Yea 40k is meant to be inconsistent it's part of the setting
#40k-lore-chat
rocky gale
dusk patrol
You don’t need to have a rule book for why something works to get the general idea and for it to work narratively
queen laurel
At this point it's a quality
It's not 40k if it isn't a contradictory inconsistent mass
Of writing
outer wave
Or incredibly vague with details
spring cairn
it's a quality because it leaves a lot of room for homebrew and shit like that
viral halo
In 40k do you think most people wipe or have a japanese toilet?
vagrant osprey
it's a quality because it leaves a lot of room for homebrew and shit like that
yeah i forgot that warhammer is meant to be a board game
spring cairn
sand paper
vagrant osprey
not a series of books
rocky gale
Also having clearly defined rules isn't neccesarily smart writing
outer wave
In 40k do you think most people wipe or have a japanese toilet?
Servitor paper
rocky gale
Usually all you're doing when defining such rules is limiting yourself to something which you'll end up contradicting later
queen laurel
Yeah defined rules sometimes can make the setting more annoying to understand
spring cairn
the servo licker is the worst fate in the imperium
dusk patrol
Clearly defined rules works fine when it’s meant to be and it’s one author
An example of rules not being defined is stuff like Game of Thrones
outer wave
the servo licker is the worst fate in the imperium
"I am here to lick."
rocky gale
Even Tolkein contradicted his own rules and writing
dusk patrol
Where all fantastical elements are unclear
viral halo
An example of rules not being defined is stuff like Game of Thrones
The GoT books allow you to think for yourself which is a nice touch
dusk patrol
Dragons have shown up a ton in different books and their mating habits aren’t even clear
queen laurel
Doesn't work for the hell's kitchen sandbox we call warhammer unfortunately
viral halo
Dragons have shown up a ton in different books and their mating habits aren’t ev...
reddit told me they fuck planes and cars
queen laurel
Dragons have shown up a ton in different books and their mating habits aren’t ev...
I just settle with the fact that they're egg laying reptiles that can fly and breath fire
dusk patrol
That does seem to be the basic gist of what we know
dusk patrol
reddit told me they fuck planes and cars
My foot is gonna be the dragon to your car in a second
outer wave
You know, Im surprised 40k doesnt make use of more dragonic entities
spring cairn
reddit told me they fuck planes and cars
queen laurel
You know, Im surprised 40k doesnt make use of more dragonic entities
Motherfucker the void dragon
dusk patrol
Heldrakes
queen laurel
Literally one of the most influential things in the setting
rocky gale
Like when he died Tolkien was rewriting the history of the Orcs and their creation, because he wasn't happy with it.
outer wave
Motherfucker the void dragon
The model isnt a dragon
dusk patrol
Void dragon isn’t really a dragon though
outer wave
ITS A MAN WITH A TAIL
queen laurel
>The model isnt a dragon
It's a shard
dusk patrol
It mostly doesn’t fit the setting though the same way
queen laurel
Of course it would look like you after you lose an argument
outer wave
It's a shard
THAT SHARD SHOULD LOOK LIKE A DRAGON, NOT A MAN THING
queen laurel
THAT SHARD SHOULD LOOK LIKE A DRAGON, NOT A MAN THING
You look like a man thing
dusk patrol
First lesson
outer wave
You look like a man thing
😔
dusk patrol
40ktubers suck
That being said maybe the video is good idk but if I had to guess
He probably generalizes and gets a lot wrong
queen laurel
Very few of them are very good
dusk patrol
For the sake of memes and shit
fallen plaza
40ktubers suck
Loretubers are what your on about, i have seen less shit on hobby channels though.
rocky gale
It's true, just like Star wars loretubers, 40k loretubers are almost always wrong.
spring cairn
i watched it and if I recall corectly it's fine and not memey
dusk patrol
Loretubers are what your on about, i have seen less shit on hobby channels thoug...
This is true
spring cairn
or at least not much
rocky gale
Finding a lore channel that's right is a rarity
dusk patrol
If he mentions the “Hurr durr Orks believe it so it comes true”
spring cairn
don't remember
queen laurel
Castrate him and eat his penis
outer wave
Sauteed peni...
queen laurel
I have heard that so many f****** times now
dusk patrol
Ill do the castrating you can do the eating
queen laurel
Like gw at least tell them that the thing has a bloody limit
fallen plaza
Whos eating the peepee 😳
queen laurel
Like they just kind of just left it there to be like yeah they can kind of just think it
vagrant osprey
If he mentions the “Hurr durr Orks believe it so it comes true”
he explained about how they have a warp field,
and how warp has to do with y our emotions and stuff, which is what leads to the imagine = true
outer wave
he explained about how they have a warp field,
and how warp has to do with y ou...
Its not exactly a warp field IIRC, its something else entirely separated
queen laurel
Warp field
outer wave
A gestalt field
queen laurel
No that's their own thing
vagrant osprey
i don't think he called it warp field
queen laurel
Orks have their own sources of energy
vagrant osprey
im just typing what i understand
outer wave
Understandable
queen laurel
i don't think he called it warp field
Yeah WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHH field
It's what it's called
dusk patrol
It’s called the gestalt field mostly
queen laurel
I'm just kidding but it's basically
dusk patrol
And it’s not a like
queen laurel
Yes
queen laurel
But you have to remember one thing it's not related to the warp
dusk patrol
It helps a little
queen laurel
In any sense of the word
outer wave
Damn i love me some reality lube
vagrant osprey
dusk patrol
But it won’t do big things
queen laurel
Okay he did say it's a psychic field not a warp field
vagrant osprey
spring cairn
it has subtle but impactful effects on stuff basically
queen laurel
Yeah it basically needs a medium to work off of
dusk patrol
So like, a gun which may have jammed is less likely to, a rocket which would have normally misfired is more likely to go off correctly
queen laurel
Like paint is the biggest example
dusk patrol
And hit its target with more accuracy
queen laurel
Red stuff going faster
vagrant osprey
Okay he did say it's a psychic field not a warp field
wait so its not linked to the warp?
dusk patrol
It won’t be a huge difference but it helps
queen laurel
Yellow weapons somehow becoming more destructive
fallen plaza
Erm, purple means stealth 🤓
queen laurel
That's why weirdboyz fire off completely green energy
outer wave
The gestalt field basically is written to allow ork tech to work properly
queen laurel
Erm, purple means stealth 🤓
Eat a bag of bricks
spring cairn
most notable effect is on Orkoid weaponry
outer wave
And get rid of weird logistical issues like "Where the gas in my trukk?"
queen laurel
The gestalt field basically is written to allow ork tech to work properly
Pork technology is just very poorly built like
outer wave
Or "Why weapon no work when no bullet?"
queen laurel
You can fill in the missing parts and it will work fine
spring cairn
which thx to the gestalt field becomes somewhat reliable instead of unreliable
vagrant osprey
how did the old ones create ork ancestors with such a limitless power
can't they just imagine all the ctan dying then
queen laurel
how did the old ones create ork ancestors with such a limitless power
The krorks are just constantly in the greatest battles
outer wave
how did the old ones create ork ancestors with such a limitless power
Eldritch-tier technology shinanigans
vagrant osprey
Eldritch-tier technology shinanigans
why can't they just ask all the korks to imagine their enemies dying
outer wave
Cuz that was never its intended purpose
queen laurel
why can't they just ask all the korks to imagine their enemies dying
We told you it's not that strong
dusk patrol
We don’t know is the answer the Old Ones just had some bullshit
queen laurel
The reality bending can only happen to a ridiculous amount of orks
dusk patrol
Same way they made the Eldar and all that
queen laurel
I'm talking enough to basically cover the universe
Even then you would still probably need krorks
For them to actually try bending reality
It gets stronger the more Orks gather so there is a theoretical amount where they can start messing with reality but that's impossible
Or if it's possible basically hard to achieve
rocky gale
And at this point if we're talking Krorks we're talking about the War in Heaven, most of the lore we have on it is very shaky and unclear
outer wave
why can't they just ask all the korks to imagine their enemies dying
You also got to realize that the krorks were built to be strong, tough, and adaptive; if they weren't, they would absolutely have been written to rely on the gestalt field much more so. Also that'd be uninteresting for a wargame where all you could do is imagine your enemies' heads popping with no effort, so also consider that.
vagrant osprey
You also got to realize that the krorks were built to be strong, tough, and adap...
yeah thats why my key takeaway like i said was wawrhammer is a boardgame first story later instead of the opposite
storm jungle
I mean
thats not a takeaway
thats literally what it is
the lore does not matter
its all to sell toys
vagrant osprey
doesn't takeaway mean, "what i learnt from this" ?
spring cairn
the gestalt field is like the fact that they have innate knowledge of engineering built in their DNA, it's meant to help them be self-sufficient in their warmongering
dusk patrol
You can say that for anything though, it’s still thought out
storm jungle
You can say that for anything though, it’s still thought out
Kinda
"heres this tank, its just here"
"heres hte primaris, they were always under mars"
lol
outer wave
It gets stronger the more Orks gather so there is a theoretical amount where the...
Wasnt there a short story of orks where they took over a factory world, and the warboss ended up running the whole facility, so when he died, the entire factory was starting to crumble because the orks believed he was the one operating everything?
I recall reading something about that like years ago
dusk patrol
"heres hte primaris, they were always under mars"
And because the nature of the setting that works fine
storm jungle
And because the nature of the setting that works fine
It still doesnt really stop it form being bad writing.
fallen plaza
The primaris stuff is stretching it a bit i’ll be honest
storm jungle
^
queen laurel
Wasnt there a short story of orks where they took over a factory world, and the ...
The war boss is naturally the one often directing the emotional outputs of the orks
This was also the same in armageddon when Ghaz didn't feel worthy of himself
dusk patrol
It’s not much less goofy than most sci fi settings
queen laurel
Bullets run out a lot more
storm jungle
no one's saying its not goofy though
queen laurel
A lot more vehicles blow up
outer wave
The war boss is naturally the one often directing the emotional outputs of the o...
Right right
storm jungle
more just theres really no need to justify toys coming before the lore
"well it makes sense in universe"
yeah to varying degrees
some terrible, some good, some whatever
queen laurel
"well it makes sense in universe"
Me explaining to someone why committing the most horrible crime like skinning a baby and sacrificing it to a god that is rotting on a chair makes sense
dusk patrol
My point is it’s a lazy answer when you can just answer in universe for a lot of this stuff
storm jungle
Ehhhhh
storm jungle
my point is that the in-universe exampls vary tho
and not all of them are satisfying
so no shit also
"Why does the guard have a new tank"
"they just found it"
"okay how"
dusk patrol
They don’t have it be satisfying but you can still answer with them
dusk patrol
Sometimes it’s a straight up retcon
A lot of times it’s explained in a way which works cause the nature of the universe
storm jungle
Yes, and theres a point where it reaches the stage of cope.
dusk patrol
Like the Rogal Dorn and Votann were more a retcon
storm jungle
the entire reason the Horus Heresy happens is due to bad writing
outer wave
"okay how"
"Under the ground."
storm jungle
"Under the ground."
its more just people trying to defend the dumber stuff that it becomes really obnoxious tbh
spring cairn
obviously the tanks are made out of shards of Rogald Dorn the primarch
queen laurel
"okay how"
A tech priest genocided a village and found it
storm jungle
fallen plaza
Never liked the rogal tbh, didnt like how round it was compared to the older stuff
spring cairn
it's a cool tank
outer wave
A tech priest genocided a village and found it
That tech priest actually created the tank; he just murdered a village of people to make it look like he found it
queen laurel
~~That tech priest actually created the tank; he just murdered a village of peop...
To the dan abnett room
dusk patrol
They just went with a “it’s always existed or been around” retcon to it
dusk patrol
Which idc
gray umbra
Lost stc lol
dusk patrol
It’s a fucking tank
spring cairn
tbh, if you tell me a variant of tank always existed whenever you want to add a new one
it's fine
dusk patrol
I like it enough, some don’t, whatever, it doesn’t exactly shatter the setting
storm jungle
They just went with a “it’s always existed or been around” retcon to it
Its not about it messing anything, its more that you can at least bother to fucking explain where it even fucking came from as a brand new tank
which old codexes tended to do
but 10th edition lore from dexes in general has been garbage so
dusk patrol
Well that’s a whole separate issue of how they do new lore
fallen plaza
The biggest nitpick is ever heard about a lore retcon was how the predator annihilator shouldnt be in 30k because its stc founded by the space wolves
storm jungle
The biggest nitpick is ever heard about a lore retcon was how the predator annih...
most space marine fan argument ive heard
you got like 50 tank types
who cares bruh
outer wave
Lukewarm take: I never liked the tank design in 40k
queen laurel
you got like 50 tank types
Not just 50 types of tanks but 50 types of table top models that needed to be purged
outer wave
I think they look boxy and dumb for the most part
fallen plaza
I enjoy most of it because it felt like a nerd designed it, at least the older stuff
vagrant osprey
oh ya, i want/feel it owuld be cool if there was a chaos god there is basically the embodiment of sloth
in such a universe i imagine there would be a ton of people that would just want to not do anything and laze around lol
think that would be pretty funny, end goal of putting the universe into stasis
dusk patrol
most space marine fan argument ive heard
It’s more just keeping with the original lore which idk if they ever adjusted
outer wave
Not just 50 types of tanks but 50 types of table top models that needed to be pu...
"Here's your 121st Predator tank with a smaller main cannon and 2 side missile launchers instead of the big cool cannon and side flamers"
dusk patrol
oh ya, i want/feel it owuld be cool if there was a chaos god there is basically ...
Nurgle
dusk patrol
He’s basically apathy the god
queen laurel
Yeah nurgle is the god of decay
storm jungle
It’s more just keeping with the original lore which idk if they ever adjusted
I mean its 30k, its already a clusterfuck
outer wave
isn't nurgle more of disease and death?
im genuinekly asking.
He's both
dusk patrol
Yes but there’s multiple things
queen laurel
isn't nurgle more of disease and death?
im genuinekly asking.
Yes but he's also the god of decay and life in a twisted way
dusk patrol
Sometimes contradictory
queen laurel
He represents the cycle of it basically
outer wave
Disease, death, apathy, despair, stagnation via cycles
He's all that
Plus excess of life
storm jungle
The rot consumes
fallen plaza
Theres like two different conversations going on at the same time
rocky gale
Yea, we see a bit of it in AoS in one of the Dawnbringer stories where there's a Nurgle plague going around which causes everyone to just lay down and sleep
outer wave
The rot consumes
Me when the ball itch causes my nuts to fall off
storm jungle
Yea, we see a bit of it in AoS in one of the Dawnbringer stories where there's a...
Bro i gotta start worshipping nurgle
rocky gale
It's not a good sleep
storm jungle
aw man
rocky gale
If I remember right people start like merging with the floor and shit
vagrant osprey
He's all that
hmmmm. wouldn't that make him a weak god but never really losing?
Damn it makes more sense why the total war warhammer games nurgle units have higher hp now
outer wave
If I remember right people start like merging with the floor and shit
Thats cool as fuck
fallen plaza
Me when the ball itch causes my nuts to fall off
rocky gale
Yea like they try to lift up someone who's fallen asleep but their legs have basically melted into the ground
storm jungle
hmmmm. wouldn't that make him a weak god but never really losing?
Damn it makes ...
Nurgoboingo is all about being a bullet/damage-sponge
outer wave
hmmmm. wouldn't that make him a weak god but never really losing?
Damn it makes ...
He's a weird one because he's also based on cycles IIRC from old lore, where in times of really bad depression, he swells in power and girth, but deflates when hope returns
outer wave
https://tenor.com/view/reginald-angry-eating-angry-eating-monster-house-gif-2001...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO--MY BALLS
storm jungle
He's a weird one because he's also based on cycles IIRC from old lore, where in ...
I do love how they made this aspect into Darktide with shit like the dreg flamer too
FIRE
DEATH
RENEWAL
storm jungle
queen laurel
Bro i gotta start worshipping nurgle
cutting off a person's connection to nurgel literally makes them realize they are the most horrificing to exist next to a detroit person right
storm jungle
yep
we saw that in the gathering storm
they literally scream in horror
its hilarious
queen laurel
they literally scream in horror
So what would happen if i also do the same on other chaos worshippers
Do they also go insane?
vagrant osprey
cutting off a person's connection to nurgel literally makes them realize they ar...
you can do that?
fallen plaza
I kinda would have preferred if they have done it more willingly
queen laurel
you can do that?
On rare occasions with some type of interference
Yes
You can cut off a worshippers connection to their god
outer wave
Its the 40k version of "You just woke up from years of regression to realize you gotta start changing your life around or you're really gonna die like this."
vagrant osprey
damn how does that even work
spring cairn
khorne berserker would stop dead in his tracks and try to figure out why was he even angry
outer wave
khorne berserker would stop dead in his tracks and try to figure out why was he ...
He drops his weapons to go meditate on a mountain
young pecan
khorne berserker would stop dead in his tracks and try to figure out why was he ...
"Wait the last time I had a reason to be angry was like 40 years ago, and I already killed the guy"
fallen plaza
I dont think a slaanesh worshipper would change much other than having the deepest post slaanesh clarity of all time before relapsing
outer wave
I love and hate that Khorne's gifts are basically just making you more mad
And maybe some more strength but mostly just stuff to make you angry
queen laurel
And maybe some more strength but mostly just stuff to make you angry
He's the most honest and simple of the gods
fallen plaza
I dont really like the idea of chaos just being direct brainwash
storm jungle
I mean
queen laurel
He will make you into a monster so strong that you can probably rival god
storm jungle
we are talking about literal eldritch gods here
brain-stuff is pretty much guranteed
fallen plaza
Yeah but like, narrative wise its more interesting if it was more willing
outer wave
He's the most honest and simple of the gods
I know, I just love and hate the idea of a god making you stronger because you're angrier somehow
storm jungle
young pecan
Initial corruption is willing, isn't it?
queen laurel
we are talking about literal eldritch gods here
You still haven't answered my question dils what will happen to the other mono gods if their worshippers if you cut off their connections with chaos
fallen plaza
Um
storm jungle
Idk depends i guess
fallen plaza
We dunno
young pecan
It's usually described as "a voice in the back of your head promising of more" whenever I see something about initial corruption
fallen plaza
Which is why i dont like that cutting off connection thing
storm jungle
people think thats fiction? I got one 24/7
young pecan
It sounds like an agreement and THEN unwillful
outer wave
I want an ogryn rebellion faction
Make them kill everyone and take the planet over for the ogryns
spring cairn
scabs are a renegade regiments and they had auxilias so it makes sense
but we could get ogryn labourers joining the admonition later why not
fallen plaza
I just want a boss battle that isnt with puny humans
queen laurel
Like the only dreg ogryn is the plague ogryn but it really doesn't count because well it's a boss
outer wave
Considering it was a cult from deep under, I imagine much of the ogryn labourers are part of the Admonition
fallen plaza
I was caught off guard with how small the darktide bosses are coming from vermintide
spring cairn
they look about as tall to me
dusk patrol
We’re just bigger
spring cairn
spawn maybe smaller, only direct comparison we can make
fallen plaza
They should be taller than an ogryn at least
young pecan
I was caught off guard with how small the darktide bosses are coming from vermin...
At the very least, the bosses not playing out the same is something to celebrate
fallen plaza
Little uns
spring cairn
plogryn is way bigger than the player ogryns
dusk patrol
THAT ONES MIIIIIINNNNEEEEE
fallen plaza
Im talking more lords
queen laurel
I mean it is heavily mutated
young pecan
BoN probably has the biggest total mass
fallen plaza
GRIMNIRRRRR
outer wave
Yeah I think he's talking more about Arch heretics
dusk patrol
I think he’s talking about my foot in your ass
young pecan
Yeah I think he's talking more about Arch heretics
Can we beat up Skarbrand's pansy ass
outer wave
I think he's talking about my lips on yours
spring cairn
they're just humans
dusk patrol
MODS
outer wave
INVERSE HIS NUTS
young pecan
I think he’s talking about my foot in your ass
Hey bro thanks for letting me and Keanu Reeves borrow your yacht, we had lots of fun
outer wave
Can we beat up Skarbrand's pansy ass
If you wish hard enough
dusk patrol
fallen plaza
I mean, other super-soldier programs existed before besides astartes, so we can handwave it instead of stimms were hunting for its some super accessible super juice or something
fallen plaza
Me like big bosses is my implication
dusk patrol
I’m gonna shit yourself
fallen plaza
Try me shitwad
green loom
I like how Danny Trejo is also there
Don't forget Wesley
green loom
Very odd show
fallen plaza
I dunno why but i always thought it would be funny if Stephen Colbert voiced a knorne daemon or something, and he’s just playing the same character he did in harvey birdman
shell mason
Wesley is too obvious to point out
Loved Blade 2 Vampire Boogaloo
storm jungle
Blade 1 and 2 are PEAK
shell mason
yee
rocky gale
I've only seen Blade Trinity
rocky gale
Same for Terminator I've only seen the third one
storm jungle
Actual execution-worthy crime
fallen plaza
Whats terminator?
shell mason
Whats terminator?
shell mason
Actual execution-worthy crime
To the gallows with them
crystal forum
what is the dumbest 40k gun
fallen plaza
You
shell mason
what is the dumbest 40k gun
All of the ork guns, Their nothing but scrap slapped together
celest dome
If we're keeping to Imperium only, I'd say Flechette Blaster/Carbine.
And Neddlers
crystal forum
ork weapons are the easy answer
i want more dumb funny guns
like mechanicus stuff
dusk patrol
Rad rifles are pretty wild
fallen plaza
If we are talking dumb rules wise also, i would go for the spicula rockets in 30k
They basically do more damage the the farther the projectile hits away from the unit
outer wave
Whoa
plush mason
40k twisted metal, there is nothing i dont love about that
raven stone
It is happening people.
Deathwatch is getting rolled into Imperial Agents Codex.
And I am surprisingly happy about that TBH
raven stone
Well ok, not explicitly said but.
Apparently the 10th edition Deathwatch and Imperial Agents datacards
Have been withdrawn from the web store…
storm jungle
Ah yeah in that case its probably likely lol
raven stone
Deathwatch, Agents and Scions in a single list.
My Rogue Trader and Inquisitor can run around with Scions as bodyguards and ride in those sick, sick Corvus Blackstars.
hallow plover
They're probably just going to end up as detachments in a more general codex
storm jungle
Yeah because Deathwatch have never been really like... a proper army have they?
They just have Marines, a dropship... what else?
I legit cant remember lol
raven stone
Yea that is it. They tried giving them access to Primaris stuff but apparently it didn’t make much of a difference.
hallow plover
What are the odds of daemons getting rolled into other chaos factions?
raven stone
I feel Demons are far lower odds TBH
I mean, they did get Vashtorr
And…the Undivided Named Deamon Prince
storm jungle
Yea that is it. They tried giving them access to Primaris stuff but apparently i...
Yeah just found it, man from the way they wank them in advertisement you'd think they are varied lol
guess thats the illusion of marketing
in that case yeah would make sense for them to get rolled into the soup format, i dont really see the point of keeping them as is
hallow plover
Yeah just found it, man from the way they wank them in advertisement you'd think...
That's what the deathwatch player wants you to think
storm jungle
Thats fine, mfers got no joke aside from shouting "xenos" so much it doesnt even sound like a word.
hallow plover
HNOS
storm jungle
AUGHH
raven stone
I mean, when 3 of your 4 kill team options are Primaris and they are STILL not selling well
You know their draw isn’t that big.
storm jungle
Yeah same shit with the Harlequins too.
Neat ideas but wont do well on their own.
and the Inquisition should legit just always be a faction, i got no idea why they dropped the idea earlier on.
raven stone
On the bright side, this means they are unlikely to get scaled up to Primaris.
Meaning old hacks like me can continue my Firstborn obsession lol.
storm jungle
green loom
It doesn't help that their "Primaris" are just basic primaris sprues so it doesn't actually reflect on their sales lol
raven stone
Indeed
raven stone
and the Inquisition should legit just always be a faction, i got no idea why the...
I swear, I will probably lose my head with joy if they somehow end up making it so Scions can actually ride in Corvus Blackstars.
Because it really doesn’t get any more Spec Ops optics than that, even if CBs are normally Astartes only vehicles.
storm jungle
also the Corvus is such a fucking sexy vehicle, relegating to just the Deathwatch instead of Inquisition use as awhole would be so braindead.
Like for us its always been just valkyries or shitty box-ships, PLEASE
raven stone
Yes, Corvus is like…it is absolute perfection in lore, rules AND design
storm jungle
Its the perfect execution of the brutalist marine/flat design with just the right drop of tacticool.
raven stone
Like it is an anime character perfectly designed to appeal to whatever gender appeals to the reader lol
storm jungle
LOL yeah exactly
but we'll see, the Agents of the Imperium thing has been a ongoing hype-rumor ever since the ending of Arks of Omen and Inquisitor Coteaz marshalling forces as a response.
I never really thought it was tied to that but i saw a lot of people jumping to conclusions thinking it might be an upcoming codex from that point lol
raven stone
True…let’s hope we don’t hype ourselves into disappointment…
But talking of Arks of Omen…Boarding action rules getting refreshed and updated as well.
Things are lining up too suspiciously well, lol
storm jungle
green loom
I never really thought it was tied to that but i saw a lot of people jumping to ...
We also got leaks
Of the dex
storm jungle
We have?
green loom
Like a page or so
storm jungle
gimme gimme
green loom
Ugh I'll have to ask
storm jungle
sacred ginkgo
Got anymore of them pixels?
sacred ginkgo
If I were to actually collect an army besides my Death Guard that would be it
storm jungle
I dont think it will get too much attention but as long as theres neat minis ill be happy. They'll probably just update Coteaz or something.
sacred ginkgo
Fervently hoping for ogryns in it so I can field the Rejects
green loom
I feel like we can expect a lot of kill teams in the army
storm jungle
Im gonna assume they will throw the Inq kill team in there but other units like oggies would be neat too
green loom
So maybe you'll get an option for guard or veteran guard
storm jungle
Yeeee, they'd be dumb not to but it is GW so lol
sacred ginkgo
But an actual kitchen sink imperial faction for tabletop is a really cool idea
sacred ginkgo
I have the inquisitorial side of that killteam box but I don't actually have a copy of the 2nd ed rules
raven stone
Going to call it now, the Imperial Agents detachments are going to be the 3 Ordos and a Rogue Trader force.
Given that DW seems destined for the rolling in, the Ordo Malleus and Ordo Hereticus detachments will get a Brood Brothers-like stipulation for taking 50% of their army points from the Grey Knights/Sisters list respectively.
storm jungle
Yeah since it has to be a soup faction it would make the most sense.
green loom
I figure you'll have a base lost of stuff
Then what you pick will let you ally/use GK/Sisters/Deathwatch
plush mason
that cat has a frier haircut, i can no longer unsee that
so where is the Jericho's reach system located?
because it seems like there is a lot of weird creepy mysteries that happen there
shell mason
The fuck's that suppose to mean lol
what am I looking at?
storm jungle
what am I looking at?
read the chat dummy
shell mason
read the chat dummy
Bold of you to assume I know how to read ma'am
storm jungle
so where is the Jericho's reach system located?
The Jericho Reach is located in Ultima Segmentum at the borders of the Imperium. At its center lies the Hadex Anomaly, within which several Daemon Worlds exist. The Jericho Reach is connected to the Koronus Expanse in Segmentum Obscurus through the Jericho-Maw warp gate.
shell mason
I see
plush mason
> The Jericho Reach is located in Ultima Segmentum at the borders of the Imperiu...
wait? so there is a way to get into the koronus expanse in the ultima segmentum?
i assume that warp gate is far from safe to use though
especially if its close to the Hadex anomaly
storm jungle
Its very stable actually
Mostly since its an actual portal construct, with it possibly being eldar in origin
plush mason
hm
celest dome
I thought it was implied to be Old One stuff
plush mason
the fact something like the Hadex anomaly and the dark pattern are both in one of the most important segmentum in the imperium is wild to me
and im sure the inquisition has lost no small amount of sleep over it
ruby ember
First of all they probably wasted hundreds of inquisitors and acolytes in feud, trying to decide what ordos has right of passage on that thing
rocky gale
It is happening people.
Deathwatch is getting rolled into Imperial Agents Codex.
Yea we've known that for a week or two since GW very subtly pulled the Deathwatch Combat patrol and index cards at the exact same time as they pulled all the Inquisitor and Assassin models
sacred ginkgo
First of all they probably wasted hundreds of inquisitors and acolytes in feud, ...
Not really, Xenos were the only ordo in the area around it and I kind of sort of killed their lord inquisitor
viral halo
Yeah just found it, man from the way they wank them in advertisement you'd think...
WE USED TO HAVE SO MUCH MORE IVE HAD IT WITH THIS
Whoever pulled Watch Captain Artemis off the regular plastic range when it's a fantastic modern sculpts is an ASSHOLE
(all the rest of the DW kits were just marine boxes with a DW sprue added into it)
Their unique rules is what defines them as a faction (forming kill teams out of mish mash space marine units) but they kind of always suck unless you take cheesy loadouts
arctic talon
WE USED TO HAVE SO MUCH MORE IVE HAD IT WITH THIS
its getting pulled for the Imperial Agents codex
viral halo
its getting pulled for the Imperial Agents codex
tbh I'd rather have that
arctic talon
Artemis vanished like last week with no warning
they're getting reboxed
like 100%
viral halo
so I can actually field all my inquisitors and kill teams and agents
plush mason
fair
arctic talon
They exist in lore anyways
Sorta
they've been mentioned like a grand total of once after they were created
dense salmon
good to see the same faces in this channel
storm jungle
Oh shit its him
arctic talon
outer wave
Him....
crystal forum
and the Inquisition should legit just always be a faction, i got no idea why the...
real talk are inquisitors even that cool anymore
when was the last time an inquisitor got a book
arctic talon
when was the last time an inquisitor got a book
Vaults of Terra books is a big one
so like 2022
Coteaz takes center stage during Arks of Omen and is arguably the most important Imperial character during it
Prophet of the Waaagh also has an inqusitor heavily involved
dusk patrol
Inquisitors appear all the time
queen laurel
https://fixupx.com/plaion/status/1813955902002622775?s=46
yeah I played both early tests
pretty dang fun
queen laurel
its literally 40k twisted metal
yes
queen laurel
i played one of them
Which one did you play the 2nd test or the first one
plush mason
idk it was an open one
queen laurel
idk it was an open one
did it have customization?
plush mason
no
plush mason
ok
winter vessel
It kinda reminds me of Crossout
storm jungle
real talk are inquisitors even that cool anymore
Yes. Next question.
hallow basin
turning to chaos is double cringe
small depot
The cringe was the chaos we made along the way
misty vector
Just one itty bitty daemonhost to help me defeat chaos better i swear…
storm jungle
The amount of times radicals use daemonhosts is comedic honestly
ruby ember
They probably have flowcharts for that stuff
Every case when use of daemonhost is warranted, and it's just every possible task on the board and painted with green
unreal kayak
turn radical. get eldar GF. live life.
storm jungle
hallow plover
Stay puritanist. The emperor is the only one in my life. Die young a martyr
rocky gale
Turn Radical, date Eldar
Stay Puritan, date Living Saint
Which way Inquisitor?
unreal kayak
Turn Radical, date Eldar
Stay Puritan, date Living Saint
Which way Inquisitor?
Eldar all the way.
hallow basin
shadow plover
I don't get it, Warhammer is literally the least sexy fictional setting
dusk patrol
Coomers find a way
unreal kayak
Me when 40k fans cannot think without their cock for once
Eldar have a interesting culture and good manners. It is not about sex for me...
unreal kayak
Now i feel Bad. Nuke all eldar.
unreal kayak
Im going servitor for this one.
storm jungle
rocky gale
This is what every Puritan fights for
thorn zenith
Me when 40k fans cannot think without their cock for once
when do we ever not think with our little guy
oil up the techpriest and violate him so hard slaanesh is amused
storm jungle
tough haven
oil up the techpriest and violate him so hard slaanesh is amused
Sex is boring for Slaneesh
tough haven
I will be there day 1
Gonna be there before day one cuz iz’ the fastest!
queen laurel
Speed Freeks is goated
WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!
crystal forum
Sex is boring for Slaneesh
suuuuure
queen laurel
I don't get it, Warhammer is literally the least sexy fictional setting
Yeah the only warhammer setting that I will say that has some type of sexual elements would be warhammer old world and AOS to some degree
even then it wasn't a prominent thing
versed ledge
you guys wonder after 40000 years, waffle house still stands on holy terra. even under threat of xenos incursions, and during horus's invasion, they still operate to offer waffles
versed ledge
Yeah the only warhammer setting that I will say that has some type of sexual ele...
I saw sexual, what now?
queen laurel
I saw sexual, what now?
just the general people of the fandom being horny
rocky gale
Turns out that GW is actually capable of making good Old World models when they want to
versed ledge
just the general people of the fandom being horny
Ah, fellow worshippers of the prince of pleasure are here. She who thirst be praised
queen laurel
Turns out that GW is actually capable of making good Old World models when they ...
these things would make fun aos kitbashs for like a fyreslayer Auric Runefather and city of sigmar leader
raven stone
Smol brain: think Radical Inquisitors must mean Demonhosts.
Big Brain: think radical Inquisitors mean Eldar BF/GF.
Galaxy Brain: remembers that the Recongrugators actually exists as the most sane of the Radical Inquisitor factions.
tough haven
suuuuure
Slaneeshi worshippers can’t feel anything anymore unless they’re slaughtering orphans while eating the liver of an extinct Terran animal while also using 18 different hallucinogens
It’s less pleasure meaning sex, and more pleasure like hellraiser
versed ledge
It’s less pleasure meaning sex, and more pleasure like hellraiser
So a sense of pleasure through pain that itself becomes the zenith of carnal joy?
storm jungle
Smol brain: think Radical Inquisitors must mean Demonhosts.
Big Brain: think ra...
Yeah its more that every radical in the lore uses daemonhosts
in reality a radical can literally just be an inquisitor who has common sense and decency but is labelled a heretic for not being a sociopathic puritan
versed ledge
Remember common sense differs greatly in the imperium
queen laurel
in reality a radical can literally just be an inquisitor who has common sense an...
me: suggests a sustainable way to help people and a very good way to investigate heresy
the inquisitor i'm helping:
dense dawn
oil up the techpriest and violate him so hard slaanesh is amused
Who brought a fracking toaster in here
thorn zenith
in reality a radical can literally just be an inquisitor who has common sense an...
i like the tidbit of that and how it was enforced in rogue trader game where being a good person is NOT aligned with being a good imperium person
crystal forum
It’s less pleasure meaning sex, and more pleasure like hellraiser
sounds like somebody who hasnt tried hardcore stuff before
thorn zenith
24 hours edging marathon
boner so powerful you can bludgeon someone to death with it
tough haven
So a sense of pleasure through pain that itself becomes the zenith of carnal joy...
Pretty much
Its less about literal pleasure and seeking new sensations
queen laurel
24 hours edging marathon
i will actually skewer you on your own tusk
thorn zenith
i will actually skewer you on your own tusk
cmere young son i will subdue you with the aforementioned boner
queen laurel
cmere young son i will subdue you with the aforementioned boner
very well then i will just have to cut it off if you won't shut up
thorn zenith
i shall pull the funger where some peens are their own entities and can make independent attacks
do not ask for the science for i do not know nor dare find out
queen laurel
i shall pull the funger where some peens are their own entities and can make ind...
i summoned the shard of a god
your penis is now atomized and cannot be healed
dense dawn
i summoned the shard of a god
That looks sick
dense dawn
your penis is now atomized and cannot be healed
Nothing changed
queen laurel
That looks sick
that's necrons for you
thorn zenith
my penis is now everywhere, in the very air we breathe
therefore yall are suckin me nuts and not even realize
dense dawn
my penis is now everywhere, in the very air we breathe
Everybody is sucking it practically
thorn zenith
Everybody is sucking it practically
good man
queen laurel
my penis is now everywhere, in the very air we breathe
Very well done I didn't want to do this
you will have to read the original the boys comic back-to-back non-stop, after which you read Dan abnett books as a way of to get nutrients, and you will be forced to play rogue trader with only one character and on the hardest difficulty in on permadeath
dense dawn
Very well done I didn't want to do this
you will have to read the original the...
The boys comic is edgy for the sake of being edgy it's too much
Warhammer on the other hand...
queen laurel
Warhammer on the other hand...
i did say dan abnett books
not just the warhammer ones every single one
dense dawn
NOOOOOOO
arctic talon
Warhammer on the other hand...
Warhammer comics are hilarious
dense dawn
Warhammer comics are hilarious
Indeed they are
storm jungle
The boys comic is edgy for the sake of being edgy it's too much
Wdym
dont you like slur-spam as a form of comedy
arctic talon
dense dawn
I meant the Boys dingus
I know breh
I enjoy slur spam however it's not the haha funny way in the boys comics
It's spam it until it gets annoying kind 😂
thorn zenith
Very well done I didn't want to do this
you will have to read the original the...
bruh Dan Abnett books for nutrients imma be reading until the end of time
queen laurel
bruh Dan Abnett books for nutrients imma be reading until the end of time
SUFFER
arctic talon
OOF
queen laurel
OOF
If I had a nickel for the enemy faction winning against the good guys by vote I would have two nickels
this is the second one after the space marine
arctic talon
If they did actually play the game
I can see why lol
because holy fuck the skaven side of the box
is way stronger lol
queen laurel
because holy fuck the skaven side of the box
and i will just admit model wise they cooked
storm jungle
love the title of "Slaughter at Hel Crown" too
queen laurel
OOF
So I can just guess that the 2nd installment for the series is just the skaven going ham
like i saw the book at the black library
i wonder what horrific kinds of silliness would they get into
green loom
Not unexpected but still probably rigged 
queen laurel
Not unexpected but still probably rigged <:smilecat:942293327397662740>
how so
storm jungle
you're rigged
queen laurel
You're thinking GW is doing a storm of chaos
green loom
Probably yeah
arctic talon
I don't think its rigged personally
ngl lol
assuming people played the actual skaventide box
storm jungle
its way too much of a crushing defeat to be rigged imo
arctic talon
emphesis on assuming
green loom
Like this one makes sense tbf since Skaven are far more popular
arctic talon
just looking at this box you can see that Stormcast are kind of fucked lol
queen laurel
its way too much of a crushing defeat to be rigged imo
The rats that basically set the precedent that funny talking explosive technology factions are always beloved by the fans versus the supposed space marines of the setting
yeah they were astronomically cooked
arctic talon
also GW actually making Skaven fun to play
celest dome
just looking at this box you can see that Stormcast are kind of fucked lol
What is that thing
arctic talon
over the course of years for AoS
queen laurel
over the course of years for AoS
which is why insanely boring in total war
arctic talon
What is that thing
terrain
raven stone
Rat things are swarming for sure
arctic talon
Skaven in Total War are all the interesting chaotic parts
taken away from Skaven lol
queen laurel
taken away from Skaven lol
yeah
raven stone
Also means 40k stuff is coming soon, given how they are wrapping up AoS things now
arctic talon
I'm not talking like WHFB or AoS 1.0 misfires
but like
Misfires are a pretty iconic part of skryre skaven
celest dome
Skaven in TW always have been quite strong, because they're not balanced by the same ways that the TT have them
queen laurel
the fact misfires aren't a thing
i can get why they removed that because having RNG on a faction that is on an RTS is a bit annoying but
queen laurel
yeah
arctic talon
and when you do you can start misfiring
queen laurel
like it could allow them to have some interesting applications
queen laurel
and when you do you can start misfiring
like the only chaotic mechanic they have is the flesh lab by throt
where you have a chance to fail your experimentation and turn it into a brain dead warhammer fan
arctic talon
you don't even get the option
queen laurel
even then you can just recycle the process
queen laurel
to start shooting into your own guys
hey shooting a nuclear bomb in my frontline was a totally useful move
green loom
You technically can just start firing into the back of Skavenslaves
queen laurel
to start shooting into your own guys
ohh yeah speaking of wolf was the doom rocket like a special army ability in tabletop
arctic talon
no
arctic talon
They were a fluff only thing
queen laurel
that has like limited uses or something
arctic talon
maybe in this edition of AoS
lol
they'll steal the admech rad bombardment rule from 40k
celest dome
I think there was a module where the Doomrocket was in, like the Dwarf Thunderbarge scenario
green loom
I guess the extra skaven stuff is getting revealed at gencon then?
raven stone
Is there a reveal for Gencon?
Or am I confusing that with Tacoma?
arctic talon
People are assuming Gencon
raven stone
Anything pointing towards agents dex?
Deathwatch and Agents datacards vanished from Web store....
arctic talon
^
storm jungle
Also we got a leak photo
arctic talon
also all the inqusitors + assasins + half the deathwatch kits are gone
storm jungle
which clearly shows Inquisition stuff
storm jungle
yeah but doesnt invalidate it
arctic talon
yeah
queen laurel
some codexes can be in works for years
Yeah they can work on the codexs for short people for years on end but still not give them a damn novel
raven stone
Maybe covering what actually happened to them
arctic talon
mashallah they will get worldbuilding
queen laurel
They're getting one
Did they have any updates on it?
arctic talon
even if that book is a total piece of crap
arctic talon
Did they have any updates on it?
no
queen laurel
I guess that that's the only thing I've heard about it
they're being made by this tyrant person
nothing else
arctic talon
Gav Thrope isn't a tyrant
raven stone
It would be amusing to learn how they slot into the lore as a retcon
Since they now technically were never nommed by the Nids
queen laurel
Gav Thrope isn't a tyrant
i don't know man his face looks pretty close to that of an ogre
arctic talon
Squats are just degenerates gone native
Do not ask a member of the Leagues of Votann their opinion on Squats
celest dome
Squats Homeworld were nommed, that hasn't changed, Leagues were already active and stand offich with the Imperium
raven stone
i don't know man his face looks pretty close to that of an ogre
But Ogres are not necessarily tyrants lol
queen laurel
But Ogres are not necessarily tyrants lol
It's supposed to be a joke on how their leaders are called tyrants you know what forget it
raven stone
...sorry :/
celest dome
There are still Squats communities in the Imperium, but they aren't the same thing as League's Kin
raven stone
Ah ok
crystal forum
chaos squats
arctic talon
Chorfs don't exist in 40k
queen laurel
There are still Squats communities in the Imperium, but they aren't the same thi...
Somehow a majority of them ended up at the center of the universe and lived there for like
thousands and thousands of years
celest dome
Somehow a majority of them ended up at the center of the universe and lived ther...
The League yes, the Squats not really
queen laurel
They're the origin point
wait that's the lore?
celest dome
Chorfs don't exist in 40k
YET
arctic talon
wait that's the lore?
yes
celest dome
They have a branching point, but it's the same thing as considering Apes the Human's anscestor, it's not fully correct, both entities have common anscestors, but both have changed since branching out
queen laurel
yes
ok so votaan are from what i'm getting the original
Like the main dwarf force that survive
squats are often outsiders that left or completely separated from them
crystal forum
the clones
storm jungle
squats are often outsiders that left or completely separated from them
Squats are a slang term
Every space-dwarf in 40k is Votann
queen laurel
Squats are a slang term
so it's a racial slur
storm jungle
Yes
because like
can you imagine calling a short person a "squat" lol
that was more or less the "joke" when they first came out
queen laurel
can you imagine calling a short person a "squat" lol
wassup my Squatta
storm jungle
💀
celest dome
ok so votaan are from what i'm getting the original
Wolves to Dogs
queen laurel
aight good
My brain that has been damaged by severe beatings from a dragon has survived the test of time
thorn zenith
skibidi toilet]
queen laurel
oh hey the goblin king
outer wave
wassup my Squatta
- The Inquisitor, trying to begin negotiations with the Votaan, before his life was ended.
rocky gale
I want to see the light leave my enemies eyes as I place this on the table
queen laurel
I want to see the light leave my enemies eyes as I place this on the table
HOLY RUNT EATING GROT
outer wave
That's a nice ass model
rocky gale
It's 1:6 scale, so it's huge
outer wave
If orks fought against Necrons, would their vehicles be using necrodermis in some of its components or not?
Assuming fighting last for a few years
rocky gale
Isn't Necrodermis invasive though?
outer wave
That's what I'm thinking
But considering it's orks, could they ignore the invasive element here?
crisp heath
Orks are an invasive element
outer wave
I know this is a bad comparison, but their immune systems are good enough that they don't get shit like tetanus when shoving rusty metal into their skin and flesh
outer wave
Orks are an invasive element
True!!!
queen laurel
Assuming fighting last for a few years
meddling with necron tech even by Ork standards is
i'm barely gonna go well
outer wave
They'd at least look pretty snazzy
queen laurel
They'd at least look pretty snazzy
Yeah like they can use armor plating and stuff and they have made sure that they have killed everything and it's off the connection grid
But trying to manipulate necrodermis is well
not gonna end nicely
outer wave
Fair enough
I think it'd be cool to see more ork models using bits and pieces of other races' tech
crisp heath
Fix that ⛈️ 👨 ⛈️
wraith quartz
My big story topic isn't ready yet, but I do my semi-medium topic, that I have a funny anecdote for.
near wasp
The machine spirits are angry today
shell mason
Yo nerds
tough haven
The machine spirits are angry today
Go buy some blessed unguent
Or else you get the taser goad
near wasp
Go buy some blessed unguent
I need blessed oils and incense. I work with security cogiators.... what have i done to blaspheme against the omniessiah to deserve this warp borne techno phage
tough haven
Contact your local techsorcist
near wasp
There is nothing that our magos can do, its the other magos in the great machine who must repair the mistake. Im just stuck cleaning up the mess like a lowly servitor
tough haven
Have you tried blocking and restoring its connection to the motive force?
If so, perform the psalm of iron will to bolster its machine spirit against the foulness of the warp
near wasp
That is not a feasible solution in this instance as it was caused by scrap code making its way into the primary systems
Some arch magos innovated new code and it broke everything on Terra
tough haven
Some arch magos innovated new code and it broke everything on Terra
Until a datasmith with sufficient clearance can inload new blessed dogmatic imperatives that do not deviate from the standard template, repeat the catechism of reverence to apologize to its machine spirit for this blasphemy, and assure it it will be restored to function
Alternatively Pray for deliverance from the omnissiah and hope for category 4 miracle
near wasp
Thank you lord inquistor of the ordo machinum
tough haven
May the Omnissiah guide your path, humble technomat
tough haven
Thank you lord inquistor of the ordo machinum
This blessed hymnal May aid you
And of course from the data choirs of mars herself:
near wasp
Bless thee
young pecan
It is voice of Be'lakor talking to us in the Blood in the Darkness castle, right?
young pecan
It feels almost like he's trying to steer each character towards a different chaos god
Except for Sienna?
That's my guess since he has to venerate each god equally or they'll smite him
outer wave
So why is Bel'akor so interested in the 5 anyway?
Seems weird to be interested in a bunch of relative nobodies
rocky gale
Pretty sure Bel'akor's whole thing in Fantasy is he's like soulbound forced to find and crown the next Everychosen and only when that's done he gets his free will back and can do whatever he wants.
young pecan
I mean compared to the average person, they are insanely powerful
But they're definitely not on the high side of forces in that universe
As much as I hate to admit it
rocky gale
Yea he basically just wants to corrupt people and become a God himself
young pecan
Playing TWH3 made me realize how weak the U5 is compared to many other things
rocky gale
Maybe, but like they're still powerful for "regular" individuals and if they could be corrupted and "enhanced" with Chaos powers they could be valuable assets
arctic talon
^
celest dome
The U5 are arguably quite powerful for being nobodies.
rocky gale
Yea
snow fern
Sienna’s an insanely good Bright Wizard
celest dome
But Be'lakor' Dark Emissary most often started like that too
celest dome
Sienna’s an insanely good Bright Wizard
Compared to TT/lore army Magister, not really
It's like the Psyker we have here
They are quite weaker than the Army Psykers.
storm jungle
Playing TWH3 made me realize how weak the U5 is compared to many other things
the U5 are very much Special Characters/Champion tier heroes.
celest dome
But we're doing smaller spells/techniques
storm jungle
they have slaughtered entire armies at this point and its very much enforced canonically
celest dome
Apart from Kruber don't they all have a Hero career anyway ?
Engineer, WH/WPoS
Sienna is all hero career
rocky gale
Kruber is literally a Grail Knight
celest dome
Who isn't a Hero option for Bretonnia
rocky gale
A Paladin is
young pecan
the U5 are very much Special Characters/Champion tier heroes.
That's kind of what I was thinking, more of melee heroes kinda thing
celest dome
A Paladin is
Which is a different thing from GK
rocky gale
A Paladin is just a very skilled Grail Knight
storm jungle
A common thing in WHF fandom is also that Grail Knights are so OP they are basically space marine tier.
They are ones in lore that have fought greater daemons and such
celest dome
But Kruber isn't a Paladin.
young pecan
One thing to meep in mind is that one unit of chaos spawns in a 20 slot army has 16 of them
rocky gale
But Kruber isn't a Paladin.
plush mason
They are ones in lore that have fought greater daemons and such
iirc one of the first ones was able to block cannon balls with his shield and kill the crew just by looking at them
storm jungle
LMAO
young pecan
One thing to meep in mind is that one unit of chaos spawns in a 20 slot army has...
I'm not sure if that's accurate lore wise in terms of army strength but one of the U5 probably doesn't kill 16 spawns at once unless it's a Master Chief situation where you're weaker in gameplay vs lore
rocky gale
The Wiki does say that all Grail Knights are considered to be Paladins
snow fern
And in lore the handlers spend as much time trying to get the spawn to not eat your own troops as they do herding them towards enemies. Similar for rat ogres
I imagine it’s to make the gameplay more fun
Imagine always needing a skink in your lizards army otherwise you couldn’t ever get anything done.
young pecan
Imagine your lord gives you the "make sure the spawn doesn't kill our homies" job
Definition of cooked
outer wave
@crystal forum I dunno if you're still interested in this game but you did show some interest a couple months ago. There's a closed beta for this game comin' up if thats something you're into https://x.com/FDForeverWinter/status/1814356604751430091
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crystal forum
i thought that was yesterday
snow fern
Open beta for Dungeonborne was yesterday. Forever Winter looks fun though
outer wave
Forever Winter looks really cool but man some of the animation looks very janky
They did a showcase of an execution animation on 4th of July and it looked PRETTY bad
crystal forum
this game is the definition of overhype
snow fern
I keep hoping for a co-op dungeon crawler. Besides Barony
tough haven
Open beta for Dungeonborne was yesterday. Forever Winter looks fun though
how is dungeonborne
cause I like dark and darker
it just feels kinda unmatched sometimes
outer wave
this game is the definition of overhype
Its probably overhyped at this point yeah, but it is cool to see a game like this
snow fern
how is dungeonborne
It’s similar, to DnD. Movements really slow, and class balance is a bit eh.
Double Staff Pyro is crazy, and cause Swordmaster is an elf it can go invisible and just get cozy near extraction
crystal forum
there's thousands of indie game concepts that come out every year. people need to wait for the product to actually start existing
tough haven
It’s similar, to DnD. Movements really slow, and class balance is a bit eh.
Doub...
Would you say its worth getting if I already have DnD?
snow fern
Somebody put out an alpha for a Chao Garden game, I played it, was fun.
Course, it’s been 20 years, since Adventure 2, maybe’s I’m just starved
snow fern
Would you say its worth getting if I already have DnD?
I’s say so, especially since the game’s free.
young pecan
<@334401214437654531> I dunno if you're still interested in this game but you di...
Isn't that the game where you're a nobody caught up in between factions warring with each other
outer wave
Isn't that the game where you're a nobody caught up in between factions warring ...
Yep
outer wave
Its highly ambitious, and I guarantee it'll be a janky game
young pecan
Same with Blight: Survival, I can't wait for that to come out
crystal forum
give it 5 years and people will be actually playing it or it's going to be another forgotten concept
young pecan
Knights and zombie killing is too unexplored for them to mess it up
crystal forum
like who tf played tarkov when it came out (nobody)
young pecan
They gotta go hard with it
outer wave
give it 5 years and people will be actually playing it or it's going to be anoth...
Oh no it'll be for a niche audience regardless
Its just so specific
And the game will probably never be AAA-quality polished
Or at least the ideal AAA-quality polish anyway
crystal forum
legit the only thing that matters with these things is how dedicated the dev team is
outer wave
https://www.fundogstudios.com/ I think they're really new
This is their first game kinda new
You can scroll down here and you'll see what I believe is their entire dev team
crystal forum
the lead designer seems to have worked on big titles so at least that checks out
checked out their linkedin
outer wave
Yeah they got some vet devs
Need to have a Linkeden account to see their profile
Damn
young pecan
Back4Blood made me realize veterancy isn't always as big of a mark as you'd think 😔
outer wave
Yeah it really isnt
crystal forum
that's funny they're so new that some of the employees still have their old job titles from their previous employers
on linkedin
outer wave
Back4Blood made me realize veterancy isn't always as big of a mark as you'd thin...
Tbf they had overhyped themselves as the devs for L4D, when it was like a small portion of the team were vets
4 people of Turtlerock IIRC
crystal forum
Back4Blood made me realize veterancy isn't always as big of a mark as you'd thin...
just use your brain and go check out the actual company details
back4blood was very obviously just marketed in a scummy way
outer wave
Mhmmm
Added with the fact they just dropped support to pick up a new game
Yeah I wouldnt trust them
crystal forum
forever winter doesnt look like a scam from what i can tell at least
outer wave
No I think its a genuine game with genuine folks behind it
crystal forum
kinda sad looking at the linkedin profiles of some of these guys. i see a bunch who got caught in massive layoffs in triple A companies
being fired from playstation after working there for 3 years
outer wave
Sheeesh
tough haven
I’s say so, especially since the game’s free.
oh it is?
that changes things
I was assuming it was like 20+ dollars
young pecan
just use your brain and go check out the actual company details
I wasn't aware that you could check the details that deep until a little while back, that's definitely the move going forward
twilit musk
<@334401214437654531> I dunno if you're still interested in this game but you di...
im so fucking dumb at first glance I thought you linked the darktide beta entry post and was dying
outer wave
im so fucking dumb at first glance I thought you linked the darktide beta entry ...
"Hey I thought you'd be interested in Darktide, since you're here and all. They're doing a closed beta soon."
twilit musk
“well i figured you’d enjoy it since you just say wrong shit about it all the time so”
twilit musk
nah the only place id link the fuckin beta for darktide in this server is vet chat
fuck vet chat on everything bro
tough haven
Fr fr
twilit musk
theorycrafting 🔛 🔝
young pecan
fuck vet chat on everything bro
Vet chat isn't bad at all these days
