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Anyways which is better goblin or dungeon meshi kobold?
I love the dog kobolds, it’s the only thing I know about the anime
homophobic memes i enjoy though
Honestly the former for me
DM it
It’s not great.
I can confirm its awful
im glad we have an agreement
That sounds like your average warhammer account
i mean, its pretty normal for people who have hateboners for gays and trans to either have fetish for or are that themselves
I feel as though both are possible
what are the power cables on hot shot lasguns
are they just eletrical cables or do they hold a liquid
they look so weirdly rubbery
Power feed
thats how cables tend to look 💀
They're liquorice cables incase the operator gets hungry
i wonder what happens if they get cut
Unfortunately because Grimdark it is black licorice
here's the real kicker though:
would it be a fiber optic situation or an eletrical cable one
💀
I imagine it’s not made to be safely cut
Heavy duty power cables look like that. Seeing as how, you don't actually want them to be cut.
like if you cut it do you just get cut in half by pure laser energy or electrocuted
Depending on how lasguns work, cutting the cables would either just mean the gun is out of power or make it explode.
it probably just explodes yeah
electrical current/buzzing is more likely
explosion doesnt really make any sense
the real power-source is the backpack, not the cable
yeah if it's going to explode you need to damage the actual battery pack behind someone
the power source is magic, that we know from experience at least
its just electricity or some more miniaturized power source from modern day
magic is more necrons/eldar thing
Short circuit. Cutting the cable connects the internal neatral and positive wires together. Boom.
the way it works is "unconventional" is what i mean. like we dont know how lasguns are powered but we know that any form of energy can be converted into ammo, even heat
Unless there's a breaker or some kind of fuse in the power pack, which considering how plasma guns work, seems unlikely.
dont hot shot lasguns tend to explode?
Not really
or am i thinking of plasma guns
they barrels tend to melt from overuse
ah Yes the toss the battery in the fire that will work
Plasma guns
lasguns are the most reliable weapons of the imperium
Also we dont know but also most imperium power-sources are again just heat, plasma or electricity based to some extent, power-packs arent really any different
I wonder if plasma pistols are as iffy as full size plasma guns
its the same thing, just less punch
plasma weapons dont explode unless you actively abuse the firing
And I'm pretty sure you can react fast enough to throw it before it overloads right
i imagine it's always a case of how much you want to push your luck like on tabletop
I really need to learn how to play tabletop
fuck it we ball then
But these hands were not made for painting miniatures
plasma weaponry has two ways of firing on tabletop, normal and turbo which has a chance of instantly killing your own unit
which is funny
Catch all answer for any technical question ever.
^
AAAAA-
We have a:
Bullpup boltgun with underslung Plasmagun
i love how combi weapons have absolutely no standardization
They get pretty wacky
Need lasgun with masterkey for next update
Combiweapons are literallly gun plus other gun
my favorite is probably the combi flamer on the leviathan box knife lieutenant guy
just a bolter with a flamer on it
what more would you ever want
Tbf this is also a better version of the same fun, before the current one
A plasma gun on the flamer
has a melta instead of a plasma too, pretty neat
Bolt pistol on the multimelta
That art is older and comes
from someone taking the model version too literally
Since the model is “smushed” for the old Azrael model so he could hold it like that with their old casting ability
Melta is the main weapon.
There’s some really sick relic combi-meltas we see
Bolter secondary
There’s one called the Gatebreaker or something which fires a wide cone melta blast
meltas usually fire laser beams right
intercessor squads have this really cool underslung grenade launcher bolter
It varies but it’s generally not a huge radius yeah
Its always a laser beam
Multi meltas are a lot wider typically
Huh, according to the latest WarCom article Steve Lyons didn't want to originally write about DKoK, he wanted to write about Necrons and basically picked DKoK to pair against them because he thought they looked cool.
SM made it look like a laser shotgun
Now he's stuck as the Krieg guy
Yeah as much as i like the shotgun interpretation it's nice to hear about it
it actually explains why this book just sucked
Rip
"I actually started with the Necrons. I wanted to write for them, so I had to find an Imperial Guard regiment to pit against them. I looked through a list of regiments for inspiration. I didn’t know much about the Death Korps of Krieg, but they jumped out at me, precisely because they seemed similar to Necrons in some respects"
Ohh hey this is a pretty neat kill team art
Dead men walking was... An odd book
It is kinda funny
imagine being so inhuman that you are literally compared to a robot with no emotions
he literally went
"im gonna cosplay as krieg"
okay buddy good luck with those necrons
Actually the necrons have more personality
Ironically yeah
BUT
Im pretty sure this was pre-newcrons
like a literal year or months
but not like it takes anything from the story, we never see necron "leaders" in it
I mean he was doing ok before that. But it’s more he didn’t care anymore he was so dead inside by the end.
What separates a newcron from an oldcron anyway
Personality
Hm. I don't recall when the book took place, I was too caught up with the whole necron slavery subplot and Krieg cosplayer.
Characters
What did Steve Lyons mean by this
a dead men.... walking
Well he's definitely dead now
walking...dead
LOL
And yeah i get the reasoning behind it
its more that it was just "well okay i guess"
im also a sick fuck so i guess its why it made me laugh more than feel any sort of sadness

Mostly I was just perplexed by it. Dude, it's been like a week, you are not that bad off, use your new skills and get the hell out of there.
that is why you are our favorite necron overlord
you're one scary mf

Yeah this too
I get it his mind was broken because the e-girl he was simping for left
but like yeah the fuck do you want her to do lmao
Maybe kick him in the nuts so that instead of being sad he feels pain instead
Crazy thing is if he just got her attention, she probably would have immediately went with him.
That’s
The point
He’s completely changed
He goes from bright and cheery and all that to being a husk
He’s literally the title smh
It was done poorly, yeah
Idk it’s kinda silly to be like “man all you saw was countless horrors over a week or two why are you so sad smh”
Its probably the way it was written tbh
that and i just did not like him as a character

not biased
Immense trauma is one hell of a thing to go through, but is it enough to make you lose your will to live? Especially when you have a clear shot at escape?
I mean. Yeah
can an ork that inhaled 500 lbs of cocaine wrestle a Titan to the ground
it depends
Like I get it’s a book but he witnesses some fucked up stuff
Warhammer has too much cooks in the kitchen
I'd pay good money to see that
I just don't buy it.
Too many cooks
It's mostly consistent most of the time but yeah it really shows with the amount of authors
The details can absolutely get mixed here and there
Have you ever read any military biographies or accounts of stuff like Iwo Jima or Somme or other horrific battles
Too Many Cooks
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Dudes in WW1 weren’t on the front long
Thats what i meant
And they weren’t constantly fighting when they were often
I've read and seen more than most. Been there myself. It's why I don't buy it.
Well the next point was, a Necron invasion is a fair bit worse than that
He had a way out and a reason to want to leave, the girl he loved.
Instead he just gives up.
He doesn’t give up he has a reason he states directly
It'd be different if his situation was hopeless but it really wasn't
Sounds like something got lost in translation with the idea vs the execution/writing of the idea
I mean he literally just says it
I only read that book because I’m starved for necron comtent so I thought maybe I’d get necron perspective
But nope
My point is that it was poorly written. His reason doesn't ring true to me.
I don’t think it’s a good reason but he’s not exactly in a rational state of mind
^
And he’s not supposed to be, the point is he’s kinda dead inside and nihilistic, and wants to kill “one more” for each guy who couldn’t
Idk why we’re ascribing a rational state of mind to a dude whose basically insane by the end
People aren’t really rational like that in situations like that, hopelessness, depression and anxiety aren’t rational emotions
He’s someone who didn’t have a hard life at all and suddenly he’s out into that situation
It’s a case by case basis though
Yeah
Like it’s not gonna be like that for everyone but I don’t think it’s that crazy that a person could break like that
He saw horrible things but he also showed to be determined and willful. Not an hour before, he was going to dive into a necron tomb with a nuke strapped to his chest.
And it wasn’t unclear at all what was being told
True, but doesn’t that strike you as someone who doesn’t really care if he lives or dies?
Yes which goes into it more, he didn’t care about his life anymore
He had changed but at the last moment he just. Throws everything he could have away, the very reason he did it all in the first place.
Will can only take you so far
It strikes me as someone willing to sacrifice themselves for a greater cause, not someone who's suicidal
I agree with you looking in from an outside perspective, but it’s kinda supposed to be shitty and pointless
It just sounds really irrational, to me who hasn't read this book anyway
I don’t think he’s necessarily suicidal, just nihilistic and numb
Who’s been somewhat brainwashed by a regiment that is willing to sell their lives dearly over all else
Bro is not in the right mindset it sounds if he wants to willingly throw himself into a tomb and blow it up with a nuke
If he's trying to emulate the krieg, he failed.
They left when the fight was impossible, he walked right up to them.
That's suicide.
The one girlfriend lady he has doesn’t recognize him at all which is kinda the point, he might as well be a new person. He’s can’t just hop on the flyer and leave
You need proper mental constructs and tools in addition to resiliency and will to rationally view your options in hopeless or difficult situations and that is 100% not taught widely in the 40K universe lol
(Or ours)
That might be the point, trying to emulate this unrealistic and heroic (and memed) ideal of the krieg
When in reality it’s just cold numbers and efficiency with them
Sure they are willing to lay down their lives, but only if it’s deemed to be worth the trade
This too, he just doesn’t feel any connections to his old life
I did like a pdf perspective for a while though
More books like that might be cool
40k Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now
My point is that he didn't even try.
I don’t envy being your guys English teacher
I’d ascribe that to the writer just deciding he needs to die lol
The Heart of darkness comparison is actually pretty good, but again, it was not written well at all.
Like yeah he’s not rational
I would love to read 40k Heart of Darkness
That would be wild
Like a pointless struggle into a death would have been one thing, but he just says “nah actually I’m just gonna keep killing robots”
There was one book that was sorta close. Closer to apocalypse now.
I don’t think the book is that great but that part was super obvious what was going on I thought
Yeah
Oh shit
Except that he knows full well that he'll die immediately.
Yes
Once again he’s not being rational
This is like almost an overdone trope for war movies and stuff
Bright eyed person gets put through hell and changes for the worse
It doesn't make any sense that he would just give up. He had options.
Sure but irrational isn't the same as suicidal.
Why not?
Irrational just means it doesn’t make sense, it can easily be suicidal
For him it was about caring more about settling a score than he did going back to his old life
Yeah, no one’s arguing it’s a good decision
Because most of that irrational behavior is usually driven by an impulse. His stated impulse is to keep fighting, something which he has shown he knows how to do. He understands clearly what his chances are and what he is doing.
Yes and that changes him
True, but it can easily spiral into it
Anyways, book wasn’t great, we should probably move on
Enough to make him a different person, sure. But not enough to throw everything away and walk into certain death.
Going in circles yeah
Regardless, yeah I don’t care for the books much
They’re fine
Guys we should write a 40k book together....
Egh. Fine.
Dead Men Walking is probably the best
It would be terrible
Hilarious*
Terrilarouis
Anyway, 40k apocalypse now is a book by Henry Zou called Flesh and Iron
Uh
I'll keep that in mind, thank you!
About that guy…
Something up?
Henry Zou sorta ripped a war memoir for one of his books
Got canned by BL immediately after
Huh.
lmao
Which book?
Bastion Wars iirc
Never read it. Scumbag move, Zou.
I think i get his reasoning behind it, he just didnt think it through.
also yeah this is like a mid 2000's book, pretty old
What was his reasoning? Some kind of tribute or reimagining?
It’s a pretty blatant rip so whatever he says
Probably laziness or concern about being able to write the book idk. It’s weird too cause he could have gotten away with it if he just changed more
But it’s a blatant rip
Made 40k
And it’s also the worst book of the three imo for 40k
It read weird
Weird
Genuinely I thought a lot of his stuff was good but yeah
I mean it is good
but also career ending move is career ending move
Unrelated gif.
I through that was Elon musk..
Tbh not far from the truth
Wait he died?
What? no. I mean, probably
the guy has the face shape to be fair
in that he got his face boxed in and crunched by an ork
I don't know, but I meant for Call of Duty.
Make him frown
Oh... i tought the actor died
Just his career
Nah
the people that reported his behavior surely mysteriously died though
what a tragedy, wonder what happened

You guys need to read a fucking book or news article jfc
How do you not know what happened to Kevin Spacey
I don't give a damn about famous people in general.
Okay to be fair
unless you actually are within the media sphere or know a lot of movies
you will basically see him as "oh yeah that famous dude"
so i kinda get it
Or if you’ve touched grass
I actually couldn't remember his name
He was probably one of the more infamous MeToo deals
This man fr told an ogryn player to read
Don't worry, Ulgo. I'll read for you.
You guys make Ogryns look well informed and educated
Thanks
Thank you!
But no it is funny to me
Wait
You guess?
lore™️
Elon tusk?
To be fair, he does embody the Orkoid virtue of failing upwards
Why is that snake oil merchant mentioned in here?
Excuse me
Ajhdhshsjd
Basically
Why would you make servitor rounds?
They’re able to track and go around corners and shit
Homing rounds basically
Automatically headshot or go for weak points and all that
Okay that's cool but also incredibly dumb sounding
Its why human tracing rounds IRL are basically never funded lmao
also unrelated but need to keep this image handy for anyone who keeps asking how the Imperium finds psykers that escape black ships
Me an intellectual:
Special equipment for the aura inspection
Well for the rest of us who know what setting this is and like fun
Servitor rounds is what happens when you tell someone you want Smart Bullets and they take it literally.
My ultra hyper realistic brain is screaming at the idea though
its dumb and unconventional ye
dont think so hard on it
the military industrial complex tries to invent shit like this all the time before giving up because the idea costs too much and is stupid
Hey, don't have an anecdote ready. Got sidetracked since Monday so I don't have much of a mojo

So I'm playing catch up with some lore bits...
It’s supposed to be a super expensive round which you have an super decked out elite force using, they’re not firing this shit willy nilly
Its Judge Dredd basically
They have all these exotic rounds for wacky scenarios
And because it’s cool
Idk considering the amount and cost of life on hive worlds plus how common servitors are, I'd assume these kinds of rounds are likely given to Arbites or some other military police faction within a hive city
That’s
Like they're very common
Arbites are super elite
Damn
I could see some Spire Noble using Servitor Rounds in a Gatling gun.
Skitarii use servitor rounds in galvanic rifles
Meanwhile a Vindicare is having an aneurysm as to why someone would use a servitor round
god watching the way these people "play" gives me cancer
Yeah I hate this kind of gameplay
Counter terrorists win
It just feels so unfun
So, I've read a bit of the Elyssiarchy or the "Imperial Cult". And frankly I'm not that Sætïsfiêd from what I gathered. So I have some questions to ask.
Exitus Rounds use cogitators
All of them
Yeah not servitors smh
And yeah appart from bigger shells rounds only have Cogitators and not full on Servitorisation parts
Its basically the catholic church but more corrupt
and add some flavor of more christian-fascism

Ecclisarchy isn't that catholic is it?
It’s also not one thing. It molds to the world in how it works, some it will be a sun god others it’ll be more spiritual whatever, others a Neptune thing or fisher king, and whatever
It’s a similar vein across all but it doesn’t follow a common mythology often
“It depends”
It somewhat is, though some argues that it's more Protestants, which make some sense.
On the otherhand, Admech is Orthodox as f
Yeah the admech is absurdly Catholic lol
yeah this also
The Ecclisarchy tries to weave the emperor into local myths and suck
idk the difference
im muslim lmao

I know that bit in a summarization
yeah there's way too much idolatry
The main body is still very much christian
ye
so like the divergence doesnt really matter in the wider showcase/artistic representation
also i forgot the entire thing of their missionaries "converting" people to their religion was something they did IRL too lmao
There’s also some worlds which have a very Islamic approach we see
I mean
It’s very similar to the Roman deal where you can do it how you want to some degree but you have to worship our dude
I think the idea of it is better then the execution, so I will think of the ideal rather then the execution
LOL
Its 40k it’s all goofy
So, before Big E kicked off the crusade. It was the "Word Bearors" that started this shenanigan.
No offense but catholic people have committed way more atrocities in history

Theres a difference between tallarn praying on rugs and becoming literal suicide bombers in tau occupied cities
i forgot what story that was but god
legit hate it
Not touching this subject
So, before Big E kicked off the crusade. It was the "Word Bearors" that started this shenanigan.
It was always fully the Emperor's fault for setting up the dominoes yeah
They were in charge of killing religous people/burning books lol
They were more just like
Propaganda hype boys
Ah
They heralded
or whatever their pre primarch name was
Yeah it’s that
World Bearers
What was the Emperor's stance on being worshiped ?
hates it
He didn’t care for it
This became an issue
Also lol irony cause you know
He’s worshipped now
Do you get it?
If you don’t, don’t worry
A little
They will make this joke fifty thousand fucking times
I CLAPPED BECAUSE DUNE REFERENCE
And foreshadow it every five minutes
Dune is so cool I wish islam was real
AAA-

sorry I had to 
Dune 2 is legit the perfect showcase of this
"He denies his godhood, he IS the messiah!"
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GW Moment
Life of Brian> Dune 2 is definitely one of the weirdest reboots ever
GW doesn't do this for books 💀
I can't wait for this all to get pirated in 12 milaseconds
thats why you can never reason with fanatics
But but the encryption
Right, so the Elyssiarchy and Administarum are basically rivals but still both work for the Imperium?
Yes.
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thats why it will take 12 milliseconds
Me when I'm reading a destiny lore tab and its suddenly in French and says Inshallah
every imperium department is rivals with each other for that political clout
^
No one gets along
Hmm, 
Literal cut throat politics
Also paper and ink
infighting is the cornerstone of the imperium
It’s also goes for within the department itself
Bro the scribes are literally playing GTA turf wars in their department
using pipe-guns and pipe-bombs and shit
its fucking hilarious lmao
i wonder what they use for ammo in their pipe-guns
To be fair they did have a pretty specific prophesy which kept coming true and Paul kept winning.
And Zendaya was such a buzzkill smh
LMAO
Yes we get it yass queen
Now let’s go do some galactic genocide
she can get out of the kitchen
Also she can maybe find a accent there
BRUH
does anyone know french, I don't trust google translate
It is kinda a funny duality of like, the prophesy sucks cause what it does but for the Fremen it’s kinda hard to argue it’s bad for a long long time from their perspective
Yeah like Paul is gonna cause a massacre sure but its kinda needed to some degree.
They kinda just keep getting dubs
I might do the occasional rolling blade stab genocide
Gotta get out a bit
See the galaxy
commit an atrocity to avoid humanity wiping itself out
Meet new people
or something
Kill them for being heretics
I forgor what The Golden Path was
Depends, Paul and Leto II's golden path diverge slightly from eachother
So, what I read from the Age of Apostasy. The Ministarum basically CRIPPLED any military formation in the Elyssiarchy. So how did they circumvent this besides the SoB?
Somewhere along the line it means someone has gotta be a worm god
They use SoB but it’s a bit more complex
Since SoB aren’t beholden to the church really
They exist to keep them in line as much as defend them
Leto's involving becoming a Tyrant so horrifyingly oppressive that it instilled in humanity a genetic hatred of oppression.
The Ecclesiarchy has something called the Frateris Militia which are basicially just a bunch of rounded up radical civllians cannonfodder
but generally the ecclesiarchy has no actual army
I do always love the concept of people becoming tyrants so everyone else can rally against them, even if generally the execution is meh
Watchmen does it too but idk if I like that one as much
One sec Alan Moore is outside my house rn trying to break in to strangle me
Watchmen does it great
the problem is Moore tried to do the opposite
and kinda failed
which helps the story
lmao
I’ll just clarify I mean the movie so he’ll go away
So the Elyssiarchy isn't too "fond" of this Confederation of Light
That is one thing I think the movie did better
It makes Dr Manhattan leaving make more sense too
Also yes
but like
their only lore is in the first sister codex
Imagine cheating on a guy who perceives all time periods at once smh
Dr Manhattan splitting into 5 people so he can paint minis and bang chicks 💀
The Confederation of Light was a religious order of the Imperium founded on the world of Dimmamar and a major rival to the Temple of the Saviour Emperor and later the Adeptus Ministorum.[1a]
with Thor gone im pretty sure these guys are basically non-existant
Also imagine you’re the lover of the most godlike being on Earth
And you’re like “I’m gonna cheat with this owl dude”
idk man the spandex is pretty sweet
At least break up first smh
Women™️
I mean it works out but still


wasnt his costume a moth?
Nah its an Owl
Alan Moore when he makes a super badass detective with a kickass look whose smart, anti authority and stands by his convictions people like him

LOL
Who could have seen this coming
also movie rorschach is leagues better than the comic one yeah
the comic one is like... literally an incel
People normally hate all that stuff
they both also eat BEANS
what's wrong with beans...
LMFAO
God
also "Possibly homosexual? Remember to investigate further." is peak meme format
one thing the comics did better than the movie was the ending, Manhattan gets the last laugh by leaving the main antag unsure if his plan would work in the long term (it didnt because Rorschach also got the last laugh and ensured the truth would be known)
Also most people hate it because of the squid.
I say they need to touch grass
yeah
Mfw I’m the smartest man on the planet and I leave the password to my computer as a book right next to it
Also it’s a super easy password
I will say though
I respect Alan Moores commitment to being a curmudgeony old man
to be fair hes literally rasputin
And hating everything adapted from his work
extremely relatable tbh
Idk if he even likes his own stuff
And if you’ve given him his morning coffee and donut
All right i'm just going to ask this to do factions have their equivalents of aggressors
Basically like these guys use specialized armor that have integrated weapons
Orks have meganobz so you don't have to tell me about that one
God f****** dammit
Aggressors were kinda stand ins for Termies for a bit tbh and still are sorta
Yeah it was prob before GW realised terminators are way too iconic to replace.
because they 100% debated that
lol
So if i wanted to find the faction equivalents that have specialized armor that have integrated weapons on them the terminator equivalents are my best bet
GW's various departments seems to ether not talk to each other or argue a lot, kinda like the imperium in a way lol
That is entirely correct
the departments in the studio sometimes has no idea what the other is doing
this was confirmed by ex-members lmao
In the Elyssiarchy, if I read this correctly, Exercists are a legit position?
Exorcists you mean?
The AOS part of the office agreeing on the model being a banger and having an amazing lore
I remember the story about GW not telling forgeworld 8th ed was coming out, and by that time they were about to release a campaign book, fires of cyraxis
Aggressors are very cool
If we want to talk about FW to 40k rules team not talking
just bring up the 8e rules ports for FW armies
💀
Yea
yeah exorcisms are a thing in 40k, they do horrible stuff to the people that get them because the daemons literally fuse to thier hosts so removing one by force like the exorcisms is most often fatal
But ye GW departments all hate eachother
Yeah its a legit rank, widely used
The main citadel AoS and 40k modeling team likes each other
The book was basically almost done, i recall he died way after it
Yo dilara do you have like an equivalent of gotrek and felix and Ciaphias Cain like book novels for aos
do not bring up the forgeworld team
Are they also used within Hereticus and Mallus?
Uh not really i dont think
Shit
It sucks because FW used to have some of the best designers
I've heard that the reason HH and 40k models aren't compatible anymore is because the two teams refuse to collaborate at all, HH refuse to limit their models to make them compatible to the 40k rules and 40k team refuse to make rules for HH designed models.
The Forgeworld team pretty much gets along with none of GW's main teams
like ever
its kind of absurd
with Bligh gone they went down under more or less
FW pretty much imploded when Bligh died unfortunately
some Imperial Armor books still overshadow entire warzone events in today's time
also yeah Bligh was behind SO MUCH stuff
Badab war is peak 40k
he wasnt alone obviously but he was the head honcho
I mean he provided proper direction
some of the more recent HH like campaign books feel
off I guess?
idk how to put it in words
it feels much more scattered
The old ones werent perfect either to be fair, remember the tourist of prospero?
So, hypothetically speaking would Hereticus and or Mallus call upon an exorcist for assistance if anything "wacky" goes on?
Also typically a properly done daemonhost kills the possessed person as soon as they get possessed
Darktide actually showcases this
the moment you kill the daemonhost the body its inhabiting drops dead
lmfao
okay true lmao
literally the most pointless detail but the fact they added it is neat
I actually don't see that part, and never really knew.
Yeah it's also a very perfect representation of what it's like for someone's dreams to leave their body
Imagine being a primordial terror of unknowable age getting clapped by four escaped convicts with rusty weapons who woke you up early
I think Beta Garmon was good
The other 2 I'm more
eh
Like I've seen the seen the deamon go into a portal or blow up, but I never really saw the host body
GW has a way of making factions less cool
Cthonia was fun
So can the Elyssiarchy get their own set of Fleet ships?
Damnit I thought of a pun and now my mind is turning it into a story.
Sons of horus looked sick, now that there the mascot bad guys there just evil green men
She’s too busy saying she’s not a naughty girl
In aos i will admit they succeeded in making every faction in warhammer fantasy which are already having some of the most basic stuff pretty f****** interesting

Basically the moment you deplete its healthbar the host raises its arms and the green mist/chaos juju on it floats upwards and dissipates, signalling the daemon in it has been banished. Then the useless host body fops to the ground
aka in the Exorcist movie the priests should have just busted a cap in that girl's ass
I dunno why they decided to push sons of horus so much, no one plays them
fucking vomiting little shit
He didn’t know the dodge pattern
Poster chaos faction
Ah, ok. I usually miss that part cause a lot of other shit is happening in between
they are the traitor Ultramarines
Lots of people do
I love the fact that theoretically ogryns just exorcised a daemon by punching the s*** out of it
Also most stuff is legion neutral anyways
^
They definitely get a lot of stuff but
Very little is properly legion centric outside of characters
And even that stuff can be proxied
I think the champion for loyalists
Common Rite of Percussive Maintenance W
Feel much more legion locked lol
The loyalist champion dude looks imperial fist as hell
Ye
I agree lol
The traitor one looks better
FW and the citadel modeling teams should just kiss and stop hating each other smh
That imperial fist tank commander is such a perfect iron hand option
Just need to shave away some symbols that’s all
Shame thats the only use of mk2
They’ll add it eventually
Games workshop likes money
I wouldn’t be shocked if eventually, we get some kind of Mk1 option
Idk about mk1
Too early, and i think GW would prefer to do all the current armor marks rather than design a new one
Then again they redesigned the mk3 so who knows
Unifiction vets still had some sets
The iron hands, Lord commander being the main example
I wouldnt mind seeing it
He just kept updating and upgrading his
didnt the mk1 suck ass?
like only half of it was powered iirc
Obsolete is different from just bad
Made it work for void combat
It wasn’t true Mk1
It was basically artificer for those who could
so basically mk1a1 lol
MK1 imo is genuinely the ugliest power armor
I think I like all of them except MK1
I like MK10 generally
I just didn’t like the egg gravis captain
Gravis best
I kinda never liked how psuedo form fitting the primaris stuff looked?
Specifically the chest piece
Doesnt leave a lot of blank spaces
General mk10
Ah I see what you mean
I dont mind when armor looks form fitting if it is exclusive to a unit, like the dangles, but when its the default it doesnt feel right personally
With all the other marks you could change them up so much you couldn’t tell what pattern it was
Ok, so does the Elyssiarchy have their own fleet of ships?
Idk its probably just me, i like it when a chest piece is simple
So is it a ship built around a church or church built around a ship?
You'd probably like what Pete the Wargammer does
He shaves the eagles off and leaves them blank or puts pouches there
Those are a bit better yeah
I think I love MK7 chestplates a lot
which is why I like MKX ones lol
MKX is like 2 of my favorite armor MKs mashed together
Yeah the mk7 is probably the best chesplate out of all the marks
It doesnt look naked without an aquila, and is very versatile looks wise
yeah mk10 is literally just the best parts of the older armors mashed togeather
From a lore perspective yeah from a visual one ehhh
the worst helmet
by all accounts the phalanx (imperial fist's ship which is the biggest one in the whole imperial arsenal) was built during the dark age of humanity. In all its depictions it's straight up a flying cathedral so you start to ask yourself whether humanity has always just loved gothic stuff or the imperium modifies everything to their aesthetic standards.
that or it's lazy writing
you have NO basis for this claim
this is an assumption
If we follow the Abnettverse then rogal dorn created it from scratch
however that makes no sense since "recently" the imperial fists straight up needed custodians to give them a cache of technology just to repair it
why would dorn know about dark age technology
conclusion: 40k's rule of "older is better" leads to a lot of inconsistencies and who cares
What old content could you all see GW bring back as for 40k, Necromunda or Kill-team?
He doesnt, they just reverse-makeshift-archifuck-modified it
Also hard question
because kill-team and necromunda bring back anything from oldhammer that is neat and cool
especially compared to the main 40k lines which is what makes them great
abnett's book literally says he made it from scratch
but that's just his own little vision
yeah because abnett
the gothic aesthetic comes from the Imperium
DAOT has no gothic aesthetic to it
still makes more sense to me than it being dark age
dark age shit is even less consistent than ancient alien conspiracies
Its pretty consistent
also yeah agreed on kill team being pretty much all about bringing in factions that wont ever get the spotlight in 40k
which is cool
i just want my dark mechanicum
also wait somewhat related question can you play solar auxilia against loyalist forces in 30k?
solar auxilia is supposed to be loyalist only right
i can see 30k getting a new guardsman regiment for horus's gang
Omg, anyone on pc here. Could you go look at youtube, press on a video and tell me if its an aids update that they just did or if my youtube is just bugged?
what does it look like
i think that's only for livestreams
Im on a video tho
doesnt look like that for me
Oh, i hope its a bug because i hate it 😦
better than mobile discord
WHY did they put DM's back in the server list 😤
i LOVE scrolling through 60 servers to find whoever messaged me
Hey so how do Blood Angels and its successors resist the red thirst?
They drink blood?
There’s traitor auxillia
Though a solid chunk of it stayed loyal
They have rules in 30k smh
Wiat that not a meme?
It depends chapter to chapter
Some of them do in fact drink blood to deal with it
Though a lot use art and such like the blood angels
I know the flesh tearers and flesh eaters do well
Some engage in self flagellation
The obvious
The blood drinkers are pretty benign about it
Is drinking blood technically resisting the urge ?
A lot of their serfs have “taps” in them
Isn't there one Blood Angels successor that is absolutely hated by all their brothers because how they hold off the red thirst?
Like is taking drugs "resisting" the addiction ?
And they drink a bit from their serfs blood every week
Sorry, cousin chapters.
I’d say it’s not devolving into the raging screaming thirsting monster
It’s resisting it
There’s drug recovery facilities that basically do that
They micro dose it
Yeah angels vermillion
They were the only ones who weren't called the Baal, but some of their marines turned up away against their chapter master's will.
They do a thing where they industrially mass murder a ton of people
Thank you.
And then they kill a sanguinary priest
Omg 3d printing reference
And then they drink and bathe in the blood

I think you can see why this is frowned upon
It’s like a few thousand+ people
I had an idea for a ba chapter based off of a dream I had
I know the second most white woman quote ever
Using venom from their home planet to resist the urge
That’s not that weird tbh
Less weird then self flagellation and then drinking your own blood
Tbh, I've recently wonder if a chaos god or daemon of truth could work in 40k with the state of the imperium.
Tbh whatever the fuck the emperor is now
Might as well be a minor chaos god
Or a “demi god” like vashtor
Yea that’s what I was thinking
Bur still interesting
Imagine tell all the blood angels and their successors that their father's spirit is still trapped on the Vengeful spirit.
Or the Inquisition about Imperium Secundus.
Alternatively you could tell certain CSM that Abaddon killing the Emperor would ascend him into Godhood.
what would be a genuinely cool Ogryn weapon?
Like from lore ?
yeah, I was wondering if theyve used any weapons in the lore which we havent seen in the game
Or even maybe weapons that are more like implaced guns, but an Ogryn would be big enough to just lug it around
Ranged: Autocannon; Multilaser; Lascannon; Lascutter
Melee: Spudjacker (Oversized Wrench); 2h Hammer; 2h Axe; 1h Axe; GSC Industrial Tools (Power Pick; Power hammer; Power Maul); Rock Saws; Flail
What about the option to make the Ogryn into a Ogryn Charonite
Need to be able to switch between melee/ranged in the mission
And the tech is fobidden in 40k
lascutter would definitely be cool
https://imgur.com/a/P05isag
Alternative for Charonites
I imagine that Ogryns are big enough to use Space Marine weapons, but for multiple reasons they arent given them
Tbh they can easily lug around stuff like heavy bolters
The thing is most ogryns don’t like guns that require finesse lol
Like a powersword
Too valuable, brittle, needed elsewhere...
Ah yes, the most fine weapon 
yeah from everything ive heard, they usually just hold the trigger until it's empty, then start using it like a club lol
Tbh ogryns can prolly use a multi melta no problem lol
are ogryns known to get tired quick, if we even have information on that?
I would consider Melta tech to be valuable and brittle enough that they wouldn't be given them
Absolutely not
I know theyre really strong, I just dont know if they can do that for ages or not lol
The fact the rejects aren’t puking when they smell it is impressive
Lorewise we should keel over right after being in the nearby area
to be fair we are so thoroughly "de-contaminated" even scalpels are involved lol
@arctic talon another hour spent on this
looks great
would you be willing to paint it
if I can get a friend to print it yeah
but I don't have a printer
so I can't guarantee anything
again no guarantees 
that's ok
Wait what do you mean by this?
During the new dialogue for the phage tree mission Brahms asks Kayex if de-contamination protocols are ready for when we get onboard the Mourningstar.
And he responds with saying everything down to even surgical cleansing scalpels are ready for the operation lmao
More thorough then Iax
What do the protocols/rituals do if scalpels are involved? 
That's a cool line though, I always wonder about the nasty places we find ourselves in even though I know that ritual at the start of the game is partly why we're less affected
Honestly god knows what
the fact that they surgically have to open us up to remove corruption of some kind is enough for me
💀
Maybe cleaning wounds and such ?
faith in the emperor yadda yadda yadda
Do people grow anything unwanted when they're involuntarily corrupted by Nurgle?
I mean yes 💀
Mmmm space AIDS
Maybe they're taking off the pinky fingers and other things growing out of our tummies now 🫃
that's slaanesh
Emperors children pre heresy lore:
LOL
nurgle is weird because he's the one chaos god who has actual physical analogies idk how to describe it
like you can't defend against the other chaos gods by purely non warp related means
we know how plagues work and diseases
but he's also magic so he straight up ignores gas masks sometimes?
does a blank just never get the cold?
i dont get it
so warp sicknesses arent just regular bacteria or viruses?
Yes, i think so
I think a story about a herald of Nurgle that found out about the bubonic plague trying to go around teaching everyone about it would be fun
do other gods have their own diseases
Yea
like what
Khrone currently has a computer virus
And like something called a blood fever if that’s 40&
Nurgle works the same way, his main thing is just diseases but the other chaos gods can inflict physical mutations through other means as well.
Depends on the plague, some are physically existing/based in reality, others are warp-infused.
And again thats not how blanks work

counterpoint:
balls
i think nurgle is interesting because he has this illusion of familiarity
he seems easy to understand and counter because he represents natural rules of nature
but he aint
and he's probably more alien to nature than nids are
how do you think the krigers felt when the uniform they've been drilled from birth to never take off and treat as their second skin started melting away from nurgle stuff on vraks
"ah shit i wasted my whole life putting on this gas mask and i'm dying anyways?!?"
Isn't Khorne big thing currently the Murder Curse
Or whatever it was called
actually that was just normal chemical weapons
💀
the nurgle guy's just went "YOOO FREE BOMBS"
lmao
i bet being a plague marine must be pretty fun
just run into the enemy and kill shit then take a break in the warp when you finally die
Khorne has a "plague" of insanity the murder curse and there's a tzeentch one that turns people into crystals
Yea because of Angron an entire Indomitus Crusade fleet fell to the Murder Curse and became Khornate cultists




Emperor goes crazy



