#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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the talbetop game of it is prob the most showcase they got in media too

spark zenith
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Damn, I thought corpse guilds were a thing in all hive cities

storm jungle
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Nah just some

spark zenith
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My bad b

storm jungle
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Necromunda has an actual guild on it

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and ye np, its just meme awareness

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most other hives just eat literal food-slop

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or like gruel

spark zenith
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I shall now flog myself raw for getting a piece of lore wrong

storm jungle
outer wave
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We aren't Dwarfs

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You don't need to take the Slayer's Oath

spark zenith
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Speak for yourself

arctic talon
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What setting started the whole elves are taller then humans thing

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Genuine question

outer wave
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Probably LoTR?

arctic talon
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Bcs they like aren’t in Tolkien

outer wave
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Ah yeah true

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Warcraft?

spark zenith
arctic talon
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Wait is it fucking warhammer

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It can’t be

outer wave
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Fuck we started the trope....

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Bcs in DnD elves are shorter then humans lol

arctic talon
queen laurel
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Because that's be honest it's a lot more mainstream

spark zenith
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I like the whole concept of elves being taller then humans because I love the concept of this art, Eldar and IG teaming up and the Eldar having to put up with silly mon keigh antics

arctic talon
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Lol

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I don’t mind the trope at all

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I was just wondering what the origin point is

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Since they’re the same height as people in LoTR unless you count outliers

outer wave
arctic talon
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I mean there are settings

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like this

young pecan
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All my homies hate inquisitors

outer wave
arctic talon
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we have 2 warhammer settings where elves and humans mingle pretty regularly

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well "regularly"

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but both in WHFB and AoS

outer wave
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Yeah but that's a tentative alliance

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I meant more like

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They don't mind each other, for the most part

arctic talon
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AoS City elves literally crying rn

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smh

outer wave
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Shhh

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They don't exist in my brain

spark zenith
# young pecan The caption so sad

Maybe if it’s the Ordo Xenos maybe they’d be like, “nah fuck that imperium Sanctus shit, this Imperium nihilus we go hard in this bitch”

arctic talon
arctic talon
spark zenith
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It looks like bewilderment

outer wave
spark zenith
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“What are these mon keigh doing bruh I just want to eat berries and cheese” - the fire dragon (probably)

queen laurel
outer wave
queen laurel
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You have basically burned it off by eating fire belly food

outer wave
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I GOT TASTE

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Yeah most of my buds got ripped away from me after that one Butcher encounter BUT I STILL GOT TASTE

young pecan
arctic talon
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tbh I do like how Craftworld Eldar being "restrained" is drinking so much/taking so many recreational drugs it would kill a human

queen laurel
young pecan
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I wonder if a human has ever survived petting a tyranid

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Because I know for sure at least one has tried

winter vessel
echo vault
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when the chaos helmet has the animal horn/skull aesthetic: very nice

storm jungle
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Love how all these dudes are sorcerors too lmao

misty vector
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is that ahriman with a gun lol

plush mason
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thats his old mini i think

dusk patrol
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Nothing about being a mage says you can’t whip out your glock to clean up your block occasionally

storm jungle
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Hes gonna shoot up the library 💀

dusk patrol
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He’s gonna make it quiet in the library, but first it’s gotta get loud

storm jungle
plush mason
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lmao

queen laurel
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Don't you just love it when you open up this chat and you see an incredibly out of pocket joke

plush mason
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tbf thats like 80% of the servers im in so im very use to it lol

queen laurel
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I know i'm so sarcastic most of the time you can't tell

plush mason
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i figured lol, i just never notice the out of pocket stuff anymore, because so many of my friends live out of pocket

queen laurel
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I have seen a good chunk of the internet

plush mason
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same

queen laurel
# plush mason same

All right i'm bored as f*** i want to do something fun

Hey flightless bird thingy that swims on the water

You will become a generic lord in aos

You will be given a mount of your choosing and become a leader of a army of your choosing

How would you make yourself totally cool and awesome

plush mason
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ducks can fly btw

queen laurel
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Back to the question

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How would you make yourself a totally unique aos army leader

plush mason
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what kind of mounts do the nighthaught get?

queen laurel
queen laurel
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You can also like make your own ride out of bones or some shit

rose thorn
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It’s all horses

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And the black coach

queen laurel
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You can do that right

crystal forum
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can i reanimate a girlfriend

rose thorn
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Yeha but the soul blight have that

queen laurel
plush mason
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ah ok i would have a black coach only instead of horses its pulled by the enslaved souls of my first foes

rose thorn
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Fun fact

crystal forum
queen laurel
plush mason
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i would honestly look kinda generic i think, just a simple black funeral shroud but one that fully covers most of my body

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think Nazgul but with the ghost fire coming out of the hood

storm jungle
plush mason
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and my black coach has just a portal to the realm of death on it lol, so im just a literal reaper out there harvesting souls for my lord Nagash

queen laurel
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Now

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Pick a faction you want to have a rival warlord with

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Like this guy is entire point is just annoying the s*** out of you

plush mason
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oh thats easy, the storm cast

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the leader is the soul survivor of the original band that now pulls my black coach

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as such he seeks to destroy it and free them

queen laurel
outer wave
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What's the deal with the black coach anyway? Does any Vampire Count ride in one?

plush mason
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i think in fantasy yes there is an elder vampire lord in it

storm jungle
plush mason
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idk whats in the nighthaught ones

storm jungle
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HATE.

outer wave
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He's so cute....

plush mason
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Nosferatu looking ass

outer wave
arctic talon
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Ugly ass old mini lol

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Love it

rocky gale
storm jungle
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NOOOO

outer wave
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Okay so they do ride in these things

plush mason
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they are in the coffin in the back yes

outer wave
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I wonder why there's no mount for heroes and lords in TWW

plush mason
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huh?

celest dome
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There are no ?

outer wave
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I've never seen em

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I also haven't played much of Vampire Counts

fallen plaza
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I could go for a, barbecue bacon burger.

celest dome
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Oh you mean "Black Coach" as mount for VCount character ?

storm jungle
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a large order of undead fries...

storm jungle
plush mason
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^

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the coach in melee is um yeah, its literally just running around like a less useful chariot

outer wave
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Easy, perfect

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Immersive as well

celest dome
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I think it's less due to animation and more due to Black Coach not being a mount option for characters in the TT

outer wave
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I see

plush mason
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did Manfred or Vlad ever ride in a black coach?

outer wave
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I guess it'd be kinda weird to have the character in the back waving his arms around doing nothing

plush mason
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the coffin is closed

queen laurel
plush mason
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yeah

queen laurel
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I think Vlad

plush mason
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is a foot lord

queen laurel
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Yeah but i think he had his own personal ride

plush mason
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because he is OP as is

queen laurel
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Because he is all that you know lord stuff

plush mason
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unironically giving Vald a mount would actually nerf him in game

celest dome
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Yup Vlad had no mounts

queen laurel
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The carried around to do his lord business thing

celest dome
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Mannfred could have an Abissal terror, a Hellsteed and a Night mare

queen laurel
celest dome
queen laurel
plush mason
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i love the fact that a literal side character in the end times is one of the most OP LL in the vampire counts roster

celest dome
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Not that I remember

queen laurel
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I know ghorst

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After all he carries around that cart of his

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So you're telling me one of the greatest vampire lords does not have a personal ride

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Just some generic carriage that carries him around

celest dome
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Yes

queen laurel
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Huh neat

plush mason
outer wave
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He doesn't need a cooler ride; he's already riding in style

celest dome
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Oh you mean lorewise ?
I think he rode a Hellsteed, but never fought much on it from memory

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The non flying one

plush mason
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didnt he die in a very stupid way canonically?

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just ran head first into a wall of pikes

outer wave
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Wouldn't be surprised tbh

celest dome
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Ghorst ? Don't think we know how he died

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Vlad died once by jumping from the walls into spikes

plush mason
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like Vlad lead a massive invasion of the empire and almost took it over only to die on a pike hedge at the gates of Altdorf iirc

queen laurel
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Hellsteeds are those resurrected horses that have magic shoved into them right

celest dome
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Both undead

queen laurel
outer wave
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What's the difference aside from the species?

queen laurel
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At least he had something to help him move around

outer wave
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I'd imagine the Pegasus is better?

celest dome
plush mason
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^

outer wave
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Gotcha

queen laurel
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Yes they are rare and quite hard to bring back but hey it would be quite a flex

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To have one

plush mason
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flying magic user heroes/lords can be right bitches to death with in TWWH

celest dome
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Dead Dragon aare harder to control than Dead horse/pegasus

outer wave
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Man just gimme a big undead mole

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I'll tunnel around like a rat under their cities

plush mason
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skaven necromancers

queen laurel
plush mason
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talk about a missed opportunity

outer wave
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The dragon is too big and it'll get hit

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But a Pegasus? Bro that's good Tuk Tuk material right there

celest dome
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Afaik there was a Skaven Necromancer

queen laurel
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The dragon taking the hit is a lot better than you getting sniped from a sniper

outer wave
queen laurel
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I'm built different

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I am an iron jaw

arctic talon
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Lol

plush mason
arctic talon
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If anything with cities of sigmar I want to see more elves with guns lol

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Mostly because A. funny

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and B. I like the designs of AoS guns

plush mason
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i had 4 units in Grimgor's army and i was literally just mowing down most of the other armies

outer wave
queen laurel
arctic talon
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Lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Me when some dwarf has a fucking laser gun powered with gold

outer wave
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Or I guess another head now with the kid in the way

arctic talon
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Also khadron being hyper mobile is fun

plush mason
arctic talon
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Completely shatters the expectation of dwarfs being a slow immobile army

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You’re going to get the fly by shooting

queen laurel
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Take that you

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Tasteless runt

outer wave
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Damn my goblin that I trained using AI images for 2 days for assassination jobs is dead....

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😔

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Rest in piece Agent Gob Smacka....

crystal forum
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@arctic talon im sorry m'lord i couldn't figure out how to do the grip today

arctic talon
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It looks good

crystal forum
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god fucking damn organic shapes make me want to pull my hair out

crystal forum
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it's not dope it's shit

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i cant do faces it's killing me

young pecan
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Self criticism is healthy but do not obsess on it

storm jungle
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^

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every artist also hates what they create, dont worry about it lol

crystal forum
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ive just been trying to learn how to do faces for so long

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and i never seem to be getting better at it

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like wtf is this shit

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i have an idea

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alright this is as good as i can get it tonight

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frustrating but i'll get it one day

plush mason
storm jungle
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YEP

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and everyone else loves it

plush mason
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yup

storm jungle
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story of my life and every other artist lol

plush mason
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yup

green loom
shell mason
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BAYLE

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VILE BAYLE

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ALL TERROR INCARNATE

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THERE IS LIFE IN ME YET

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I WILL SOON FEAST UPON YOUR HEART

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MARK MY WORDS

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YOU TOO WILL KNOW FEAR

young pecan
crystal forum
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i am also curious

shell mason
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you do art?

crystal forum
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but i am willing to bet that she writes

shell mason
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Drawings are king man

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thats the art i follow

crystal forum
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i draw but in three dimensions

nocturne crest
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So odd question, but can the space marine's Stalker vehicle use it's cannons in a direct fire role against infantry or other targets?

green loom
young pecan
young pecan
shell mason
nocturne crest
crystal forum
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solidworks

young pecan
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I KNEW IT

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I was about to say

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Only ever tried one of those softwares but I took a class that I barely remember in my freshman year of high school

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The texture looked like it

crystal forum
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my work gives me a premium license and i'm abusing it hard

nocturne crest
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Ah

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I was about to ask how much you spend on it.

shell mason
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ew

crystal forum
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from what i hear it's never worth the cost unless you're a business

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you can use freecad instead

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my boss uses it

young pecan
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It's always weird to me how they charge so mf much for a software that's fully made

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Like they don't think that they would get more sales if it wasn't insanely expensive

crystal forum
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they pretty much own the market when it comes to engineering

nocturne crest
young pecan
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I mean most software really to my knowledge, but that's a little sad

crystal forum
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solidworks pretty much installs spyware on your computer just to open it

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cant even open it offline because it has to verify the license

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it's like they spend half their budget on anti piracy

tough haven
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Can’t stop freedom of information forever

outer wave
lime basalt
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Howdy. So, power wise, could 4 rejects take on one of the frogs from boltgun or are those strictly SM level threats?

plush mason
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we kill daemonhosts and beasts of nurgle

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both are technically SM level threats

outer wave
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Yeh its possible

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But its mostly because Darktide is a game at the end of the day so

dusk patrol
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Yeah it’s one of those things where like

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Being swallowed by a beast of nurgle is death 1000% for any of the convicts

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But it’s a game

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Daemonhosts are a little less so, they can vary a lot in power and ability depending on how they’re bound and all that

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And what daemons inside

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The daemonhosts we see in Eisenhorn are very high level ones typically, Churubael ain’t a small fry

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Also they’re bound very expertly

outer wave
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What could we say about the daemonhosts here then?

thorn zenith
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Chumps probably

arctic talon
thorn zenith
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And gettin oofed by a coked up zealot with a thunder hammer

arctic talon
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Tbf a weak daemon host

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Is still terrifying

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The ones ingame aren’t nearly as strong as they should

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But that would be lame gameplay wise if they were

lime basalt
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I wouldn't mind fighting a frog.

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Maybe a small one.

crystal forum
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could we defeat a greater demon

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angron, even

lime basalt
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Also, in a similar vein, what are these things and can we fight them?

arctic talon
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Plague toad, rot fly, last one is a chaos spawn

lime basalt
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Really? Man, chaos spawns can really look like anything, huh.

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I guess that's the point.

arctic talon
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Chaos spawn designs get crazy

lone quest
shell mason
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yo nerds

crystal forum
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do chaos cats exist

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i feel like they would exist

outer wave
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I dont see why they couldnt

celest dome
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Do those count ?

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Mind stealer Sphiranx

crystal forum
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my cat lying next to me in bed

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plotting tzeenchian schemes

tough haven
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So from tabletop, is there a lore reason standing near where someone trying to teleport in/fly in/sneak in, etc, prevents them from doing so?

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Like why can’t deep strike units just telefrag

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I was just curious if there was an actual reason or just balance

arctic talon
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also teleportation in 40k tends to be inconsistent

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you just get the "general" area

tough haven
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That seems even more reason how you couldn’t really protect from deep strike

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Like units like technoarcheologists make sense, they have gear to scramble readings and foil infiltrators

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But how does 1-2 skitarii or guardsman standing near where some scourges want to land really stop them

arctic talon
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oh why you can stop against deep strike

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like from flying stuff

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lore wise you don't lol

tough haven
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Or from teleporting

arctic talon
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Teleporting in is just a thing where its too risky

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for the people teleporting in since they might kill themselves

tough haven
tough haven
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Or you’re grey knights/necrons where the tech/technique is refined enough where the concern is much less

storm jungle
tough haven
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Such as terminators?

storm jungle
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Pretty much

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its why its mostly rarely used

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Necrons for example got perfect teleportation tech but they dont utilize the warp, they use pocket dimensions

young pecan
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Is teleportation tech spammable?

storm jungle
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Uhhh unless you wanna end up overloading the teleporter or sending your guys into walls i guess so

young pecan
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I think a last stand where a character keeps using it despite the risk because they'll already get owned would be sick

arctic talon
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Since if they die

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oh well reanimation protocol time

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Its more of a concern to Humans, Eldar, LoV, ect.

storm jungle
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Yeah like in Gate of Bones the custodians mention the teleporter tech they got on their ship is more valuable than the actual vessel itself

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and even then its prone to errors lol

young pecan
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Give Cawl a month and three screws and he will make it perfect

arctic talon
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Ironically the safest warp based teleportation tech in 40k

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is Ork stuff

storm jungle
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💀

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me teleporting goblins into your torso

young pecan
arctic talon
tough haven
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Not funny for the victim bc he can’t fight

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But funny for the rest of the boys

young pecan
tough haven
tough haven
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In lore

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It’s a weapon

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The shokk attack gun

arctic talon
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Big Meks

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Use it a lot

tough haven
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It teleports grots into your body/vehicle

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And they’re horrified by the warp so their extra feral

arctic talon
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Also the rare Mek Boss

fallen plaza
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Yummy yummy gobbos in my tummy

tough haven
storm jungle
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It was just a sub-realm and it was pretty stupid.

tough haven
storm jungle
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"OH NO HOW CAN WE PREDICT ORK ATTACKS"

Mfer you literally got the same tech but better 💀

tough haven
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But it was kinda entertaining briefly

tough haven
storm jungle
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alas lmao

tough haven
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Get plot armored

storm jungle
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me when Ufthak survives getting shot by a dark matter gun because hes wearing thick armor

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💀

arctic talon
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Me when mike brooks

storm jungle
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LOL

tough haven
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It’s at least funny with orks because you kinda expect it

arctic talon
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Ufthak’s bullshit is a bit much for me

tough haven
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And you know it won’t be serious

arctic talon
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In that book

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Lol

tough haven
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I liked brutal kunnin though

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Idk how you write fights in 40K while keeping bullshit to a minimum though

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It’s all bullshit

young pecan
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Because there's almost no objective power

fallen plaza
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Thats why i often listen to audiobooks with 40k stuff

tough haven
# arctic talon In that book

Overall my opinion of the book would be like 70/100 because I’m starved for Ork and xenos content and I’ll take anything

arctic talon
tough haven
arctic talon
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Mike Brooks still proves he’s best at writing orks

fallen plaza
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I remember trying to read the infinite and the divine and basically felt dizzy everytime the exodites fight

arctic talon
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Please stop giving him non ork books

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For the love of fucking god

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I hate his non ork books

tough haven
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Same

arctic talon
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Idk

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I think it’s doable

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Without making one side look like an idiot

tough haven
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But the loser will have to fuck up

young pecan
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If a writer liked a human enough they could say the guy beats a great unclean one blocking his path with a sword because he "dodged really good and breathed with his mouth instead of his nose"

tough haven
arctic talon
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Either way idc

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Ig

fallen plaza
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Im tempted to read flight of eisenstein but ive heard it sucks

arctic talon
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The fact Mike Brooks is writing the Leilith book is

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Idk

tough haven
arctic talon
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I have just a few concerns

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“Few”

tough haven
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What other 40K books has he written

young pecan
arctic talon
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Lion Son of the Forrest

fallen plaza
tough haven
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All the 40K writers blend together except for their major bits

arctic talon
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The alpharius book

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The Huron book(this one is really shit)

storm jungle
arctic talon
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Harrowmaster

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Harrowmaster is fine

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But the main alpha legion dude sort of

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Feels like someone’s OC do not steal

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Idk I fucking hated the Lion book ngl

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I really wanted to see Lion interact with 40K era dark angels

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Which we don’t get

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And I wanted to see him change and grow as a person

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Which he somehow just stops being an asshole ig

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And we skip over any sort of character development so sure I guess

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Fine whatever

fallen plaza
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I kinda tuned out of the main lore after lion woke up

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Especially during that siege of the rock thing

arctic talon
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Idk Lion hasn’t done shit tbh

fallen plaza
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That was a such a nothing burger of a lore

arctic talon
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The new crusade lore books are neat

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Did you know the tyranids have a giant flesh planet eating stuff now

fallen plaza
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Im sure it will be brought up again in another book

tough haven
tough haven
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I thought the bs was within ork tolerances in brutal kunnin though

arctic talon
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Crusade pariah nexus

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is just a follow up

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of existing Pariah Nexus stuff

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oh also Vashtor shows up at the end and inverts a pylon

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Good job Silent King and Mechanicus

fallen plaza
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I fucking hate vashtorr

arctic talon
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why

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I think he's fine personally

tough haven
storm jungle
arctic talon
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Like I'm interested to hear why you hate him

storm jungle
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which is a lot more believable

tough haven
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I like pariah nexus, never seen it though

arctic talon
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the show is fine

tough haven
fallen plaza
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From what little ive heard i always felt him as another boring villain

storm jungle
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I mean

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thats literally every warhammer villain then lol

fallen plaza
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I think when i first heard his loss at the siege i called him new abaddon

storm jungle
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?

arctic talon
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he didn't lose though

storm jungle
arctic talon
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💀

tough haven
fallen plaza
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“Erm, it was actually according to plan”

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🤓

tough haven
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I’ve read some of the PN books

arctic talon
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oh it absolutely wasn't lol

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he like

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absolutely got fucked in the ass

tough haven
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And now tabletop is focused on it

arctic talon
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He barely crawled away lol

storm jungle
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Okay so other thing "what little ive heard"

Do not get your lore about characters from other sources, people also meme on Abaddon constantly too and like literally everything people think mainstream about him is wrong lol

arctic talon
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after he got fucked in the ass by The Dark Angels + Belakor

arctic talon
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Belakor bashing his skull in

tough haven
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Abbadon does fuck up regularly though

arctic talon
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is hilarious

storm jungle
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its mostly his underlings who are quite literally brain damaged

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💀

arctic talon
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oh wow reinforcments, wait I didn't bring these daemons with me, Vasthor proceeds to get his fucking skull caved in

arctic talon
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But I think Vashtor gets his ass beat enough when he wins I don't mind

storm jungle
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Yeah that siege doesnt matter

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because he literally won the Arks of Omen campaign lol

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also made caliban a daemon world

arctic talon
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He rebuilt caliban and made it a daemon world

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and now it flies around

storm jungle
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he really just used chaotic flex tape and made us accept it

arctic talon
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tbh

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its a daemon world, it stopped following the laws of physics when it was created lol

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Oh also Vashtorr is a Chaos God that doesn't try to dick you over with deals lol

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bro gives you a fucking contract to sign

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you get to read it

storm jungle
#

One of his best aspects tbh

arctic talon
#

Just look for loop holes and fine print though

storm jungle
#

hes literally just "I really dont care, are you in or not"

arctic talon
#

Literally a DnD Devil

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

gives you a fucking 12 page long document

storm jungle
#

best part is if you point out the loopholes

tough haven
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Anyone play shootas blood and teef? I thought it was pretty good, and silly, it’s unbelievable but it’s also a game, disappointed in how simple it is and how little melee combat there is, but it’s orks and the soundtrack slaps so I love it, captures the vibe

storm jungle
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he'd probably go "yeah thats fair"

storm jungle
#

i appreciate what it is but its kinda forgotten

tough haven
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My favorite part is the music and the story was kinda fun

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No replay value though

arctic talon
#

lore accurate knight name

tough haven
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“You wot?”

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I jam to this all the time

arctic talon
#

I do like that vashtor tends to be overconfident since he's a reddit mod someone who hasn't been outside their house in 40,000 years

tough haven
#

And listen to the ost when I play orks to get in the mood

outer wave
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Wouldnt they typically go "Ew" and step on them

arctic talon
#

and other crap ig

rocky gale
arctic talon
#

The Knight prolly thinks the Ork is "worthy" of hearing their title

outer wave
outer wave
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Okay valid BUT

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In any other situation thats not a jokey 40k game

storm jungle
#

well mostly

queen laurel
#

And even destroyed a gene stealer cult

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As a side trip

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And also brought down a bane blade

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He is basically malum caedo

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For orks

arctic talon
#

40K video game protagonist

queen laurel
#

Like come on man

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That ending fight was

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A bit questionable

arctic talon
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Nah

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I’d win

queen laurel
thorn zenith
queen laurel
thorn zenith
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[old boy proceeds to tank several volcano cannon shots and judo tosses the thing]

thorn zenith
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bit funny too how everyone was like "ah shit we're dead" in that fight, then comes kiava gamma and they treat the chaos marine there almost like a mere annoyance

tough haven
tough haven
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Fights are either instant win, or complete fun killer

storm jungle
#

to be fair rogue traders in lore have killed way worse than space marines

tough haven
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Rarely did I feel the proper amount of struggle or threat

green loom
#

Do you think we'll get Ambulls as a monstrosity

tough haven
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It was either I turned my brain off until the fight ended, or I found the cheesiest strat to beat the otherwise unwinnable fight

thorn zenith
#

i meant canonically too, by the time chapter 3 rolls around the rogue trader and his retinue have the biggest balls in the expanse and nothing phases them anymore

hallow plover
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the fights at the end of act 3 were the hardest for me

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carried by Cassia tho

tough haven
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I’ll replay on higher difficulty with no heals in between fights and see how it feels though

tough haven
hallow plover
#

I hope so

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she was broken

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untouchable, damage scales exponentially

#

I'm just wainting for the DLC to drop for my Heretic playthrough

tough haven
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I just wanna be challenged XCOM style, where for the majority of the game you struggle, you can still win, but battles are hard won

tough haven
thorn zenith
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i had to rely on Yrliet and Argenta hiding behind the covers in the back after i spent other guys nuking those things behind us

hallow plover
#

many people were executed

thorn zenith
#

i went moderate iconoclast on my canon play

tough haven
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I might go either full dogma, or just dogma/icono

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To see the normal ending

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I’ll probably go moderate icono

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Thinking a commissar build with pistols might be fun

thorn zenith
#

but my god it infuriates me that some icono choices can be damn smart but some are downright stupid

hallow plover
#

At least they've nerfed the extra turns

tough haven
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I just won’t use cassia

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It’s so hard to be mean to her but she is a dangerous person to have walking around

hallow plover
#

I might have to because you lose many characters in a heretical playthrough

tough haven
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But my icono treated her and idira the same, if you treated them like monsters, they become monsters

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Didn’t take idira around with me though

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Fuck that, my psyker rt caused enough problems

thorn zenith
#

i protecc cassia too much and she paid the price in the ending

tough haven
#

Like kept her isolated?

thorn zenith
#

ye

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didnt let her take charge

tough haven
#

Maybe I should actually remove members of my retinue next run

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I just kept everyone in icono

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Except argenta and Marahazi

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Argenta I got tired of hearing from

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“You can’t do that 🤓” shut up

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Killed mar instantly

thorn zenith
#

i pulled mar onto my side then instantly inquisitioned him

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because dude has to face consequences for fucking with my realm

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i did keep everyone else, incidentally only Idira, Abelard, Argenta, and Pasqal got their good endings

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and the ship vendor guy

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i had a second "all good endings" run going but i didnt finish that

young pecan
#

That one confused me but I still did it for the points

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||Heinrix being like wtf bro||

tough haven
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I wish I didn’t have to pick fucking every icono option to get max

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They gotta make it easier to get affinity

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Cause some of them are fucking dumb

tough haven
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The option to ||use the c’tan shard is pretty crazy, won’t they just betray you at first chance when you eventually fuck up?||

storm jungle
#

Not really, because you pretty much raised it and taught it morals

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Nomos is pretty much a child when you start talking to him

arctic talon
#

Nomos is baby

tough haven
#

No no

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Not nomos

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I trust nomos

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The other one you can encounter

outer wave
#

||Like raising a C'tan and giving it morals and shit?||

storm jungle
#

Yes.

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Its great

storm jungle
outer wave
#

Damn we should put our faith in those baby ones

dusk patrol
#

There’s no way this can backfire

outer wave
#

Nope

storm jungle
#

I mean it doesnt

#

so KEKW_ogryn

outer wave
#

My C'tan son is so powerful....

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And he is so kind :)

tough haven
#

He is my beloved baby boy, he just wants to know what his purpose is

tough haven
outer wave
#

Time to raise one

tough haven
#

And it’s a nascent intelligence in your voidship

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First you have to bring one into existence somehow

#

I wonder what nomos is a shard of

#

Talking about spellcasting focuses in fantasy and I was thinking psychic focuses of meaningful items would be cool

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Not just staffs

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Or for tech priests focuses for their tech arcana

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Not thats how it works, but it’s entertaining, and most of their rituals don’t do anything anyways

#

Beyond maybe some nascent belief warp shit

arctic talon
#

its funny when a ritual is just basic instructions

tough haven
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Fr

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But takes 3x as long

outer wave
#

So someone I know apparently played through SM2 at probably a convention of some kind

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This is what he had to say about it

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Prolly better in theorycrafting

celest dome
outer wave
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Ah okay good good

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I did put it up there anyway but I can delete it

celest dome
#

Don't

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It's not like it's really bad or something

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Keep both

outer wave
#

GOD DAMMIT I ALREADY DID IT

#

If they ask about it, I'll put my shit back up

green loom
#

Console devs try not to make the worst PC control schemes imaginable challenge

outer wave
#

Yeah its a lil clunky there

wet sandal
#

I actually hate the camera perspective in all the sm2 trailers

#

It's somehow the most annoying third person possible

#

Like I'm fine with the third person in gta and elden ring, but this makes me gag for some reason

shell mason
#

I'm so violent and sick in the head, I can't tell if I want to kill my opps or fuck em - Lucius the Eternal

dusk patrol
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Sniper: “Sir I just sniped the enemy champion!”

Commander: “What?”

Lucius: “I said I sniped the enemy champion!”

dusk patrol
shell mason
#

he a baby back bitch

dusk patrol
rocky gale
#

Better than Sigvald

dusk patrol
shell mason
#

He has armor every where besides where it counts

dusk patrol
#

I do love that he makes his men all use mirror shields so he can see himself better

shell mason
#

His head and balls

rocky gale
#

His personal guard also have armour made of mirrors, for the same reason

shell mason
#

shut up

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I hate him

dusk patrol
#

It’s hilarious

rocky gale
#

Me too

dusk patrol
#

“Would you fuck me?”

rocky gale
#

It would be fine if Sigvald was like just some Slaaneshi mook, but I hate that he's like the main chosen Champion

dusk patrol
#

“I’d fuck me.”

rocky gale
#

He's literally just a guy

dusk patrol
#

I mean he is also a monster combatant

shell mason
dusk patrol
#

Although his description does kinda weird me out

arctic talon
#

Sigvald is in fact very good at murdering people

dusk patrol
#

They say he “appears to be little more than 16 summers old”

shell mason
#

I hate him

dusk patrol
#

Which like

arctic talon
dusk patrol
#

No he doesn’t

rocky gale
#

Like his entire lore is basically he's an incest baby that got special treatment from Slaanesh

dusk patrol
#

Where the fuck are you looking for 16 year olds, 90s high school comedies?

shell mason
#

His lore is that he a baby back narcissistic bitch that can't a L and I want to throw a spear at his unarmored balls

arctic talon
#

I’m pretty sure he has a cod piece

rocky gale
#

The best part of his lore is when Krell cuts his face and it causes him to rage and shatter his hands against Krells armour. Then Throgg crushes his skull

arctic talon
shell mason
shell mason
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If had to choose in either Lucius or Sigvald to fight, I'd choose Lucius cus at least he wont looking at his own reflect as he kills me

arctic talon
#

Lucius would also probably just shank you if your boring to fight

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So more upsides

rocky gale
#

I just think Sigvald pretty much just embodies the laziest elements of Slaanesh's pantheon.

rocky gale
#

He's pretty, he loves himself and he fucks

shell mason
#

who does he fuck?

rocky gale
#

Everything

shell mason
#

besides himself

#

if he could fuck himself he would

rocky gale
#

Yes

shell mason
#

Know who he reminds me of

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techknight from the boys comic

rocky gale
#

Ironically when Sigvald first encounters Slaanesh personally, Slaanesh appears as Sigvald because it is what would be most attractive to him

arctic talon
#

LOL

shell mason
#

I hate being right sometimes

dusk patrol
#

And was kinda disturbed by it

arctic talon
#

Also wasn’t that because he got a tumor

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

shell mason
#

yes

arctic talon
#

Like he was genuinely a relatively normal person before

shell mason
#

mhm

dusk patrol
#

He’s one of the few actually good heroes in the comics

shell mason
#

sad he died tho

dusk patrol
#

and now in the show he’s a rapist racist billionaire

shell mason
#

i somewhat liked him

dusk patrol
#

Whose into cake farts and BDSM

shell mason
#

UNLIKE SIGVALD

dusk patrol
#

How unique Kripke

rocky gale
#

I think my main issue with Sigvald is I don't like perfect characters who love themselves the way he's depicted, "Perfect" characters should hate themselves and be haunted by their own constant need for Perfection.

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Like me

dusk patrol
#

Wait here’s an idea guys, there’s a marvel or dc hero, but wait, he’s actually racist and does drugs and is into weird sex stuff

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Damn I’m a genius

shell mason
#

lets read some of the lore

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"Even as a baby, he was angelically magnificent, and his head was already full of golden strands of hair. He was born beautiful beyond reason. But had one small almost unnoticeable mutation, horned mark on the back of his neck that surly omened on what to come."

misty brook
#

Just wondering, but how many do we have counterparts with 40k to Fantasy? Tomb Kings to Nekrons, Druchii to Drukhari, High Elves to Aledari, and Wood Elves to Exodites, Empire is the Imperium, Storm Casts are Space Marines, Chaos is Chaos still, Orks are still Orks and I don't know after that.

shell mason
#

The web way it's self

dusk patrol
#

Also stormcasts aren’t in fantasy

shell mason
dusk patrol
#

Beastmen also exist in 40k

dusk patrol
shell mason
#

Leagues of votan

dusk patrol
#

Manlets of the Void*

shell mason
#

I will stab you like Erebus

outer wave
#

He's not a very human character though for sure

misty brook
#

So we have nothing for Kislev, Bretonnia, Skaven, Grand Cathay, and Arby.

outer wave
#

Nope not really

shell mason
misty brook
dusk patrol
#

There are also space vampires

misty brook
#

Would Horus if he traveled through time with his Legion, before he got stabbed and corrupted by accident through the Warp saw the 41st Millennium. Would he try to fix it or no?

dusk patrol
#

I think he’d try to get a grox burger

rose thorn
rocky gale
#

That was after though

#

The Mirror Guard were in Fantasy, he was only trapped in a Mirror during AoS after he died during the Endtimes

golden meteor
#

So like in actuality, all “holy blessings” of the emperor are technically just some form of Psychic power right? So doesn’t this mean that all of the zealots are technically just some form of psyker?

green loom
green loom
dusk patrol
#

Yeah miracle stuff is weird

#

It also works in areas like the pariah nexus sometimes

winter vessel
#

I just accept it as is. Some of it is the work of psychic power, others can actually be genuine divine power. To associate with either one just hurts my brain

dusk patrol
#

Games workshop likes to keep it nebulous

#

Kinda like how in fantasy the Faith Magic Warriors Priests used was explained by some literally casting magic and other times it was less clear

arctic talon
#

acts of faith are psychic in nature though

golden meteor
#

Hm ok

azure knoll
#

would it be possible for a space marine chapter to have a way of warfare where they send out singular, one man army marines to missions?

#

im thinking they send a singular infiltrator/operative/strategist space marine (who man basically the whole chapter) to missions to do infiltrator/operative/strategist-eque tasks

dusk patrol
#

Idk about one man army but Raven Guard, Deathwatch, and kinda Mentors do that

#

Others as well depending

azure knoll
#

like the mentors but not dumb sounding

#

how old are schola progenium graduates?

tough haven
#

Like probs like 18-20

#

Maybe younger

celest dome
golden meteor
#

But even sorcery is considered warp related right

celest dome
#

Oh yes

#

In fantasy all magic come from Chaos

#

In 40k all magic do so too

#

Though Necron tech isn't magic

#

Which is a case of "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"

plush mason
#

necron tech will make your brain hurt, best to not think about it too much

storm jungle
plush mason
#

so where are the naval officers trained in 40k?

#

is it the schola progenia like the commissars?

storm jungle
#

Some are drawn from the Schola Progeniums, some are sponsored by their families and put into service.

#

basically like the actual old british navy

brisk agate
#

Like really Alpha legion was the only chalter to operator like this

green loom
#

The Mentors straight up operate like that lol

green loom
#

Thank you for the encouragement rannick

queen laurel
shell mason
#

yo nerd chat

plush mason
#

sup nerd

plush mason
#

its hard to really wrap my head around the idea of a fortress world

#

in a way the people on them are basically human space marines

storm jungle
#

Cadia is one of the special cases where the Kasr cities are literally built like bunkers in every street, distrinct, plaza and so on

plush mason
#

i mean the way the people are rised

storm jungle
#

Its basically child soldier-ism mixed with military conscription, its also pretty simple

plush mason
#

they are all but born training for war

storm jungle
#

Yeah but not everyone makes it

#

Even trained Cadians break and flee sometimes, they arent perfect, they are just trained to a "fitting" enough level and deemed good enough

plush mason
#

ofc

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

Uhhh it would be extremely unusual and probably make that necron overlord seem like a nutjob, more than usual that is

#

him using canopteks would make more sense

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

Yeah but why

queen laurel
#

what else

storm jungle
#

But why tyranids

#

just use canopteks

queen laurel
storm jungle
queen laurel
#

a nutjob necron overlord sounds funny

#

And he also uses canoptek tyranids?

#

even more bloody hilarious

celest dome
#

Wait it's another timeline ?

queen laurel
#

yeah

#

after all in that timeline this guy lives

celest dome
#

Oh

#

Had forgot there were 2 timelines

queen laurel
celest dome
#

The Coop mode is great

queen laurel
rocky gale
queen laurel
#

You win this time witch hunter

hallow basin
dusk patrol
#

But just making an eccentric Necron lord with a lot of constructs and heavy use of scarabs

#

That’s reasonable

queen laurel
#

Following tyrannid aesthetics is going to make it funnily enough rather restrictive

dusk patrol
#

There’s already a fair amount of Necron constructs which work for that basically

queen laurel
#

Or another an original giant thing name

dusk patrol
#

There’s a lot of wacky Necron things which don’t have art and models too

queen laurel
#

We don't have a lot of interpretations for it but hey it's there

dusk patrol
#

Basically

storm jungle
#

Yeah its fine as long as you keep it within necron parameters

#

like we already got a pirate lord necron lol

queen laurel
dusk patrol
rocky gale
#

Oh new Ahriman book

#

Was that announced before?

storm jungle
#

Bruh another ahriman book?

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

#

You could say he’s

#

Undying

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

Five now although the fourth was more a novella/long short

#

Not sure how long this will be

storm jungle
#

It looks pretty thick

viral halo
#

new house of the dragon tonight folks

#

let's lock in

storm jungle
#

Hope you like Harry'shall

#

I mean Harrenhall whoops

viral halo
storm jungle
#

I still cant believe Hoare is a real name

#

my guy built that entire castle to overcompensate

viral halo
#

Fuck if I could have a big castle I would

storm jungle
#

I would also try as hard as I can to melt it down ontop of you post construction day

rocky gale
#

Do you think they get tired of the "Son of a Hoare" jokes?

viral halo
storm jungle
#

I mean he did enslave the entirety of the riverlands

#

so that might have been one of the reasons

rocky gale
#

Wait

#

Is the new episode Rooks Rest?

storm jungle
#

I THINK thats the guess everyone is having?

viral halo
#

Boy oh boy I hope the next episode has some violence in it

storm jungle
#

also isnt the episode coming out next week?

#

aka like 1-2 days later

viral halo
#

new episode tonight

storm jungle
#

huh

#

alright works for me

viral halo
#

Tis every sunday

storm jungle
#

damn i didnt know

#

stupid timezones

viral halo
#

Timezones aren't real

rocky gale
#

Yea I think it's like 3am on Mondays for me

dusk patrol
#

I’ll probably still love it

#

But I’ll be annoyed while I do

viral halo
dusk patrol
#

Yes yes I know Cole is a prick, and he’s ducking Alicent and they’re all bitches and people aren’t taking it seriously and Daemon is a psychopath.

#

Let me see dragons hitting eachother

viral halo
#

I legit just want to pick up my action figures of them and beat them together

#

Like I alreay know what happens bc book but holy fuck just kick it up a notch

#

The last episode was great but still was fairly boring

rocky gale
#

Yea, I'm loving the series so far, but like we didn't need 3 ||Allicent and Cole|| sex scenes

viral halo
#

I would prefer the sex scenes || if they both got full frontally naked ||

dusk patrol
#

Tbh if I looked like the Cole actor and Aemonds actor

#

I’d be raising my hand for the nude scenes too

viral halo
#

Hey remember that random clip where larys strong was jerking it to alicent's feet?

#

why did they do that

dusk patrol
#

“Oh damn I gotta show off my tight muscled up 450 lb squat max ass?”

rocky gale
#

That scene adds something tbh

dusk patrol
rocky gale
#

and it's only one

dusk patrol
#

It’s their transaction

viral halo
#

Lmao really connects with modern audiences tbh

dusk patrol
#

Also its to show how he’s the worst kind of person ever

#

A feet guy

viral halo
#

For real

#

FREAK

#

Remember that time Bob Odenkirk got exposed for following tons of foot fetish accounts on insta lol

#

hilarious

dusk patrol
#

I can’t wait for next week when it turns out another beloved superhero stand in from DC or marvel is actually racist and into kinky stuff and also does drugs and some weird fetish.

#

In the Boys

#

HotD is my only hope now

rocky gale
#

I think the actor for Larys has said that it's not that he's attracted to feet, he's actually getting off to the fact that he's making Alicent ashamed of her feet.

dusk patrol
#

Idk, either way the point is pretty obvious

#

He’s a slimey fuck

rocky gale
#

Yae

dusk patrol
#

I’m sure it won’t be an issue that he replaced all her staff and is her spymaster now

green loom
#

I sure hope we get bloody ben

#

Also do you think they'll change Kermit and Elmo's names

dusk patrol
#

The good part of the show is that basically everyone is gonna die

#

The bad part is some don’t

rocky gale
#

I'm very sad that Otto got fired before we could get a foot scene with him and Larys

storm jungle
outer wave
#

Man I wish The Boys focused more on just taking down super heroes

storm jungle
#

this is how women speak btw