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I didn't know that
Hmmm
A high ranking inquisitor?
yeah prolly
I think If I was born in the Warhammer 40K Universe, I'd like to be a Grey Knight
I'm pretty lucky when it comes to lucky draws yo
i dont think you get to choose that
Me when a Krieger comes up to me
I might actually make it
Buddy
Do you know the recruitment process of a grey knight
Idk they give you a grey/white space Marine Armor?
Read it
Trust me it's not pretty
psyker AND space marine
Yeah every single space marine gray night is a psyker
And they also memory wipe you by the way
AND can resist chaos
They will turn you into a f****** weapon and you will like it
AND doesnt die immediately
Tbf thats just space marine protocol
Still fucked but yeah
That doesn't make it any better mob psycho
says the ork
WE'RE STILL DOING THIS?!
I find it funny
Just to be clear, Psykers are 1 in a million and they feed 10,000 of those fuckers to the God Emperor Furnace Thing each day?
And so i will say it
Thats fair
the good ones are rare
@wraith quartz acolytes are anyone who works for an inquisitor, explicators are the most trusted acolytes, and interrogators are inquisitors in training
We're dealing with quadrillions of people(at least)
the Imperium also at least has a million worlds
Ohk
"Good" ones?
every human is psychic to some level except nulls
No they arent
as in powerful
screw you dilara
Most base humans arent psychic
Your general shot your best friend because he was a coward for suggesting something reasonable
Numbers in warhammer should be taken with a grain of salt. They don't make sense most of the time
recruited by the Dark angels
yeah and he deserved it probably
or a sucessor
They got them cool guns
then you need to survive until you're a veteran
He just suggested tactical retreating for a better shot
You f****** numpty
Most Humans aren’t psychic, but have a small amount of psyonic energy, enough to register in the warp but not enough for literally anything else
Yeah the psychic stuff has a chart for this reason
if the comissar shoots him then he's probably wrong
Its enough that they can be possessed and such by choas
you go from having no psychic presence to having some and being considered "lucky" to having straight up magic powers
tbh the quadrillions of people on terra number given makes sense
Hence why Tau arent typically favored by Chaos
it would make sense to say the imperium has quadrillions of people in it
all humans except nulls have a psychic presence in the warp though
Numbers in 40k
having a soul does not make you psychic
all living beings minus nulls have one
Holy fuck that compressed horribly
Lol
people who are completely null give off uncanny valley effect to other humans, they’re deemed as “soulless”
no powers but still receptive to psychic stuff
yes?
like they can feel nulls
thats like saying "since you exist you can get shot"
this is true and im right
So you are telling me, Nulls are the true Bane of Chaos Gods?
Chapter Master really needs another fork
What is Anti-Warp tech?
they're the banes of writers
Blackstone, google it
Nulls wearing black stone armor
Technology designed to deal with the warp
also blackstone goes both ways
Nulls can be overcome I think
its not just anti psyker stuff
How useful would it be to have Nulls on your Voidship?
It can be psyker boosting stuf
Ex: big E and the SoS
specifically because of warp jumping
Very f****** useful
very useful if you can find one
very useful
I figured
You can basically send a lot of the demonic threats to the warp immediately
good luck getting one though
Its the same rule with things like Vampire the Masquerade.
"Oh no im a vampire and you are holding a cross at me and im weak! Also I can just shoot you with this gun in my hand."
By just throwing a poor motherfucker at someone
a null bodyguard is like denying any chaos trickery on you
When the blank accidentally passes too close to the Navigator's Sanctum
Why do you think Cain got so lucky most of the time
i thought you said scrotum for a second
Jurgen is his smelly personal anti warp shield
You can't cancel the effect of a bolter shell to the face
^
Also bad
this is something wizards in fiction forget a lot
i thought demons dont even see nulls
blow someones stupid face off
They see an absence in the shape of a human
thats absolutely horrid
and gives off terrible vibes
Doom Guy is living proof of the concept that if you use enough bullets and rockets and plasma guns, the problem will be solved
But I think theres some Faith shenanigans coming with the Pariah Nexus
check out kaldor draigo
he's basically doom guy
Lol
My girl Stern coming out and praying the necron tech magic away
He did my boy Morty dirty (twice)
TO A CHAOS CHAMPION
Kaldor and 4 (+ another 4) grey knights fighting Morty in the garden of nurgle
Are we talking about the video game
what video game
Chaos Gate
is there a video game with kaldor
Yes
i need to play this
he shows up in Chaos Gate
The Morbus
i love OP characters
t h e m o r b u s
Yet another Moty L
the morbus
what about The Morbus
Nurgle daemons are cutie patooties
they all just wanna have fun
"Please papa nurgle may I have eternal bliss 🥺 "
"Best I can do is sepsis and OCD"
I will absolutely vanquish the joy out of slaneesh and beat the Living Daylight out of Nurgle
If I believe strongly enough, I am Kaldor Dreigo
"I believe I can fly"
Which chaos god do you think likes cats the most
None
Wait a minute
Guys
I have a theory ...
What if the true Chaos Gods are actually Orange Cats
I think cats appeal to all of them
slaanesh because they're fucking evil but pretend to be nice
Hidden within the Deeper Warp
Not Khorne
He prefer Dogs
They're mindless killers for khorne, they projectile vomit when nothing is wrong for nurgle, they're ineffable and vaguely malicious for tzeentch, and they're cats for slaanesh
Not Tzeentch, he prefer birbs
Yeah cats would drive his daemons to near extinction once they enter the ecosystem
Lol
Because birds IRL have a lot to do with prophecy and magic and such
especially in a lot of myths
you fucking DUMBA-
Tzeentch is literally named after a parrot some GW guy met on vacation
no
💀
you're making that up
The actual backstory of the name is even funnier
it was literally just "What random word sounds good as a magic spell you would shout when casting"
lol
Tbf it does sound like a cool wizard spell
Nurgle was just Nergal an actual south american plague god, Khorne was a modified version of Crom from Conan the Barbarian, etc
it makes me want to spit while saying it
I'm not but it's probably more of a rumor than a fact
Its not true so no
Nergal is Mesopotamian/Assyrian IIRC
yep that one
Also the 4 chaos gods are the 4 elements and Tzeentch is air
Yes?
Yes of course!
dont forget malice
He's literally called "The Inconstant Air" in fantasy
Is Khorne Earth or fire ?
Is Slaanesh water cause crabs ?
He's associated closely to the winds of magic as well, and generally wind for the Norscan tribes
bruh
Malice is a fucking puny weakling
Crabs because water. Water is traditionally the most emotional element, hence Slaanesh
who only took 11 sacrifices to manifest in real space
fucks sake Belakor is stronger lol
Nurgle is Earth because he's stagnation and decay and Earth is both the most stable element and that which everything returns to when it decays
Khorne is fire because angy
Malice exists in 40k
he is in a single short story
does he do anything though
Earth is also most associated with nature, and Nurgle is just a nature god in essence
And I am gay
He's a tree boy
he gets his ass beaten by grey knights and marines
And you are gay
they're not associated with him anymore
Give us more lore on The Raptor god GW
Huh so thats what The Fifth Element was about....
Yes they are. they're the ones who brought him to real space
You know what else is Canon? The asian mom's slipper
not anymore. they're in the cadia stands book and they worship some other bullshit
they got retconned
Guh
malal doesnt exist
Malice exists
Age of Sigmar has the five elements that Plato wrote about when he realized there was something more transcendent than the 4 "gross" elements: Earth, Fire, Air, Water, and Rats
they might have just jumped ship
on Malice tbh
since they literally summoned him to real space
and he got his ass beaten
retcon
that isn't a retcon
Its not rats
just because they switched to someone else
Everyone knows the fifth element is cheese
he literally contributes nothing to the setting
to worship
Sure he does
He contributes a lot of dumbasses on Reddit spouting about him like he ever has mattered
Guys, is Warhammer 40K a parody of Religious Dogmatism in the real Human world? Because everyone worships someone and they are ready to beat the living daylights out of someone who doesn't believe in the same guy as them, is this foreshadowing guys? Chat is this real?
Doesn't Malice get referenced in one of the 30k books when it has a diagram of the 8 powers in the warp?
not directly
Like Rylanor and the Angel and Clonegrim and FUUUCCCKKK
Malices most recent lore isn't old
also what the fuck do the sons of malice worship
in Fall of Cadia
just general chaos
Hatred
i literally finished the audiobook recently
Either way Malice is still canon
With the confirmed powers added on in this chart
he got summoned to real space
and then banished
if I were the sons of malice
I'd stop worshipping him too

Just saying
More like Sons of a Lil Bitch
this is so open to interpretation that i shit myself
Their most recent mention
thanks now i need new pants
of Malice is in 2010
nvm
either way I don't see why The Sons of Malice worshipping someone new
Maybe if you fixed your yee yee ass paint scheme you’d get some bitches on your warband
makes Malice non canon
But yeah Malice is still canon but he's more like Vashtorr and Belakor than another chaos god
HOW do i paint this
With paints
like what the fuck is this cow shit
And brushes
Also your hands
False
Malice the Moo Cow
He doesn’t do shit
Why are we arguing about Malice being canon again?
They do shit
mf's looking like the star trek episode about racism
He is canon he's just worthless
Most subtle Roddenberry political commentary
Just like all of us
Eternal you're literally the guy that dislikes X-Men, you are the last person to comment on anything political
I'm sorry that was rude
no it was correct
i was going to say ted cruz
lol
Lol
I don’t dislike X-men
Well, depending on the storyline

To be fair thats any comic run
Pretty wide breadth there
dont shoot yourself dilara i need all your money
BRUH
oh right
also who doesnt love "[Character] kills the Marvel Universe"
I dislike x-men because if there was a person with a gene who could control my mind and/or fires death lasers uncontrollably I'd probably also be racist about it
christ lol
universe 949198 be like
then they have to raise the stakes by saying they'll kill all the universes
like brother WHAT DOES INFINITY MEAN
X-Men sort of accidentally justifies racism.
huh
Within the universe, I mean
Even thats debatable
Not in real life
It really does, that's my point. Being afraid and hateful of mutants makes sense, real racism doesn't. You can't introduce actually dangerous people and make it a racial allegory.
No it doesnt
what do harmless mutants have done that deserve prosecution then lol
i swear if hestia asks to touch me once more
They literally accidentally kill people all the time
Idk I don’t think they’ve done “Christ kills the Marvel Universe” yet
That is a good idea though
So do humans though? 
Have Ennis do it
Pls no
For maximum edge
if thor can be a superhero why not jesus
Thing is, there's no real way to tell if a mutant who has dangerous abilities will decide to use them or not. Until they do.
Okay but this applies to people too
is there gona be a stupid sex joke every couple of pannels?
wait no
I am beyond this now, I will only play one game from now on, "I am Jesus Christ"
wrong writer
Also Jesus will be a drug addicted hitman stripper
Marvel is literally filled with supervillains who arent mutants who do worldwide extinction events
💀
NOOOOOOO
also genuine question
Bruh
do you not see the irony in what you're saying
how the fuck do people know the difference between mutants and other super heros
in universe
They dont
Average nazi moment 💀
Most perfect Xmen bits is Rogue saying that "they can cure us"
Only for Storm to say "There is nothing to cure, we're perfect"

Mutants have powers specifically because of the X-gene. Other people may have supernatural or gained powers
^
okay but how does a normal person know that

they dont
"Storm I kill anyone I touch"
okay like
Thats Rogue
Also have Xavier never use his powers to the extent he should be able to
also its literally why she covers herself up lol
so you know, that she doesnt hurt anyone

Wheres the mutant whose good at removing hats?
Of course, implementation of draconian policy pushes mutants to rebel, which justifies the fears. It's a bad allegory.
Jsut need him and Xavier to beat Magneto
Its really not
Actually that does happen in a run of Spiderman
Where Mutant are the superior faction and at some point it's found that SM isn't one and has a big problem, having to go in hiding and stuff
XMen will always remain relevant because humans are territorial assholes

we always find osme reason to hate people we dont like
its really not that complex
Also Storm literally runs a fascist ethnostate
people treating other races like being intrinsically violent is like racism 101 i dont understand what's the weird thing here
No???
The difference is Doom is based and funny so it’s ok
And the U.S Government creates Sentinels and they wipe out humanity. We can cherrypick all day here lol
Sure but the things that make humans hate other humans, like race and whatnot, aren't at all reasonable.
Doom needs no mention. He is Doom.

I love humans, always finding a reason to de-head their neighbour
but they justify it with bullshit reasons to make themselves feel better. it's the entirety of what racist science was about back in the day
^
Being worried that a kid who just hit puberty might accidentally kill everyone in his town is reasonable.
Fool
Jesses, what in the fuck are y'all talking about
Seeing how they treated "harmless" mutants...
Things like Genosha also prove even when mutants do nothing people still want to exterminate them.
lmao
and yeah it's fucking marvel of course it wont be perfect social commentary
Yeah but that's pure nonsense. As is racism in general.
Tbf their name alone is reason to genocide them
The issue is that marvel mutants are inherently dangerous, unlike any real world demographic, and that's why it's a bad metaphor
What if they mutate further
So are humans, and so are any other super individual
your argument makes no sense
Super Sentinels
Yeah like i said before, Sentinels literally wipe out humanity lol
because "they" make mutants too
Yup just fear of the different.
In other news, I was supposed to play a Vampire the Masquarade one shot but it had to be cancelled last minute 
Guys, let's make a new world where no one gets any rights
if racism was super obvious to everybody then nobody would be racist
Idk I'm a Moon Knight fan anyway and the official line about Moon Knight is that he belongs in prison lmao
Lmao

Ok but what if we made sentinels this time without dumbass programming
Bruh
Never trust robots
Damn I enjoyed Moon Knight in Marvel Alliance....
Then they wouldn't kill the Mutants 
I think he works better if he's self contained but damn... also every interaction with Spiderman is great
Idk I could convince them
I do love how in a deleted scene in Days of Future past Nixon has a guy tell him Trask was planning to sell sentinel tech to other countries and he instantly has him arrested lmfao
"Said Dilara as she instructed her roomba to go clean the kitchen floor"
most realistic U.S politician
Lol
He literally goes "Nah these mutants sound useful, we gotta work with them."
he has that CIA grindset
I work with machinery and automation
I fear them, but at the same time, as long as we have ways to make them dependent on energy
Should be alright
Right and the best way to combat racism is to show those people that the differences don't actually mean anything. That becomes immeasurably more difficult when those differences are actual magical powers.
nixon based?
Work with them ❌
Weaponize them ✅
guy literally created the trend of americans calling every scandal a gate
STOP CALLING EVERYTHING GATE
I literally know nothing about Nixon aside from him being a crook and being n Blacks Ops Zombies
not the worst resume
He's really known in america for being a crook and comedically sweaty
Aye, for historical examples the way France and Germany became friend after WW2 had a big pivot point where the French president decided to take the German Chancelor's hand during a commemoration, which was quite surprising for the time
Like he was a moist man
he hated gay people and did vietnam war stuff and then watergate
Is he still alive? Is he still moist?
I was recently watching a bollywood movie about two Indian army soldiers trying to flop the plan of a guy who wants to create super soldiers without a conscience to be controlled by war generals
It was the most ridiculous shit ever
You can make any Bollywood movie plot into a 40k book
not even a joke
"Sir lets make our spear and shieldmen form into balls and launch them with catapults at the enemy"
Lmao
God that movie was wild
Bahubali the Conclusion
Yeh
That movie was wild
oldest live president is motherfucking peanut guy
pushing 100
Jimmy Carter is the nail that pins time to space and the Lords in Black will not allow him to die lest all comes unbound
No, it's Ryan Reynolds
Literally at death's door
The real most unrealistic plot point of x men is that Mystique somehow found time to have like fifty billion fucking kids with everyone and their mom
Come to think of it so many x men have so many goddamn illegitimate kids
bro jimmy carter's kids are in their mid 70's
I was about to say something, now I won't
like what the fuck
I'm a God Emperor fearing man
Considering what had just went down, that is fairly spectacular.
^ damn it, it didn't reply like I wanted it to
guy's a raisin
fucking kill me when and if i reach 75
Ok
oh wait nvm he in hospice care and basically almost dead
Probably
yup probably a news headline soon
That happens like every 5 years
World shocked as 99 year old man dies
He's been having miraculous recoveries basically my entire life
Lmao
I'm convinced they're sacrificing goats to extend his life or something
just special that he's still alive
and at least he's not one of the hated presidents
Ever wonder why there’s a huge unicorn shortage?
one of our prime ministers died a couple months ago
Well, maybe not to people who weren’t alive when he was in office
idk he still ranks as one of the least hated presidents
I heard one time he unhinged his jaws like a snake and swallowed up an entire family
What
spin the wheel for which US war
I also like to watch the footage of when he was campaigning in Wisconsin and every step split the earth, leaving a gaping fissure behind him
Very few presidents weren’t
oh he supported the khmer rouge
didnt mean to reply
but he did that
which is womp womp
oh shit he was president during the soviet Afghan war
He also has my favorite presidential quote
"Who will pray for you? Is this the eternal dark without a dawn?"
oh right he was also the first openly religious president
Mostly his “popularity” these days is mostly from people who weren’t alive when he was in office
And mostly from the platitudes he said
And not what he did
Sure you can
Elect me
I’ll make the trains run on time, the rivers flow with chocolate and children will dance in the fields with adorable bunnies and deer
Also the other guy said you guys are dorks
That election cycle was wild.
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and then reagan killed the world, the end
Who won that one, again?
the former actor
Anyway go watch Monument Mythos for political horror comedy
nah
i preferred it when it was like 5 people watching those videos
fucking wild what my youtube recommendations are
YES im a hipster and YES i hate everything
I know about monument mythos but have never actually looked into it
you have no idea how weird it is to be recommended a video of that stuff out of nowehre
with like 5k views
No I am fairly certain I do
since you've never watched any
you'll have the same experience i had
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-Footage from the 2003 event may trigger seizures in people with photosensitive epilepsy.
-Includes a newly restored clip from Washington Standard Operation. Film damage is no longer visible.
-The 20th Washington Absentee has been identified.
this on your recommendations after coming back from work
5k views
Its good soup
never heard of it before
fucking terrifying
i dont think i smoked weed back then but it made me feel like i was tripping
It's like how people say "going by the title, I assume Ben Drowned"
"I have no way to describe to you what happened to Ben"
like most horror it gets 10000x better if you have no idea what you're getting into
which is why i both love and dislike ARG essay channels
it's good that artists get attention but like it ruins the mystery when a guy explains it to you
Who's ben
Not me watching the horror musicals 😭
anyways praise the youtube algorithm and i hope it recommends me more obscure stuff
most of the stuff i get is amateur but eventually it'll pay off
It starts good but gets super shit post season 1
and like entirely leans into shitposting
lmao
yeah it's the point when it got popular
i dont know why i always try to sound nicer, i fucking hate casuals
LOL
yeah idk what the creator was even thinking ngl
like the first season is great because its like hellboy-tier paranormal shit
then it just goes full wacky
idk alexkansas seems like an actual artist which is rare among horror creators
but i really do hate soft horror
if kids like your horror series then you've fucked up
if you're not permanently scarring them with nightmares then what are you even doing
like mandela catalog
which is the former
May I suggest Invocations and Malediction
what are those
40k hhas a horror franchise those are imo the better books
Uh can't answer for sure sorry I buy most of the hardcover stuff from amazon within a couple weeks of it been available. Last I checked they weren't too hard to find but it's not like the heresy series where you find em everywhere
warhammer crime is not something that should exist and yet it makes perfect sense
gotta love when writers try something different
Warhammer Noir would be quite fun
You might be in luck, there is a series of the crime books (will have to find) basically an arbites hunting down a crim empire that get's some chaos fuckery involved. It's uhhh brutal....
Sorry not much of the horror series get's audiobooked. Pretty much only the bigger novellas now or the content from the main writers like ADB, Abnett etc
Also don't think the ones that are have Johnathan Keeble
i'd listen to an AI voice. i have no standards
i just want something to listen to in the car
it soothes my road rage
I mean a cop novel about arbitrators trying to take down a non chaos drug ring or something would be fun
And it has to have an outragous amount of police brutality
YES
but treated like a normal police story
so the protagonist isn't phased at all
Warhammer noir but you don’t have to solve crime or follow the law
Walk around shooting door handles as a way to open them at like a hab commissary
commissar told me he was proud of me once.
fuckin prick
Sister of Khorne
Why she scritchin that dude's chin
Sexism
see this lasgun? old man gave me that when i was in the factorum. seen a lot of action.
safety ALWAYS off
i have an unhealthy obsession with trailer park boys
what in-game weapons that we have do cadians use?
both laspistols i imagine, all 3 infantry lasguns, plasma gun... do they use any bullet weaponry for their non-sniper infantry?
All their weapons are las based, even the snipers like most guard regiments.
Cadians also dont really have "gear", they use standard issue equipment.
So the Kantrea lasguns, laspistol, chainsword, plasma-gun and the "base" generic flak armor you see in some cosmetics is the same shit they also utilize
Love the pump action las guns
I was about to say thats prob the grip
but theres literally a shotgun rack/slit thing on it
lmfao
Yea lol
Don’t forget about the ‘artificial recoil’ las guns have
I have no clue if it’s real or not
Lasguns got recoil in 90% of 40k material
its only some smartass authors that say it doesnt have one before just another piece of work in the universe negates it
so it just doesnt matter

oh oh a guard question finally!!
they use lasguns mostly since they're guard
castellans and other officers get melee weapons and pistols that they get to choose
they even get full scale bolters
you'll often see them using chain swords and power weapons
plasma pistols, bolt pistols, autopistols, laspistols
cadian shock troopers also get autoguns sometimes
sergeants can have belt fed autoguns
lore wise it gives them more full auto firepower
other than that they also have squad weapons like grenade launchers
melta guns, plasma guns
but those are specialist weapons
then you go into the bigger guns like lascannons, heavy bolters and autocannons
those are squad operated weapons
oh wait fuck you asked for in game weapons
I was gonna stop you and say that
but seeing you destroy yourself was too enticing

im too excited to talk about guardsmen 

i didn't even get to talk about kasrkin weapons
which are arguably the cooler ones
there's a selection here yes
shame we dont get hot shot lasguns in game
shame we don't get any sort of snipers
i'd love a grenade launcher
play ogryn 

you get 2 kinds of them, even
not the cool revolver kind that guardsmen use
or! or !
oh and in case you didn't know the lucius pattern lasgun is modelled after the krieg one
the ability to select a charge amount for lasguns
yeah i did know
which was why i didn't even think of them as cadian ones
because yes, lasgun, but not the classic one
which also coincidentally looks like the solar auxilia lasrifle
meanwhile lascarbines i HAVE seen mentioned in lore
aren't solar auxilia just... solar regiments of the guard?
they're the 30k default regiment
since 30k was before any popular regiments existed
Cadians dont have their own lasgun brands, theirs is Kantreal
which is uh, from Kantreal the Planet

fucking mini space marines what is this
its called a space suit
they look funky yeah
you should see their walkers
its like if a sentinel had an abortion
ye light sentinel is awesome
mobile shitter
This one shat its pants
the wild and wacky world of 30k
can take a shit anywhere you want and remain undisturbed because of your back-mounted rockets
☝️🤓 also akshually-
except this is 30k so it'll get turbo shitted on by a space marine super heavy tank
because this is 30k and space marines do NOT fuck around
the Solar Aux has as many good hard hitting tanks
what's the point of solar aux
so that space marines eventually run out of bullets
no
yes
solar aux are elite
fun custom regiment that a GW modeller made that got turned into its own thing
they arent canon fodder
forgeworld
nobody likes GW
Everyone knows that James doesn't really know how to run his Workshop
which pattern does cadia actually use from the 3 infantry lasguns we have
anyways solar auxilia are supposed to be the turbo regiment because anything 40k level would get shit on by space marines
like solar auxilia fields a ton of baneblades and co
Kantreal
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT

oh wait i have question
YES THERE IS YOU IDIOT
while somebody's car alarm blares next to me
SHUT UP.
i wish it could shut up
it was like a few months after the game came out that the cadians got an update
and got another lasgun mark next to this one
Agripinaa
agripinaa?
Agrippinaa or however you spell it
they only produce bullet guns
right so it's dead in cadia stands
why
i thought it was alive
there it is hell yeah
i need to read them books dude
i miss cadia
good guard books are hard to find
you have the tanith who have more books than most space marine chapters
Would it be a full bay that’s part man
yet also being irrelevant both on tabletop and lore
i do want to read gaunt's ghosts yes
they're the only long form guard series i think
Fall of Cadia is better
Cadia Stands is just... boring
ye
the problem with the book is it wastes time basically almost showing nothing about the war on the planet
it's supposed to be the one book where the event that kick starts the entire era happens
and it sucks
irrelevant?! very last human is important, don’t let the hate win 
like it spends 80% of the book talking about that whitesshield bitch
ıt has chaos, marine, guardsmen, civilian, etc all kind of POVs
is that mean
i do not care about her
like i said above it literally explores nothing about the actual war
Isn't Ciaphas Cain also that?
also for some reason a single commissar decides to execute like half a regiment for deserting the planet
Not deserting the planet
hurr durr imperium bad
for dropping their gun during an evacuation
it's just not fun to read
but yeah read Fall of Cadia
i took the first audiobook i could find
good timing because it got an audiobook update
i will purchase it right now
the last narrator was so bad it got replaced
lmao
does it happen before cadia stands
i thought that was cadia stands
whar
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Cadia Stands was a hastily made book that kind of has no substance because it basically explores nothing about the actual war on the planet while you follow random ass guardsmen around that arent even in the thick of the fighting, by 2024 rn its VERY outdated
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Fall of Cadia meanwhile written by Roberth Rath (same guy that did the Infinite and the Divine) explores EVERY aspect of the war, the arrival of Abaddon's fleet, the buildup, how Creed reacts to the situation, the troops, the air battles, the ground battles, how the space marines, sororitas and EVEN chaos marines/Abaddon fare against the entire thing in all their own chapters.
Its a very ambitious book but does the job really well
Like one chapter you are reading about some kasrkin squad hunting down a traitor radio operator using a vox-demon to help chaos bombers pinpoint bomb specific supply caches
Then the chapter after that is Trazyn booping around seeing if theres anything worth stealing on the planet lol
oh i didn't know it was much older
Yeah its uh
they should put dates on their god damn books
is that old
Yes
that's just 2 years ago
Yeah its super good
it also does an amazing job of humanizing Creed
a guy you prob never gave a shit about but will love by the end of this book lol
the car is blaring again
i just know he shits out vehicles like no tomorrow
and auspex tactics jokes
hiding a titan behind a potted plant
hes literally churchill
thats all you need to know
hope you like him smoking and drinking whiskey every page
amazing
i need to buy this and drive home before i smash this car until it becomes scrap metal

who's the new narrator
want to make sure i'm getting the right one
is it david seddon
no rush but i will go fucking insane soon
shit so i have the older version
oh ok
im using apple books is why
i'm previewing it and it's the same guy who did fall of cadia
alright fuck it 28$ let's go

Seddon these nu..
dilara making GW more money than their marketing team
holy shit this intro is awesome
Told ya so
Only warning im gonna give remember that this covers the war from EVERY party's perspective.
So expect some POV whiplash, its easy to get used to a few chapters in
please if someone can find this post it good lord, but i saw a meme of a like 3 page cheap bound book and it was titled "THE FIRST 40K NOVEL FROM THE EYES OF AN EVERYDAY CITIZEN"
im assuming by page 2 he was mortally injuried and by page 3 it was the end of the book
Lmao
the life of the average pleb is probably just really boring
like going to the manufactorum every day to hit a machine with a wrench until you die of old age
but slot machines at every street corner
balance overworked and communal living spaces with high speed unrestricted gambling
am i missing a joke here
they wouldnt have time to be heretical gotta hit the slots baby
my state 3 years ago decided to put slot machines in every gas station, roadside restaurant, inner city bar and even in truck stops to boost finances
the joke is its funny when you put the downtrodden unto irresponsible addictions
oh
right because gambling is poor people tax
i didn't get it because i dont think most imperial plebs get paid
shouts out to the everyday citizen for hanging in there and not rightiously taking up arms against the local authority
get them tanks schmooovin out that foundry lads
that's what the enforcers are for
making sure they're loyal
this isn't an Orwellian critique, it's grimdark
get bonked in the head if you act weird
dude rimworld is a fucking game
what in the world is this
also, my headcanons are that both borderlands and rimworld are based in highly unexplored parts of the 40k galaxy
Kinda like how in Minecraft when you find a village you steal the bountiful harvest but replant them (idk)
A gentrified criminal
they beat your citizens but make sure they're still okay to work
In other settings we call them "superheroes"
so, in the game, whos in charge, grendyl or brahms
Grendyl
Grendyl has dirt on Brahms
so what exactly is brahms job
She's a Rogue Trader
They are dynasties that are given as much rights as they can, and work as traders, both with Imperial worlds and sometime with Xenos ones
Xenos is just a fancy word for aliens, it's not that they're inherently good or bad
The Imp does deem them as bad though
Yeah but that's the Emperor tho
As much as I love the Imperium I can't say that they're the good guys
Oh they are fully not good guys
They're the protagonists of 40k, and we follow it's story mainly through the eyes of humans, but it doesn't mean that they aren't horrible, xenophobic, genocidal, religious maniacs
Yeah
All ill say is theres a reason not every Imperium book (most of the time) has you following a human character whos a straight up nazi.
They are made to be sympathetic or one of the semi-good among the billions of rotten bunch because that is fun to read for a reader that is getting into the setting.

Yeah, it wouldn't be fun to read Gaunt's Ghosts if Gaunt was a typical commissar
^
Same reason why Guilliman is the "main" Primarch of Era Indomitus, hes the best person you can use from a marketing POV as a Hero Poster Boy.
Blue armor, blonde, handsome, triyng to manage to "fix" the Imperium even tho thats not really the point of the setting, etc

I'd argue he isn't fixing it 
He isnt but the marketing is trying to show it like he does.
Realistically speaking the Imperium is not salvagable, theres a reason his first words when he woke up were "Id rather we died in the Heresy than see what has happened now"
lmao
I mean more that his glorious space empire is also probably horrible
Well yeah but people dont really know that either
I'm sure Space Caesar will be totally normal about eugenics and stuff
Sometimes I wonder how things could've been if Emperor hugged his sons once in a while 
Probably better 
LOL
also yeah guilliman straight up tells the rogue trader thats flirting with him that he straight up has genocided countless species and that she should be afraid of him
he is one of the few rare primarchs to actually be burdened by the fact though which is a rarity, he has straight up said his real father is Konor Guilliman
Guilliman would hate pleasure worlds
Being a hard ass that he is, he wouldnt be tempted by vices and as a result would cause a small drain in humanity’s self expression
Which in turn will cause severe acts of resentment and secession
There will be arts and shtuff
But it would be in the greater benefit of society as opposed to singularity and expression
The imperium as it devours everything will devour itself
The coolest alternative universe scenario for 30k is if ALL primarch collectively went, this emperor dude is a jack ass lets just kill him and institute a republic
No Empire also ever lasts forever
the Imperium is not even an Empire either though if we want to get technical so lol
Which the Emperor knows but like a dumb ass doesnt tell anyone about it
The worst thing also being the other perpetuals just
Went with it too knowing the same too




