Girls when a guy has a whole ass Bionicle collection
#40k-lore-chat
outer wave
storm jungle
LMAO
I still like it tbh
tho i do love how upset american viewers get at the blunt political commentary
"we are nowhere this bad, its so goofy and ridiculous"
💀
outer wave
Yeah its super on the nose with its parallels
storm jungle
Minus the actual americans i guess
I learn all my western political information from trustworthy sources. Like Metal Gear Solid
outer wave
I unironically use reddit for that stuff
Anyway yeah Boys focus on cycle of violence and revenge and shit is kinda neat
green loom
Brb I have to get my 40k opinions from r/HorusGalaxies
outer wave
Its nice they wanna focus more on character stuff rather than making a Glorious Bastards tromp
storm jungle
Boys is atm pretty much HotD'ing itself atm, questionable scenes you mostly gloss over because the acting is spectacular.
storm jungle
It does but im so uncaring of edgy shit i just didnt care so much about it. I dont really get why people are so upset over them either.
Like S1, 2 and so on had even worse shit lol
green loom
Internment camps!
outer wave
I just know of the ||pedophile supe that hits on some teenager and admits it to the crowd||
storm jungle
storm jungle
I just know of the ||pedophile supe that hits on some teenager and admits it to ...
And gets away with it
outer wave
Yep
green loom
Celebs get away with worse lmao
storm jungle
KEK
outer wave
Oh yeah they absolutely do
green loom
Where's Siggy with his list of unpunished celebrity crimes
storm jungle
or like, cyberbullying Starlight's actress due to some medical stuff, or Ryan's actor because... he sounds like hes going through puberty
wow its almost like HE IS going through puberty
dusk patrol
tho i do love how upset american viewers get at the blunt political commentary
It’s just lazy is the thing. Shits gonna age horribly.
storm jungle
It’s just lazy is the thing. Shits gonna age horribly.
Eh i dont care, im here for the actors and violent stuff. I dont care about american politics since its just an endless cycle of goofery.
storm jungle
Why do you think i am saying it as a turkish person
Love paying 50000 bucks to buy some water
dusk patrol
But yeah the shows ok I’ll finish the season
But goddamn I’m so bored of like
The weird sex stuff
storm jungle
KEK
dusk patrol
And it takes up half the fucking episode sometimes
dusk patrol
Yes it is gross that he inserted the thing in Spider-Nots web hole, thank you writers
Really shooting for the uprights there
outer wave
ıts mostly fine as long as it serves the plot, the Tek Cave stuff was **um**
The what now
storm jungle
Yes it is gross that he inserted the thing in Spider-Nots web hole, thank you wr...
Its even worse because the Webweaver having a web-hole on his lower back was already done with a Venture Bros character
storm jungle
The what now
||Tek Knight basically has a sex dungeon under his manor, also admits his ancestors were slave catchers... which uh, yeah checks out||
rocky gale
The bit that gets me is the show runners being like "This is the funniest thing we've ever done" and then it's just ||a rape scene||
dusk patrol
The shows becoming a bit like the comics now and not in a good way
outer wave
||Tek Knight basically has a sex dungeon under his manor, also admits his ancest...
Yike
viral halo
I don't watch the show anymore but that scene destroyed me
dusk patrol
It’s so goofy
green loom
The boys is like if the like 3 incest focused episodes of Rick and Morty where a full series instead
storm jungle
I mean
viral halo
Garth Ennis fucking sucks btw
dusk patrol
I liked the show because it wasn’t like the Ennis version
storm jungle
people who complain about the content of it has no idea how bad his stuff is.
viral halo
people who complain about the content of it has **no idea** how bad *his* stuff ...
read crossed lmfao
shadow plover
oh the show is infinitely better than the comic, the show is pretty average
dusk patrol
And it’s slowly become more and more like it
storm jungle
read crossed lmfao
I read every single cross comic
they are awful
both ennis and non-ennis ones
dusk patrol
The worst part
rocky gale
Garth Ennis is the worst thing my country has produced tbh
dusk patrol
Is the ennis ones are the best
viral halo
I read every single cross comic
same, was so disturbing lol
storm jungle
Is the ennis ones are the best
they really arent
green loom
To disconnect from horrible shows, here's a really good cat
storm jungle
||"Lets have some cannibal-rapists tore open a child apart while her parents get ass-raped"||
dusk patrol
The others were somehow worse for me. I didn’t finish them all
viral halo
||"Lets have some cannibal-rapists tore open a child apart while her parents get...
IS THE FIRST ISSUE
storm jungle
^
dusk patrol
It was just goofy
storm jungle
the only good one is Wish You Were Here which is actually great and has proper storytelling
and the focus is more the people than gore
viral halo
The worst scene in crossed is the comic book store lol
dusk patrol
He literally made it betting with a friend who could make the most fucked up comic
rocky gale
Wish you were here is the only one I've read
rocky gale
The most fucked up part is that someone recommended it to me as a porn comic
storm jungle
LOL
rocky gale
and I read it like 
storm jungle
Came for the porn, stayed for the scottish people shooting naked infected hooligans on the highlands
dusk patrol
With jiz bullets
viral halo
Man crossed is so bad lol
dusk patrol
Don’t forget those
dusk patrol
“I do not wish to hear it”
storm jungle
Otto is a mood
rocky gale
Otto facing the consequences of what he's spent the last 30 years planning
dusk patrol
Although he did make his own bed
dusk patrol
Trueeee
green loom
Like what does he even do
dusk patrol
Especially those white haired freaks
storm jungle
KEK
dusk patrol
Like what does he even do
Sits in his tower and contemplates pensively
green loom
At least Robert was just a shitty dad and was having fun but like what does Otto do, fkn eat grass outside the city?
dusk patrol
Tbf they’re not the worst kids
storm jungle
tho i approve of domestic violence when its against Cersei
dusk patrol
They’re not good but
storm jungle
storm jungle
Also yeah this is why i like HotD/Early GoT in general
you can just talk about everyones flaws
or how cool they are
they are actual characters
green loom
Do you like Green Daemon or Black Daemon
dusk patrol
It’s not like Rhenyra is surrounded by the best dudes either
rocky gale
As in like Daemon Blackfyre?
storm jungle
"this decision of hers makes no sense"
dusk patrol
Daemon is a psychopath
storm jungle
Me when people are irrational and make bad mistakes
green loom
As in like Daemon Blackfyre?
No as in Daemon and Aemond Targaryen
rocky gale
Oh
dusk patrol
The Seasnake is pretty cool but his wife is kinda fucked up too
Also ffs Rheanyra
Could you not
rocky gale
Wonder if they'll make a show about the Blackfyre rebellion
green loom
"I will murder 5000 peasants on holy ground but I draw the line at Regicide"
rocky gale
I need more Targs to simp for
storm jungle
How can i care about Targs when the Blackwoods and Brackens exist
rocky gale
Brackens better
storm jungle
BORDER VIOLATION
green loom
How can i care about Targs when the Blackwoods and Brackens exist
Bloody Ben! Let's goooo!
dusk patrol
WHO TOUCHED THE STONES?!
rocky gale
I was waiting for the two of them to kiss tbh
storm jungle
**WHO TOUCHED THE STONES?!**
One thing i love about that scene is how the sides that start the squabbles are literal teenagers
storm jungle
YEAH
dusk patrol
I’m sure that helped relations
dusk patrol
They got a lot of those
rocky gale
He kinda did
green loom
Unfortunately it's very one sided because the Brackens always lose since George likes the Blackwood's colour scheme a lot more
rocky gale
Unfortunately it's very one sided because the Brackens always lose since George ...
Brackens are just better though
green loom
Blackwoods tick too many of my boxes
dusk patrol
I liked Omniman until I saw him tonguing the bug lady
storm jungle
LMAO
rocky gale
I liked him more
storm jungle
I do love how later on Thragg is like
"bro this planet's women are a literal infinite soldier glitch"
smartest antagonist ive seen
dusk patrol
Churn em out
storm jungle
He really did that RTS grindset i can respect it
dusk patrol
I need to just read the comics
rocky gale
Doesn't he buy an entire apartment complex for all his families?
storm jungle
Uh no thats another viltrumite iirc
dusk patrol
I read a bit, Battle Beast showing up in season 1 was fucking hilarious
Literally one of the most dangerous dudes in the universe
storm jungle
Battle Beast showing up is like a underhive ganglord hiring a custodian to kill a vigilante
💀
dusk patrol
Showing up for like, a street level villain
soft thunder
Wonder if they'll make a show about the Blackfyre rebellion
That's probably going to be a part of the Dunk and Egg TV series if it gets made, and if GRRM adds more books to that series
storm jungle
I need to just read the comics
They are long but absolutely worth it btw.
Like theres some bumps
but the plot/story itself is great
dusk patrol
Battle Beast showing up is like a underhive ganglord hiring a custodian to kill ...
It’s almost more like, Angron shows up to beat up an enforcer for a hive gang boss.
storm jungle
YEAH
rocky gale
That's probably going to be a part of the Dunk and Egg TV series if it gets made...
Daemon Blackfyre better be atleast as hot as Aemond and Viserys (GoT not HotD)
dusk patrol
Get bored of how easy it is, leaves
storm jungle
literal 40k-tier villain
theres a later on scene where he fights ||with Thragg and uh, since hes injured, Battlebeast also disembowels himself to make it a "fair fight"||
what a fucking trooper
dusk patrol
I wish they’d explain how the fuck the dude got him there
storm jungle
Same but not gonna lie
the fact that its not explained
makes it more hilarious imo
dusk patrol
It’s funnier if it’s not yeah
rocky gale
He put an advert on Craigslist
storm jungle
both of what you guys said prob
queen laurel
I wish they’d explain how the fuck the dude got him there
Yeah like, battle beast's literally so dangerous it can match one of the strongest viltrumites in the universe
dusk patrol
Legit he’s the kinda guy who would show up if there’s a good enough fight, he’s probably easy to find
dusk patrol
Space Craigslist
dusk patrol
It’s very out of left field
Cause everyone else is pretty normal earth villains
And then Thanos shows up
rocky gale
He was bored and had a free day
queen laurel
Cause everyone else is pretty normal earth villains
Yeah it's like being a random fortress world being sieged by orks then the literal bane of armageddon shows up
dusk patrol
Maybe he really likes tacos and needs a good supplier
queen laurel
Ghaz
You need to really make up a lot of explanations to even explain why he was there
But i think promise of combat is good enough
He is a very simple guy
dusk patrol
That’s my thing too, Invicible did the concept of superheroes being bad or having flaws and the dangers of their powers way beyond the boys
Because they’re not all pricks
dawn dune
blood axe could show up anywhere.
dusk patrol
It’s much bette execution
dawn dune
half of his boyz are mercenaries anyways.
dusk patrol
Irredeemable is also a better done execution
queen laurel
That’s my thing too, Invicible did the concept of superheroes being bad or havin...
Would be fun to try his luck with this version of monster girl i am going to spoil it because it is quite deep in the comics
green loom
Just don't let Dr Disrespect near her
arctic talon
Just don't let Dr Disrespect near her
sacred ginkgo
Holy shit that is really funny to like 6 people
arctic talon
Lol
fallen plaza
Amazing, another pedo influencer, wowie.
cloud flame
fuckin ell
winter vessel
I never much found the guy to be entertaining
dense lynx
agree
arctic talon
I’ve never seen any of his content lol
dawn dune
Idk why it is in almost every skin attempt they've made for lore accurate armor designs they seem to always mess it up. The chest Icon is wrong, the colors are only half correct, and the overall armor design only the helmet is right
fallen plaza
I mean, look at it
If they made the enforcer a 100% accurate a lot of stuff would clip
dawn dune
it looks like a cheap replica of the armor.
arctic talon
Idk why it is in almost every skin attempt they've made for lore accurate armor ...
The chest icon is meant to be diffrent
Btw
The palanite enforcers have an aquilla because that’s what palanite(the hive) on necromunda uses as it’s symbol
fallen plaza
Tbh i never liked that aquila kek
fallen plaza
But yeah, personally i find the armor an improvement to the original model
But im biased so
dawn dune
I bought the armor. I am just confused as to why they always seem to do something different.
arctic talon
Idfk
It not being the same as the palanite armor makes sense though imo
since 2 dif hiveworlds
fallen plaza
With the enforcer i can understand
arctic talon
It being similar is a bit odd
but w/e
Palanite armor is prolly the bulkiest flak armor we've ever seen in the setting lol
either that or the Macabrian armor
dawn dune
Even when they made the krieg armor they got the proportions of the helmets wrong, and they didn't have a tube that connected from the helmet to the oxygen bag.
fallen plaza
The chest plate in the model is like one piece so in game it will clip a lot
arctic talon
the krieg helmet idk lol
I get why there's no connected tube
but the shape is goofy lol
its based on a British gas mask
dawn dune
There are ways to make the tube not clip, but it'd take a bit of effort. They seem to be putting in almost the least amount of effort in their model designs is what I am noticing.
arctic talon
While the DKOK minis have an american gas mask
arctic talon
There are ways to make the tube not clip, but it'd take a bit of effort. They se...
Its more so they'd have to have 2 dif things for if you're wearing the chest plate or not
imo
dawn dune
They could make it to where it has an alternate design for if you are wearing the chestpiece or not.
dawn dune
like the tube is connected if you have the chestpiece and isn't if you aren't wearing the full set.
fallen plaza
I can see it work with a tube without the need for alternate options
dawn dune
Considering how expensive the krieg set was, it should've been designed better.
arctic talon
I don't disagree
fallen plaza
Make the tube just dangle there, no connections just a physics object
dawn dune
I just don't know why they think going with custom designs is better than following the actual designs. Some of them look alright, but none of them have been god tier imo. They are all bad in some way.
fallen plaza
but also I think most of the non pennance cosmetics
The ones on the f2p shop look neat, there are some good options, still expensive though
dawn dune
as for the palatine armor bulk, I personally don't think it'd clip that much, and personally they just need better model designers and animators if they have an issue.
fallen plaza
I mean, the chest and shoulders are like one piece
Idk how well that would translate in game
dawn dune
yeah, but the shoulders are elevated enough that clipping wouldn't be that bad.
like unless your arms are able to go upwards enough to clip through the shoulder.
fallen plaza
I mean, if your arms move back and forth like with melee, that might be an issue
Think the pickaxe overheads or the crusher
dawn dune
might be an issue, but not a bad one considering how no one would really pay attention to that.
fallen plaza
Yeah fatshark is just kinda apathetic to cosmetics, been this way since the vt days
dawn dune
either way, I just find it weird. I personally think it could work, and making the armor a bit malleable to stretch mildly during certain movements wouldn't be bad.
dawn dune
IT'S A DICTATORSHIP
dawn dune
That's actually kind of sad af that he said that. Considering that when this game was first coming out the owner stated how much he loved warhammer and wanted this game to be as lore accurate as it can be while still be a video game. It's like the owner sold out or something.
I watched all the darktide videos where the devs wanted this game to be something good.
dawn dune
Now that the game has come out it seems they've just 180'd.
fallen plaza
I still think they are passionate, its just that with how they work its hard to get anything done so cosmetics are probably a chore to them, not that im condoning them.
Took them two fucking games to add a loadout system officially
dawn dune
Well look at the mod "Extended Weapon Customization" they promised customizeable weaponry, and stated they didn't have the funds and then they didn't want to do it in general. Dude made the mod by himself and it works pretty good. They could easily pay the man for his assets and add it to the game, but they don't.
I mainly just want the option to add a bayonet to any weapon.
fallen plaza
Stack bayonets on top of bayonets
dawn dune
The game is fun, and I enjoy it that much is certain, but I can't act like they haven't just 180'd on some things or sometimes mildly lie about things.
fallen plaza
cough dan abnett cough
dawn dune
I griped way too much in this lore channel. I really wish they'd make a sequel with orkz. Despite their numbers and efficiency in combat, we are taking down mf beasts of nurgle which are known to kill space marine squads by themselves. I personally think a mob of sluggas would be childs play.
it is kind of funny though that nurgle is like the only chaos god we can fight considering the others have easier conditions for summoning demons while nurgle has to wait for the plague to spread to a certain degree until nurgles garden pops up and even then things like Plague Bringers are usually evolved poxwalkers and can take up to 100 years to evolve, or depending on how fast the plague evolves to a very high degree to be able to summon them.
I am curious if the plague will spread far enough to be able to bring lesser daemons into play.
Considering the Beast of Nurgle is an abberation and is 100% required to be summoned.
or at least I think that's the case.
sacred ginkgo
Wolfer mentioned ''Witches"
sacred ginkgo
I would say close enough but those are vastly different in 40k
storm jungle
That's actually kind of sad af that he said that. Considering that when this gam...
I mean this is still one of the best warhammer 40k games out there, i dont know why you are speaking like its a disaster minus the launch which is pretty much every fatshark title lol
storm jungle
Well look at the mod "Extended Weapon Customization" they promised customizeable...
Also again, everything added to this game goes through GW, Fatshark doesnt get a say in what they can or cannot add to the game, its the parent company's product first and foremost.
Something probably happened behind the scenes that caused it to get removed, modders dont exactly work under NDA either.
forest orbit
Didnt one of the devs confirmed GW was the one that said no to the shirtless cosmetic option because it wouldnt be "lore accurate"
storm jungle
Yes 
dusk patrol
It would look pretty dumb
storm jungle
Ehhh that depends. 40k has much goofier cosmetic options than just being bare chested.
But the underwear/tank top doesnt help
💀
dawn dune
GW finds a way to ruin things it seems.
dusk patrol
More like they made sure it wasn’t smh
storm jungle
Yeah remember we got no idea whats going on behind the scenes half the time lol
that shirtless top correction is just the tip of the iceberg
dawn dune
no barechested shit, meanwhile the field chirugeon from a feral world who were similar to indians be like.
dusk patrol
I’m very ok if they keep the cosmetics to in universe stuff only. Don’t need people to run around as Anime girl head marines and have infinity gauntlets or whatever
dusk patrol
no barechested shit, meanwhile the field chirugeon from a feral world who were s...
That’s guard
And it’s their thing
dawn dune
also wasn't there an ogryn one that was pretty much barechested it just came with a shoulderpad?
dusk patrol
Oh wait we’re not talking about Space Marine
storm jungle
LMAO
dusk patrol
Ok now re read it for funnies
storm jungle
Idk why it is in almost every skin attempt they've made for lore accurate armor ...
Also another thing with this, Fatshark doesnt do these cosmetics, its outsourced by another company.
Because again they arent a huge studio and are also probably spread across 3 games at this point
and the enforcer armor is probably THE most accurate set they released so far, its not 100% mini-accurate but its at least 90% there, ive never seen driptide users for once not be unhappy about something and it kinda scared me
dusk patrol
I don’t love all the cosmetics but mostly their fine, my issue is more the price
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much same
dusk patrol
And how they’ve reduced the sizes of the deals too
storm jungle
i forgot the last thing i bought before the enforcer set dropped lol
well that and like
the penance gear slaps way more in some cases
winter vessel
Last thing I bought from the store was the Elsyian Drop Troop cosmetic set for the Vet.
green loom
"lore accurate designs" 
Like, the Death Korps mask looks slightly different
(Not like it hasn't already gone through like 7 different iterations)
fallen plaza
Reddit regiment
sacred ginkgo
Seeing a full krieg outfit in a game with a helbore and shovel and knowing full well I am going to have to carry their ass
arctic talon
I don’t like catachan
fallen plaza
I have met a grand total of 3 people who like krieg + play the army
The one person who likes solar auxilia and has the army
arctic talon
The one person who likes solar auxilia and has the army
Broke
Most expensive army + the worst army
arctic talon
The horde of AP4 in question
Solar Auxilia paying premium prices so they can get 4+ saves 
Oh also pretty much every source of AP3 in Solar Auxilia died
fallen plaza
The new starter box is so laughably small
You need like 3 of them to start a proper army lmao
arctic talon
playing Solar Auxillia is literally self flagellation
arctic talon
Shattered legions are absurdly good
if you build that one stupid strat
You see its lore accurate Iron Hands
I have like
one morbillion dreads
arctic talon
Simply play mechanicum
fallen plaza
Unleash the grav guns
arctic talon
and bring less minis
then the Custodes player
and then watch the custodes player cry as you beat him to death with Robots
(you can also do this but worse in 40k)
fallen plaza
An acceptable death
fallen plaza
(you can also do this but worse in 40k)
As most things are in 10th
storm jungle
Reddit regiment
I was defending the mask haters because it was legit bad before pausing for 10 seconds and going.
"Wait i dont like Krieg, im a Steel Legion fan."
arctic talon
As most things are in 10th
Nah
storm jungle
arctic talon
its worse since you can't spam as many robots
azure knoll
alpha legion is a xenos puppet instead of a chaos one, the iron warriors are creepy, bitter, evil men, the night lords are creepy, evil men, huron blackheart is a bitter man and fabius bile is a creep
arctic talon
and you never could in 40k lol
storm jungle
alpha legion is a xenos puppet instead of a chaos one, the iron warriors are cre...
They were xenos puppets in 30k
arctic talon
Kastellans have never been battleline or a troops option in 40k
storm jungle
now they are chaos puppets in 40k
azure knoll
are they?
azure knoll
ah yeah okay i get the reason
dusk patrol
They didn’t care about the Cabal
azure knoll
gw hates designing gray character models for humanity
dusk patrol
They just used the info for their own ends
fallen plaza
however in 30k
On the off chance i find someone to play with im switching to 1st ed rules
azure knoll
it's either regular space marine or a chaos corrupted one with horns and spikes
azure knoll
can i please just have a regular dude man renegade space marine
storm jungle
I got like 5
dusk patrol
Skorr?
arctic talon
maybe some chaos bits
storm jungle
you can make em for free
fallen plaza
you just use marine minis
Yeah but like, solar are good there so 
dusk patrol
azure knoll
well... it's alpha legion
azure knoll
that would not be that far out of the realm of possiblity
fallen plaza
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/1/12/Autilon_Skorr_Consul-...
Im sure it looks better in bare resin
storm jungle
are they?
Basically "realistically" speaking the Alpha Legion would absolutely have loyalist and traitor elements.
The issue is; this isn't a lore game. Its a tabletop game.
And Alpha Legion are a fully Chaos faction. Its why every representation they get in modern 40k is them destroying/fucking over Imperials, thats their entire gimmick. And any person who says these acts are "secretly loyalist actions" are on giga-tiers of copium.
azure knoll
if i can't have fluff in a game, i'm finding a person that allows me to have fluff to play with
storm jungle
Its more or less factoring in your normal AL fan who wants them to see guerilla/spy warfare tactics against the Imperium instead of being "noble hero spies".
you WILL drink your cyanide pill
fallen plaza
It’s an old old model anyways
There are some from that era that hold up well narik dreygur for example
Or the erabus model, which i think still is gorgeous
dusk patrol
There’s a couple, Skorr is quite a bit older and his model just wasn’t the best
arctic talon
I won't stop anyone from playing LSM painted as AL
tbh
anyone who does stop someone from playing over that
is a dickhead lol
dusk patrol
Lore wise it’s not impossible I just push back when people act like it’s at all normal
dusk patrol
What would stop you from playing with someone purely based on models
If they were covered in poop
That would be a line for me
arctic talon
What would stop you from playing with someone purely based on models
If they were covered in some sort of gross substance
fallen plaza
Cant top that
dusk patrol
Also the smell of the other person
dusk patrol
I’d say nazi stuff but I’ve played WWII tabletop stuff lol
arctic talon
don't smell like shit policy
dusk patrol
Any weird stuff though like that
dusk patrol
I have only once
arctic talon
I’d say nazi stuff but I’ve played WWII tabletop stuff lol
tbf WWII stuff is a dif. context
imo
green loom
It wouldn't be based on models
storm jungle
I’d say nazi stuff but I’ve played WWII tabletop stuff lol
LOL
arctic talon
Usually if I don't play with someone its bcs they're an asshole
green loom
But the models might give you an idea of what you're in for lel
Vibe check the dude and you'll be golden
fallen plaza
Putting anything trendy or modern on a model is often very tacky, like putting american flags or making armies based entirely on internet memes
green loom
Lemme fetch Commissar Gamza's army of America marines
fallen plaza
Lemme fetch Commissar Gamza's army of America marines
That is EXACTLY what im referring to
arctic talon
no reason to turn down a game just bcs someones minis are tacky
green loom
In truth the dude will probably out himself as something to not interact with early on lol
arctic talon
me when I get a hit of that IRL Plaguebearer stench
worst part about college
on god
green loom
In the hypothetical scenario wherein I play tabletop, I wouldn't turn down a krieg player even if I loathe and hate and revile and abhor and detest them
storm jungle
LMAO
arctic talon
I have had the misery of having to take an exam next to someone
arctic talon
who smells like they haven't showered in years
arctic talon
💀
storm jungle
worth the disqualification
arctic talon
Do not assault your opponent
green loom
I have had the misery of having to take an exam next to someone
I lived with one for a year
Like
storm jungle
Do not assault your opponent
the Emperor told me to do it in a dream
green loom
To give you an idea
fallen plaza
Do not assault your opponent
I think you can if you field something like fury of the ancients, i checked the rules on that so yeah.
green loom
My dad, who like, guts pigs and other weird shit
Recoiled at the dude's smell
that's how bad it was
arctic talon
I think you can if you field something like fury of the ancients, i checked the ...
I think if someone plays Heresy and try hards like that they're a loser lol
green loom
I'm not kidding when I say the dude smelled like dung
arctic talon
fallen plaza
I think if someone plays Heresy and try hards like that they're a loser lol
I remember stories of people fielding entire armies of tyrant siege terminators back in 1st
arctic talon
I think if you do it with permission
sure
if both players want to try to break HH lol
(it is not hard)
fallen plaza
(it is not hard)
Just play custodies lol
green loom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTomMm61Ixw
Probably tbfh
dusk patrol
if both players want to try to break HH lol
“No you don’t get it my entire detachment is made of dreadnoughts and grav moritats”
It’s their lore
Dual grav moritats are goofy as hell
I love it
arctic talon
Me when I kill a titan
azure knoll
does what'shisname other techpriest mission giver speak in albinaruic chants?
azure knoll
the cadence he speaks in sounds sing-songy
rose thorn
chat how do i explain gulliman is my favorite primarch to my freind
his favorite is vulkan
azure knoll
reliable
it's his thing
people say it's spreadsheets or plot armor but he knows his shit
soft thunder
idk the lore but my impression is that they both care about the common person.
Vulkan would die to save a commoner's life. Guilliman would devote his life to improving the commoner's quality of life.
azure knoll
that would be a thing of all loyalist primarchs i fear
while vulkan would die to save a single person's life, and i think he'd do it even if he wasn't a perpetual, and others wouldn't, it's not a good enough distinction for why people would like guilliman
i genuinely just think guilliman makes reliable systems that, if operated correctly, create and sustain empires
and the best way to sustain an empire is to 1. have a well supplied army and 2. to have happy people
arctic talon
that would be a thing of all loyalist primarchs i fear
Lion def doesn’t give a shit about the common person
Same with Ferrus but Ferrus is dead
misty brook
and the best way to sustain an empire is to 1. have a well supplied army and 2. ...
Yea, but the Imperium is far too large on effectively being ruled. More so with the rift spilting the two in half.
azure knoll
i did forget about lion when typing that message
azure knoll
Yea, but the Imperium is far too large on effectively being ruled. More so with ...
wasn't the question the original person was asking
misty brook
Same with Ferrus but Ferrus is dead
His not quite dead. But he is in eternal suffering screaming in pain on Fulgrim's palace as a head.
arctic talon
Oh also sanguinius(sorta)
Sanguinus didn’t really care for the common person
He wanted Baal and it’s moons to be kept as a shithole
azure knoll
and do i have the wrong impression of ferrus being a very "i give those that wish to help themselves a way forward" kinda person?
arctic talon
Sort of? I guess?
azure knoll
which in my mind is caring about the common person
soft thunder
I mean most of the loyalists still left their home worlds as death worlds. 'hard times breed hard men blah blah blah'
azure knoll
as long as the primarch won't literally stomp a capable human dead to go kill a heretic (e.g. the lion), i consider them to be nice to people
azure knoll
I mean most of the loyalists still left their home worlds as death worlds. 'hard...
most primarchs were closer to their sons than the regular person
arctic talon
I mean most of the loyalists still left their home worlds as death worlds. 'hard...
Vulkan tried to improve nocturne
soft thunder
Vulkan tried to improve nocturne
oh? I did say i didn't know the lore lol.
azure knoll
like i guess you could build above a volcano to improve the livelihood of volcano denizens
arctic talon
oh? I did say i didn't know the lore lol.
Fair enough
azure knoll
but like... you're still a volcano denizen
arctic talon
He did try to improve the like
General living conditions
It’s just that nocturne is still a volcanic hellhole that’s impossible to terraform properly
soft thunder
did any other loyalist try to improve their death world homes? Fenrir and nocturne seem shit out of luck even w/ space-fantasy terraforming
azure knoll
ain't it fenris?
soft thunder
close enough, and yes i think so
arctic talon
did any other loyalist try to improve their death world homes? Fenrir and noctur...
Lion but it was mostly to produce more wargear for his legion
He got pretty far before the whole uh
World explode thing
soft thunder
chat how do i explain gulliman is my favorite primarch to my freind
but ya reliability is a defining aspect of guilleman. Reliability and stability, knowledge in application.
misty brook
did any other loyalist try to improve their death world homes? Fenrir and noctur...
Rogal Dorn did. Though we don't know how much exactly, except Rogal Dorn giving them more advanced technology.
crystal forum
did any other loyalist try to improve their death world homes? Fenrir and noctur...
a lot of the primarch backstories is just them landing in a shithole and turning those planets into productive worlds
winter vessel
a lot of the primarch backstories is just them landing in a shithole and turning...
Unfortunately not Mortarion in the "productive" sense. Man landed in a literal dumpster, adopted by a tyrant, rebelled against said tyrant, found a scythe and started swinging. after which a Middle Eastern Super model clad in gold armor gave Morty a choice, but went "nah just kidding" and did the equivalent of a kill steal in a COD lobby
dusk patrol
He did make it more productive, it just still sucked
But the lack of evil mutant wizards did improve the real estate values
winter vessel
Typhus: “I got it! Let’s go to Nurgle!”
Mortarion: “No let’s save that for when we’re selling real estate…”
willow belfry
tough haven
So for the average imperial guard regiment, what are the tactics against the various factions they face?
fallen plaza
You probably want to read some imperial armor books if you want anything detailed, because there isnt exactly a set way to fight any faction
thorn zenith
if you want the really really stereotypical stuff, stand em up in a line and hope for the best
green loom
Skarsnik is pretty fun
queen laurel
Skarsnik is pretty fun
The goblin?
green loom
Ye
queen laurel
Yeah he's a very good character
celest dome
Shame he got forgotten for in the ET
green loom
I might be able to swipe Karaz a Karak from Thorgrim
shadow plover
That's hot
queen laurel
That's hot
Is that a motherfucking genestealer mechanicus
shadow plover
dusk patrol
Hey if the hive fleet itself ain’t interested in them, maybe he did something right.
storm jungle
I do like how the genestealer patriarch also just goes
"Yeah just let him do what he wants idc"
dusk patrol
Mfw dad won’t answer my phone calls
queen laurel
"Yeah just let him do what he wants idc"
The fact that it mutated enough to literally decide that, should i allow him to make super aberrations or should i just try to control him
You know what i'm going to let him cook
storm jungle
literally
celest dome
Hey if the hive fleet itself ain’t interested in them, maybe he did something ri...
When the step dad really did step up 
storm jungle
BRUH
dusk patrol
The fact that it mutated enough to literally decide that, should i allow him to ...
“Well shits already fucked, it can’t get worse”
Morgan Freeman: “But as it would turn out, it could in fact, get worse.”
shadow plover
If I can't get my local gaming buddies to pick Necromunda up after this expansion drops I will literally end myself ||or cry in a corner for a couple hours||
tough haven
You probably want to read some imperial armor books if you want anything detaile...
I just didn’t know if there were standard or generally proscribed tactics in the primer or that would be ordered by command
dusk patrol
Fuck, marry, kill: Master Edition
tough haven
I’m just trying to figure it out for world building
queen laurel
literally
So does this canonically mean that This patriarch is the most unique out of every single one available in warhammer stories
storm jungle
I dont think thats the patriarch is it?
rocky gale
Whatever he is I like his big hand
dusk patrol
queen laurel
I dont think thats the patriarch is it?
Yeah it's just like some super creature
After checking back
But it's probably pretty close to the patriarch
tough haven
Hey if the hive fleet itself ain’t interested in them, maybe he did something ri...
I wonder if there’s any way to oh I don’t know, take samples from genestealers or even live samples to research so you don’t have to risk one getting out
dusk patrol
Well we know it hasn’t visited Necromunda
But it probably receives the signals and goes “fuck that”
tough haven
It’s the strange family member at gatherings you all collectively ignore
tough haven
I wonder if there’s any way to oh I don’t know, take samples from genestealers o...
Also I was referencing the story in the link
dusk patrol
It’s that uncle they don’t let be alone with the kids
storm jungle
and the Inquisitor in charge of it was a straight up sociopath
tough haven
But it probably receives the signals and goes “fuck that”
You know you’re fucked when the hive mind blocks you
queen laurel
But it probably receives the signals and goes “fuck that”
With how much of a shithole necromunda is it would probably require the help of the swarm lord to truly destroy
tough haven
that was a very niche case
Well every time I’ve seen a biologis try to study genestealers live, to the surprise of no one, it gets out
storm jungle
Well yeah its a genestealer lol
its claws can cut terminator plate
this is like expecting a cat to stay still
tough haven
Yeah so maybe, don’t?
dusk patrol
With how much of a shithole necromunda is it would probably require the help of ...
Necromunda is also really close to Terra and a pretty prized world so
storm jungle
Yeah so maybe, don’t?
Scientists should not do science is bad advice
also every techpriest has their own agenda, wants, and studies. ıts not really possible.
tough haven
Scientists should not do science is bad advice
No I mean, don’t expect it to not get out
storm jungle
No I mean, don’t expect it to not get out
techpriests are too overconfident and dumb and even when theres security measure it is a genestealer
tough haven
Like have 14 contingencies for when it breaks out
queen laurel
Scientists should not do science is bad advice
Okay so uh you brought back dinosaurs that can be fine
What the hell did you mean you made a hybrid using t-rex giga and raptor dna and other types of shit
arctic talon
The new mini isn’t even the actual biologis lol
storm jungle
they arent too well-versed in what they do
tough haven
The new mini isn’t even the actual biologis lol
Yeah
queen laurel
Which makes him even stranger
Honestly it reminds me of you which is funny
dusk patrol
Tfw dad leaves so you generate a meat puppet copy of him
queen laurel
That is not a healthy way of dealing with trauma
arctic talon
Honestly it reminds me of you which is funny
dusk patrol
And then put his cloak and some bionics onto it so it looks just like him
tough haven
When studying ‘nids, there are two basic rules, don’t fucking put the material in or with anything you aren’t going to kill/incinerate, and don’t be a fucking resident evil scientist
storm jungle
okay but again
not everyone knows this
techpriests included
theres a literal forgeworld who found a good way to deal with nid planetary invasion, and once they beat them they lost the fucking data
LOL
queen laurel
When studying ‘nids, there are two basic rules, don’t fucking put the material i...
Messing with biological monstrosities as like a common thing to do as you really do want to understand them
Look at xenomorphs
Zerg
Of course you would be very interested in learning how these things work
storm jungle
also this yeah
tough haven
“Day 1-We’ve chained this silverback gorilla up and attached ak-47s to its arms and have been poking it with a stick for 10 hours, I hope it doesn’t get out”
“Day 14- “It got out”
storm jungle
Nids can evolve on the spot under captivity
we got an entire forgeworld book showing this
tough haven
Of course you would be very interested in learning how these things work
I’m not against research, I’m all about knowing your enemy
dusk patrol
When studying ‘nids, there are two basic rules, don’t fucking put the material i...
They have found useful stuff
median star
When studying ‘nids, there are two basic rules, don’t fucking put the material i...
Obv the tech priest (smartest person planetside basically) would know how to deal with some barly sapient zeno (they dont)
tough haven
You just gotta CYA
storm jungle
Obv the tech priest (smartest person planetside basically) would know how to dea...
Smart people also always got a plan unti they get punched in the face.
dusk patrol
Like the Deathwatch has a coating they can use in their armor to blend in with the Nids of a specific hive fleet
tough haven
“Day 1-We’ve chained this silverback gorilla up and attached ak-47s to its arms ...
Tech priests be like this
storm jungle
again
arctic talon
The magos was trying to “cure” genestealers lol
queen laurel
I’m not against research, I’m all about knowing your enemy
Yeah and studying them is the best way to know about their weakness
queen laurel
Yeah an incompetent super empire studying very dangerous specimens
storm jungle
Yeah an incompetent super empire studying very dangerous specimens
^
stop expecting logic out of these people
queen laurel
stop expecting logic out of these people
Weyland utani and starcraft did this as well
So at this point i just want to see the monsters eat them
tough haven
Well I mean, I don’t, I just expect basic logic from a organization that worships forms of logic
dusk patrol
They’re not all the same dude
queen laurel
Well I mean, I don’t, I just expect basic logic from a organization that worship...
You really think fanatical priests that worship machinery like gods and would even literally strip their clothes to have sex with it should it fix it would have any type of logic?
dusk patrol
The point is the mad scientist angle
storm jungle
Well I mean, I don’t, I just expect basic logic from a organization that worship...
An organisation so segmented and fractured they infight and do dumb things constantly.
storm jungle
The point is the mad scientist angle
Also like even WHEN it isnt a mad scientist, even IRL scientists do really dumb shit too
tough haven
As it turns out, wiring tons of shit directly into your spinal column isn’t good for your sanity or humility lol
arctic talon
They worship the acquisition of knowledge
tough haven
Also the mechanicus doesn’t worship logic
I know, it’s just certain sects and priests value the cold logic of the machine
dusk patrol
We don’t read stories of the tech priests who safely studied a few samples and relayed the data and there wasn’t any issues
Cause that’s boring as fuck
tough haven
As the aspect of the omnissiah they worship
tough haven
Fair
storm jungle
They arent logical people
queen laurel
I know, it’s just certain sects and priests value the cold logic of the machine
Yeah it's the classic not everyone angle
Space marines are all monsters but not all of them are monsters
arctic talon
Humans aren’t logical
queen laurel
It's literally not even worth your time to put your brain into thinking about this
arctic talon
storm jungle
this is like if our world was fictional
dusk patrol
It’s also jsut
storm jungle
"Why dont they just fix the energy crisis"
dusk patrol
A fucking story
queen laurel
Humans aren’t logical
Hey my idea of wiping out the homeless by flamethrowers worked there are no longer homeless people here
storm jungle
queen laurel
So speak for yourself
arctic talon
A fucking story
tough haven
We don’t read stories of the tech priests who safely studied a few samples and r...
Unsung heroes
queen laurel
"Why dont they just fix the energy crisis"
Why don't they just get a father figures i say
I swear some of these people just think we should fix homelessness okay then how would you want to fix the government full of corrupt people
They don't think things through
storm jungle
YEP
tough haven
Like people choose to be homeless
“Ah so if it’s illegal, you’ll provide resources to prevent this right? To avoid just moving them to jail? Right?”
Haha, no
fallen plaza
Get your weapons ready boys, its time to drive out the homeless
tough haven
Now guess who’s prisons are at 118% capacity and rising
They literally go through 2x the amount of work to disparage the homeless than it would take to just fucking try to home them
Next their just gonna make suicide illegal and think that fixes the issue
dusk patrol
Generally speaking it’s not that simple
tough haven
Shit is straight up more imperial every day
viral halo
My state making homelessness illegal
tough haven
Generally speaking it’s not that simple
I understand that
But c’mon, y’all aren’t even trying
soft thunder
That's hot
if they copy and pasted some of the stuff from necromunda hive secundus to darktide's 2nd hive city as a chaos wastes dlc I would lose my mind
tough haven
It’s a complex issue that requires a thought out complex solution
dusk patrol
The “making homelessness illegal” thing is generally there so they can actually break up these massive tent villages in the middle of parks and underpasses
tough haven
But those aren’t sexy, so they just hit it with a hammer and call it quits
dusk patrol
There’s an absurd amount of money spent on this every year
It’s really fucking hard to fix
viral halo
I got jumped by a homeless crackhead in college walking to campus
dusk patrol
Most of these people aren’t people you can just give a home and fix it
viral halo
was pretty wild
tough haven
Oh I’m aware, no one’s saying it’s a simple issue
But this doesn’t necessarily help
It just shifts the issue
dusk patrol
It doesn’t necessarily hurt either
tough haven
I suppose
soft thunder
“Ah so if it’s illegal, you’ll provide resources to prevent this right? To avoid...
literally illegal in US to share food w/ ppl w/o some permit or w/e
dusk patrol
Like theoretically if you can jail some of these guys you can try to get them clean
tough haven
Like theoretically if you can jail some of these guys you can try to get them cl...
The only issue I’ll say with that is
Gimme a sec I gotta type this out
dusk patrol
literally illegal in US to share food w/ ppl w/o some permit or w/e
On a mass scale but food isn’t the issue
Most of these people are addicts or severely mentally ill
soft thunder
ya one of the many small issues in an exceedingly large problem
dusk patrol
And often don’t want help with any strings attached like not being able to shoot up or whatever.
viral halo
Idk about the homeless by yall but the ones in NJ and NYC are literally stage hazards for every one around them
queen laurel
Idk about the homeless by yall but the ones in NJ and NYC are literally stage ha...
The crack lords of the rat city you mean
dusk patrol
Its sad but them being in a shit position shouldn’t give them leeway to act the way they do to others too
tough haven
Most of these people are addicts or severely mentally ill
So I work at a psychiatric hospital as a nurse, and whenever we get people from prison who are on psych meds or rehab they just get locked in a cycle since apparently these prisons can’t be bothered to give their psych meds on a regular basis or their regimens to help get clean, so they just come to us after their all fucked up from their delicately balanced psychoactive drugs get unbalanced
viral halo
The crack lords of the rat city you mean
Every one wants to help until they get called a slur and spit on by whichever one you ended up getting with playing crime roulette in the NYC subway lmfao
tough haven
But I understand that’s a seperate issue related to prison overcrowding, underfunding and understaffing
crystal forum
let's let companies run prisons, nothing could ever go wrong
dusk patrol
There’s always gonna be issues I think people have just gotten sick of parks and public spaces being taken over by these tent cities and no legal recourse
tough haven
But it’s really heartbreaking seeing the same people every time, right after their prison sentence ends, then have them discharge, go back to prison, end up back here
Like 80% of our patients are homeless or in a shelter
dusk patrol
Yeah idk how you go about fixing it without just like
tough haven
So it’s not as if people don’t try to seek mental help for the underlying causes, though many are court committed
dusk patrol
Basically imprisoning a ton of them and figuring it out
tough haven
Yeah idk how you go about fixing it without just like
Yeah it’s all fucked
tough haven
Basically imprisoning a ton of them and figuring it out
They need halfway between prison and inpatient stay
Where they can be under medical and psych supervision
dusk patrol
People bring up how we used to have asylums and stuff but there’s a reason those all got canned
They were kinda fucked
tough haven
Cause they were super fucked up
It needs to be a bit less prison, more hospital
Oh btw
dusk patrol
Turns out it’s hard to house and treat dozens of these people when you don’t have the funding or the staff and it’s insanely hard to justify both
tough haven
There’s no substance abuse recovery inpatient settings near us, so we become the de facto one
But we don’t have the resources for that
viral halo
Kennedy and Reagan got the easiest votes of their lives closing the psychiatric hospitals down and handing the patients bus tickets lol
tough haven
And the places that do turn their nose up and won’t do it
Because they aren’t technically a substance abuse place, but neither are we
dusk patrol
And frankly a lot of these people don’t actually want to get clean and would have to be forced to
Or are just mentally off their rocker
tough haven
Basically imprisoning a ton of them and figuring it out
I think there has to be more almost group home settings but slightly more intensive for the patients who’s acuity isn’t quite long term inpatient commitment (practically an asylum) but aren’t quite stable enough yet for intensive outpatient
tough haven
And frankly a lot of these people don’t actually want to get clean and would hav...
Hence the need for a setting for this specifcally
It’s rough, especially seeing people change so much after coming off it
And then just seeing them back at step one two weeks later
We’re used to dealing with them though, and a lot of them are able to make baby steps each time, so I guess you just try to help what you can
tough haven
Or are just mentally off their rocker
Gotta say, I enjoy hearing the stuff people spout to me, it’s always fun, you gotta find ways to laugh at it or else it’ll make you sad lol
dusk patrol
Yeah it gets wild
tough haven
I’ve got stories galore
It’s also fun seeing what people think will hurt you if they say it
It doesn’t, and even if it did, you leave the part of you that takes things personally at the door, cause these people aren’t giving you a hard time, they’re having a hard time
You’re just the most easily accessible target for them to shunt their frustration onto
tough haven
And frankly a lot of these people don’t actually want to get clean and would hav...
It’s just hard cause even when they want to, your nervous system has now been required to literally require it, which takes a long time to undo
Shit I gotta turn ping on reply off
Shits annoying
queen laurel
Every one wants to help until they get called a slur and spit on by whichever on...
me: helping people because I'm a nice guy
The severely addicted crackhead about to rip me apart:
tough haven
I dont think random laypeople can help directly lol
What I find interesting is most of the crackheads I see at work arent directly and knowingly doing crack, they get it because they decide to get weed from unverified sources because its cheaper or whatever reason, and to the suprise of no one, its laced with shit, and then they get hooked on it
which is why I beat it into people's heads, if you're gonna do cannabis, fine, but fucking get it from a verified dispensary
(weed is legal near where I'm at btw, not actually within my state, but a 15 minute walk from where I work)
dusk patrol
Very strange movie
viral halo
me: helping people because I'm a nice guy
The severely addicted crackhead abou...
Severely addicted crackhead would make a great username
tough haven
Severely addicted crackhead would make a great username
sounds like a tf2 player user
anyways, are there any common work tunes/songs as the bondsman/penal batallions/common imperial citizens are worked to death?
or is it just eerie silence and maybe the sound of hymns over vox casters
crystal forum
anyways, are there any common work tunes/songs as the bondsman/penal batallions/...
the boring answer would be more gothic chants and shit
the cool answer is they sing sailor songs
tough haven
No unique folk songs to a planetary populace?
tough haven
the cool answer is they sing sailor songs
this sounds like something factorum workers would sing as they work to death
crystal forum
you can definitely work it into a setting you're creating
i dont see why they wouldn't have songs
tough haven
It feels like something people would do among the back breaking labor and soul crushing monotony
crystal forum
but because grimdark everybody must be miserable and never have fun
tough haven
this sounds like something factorum workers would sing as they work to death
or forge world bondsman/skitarii
they have war songs and chants, so why not work songs
tough haven
but because grimdark everybody must be miserable and never have fun
just cause people are singing doesnt necessarily mean they're having fun lol
its just a way to cope in a small way
rose thorn
Alright listening to adeptus ridiculous’ skaven episode
I hope it isn’t just old world circle jerking
queen laurel
Alright listening to adeptus ridiculous’ skaven episode
Mags
You know the price of such endeavor
queen laurel
Know that when you watch the video you will be inevitably bored out of your mind and think it is f****** garbage
rose thorn
‘Skipping age of sigmar’
Okay skipping it
I don’t like old world I think it’s boring lmao
2+ tough my beloved
rose thorn
I was thinking my city of sigmar harvests bone shards from a dead god beast, the I realize isopods eat a lot of bones. What can someone use giant isopod for tho
Or should I focus on the isopods
And maybe their exoskeletons are used for armor and weapons
queen laurel
I was thinking my city of sigmar harvests bone shards from a dead god beast, the...
specialized armor or arrows
I mean they do eat dead God beast bones
So I'm pretty sure the magical properties of said bone is gonna affect the wildlife into some kind of a mutation
Like like use their exoskeleton to a specialize healing soup or something
or keep them in a farm where you feed them the bones for harvest
rose thorn
I mean they do eat dead God beast bones
Yeah the isopods
Maybe the city just can’t harvest the bones
They tried but it’s too strong
But these special giant isopods can
queen laurel
But these special giant isopods can
you can also turn the isopods into a delicacy
Yes isopods are like eaten
winter vessel
Somebody say Isopod?
rose thorn
Somebody say Isopod?
I have an isopod plush
queen laurel
Yeah the isopods
are they land or sea isopods
rose thorn
Land
queen laurel
Land
oh neat I guess you can have like specialized group of like tamers who uses the Isopod they either farm them for the materials or meat or you know use their ability to break down the bones
rose thorn
Tbh sea isopods would be cool, but idk how my city would be under water
queen laurel
Tbh sea isopods would be cool, but idk how my city would be under water
to be fair it can also work as a like a port town
You can send groups of people to bring them to shore or just like put a nearby farm on the waters
rose thorn
Does AOS have scuba diving? Because the kharcaradons
queen laurel
Does AOS have scuba diving? Because the kharcaradons
Just use like magic or dwarf tech
rose thorn
A city built in the skeleton of a dead god beast. The bones are unbreakable except to a single species of giant isopods that feast on it. So the city cultivated and harvest these isopods using the meat for food and the exoskeletons to create armor and weapons.
queen laurel
A city built in the skeleton of a dead god beast. The bones are unbreakable exce...
works
and a good idea
true elbow
im curious, what is the ogryn childhood/family dynamic like?
outer wave
im curious, what is the ogryn childhood/family dynamic like?
I dont recall much is covered on this subject matter, but Enslaved Ogryns from Necromunda are known to having a very close bond with one another, so Id imagine its similar with family dynamics, though with a bit more of a "Father is always right and you must listen to him" angle.
dusk patrol
im curious, what is the ogryn childhood/family dynamic like?
We mostly don’t know
outer wave
Might is right is still a thing especially with feral ogryns but again, should be pretty closely knit
And yeah sadly we really dont know
dusk patrol
We know normal adult humans resemble Ogryn children
Or at least are close enough that Ogryns feel protective of them
They’re still human so it’s probably just a more primitive family experience
outer wave
Yeah fiercely protective of who they consider family and/or brothers-in-arms
true elbow
oh wow , that makes a bit of sense too, very interesting
crystal forum
We know normal adult humans resemble Ogryn children
are you telling me ogryn babies come out teenager sized
true elbow
i was curious what the ogryn education might be like, an ogryn walking to school in a cave somewhere is a funny thought
dusk patrol
are you telling me ogryn babies come out teenager sized
Maybe, not clear
Just that their kids are around normal human sized
Like I said we don’t know much
crystal forum
warhammer 40k challenge fleshing out any species that isn't pure human (impossible)
outer wave
i was curious what the ogryn education might be like, an ogryn walking to school...
From what I understand (Dilara knows more about this than me tbh), Ogryns are basically kept stupid (or well, more simple than they should be) and are taught the bare minimum if at all. Its why many have the impression of Ogryns as dumb or stupid when in reality they can retain knowledge as well as humans, if at a slower pace.
true elbow
Possibly graduate rock college at an early age and carry on
arctic talon
warhammer 40k challenge fleshing out any species that isn't pure human (impossib...
Eldar and Orks are pretty fleshed out
crystal forum
degree in rockology
true elbow
lol
dusk patrol
From what I understand (Dilara knows more about this than me tbh), Ogryns are ba...
I’ve never seen any evidence for this
crystal forum
me neither
true elbow
From what I understand (Dilara knows more about this than me tbh), Ogryns are ba...
i could see that, maybe they were enslaved or held down out of fear from humans
crystal forum
they're just dumb comedic relief in the books i've read
outer wave
I’ve never seen any evidence for this
Apparently comes from a book concerning a female ogryn psyker, who talks perfectly fine and is apparently quite smart.
dusk patrol
They’re always clearly not mentally that developed, Bon’eads are a clear attempt to make them more competent
dusk patrol
Apparently comes from a book concerning a female ogryn psyker, who talks perfect...
Yes one rare example which is the exception and is a huge oddity
queen laurel
Apparently comes from a book concerning a female ogryn psyker, who talks perfect...
the ghaz book yes
celest dome
Bonehead don't make them smarter
dusk patrol
There’s no reason the imperium would want them dumb
crystal forum
you will always find an exemption to the rule when an author feels like adding their own spin
outer wave
Yes one rare example which is the exception and is a huge oddity
But that knowledge also comes from being taught by an Inquisitor, which is something that no other insitutition would have the rights to
dusk patrol
They have plenty of smart soldiers they control
celest dome
There’s no reason the imperium would want them dumb
Oh there are plenty.
It's why most human in 40k are dumb too
queen laurel
There’s no reason the imperium would want them dumb
Not really dumb per say just oblivious
And the tiny bits stupid
outer wave
^
queen laurel
Like they keep them dumb enough to not realize their slaves
But smart enough to follow orders
outer wave
You wouldnt want Grey Ogryns to suddenly go "Wait, this Imperium stuff is kinda cringe" and rebel on you
dusk patrol
But that knowledge also comes from being taught by an Inquisitor, which is somet...
She’s also a huge exception to the rule in that she’s a damn psyker
outer wave
She’s also a huge exception to the rule in that she’s a damn psyker
I dont know if psykers automatically mean they're smart, but yes thats true
dusk patrol
Ogryns being too stupid to follow complex orders is a problem
queen laurel
It's the brainwashing system of the imperium with propaganda stuff
crystal forum
Like they keep them dumb enough to not realize their slaves
why would ogryns be kept dumber than normal human peons though
shell mason
sup nerds
queen laurel
why would ogryns be kept dumber than normal human peons though
Because well normal humans can realize stuff
dusk patrol
I’ve never seen anyone actually post proof they can be smarter
The psyker Ogryn is a huge exception
queen laurel
Independent thinking in all that
true elbow
Does anyone have a a link to some decent websites for lore etc? wondering where a good place to start is for books etc
crystal forum
check pins
dusk patrol
There’s clear attempts by the Imperium to make them more capable
queen laurel
Does anyone have a a link to some decent websites for lore etc? wondering where ...
LEXICANUM
celest dome
why would ogryns be kept dumber than normal human peons though
Less valued due to being Abhuman
crystal forum
wdym ogryns are super valuable
shell mason
check pins
are you high?
queen laurel
wdym ogryns are super valuable
Yes but like they are another race
Therefore they are only tools
And you will only outfit a tool and repair it enough to do its job
outer wave
^
dusk patrol
And the Imperium wants to keep it that way
Except the imperium is fine with smart shock troopers
queen laurel
I just sounded mega racist