#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
^
queen laurel
The thing is they are functioning firearms they are just built very badly
shell mason
arctic talon
The tactical squad outsold most other ranges in 7e
storm jungle
hence my jedi example
arctic talon
Which is hilarious
green loom
arctic talon
but also indicates whos buying a lot of stuff
either way marines are cool
smh
And if it means them getting more releases helps other armies get stuff
who cares
shell mason
Cant a man raise chaos without being hanged at the alter?
storm jungle
Kingsman Church Scene moment
arctic talon
Yes because your opinion is stupid
Sentenced to being drawn and quartered by 40,000 snails
shell mason
I make hot takes
shell mason
and very bad opinions
crystal forum
do orks believe that i can get a girlfriend
spring cairn
no
shell mason
No
storm jungle
no
arctic talon
do orks believe that i can get a girlfriend
they don't have a concept of love
so no
spring cairn
and even if they did
shell mason
death by 40000 snails
crystal forum
green loom
do orks believe that i can get a girlfriend
No they know what you are
dusk patrol
There has been single marine models which have outsold entire fractions for the year
spring cairn
(smelly)
queen laurel
do orks believe that i can get a girlfriend
no
because that would count as reality bending
storm jungle
There has been single marine models which have outsold entire fractions for the ...
^
storm jungle
Marines are big armored men in space
they are selling good because they are simple and cool
its the Master Chief effect
spring cairn
everyone like armor be it a suit of armor or tanks, I think that's a fact of life
storm jungle
Well not everyone but like 90% of the planet prob
lime venture
imperial knights are bigger and more armored men(or women) in space
storm jungle
men and women*
crystal forum
the armor makes up for the lack of personality
storm jungle
spring cairn
I will kill the 10% to make us whole
green loom
Wibble
queen laurel
its the Master Chief effect
cool armor is sci-fi is big money
shell mason
In all honesty just want to stir shit up as This dlc final boss is feeding me my own asshole
crystal forum
dont forget the crysis suit
lime venture
cool armor is sci-fi is big money
dont forget Destiny 2 solstice armor sunbreaker titan with vanguard unity shader
spring cairn
In all honesty just want to stir shit up as This dlc final boss is feeding me my...
took me 5 hours or so with a pure STR build
arctic talon
In all honesty just want to stir shit up as This dlc final boss is feeding me my...
Stop losing
lime venture
yeah just undie
arctic talon
Final boss is prolly getting nerfed for Erdtree though
shell mason
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST
queen laurel
anyway can an STC run Crysis 1
yes but can it run this
spring cairn
I had to get naked and even equip the equip load talisman just to reach light roll
spring cairn
so that god got killed by a naked man with a disproportionately large hammer
shell mason
I'm doing this no mimic tier or summons
shell mason
Raw dogging
spring cairn
don't need all to reach 100% anymore since patch at least
shell mason
Im at 14 rn
spring cairn
nah
crystal forum
hi at 14 rn i'm jay
shell mason
Not really
spring cairn
summons actually troll you
arctic talon
Lol
queen laurel
hi at 14 rn i'm jay
You will never be a dad stop
arctic talon
Doesn’t really matter though
spring cairn
they buff the boss and just make it unpredictable
arctic talon
DLC was good
crystal forum
You will never be a dad stop
i can be a daddy
queen laurel
i can be a daddy
nope
spring cairn
no multiple ending nor meaningfull choices to make yeah
arctic talon
Oh also the most important lore drop being completely unrelated to the main story of the DLC us funny as shit as well
spring cairn
i can't see myself playing it again
arctic talon
It’s completely unrelated to Miquella
spring cairn
i'm quite miffed the dlc also has absolutely no connection to main game
spring cairn
no i mean
arctic talon
Oh
spring cairn
literal connections
spring cairn
not lore stuff
spring cairn
like you do it, and it's like nothing happened
queen laurel
hey look up on the ceiling
i added pictures of drake in your intercom
arctic talon
shell mason
are they?
crystal forum
i added pictures of drake in your intercom
it says gullible on the ceiling
spring cairn
or stuff in it doesn't even change depending on the choices you made in the main game
crystal forum
made you look
queen laurel
ah yes the boy pussy pounder
queen laurel
it says gullible on the ceiling
no you did not
spring cairn
I pulled up like this to "that place" and i expected some kind of connection tbh
arctic talon
He’s just not that kind of evil specifically
arctic talon
I pulled up like this to "that place" and i expected some kind of connection tbh
Oh
LMAO
spring cairn
also it's always funny talking to npc and giving them the chaos stare as they talk about how honourable you are
like mf are you blind
queen laurel
like mf are you blind
Did you tell the blind girl that the grapes were eyes ?
spring cairn
ofc
arctic talon
arctic talon
Did you tell the blind girl that the grapes were eyes ?
Always tell her that smh
queen laurel
Always tell her that smh
I really need to get a chance to play elden ring
spring cairn
you can even let her taste 2% of your power at then end and she melt
queen laurel
i just need to get the bull goat armor
shell mason
FUCK
queen laurel
And a very large fuck off weapon
shell mason
WE BALL OUT HARD
spring cairn
if you want to have bull goat and a colossal weapon at the same time get ready to lvl up to lvl 200
because the stam you'll need
queen laurel
if you want to have bull goat and a colossal weapon at the same time get ready t...
fuck it we ball
shell mason
THIS IS HOW WE BALL BOYS
wintry scarab
I fucking hate this new trend thats going on in media where apparently if your character isnt showing his face, the viewer cant "connect" with them. So dumb.
spring cairn
why you have a dog head
shell mason
why you have a dog head
CUZ HE GOT THAT DAWG IN HIM
spring cairn
shell mason
YAYA
crystal forum
what is this game
spring cairn
dark soul 1
shell mason
Elden ring dlc
crystal forum
space marine 2?
shell mason
wat
crystal forum
you're too young
shell mason
Explain
crystal forum
no
shell mason
why?
crystal forum
idk
spring cairn
where do you put rings ? Zero.
wintry scarab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNplHvm-i3k Also, this trailer is going to get memed to hell and back if this game turns out to be dogwater.
shell mason
mhm
spring cairn
still haven't watched it
wintry scarab
Not mutch to see tbh. Besides the last scene i guess. Just devs saying empty words that are yet to be proven.
shell mason
I already read it
storm jungle
ew
storm jungle
Traitor Amongus?
shell mason
Stfu lmao
plush mason
lmao
plush mason
that game ruined us
shell mason
Not really
crystal forum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNplHvm-i3k Also, this trailer is going to get m...
this is just typical game marketing
shell mason
it started with fortnite
lime venture
not entirely accurate but fair
crystal forum
or even more shittier TTT
shell mason
Phase 2
lime venture
its not really a bad game i played it before it was memed to hell, it just got memed to hell
shell mason
TIME TO DIE BOYS
crystal forum
not my type of game i guess
shell mason
called it
crystal forum
is there an ork called ballcrusher
shell mason
Yes its your mother
crystal forum
does he have a model
i just read a post where somebody mentions ballcrusher
idk if he's real
anybody?
arctic talon
don't think so lol
shell mason
No
crystal forum
ok
celest dome
How is a Sister of Battle nunnery called ?
storm jungle
Convent
spring cairn
covent no ?
spring cairn
storm jungle
Its Convent not Covent
celest dome
Thank you
storm jungle
Covent is actually a word
noun A meeting; a gathering; an assembly. noun A convent or monastery; the monks or nuns collectively. noun An agreement; a covenant.
So its just two variations I guess?
storm jungle
leaden pilot
Pronunciation in English is super weird lol
rocky gale
It's actually not a convent.
In sororitas terms a convent is like the overarching thing which contains multiple Orders
storm jungle
yeah its basically a HQ/Fortress, it can go from being a moderate temple to a large wolfenstein villain-tier castle and whatnot
rocky gale
So Martyred Lady, Valorous Heart and Bloody Rose are Convent Sanctorum, while Ebon Chalice, Argent Shroud and Sacred Rose are Convent Prioris
storm jungle
Oh that, nah the term "Convent" gets used for any sororitas HQ
Prioris and Sanctorum are just the two important ones
hence their extra second wordings
rocky gale
Nuh
Commands have different titles dependent on size, Mission being smallest, then Commandery, then Preceptory and then the Orders, then the Convents
rocky gale
storm jungle
BLAME THE AUTHORS NOT ME
rocky gale
I hate GW
celest dome
So if the Sister system has smaller "local" houses I suppose they would be called Convent Minoris ?
rocky gale
There's smaller Orders Minoris who fall under the two Convents same as the Orders Majoris
Some of the Minoris Orders have less than 100 sisters and are isolated to a single world
storm jungle
Minoris as the name says is "minor" yeah so any small order like she said
Sisters tackle the place between Guardsmen/Marines where they are way more numerous than space marines but not near Guard levels
any major or minor order that gets destroyed can also get subsumed my their parent one
or just to any other order
rocky gale
And there's a kinda messy area where the Canoness Superior of a Major order technically outranks the Canoness Superior of a Minor Order
storm jungle
yeah Minoris orders more or less got no choice but to comply with the big founding Orders
rocky gale
So like Canoness Superior of Bloody Rose could give orders to Canoness Superior of the Order of the Thorn
storm jungle
Yeee, its a pretty simple system since Sisters are less into dick-measuring for the most part compared to Chapters
rocky gale
Yea it's pretty straightforward:
"I outrank you"
"Okay"
storm jungle
It also helps that their faith/belief system helps unifying them more since your options are literally:
- One of the founding sisters of the main major orders
- Big E
lol
outer wave
How varied are the sister orders?
keen nova
With the redundancy amongst the primarchs, Who is the giliman of the traitors?
rocky gale
They can vary quite a bit culturally actually
outer wave
Oh cool, cuz I was thinking they'd initially be kinda same-y with one or two exceptions
rocky gale
Can't remember the specifics but I know there's a short story where a Sister was transfered to another Order and misses her old one because the new one is so different
The Martyrdom of Sister Ishani
outer wave
Can't remember the specifics but I know there's a short story where a Sister was...
Me when I moved to my current job (I still sorta miss the folks)
storm jungle
With the redundancy amongst the primarchs, Who is the giliman of the traitors?
Nobody, they all do their own thing.
Abaddon is the only chaos big honcho multi-tasking and unifying everyone and making sure people (mostly) do what they are told.
keen nova
How varied are the sister orders?
They can vary with culture and tactics, but im not the Informative. People who get their stuff off of youtube are really shakey lol. I'd recommended majorkill's video on sister ordros for the quick n' dirty
outer wave
I'd like to avoid Majorkill's videos generally but I thank you for the recommend
rocky gale
Like she's a hospitaller and hates that in the new Order all the other Sisters are grim and want to die
Whereas her old Chapter was more full of life and joyous in their worship of the Emperor
outer wave
Like she's a hospitaller and hates that in the new Order all the other Sisters a...
Oof yeah that'd be awful to contend with
keen nova
Nobody, they all do their own thing.
Abaddon is the only chaos big honcho multi...
Figures, But there are Borderline redundances. Corvus and corand aren't the same, And they're wisely not always put against each other. Neither are sangunis and fulgrim. The only one I can really think of is purty and dorn.
tough haven
storm jungle
Figures, But there are Borderline redundances. Corvus and corand aren't the same...
Perturabo is too petulant and Dorn is too blunt both mentally and the way he acts to be one.
Hes basically good for defenses and nothing else
the Siege showcases this pretty well 
stark cargo
With the redundancy amongst the primarchs, Who is the giliman of the traitors?
Good question. Horus? Though it's probably the other way around, with Guilliman perhaps being the only one who could coordinate a Great Crusade in case Horus got killed?
tough haven
https://youtu.be/Ghtpc5nGPU0?si=9wKSHIbwbWpDtyLw
Ladz, is this Orky?
storm jungle
Good question. Horus? Though it's probably the other way around, with Guilliman ...
Horus doesnt have much aside from Charisma
his plans arent great, hes also pretty blunt and mostly just gets what he says due to being the "favored son"
he himself said he doesnt really deserve to be Warmaster before he went mad
rose thorn
Finally convinced my old world loving partner to do an AOS ttrpg campaign
keen nova
Good question. Horus? Though it's probably the other way around, with Guilliman ...
Some people said purty, that his Order and discipline are Comparable
outer wave
Finally convinced my old world loving partner to do an AOS ttrpg campaign
Let's goo!!!
storm jungle
Some people said purty, that his Order and discipline are Comparable
Perturabo literally strangles his sister for calling him a manchild
He has no discipline and like i said petulant
thats his achilles heel in most of the stuff he appears in
arctic talon
Perturabo’s legion is disciplined, he himself is not
storm jungle
That also depends
arctic talon
The iron warrior warbands are
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arctic talon
Though enough stayed around father dearest
storm jungle
But yeah not any of the primarchs got any "matching" qualities aside from Loyalist/Traitor Allignment
them being "good for this thing" would depend on another positive/negative quirk they have that is entirely within their personality boundries
arctic talon
Tbh the most coordinated and United legion is either the death guard or word bearers
Most fragmented award goes to the alpha legion or night lords
rose thorn
Let's goo!!!
A night haunt, a skaven, and a duardin working under an extremist witch hunter
arctic talon
A night haunt, a skaven, and a duardin working under an extremist witch hunter
Peak fiction
storm jungle
vermintide tier
arctic talon
What type of skaven
outer wave
A night haunt, a skaven, and a duardin working under an extremist witch hunter
That's hilarious
Actually yeah, they don't got a proper character sheet thing do they?
stark cargo
Horus doesnt have much aside from Charisma
Agreed, it's not a perfect match. (Abaddon resembles him more) But I think the Emperor planned some redundancies with the Primarchs.
arctic talon
Actually yeah, they don't got a proper character sheet thing do they?
Skaven don’t have anything yet in soulbound afik
rose thorn
Actually yeah, they don't got a proper character sheet thing do they?
We are using path finder
outer wave
Ohhh, 1e or 2e?
rose thorn
2e
outer wave
Nice
arctic talon
ah
spring cairn
i wouldn't work with a skaven even if it was forced to help me at gun point tbh
stark cargo
He didnt plan anything they just got failings
There seems to be some duplication of chapter focus. Like the siege experts or the terror experts.
There's also the theory that the Emperor actually planned to do a Thunderwarriors 2.0 and cull some chapters. Or he expected some to fall to chaos and having to exterminate them.
storm jungle
There seems to be some duplication of chapter focus. Like the siege experts or t...
We got no grounds for that aside from like one short story which people extremely stretched to make it seem like the Emperor planned all this
the End and the Death reveals he really just did not expect everything to fall apart this badly, even his fight against Horus is the perfect example of this
He has no plan after a point, he just keeps pulling parlor trick after parlor trick to buy more time for himself so his saiyan son doesnt body his ass
arctic talon
tbf
some of the geneseed "defects" were intentional
shit like the red thirst was on purpose
storm jungle
Im talking more about him planning some to fall to chaos which is like very dumb.
geneseed defects are another can of worms
shell mason
Mhm
shell mason
I mean
spring cairn
because horus heresy
storm jungle
oh right whoops branding
storm jungle
Yeah but this wasnt planned
the traitor primarchs are results of their environment
and shit pals
spring cairn
Still funny that a blind man could've seen half of them falling to chaos a mile away
shell mason
MORTY COULD HAVE LOYAL IF THE EMPEROR DIDN'T FUCK HIM OVER
storm jungle
Marvel comics ahh plot
storm jungle
MORTY COULD HAVE LOYAL IF THE EMPEROR DIDN'T FUCK HIM OVER
if all it took for him to hate Big E was kill-stealing i doubt it
shell mason
IT WAS FABIO JESUS WANNABE WHO ROB HIM OF THAT
storm jungle
shell mason
He stopped angrons final stand
spring cairn
that doesn't matter really
spring cairn
dude got the mad engine in his brain
stark cargo
Perhaps. But he did Thunderwarriors 1.0, and I would expect him to plan for an end of the Great Crusade.
And it's a big crusade, shit happens. Redundancy is a good thing.
I think he got surprised by how fast and how completely and "too early" shit hit the fan.
But even with all his shortcomings, especially as a person and leader, the Emperor is imho no fool
storm jungle
Perhaps. But he did Thunderwarriors 1.0, and I would expect him to plan for an e...
And no he did not expect any of this, if he legit was playing 4D Chess he'd have stopped shit like the traitor legions getting trillions of Marines among so many other things
the Emperor is a dumbass
hes not a chosen one
spring cairn
and then you have Angron's legion that's like "bro, a device surgically attached to my brain to cause constant pain sounds awesome"
shell mason
He stopped perty first passion
storm jungle
and then you have Angron's legion that's like "bro, a device surgically attached...
^
shell mason
And he crushed lorgars final church
rose thorn
i wouldn't work with a skaven even if it was forced to help me at gun point tbh
The skaven in question is an outcast from her clan and is loyal enough if paid properly
spring cairn
some HH part should've been left unexplored
shell mason
It's sad really
spring cairn
would've been better than that
stark cargo
Because the thunder warriors were literally unstable psychopaths
The SM are definitely more stable. But given all their daddy issues and Marvel high school drama, I wouldn't consider them based.
shell mason
But what can you expect
storm jungle
The SM are definitely more stable. But given all their daddy issues and Marvel h...
Yeah but still better than Thunder Warriors
again their culling was literally necessary
shell mason
the emperor is still a man after all
storm jungle
they were rabid dogs
or like
dropped dead from heart attacks
because their bodies were a mess
He very much treated them as just first Tier 1 Building RTS units
shell mason
it's sad
storm jungle
Not really
They were all monsters
lmao
He did what was the best prob
and also commended a comet in their honor that circles around Terra once in awhile
arctic talon
also some of the thunder warriors were welcoming their death
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
because life was agony
stark cargo
they were rabid dogs
And Angron and the World Eaters weren't? Or the Night Lords?
storm jungle
they very much were suicidal
shell mason
I dunno, read
I'm so lost rn
storm jungle
And Angron and the World Eaters weren't? Or the Night Lords?
Its not that comparable
arctic talon
were absolutely going to get exterminated
storm jungle
they had an actual purpose even while being loose cannons
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
they just did the most horrrific things ever
storm jungle
The Emperor planning the Heresy is just pure copium
arctic talon
and were allowed to do so
shell mason
Cuz curze sucks
arctic talon
Curze is half the reason the Nightlords turned out the way they did
spring cairn
he has a bad case or primaris traitoris unfortunately
arctic talon
the other half was from their recruiting population
dusk patrol
Yeah with the TW a lot saw the writing on the wall and were grateful to get to go out fighting
storm jungle
Also like another thing.
The Heresy entirely goes against everything he was planning.
Why the fuck would he want it to be happen lol
dusk patrol
Since they had been dying pretty painfully and awfully from organ degradation
storm jungle
This is like a president wishing for an earthquake to destroy his entire country
spring cairn
for his secret plan no one knows about ofc
arctic talon
I think it’s obvious big e knew that some of his sons were gona turn traitor at one point
But I doubt he wanted the HH to happen
dusk patrol
They were warriors from Age of Strife Terra, they weren’t exactly people who ever expected to live long
shell mason
Also like another thing.
The Heresy **entirely goes against everything he was p...
Cuz he gets to sit on a dank ass chair
shell mason
Have fun
dusk patrol
I ain’t putting no gloves on
shell mason
Look up Stark he a solid lad
dusk patrol
stark cargo
Its not that comparable
Perhaps. But I don't see any role for them in peacetime. They were going to become a problem after the great crusade. And I don't think the Emperor to be the person to keep them around for sentimental reasons.
I think that's also why he didn't mind the butchers nails. Made them do their job during the Great Crusade. They didn't have a future anyways.
The Emp imho is a coldblooded calculating bastard with no qualms about disposing of tools that are no longer useful
rocky gale
Perturabo literally strangles his sister for calling him a manchild
Very relatable character tbh
dusk patrol
Perhaps. But I don't see any role for them in peacetime. They were going to beco...
At worst he probably would have used them as terror troops or sent them to die against some big threat
Or they’d just die off themselves
Khan was always probably gonna go off into the fringes once the GC ended
He already did that sorta
A lot of the primarchs had plans post crusade or ideas of what they wanted to do
misty brook
Perhaps. But I don't see any role for them in peacetime. They were going to beco...
Earlier The Emperor made a garden for himself, malacador, and his sons to hang out in the Imperial Palace after the Great Crusade was suppose to be done. Which was to serve as their retirement home. Since he wanted humanity to rule and govern themselves without his guidance.
dusk patrol
Angron also probably would have died by then anyways
Ferrus is also implied to maybe be dying because the Necrodermis bound to his body but it’s not clear
hallow plover
I thought Ferrus wanted to get rid of the necrodermis on his arms once the Great Crusade was over
storm jungle
He had 2 days till retirement 💀
hallow plover
He just had to get ahead and retire early
storm jungle
GOD DAMN IT
hallow plover
Ferrus could come back ||as a chaos Servo Skull||
azure knoll
didn't know sly marbo was an ogryn
the stuff you learn playing darktide
a krieger ogryn, too?
nah what
hallow plover
Everyone can be a krieger
lime venture
bro swapped from space marine to krieger
hallow plover
Just have to loot one and go cosplaying
azure knoll
even the imperial authorities fear sly marbo
they would never correct his dressage or looks
storm jungle
nah what
They explain it away by saying they can get the regimental drip
And remember cosmetics get approved by GW before being added in
azure knoll
i never said anything against krieger ogryns
azure knoll
regimental exchanges probably happen where you're born on say... elysia.. but get moved to fuckin
what's a regiment
other than cadia, catachan and krieg
and mordant
the steel legion
for example
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much the explanation given in lore too
<<< this is literally me after playing ogryn for like a week
storm jungle
Lmfao
arctic talon
40k doesn't have enough cynical quotes smh
azure knoll
how do you mean cynical in this case?
arctic talon
I'm aware
arctic talon
**are you**
yes
misty brook
Has any Space Marine chapter increased their numbers to be legion size yet, Since Gulliman revised the Codex Astartes. Besides the Black Templars of course which are on a eternal crusade against Chaos.
arctic talon
Has any Space Marine chapter increased their numbers to be legion size yet, Sinc...
No one is even close to legion size still, especially with how shit things are tending to go rn
Legion like formations have appeared more frequently
but most chapters can't even maintain the full 1000 rn with attrition rates
rocky gale
Huron Blackheart and the Astral Claws attempted to inflate their ranks which led to the Badab war, think they got to around 5k Marines before the Imperium put a stop to it.
storm jungle
Now they are in almost 30k Legion size according to the lore
which is even more hilarious
rose thorn
Ight so I have the basic chain of events for my AOS campaign set
rocky gale
Why are you using Pathfinder?
rose thorn
My friends like and know pathfinder
rocky gale
Pathfinder stinky
rose thorn
It’s better then dnd
rocky gale
Nuh
rose thorn
Also we are using all the legacy content too
misty brook
I like both systems. Though I can't roll shite to save myself.
rose thorn
Pathfinder isn’t that hard of a conversion to AOS
rose thorn
Yea
arctic talon
adapt anything to anything really
lol
you can run DND5e as a cyberpunk campaign(I do not recomend doing this)
misty brook
adapt anything to anything really
Too bad the Adeptus Mechanicum sees such things as Tech-heresy.
arctic talon
I didn't get shot, I never get shot, I just bodychecked the missile 
dusk patrol
Too bad the Adeptus Mechanicum sees such things as Tech-heresy.
Your ass is gonna have to learn to adapt to the kinetic trauma from my foot.
rose thorn
Tbh like dnd nor pathfinder wouldn’t work in 40k due to how psykers work
dusk patrol
There's easy ways to adjust it tbh.
rose thorn
But AOS magic converts pretty well
rocky gale
you can run DND5e as a cyberpunk campaign(I do not recomend doing this)
If you want a Cyberpunk DND game then you should play Shadowrun (I don't recommend doing this because the Shadowrun ruleset was a complete mess last I checked)
misty brook
Your ass is gonna have to learn to adapt to the kinetic trauma from my foot.
Tech-priests have metal asses though.
arctic talon
If you want a Cyberpunk DND game then you should play Shadowrun (I don't recomme...
I am aware, I have run shadowrun before
(it fucking sucks)
rocky gale
Yea
rocky gale
Damn, now I've remembered Rollplay Mirrorshades
rose thorn
I can’t really say shit about any systems since my favorite is Genesys
rocky gale
Na
rose thorn
Dnd One?
rocky gale
It's basically just an updated for 5th edition
rose thorn
Yeah
rocky gale
They dropped the DND One name I think
rocky gale
It's basically just 5e+
outer wave
Ive only skimmed posts on that
rocky gale
The new PHB can be used as an updated version of the 5e phb, but you can still just use the basic 5e versions
crystal forum
what was the dnd controversy again
rocky gale
Which one?
outer wave
There's a new controversy?
rose thorn
That doesn’t just fuck up loads of homebrew
crystal forum
something about copyright
rose thorn
That was forever ago
crystal forum
did it happen
rose thorn
No
crystal forum
will it happen
rose thorn
No
crystal forum
cool
rose thorn
Oh the new controversy is ai art
outer wave
Oh god
arctic talon
There's really shitty AI art
outer wave
I forgot about that
rose thorn
And they are hiring ai experts
outer wave
They used it for MtG shit too
crystal forum
And they are hiring ai experts
that's a thing?
rose thorn
Yes
outer wave
I recall they used it for a tweet
arctic talon
ew
outer wave
But I dunno if they used it for cards per se
arctic talon
hopefuly never for actual card art
an AI could never replicate my favorite MTG art because its dumb and stupid
rose thorn
Remember when Lego used ai art
arctic talon
smh
crystal forum
is it like experts who can use AI prompts or software engineers
rose thorn
is it like experts who can use AI prompts or software engineers
Both
crystal forum
the fuck
arctic talon
Sinew dancer my beloved
rose thorn
They just force feed ai until it gives them what they want
crystal forum
how is that a job title
arctic talon
AI prompt idiots shouldn't be a job lol
I can get people who code the shit
but why the hell is that a job 💀
rose thorn
They code train and prompt it which isn’t bad I guess
A new game said they are using ai to make its software so that game is gonna fuckin suck
If I could remember what it was
arctic talon
AI for coding is fine as long as its supplemental
you need to write the fucking code first lol
misty brook
Sinew dancer my beloved
Too bad they sealed off New Phyrexia. But there's always a chance new Phreyxian species can pop up from the Planes which Karn dropped the oil in.
rose thorn
AI for coding is *fine* as long as its supplemental
Yeha but they said the entire game is gonna be build of ai
crystal forum
A new game said they are using ai to make its software so that game is gonna fuc...
lmao all software engineers i know already do that. it's literally nothing to brag about
you just use AI to do very basic code
storm jungle
its even more hilarious since even companies like GW whos been hiring freelancers artists since the 90's pay them shit lol
im surprised they havent done it yet either
arctic talon
Too bad they sealed off New Phyrexia. But there's always a chance new Phreyxian ...
Phyrexians in general look great tbh
I love white/red/black phyrexians the most
Blue and Green a little boring to me
rose thorn
im surprised they havent done it yet either
To be fair ai fucking sucks at making space marines
storm jungle
actually good point
40k is too unique aesthetic wise for AI unless its like gothic scenery
outer wave
im surprised they havent done it yet either
Considering they're sort of behind in terms of trends (they got onto that Starcraft 2 Marine animation thing like 10 years after), doesnt surprise me
arctic talon
mmmmm White phyrexians
crystal forum
To be fair ai fucking sucks at making space marines
heheheh those female custodes ragebait video thumbnails
outer wave
mmmmm White phyrexians
Me in winter
arctic talon
lol
storm jungle
unrelated video guys i swear
misty brook
Blue and Green a little boring to me
They're suppose to be machine, yet they still have flesh which is funny to me. Since the white ones looked flayed alive.
azure knoll
very unrelated dilara we get it
rose thorn
I think the fact that 40k’s art art style is so terrible and illogical (lovingly) ai probably wouldn’t work
outer wave
3
azure knoll
very fair wtf is that take
arctic talon
They're suppose to be machine, yet they still have flesh which is funny to me. S...
Tbf not much metal to work with on New Phyrexia lol
outer wave
Whoops
azure knoll
rose thorn
4
outer wave
FOUR!
storm jungle
NOOO
river walrus
After 4
azure knoll
I CAN ONLY COUNT TO 4
misty brook
azure knoll
I CAN ONLY COUNT TO FOUR
storm jungle
I think the fact that 40k’s art art style is so terrible and illogical (lovingly...
Also yeah its hard for AI to capture
azure knoll
I CAN ONLY COUNT TO
azure knoll
FOOOUUUUURRRRR
outer wave
Jinn cranks his hog to the number four
azure knoll
yes cranking the hog reference
rose thorn
you can see some prompts fans made online
AOS is luckily in the same boat, mainly out of necessity
storm jungle
🙏
rose thorn
Old world tho
arctic talon
They're suppose to be machine, yet they still have flesh which is funny to me. S...
Also why does Elesh Norn have breasts, same with Sheoldred
rose thorn
With all 6 people working on it
azure knoll
women before compleation?
storm jungle
~~Also why does Elesh Norn have breasts, same with Sheoldred~~
Sex sells
rose thorn
~~Also why does Elesh Norn have breasts, same with Sheoldred~~
I thought hat said flesh eaters
arctic talon
women before compleation?
Were the praetors not created?
I might be wrong I don't know MTG lore well
misty brook
~~Also why does Elesh Norn have breasts, same with Sheoldred~~
Phyrexians do snu snu still too, lol
storm jungle
The fleshussy is strong
arctic talon
lol
azure knoll
rule of cool
arctic talon
Phyrexian God™️
dusk patrol
Praetors aren't made, they're born.
His momma had high hopes for him.
Praetor Praetor
arctic talon
my goat
azure knoll
one could say the praetors embody aspects of the colors of mana they represent
what with jin-gitaxias resembling a hunched-over old-ass scholar
arctic talon
I feel like the phyrexians embody the colors they represent like completely devoid of any morals
or ethics
arctic talon
what with jin-gitaxias resembling a hunched-over old-ass scholar
oh thats a good point
misty brook
Doesn't help me that every White Phyrexian have sharp teeth and spilt tongues too.
azure knoll
and black and white often being the colors of rulers
misty brook
and black and white often being the colors of rulers
Black will always be the ruler to me at heart.
azure knoll
and rulers are made to look good so followers follow them
yadda yadda human psychology, why fascists gravitate towards attractive people and say unattractive people are evil...
arctic talon
prolly one of my favorite black phyrexian arts
river walrus
Ulgo aint fascite hes handsome
arctic talon
Urabrask is just
azure knoll
and urabrask looking like fire
azure knoll
misty brook
I call him a Drake.
azure knoll
i really want to be a red player but i cannot bring myself to win through lightning strikes and fucking goblins
azure knoll
I call him a Drake.
they not like us
arctic talon
Red has a lot of great themes
misty brook
I'm just wondering how White Phyrexians see with the white crest crowns heads they have.
arctic talon
I'd assume they have other sensory organs
tbh
also some white phyrexians do have eyes
or I guess "eyes"
azure knoll
sheoldred also doesn't have eyes in many artworks
arctic talon
azure knoll
urabrask is literally just the metal portion of phyrexians because everything else of his has been burned away
arctic talon
Urabrask is also the only one of the praetors who isn't comically evil lol
azure knoll
which is funny, for a red mana entity
river walrus
Ulgo canonicly took a bolter shot to the head but the bullet was badly made and he survived.
arctic talon
which is funny, for a red mana entity
tbf him believing in freedom of choice does not contradict him being red
azure knoll
i dunno when i see red i imagine literally angron in all his forms
arctic talon
I mean he is angron still lol
azure knoll
his actual form or his angry form
arctic talon
Red also involves things like constantly creating things tbf
azure knoll
which is just emotion, raw and directionless
misty brook
Just wondering, but do you two have any favorite Planeswalkers?
arctic talon
also isn't Urasbrask like the only phyrexian praetor still alive lol
he just got all 4 of his limbs torn off
azure knoll
no clue not that deep into the lore
azure knoll
Just wondering, but do you two have any favorite Planeswalkers?
sorin, oddly enough
misty brook
he just got all 4 of his limbs torn off
Funny Phyrexians don't die. They just get recycled.
misty brook
sorin, oddly enough
He a big mood.
arctic talon
Just wondering, but do you two have any favorite Planeswalkers?
I'm not that into lore, but I like Tamiyo's art + cards
azure knoll
need to play some commander again jesus
misty brook
I'm not that into lore, but I like Tamiyo's art + cards
Good choice. She likes to collect knowledge from everywhere, but stories most of all. Her magic revolves around stories. Her people like live in clouds from where she lives in.
arctic talon
isn't she also like dead now 💀
I heard people at an LGS talking about that lol
yeah if the MTG wiki is correct she's died
misty brook
I heard people at an LGS talking about that lol
Yes. But a literal simulacrum lives on in her stead.
arctic talon
neat
arctic talon
Does MTG not kill characters off permanently lol
Actually why am I asking that
WOTC are hacks
At least for DnD a lot of the time lol
misty brook
My favorite planeswalker is Nahiri.
green loom
I'm calling the Pinkertons
arctic talon
I could never like a company which never kills its money making characters off
LOL
I never said I disliked WOTC over their writing for DnD
I dislike WOTC for a lot of other reasons
shell mason
I'm calling the Pinkertons
shut up
get it right and call the inquisition
Just got demon souls on sale and now dragons dogma 2 is on sale
fuck
rose thorn
looking at this new warhame called quar
and its a ww2 styel wargame but they foinally fixed the issue
nazis
they are all instead these worm peopel
dressed in ww2 stuff
looks good and i heard good things baout it
but besides the worm poeple things it kinda lacks an idenitity
outer wave
Holy shit new 40k race...
outer wave
More worms...
rose thorn
ye athey are all wromns
misty brook
I thought they were birds for a second.
rose thorn
here are the two new factions
shell mason
the hell are those?
rose thorn
quars
Quar
It seems the Quar have always been at war. When the first wandering clans of insect gatherers built their low, mud-walled buildings, it was as much to keep out other Quar as the wild animals. As they first learned to make tools to get food, they quickly learned to make tools to defend themselves. The mud walls quickly became fortified citadels, and then city-states. In five thousand years of civilization, the only constants of their culture have been the changing of the seasons and the threat of war.
here is the trailer for the game
its pretty fucking funny tbhj
i guess its ww1 more like
idk how long the joke of 'horrific warfare doen by lemings' can carry an idea of a game
rose thorn
the anatgonist atm is tzeentch for my campaign i just need a way to make and introduce a godo tzeentch bbeg the biggest book press compnay in Ghyran was infultrated by tzeentch and basically been lasing books with tzeentch bullshit tldr
arctic talon
Evil books
wraith quartz
Hey, sidenote: Militarum regiments are basically a swiss army knife, soooo amongst the regiments which ones are like
celest dome
Could you ask the question again, but with words
wintry scarab
Once a marine goes back from the deathwatch to his home chapter, he gets to keep the deathwatch left arm right?
dusk patrol
Some also just keep a symbol on their armor to represent their time
Ventris you can see he has the “I” on his left leg.
plush mason
i mean, when have the space marines not been :P
queen laurel
i mean, when have the space marines not been :P
When they were killing civilians?
plush mason
true
dusk patrol
When they were killing civilians?
Idk some are pretty jolly and gay doing that
Also man, I hope the SM2 game is good. The effects and feel of stuff based off the trailers is so sick.
The power fist and thunder hammer stuff in particular.
queen laurel
Idk some are pretty jolly and gay doing that
You ain't wrong with that
But on another note i really hope i can use a power fist with the bulwark class
It's a 100 weapon i'm pretty sure i can use a shield while punching something
dusk patrol
Heh
queen laurel
If not oh well
queen laurel
A power sword is good at slicing stuff
dusk patrol
Power fish
queen laurel
Yeah it's a very funny
dusk patrol
It's a 100 weapon i'm pretty sure i can use a shield while punching something
There are some examples of this so
Hopefully
queen laurel
Nice
queen laurel
Okay that is sick
dusk patrol
He was able to look Guilliman in the eye to give an idea
queen laurel
It seems the bulwark will be limited to one handed weapons anyway
queen laurel
Isn't this like the marine who was told by his captain to stop working out because he became too jack and refitting his armor became too annoying
I think i'm mixing up another one
dusk patrol
Different guy
Opposite issue
He was super short, like 6’5” or something
But super built and wide
thorn zenith
im curious, are powerfists actually able to manipulate their fingers to grab something or are they just for punching
dusk patrol
They function as hand s
Not very dexterous but
They often use them to rip stuff open and all that
queen laurel
But super built and wide
Yeah that one what was his name again
dusk patrol
Maximon Voss
queen laurel
Yeah that's the one
vapid stone
ahh, so they ARE functional
they're not able to use stuff like weapons though
fleet parcel
Also man, I hope the SM2 game is good. The effects and feel of stuff based off t...
saber interactive
storm jungle
Also man, I hope the SM2 game is good. The effects and feel of stuff based off t...
Not exactly "horrible" news
but a bit of a "bruh moment"
fleet parcel
this is amazing news, meaning they actually polishing the game. but then i remember is saber interactive 
fleet parcel
evil dead got like 3 content updates and then they said "we're done here" xd
spring cairn
yeah but it's evil dead
with warhammer they have incentive to keep dev-ing the game
aka acess to the fanbase's wallet
you can't milk evil dead fans like wh fans
hallow saddle
yeah, this game will sell
fleet parcel
wwz gets an update every leap year, yeah somehow they are slower than fatshark
spring cairn
I was already suspicious but cancelling the beta makes me even more cautious
funny feeling that game's going to launch in more than a "shit" state
storm jungle
The game is probably gonna be "good" at worst, im not super sure how they could fuck up a game this simple
fleet parcel
you can't milk evil dead fans like wh fans
while not like 40k, you can def milk evil dead
spring cairn
Could be extremely easy with a shallow gameplay, the pvp could also be a flop and the pve launch with 2 missions
and also the dreaded optimisation
dusk patrol
wwz gets an update every leap year, yeah somehow they are slower than fatshark
The content update wasn’t amazing but the tech was insane for a horde shooter
The gameplay was solid too
celest dome
Either PvP or PvE will be forgotten upon release
fleet parcel
evil dead sucked pvp wise, and wwz pvp is like the worst thing i have ever played, so yeah
dusk patrol
It’s mostly why I’m confident the PvE element will be good
celest dome
Always the case
fleet parcel
The content update wasn’t amazing but the tech was insane for a horde shooter
the tech was indeed insane, i agree with that. but they couldve done so much more
storm jungle
Yeah PvE is generally impossible to fuck up.
Its mostly just gonna be boring after a few months but it should be fun still.
storm jungle
Im trying to be optimistic you dickhead 😩
dusk patrol
They’ve jsut shown they can make a good PvE horde game with basic mechanics already and a lower budget
storm jungle
fleet parcel
xd
spring cairn
aslong as the average casool get their power fantasy
dusk patrol
Hopefully that will translate better to 40k
Especially if they add other horde factions later on
spring cairn
i just hope there's an actual challenging option
fleet parcel
pvp of course
spring cairn
in pve
fleet parcel
ranked competitive pvp
storm jungle
i just hope there's an actual challenging option
I dont expect much beyond "you die instantly"
dusk patrol
WWZ had some very difficult PvE which was fun so
We’ll see but they’ve shown they can do it at least
fleet parcel
I dont expect much beyond "you die instantly"
i used to fall thru the floor in wwz and die instantly does that count
dusk patrol
Yeah my main concern is just jank and bugs which I can’t shoot with a bolter
fleet parcel
to this day, after years of release wwz still struggle with server problems
spring cairn
ppl still play it ?
fleet parcel
yall thinkg darktide is bad? just you wait
storm jungle
Darktide wasnt that bad
dusk patrol
Nah Darktide was way worse
storm jungle
comparing it to WWZ is wild
fleet parcel
ppl still play it ?
oh absolutely, its still a fun game regardless of all the bad
storm jungle
Nah Darktide was way worse
fleet parcel
im talking serverweise
storm jungle
mfers acting like it was CP2077 on launch
storm jungle
im talking serverweise
Unfortunately what you get with an indie studio 💀
fleet parcel
Unfortunately what you get with an indie studio 💀
yeah like blizzard
storm jungle
since they are prob spread across 3 games
storm jungle
yeah like blizzard
Breast milk theft 💀
fallen stump
since they are prob spread across 3 games
What’s the other one??
Vermintide and dark tide
fleet parcel
both vermintide
storm jungle
What’s the other one??
Untitled project
fleet parcel
xd
dusk patrol
I wouldn’t really call Biggest Loser Carnivorous Sealife an indie studio but
storm jungle
I wouldn’t really call Biggest Loser Carnivorous Sealife an indie studio but
180 is really not that big
celest dome
Not exactly, there are 180 people, not Devs (so counting HR and such)
We know that atm the Dev size of the DT team is bigger than the 2 other teams
dusk patrol
More like, mid tier.
fleet parcel
obviously the untitled project is darktide vs mode
spring cairn
warhammer 30k tide game were you play as a space marine battling hordes of space marines
celest dome
I wouldn’t really call Biggest Loser Carnivorous Sealife an indie studio but
They are by definition
storm jungle
warhammer 30k tide game were you play as a space marine battling hordes of space...
Falling asleep speedrun
fleet parcel
horus final boss
dusk patrol
warhammer 30k tide game were you play as a space marine battling hordes of space...
So named character vs Night Lords and Word Bearers?
celest dome
obviously the untitled project is darktide vs mode
That would be part of the DT team, like how the VT2 Versus project
fleet parcel
not if its in the a separate version
storm jungle
Also yeah like the problem is people assume FS are a massive studio because titles like darktide are extremely ambitious, they do a lot of things wrong as much as right
fleet parcel
god i cant type today
storm jungle
im pretty sure almost the entire tide fandom doesnt even know how small FS is as a studio
so like lol
spring cairn
they do like to say dt is their biggest team tho
dusk patrol
I don’t have super high hopes for the versus mode but I’m glad they’re trying at least
storm jungle
I mean kinda
dusk patrol
I’d like a chaos wastes deal for Darktide
storm jungle
We'll get it at some point
fleet parcel
im pretty sure almost the entire tide fandom doesnt even know how small FS is as...
they hear 40k and immediately assume is something big
storm jungle
pretty much
spring cairn
I just want a new zone on a ship
fallen stump
warhammer 30k tide game were you play as a space marine battling hordes of space...
Let’s have them try a space hulk game
fleet parcel
I just want a new zone on a ship
mourninstar raid, like pd2
fallen stump
Space hulk 2 electric boogaloo
celest dome
I don’t have super high hopes for the versus mode but I’m glad they’re trying at...
It was fun
dusk patrol
When are we gonna be able to romance Brahms and Hadron?
spring cairn
how long until the new zone gets a second map you reckon
storm jungle
Probably awhile
fleet parcel
When are we gonna be able to romance Brahms and Hadron?
datingtide
storm jungle
crafting is our current focus as testers atm
spring cairn
it's kinda sad it didn't got the carnival treatment
dusk patrol
Crafting is definitely the biggest reason I stopped playing
The new changes look good though
celest dome
Let’s have them try a space hulk game
I'd rather they never touch SM, much less Terminator due to them being too static.
Eldar and Orks would be the best possible cast for future games
dusk patrol
Eldar fans coping they’re gonna get a game still?
storm jungle
Lmao stfu
fallen stump
I'd rather they never touch SM, much less Terminator due to them being too stati...
Ork shoota
spring cairn
3 taus and a kroot for next tide game
celest dome
Otherwise, higher Imp, Tech Adept, SM, Sister and Primaris Psyker
fallen stump
3 taus and a kroot for next tide game
Another fire warrior game
dusk patrol
I think a Blackstone fortress game would be cool
storm jungle
faceless enemies work better for horde-shooter games in 40k
fallen stump
Honestly hear me out
storm jungle
orks, nids, chaos cults