40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

mostly since she herself is like

scaled for level 16 players?

and then you throw bel's datasheet in

whos scaled for level 16 players as well

and then the horde of fucking devils

• the constant stream of reinforcments

[queen laurel]

This sounds like a type of thing a forever dm whose tired of being a forever dm would make

[arctic talon]

its something incredibly silly you can try running

you shouldn't

but you could run it lol

her descent to avernus fight is good though

[queen laurel]

I could make it so that when the bard tries seduce he has to roll to not get sent to avernus because of a curse

[arctic talon]

even though it doesn't even happen in universe and she has her sword again

[wraith quartz]

Right back to the warp, so how FUCKED did humanity get when the warp got all funky. And what caused the warp to do that?

If you guys are still awake

[arctic talon]

Humanity literally collapsed during the age of strife

what caused the warp to do that was most likely a mass psychic awakening

[wraith quartz]

Hmm, mmm

[crystal forum]

it's hard to describe in words how bad the age of strife was

[wraith quartz]

Ok so on the scale of 1-10 how bad was it?

[crystal forum]

i was lead to believe for the longest time that when the unification wars happened it was kinda like what the age of strife was like

but no the emperor emerged much after all the fucked up shit

the wars during the age of strife are literally unimaginable

horrors beyond our comprehension

[fallen plaza]

Mainly because there isn't much written on it

Gotta wait for the next 50 book slop fest

[crystal forum]

i legit would care more about a fleshed out dark age/age of strife over wherever the fuck GW is going with dark imperium

this shit is getting stale

[wraith quartz]

Mmmm, hmmm

So did the psykers go crazy during the beginning of the Strife?

[fallen plaza]

I personally don't think the age of strife is really that bad, within the context of humanity? Absolutely it's horrible but I think it's funnier to imagine that the emperor built all of the imperium to rise above it but because of the heresy the world is now worse than it was during the warlord era

[crystal forum]

so again that's the thing with age of strife

we're sorta lead to believe that pre unification wars earth was what it was like everywhere

since that's the earliest known history we can actually trace

[wraith quartz]

Unification wars?

[crystal forum]

when the emperor united earth

the earliest point in 40k history that isn't overly convoluted or dan abnetted

[wraith quartz]

Ok

I wanna wrap up a few things before we get to that part

[fallen plaza]

It definitely was dan abnetted though

There were some short stories on the chronicles of ursh

[crystal forum]

ffs

anyways age of strife was like beyond anything in 40k

not war in heaven level

but close

[wraith quartz]

So besides getting slaughtered, abandoned every other day. How were they able to survive that long??

[dusk patrol]

The Age of Strife was worse in a lot of ways

[crystal forum]

luck, isolation and literally being too backwards to rely on technology to survive

[dusk patrol]

It’s hard to stress how bad things got, and how long it lasted

[wraith quartz]

Given their advancements. What caused things to backfire and equally cause catastrophic loss of life??

[dusk patrol]

All warp travel shut down

[crystal forum]

the advancements themselves

[dusk patrol]

Daemons destroyed worlds

Men of Iron

Infighting

Lots of different things

[wraith quartz]

Like the technological advancements and any other new problems added to the plate

[crystal forum]

yeah

[dusk patrol]

There wasn’t one reason, humanity was many different factions

[crystal forum]

like just look at how dumb the imperium is right now. humanity got too reliant on STC's so when shit fucked up they were stranded

[wraith quartz]

Hmm, mmh

[crystal forum]

the only guys who survived relatively intact are votaan

and they rely entirely on their ancient STC's

[wraith quartz]

Hmm

[dusk patrol]

There was more to it than that but yes that happened for some

[wraith quartz]

So what happened to Ai, since it's not present in the current time line?

If you want to call it a night we can continue tomorrow morning...

[dusk patrol]

Men of Iron caused humanity to not trust it anymore

Too big a risk

[wraith quartz]

So, they like formed their own faction? What did they look like. (If there's concept art)

[dusk patrol]

It’s all vague and it wasn’t one thing

It was just destructive and terrible and it caused basically everyone to fear AI

[wraith quartz]

Ahh

Ok, it's pretty late we'll talk about humanity and the near end of Strife tomorrow

[outer wave]

I think the closest thing to what we know in terms of their appearance is UR-025

Considered to be the last of its kind

[wraith quartz]

Hmmm, ok

[fallen plaza]

*allegedly

[outer wave]

No clue about that tbh

[arctic talon]

The Excindo are part of the Dreadwing and we don't know wtf happened to them

[fallen plaza]

We don't even have models of them

And there rules in hh2.0 are horrendous

[rocky gale]

Too normal looking to be Admech

[shadow plover]

Votann maybe

[storm jungle]

Fishbait box…

[nocturne crest]

Is it for 40k or AoS?

[celest dome]

40k probably

Rumour Engine span all warhammer settings without notes to which it is from

Here’s a juicy rumour for you – we’ve heard that sometimes, in the far-off future of the 41st Millennium, people need to store things… inside other things. Boxes, if you will. Here comes one now.

Quote that is with the rumour

So deff. 40k

Could be Necromunda though

[rocky gale]

Brand new Necromunda fisherman model confirmed

But really I think it might be a Militarum mechanic

[green loom]

Dwarf drone

[raven stone]

Feels Necromunda

"People" implies very...civilian...side

[storm jungle]

Also the model looks good

[celest dome]

Does it
Are military not considered peoples ?

[storm jungle]

clearly not for mainline 40k

[crystal forum]

votaan, i'm calling it

[fallen plaza]

This looks like a cool model from what little I can see, so its probably necromunda, we can't have those in mainline 40k

[crystal forum]

might be tau

but im betting votaan

[rocky gale]

I think it also looks too normal for Votann

[crystal forum]

nobody else uses normal tools like that

[rocky gale]

Militarum

[crystal forum]

they dont have mechanics

[fallen plaza]

They fucking do

[crystal forum]

not on tabletop they dont

[rocky gale]

That's why it's a new model

[crystal forum]

they already have mechancus adepts rule wise

votaan have very normal looking tools

[rocky gale]

Yea but that's also kinda the point, Votann already have a mechanic unit with tools and shit

[crystal forum]

that's why im thinking maybe tau then

earth caste

that augment hand doesnt look very imperial

plus you just know there would be an aquila somewhere

[storm jungle]

earth caste got actual tech

not fucking wrenches and shit

[crystal forum]

they need places to put that tech

hence, toolbox

you're all missing the fact that the hand looks tau

[rocky gale]

It doesn't

Tau have three fingers

[crystal forum]

less than usual!

dont laugh at this guy's handicap

i'd be genuinely very surprised if this is militarum

[fallen plaza]

I'm surprised when these came out and no one called these space marine power packs

[crystal forum]

those type of flying models are so funny it looks like they have a really long fucked up leg

[crisp heath]

Something I had a question about, so khorne is a god of discipline, but a lot of his followers are blood hungry crazed berserkers what’s up with that?

[shadow plover]

first time I've heard him being the god of discipline, which makes very little sense to begin with

[storm jungle]

Hes not a god of dicipline, hes just a god of senseless slaughter and war

chaos gods have no "good" sides to them

Any boons they give you tend to be powerful but gross mutations and thats basically it.

[crisp heath]

Oh, I thought I heard he was the dude who will just never give up or quit no matter what

Which I thought meant discipline

[outer wave]

He is, but it's a chaotic version of it, so it's all kinda self contradictory and such

[storm jungle]

^

You dont need dicipline to never quit

you can just be a psychopath that wants to get that deed done no matter what or who stands infront of you

[outer wave]

Like he's honor as well, but not the honor we would admire normally

[storm jungle]

Yeah the kind of honor like

"Im gonna kill you first so you dont see me murdering this entire family once you're dead"

[crisp heath]

Will stab you always in the front, never in the back

But will REALLY stab you in the front hard

[outer wave]

Yep basically

And even then, IIRC, Bloodletters can apparently beg for their lives then stab you in the back

Someone can correct me on that if its wrong

[arctic talon]

I’ve never read that

[outer wave]

I thought that was in like 7th edition codex or something

I cant remember where I read that now that I think about it

Could've been 1d4chan

[arctic talon]

I don’t know daemon lore super well so

[outer wave]

Damn we cant verify

[fallen plaza]

Ah, now that is where we conclude it’s probably wrong

[outer wave]

Tbf I dont think alot of shit on that site is wrong lore wise but thats probably one of the few bits

[celest dome]

I think I've read the reverse, people begging Mercy from Bloodletter then getting backstab by said bloodletter after it had accepted it or something

[outer wave]

Huh weird that we read opposite happenings concerning such an event occuring

[queen laurel]

the slaughter stealth technique

No one saw me because all of them are dead

[green loom]

So that boycott is going great

[storm jungle]

Pretty messed up

😔

[celest dome]

@green loom https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/07/30/warhammer-40000-speed-freeks-rev-your-engines-as-this-orky-extravaganza-enters-early-access/

Early access for Speed Freeks

[crystal forum]

clearly they need to increase the model prices again

[outer wave]

Man I should learn how 3D printing and all that works

[versed ledge]

So lads, if you heard this quote:
"Seek the greatest of pleasures and enjoy the finest of comedies and stories found in all things"

What would you assume of them?

[outer wave]

Seem like a cool guy

[versed ledge]

that he is a cool guy

[outer wave]

Damn what a cool guy!!!

[wraith quartz]

Howdy, I'm pretty sure most of the scriers missed my anecdote last night, so I linked in this chat. To summarize it. The main big topic discussion is about humanity (as a whole). Right now where we left off, we started in the Space Age and now currently wrapping up the topic question about the Age of Strife.

[celest dome]

Did think hedonist, so match

[storm jungle]

whats up

[fallen plaza]

Ayo guys

Got me first Gundam

[outer wave]

Lets goooo

[fallen plaza]

I'm saying this because I'm curious on how to paint certain things

When you paint the joints or anything articulate do you all paint it while it's in the sprue?

Or is it cool to paint it assembled

[wraith quartz]

.....

From what I've learned, most of Humanity's "old" history reflects our irl history. But to simplify things I just want to know from humanity's previous peak (The Space Age) to the current age in WH40k.
In the Space we were able to explore the galaxy, have encountered the warp, psykers were present before the Strife, and we were having a "jolly good time"

In the beginning of the Age of Strife. Things were pretty much broken, and humanity is pretty much receiving the chaos from the back end.

.....

[fallen plaza]

.....

[rocky gale]

Age of Strife isn't really much to do with Chaos tbh

[fallen plaza]

I don't think that's what he meant by chaos

[wraith quartz]

Thank you

[fallen plaza]

I think he meant just chaos as in, out of control

[rocky gale]

Oh

[wraith quartz]

Lost my train of thought

Hold on...

.....

Ok

[fallen plaza]

You could have written this all in a doc you know

Or at least, write it there and copy paste it here

[wraith quartz]

I'm asking questions not writing an anecdote

[rocky gale]

Age of Strife is basically

Eldar become super decadent which causes more warp storms making travel harder, Men of Iron rebel causing a massive war for Mankind, Warpstorms get so bad that mankind can't travel for thousands of years, Eldar Society decays to a point where Slaanesh is born, Slaanesh eats 95% of all Eldar and the Storms end and thus ends the Age of Strife

[fallen plaza]

Well it might as well be one considering we still haven't gotten to the question yet, saves everyone the trouble to just right it all in one go

My friends used to argue in paragraphs all the time

And they took there time

So take yours

[wraith quartz]

Ok

clears throat
Thank you again for your patience.
For further clarification, in the Age of Strife, I'm more interested in humanity's struggle through it and any major plot points that relate to them.

So, in the Age of Strife. How did most of humanity's population was able to survive through it in our Main (original/home) Solar system?

[fallen plaza]

Think, China's warlord era, but epic, but scary, and also epic. And mad Max.

[wraith quartz]

Hmm, mmh

[fallen plaza]

But with like magic and stuff

And Chinese too

[wraith quartz]

So were there other threats that prey on humanity when they were at their most vulnerable??

[fallen plaza]

There were instances of primitive warp magic during the age of strife

So naturally a lot of it backfired

[wraith quartz]

Hmm, mmh

[fallen plaza]

Mmmmhhh mmmmm...... 💋😩

[storm jungle]

zesty ass

[wraith quartz]

I prefer to use that term,"hmmm, mmh", for informational recording and acknowledgement of data. Kindly don't make it weird...

[fallen plaza]

Stfu he started it

[outer wave]

We can't tell anyone about this.

[crystal forum]

i'm interested

[fallen plaza]

If anyone asked you if I did it, tell them no, I can't risk being associated with a FILTHY pig like you

[wraith quartz]

Right, so most of humanity was separated from each other, regressed back to a near Iron/Stone Age (Mad Max Style). And have pretty much lost most forms of hope.

[fallen plaza]

*but epic, and magic

[crystal forum]

they still had technology in a lot of places they just didnt know how it worked

[fallen plaza]

*and chinese

[crystal forum]

also technology in 40k is just magic wobbly woo

dont take the term literally

[wraith quartz]

Hence why they almost reverted back to the Iron/Stone Age

[fallen plaza]

No not really

[storm jungle]

It depends

[fallen plaza]

Oh shit I forgot

[storm jungle]

Every lost human planet had some form of primitive or advanced technology

[storm jungle]

so the answer is again this lol

[fallen plaza]

*It Depends™

[storm jungle]

its literally the answer, tf do you want me to say lmao

Some are literal cavemen while others got robots for bodies

[wraith quartz]

So in their Darkest hour....

[storm jungle]

theres no definitive societal norm

[fallen plaza]

You fucking forgot the ™ you FUCK

RAHHH

[crystal forum]

there's planets that literally have cave men

and planets that have interstellar empires

[storm jungle]

Yeah

thats what I said

[wraith quartz]

I mean along came the Emperor

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

He then began an galactic jihad

killed billions of humans/aliens

etc etc

[fallen plaza]

Jihad is the perfect term for this

[storm jungle]

Well yeah it was a literal holy war minus the religious bits

also straight up lifted from Dune too

[fallen plaza]

Considering the superficial elements the imperium of man has to the funny religion in the middle of the east

[wraith quartz]

So how did the Emperor save Humanity (Starting mostly in the solar system)

[storm jungle]

not really tbh

jihad is just the best term for a holy war people are familiar with

[celest dome]

minus the 'regular' religious bits
With instead new type of religious bits

[storm jungle]

He just sent astartes around the galaxy

subjugated planets

made them comply

it was a speedrun

[fallen plaza]

No one remembers the old 100

But I do

[celest dome]

define 'save'

[fallen plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/sewerslvt-they-dont-know-gif-24242735

[crystal forum]

he emerged, met malcador, created thunder warriors, did unifications wars, made peace with mars, etc

[fallen plaza]

And then SEX

[crystal forum]

now you might be wondering why the emperor didn't prevent the age of strife to begin with

[wraith quartz]

I'm asking how did he reunite earth and claimed himself as 'Emperor of Mankind"

[crystal forum]

well the answer is fuck you

[storm jungle]

What Jay said above

kill everyone

climb to the top of the mountain

declare "i win"

[celest dome]

Warlord in a war crime speedrun competition

[storm jungle]

Also he was a literal man, you cannot exactly stop a galactic crisis event lol

[crystal forum]

stop telling me he's a man

he's more powerful than the strongest eldar psyker

probably

[wraith quartz]

A very powerful man, but we'll talk about it sometime later

[storm jungle]

Not really

hes just a strong mega-psyker

what is he gonna do to stop the psychic emergence

[fallen plaza]

He is the biggest baddest of dem all

[crystal forum]

warn humanity

[celest dome]

Why would he

[crystal forum]

but the emperor isnt good at warning people

[storm jungle]

And no one would listen

[celest dome]

Age of Strife benefited him

[fallen plaza]

Think fast chucklenutz

[storm jungle]

we are going through global catastrophes rn and people still dont care

so lol

[crystal forum]

see that's the thing either the emperor is the most self absorbed piece of shit to ever exist or he was just stupid

[celest dome]

The Emperor doesn't want what is good for Humanity, it wans to have Humanity under its hand

[fallen plaza]

Idk about that

[crystal forum]

like imagine the emperor living during the most peaceful period of the galaxy and thinking "this isn't what i want" and just hiding in his man cave

[storm jungle]

hes both.

hes as smart as the plot allows him to be

which isnt a lot

lol

[fallen plaza]

He has stated he has wanted to hand the imperium the humanity multiple times

[crystal forum]

sure so he created primarchs

definitely something somebody would do if they wanted democracy

[storm jungle]

Lol this too

Primarchs make no sense in general

but they exist because lore

[fallen plaza]

The idea is supposedly it's to smoothen the workload for him

But apparently not

[celest dome]

If the Emperor only cared for Humanity, they wouldn't have gone the way he did, neither before the Great Crusade, neither before the Age of Strife

[storm jungle]

Yeah hes more or less was the guy with the biggest stick at the time

hes not a destined savior, just a guy who thinks hes right in everything

[fallen plaza]

This shit is why I am a servant of sigmar

Half the time I don't even know what the emperor is supposed to be

[crystal forum]

nobody does

[storm jungle]

Sigmar is literally just a barbarian himbo trying to do the right thing.

Even with his failings he still is pretty much a good person

[fallen plaza]

I wouldn't mind an ambiguous leader with interpital goals

But no

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much lol

[fallen plaza]

He's either evil, or stupid, or both or misunderstood

Like I don't fucking know

[crystal forum]

he's misunderstood by people who praise him

[storm jungle]

Alarielle in AOS once says maybe "us" being destroyed by the Chaos Gods is just a natural cycle we need to adhere to as a radom thought

and Sigmar is like

[celest dome]

Self Serving, imperfect, spiteful, and many more

[storm jungle]

"Yeah not fucking happening on my watch. Never again."

[fallen plaza]

Luv me sigmar

Luv me empire

[celest dome]

In a weird way, she might not be fully wrong, but even if death is a natural proceeding of life, should we noght fight against it

[storm jungle]

Yeah the problem is shes a bit biased POV wise

[celest dome]

Before someone talk about him: Shut up Nagash

[storm jungle]

since shes a god of nature now and she sees it as a "natural cycle"

Sigmar is like "Nah"

[fallen plaza]

Fuk them ulricans

They can eat SHIT

[celest dome]

If we take the Great Game it could be such a case

[crystal forum]

people act like when roboute met the emperor he learned something deep when he probably just realize how much of a piece of shit his father was

[rose thorn]

Shout out to her for not completely slaughtering the Sylvaneth that kinda sorta betrayed her

[storm jungle]

shes merciful

[rose thorn]

Very rare

[storm jungle]

mostly

[storm jungle]

He kinda always knew deep down

as he said he only has one father

and thats Konor Guilliman

[wraith quartz]

I'm back, sorry for being afk, so I remember correctly when I read about the Elyssiarchy. Humanity basically worshiped him as God when he came to save him?

[storm jungle]

Uh not yet

it developed slowly

[wraith quartz]

Ah

[storm jungle]

mostly through the course of the Great Crusade

[crystal forum]

a few did but it was illegal

[storm jungle]

since he actively pushed down religious ideas when he saw it

[crystal forum]

lorgar the word fucker got in trouble for it

only time lorgar is relevant

[fallen plaza]

Lol monarchia, lmao.

[crystal forum]

emperor when he sees people worship him
fetch me their souls

[wraith quartz]

So during the Emperor's conquest to reunite humanity. What time (or Era) significantly started the "Golden Age"

[storm jungle]

never

that was before his time

[crystal forum]

golden age and dark age mean the same thing. it's before age of strife

[storm jungle]

Dark Age of Technology = Golden Age

[crystal forum]

it's a play on how some humans see that period

[rose thorn]

She has to come in every few months to keel the Sylvaneth from completely bodying grey water 😭

[storm jungle]

the "dark age" basically is a title the Imperium slapped on it due to thinking the humans from that era for fools for dealing with technology, AI, and you know being sensible human beings thus they were cast down for it when thats in reality just the Imperium's backwards medieval thinking talking

[wraith quartz]

Ok, soo.... Then how we discuss the time period between the Emperor's reclamation of Mankind and before the start of the "Heresy'

[crystal forum]

there wasn't much time between the great crusades and the horus heresy. the imperium never really had a golden age

[storm jungle]

Unification of Terra

Great Crusade

Horus Heresy

it wasnt that long of a period in general

[crystal forum]

it's kinda funny how the imperium was always shitty

but the great crusade era was probably the least shitty if you were human and compliant

[storm jungle]

Kinda.

The Imperium was largely the same

[wraith quartz]

So what were the key major factions that were necessary to Unite Terra

[storm jungle]

it just had no religion

[storm jungle]

The Emperor's army, the thunder warriors (proto astartes) and the custodians.

[crystal forum]

mechanicus

[storm jungle]

admech werent present

[crystal forum]

oh unite terra

[wraith quartz]

Hmmm, mmmh

[storm jungle]

they were cotnacted post-unification

[crystal forum]

yeah it's after unification

thunder warriors are credited as having won the unification wars

[wraith quartz]

So who are these thunder warriors, how come we don't see them present time??

[crystal forum]

but emperor purged them

because they were unstable

some survived

[celest dome]

Purged by SM

[crystal forum]

during their last battle

the imperium was lead to believe they all died in one last struggle to win terra

but emperor killed them

[storm jungle]

Prototype space marines that were made from adult participants and total psychopaths who had rough genetic enhancements that made them die in droves but slaughter their way through billions of people

[wraith quartz]

Ah

[storm jungle]

they were too unstable and the Emperor purged them during the final battle for terra on Ağrı Mountain (an actual IRL place here) and then said they died bravely in battle

they then moved all that combat data to making proper astartes before the Crusade started

[wraith quartz]

Hmmm, hmmm

[crystal forum]

mind you the first astartes were made from primarch genes even though the primarchs werent around

but that's a longer story

and custodes were around this whole time

[wraith quartz]

So at the beginning of the crusade, The Emperor went to the Cult Mechanicus for help?

[storm jungle]

Yeah since Mars is pretty "close" in our solar system

[crystal forum]

yes mars is next door

mars had just finished its own civil war

[wraith quartz]

If I remember correctly it was with mutants or something...

[crystal forum]

it was pretty much a battle royale

and the cult mechanicus won

[wraith quartz]

Ah

[crystal forum]

after mars the timeline gets muddled

[wraith quartz]

So humanity as a whole was beginning to be well off with the emperor before the start of the heresy.

[storm jungle]

It depended on the world

• Some were harrassed by aliens or other humans
• Some were living in peace
• Some were dead
• Some were living in peace with other aliens

[crystal forum]

we're talking millions of planets too just for scale

[celest dome]

Some were starting to expand on their own

[storm jungle]

The Emperor just had the whole concept of Manifest Destiny on his mind and that humanity was to rule the galaxy

[storm jungle]

also this yeah

its important to remember 90% of the Great Crusade was a conquest

[celest dome]

To rule, but under his teaching

[wraith quartz]

Aaahh, huuuhhh

[crystal forum]

the size of pre imperium humanity is impossible to tell but it was extremely vast

even in the 41st millenium there's parts of the galaxy that havent been contacted

the fringes of the galaxy especially

[celest dome]

And the center of it

Where the Leagues of Votann are from

[wraith quartz]

So let's talk about vendettas...
Given that humanity was buttfudge in the Age of Strife.
They developed a sense of grudge on anything that threatened them.

[celest dome]

Depend on the world

[crystal forum]

all we know is humanity killed *most aliens on sight during the great crusade

[celest dome]

Xenophobia come mostly from the teaching of the Imperium as other groups weren't that way

[crystal forum]

the haruspex be like

[wraith quartz]

Hmmm
So were they ever betrayed by aliens for being human??

[crystal forum]

as a whole?

[celest dome]

Yes, some did, but in the same way that some human have backstabbed xenos before

[wraith quartz]

Hmm, mmh

[crystal forum]

like orks were at *peace with humanity during the dark age but the moment they had the opportunity they attacked

but there's also so many alien races in 40k that have either been wiped out by the imperium or are barely mentioned

tau empire for example could have been just a normal sight during the dark age. just a small species living its life

[wraith quartz]

So the Emperor's goal was to unite humanity (through manifest destiny), how was he going to maintain that unity outside of the bloodshed and submission?

What was his plan to keep humanity connected?

[crystal forum]

there's lots of fan theories and headcannons about that

like primarchs could have been the intended rulers

during peace

[wraith quartz]

Oh

[crystal forum]

we know for a fact that they werent created solely for war

at least not all of them

emperor was also experimenting with the webway i think

maybe as a means to do space travel without the warp

[wraith quartz]

Ok
Right so what was humanity's role in this grand plan. Did they have their own form of hierarchy where, obviously, The Emperor sits at the top of?

[crystal forum]

i think the high lords of terra existed back then but of course the emperor was above everybody

malcador was also pretty high up but he was more concerned with the administration

mechancus had their own special rights so they could do whatever they wanted

[storm jungle]

Yeah by Malcador his right hand man

every great empire needs its bureucracy

[storm jungle]

Also there was no "peace" with orks, thats a meme

[crystal forum]

nah

[storm jungle]

Yah

its a meme

orks were just mostly slapped away during DAOT

[crystal forum]

you know that got me thinking

orks when left to their own devices will get stronger and stronger

it's like they're designed to be uncontainable

[storm jungle]

Well yeah

they are a snowball bioweapon

they arent natural evolution lol

[crystal forum]

as opposed to nids who get stronger through conquest

slight difference

[wraith quartz]

At work we'll talk more tomorrow

[crystal forum]

it's just interesting to think that if humanity was powerful enough to contain them without spilling over then when the age of strife happened can you imagine the level of waaaaaugh that crashed out?

[storm jungle]

Well we already saw what happened

the War of the Beast and that one Super Ork that almsot killed the Emperor

(which apparently was not him faking it as per the author and he was legit gonna get stomped which is funny)

[crystal forum]

the beast comes from the age of strife?

i know literally nothing about that story

[storm jungle]

The Beast is just a random ork that grew to super strenght because plot

The Ullanor Ork's warboss Ulrak Urr (amazing name btw) was just another super ork that also developed from fighting a lot.

its why the Triumph at Ullanor is a big thing and marks the "end" of the Crusade for most imperials

[crystal forum]

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/gamma-ray-pistol
fuck it i made the model free so if any of you want a gamma pistol just get it

might as well get some following before i monetize my stuff

i think my next project will be the arc pistol

@storm jungle can i post my link in the minis channel since it's free

[storm jungle]

Yeah no rules against it

[crystal forum]

oh hey i just noticed the arc pistol's grip is literally the same as the gamma pistol

damn that saves me a lot of time

[tough haven]

anyone got the "abelard, cut off his balls" image?

[leaden pilot]

this one?

[tough haven]

yes please

if only it was a gif

tech priests be like

[hallow saddle]

mars is cooked

[tough haven]

they do kinda talk like that and I love it

[crystal forum]

it's kinda disheartening to not have a single download for something free that took me a month to make but at the same time i know some mechanicus lover out there will thank the stars that somebody made his favorite niche weapon

now how tf do arc weapons work

do they just send eletricity

how do you even aim such a weapon

[tough haven]

Pray to the omnissiah

I believe they fire a micro slug of conductive material to guide it

[tough haven]

If I did anything that required 3d modeling I would love to have it

Btw speaking of mechanicus, anyone know of any good voice chanigng softwares for techpriest/vox sounding stuff? I'm trying to play as a tech priest in a online ttrpg

[crystal forum]

hell yeah got my first download

it's only uphill from here boys

[arctic talon]

You point it at a target, it somehow locks onto it and it shoots a lighting bolt

[green loom]

I know a dude who'd devour an arc rifle probably

[crystal forum]

i'm making an arc pistol if he's interested

[green loom]

We'll see

[crystal forum]

i will try to make an arc rifle because i appreciate you ed

[green loom]

Oh I haven't asked them lol

Though if we're being real the rifle will just he the pistol but longer so do that first

As in, the pistol

[crystal forum]

yesss that's the plan

[crystal forum]

@arctic talon is this official art

why is the top thing round instead of angular like in every other representation

[arctic talon]

This is official art, idk why it’s round

It’s actually not rectangular on the mini

Guess it’s just the odd one out

[crystal forum]

heheheh so you're saying i'll have a rare accurate model?

all the other cosplay ones i see a rectangular thing

[arctic talon]

Yes

[crystal forum]

hell yeah market found

[green loom]

That does look round

Rifles are blocky doe

If I recall Mechanicus has them blocky which I imagine a lot of people reference

[dusk patrol]

Hah, the lore nerd is trying to explain the nonsensical design decisions of some intern at GW almost a decade ago!

[dusk patrol]

Never catch me doing that

[green loom]

[crystal forum]

is your pfp's jaw lore accurate

[tough haven]

Chimera squad?

Fairly decent game

[tough haven]

Btw was listening to the mechanicus soundtrack again, and does the song binary signal actually translate to anything in morse code/binary?

[fallen plaza]

You sucker, should have made it paid

[shell barn]

I dunno the lore. What’s the joke about Dorn having the ‘tism

[celest dome]

All the primarch are

[remote blaze]

An invisible laser ionizes the air in a direct path, which the ensuing electrical charge follows to the target.

[fallen plaza]

He has no sense of humor, and is bland

[dusk patrol]

Tbh it’s mostly no one reads the fucking books

And think TTS is a accurate take on him

He’s a little more mild mannered than his other brothers but he’s still a leader whose capable of turning on the charisma and rallying people if needed, and has a pretty bad temper when he’s angered. He’s just forced to be the bedrock of the siege so he can’t really do a lot while Jaghatai and Sanguinius do more frontline stuff.

[remote blaze]

He is the fortress.

[dusk patrol]

The heresy also kinda breaks him and he has to adjust to warp bullshit and all that being used

And he has Sigismund who finds religion which embarrasses and angers him

Since that’s his first captain

[remote blaze]

He comes around before the end

[storm jungle]

Team Fortress???

[remote blaze]

That's right, Dorn was the heavy all along

[storm jungle]

damn no wonder hes cringe

[fallen plaza]

Coming in the with the wrong opinions as always dilly

[storm jungle]

If I want a primarch whos personality is so bland I gotta dig through a literal coalmine of books to find rare examples of him not being a literal wooden plank then nah

down with all Imperial Fist fans

[forest orbit]

LMAO

when you're right you're right

[storm jungle]

Dorn's popularity generally only comes from TTS because people dont know anything about him aside from reading his one-liner arnold schwarzenegger excerpts from Siege

[forest orbit]

Pretty much.

I started out as a Fists fan before getting into Templars, they are legit just boring as hell, even if they are not suppose to be too flashy/showy, just doesnt really work for me

[storm jungle]

When your most standing popularity beacon is Valrak that tends to happen 💀

[forest orbit]

Not our proudest hour ill admit

[storm jungle]

[forest orbit]

Damn I gotta steal that emote

[storm jungle]

feel free lol

yoink

do it

[forest orbit]

I did. Not my proudest hour 😔

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

New thing
Bad

[fallen plaza]

Real and true

[green loom]

Old thing was so good

But new thing? Bad

[fallen plaza]

I miss having lead in my body instead of microplastics

[storm jungle]

what the FUCK is the new thing

[green loom]

Idk but my favourite YouTuber told me it's bad

[storm jungle]

i didnt know you watched majorkill

[fallen plaza]

🤮

[storm jungle]

why are you giving blowjob to shrek

[fallen plaza]

How clever of you

😒

[storm jungle]

Keep coping rip van winkle

[fallen plaza]

Where did that come from you dilly billy

I am neither old nor eepy

[green loom]

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-rip-rhino-toy-gif-23656797

[green loom]

[fallen plaza]

Lmao, a screen recorded gif

[dense dawn]

Metal gear rising

[amber night]

do anyone know what perty is up to these days?

[storm jungle]

Chilling in Medrengard and making his boys go attack the Imperium

pretty much what every chaos primarch does

[amber night]

fuck

will he participate in the great game ?

or since he belongs to undivided , he is a death merchant offering technologies?

[amber night]

really, is he actively doing or neutral?

[fallow trellis]

active

[storm jungle]

neutral?

[fallow trellis]

netural

[storm jungle]

wut

[fallow trellis]

he is demon prince

no one remember ==

[storm jungle]

?

[fallow trellis]

perty is active ,he is a demon prince going out and destroy stuff

[amber night]

but i thought he pulled out of the siege meaning he has no intentions of fucking with the imperium

howeveri do get he is a deamon prince afterall, he got do some shady shit

is he building anything ?

did he ever offically ascend ?

[storm jungle]

He pulled out the Siege because it wasnt a fair battle anymore

everyone was using daemons or going psychopathic and not following plans

it wasnt a proper war anymore

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[amber night]

umm

did he got buffed at all ?

[storm jungle]

Hes a daemon prince.

take a guess

[amber night]

i guess so

why he did get into with morty?

[storm jungle]

Because they are chaos lords + siblings

[fallow trellis]

latest story it was recently proof most traitor primarch is alive and all are demon prince

[storm jungle]

they fight and got their own agendas

[amber night]

will he participate in the great game or he is gonna be a merchant for all sides?

[storm jungle]

Hes chaos undivided and all chaos worshippers participate in the great game the moment they adhere to the 4 gods

so basically yes to both

[fallow trellis]

yea

[amber night]

Got it . I heard he got some terminal illness from fulgrim, is he still suffering from that?

[storm jungle]

Nope.

Not mentioned once.

[fallow trellis]

vastorr currently 3 way war

could include perty if story get deeper

admech vs necron vs vashtor

[amber night]

does perty has any interaction with vashtor? since they are sort of engineers?

[storm jungle]

We got no interactions yet

[fallow trellis]

i think not yet

[fallen plaza]

When he gets a model expect a few

[amber night]

this is a stupid question, but does gaining terrority means directing gaining of power or its just more strategic(more land, more soldiers). Are there more powerful entities than the chaos gods in the warp, does gork and mork has any interaction with the 4 chao gods?

[amber night]

soon ?

[storm jungle]

No idea

[fallen plaza]

No

[fallow trellis]

tho when any building anything relate perty will comeout

[storm jungle]

hes got no faction in tabletop

that eliminates a big chance of him getting anything

[fallow trellis]

pretty sure all primarch stuff come out after model come out

[storm jungle]

Territory is mostly pointless aside from setting up shop in the Eye, its mostly just having your own area of space as a point to operate out of or own, power comes mostly from devoting stuff to the chaos gods/killing quadrillion of people for the funnies.

Theres implied to be powerful beings in the Warp but wer dont have enough knowledge to know much.

Gork and Mork have had interactions but it isnt a lot because they got no active space of their own in the Warp, they are pretty much spread through the entire ork race as a whole

[amber night]

Got it ,thank you for the detailed answers to all the questions

[amber night]

I meant for chaos factions like gaining land meaning more power ?

[fallow trellis]

REALLY WISH MORTY WAS IN DT

since u know its nurgle and all

or typhus

[storm jungle]

no

[storm jungle]

Its not really about physical land

planets in realspace/and the warp are just means to an end

they are just staging points for most chaos marine armies

most rarely stick around to rule them unless its to do with decadence or wanting to be a leader of something

[amber night]

So it’s more strategic, for positioning

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

its space, holding planets is costly in long term

[green loom]

~~Let's be real it's only because it wasn't his idea ~~

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

He sould've been given a hug, obviously would have fixed everything smh(No way he would view this in a negative light at all)

[celest dome]

Perturabo was celebrated though, and still was the pissant character that we know of, other than being declared best of the best and Warmaster or what ever, I don't think Perturabo would have been happy

[fallen plaza]

Horus heresy but written by viziepop

[storm jungle]

it wasnt already?

[fallen plaza]

Let the FUCKING galaxy FUCKING burn COCKSUCKERS

[storm jungle]

meanwhile actual HH books:

"Eat shit traitor."

everyone claps

[fallen plaza]

Kek

[crystal forum]

imagine horus heresy but instead of horus it's just some random other primarch who got chosen as warmaster

like alpharius or konrad curze

[rocky gale]

Warmaster Manus

[crystal forum]

picture this:
due to a series of odd events horus is incapable of leading the great crusade fleet, all the other primarchs are tied down to their own tasks so the title falls onto angron

[crystal forum]

ferrus manus warmaster would literally have never had a horus heresy happen to begin with

see that's the boring question: what if roboute, sanguinous or dorn were warmaster

all these primarchs are way too loyal to have anything fun happen

[hallow plover]

Who were the actual contenders for Warmaster?

Sanguinius or Lion?

[crystal forum]

as for who the emperor considered, it's only horus

but for popularity, sanguinius was a better choice for the other primarchs

[green loom]

I know who'd be warmaster

[crystal forum]

feels extremely stupid when you realize how one of the only reasons why horus was chosen was because of favoritism

emperor:
i want to unite humanity for humans, i'm only doing this for my love of humanity

also emperor:
i love my inhuman sons too much to reprimand them and i will entrust the future of the imperium i have built in the hands of these fucking psychos. also i will let my traitor son wound me

imagine a galaxy where humanity was left to rebuild itself after the age of strife without the intervention of the emperor

[fallen plaza]

Horus was technically kinda boring too before he fell

[storm jungle]

^

hes the perfect catalyst for the plot because he has no character aside from "Kinda swell but misguided primarch"

the Sons of Horus are also just a barbarian horde aesthetically and trope wise, perfect as goon fodder

[fallen plaza]

They have a sick color scheme

Heresy and crusade era schemes are really good

Pre heresy thousand sons is a highlight

[fallen plaza]

He was with the emperor the longest and had the best connections

[crystal forum]

he was boring because he wasn't super loyal and had doubts unlike the super loyal primarchs and the quirky futur chaos champions

[fallen plaza]

A lot of the other primarchs were either newer or were focused there own agendas or the ones given to them by emps

[crystal forum]

roboute doing jack shit

"call me when 40k happens so i can flagship this shitty franchise"

[storm jungle]

HE WAS LITERALLY MICRO-MANAGING SHIT

[crystal forum]

my headcannon is funnier

[shadow plover]

"What is Imperium Secundus"

[fallen plaza]

Robute was literally too busy to celebrate the triumph of ullanor

[crystal forum]

playing factorio

[fallen plaza]

Subjective

The invasion of calth was kinda cool

[storm jungle]

Nah Calth was great

even as a person who thinks HH is slop Calth is peak

mostly because again

Abnett

lol

The cover of the book also has Robot-G punching word bearers in zero gravity

so you know

[shadow plover]

too bad the prelude to it is the most boring shit

fucking abyss

[storm jungle]

LOL

SHUT UP ABOUT THAT USELESS AS BOOK

I do love how the ending tho is like

[fallen plaza]

Don't spoil

[storm jungle]

"Huh our champion died? Ok. Anyway so we are invading calth."

[fallen plaza]

Me no finish

[storm jungle]

Damn

spoilers for a 59 year old book

[crystal forum]

dont worry you're still young to me dilara

[fallen plaza]

Shaddap

[shadow plover]

I mean it's valid, HH2 release got a lot of new people to start the Heresy

[storm jungle]

Okay but

I dont care about peoples' HH experience

[shadow plover]

mean

[storm jungle]

always

[fallen plaza]

Die

[storm jungle]

also spoilers Horus dies

[storm jungle]

AAA-

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fly-fly-cat-gif-23967129

[crystal forum]

or does he

[fallen plaza]

For fuck sake

[crystal forum]

[storm jungle]

You joke

but the Emperor says he will see him soon

LOL

[crystal forum]

i like to think it's because he's dying too lol

[fallen plaza]

If they resurrect Horus I'm leaving this stupid fucking franchise

[storm jungle]

SDFKLSDKDSF

Horus is definitely not coming back due to Abaddon

but like... money is money

so who knows

[crystal forum]

dan the man giving himself job security

[shadow plover]

that is as likely as resurrecting Palpatine

wait

[crystal forum]

somehow palpatine returned

[storm jungle]

I cannot wait for Roboute to go "Somehow, Horus Lupercal has returned."

[rocky gale]

Hey apparently the entire last episode of HotD has leaked online

[fallen plaza]

Somehow Horus returned

[storm jungle]

Eyo

[rocky gale]

If any of you spoil it I'll cry

[storm jungle]

pass me a link

[shadow plover]

well they kinda did resurrect Horus but you know

[storm jungle]

oh damn it

[storm jungle]

that doesnt count!!!

[rocky gale]

I've not seenit yet

[shadow plover]

well twice

[rocky gale]

But it's all Social media

[storm jungle]

Yeah i need to find it

[hallow basin]

you mean like Dorn Herecy fanfic?

[crystal forum]

no

[fallen plaza]

mo

[crystal forum]

i just said none of those boring primarchs

[fallen plaza]

Caught misspelling

[storm jungle]

cow spelling, get em

[rocky gale]

Dornian heresy is also shit

[fallen plaza]

They are all boring you fuck

[shadow plover]

very

[storm jungle]

nobody would be saying this if it was the version of the Horus Heresy we know in this timeline

[fallen plaza]

No one in 30k gives a shit about primarchs

[rocky gale]

Ehhhh

[fallen plaza]

In fact they are often discouraged in tournaments

[storm jungle]

If I went to some seperate universe

and retold the HH we know

people would go "thats boring"

[rocky gale]

Ultramarines becoming the Tau is kinda dumb

[storm jungle]

oh

[rocky gale]

Because that's what they do in Dornian Heresy

[storm jungle]

i forgot that since it was so stupid

[crystal forum]

i mean come on imagine a conrad kurze HH

[hallow basin]

Eh, I find Dorn Herecy kinda curious the way it recontextualizes all of the key choices that primarchs made, resulting in all of them flipping sides

[storm jungle]

I love how it also makes the traitor primarchs loyalists through THE most sensible decisions

[rocky gale]

Except Dornian Heresy goes the wrong way a lot of the time

[fallen plaza]

I like the idea of nurgle blood angels

[rocky gale]

Like the reason Sanguinius goes heretical in Dornian Heresy is that he's not Sanguinius

[storm jungle]

Blood Angels should be corn

🌽

[queen laurel]

yeah i heard their gay corn was popular for some reason

[fallen plaza]

I like the idea of beautiful armor hiding grotesque flesh

[rocky gale]

Like he's raised by different people and has a different life and grows up differently, so he's not even Sanguinius

[fallen plaza]

It's cooler than nurgle in current 40k

[crystal forum]

this fanfic sucks

[celest dome]

Raven Guard should be Khorne
Wolf for Tzeentch
Salamander for Nurgle
Blood Angel or Iron hand for Slaanesh

[fallen plaza]

Which is just disease but gay

[rocky gale]

Nurgle Blood Angels is also the worst

[fallen plaza]

That's just too obvious

It's not very interesting

[rocky gale]

Slaanesh Blood Angels is the optimal choice

[fallen plaza]

No it isnt

[rocky gale]

It is

[storm jungle]

It is

get his ass guys

[crystal forum]

i guess iron hand slaanesh makes sense since they desire upgrades so much

[fallen plaza]

Bangles aren't emperors childreb

[celest dome]

Ye it is

[storm jungle]

kill him for my entertainment

[queen laurel]

maul him

[rocky gale]

Khorne wants Blood Angels, so Slaanesh steals them just to piss off Khorne

[celest dome]

[queen laurel]

eat his bones

[fallen plaza]

Nurgle blood angels is more interesting than slaanesh blood angels will ever be

[rocky gale]

Nope

[shadow plover]

okay putting it like that makes sense

[fallen plaza]

Hiding disease behind armor is a sick as hell concept at it's core

[celest dome]

That's cause Slaanesh never really got much focus yet

[rocky gale]

I did a whole rant piece on this, Nurgle is legit the least sensible option for Blood Angels

[celest dome]

Which has already been done in many media

[crystal forum]

nurgle ultramarines because they never fucking quit

[fallen plaza]

Quite

[rocky gale]

The ranking is Slaanesh - best option
Khorne - decent option, but too obvious
Tzeentch - Surprisingly interesting option that still works
Nurge - Huh that makes no sense?

[storm jungle]

It makes sense

Blood Angels fans are stinky!!!

[rocky gale]

Nuh

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

If we're going by absolutely horrendous by fans which space marine chapter is the best

[fallen plaza]

Solar auxilia

It's also the only guard regiment too

😁

[celest dome]

Worst are Wolf, followed closely by Dorn/Perturabo's

[crystal forum]

night lord fans because they dont exist

[shadow plover]

Wrong

[fallen plaza]

On the basis of what?

[celest dome]

Iron Hand and White Scar are smaller community

[rocky gale]

The word of god

[storm jungle]

Night Lords fans being only able to exist in this plane of existence because ADB wrote 3 books for them

[fallen plaza]

Well the lady in my head said nurgle bangles works so I said it does

[hallow plover]

lol

[shadow plover]

And we're thriving for it

[hallow plover]

feelsbad

[storm jungle]

LMAO

Im joking

i love how great the books are

[hallow plover]

NL are jobbers tho

[storm jungle]

then you look at any other NL content

and they just suck

they are like batman villains

[hallow plover]

They would get manhandled by word bearers

[shadow plover]

Right now on my second listenthrough of the trilogy, at a few chapters in the second book

[fallen plaza]

Iron hands about to do absolutely nothing

[crystal forum]

they'll look cool doing it though

[hallow plover]

IH got more books

:^)

[fallen plaza]

Raven guard are baller though

[crystal forum]

iron hands got one of the most interesting founding chapter dynamics but because they dont have a straight gimmick like the fallen they get nothing from one note authors, which is a good thing tbh

[fallen plaza]

They actually did something even after most of them fell during the dropsite massacre

[crystal forum]

better have nothing than bad thing

[queen laurel]

of course it's the wolfs

[crystal forum]

like salamanders heheh

[fallen plaza]

I treat salamanders fans like lamenters fans

They only like one thing and they just roll with it the whole time

They bring it up every time there chapter is mentioned

"Oh there so nice" "Oh there so sad"

[storm jungle]

I think my favorite covering of the Lamenters was ironically by Bricky.

He covers like 40m of lore, then goes:

"Yeah uh that was it. I thought there was more from the memes."

[crystal forum]

what would 40k even be without the fanfiction

[storm jungle]

as it is now

aka the same

[crystal forum]

no

[storm jungle]

yes

[rocky gale]

A friend of mine was going to write a lamenters story for that Black Library submission thing, I should check if she ever wrote it

[storm jungle]

[fallen plaza]

At least the Marines malevolent are midly interesting because of there actions as assholes

[storm jungle]

LOL

of course you'd say that shit

[crystal forum]

do minotaur fans exist

[storm jungle]

yes

just not a lot

[crystal forum]

i feel like they exist solely to piss people off

[storm jungle]

their faction is simple and straight to the point

they dont gloat

they dont bargain

they just kill and steal shit

its great

[fallen plaza]

Salamanders fans be like "erm they so nice" (Doesn't elaborate)

[crystal forum]

but for the high lords of terra of all things

like fucking why

[storm jungle]

Me when their own supplement says they got a company whos entire purpose is burning alive rioting hiver citizens

[fallen plaza]

Speaking of minotaurs

A chapter I want to like but is so boring is the red scorpions

There color scheme is just mwah

[crystal forum]

it's literally just a homebrew chapter that was made official

if minotaurs got any lore people would realize how stupid they are

[fallen plaza]

I mean who cares

[storm jungle]

They arent stupid

they are literal hired thugs

whats wrong with that lol

[fallen plaza]

If they didn't look that cool people wouldn't care lol

[storm jungle]

^

this is the reality of marine chapters

its why almost 90% of them are ones nobody ever remembers or mentions lol

when was the last fucking time you saw someone talk about Nova Marines

[shadow plover]

yesterday..

[storm jungle]

shut up!!!!

[shadow plover]

no wait, Monday

[fallen plaza]

If imperial fist weren't yellow they wouldn't keep writing about how there chapter masters keep dying

Think about that

[crystal forum]

they look like shit though

[celest dome]

Are they the blue and white one ?

[storm jungle]

Yep!

[fallen plaza]

Black and yellow is baller shut up

[crystal forum]

they're not even yellow

im talking about minotaurs

[fallen plaza]

Oh

Even more stupider take

Bronze is just a cool color on its own tf you on about

[celest dome]

Isn't it more bronze ?

[fallen plaza]

Yeah I said that

😁

[shadow plover]

[crystal forum]

metal colours are cheap they make anything look good

choose actual colours smh

[fallen plaza]

"Primary colors are cheap and make anything look good"

That's the level of silly that statement was

[storm jungle]

Chat, kill this simpleton NOW!!!

[queen laurel]

should i get the Jay skinner?

[storm jungle]

💀

[shadow plover]

Whatever, go my scarabs

[crystal forum]

literally slap auric armour on anything and it'll look good

also

[shadow plover]

Imma be real with you, making models look good with metallic colours is hard as balls

because just slapping a coat of any metallic paint will just look bad

[fallen plaza]

That's why most people paint non metallic metal

[crystal forum]

smh

[fallen plaza]

Pure metal looks ass, same with black

[queen laurel]

Black is one of those colors that you need to complement with another color to truly make it pop or have a clever use of to show or symbolize something to truly work

[fallen plaza]

So you gotta cheat a bit and make it technically "not pure black or metal"

[fallen plaza]

Someday I'll be as good as the forge world painters to make paint oil spills on black color schemes

[crystal forum]

painting those big display dioramas legit would make me tear my eyes out

[shadow plover]

I wish I had the space for one

[crystal forum]

i want to find a painter friend so i can just focus on modelling lol

[shadow plover]

they'd probably be too busy painting their own stuff

[crystal forum]

im too busy modelling stuff to paint

[fallen plaza]

Btw, have you ever painted Gundam before? Because I would like some small advice

[crystal forum]

i was more thinking of that siege of vraks one

whoever had to paint those HUNDREDS of krieg minis

[shadow plover]

I haven't but I recon it's not too different from what I know

[fallen plaza]

When you paint the joints or anything articulate would you all paint it while it's in the sprue? Or it's okay to keep it assembled

[crystal forum]

i only know one person who does those sorts of gundam models and they do the pose before painting

[shadow plover]

Some of the Warhammer stuff I've painted have had articulated joints and I've painted them all in subassemblies

[fallen plaza]

Because I intend to keep it posable

Or, what little poses it can do

It's a guntank kek

[shadow plover]

The posing might damage the paintwork though

[crystal forum]

you could polish it

[fallen plaza]

Yeah that was my concern

[crystal forum]

lacquer

[shadow plover]

Painting it assembled will probably cause the joints to stick together slightly

[crystal forum]

if you paint the joints before assembling it could not fit

depends on the tolerances

[fallen plaza]

This could help see if there is any tolerances, I think?

[crystal forum]

those ball joint arms would definitely become sandy if you paint the whole ball

you know, like if you move them around they'll do CREEEE

[shadow plover]

they look loose enough that it might be fine

but will probably leave some markings if moved often

[dense dawn]

It's that turret mf from that gundam game

[fallen plaza]

The dead one? Or the other dead one?

[dense dawn]

The overwatch dead one

[fallen plaza]

Oh okay

[dense dawn]

Forgor the name

[outer wave]

Guntank...

[fallen plaza]

What can I say, I love it's design

[outer wave]

I cant believe theres people that only know of this beauty of a machine from Gundam Evo

[fallen plaza]

Kek, I knew it before all that

[outer wave]

Same!

[fallen plaza]

It's why I love it in the first place

I'm hoping to get the mass production type along with the early type at some point

Then we'll move on to the good stuff

Like the MG Zeong

[outer wave]

Zeong my beloved....