a psyker

[crystal forum]

seriously??!

[plush mason]

yup

[storm jungle]

I LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT

[plush mason]

its peak 40k edginess

[crystal forum]

it's on the left hand?? that's crazy

[arctic talon]

I want a d100 system in AoS

Yes I know I can just use WHF’s ttrpg

But I want an AoS specific one

[crystal forum]

these arent words

[green loom]

Who's D100

Is that like a rapper or something

[crystal forum]

a 100 sized die?

[green loom]

What a weird name

[arctic talon]

100 sided dice

More realistically it’s 2 D10s

[green loom]

Is he like a 50 cent fan

[crisp heath]

Was Horus always gonna be a traitor to the golden throne from his upbringing or was it caused by events after meeting space dad?

I know once Erebus it’s over

[crystal forum]

that's such a cop out

get a 100 sided die loser

[crisp heath]

But the emperor kinda sucks too

[crystal forum]

who tf knows, the chaos gods literally just showed him stuff that happened after the HH as if it's a futur he's supposed to stop

yet he causes it

what a dumbass

he got told that the emperor just wanted his imperium to be his or something and that horus deserves to lead it

it's really pathetic daddy issue stuff

the funniest part is that the emperor loved this idiot more than any human or even his other sons

[rose thorn]

The 40k version of brain rot is those videos that are like ‘a guardsmen actually gains the respect of a space marine,,,’ and then read fan fiction

[storm jungle]

I see that shit pop up on my feed so much holy fuck

never enough "Do not recommend" options

[green loom]

"Henry Cavill REJECTS the Woke Agenda!"
Bad edit of Cavill with WIN written in bold red over it

[crystal forum]

we're past that rn

so called die hard fans forgetting about being mad when their content sloppers arent telling them to be

[green loom]

They're useful for fishing for annoying people tbf

[soft thunder]

There any book or other stuff in the works for new Votan dwarf books lore?

[crystal forum]

one book

confirmed at least

[soft thunder]

i require more small funny man lore

[tough haven]

Unless they cite their source I assume it’s fan fiction

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

The problem is there is actual good content that follows that formula

[tough haven]

I’m a die easy fan, if I just like get stabbed or shot I’ll die, it’s not hard

[tough haven]

True

[rose thorn]

like uh, the coffee one

[tough haven]

Me but for ratlings

I also want more blackstone content with rein and raus and UR-25 or whatever his name is, I don’t remember

I love all those characters

[rose thorn]

Good news most of them are being repackaged into other armies

I wanna make a rogue trader themed army so bad

With the new box

[tiny coyote]

question for the lore ppl

are there many overlapping characters between 40k and fantasy- the only i know of are skarbrand and belakor but from what ive heard 40k belakor is very different from how i know him from fantasy

[rose thorn]

In lore, zero, in fantasy/AOS all the demons in 40k are in AOS

They are different characters and settings and technically have zero overlap, but like

Irl

Every named demon in 40k is in AOS

[tiny coyote]

yh i dont mean like literally hello i have magically appeared in the endtimes, i mean more just shared names and themes

[tiny coyote]

ohh ok ty

[rose thorn]

Except uh

Vashtor and the named demon princes

[tiny coyote]

it was in 40k that skarbrand tried throwing hands with khorne cos of tzeentch right?

[rose thorn]

Both settings

[tiny coyote]

oh same story in both? like the whole 8 days flying type stuff?

[rose thorn]

Yup

[tiny coyote]

oh cool ty

last question whats belakor like in 40k ive heard hes alot dif than he is in fantasy ive heard he has the same origin i think tho

[arctic talon]

He's the first daemon prince ever, he is explictly Not a human

or Eldar

[tiny coyote]

doesn't he predate humans ect ive heard?

[arctic talon]

Yep

generally speaking he's much more free then he was in WHFB or AoS

he has his own group know as The disciples of be'lakor

[tiny coyote]

remember reading smth about how he kinda got disowned abit for tryna trick the main 4

[arctic talon]

his general goal is trying to ascend to the 5th chaos god

[tiny coyote]

intresting are there more undivided princes like him ik theyre rare because of the stunt he pulled but i havent really heard of others like him

[arctic talon]

They're generally rare but yes undivided princes exist

There's one who leads the largest group of nightlords, Lorgar and Perturabo are both undivided daemon princes

[tiny coyote]

ooh i knew about lorgar didnt know perturabo was undivided tho ig i never thought about it to much

[versed ledge]

So does a standard pattern predator tank of an auto-loader? Or do they require a marine still be the loader?

[tiny coyote]

was horus/abaddon undivided aswell?

[arctic talon]

neither of them are daemon princes

but both are Chaos undivided yes

[rose thorn]

undivided as in they blue ball chaos to get what they want

[arctic talon]

LOL

real

[tiny coyote]

yh i recall seeing that horus thought of them more as a "tool" if anything so ig that counts as undivided

[fallen plaza]

Well the main cannon is called an autocannon so, i guess we assume it is

[celest dome]

Undivided can mean 2 different things:

• People who never pledged to a specific Chaos god (Eg: Perturabo)
• People who got support of all main chaos gods (Eg: Archaon, Horus and Be'lakor)

[arctic talon]

Wonder if we’ll ever see a daemon prince of a minor god

Not Malice

Bro is literally weaker then Vashtorr

[fallen plaza]

There was another chaos God of atheism if I remember correctly

But that is even more obscure

[celest dome]

Doubt we will, they are even less relevant than they were in fantasy

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-dancing-guy-cringe-gif-3173535023585082338

[storm jungle]

holy shit its Big E

[plush mason]

lol

[versed ledge]

Are there any traitor Marines that aren't chaos worshippers and only rebelled for legitimate reasons with the imperium being the imperium

[fallen plaza]

Night lords, iron warriors, astral claws, and like, most of the chapters that participated in the abyssal crusade.

[dusk patrol]

Literally all of those

Are chaos worshipper marines

[rocky gale]

One typically ends up becoming the other

[dusk patrol]

But yes rogue elements tend to fall to chaos or die off fast

Kinda hard to survive without a support system

[rocky gale]

But you're probably thinking of Renegades rather than Traitor Marines, they've got different distinctions

and as said, Renegades usually die or end up becoming Traitors

But one worth mentioning are the Knights of Blood, Blood Angels successors who's red thirst was so powerful that it overwhelms them and led to them being declared Renegades, they still kept fighting to defend the Imperium though, just while avoiding other Imperial forces.