40k-lore-chat

[dusk patrol]

I’d be more surprised if they can’t be used

It’s not like SoB or Arbites are typically Inquisition either

[rocky gale]

Yea but they didn't get special rules for doing so like Sisters, Deathwatch and Grey Knights did

[dusk patrol]

They didn’t yet

GW seems keen on using kill teams for the units for agents too

[rocky gale]

Hmm

Agents better not steal Scions from Guard

[raven stone]

One thing that always amuses me about 9th edition is the following bit of overkill specific to Word Bearers.

You have…
(A) A warlord trait that gives the character the possessed keyword.
(B) You can take demonic possessed weapons upgrade as a weapons artefact.

So yes, somewhere out there, there is a Word Bearers Chaplain who is not only possessed by one demon, but is also holding a weapon possessed by yet another demon

[rocky gale]

Or I've lost most of my Guard army

[raven stone]

Just say the officers are Rogue Traders or Inquisitors XD

[dusk patrol]

It’s literally a soup faction

[raven stone]

All under cover

[dusk patrol]

That’s the point

[rocky gale]

Well hands off my soup

[dusk patrol]

It’s our soup and also I’m executing you for heresy because I don’t like your hat

[rocky gale]

You're just jealous and want to steal the hat off my corpse

Also it's a wig not a hat

[raven stone]

Also for guard…why Scions when you have Kasrkin?

[plush mason]

why would the scions being in the agents remove them from the guard?

[rocky gale]

Deathwatch got consolidated into their roster, so who knows

[plush mason]

well the deathwatch as a whole exist purely to support the ordo xenos

but the SOB are their own faction as well as the chamber militant of the ordo hereticus

[raven stone]

I think in essence, if GW feels something Imperial aligned isn’t selling enough, OR they have Imperial aligned Kill Teams that do not justify a full codex (or added to an existing one)
They get shoved into Agents

[plush mason]

i see

[rocky gale]

Basically I just want to be able to put the new Scion units into my Guard army alongside my existing Scions, without having to worry about Imperial Agent rules

[plush mason]

have the guard got their 10e codex?

[rocky gale]

Not yet

[plush mason]

hopefully the scions will still be part of it then

[rocky gale]

Hopefully

[dusk patrol]

Because Kasrkin are Cadian only

[raven stone]

We should find out next week, whatever the results.

[raven stone]

Ah fair point.

[rocky gale]

Also Scions are just cooler than Kasrkin

[dusk patrol]

I like both but regardless

[rocky gale]

Yea I like both too

[dusk patrol]

Inquisition both make sense anyways as options

That’s half the fun of the inquisition

[plush mason]

just yoinking whoever you need from the other factions of the imperium to make a frankenstine army

[raven stone]

It would be out of character for GW to do this.
But maybe both codices get them, with altered keywords.

[dusk patrol]

Sounds like my average mid game black crusade character tbh lol

[dusk patrol]

Idk if they’ll make specific rules for those but they’ll be easy proxies at least

[green loom]

Sounds exactly like what they're doing with sisters and grey knights lol

[tulip brook]

Don't world eaters have dudes with 8 demons shoved in them?

[dusk patrol]

And more friendly

[green loom]

I imagine we'll see a lot more units under "requisition" than the initial post showed

[rocky gale]

Imagine if they'd made a Scion Battleforce, that would be a quick sell because of how damn expensive those bastards are to collect

[plush mason]

if said demons are fleshhounds then you could say they have 8 wolves inside them :P

[raven stone]

By lore perhaps, but reading by rules wise the craziest you could get was 2 back in 9th edition.

Of course, if going the narrative route, nothing stops you from saying all your Possessed Marines have multiple demons shoved into them.

[dusk patrol]

There are two wolves inside you

Both are gay

[plush mason]

lol

[rocky gale]

Yea World Eaters have Eightbound, Berzerkers that have eight Daemons posessing them at once

And if the individual is able to overpower the eight Daemons and become the dominant personality they become Exalted Eightbound

[plush mason]

that sounds, like hell

but i assume the eightbound are very powerful

[rocky gale]

They're certainly very angry

[dusk patrol]

The key is you pick eight bitchass daemons

[dusk patrol]

lol

[fallen plaza]

I dunno how eightbound managed to not look like chaos spawn after being ganged possessed by eight daemons

[viral halo]

Believe it or not this is fairly common amongst word bearers

[storm jungle]

Eightbound?

more like uhhh

Eightfucked

gottem

🌽

[viral halo]

I’m on vaca rn and I see this in the Distance

[plush mason]

lol

[wraith quartz]

Hey

[raven stone]

Hello

[wraith quartz]

I need some help atm, you guys are decent problem solvers right??

[green loom]

Well I wouldn't say that...

[wraith quartz]

But you would be able to develop a quick solution that could be an ever so developing situation...

[green loom]

Depends what said situation is

[wraith quartz]

Right

Sooooooooo

Earlier in July, or I would say late June... We had a wicked Thunderstorm

It like took out part of a tree and was a bit of a bitch to clean up before the fourth...

[dense dawn]

I love world eaters

[dense dawn]

Damn bro going for vacation to ultramar??

[wraith quartz]

But that's not the least weird bit about it tho

[dense dawn]

Say hi to robot girlyman from me

[dense dawn]

Krakkin warp storms

[wraith quartz]

clears throat

Anyway, a couple weeks later things were getting more weird. I don't know if it was the storm or fireworks on the 4th but I think there's some sort of critter(s) hiding in my house.

In the late nights I hearing scratching in the walls and I'm like "the mice got in the house again

But then I'm finding weird shit in and around the garage

Last week I found some half eaten carcasses and such. And I'm here like wtf is in my home!!??!?

All I do know is that it tore away through this makeshift barrier me and my dad made when we first moved into the house, to keep the mice out.

So then I came up with an idea

What if we bait and trap the buggers that's skittering in my house

So two nights ago I got some dried meat and set up a basic rodent trap in the garage.

Nothing really took the bait until last night

All I heard was a snap and then some infernal screeching like a bat out of hell

Then the screeching stopped

With my bat in hand, I went to the garage and flipped the garage light on.

Idk wtf it is but I did take a picture of it though.

[raven stone]

(Perhaps spoiler the pic, my suggestion)

[wraith quartz]

Hold on

Here's what they look like

[plush mason]

lol

[raven stone]

OK I confess

[plush mason]

ngl you had me going there

[raven stone]

This is some high quality 40k shitpost XD

Well done

[plush mason]

agreed

[wraith quartz]

I smashed em with my bat, but idk what they are...
(Also yes today's lore small/medium topic discussion is about tyranids thingy ma bob)

Hence why I'm coming to you for answers

[raven stone]

But assuming the whole tree toppling part is genuine - I do hope that has not caused too much trouble

[wraith quartz]

It was a pain to chop up, but we got firewood out of it...

Anyway.....

First topic question: where did they come from? Do they have a home planet or something??

[dusk patrol]

We don’t know

Not from this galaxy

[wraith quartz]

[dusk patrol]

There the extent of what we know also

There’s some stuff which implies some elements were in the Milky Way before but that’s it really we don’t know

[wraith quartz]

Hmmmm

So when did the Imperium come into contact with these creatures??

[arctic talon]

officially like

[wraith quartz]

Yee

[arctic talon]

Mid M41

unoffically the Great Crusade

[wraith quartz]

I'm presuming it wasn't under peaceful terms

[arctic talon]

there is no such thing as peace regarding tyranids

[wraith quartz]

Ah

So did we always call them tyranids or do they call themselves by another name?

[dusk patrol]

They got called that because the planet they were discovered

Was called Tyran

A Magos collected a ton of data as they attacked

And managed to pit it in a salvageable container

The Imperium found the world destroyed and located his data cache

So they’re called Tyranids now

[wraith quartz]

Oh

[dusk patrol]

Kryptman was the first person to discover this

[wraith quartz]

So was tyran an farm world or densely pop. World?

[dusk patrol]

Ocean world

Lots of sea life like giant squid’s and stuff

[wraith quartz]

Ooooh

[dusk patrol]

It had a Ad Mech Explorator station on it

Which is what gathered the data

The had noticed a strange trend of local worlds being found completely barren

With no known cause

[wraith quartz]

Mmm hmmm

[dusk patrol]

There was probably other encounters before but that was the first recorded one

[wraith quartz]

So do they have their own stake of territory?

[dusk patrol]

Mostly no they don’t settle on worlds

[wraith quartz]

In the galaxy

[dusk patrol]

A couple fleets do

And there’s areas they are but it’s not quite territory

[wraith quartz]

So they're like "pac-maning" it across the galaxy??

[plush mason]

basically

[wraith quartz]

Second topic question: I terms of like "Hierarchy" is there an official overlord of the tyranids or what's their pecking order?

[plush mason]

they are a hive mind

[dusk patrol]

There’s bigger badder ones

With more autonomy

The Swarmlord being the main big kahuna

He’s a separate consciousness the hive mind calls in to adjust strategy for major conflicts

But Hive Tyrants are similar

[plush mason]

the norn queens would be the highest bioform in the hierarchy

[dusk patrol]

And other equivalents

[storm jungle]

They are basically an RTS faction, their "leader" is an unseen entity since they are a Hivemind, its like you controlling pieces on a game board

down to even gathering resoruces when boots on the ground for more advanced units

[dusk patrol]

Synapse creatures in general lead the others and are protected by more elite bioforms

But yeah it’s not really like

A pecking order so much as an organism

With different roles

[wraith quartz]

So can they like use technology?? How do they travel the galaxy??

[dusk patrol]

Gravity bullshit ships

Called Narvals

Or something like that

[plush mason]

afaik we still dont know if the hive mind is a single unimaginably powerful intellect or just a collection of all the minds of the tyranids

[dusk patrol]

They’re slow and dont work near big bodies in space

[storm jungle]

All their "equipment" is bio-organic stuff

even guns

[plush mason]

and the ammo in some cases

[storm jungle]

imagine the Hivehand from Half Life

[dusk patrol]

The Nids main weakness is how slow their FTL is

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hive-hand-gif-25732989

for scientific purposes

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-star-trek-gif-19129737

There’s a funny case of a nid which has a big gun on it which is smarter than the creature holding it

[storm jungle]

Its great, i love it

even the bullets are alive

mostly

unless its firing like solid projectile organ parts of itself

lol

[plush mason]

isnt the "gun" a parasite that controls the blind bioform?

[dusk patrol]

They shoot acid and shit a lot, or as said actual living small bugs

[plush mason]

worms that can eat through ceramite

[wraith quartz]

Never played halflife..

[plush mason]

some tyranids even have acid blood

[storm jungle]

Big shame

[storm jungle]

Depends from Nid to Nid

every one of their guns has a unique thing to it since they are all alive to some extent

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/g-man-half-life-gif-26268160

[storm jungle]

even the swords of Tyrants got fucking brains in them lol

[plush mason]

oh i was talking about this new gaunt i heard about on adric recently

[rocky gale]

I think the Neurogaunts are blind, with a brain bug on their back which guides them

[plush mason]

things blind and has a big gun parasite attactched to it that allows it to see

iirc they said its main role is to screen the bigger bioforms and help protect them

[storm jungle]

Yeah its the Neurogaunt she mentioned above

[plush mason]

ok

[wraith quartz]

Right third topic question:
Given that they're an invasive species (ON FUCKIN STEROIDS), how do they "wine and dine", aka fight and consoom the galaxy..

[rocky gale]

I think there's another blind one with a Gun, because Neurogaunts are melee

[dusk patrol]

There’s also one which is blind, but it’s gun leads it around

[dusk patrol]

They just convert biomass and shit

Also don’t think about it Morty

Nids break a lot of laws of conservation and physics already

[rocky gale]

Oh Barbgaunts

[storm jungle]

to be fair

their invasion process is explained in great detail

its just a bit expansive lol

[plush mason]

once they take over the world they start munching up everything and throwing it and most of the tyranids into big pools of acid that desolves it al down and this giant pillars suck up the pools into the hive ships in orbit, they also have giant bioforms made to suck up the air and oceans

[rocky gale]

They're blind and the gun parasite on their shoulder see's for them

[plush mason]

yes that

[rocky gale]

Barbgaunts

[dusk patrol]

Their energy conservation will always be pretty goofy but it’s what it is, without it the faction doesn’t work

Space magic bullshit or whatever you wanna call it

[wraith quartz]

So how do they find their next meal ticket?

[dusk patrol]

Various ways

[storm jungle]

By just randomly travelling or through Genestealer cult signals

[dusk patrol]

Genestealer cults are one main source

Genestealers set up on generally high population worlds

[storm jungle]

In the universe with literal space orks its like the least goofy thing tbh

also again completely alien faction, its not like they follow our rules when it comes to army manufacturing and managing much

[dusk patrol]

I think what makes it worse is they try to explain it

[storm jungle]

well yeah

40k authors are stupid

its why stuff like Narhvals stick out so much

you can literally tell

one of those mfers

opened a science book

and just headcannon some shit they read from it

[dusk patrol]

“Yeah, gravity, bitch!”

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-pinkman-science-breaking-bad-aaron-paul-gif-9579180

[storm jungle]

I learned science from more reliable sources

like Portal 2

[dusk patrol]

Someone read inertialess engines one time in a theory article and then didn’t look up how they’d work at all for Necrons

But it does sound cool

[storm jungle]

Its also easier to get away with it when your audience cant read

[dusk patrol]

And doesn’t read

[storm jungle]

worst part is it can actually effect lore lol

I cannot fucking believe the 15 Hours guardsman lifespan thing from that one book became official lore years later, holy shit

[wraith quartz]

So when they begin their "all you can eat buffet" how do they deal with the more "living" O'rd diervs (anyone with a functional brain and can throw a rock)? (In simple terms) What are they're combative structures, units and ranks.

[storm jungle]

They just kill them

the bigger the tyranid the easier

[dusk patrol]

Fortunately I have the power of “Lore Hypocrisy: This unit can ignore lore it doesn’t like and justify head canon with barely relevant details and huge leaps of inference.”

[arctic talon]

wait what

WHERE

IS THIS FUCKING SAID

[dusk patrol]

It’s mentioned in uh

[storm jungle]

It was on a fucking rulebook

[dusk patrol]

Guard codexes

[arctic talon]

WHICH ONE

[storm jungle]

Yeah that

[dusk patrol]

It’s stupid and ignore it

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

In reality the 15 hours thing is like

from that one book

on that one specific planet

[arctic talon]

Wasn't it because

that warzone was like

an uber shit hole

[storm jungle]

Yep

but its passed around as actual lore

same with "HUEHUE FLASHLIGHTS"

shut the fuck up 💀

[arctic talon]

you know what

its not in the 8e codex

I'm ignoring it

[storm jungle]

Same, its dumb.

[arctic talon]

I will cherry pick this time

[dusk patrol]

Either way I’m ignoring it, don’t care GW can suck it. Same as Abnett saying a force of like 1,500 guardsmen is enough to “take worlds”

Yeah maybe some world with no one fucking there

[arctic talon]

a world with like

[wraith quartz]

Lemme rephrase the question, what combative units do they have when dealing with more aggressive biomass like the alien weebs or the Imperium?

[arctic talon]

1 city

[dusk patrol]

Literally

[arctic talon]

Generally speaking Gaunts and Warriors are enough to overwhelm any planet that isn't heavily fortified

[dusk patrol]

Everything they use

[arctic talon]

Like exclusively just those 2 bioforms lol

beyond that

[wraith quartz]

Hmm

[arctic talon]

Nids have a lot of varities

[wraith quartz]

[arctic talon]

gaunts are the most common by far as a combat "unit"

[dusk patrol]

Most of the special stuff we see doesn’t come up much

[wraith quartz]

What kind of bio form thing, would be considered an absolute world ender?

[dusk patrol]

Or the break them out for special cases

[arctic talon]

individually? none

[dusk patrol]

Even their best stuff biotitans are pretty bad as a single titan

[arctic talon]

but if you see like a Hive Tyrant spawn well

shits going to go to hell fast

[dusk patrol]

They can just make a bunch

[arctic talon]

Hive tyrants generally are like

the end all be all if the nids want to finish it off

mostly since they're good strategists and coordinators

[dusk patrol]

Nids kinda exemplify quantity over quality

[arctic talon]

the exemplify good enough quality in huge quantity

a nid warrior might be less skilled then a Marine but its just as tough and stubborn

and there's like

10x more of them

[wraith quartz]

So for the Imperium, who do you think is more specialized in dealing with the tyranids within either the Militarum/Navy or whatever faction of the Space Marines

[plush mason]

and if its a prime warrior it can body most marines easily

[arctic talon]

tbf a Tyranid Prime is like

[plush mason]

them things are scary

[arctic talon]

genuinely a menace

shit should not be considered a warrior lmao

[dusk patrol]

They all do different things

[arctic talon]

broadly speaking Deathwatch is good at dealing with nids

[dusk patrol]

Marines focus on the elites and synapse creature

Guard is more, balls to the wall

[plush mason]

they are basically mini hive tyrants right?

[arctic talon]

lore wise yeah

they're smarter, faster, stronger, have a whole chunk of knowledge they can pull from

and they just look like a Warrior with slightly fancier chitin lol

[wraith quartz]

But who's most definitely is a:
"Kill tyranids,
Stomp tyranids,
Roundhouse kick tyranids,
Throw tyranids in lava, etc. etc"

[storm jungle]

Ultramarines probably

they were the biggest bulwark against them during the first few invasions.

[arctic talon]

Ultramarines have a bone to pick

badly lol

[storm jungle]

also got literal Tyrannic War Veterans units

even if they dont exist on tabletop anymore they are sitll a thing in the lore

[arctic talon]

They literally have an entire veteran group dedicated to murdering nids yeah

the 5th company also

is dedicated to murdering them

[plush mason]

they have a unit of vets that are basically monster hunter players lol, cover their armor in tyranid trophies

[arctic talon]

I think their symbol is literally a Tyranid warriors head impaled on a sword lol

[wraith quartz]

Oh

So tyranids eat us but can we eat them as well??

[arctic talon]

nvm its the third company

if you try eating a tyranid

you will die

horribly

[plush mason]

yeah they are not good eating

[arctic talon]

very subtle about what they like doing

[wraith quartz]

Ok

[storm jungle]

My favorite faze clan

[storm jungle]

To put it into perspective

tyranids got micro-organisms in literally everything

even their blood

[arctic talon]

Tyranid blood is extremely poisonous yeah

[storm jungle]

do you like the idea of micro-bugs eating and poisoning you from the inside out

💀

[arctic talon]

Also their flesh is poisonous

[storm jungle]

Yeah when they fight orks tyranid organisms even fight ork spores in a microscopic level

[wraith quartz]

The idea of eating the tyranids back sounded better in my head... Tbh

[plush mason]

as i said some will even evolve acid blood that can melt a person in moments

[storm jungle]

its why when a tyranid invasion begins 80% of the time its game over

anytime someone wins against them its usually through bullshit

[plush mason]

like suiciding a giant battleship into the hive fleet's center

[storm jungle]

or just plot

Blood Angels almost get wiped but we cant have that because they are a big boy chapter so random warp portal across the galaxy, GO

[arctic talon]

Deus Ex Kabhanda and great rift

[plush mason]

btw are there feral tyranids on any of the worlds fought over during the tyranic wars?

[arctic talon]

yes

[storm jungle]

Tyranids also got like.. reproductive organs in some cases

💀

[wraith quartz]

Fourth topic question: Time for some rather complicated questions.
In terms of tyranids diets does any form of biomass goes or do they have a peculiar taste?

[storm jungle]

its mostly when they are seperated and gotta reproduce

[storm jungle]

EVERY bio-organic thing

we are talking metal

ores

planet cores

they will eat an entire world until its basically inhospitable

even take the air

[wraith quartz]

But metal isn't organics tho...

[dusk patrol]

We eat iron and use it for stuff

[arctic talon]

those gaunts look a bit anorexic

[wraith quartz]

I can't eat metal, Ogryns can't eat metal even if they try

[dusk patrol]

Nids can use it but not as easily

[plush mason]

exactly, they eat minerals as well

[wraith quartz]

Oh

[dusk patrol]

Bionics aren’t as immediately useful for them

It requires more work

But they can use them

[wraith quartz]

So like nutritional stuff

[dusk patrol]

It’s how Lucius starved them eventually

Forgeworld Lucius

They kept sending mostly metal servitors out which would destroy more biomass than they had on them

[wraith quartz]

Has other exenos encountered the tyranids as well??

[storm jungle]

Dont forget the absolutely crazy David Gallagher concept art for the Tyrannic Vets that never got made

[dusk patrol]

And recovered the metal parts

[fallen plaza]

Wait what the murder bugs are canonically nids?

[storm jungle]

what murder bugs

[fallen plaza]

The megarachnid

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[storm jungle]

no lol

Megarachnids are just aliens

not everything is tied to Nids

[fallen plaza]

I know i just misread eters message

[dusk patrol]

Fenrisian Krakens and Catachan Devils have some link but it’s distant

[wraith quartz]

Has other xenos encountered tyranids as well??

[storm jungle]

Yes

they are literally everywhere

[dusk patrol]

Everyone has

[fallen plaza]

Why wouldnt they?

[storm jungle]

basically

imagine the galaxy as your house

now replace nids with cockroaches

[storm jungle]

Notice how they are also coming from below the galaxy

[dusk patrol]

They’ve attacked from almost all angles

And spread

[storm jungle]

the 4th Tyrannic war has them coming from above as well

if only they bothered doing a fucking map to show it

[wraith quartz]

Da fak

[storm jungle]

Yeah uh

Space is 3D

[dusk patrol]

Source?

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

[spring cairn]

i thought space was just the sea

[storm jungle]

Portal 2

[wraith quartz]

I don't have a PhD in space study so I won't question how that works

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/portals-portal-space-gif-4741395

[spring cairn]

since they like naval battles so much

[storm jungle]

Its...

space is literally space

we are one single planet floating in it

[scenic bolt]

Only flat spacers in this chat, globe spacecels get out

[plush mason]

which i still wonder what that means for the carcharodons astra

[dusk patrol]

The main answer is, thinking in that many dimensions is hard

[storm jungle]

^

also complicated for 40k writers

its why every space engagement is one dimension lol

[shadow plover]

well, two

[plush mason]

as they hunt in the space that is above the galaxy aka the place the nids can in from this time

[spring cairn]

here in the imperium we have BROARDsides on our combat vessels because AS YOU KNOW there is no third dimension in void combat

[fallen plaza]

I mean, a broadside can sorta work in space if your foes are all over the place, just move em

[wraith quartz]

Right, so if the Imperium is mid Battle with idk elf looking aliens. Would they call a temporary truce when tyranids come in all like. "HEY, HEY, HEY!" (In Fat Alberts voice)

[storm jungle]

Uhh

depends on the craftworld eldar

and the Imperium faction

they either do a temporary avengers assemble and win or just get eaten

or they just dont do a temporary truce and get eaten

win-win for Nids

[fallen plaza]

I wouldnt mind a xenos team up more often in general

[dusk patrol]

There is the occasional book there they describe stuff like corkscrewing and stacking from multiple vectors but

[storm jungle]

Its too hard in 40k compared to Fantasy or AOS since literally everyone is a super-racist lol

[dusk patrol]

Mostly everyone agrees to treat it like the sea

Cause it’s more fun

And easier to picture

[fallen plaza]

I forgot it has to be written well, oh shucks then.

[storm jungle]

Me when my sci-fi fleet has to go to any direction in space that isnt forward and my opponent is the Imperial navy

[dusk patrol]

The Tyranids are the main faction which has united the most. Necrons and Blood Angels, Scions and Tau, Guard and Orks, Imperium and Eldar

It doesn’t always happen but

They’re a good unifier

[wraith quartz]

Sidenote: is there a slang/slur for tyranids.

[dusk patrol]

There’s a specific scion regiment who work extensively with Tau to combat Nids and Orks in a mixed area of space where the Imperium borders the Tau

[dusk patrol]

Bugs

[fallen plaza]

Your mom

[wraith quartz]

Far enough

[dusk patrol]

Idk about slurs

Kinda hard to call them slurs

[arctic talon]

^

What insult is gona work on them lol

[dusk patrol]

Since whatever you say is probably true or undercutting it

[arctic talon]

they don't give a shit

[wraith quartz]

Ok

[storm jungle]

Nids, thats basically it

people use it in-universe too

[wraith quartz]

Ah

[fallen plaza]

Im glad your taking notes, this is serious stuff i tell you

[dusk patrol]

The great devourer is another term

[dusk patrol]

This is on account of Nids liking to devour stuff

And being great at it

[storm jungle]

Devour deez nu-

[wraith quartz]

So is there anything the "nids" don't want to fuck with.

[storm jungle]

Not really

they will even attack chaos with specific hivefleets

[fallen plaza]

I mean if an author is making a story of nids in the perspective of a citizen, they can write new slang for them or something

[storm jungle]

the only shit they avoid is like

[arctic talon]

Necrons I guess

Lol

[storm jungle]

when the hivemind deems an effort "not worth it"

[arctic talon]

Necrodermis isn’t edible

[fallen plaza]

Bugzakidum!

[arctic talon]

If Necrons are enough of an issue

[storm jungle]

Get out the chat Bardin

[arctic talon]

Then they’ll eat them

[dusk patrol]

Dilara do you though Jace is sad that Laenor isn’t his dad, because it makes his relationship with Baela almost not incestuous and thus much less hot?

Asking for a friend

[wraith quartz]

Right so can a nid be really and devour a whole world like a fat man inhaling a hoagie?

[arctic talon]

No

There’s not a hive ship that big

Yet

[fallen plaza]

Can you ask like a real question

[dusk patrol]

Well maybe a small world

[storm jungle]

Hes being inquisitive, be nice

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146299773964521523/1266413374820974733/SPOILER_AylinMoment.gif

[dusk patrol]

Me_IRL

[rocky gale]

I also had a realisation that to Jace and Luce's perspective Aemond said "You'll die screaming in fire like your father" and then the next day Laenor burns to death.

[scenic bolt]

WHICH PRIMARCH BEST REPRESENTS EACH HIVE FLEET (billionth 40klore reddit post)

[near wasp]

[arctic talon]

Lawful Good W

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/acces-denied-no-nope-nah-headshot-gif-10481869666719359459

[arctic talon]

LOL

that poor gaunt

[near wasp]

Poor?

Nids don't use money how can they be poor

[storm jungle]

Bruh

[arctic talon]

Smh

[fallen plaza]

“Horus said if dorn would be a bug, he would bug the bug out of him for a bug millienium years”

[dusk patrol]

Mfw we’re in the 47364484th question in 40k lore which can be answered by “it depends” of the day

[wraith quartz]

Running out time rn, what are gene stealers and how do they operate?

[storm jungle]

Oh god

thats a long one

[dusk patrol]

Basically

[scenic bolt]

from limos

[wraith quartz]

Just give me a crash course

[dusk patrol]

Agents for the Nids which are autonomous mostly

Which spread to worlds and form GSC

[fallen plaza]

Hey guys, do people in 40k smoke weed?

[dusk patrol]

Whose goal is to setup the world for the hive fleet

[near wasp]

They kiss you and you become infected then your kids will be monsters until they loop around to being human ish

[fallen plaza]

That would be le epik

[arctic talon]

The most human ish ones make pure strains

The cycle repeats

[dusk patrol]

I’m gonna smoke you in a second here

[storm jungle]

Me when im a Genestealer Cultist and my opponent is a Enforcer who abused my family for like 2 decades

[dusk patrol]

But yes

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-on-fire-sitting-edited-on-fire-fire-gif-17645117

[dusk patrol]

There’s drugs which is basically weed

[fallen plaza]

That was a bit

[wraith quartz]

Can these "gene stealers" infect any sentient organic being?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Kind of

[dusk patrol]

(Unfortunately the blast was too small and you only confused him)

[arctic talon]

As far as we know

[storm jungle]

they prefer humanoid targets that can breed fast

[dusk patrol]

Too bad

[storm jungle]

humans are the perfect target

[arctic talon]

They can give the kiss to anything

[storm jungle]

because we like fucking

a lot

[dusk patrol]

We got the dank 420 doobies in 40k

[arctic talon]

Also getting kissed by a genestealer makes you horny

All the time

[fallen plaza]

Imagine that

Being horny all the time

[storm jungle]

Want something you wanna tell the class

you fucking impostor

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/courage-the-cowardly-dog-eustace-mallet-angry-its-go-time-gif-4845999

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/love-you-love-gif-5568862867438095860

[wraith quartz]

Ok, so if there's a ranking structure. Who's at the top of the hive cult?

[fallen plaza]

Me

[arctic talon]

The genestealer patriarch

[near wasp]

The patriarch

[storm jungle]

the Patriarch

the genestealer that started it all

[arctic talon]

Oldest purestrain genestealer

[storm jungle]

below it is the usual psychic cult leaders, the Magus

aka either a bald scientology cunt

or a THICC mommy milfer cultist

[near wasp]

If the patriarch dies it'll be the psykers until a new patriarch is born

[wraith quartz]

Sounds heretical

[dusk patrol]

If the Magus dies the Primus

Who goes cowabunga

[arctic talon]

I did not need to hear you call a magus a milf but here we are

[dusk patrol]

Milfgus

[storm jungle]

Bro have you seen the way they modelled her

lmao

[arctic talon]

Not MILF smh

[dusk patrol]

I’ll be honest Dilara

[arctic talon]

Not old enough

[dusk patrol]

I don’t wanna stick my dick in that

[dusk patrol]

Hmm

[storm jungle]

I dont either but it definitely gave me a taste for bald women

[fallen plaza]

Amilfgus

[dusk patrol]

Now the left guy

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

What those forehead wrinkles do though

[storm jungle]

me when i wanna date a bald chick and my date is Cassandra Nova

[fallen plaza]

They make you sexy

[wraith quartz]

How would any sentient faction be able to detect a nid fleet is coming to eat dat ass

[arctic talon]

There’s usually signs

[dusk patrol]

They don’t mostly

[arctic talon]

But generally speaking

[scenic bolt]

head wrinkles are not cribbed from klingon plz dont sue paramount

[arctic talon]

They’re so minor it’s way too late

[dusk patrol]

By the time you do it’s often too late but they try to track their patterns

It’s just impossible to evacuate worlds

[wraith quartz]

How does the cult ring the dinner bell?

[dusk patrol]

The standard imperium doctrine is fight as much as you can then blown up the world once it’s lost

[arctic talon]

Psychic beacon

[scenic bolt]

when everyone with even an ounce of psychic potential's heads explode

[arctic talon]

LOL

I mean yeah

[dusk patrol]

Or if you can’t fight blow up the world as they make planet fall

[fallen plaza]

When they feel the power of the hivemind inside them

[arctic talon]

The shadow in the warp is a pretty good tel lol

[near wasp]

You can tell the nods are coming because the inquisition will suddenly show up and nuke you

[arctic talon]

LOL

[dusk patrol]

If you look out the window of your ship and see this

[wraith quartz]

Was there any legendary nids or cultists that were truly feared?

[dusk patrol]

There’s a good chance nid invasion is near

[dusk patrol]

Old One Eye is one

Also the uh one Lictor

New one

[arctic talon]

Old one eye, the death leaper, the red terror

[dusk patrol]

The Doom of whatever

[fallen plaza]

As long as its not in my yard, i could care less about the invasion

[arctic talon]

The doom of malantai

[dusk patrol]

Swarm Lord

Your mum

[scenic bolt]

very much an exception cause by and large the nids recycle their forces back into biomass when they move on

[arctic talon]

For genestealers there’s one specific kellermorph but they’re most likely not real

[near wasp]

Most cultists get eaten when the fleet shows

[arctic talon]

^

[near wasp]

Very rarely will they be deemed useful

[arctic talon]

But named tyranids are usually unique bioform

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/couple-love-gif-26127385

[arctic talon]

With something very uh

Distinct about them

Old one eye is too stupid too tough to die

[dusk patrol]

Most are implied to be new iterations of the same thing too

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The death leaper is just really good at terrorizing people

[wraith quartz]

Last one for now:
If an Ordo Xenos KNOWS, there's a hive cult festering in a hive city. How do they root them out? Do they do like an STD test or is the nid gene really undetectable

[fallen plaza]

Should nids get the necron treatment? Give them personality or something

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-exterminatus-explode-gif-16225998

[dusk patrol]

No

[arctic talon]

No, they fill a niche rn

And they do have personality

For the swarm lord specifically

[dusk patrol]

It depends

How big is it

How extensive

[arctic talon]

The swarmlords an egoistical bastard who loves theatrics

By nid standards

[fallen plaza]

My favorite line

[dusk patrol]

If a whole cult is ravaging a planet they’ll try to just wipe out the whole hive mostly

Or blow up the world

[arctic talon]

Bro literally hid underground just so he could burst out the ground, impale a warboss and crack open his skull to eat

Because funny

[dusk patrol]

GSC are a huge risk

[near wasp]

On terra the custodes got involved

[dusk patrol]

A single Genestealer getting away can doom a world

[arctic talon]

I think nids work rn because there’s no other mindless no personality faction

[near wasp]

On other planets it's usually a exterminatus

[scenic bolt]

by the time inquisition catches wind it's probably too late and you're looking at mitigation

[dusk patrol]

They do catch cults early

[scenic bolt]

or you're the inquistion purposefully infecting worlds in order to study them

[wraith quartz]

Mmm, hmmm

[dusk patrol]

But yeah there’s no real standard deal

[arctic talon]

If you catch a cult early it can be contained

Once it hits critical mass it’s usually too late

[wraith quartz]

That's all I have for now, gtgt work

Ttyl

[dusk patrol]

Cults try to stay underground for a reason

If they’re found the imperium is gonna put a lot of resources into wiping them out

[plush mason]

they work because their driving motivation is the munchies, makes them one of the more relatable factions

[arctic talon]

Hungry

[dusk patrol]

No matter how fucking annoying they are to put down

[scenic bolt]

having multiple mindless factions was dumb when it was robot and animal varities, saturday morning cartoon stuff

newcrons was a matt ward triumph

[fallen plaza]

I alsays found it weird how newer art shows them in a lot morr awkward positions of striking

[near wasp]

No the brainless faction is the tau. So dumb for thinking your better off in the galaxy with friends

[dusk patrol]

They kinda have to show it as a moshpit for the purposes of the art

They’re trying to show off multiple units

[fallen plaza]

Yeah, but some of it just looks a bit awkward

[dusk patrol]

[dusk patrol]

Better quality

[fallen plaza]

Like dude, a termie is like a breath away from you and yall have guns

[dusk patrol]

This will always be my favorite

[fallen plaza]

You can kinda suspend you disbelif if they were showing it mid strike, but they are all just posing lol

[dusk patrol]

It’s supposed to be stylized tbh

[arctic talon]

The pathfinder really has the vibe of I hate my job

[dusk patrol]

Like this piece

[scenic bolt]

these guys gotta churn out dozens of these promo art pieces and 9/10 of them got some form of space marines in it so they probably rapidly exhaust options

[arctic talon]

Making the imperium look menacing and evil is my favorite

[dusk patrol]

“Damn I thought this was gonna be my day”

[arctic talon]

The lack of eye glow for the marine visor makes them look so much creepier

[fallen plaza]

Making them heroic always kinda looked weird to me, unless the art feels like it knows its in the bit

[arctic talon]

“Man this pulse carbine said it could pierce ceramite”

[fallen plaza]

Most of the old adrian smith art has that vibe to the tea

[dusk patrol]

Making you feel bad for the Orks being attacked by the guard is

Impressive

[arctic talon]

The ork being absolutely dogpiled

Is so good

[dusk patrol]

“No fair!”

[scenic bolt]

the illuminated lasgun guardsmen looks 1 step away from joining chaos

[dusk patrol]

Lewis Jones is probably my favorite 40k artist ever tbh

[arctic talon]

I agree

I don’t think there’s a single piece of art he’s made I’ve disliked

[fallen plaza]

Adrian smith and karl kopinski are my faves

[dusk patrol]

Banger after banger after banger

[fallen plaza]

I love this piece, its so over the top and subdued at the same time you wouldn’t notice at first how his axes are breathing fire

[near wasp]

I didn't notice until you said it wtf

Most sane khorne bezerker

[arctic talon]

barbed wire gag still goes hard tbh

[dusk patrol]

Most sane sister repentia

Also the fucking shit hooked into her leg

[arctic talon]

oh I just noticed that

wtf is that lol

[fallen plaza]

Barbed nets

[dusk patrol]

Heh

Fishhook netting

[arctic talon]

no chainsword man eightbound

why even live

[celest dome]

Cilice

[arctic talon]

I see

[celest dome]

It's a self flagelation sort of thing

[fallen plaza]

Of course, can't forget this masterpiece of an abaddon arthttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162821226104881202/1173818599585095727/image0.jpg?ex=66a50a82&is=66a3b902&hm=9a47affa3fd586bda880dfcc553feb5f50c99c53f10ba5e5811ae301e60a389c&

[errant yacht]

Why aren't bolters used as sniper weapons in the Astra Militarum? I am aware that bolters have some pretty nasty recoil, but isn't the rocket propulsion designed to help the shell maintain trajectory for much longer than conventional bullets? Additionally, the rocket trail is much less likely to give away the sniper's position than a longlas beam

[fallen plaza]

Las is cheaper

And

It Depends™

[celest dome]

Gyro are not precise

[arctic talon]

Long Las is cheaper

[celest dome]

And as they are rocket, they would tend to have trails

If they really want Snipers that are discrete they would go toward Neddle Rifle

[green loom]

The rocket thing is also mostly just kinda irreleavant

Since they just work like regular guns lol

[fallen plaza]

We kinda are so used to most of the tech belonging to space Marines we forget most of there stuff if it weren't for politics and sanctions the guard would be riding rhinos by now

[errant yacht]

Smoke trails are less position-revealing than a bright red beam tho. If an enemy were to look at a bolter trail, they'd get the shooter's general direction, but there's still a lot of guessing on where the sniper's precise location is

[dusk patrol]

The IG has proper projectile snipers too

If they need them

Ratlings a known to use special modified ones

With special ammo

Also bolters are used as rifles by guard specialists anyways

It’s just cheaper to use other options typically

[storm jungle]

Yeah but corporate says they only use long-las

for MARKETING REASONS

[errant yacht]

I still find the concept to be kinda dumb due to the gun being "Hey enemies, here's my location if you want to return fire"

[dusk patrol]

It has a flash hider don’t worry

[storm jungle]

Gottem

[dusk patrol]

Generally they’re also not sniping like that

[storm jungle]

And IRL snipers can be found through dumb shit like scope glints

its whatever

[arctic talon]

Scope glint killing snipers more at 7

[errant yacht]

On a less related note, I love how it's technically not a crime to steal a xenos' weapons as long as a guardsman maintains his issued kit

[storm jungle]

No its absolutely a crime

You cannot take any enemy wargear

[dusk patrol]

Depends on the regiment and circumstances how much it’s enforced

If you’re a Mordian

Lol

[storm jungle]

Expelled

[dusk patrol]

Well you probably wouldn’t even try

[errant yacht]

I have the Imperial Infantryman's handbook, and nothing on its list of crimes doesn't mention anything about looting non-Chaos enemies

[dusk patrol]

But a Salvar Chem Dog?

[fallen plaza]

It Depends™

[storm jungle]

that thing is outdated by like 20 years

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[storm jungle]

Also the book is propaganda

why would it mention alien gear

it also actively says they are worse than your equipment

which is also a massive lie

[celest dome]

But Bolters aren't really that precise.
There are snipers rifles that the IG use, Longlas, Ballistic Rifles and Neddle Rifle

[plush mason]

also afaik the inquisiton are the ones enfocing the whole no using the weapons of the enemy stuff

[fallen plaza]

You know, considering how kinda suspect us rejects are and we are above the law by default

[storm jungle]

its not the Inquisition

its more a societal thing

why use the "shitty" gear of the enemy

[celest dome]

Commissars and the Quatermasters

[plush mason]

lol

[fallen plaza]

I wouldn't mind some new, xenos, weapons....

[dusk patrol]

“Sir I found this Baneblade all by itself, locked up in the Cadians fort, guarded by 40 men. This counts as salvage right?”

[errant yacht]

I thought that the lack of rules against xenos weapons was more or less the Departmento Munitorum acknowledging how outgunned your average guarsdsman is relative to an Eldar Guardian or Tau Fire Warrior

[storm jungle]

Hell no

The Munitorum actively lies to guardsmen about it all lol

the entire uplifting primer is suppose to be a comedy fest for you the IRL reader

[celest dome]

There enough in the Imperial armoury to not need Xenos weapon, as they would be difficult to explain on how we get them

[dusk patrol]

Also realistically

You’re not gonna have a good time using xenos guns

Lack of ammo, sometimes you literally can’t

[storm jungle]

^ Its also a parody of WW2 Instruction manuals given to stuff like U.S troops heading to Europe.

You can search shit on youtube like how they say the "MG42 is not lethal at all, simply rush it"

[fallen plaza]

At minimum, I would like a needler, which is technically xenos tech

[storm jungle]

Its not

[errant yacht]

I imagine it'd take fewer center mass shots to kill a guardian with a shurikan catapult than it would a Lasgun

[storm jungle]

imperials make needleguns too

[dusk patrol]

It’s a lot safer to just tell your dudes to never use it

Like maybe they could use a couple Eldar guns ok but

[celest dome]

@storm jungle don't you have the one that compare the Imperial air ship vs a Xenos one ?

[dusk patrol]

Good chance it goes wrong and there’s not much ammo anyways

[storm jungle]

Uhh not at hand no

[dusk patrol]

Ork weapons are always a bad idea

Chaos is obvious

[near wasp]

Unless your a rouge trader or work with an inquisition having xeno tech is an instant execution

[celest dome]

'll try to fing it

[fallen plaza]

The ammo justification is probably the hardest one

[errant yacht]

Because they literally can't fire?

[storm jungle]

They are safety hazards too

[arctic talon]

Well they can fire

They’ll just explode

Lol

[dusk patrol]

Beyond that

They’re often not that good

[arctic talon]

^

[plush mason]

the fact that book exists at all in universe is a perfect example of just how fucking incompetent the imperium is on the grand scale

[arctic talon]

Ork guns are like

[errant yacht]

Chaos weapons would fall under "Heresy" which is covered by the Uplifting Primer section

[arctic talon]

Really shit

[storm jungle]

Again

[arctic talon]

On average

[storm jungle]

the uplifting primer lies

do not take its words seriously

[dusk patrol]

Nid weapons, obvious

Necron weapons, good fucking luck

[fallen plaza]

Next were gonna quote rogue trader as canon

[errant yacht]

Given an Ork's size, wouldn't real life equivalent ammo be .50 AE for Shoota/Slugga, and .50 BMG for Big Shoota/Dakka Deffgun?

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Orks guns use any sort of ballistic ammo

so it depends lmao

[dusk patrol]

But if you do call 1-800-“BellyCawl”

[dusk patrol]

A lot of Orks aren’t that big but they can be unwieldy yeah

[fallen plaza]

Tau? Maybe some kroot jezzails?

[dusk patrol]

The main this is it’s a dumb idea

[storm jungle]

Tau, Eldar and Kroot weapons are probably the most usable ones

[arctic talon]

Looting a necron gun is a terrible idea

[dusk patrol]

Reee

That was a good joke

[arctic talon]

That shit is heavy as hell

[arctic talon]

Don’t some eldar guns require you to be a psyker to use

[dusk patrol]

This guy wants to use kroot jezz as a weapon

[storm jungle]

Correcto

[arctic talon]

I forget which ones are “normal” and which ones aren’t

[dusk patrol]

Also shuriken guns dump ammo fast as fuck

[fallen plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[storm jungle]

Mostly some basic melee weapons and shurikens

[errant yacht]

Eldar weapons are really only usable once, since they have a physical trigger that they can use in case a mon'keigh manages to sever the wielder's psychic link to the weapon. They don't have a physical magazine release however

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

It depends, again

[dusk patrol]

Not the case for all

[storm jungle]

some got magazines

some dont

some need a psychic user

etc

[arctic talon]

I don’t think a fusion pistol even has a mag

[dusk patrol]

Also you know Drukhari guns

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

Nah it doesnt

it has cannisters

[arctic talon]

Drukhari aren’t psykers they don’t count

[fallen plaza]

It Depends™

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Idk borrow a skitarii’s radium jezzail

I’m sure they won’t mind

[storm jungle]

free cancer

WOOO

[errant yacht]

Do those have safeties in place to enable continued firing in case of a psychic link being severed?

[storm jungle]

no

eldar are too skilled to need safety buttons

lol

[dusk patrol]

There’s a reason we mostly only see inquisitors and rogue traders with these guns, they’re expensive as fuck to get, learn to use, source the ammo, and also be sanctioned to do all this

[near wasp]

Id love to steal a phaseblade

[storm jungle]

Ask the deathwatch

[outer wave]

What if an Eldar just forgets trigger discipline?

[arctic talon]

I want to steal a drukhari gun

[fallen plaza]

I hope rannick becomes a traitor so I can loot his revolver

[storm jungle]

They got psychic warmasks for that reason

[fallen plaza]

Now that is a cool weapon to have

[arctic talon]

Dodge it

Smh

[errant yacht]

I know basic grunt weapons have the aforementioned safety buttons and those would still be an admittedly temporary upgrade from the common lasgun

[outer wave]

Wait the masks do things?

[storm jungle]

I mean again nobody would allow you to use them

they are alien weapons

[arctic talon]

Not a literal mask

But yes

[storm jungle]

they are everything your superiors teach you to hate

[outer wave]

Ahh

[arctic talon]

Eldar guardians put on a “war mask” to make the killing easier

[dusk patrol]

And even then it just takes one marine or inquisitor who decides they don’t like you using those guns despite being sanctioned

[arctic talon]

Unless you’re from Beil’tan

In which that case

[dusk patrol]

Basically it’s a lot of trouble, just use grav pistols nerd

[arctic talon]

But craftworld eldar generally do not like killing humans

Codex grav guns

My beloved

[fallen plaza]

An easy case against you everytime you fuck up

[outer wave]

Oh so it separates their personal feelings from the warfare?

[storm jungle]

Its a psychic warmask placed over the guardian units which are the semi-skilled foot soldiers of craftworlds that act as standing militaries and also militia forces made from common eldar.

They tend to gather around skilled psykers like warlocks or farseers which place a psychic "mask" over you so you dont get PTSD or have trauma from war encounters since eldar are very emotionally sensitive. The idea of killing sentient beings (unless its like total monsters) can upset them for most craftworld denizens

[outer wave]

I see I see

[errant yacht]

That why guardsmen can still land a lucky shot to the dome?

[dusk patrol]

Me, looking at this peasants who can’t afford to just dual wield grav pistols and solo titans

Pathetic

[storm jungle]

Not really.

[celest dome]

For the Xenos/Imperial tech

[fallen plaza]

I'm glad you understood her completely

[storm jungle]

Realistically speaking Eldar guardians shred most guard units lol

it takes like 1-3 shots from a shuriken rifle to kill someone, depending on where you are shot from

[plush mason]

are Ulthway's guardians like that or are they different given the craftworld's history?

[storm jungle]

since like... well it shoots a disk that goes through you and cuts everything

💀

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are a permanent standing army in that case

[plush mason]

they do still need the mask?

[storm jungle]

mostly since Ulthwe is stuck orbiting the Eye of Terror

[storm jungle]

yes

but it has a more passive effect in their case

[errant yacht]

Yep, and I assume with how much weaker the lasgun is, I'm p sure a guardsman might get the idea of "If you see an enemy weapon, take it because it's much better than ours"

[storm jungle]

Lasguns arent weak

its just a space AK

it does the job at its own tier

[dusk patrol]

Oh no guys the Eldar are attacking!

[storm jungle]

GUYS WATCH OUT

[celest dome]

But you don't have ammo for it, don't know how it work...

[storm jungle]

THE IMPERIUM IS ATTACKING TOO

OH SHIT ALSO THE NECRONS

[fallen plaza]

HEY YOU STOLE MY FUCKING DISK AMMO

[plush mason]

stub guns are great

[errant yacht]

Has a trigger. Magazine can't be removed. Good for a few shots. Probably the main things a guard really needs to understand when using a stolen Eldar gun

[storm jungle]

wow they really just did a nerf gun design

i was just memeing

LOL

[outer wave]

It makes sense; its an emotional inhibitor as well as a thing that allows for proper gun handling for combat.

[plush mason]

literal cartoon revolver

[storm jungle]

Me when a Imperiumnut has to learn other faction lore

[dusk patrol]

It has more barrel so it can fire 60% more bullet

It’s science

[storm jungle]

Cave Johnson ahh quote

[outer wave]

Tbf I know so little of the eldar

[storm jungle]

They're pretty neat

[celest dome]

Sure, but now you need to be able to aim it

[outer wave]

I just know "Space elf ninja inspired evangelion based--moderate emotions enjoyers"

[storm jungle]

Evangelion is just for their titans

[outer wave]

Yep yep

[storm jungle]

In reality their culture is like greek, gaelic, japanese, hindu etc

theres a ton of shit

[outer wave]

Oh also exodites

[storm jungle]

Exodites are just wood elves riding dinos

NO LORE

[arctic talon]

Exodites aren’t real

[outer wave]

Dammit....

[plush mason]

can a craftworld eldar become a drukhari or is there an actual biological difference between the two?

[fallen plaza]

I want a gw dinosaur toy

[outer wave]

God that's cool as fuck

[storm jungle]

Yes absolutely in any case

Craftworld eldar (asuryani) can become dark eldar (drukhari) and vice versa

[arctic talon]

Mfw your twin brother dies under mysterious circumstances and now the seer council is telling you to get in the wraith knight

[celest dome]

Lizardmen/Seraphon

[errant yacht]

No scope, but the iron sights are... workable, if imprecise.

[storm jungle]

they do have scope variants

woe, ninjas upon ye

[fallen plaza]

Cock rifle

[arctic talon]

Good luck killing an aspect warrior

[errant yacht]

I think the scoped ones would be much less usable, cuz those might link to a helmet HUD rather than be a physical glass that you put your eye through

[outer wave]

They're probably naturally gifted at aiming anyway

[celest dome]

Even with an ironsight you're supposed to use range setters

[arctic talon]

Lmao

[fallen plaza]

Cock scope

[plush mason]

if the eldar are like fantasy elves they have eyes that see like 2 miles away lol

[dusk patrol]

Mfw you’re sad about your lack of space dwarf lore but then you remember there’s two Eldar factions suffering worse with models and lore

[storm jungle]

Idk most of their models are pretty great

[arctic talon]

Clowns and wood elf’s

[fallen plaza]

Votann aren't real

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

[fallen plaza]

They don't exist

[storm jungle]

their biology is literally alien so

[outer wave]

Votaan vs Exodites, please GW....

[arctic talon]

Eldar have good lore, they just have bad books lol

[dusk patrol]

I was thinking Ynarri but clowns works too

[storm jungle]

Ynnari doesnt exist

[arctic talon]

DAMN YOU GAV

[arctic talon]

Oof

[storm jungle]

and nobody cares about them, not even eldar fans

[celest dome]

+Exodites
(If we want we can add Sea Elves but that's cheating, and the Malerion's one)

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Yeah clowns are honestly a plot device more then anything

[fallen plaza]

Gay thorn strikes again

[storm jungle]

Gav should write more dark angels books

[arctic talon]

They’re cool when they show up