#40k-lore-chat

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rocky gale
plush mason
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so SOB got done good or dirty?

normal light
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Ok, it`s time to dump 120 cultists on the field

rocky gale
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Looks good

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Won't know until I've got a codex in my hands, but right now from hearing bits and pieces it sounds good

tough haven
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I’m happy with the Ork codex as well

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I know that’s old news but I haven’t had a chance to play them much

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I might later today depending how I feel after work lol

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Anyways, lore time, do most augmented tech priests usually eat? I imagine most are capable of it, but don’t have to for energy

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I know the answer varies ofc

storm jungle
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Yep thats the answer

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Because its impossible to give a certain answers to. Some do actually eat and enjoy common commodities (even if said techpriest cant taste the food) just because "why not".

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Some meanwhile are so augmented they dont even need it.

gray umbra
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Gatorade for electrolytes

queen laurel
tough haven
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Like deadass a mini plasma reactor in their body?

gray umbra
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Movement

tough haven
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Fr?

gray umbra
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Lil crank operated

tough haven
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But doesn’t that just leave you at best at a energy deadlock, or a deficit?

queen laurel
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Or some ****

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Also solar panels and literal generators for organs

gray umbra
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I see what your saying but yeah i always figured augments borrowed naturally produced energy from the body

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Alongside other sources

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Its probably why belisarius has such a big dumpie

tough haven
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Also beyond basic chemical energy for ATP production and powering their augmetics, don’t they still require various proteins and macronutrients for continued function of what parts of their brain that remain?

storm jungle
queen laurel
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They could literally also have a furnace for a stomach that melts down biomatter for energy

tough haven
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Which is fine if they are just a brain in a nutrient solution like some

queen laurel
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So that they can eat like say trees plants and stuff and they would be fine

storm jungle
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the writers dont seek to answer these things

tough haven
queen laurel
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It's honestly up to you how you want to collect energy

tough haven
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Cause I’m bored at work

storm jungle
gray umbra
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Man if we knew we would have augments already

tough haven
storm jungle
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I meant medically

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lol

tough haven
gray umbra
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Oh i know

tough haven
gray umbra
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It just reminds me i wish i could get cybernetic eyeballs for my shitty vision lol

tough haven
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Hm hold on, how are current prosthetics powered? Like do you charge them?

gray umbra
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Yeah. Some are

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If you run out of juice you have to plug your arm into a wall outlet

leaden pilot
tough haven
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Anyone got that page that lists the basic augments almost all tech priests have?

outer wave
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I think some spice of realism could be pretty cool

tough haven
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Same

outer wave
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But it's also high fantasy in space so not sure how bad it would clash if at all

tough haven
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I mean, bits and pieces could be good with some good ol’ fashioned “it’s techno wizardry”

storm jungle
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Its why novels are a good way for some grounded realism in some scenarios.

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Its more that people are generally here for a plot, not to take a side-segway to explain why this techpriest cant starve.

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Its why theres so many throwaway explanation lines in 40k novels like a comic book

outer wave
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I see I see

gray umbra
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I think realism is nice and all but people get too caught up on details and then it becomes an argument from my experience

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Like the custodes thing, which is based off some randon line with masculine terminology

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That somehow now means its a lorebreak for femstudes

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Like its nice for detail

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But people get too caught up on restricting others with it

crystal forum
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people are starting to use realism and historical accuracy just to hide their blatant dog shit tastes

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it's like people believe realism is inherently better than anything else

crisp heath
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Were there any loyalist world eaters?

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They all would have had the nails by the time of istvan I’d think

leaden pilot
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Weren't all potentially loyal marines from traitor legions slaughtered at Istvaan III?

crisp heath
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Yeah

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Just wondering if world eaters had any at all

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Or were they all down with being traitors cause of the nails

rocky gale
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They didn't have Nails implanted and tried to stop Lorgars ritual to turn Angron into a Daemon Prince

green loom
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Almost all of them dead on Istvaan

crystal forum
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a lot of them on istvan weren't even loyalist lol

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the primarchs had to sprinkle in some who were chaos oriented so the loyalists didn't suspect they were being sent to their death

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the book mostly follows the luna wolves and emperor's children but we hear of the loyalist world eaters hiding in bunkers when the virus bomb dropped since at the time they were assaulting the outer defence line of the city

crisp heath
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Also, was Fulgrim ever cool before his traitorous turn and daemon stuff?

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Never read any of his books

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But I feel like I wouldn’t like the guy

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Seems like he would rub it in your face he’s better then you

keen nova
green loom
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Ye fulgrim was pretty nice early on

gray umbra
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Fulgrim was a pretty decent guy

crystal forum
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his book is boring

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but he liked art a lot

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and brought a lot more remembrancers with his fleet than other primarchs did

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then he found a sword and liked art too much

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his reason to go to chaos is dumb af

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slaanesh is dumb af

tough haven
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So what does a cranial implanted auspex look like?

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Or world it even be visible if it’s implanted in the brain?

tough haven
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Because bile was upset his daughter took a bullet for him

tough haven
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I’m just trying to kinda head-canon what some minimalist/more biologic tech priest gear would look like

keen nova
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What the most technological advanced guard regiment? Non tempestus scions

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Also, the guard auto targeter helmet in the game, how does that work in lore?

green loom
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Elysians get pretty techy

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The Arkhan Confederates have steam-powered power armour

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I think there's a regiment that uses weird hover sentinels too

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The Vitrian Dragoons have pretty advanced armour that can swap between regular livery and non-reflective camo

keen nova
green loom
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Yeah guard tech levels get pretty crazy

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It isn't particularly crazy if there's some random planet with guys that look like this

queen laurel
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Like they are so varied and unique on their own ways that it's actually kind of fun

river walrus
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There any traitor legions that defected chaos? For either another god or the emperor

arctic talon
tulip brook
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they don't exactly work like 30k legions anyway, they are mostly warbands within bigger legion identity and there can be marines with different alignments within a warband too

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betrayal and defection is a constant, I don't think they will turn to emperor tho, imperium isn't exactly known for being merciful

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not to mention a big part of them have personal reasons to hate imperium for at least hundreds of years

storm jungle
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theres an entire faction aka Blackshields who are made of loyalist, traitor or non-different Legion members

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entirely made so that you can make any kind of renegade Marines with any goal you want

arctic talon
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I assumed this was about 40k

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tbh

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if its about 30k yeah

rocky gale
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Pretty sure Deathwatch still has Blackshields

storm jungle
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their blackshields is radically different but ye

dusk patrol
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For 30k we have people like the anchorite who defected during Calth but mostly we don’t see many marines defect once chaos really took root, loyalist traitor and Blackshields existed for all legions

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For 40k deathwatch or something exotic like joining a radical inquisitor or rogue trader is pretty much your only option if you’re somehow not too corrupted and trying to rejoin the Imperium

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Which is why there’s a fair number of implied Fallen in Deathwatch as well as renegade chapters or remnants of chapters who fell. It’s fairly unlikely that a marine who was a CSM for any length of time wouldn’t be too corrupted to join but it’s not impossible I guess. Blackshields in Deathwatch largely aren’t directly explained for their origins and it’s extremely rare they’d ever tell anyone besides their commander and the chaplain who allowed them in.

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For 30k there was just everything, World Eaters and Iron Warriors in particular are singled out as having massive portions of them which remained loyal, although most of the World Eaters died on Istvaan III.

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White Scars probably had the most turn traitor of any loyalist, Dark Angels it’s kinda hard to quantify since the situation was a lot more complex and weird.

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A lot of the rank and file didn’t really turn and weren’t aware of what was going on.

storm jungle
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Amogus Moment

storm jungle
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In 30k they are just plentiful because reasons and got about as many goals as you can come up with that is as long as my arm, down to just "lol i wanna be a pirate and a warlord"

green loom
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I shrimply killed all of them

arctic talon
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or they show up in books exclusively

storm jungle
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Yeah its fucking dumb

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But its not a big deal so eh whatever

dusk patrol
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Tbh it’s kinda weird that the Ashen Claws survived as long as they have anyways

storm jungle
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If it was explained instead of "they exist" id understand it lol

dusk patrol
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As much as I like their idea

storm jungle
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but renegade marines just get no attention also due to marketing reasons prob, you want people focusing on loyalists first and foremost so no need to really divert it

dusk patrol
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Mostly it’s just being on the fringes or whatever, as it’s shown it’s just really fucking hard to go without the support of chaos and the Imperium so you tend to fall for one

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And marines aren’t really built around being fence sitters

lunar harness
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some loyalist space marine chapters are outside the law so to speak

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like a lot of them are hiding secrets that would get them killed if they became public knowledge

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I guess the closest you get is huron but he went full chaos so

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🤷‍♀️

dusk patrol
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Chapters ignoring rules or flaunting their power or reputation isn't what we're referring to though.

lunar harness
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I feel like its kind of a plot point that space marines fall to chaos really really easily

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so maybe they just figure from a writing perspective any marine story worth telling has them go chaos

dusk patrol
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Iron Hands having blatant tech heresies, the Ultramarines having their own state and recruiting from Scions, Black Templars having thousands of marines, Space Wolves and....everything they do.

dusk patrol
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They're still far more resilient to it than most normal humans ever will be.

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There's a lot of examples of loyalists falling but thats ignoring how many chapters are constantly fighting chaos and don't have issues.

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And of course, it just depends on the person.

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Chapters like the Exorcists are gonna be a lot better at dealing with it than most for example.

green loom
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Kinda wishing now that the Lucius short had him possess the like, decoy body thing the exorcists have instead of the marine

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Would've been a fun twist

outer wave
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So when a human in fantasy turns to an ungor due to the curse passed down or via chaos magic, do they retain their memories as a human and can act within those memories, or do they become a completely different person?

dusk patrol
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Examples of Dreadnoughts with no organics, Helfathers which are resurrected marines using DAoT tech, sometimes called Reveants, taking xenos and dark age tech from sources they find and studying it, one clan has a malevolent AI on its Land Behemoths they offer war trophies to, in order to satiate its bloodlust

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Heavy study of Necron stuff too which some would consider a tech heresy. There’s others too but that’s the main ones which we know directly of. Mostly they just don’t care and do what they like. Any Tech Priests or whatever they allow on Medusa into their inner sanctums take a vow of silence and are never allowed to leave.

storm jungle
# outer wave So when a human in fantasy turns to an ungor due to the curse passed down or via...

Beastmen at their "base" form are born from mutation caused by the chaos corruption/winds sweeping from the polars of the planet.

In old lore they used to also kidnap ||and mass-rape women to create more offsprings|| but this has been changed and has remained unmentioned for obvious reasons. Now they largely stick to collecting strayed mutant baby beastmen from humans that leave their kids in the woods to die and breed with female beastmen who only got 1 literal sentence of lore.

And they do keep memories somewhat its more that at the point of turning into a beastmen you are basically a completely different thing so it mostly doesnt matter to them and they turn more- well bestial lol

outer wave
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Damn so they cant even use their knowledge to help with beastman society

storm jungle
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Beastmen hate anything orderly.

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You unfortunately cant help them

outer wave
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Absolutely true plus it'd be coming from ungors

storm jungle
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their lore has it so that they actually get the "bull sees red and goes rage-mode" thing when they see actual structures

arctic talon
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Beastmen also hate like

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God aligned beastmen

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For being too orderly lol

storm jungle
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Yeah beastmen at core are undivided

outer wave
arctic talon
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Slaangors, pestigors, tazngors and khorngors all are like

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Not liked

outer wave
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Im late with the gif damn whatever

outer wave
arctic talon
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Beastmen

outer wave
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Makes sense

arctic talon
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They get abused/killed

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Unless said god aligned beastman manages to kill anyone who tries to like

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You know

storm jungle
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Yeah and god-specific beastmen was a super unexplored concept in WHF, and had like big super passing mentions due to the main miniature line being un-alligned, they became more of their thing once AOS rolled around.

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then the great purge happened

outer wave
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I like that AoS explored that whole thing

storm jungle
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Yeah now they are back to being goons

green loom
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Slaangors gaming

outer wave
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It makes beastmen that much more selfish when it comes to trying to woo the gods into getting them gifts, slightly unlike every other chaos follower

arctic talon
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Beastmen are gona get mentioned and show up in lore still

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Like every other AoS thing that lost minis

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And rules

outer wave
arctic talon
storm jungle
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Unfortunately its the truth

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they have been goons as long as warhammer has been a thing

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so like almost 30+ years

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genuinely nobody cares about beastmen

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neither in games

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neither in books

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neither in tabletop

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its sad lmao

outer wave
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Tbf it fits their lore in a real ironic way

arctic talon
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Beastmen got some like

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Big lore in AoS

outer wave
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Black goats that no one gives a shit about

arctic talon
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And then they got thanos’d

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💀

outer wave
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IM HOPING they get a revamp as Morghur's Goat Harem horde or some shit like that

storm jungle
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they are the literal black sheep

outer wave
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And I genuinely like that they are!

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I love that they're so reviled by everyone that they have to work harder to get the gods' attention and they dont really care

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They're just there to bring down civilzation for their own purposes

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It feels tastefully bitter and kinda tragic

storm jungle
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especially for their playerbase

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💀

outer wave
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This isnt to say they should just be consistently underdogs/gooners that just work for some other evil mastermind cuz I like guys like Taurox

arctic talon
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Beastmen and their player base getting fucked

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Name a more iconic duo

storm jungle
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beastmen are just there to be stormtroopers

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Go and die in droves so heroes look good

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almost EVERY SINGLE WHF book

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has them as some NPC fodder enemy the protags kill

outer wave
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God thats rough

storm jungle
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yeah its a huge trope

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the gotrek and felix book has it in droves lol

outer wave
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😔

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I think they would probably sell better if they leaned away from the goat man look a bit

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Probably wouldnt help them in the books however

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I wonder how you could have a major beastman villain that doesnt feel like theyre just being used by someone else that has higher ambitions than them

storm jungle
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Those do exist

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Morghur is one

outer wave
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True Morghur seems like the best candidate for that kinda thing

storm jungle
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Well he is but hes also a Villain of the Week

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Appears

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Dies

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Respawns later

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😔

outer wave
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Swarmlord kinda issue

arctic talon
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There’s the new AoS beastman leader

outer wave
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Actually beastmen are kinda like tyranids in a way huh

arctic talon
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They just introduced

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In dawnbringer

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And then uh

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You know

outer wave
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Man.

arctic talon
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Poor beastmen

outer wave
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Yeah man

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They're really not given many chances to expand into something else

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I do think the aesthetics of the beastmen doesnt help them much since furry and smelly goat people

storm jungle
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Yeah and its a very generic fantasy thing

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theres really just not much you can do about them lol

outer wave
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I personally think they just gotta get away from the centaur/satyr/minotaur look

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And start making more chimeric looks for them like rhino-stag beetle-snake man

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Like have more elite units be more mixtures of various animals and maybe even plants

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These are representative of the dark savage side of the forest so you could go all out

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Or you could play with the creatures WHF already has like the hydra, the sea hydra thing, toad dragon

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Maybe even have ones that look really similar to lizardmen but they also have patches of fur and chitin plates in various spots

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Like these are chaos mutants; they dont just have to be goats and horses, which are a fine start but they dont have to be just that

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I think they can do something, but GW just doesnt because stock margins and maybe some infighting between AoS and TOW teams

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Or they could just weird and silly with the designs like imagine a named beastman lord looking like this

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And his thing is giving his victims more legs than they need and laughs at them as they struggle to live their lives

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Idk maybe Im just not the exective behind the scenes that understands the financial risk and all that but there had to be more ideas than simply porting beastmen into AoS and then doing nothing with them (outside of some lore bits) before shelving them.

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Thanks for coming to my TED talks.

dusk patrol
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They got some cool named dudes but even they’re kinda just

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Boss enemies for the mooks

outer wave
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Yeah they're simply built that like fundamentally

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Still would be cool to see more from them

dusk patrol
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I do like the named ones we got

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There’s some fun characters there

outer wave
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I dunno too many beastmen characters aside from Morgoth, Taurox, Slugtongue, and uhhhh yeah

crisp heath
outer wave
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I LOVE PROFESSOR LIONWHEEL HE CAN GO IN ANY DIRECTION

tough haven
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I love how people always think slaneesh is the god of sex and being horny, when in actuality, most slaneeshi followers would find sexual acts to be incredibly dull amusements, like maybe as a gateway to excess, or if you’re starting out following slaneesh, but for the most part it’s all about like consuming the pineal gland of the last of a race while it laments its fate while freebasing 6 different chemicals at once because it’s the only way they can feel anything anymore

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Or obsessing over the way to create the absolutely most perfect painting

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Or like more hellraiser type stuff

outer wave
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I kinda hate that thats the only thing people see in Slaanesh, even though its the most obvious thing about them

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They're a really interesting chaos god when you get down to it

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Perfection and obsession is such a human thing that we can all relate to in some extent

tough haven
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And excess, anything can be done excessively

outer wave
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Right?

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Like holy shit you can be more creative than that

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It's pretty scary just how all encompassing Slaanesh is

rapid ravine
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so is there a meaningful difference between servo-skulls and cogitators besides servo-skulls were techpriests once?

arctic talon
dusk patrol
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Servo skulls don’t typically have any actual brain matter or whatever

plush mason
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yeah its just the skull of the person they use

dusk patrol
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That being said some are a bit…quirky and the skull does have significance beyond the symbolism

normal grove
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My psyker refered to the Emperor as the "Carrion Lord"
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being Horus, how heretical is that?

dusk patrol
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There’s a Deathwatch servo skull made from one of their best trackers/scouts which has unusual ability to track and detect stuff

dusk patrol
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They’re very open that he’s like

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Dead/dying and suffering

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Similar Jesus being on the cross for Catholicism

normal grove
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Never heard any faithful loyalsts use that term once

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only heretics

plush mason
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the heretics call him the corpse emperor

dusk patrol
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It’s called the Carrion Throne

plush mason
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the imperium calls him the carrion lord because his body is dead but his soul lives on

queen laurel
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Don't worlds have specific beliefs on what he is

dusk patrol
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It varies yeah

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But my point is they use that term

normal grove
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Whelp, guess my angry psyker is a bit less heretical than I thought, won't have to report him to the Commisar

dusk patrol
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It’s a death cult

queen laurel
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Like in rogue trader the primal world sees him as an eagle

plush mason
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the Eshers call the emperor the empress

dusk patrol
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The fact that he’s dying or suffering hugely is a feature

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But yeah worlds worship him all ways

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Sun god, fisher king, death lord

normal grove
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I like the loonies who insist "he'll get better soon'he's about to stand up any day now!!"

plush mason
dusk patrol
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Which is why GSC can often blend in their own cult as a eccentric offshoot

normal grove
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No way in hell is he ever gettin off that golden toilet

plush mason
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the 4 armed emperor

dusk patrol
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Idk he might

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I doubt it but never say never

normal grove
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Not with Robusts Girly Man doing the heavy lifting now

dusk patrol
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I would have said the same for that 13th Black Crusade finishing and Squats coming back

normal grove
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I'd say Krorks coming back are more likely

dusk patrol
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Nah

normal grove
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yah, cuz WAAAAGH

dusk patrol
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Krorks might as well be a meme by the community how much they talk about them vs how much they ever mattered

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Or what they even were

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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People see one passage from a Bile book and extrapolate to the moon

queen laurel
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And the beast was the closest we got

normal grove
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they menetioned in that great Ghaz book, as what they're trying to achive one day too

queen laurel
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But that guy literally just spawned off screen

dusk patrol
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It’s very possible they can never be that again

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We don’t even know how good Krork were

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It’s possible the Beast Waggghh exceeded them

normal grove
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Ghaz's whole relgion is like "If we stopz mukkin about, wez could be az gud az dem and maybe even az big."

queen laurel
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Other than that basically nothing

dusk patrol
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Yeah which is meaningless as a descriptor really

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People extrapolate way too much about them

normal grove
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No real chance of Ghaz's religious aspirations of a WAAAGH big enough to bring Krorks around succeeding, but I say its more likely than Emperor getting better

dusk patrol
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You can argue the War of the Beast implies how dangerous they could have been but

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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There’s so much fuckiness with lore for that era

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Like now it’s lore that Grots were the commanders

queen laurel
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You would need to somehow put one in a perfect battlefield to grow into it

dusk patrol
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Or implied I should say

dusk patrol
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It’s fine theorizing I just try to curb the like

queen laurel
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Ghaz he's like the closest we are getting right now and he's basically only reaching the level of the beast

dusk patrol
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Very authoritative statement people make about them

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Since we really know Jack shit

queen laurel
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And he's literally doing all of this work

queen laurel
normal grove
queen laurel
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I'm pretty sure in the making of war in heaven Lore they're like wait

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What about the giant green fungus what about their origins

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Just stick them in lore in war of heavens and they'll be fine

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Because they literally show up kill stuff and literally get obliterated by orbital fire

dusk patrol
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Like in my opinion they likely had a kill switch kinda deal to regress when the Old Ones died and needed proper control to be where they were

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Then combine that with the Necrons kicking their ass and the Eldar doing it for the next 50 million years

normal grove
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The only other ultra uge and smart ork besides Ghaz? || Ufthak Blackhawk, by the end of Da Big Dakka ||

dusk patrol
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We have the end result of Orks

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Just not as good leaders

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Orkimedes is probably smarter

queen laurel
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Orkimedes

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He literally made attack moons and tractor beams

normal grove
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Yeah, but Ghaz is roight proppa orky he iz

dusk patrol
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Other Big Meks too likely, Ghaz is just a very effective leader

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He’s not dumb

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But the point being it’s not just smarts

queen laurel
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yeah in the ghaz bookz his way of thinking is brutal but very cunning

dusk patrol
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He’s also obsessive

queen laurel
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yeah that's how he lost in the second war of Armageddon

dusk patrol
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And possibly divinely inspired

normal grove
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I should read some of the Armageddon books

queen laurel
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He got so obsessed with the fortress he forgot to take into attention the other stuff that happening around him

normal grove
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I liked the Ghaz book a ton

queen laurel
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but now though I'd say he became smart grimgor

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He's just wondering the universe looking for the actual good fight

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making orks look for the right fight

normal grove
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Dey robbed Ghaz of getting to krump his favorite umie

dusk patrol
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He robbed himself

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He didn’t lack for chances

queen laurel
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He kept Yarrick around because he liked fighting him

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but because of that he died so

dusk patrol
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And no he’s not going after Angron now

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We don’t even know if Yarrick is dead

queen laurel
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No use crying over spilled juice

dusk patrol
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And if he did die

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Angron didn’t kill him

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As far as we’re aware

queen laurel
dusk patrol
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Fuck knows

queen laurel
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Because I'm pretty sure guilliman took his marine support being black templars

dusk patrol
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It’s left very up in the air atm

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Guilliman convinced Helbrecht that chasing Ghaz was spending too much time on a threat that wasn’t a priority and he wasn’t likely to pin down anyways

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Unless you’re Ragnar for some reason

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Wish they would have just left the Ghaz release for when Helbrecht got a new model but

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Oh well

thorn zenith
dusk patrol
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Maybe a long while ago

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They don’t get much focus these days but Ragnar had a new model

#

It’s not the worst lore ever, especially of psychic awakening

#

It does make sense he would be going after him

#

It’s just kinda lame though

#

GW does like unusual pairings for that kinda stuff though sometimes

#

Got some good art out of it at least

orchid lark
#

Ragnar never beating the dumbass allegations

#

Space Wolves probably got forgotten the fucking hardest by GW at this rate

#

Hopefully its a lead up to them having unique sprues for long fangs and grey hunters

#

Long Fang Phobos Squads or long fang Gravis squads sounds cool

vast crystal
#

The space marines are aro/ace representation

#

(Unironically)

dusk patrol
#

Imo it’s not the best taste to put people who were literally chemically castrated as children under repping sexual orientation

vast crystal
#

I suppose I should remove the representation part of that statement

#

But with the sole exception of the emperors children. They are basically immune to slannesh corruption

dusk patrol
#

Most EC don’t really exhibit sexual proclivities anyways

orchid lark
#

They get enjoyment from other sources, its seen as sexual, but if you get a good scratch on an itch

#

Is it sexual?

radiant lance
#

If you make it that way

rose thorn
#

Warhammer mend Twitter account being transphobic :(

outer wave
#

Who

rose thorn
outer wave
#

Oh a strawman argument

rose thorn
#

asked what this meant and got the most transphobic response staregryn

#

Yes

outer wave
#

Wait what did they say to you

celest dome
#

What is Warhammer Mend ?

rose thorn
queen laurel
#

i think they just saw that and immediately threw in the transphobic shit

rose thorn
#

The trans flag?

#

Yeah

queen laurel
#

yeah

thorn zenith
#

take hot as the sun: space marines actually have manginas

queen laurel
#

yeah i guessed it

outer wave
#

Yeah that'd likely influence his answer to you

queen laurel
#

it's almost an automatic attack response from them

#

these runts are about as subtle as a brute with a big choppa

thorn zenith
#

honestly, western people have borderline psychotic hatred towards lgbt in my opinion

queen laurel
thorn zenith
#

but thats my upbringing speaking because where i grow up its as normal as can be

queen laurel
thorn zenith
#

yea sure

celest dome
#

Not like Western Europe is one of the least anti-LGBT region in the world KEKW_ogryn
But moving on before a Warden has to become involved

queen laurel
#

I agree with the daemon possessed cactus let's try to move forward with the conversation

young pecan
#

What modern girlypop song do you think the average marine would like the best

outer wave
#

California Girls since it talks about a country from ancient Terra

#

And it's the only song I'm hearing right now thanks space marine dancing gif

celest dome
#

COUNTRY ROADS

outer wave
#

TAKE ME HOME

young pecan
#

Should blast it out of the voidship during warp travel

outer wave
#

I'd want to see that in the Amazon TV show

rose thorn
#

Wiat plastic would have worked too

orchid lark
young pecan
#

Imagine the songs the daemons hear before their deaths come is Lady Gaga or Taylor Swift

orchid lark
#

I decided to help TF2 and review the game positively, Im doing my part

rose thorn
orchid lark
#

people review bombing it to get Valve to do something about the bot issue

#

I positively reviewed so it can be seen as a data fluke

#

I want the option where everyone loses except the observers

#

I like the options where the most amount of people can stand to lose

rose thorn
#

Ah

orchid lark
#

I want the opposite effect of the morbius thing with like the fallout show

#

I think, if we can get studio execs to cancel the show mid-production and get a statement because of negative influence from fans, I think thatd be nice

#

I lose out on the second season but, I think everyone else loses out on more

thorn zenith
#

especially if its slaanesh daemons

orchid lark
thorn zenith
# orchid lark elaborate

Taylor Swift song does not carry the right energy imo, using Lady Gaga to herald defeat and humiliation of slaaneshi daemons sound right

orchid lark
#

Meghan Trainors would be stronger I feel like against slaaneshi daemons

young pecan
orchid lark
#

Swift's music empowers Nurgle

#

cause its literal shit

young pecan
#

Don't say her names too many times in chat I'm starting to smell the carbon emissions

thorn zenith
#

imagine being god damn daemons of EXCESS and you hear "Gaaaaagaaaaa Oohlala, want your bad romance"

orchid lark
#

actual Nurgle worshipper

#

poisoning the planet

#

and the sound on the planet

young pecan
#

Okay now I need a mod for that one mission where you turn off the heretic radio station

#

But make the ambient radio heretic chanting Swift music

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

I feel like Linkin Parks or Nine Inch Nails music is the anti-slaanesh music cause the albums were about the main singers fighting addiction

queen laurel
#

she be speeding up the decay of the world

orchid lark
#

Chester Bennington is an imperial living saint

young pecan
#

mfw killing the planet is more legal than calling it out

thorn zenith
orchid lark
#

"but um actually Taylor wasnt using it, she was loaning it off to her friends too."

JUST AS BAD GUYS

#

I like how Gaga is the opposite of nurgle decay, in a way, she soemtimes dresses like she belongs in 40k

thorn zenith
orchid lark
thorn zenith
#

and Gaga song being anti warp/daemons also carry a taste of irony

young pecan
#

brb commissioning an artist for lady gaga in custodes armor fighting slaaneshi taylor swift (and winning)

orchid lark
#

A sister of battle singing some Trent Reznor songs to combat against Slaanesh daemons is something fucking wild

#

Gaga already has a model???

#

dont you guys remember?

thorn zenith
#

hol up, she did?

orchid lark
#

its canoness veridyan

thorn zenith
#

shit

orchid lark
thorn zenith
#

i took one glance at the pic and was like "yep, Gaga"

#

but actually Gaga as a rogue trader would be perfectly in character for her

#

if Cavill warhammer project features that i will make a point of seeing it in theater

orchid lark
#

bringing artpop to the lost human civilisations

thorn zenith
#

also someone pitch her this idea

#

god damn artpop conquistador bringing lights and sounds to the darkened and dirty masses

young pecan
orchid lark
#

she probably has like a passing knowledge of 40k, but like just knows it exists

#

oh thats a thing kinda thing

#

the only female singer i know that knows 40k kinda is Lily Allen

#

only cause she took pictures of David Harbour when he was painting his minis for fun

rocky gale
#

There's been a lingering rumour for years that Angelina Jolie collects Eldar, but I don't think it's ever been confirmed

storm jungle
#

She doesnt seem like the type ngl

rocky gale
#

You never know, apparently Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones played 40k together during the filming of Men in Black

#

and Judi Dench played with Vin Deisel, while filming Riddick

orchid lark
#

Will Smith does have 40k stuff

rose thorn
#

Wow the sister stuff is sold out

#

For pre orders*

orchid lark
#

I believe Robin Williams and Chrisopher Lee were Warhammer Fantasy fans

orchid lark
#

theres a reason she's known as Angelina Jolie and not Angelina Voight

winged jacinth
#

christopher lee being a fantasy wargamer is so unsurprising lmao

#

before he died the man made a metal concept album about charlemagne

#

also yeah john voight is crazy crazy

#

he got the fate he deserved when he signed a contract to do like 5 baby geniuses movies

orchid lark
#

he deserved to be estranged from his kids again because of how conservative he is lmao

#

in fact he deserves to be estranged again

#

Voight wants to vote for trump again, and hates the idea of a ceasefire

#

literally everything Angelina hates

#

literally mended his relationship with them in the 2000s and shits on it 2020s

rose thorn
#

Idk who any of those ppl are zz_smart_no

rose thorn
#

Besides trump

rocky gale
orchid lark
#

Angelina Jolie is Tomb Raider

rose thorn
#

OH REALLY

rocky gale
#

In UK and EU it's Genestealers that sold out

orchid lark
#

no not the new tomb raider

rocky gale
#

Sisters are still available

orchid lark
#

the og tomb raider

winged jacinth
#

the movie tomb raider

orchid lark
#

Jon Voight

rose thorn
#

The good one or the bad one

rocky gale
#

Yes

orchid lark
#

THE COOL ONE

winged jacinth
#

i dont think anyone else has played croft theatrically

orchid lark
#

only two people have

rose thorn
winged jacinth
#

she did like 4 movies though

orchid lark
#

but yeah i feel sorry for Angelina for having a horrible ex husband and trump supporting dad

rose thorn
orchid lark
#

Brad Pitt didnt react very well when they were having their divorce

#

he sabotaged her shares of their shared wine company thing

#

so she didnt get the full amount of it when she sold her shares to the stock market or some shit

#

Brad made it very VERY fucking messy lmao

rose thorn
#

People are so terrible lmao

orchid lark
#

Shiloh, their daughter is doing what her mom did and is dropping the Brad Pitt's family name from her name

#

Robin Williams was the genie from Aladdin

#

Christopher Lee was Saruman in LotR

rose thorn
orchid lark
#

Count dooku

rose thorn
#

Gotchu

#

THOSE are real eye bags?!?

#

I THOUGHT THEY WERE LIKE A MAKEUP JOB

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

YES

#

Man really has

storm jungle
#

I extremely recommend looking up some stuff with Lee, hes an actual legend

#

guy went from being a WW2 commando to playing dracula 💀

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

I was gonna say ‘hmm what warhammer army should I buy with my birthday money’

I forgot I really wanted soulblight til you mentioned Dracula

orchid lark
queen laurel
rose thorn
#

God I love vampires

orchid lark
#

yeah

#

they suck

rose thorn
queen laurel
#

they have some pretty neat stuff

rose thorn
#

I do not

#

I just really struggle to write lore for a custom soulblight dynasty

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

Yesss

queen laurel
#

aight i got you

queen laurel
outer wave
#

I wonder if its possible to run a mixed group in Soulbound

queen laurel
#

a troll can work with the vampire lord and A doom seeker if the opportunity is there

outer wave
#

YO

rose thorn
#

I was considering making my dynasty Chinese but that would be alot of kitbashing

outer wave
#

Oh god I love Jiangshi

rose thorn
#

ME TOO

outer wave
#

AYO

outer wave
#

She is so cool.....

rose thorn
#

Fr

#

Honestly ripping off Chinese myth but making them undead is a good twist

arctic talon
#

oh we're talking about chinese mythology and stories lol?

rose thorn
#

I was thinking about new army with birthday money

outer wave
queen laurel
outer wave
#

Or well, more of that anyway

queen laurel
#

if two players were feeling being a suicidal

rose thorn
#

But I can’t think of lore for a custom dynasty

outer wave
#

Why does Soulbound sound fun to play

rose thorn
queen laurel
#

it has a pretty solid system

#

and alot of classes

rose thorn
#

Yee, AOS is an amazing setting for like 90% of things

#

Fantasy*

queen laurel
#

but hey i've come to likeit

rose thorn
#

To be fair when it released 1.0 was hot ass

#

And deserved a lot of kick back

#

1.5 story was meh

#

But game was playable

arctic talon
#

Soulbound is fun to play

rose thorn
#

2 is when it really came around

arctic talon
#

1.0s gameplay was kind of ass lol

#

a lot of joke rules

outer wave
#

Joke rules can be fun tbf but sounds hollow

celest dome
#

AoS is a great setting that deserve good games

outer wave
#

It does indeed

orchid lark
rose thorn
#

Yea

rocky gale
#

A lot of joke rules, like certain abilities only triggering if you do a little dance

celest dome
#

Use an updated/upgraded Soulbound as basis for a For Honour AoS game please uwugryn

outer wave
#

Anyway @rose thorn make uhhh jiangshi vampires that use metal from raided villages to make more of themselves or to replace lost body parts.

outer wave
rose thorn
#

Some of the realms aren’t really developed but are very open for homebrew

rose thorn
outer wave
#

No I wasnt

#

I dont even know what that is

rose thorn
#

Its really good that’s what

outer wave
#

I just love a certain character from an obscure Chinese gacha game thats basically that

#

Or kinda is but without the vampirism and undead nature

rose thorn
#

No clue how Chinese games are either amazing or hot trash

outer wave
#

Shes a cyborg thats got knife hands

rose thorn
#

?

rocky gale
outer wave
#

Oh shit thats cool

rose thorn
#

Yea

#

It’s really good

celest dome
#

Love the miniature Zombie one

rocky gale
#

It's on Netflix, it's something that's been on my watchlist for ages but I've never got to it

outer wave
#

Its fan art and I have this saved

rose thorn
#

I wish AOS would get more Asian culture reps, It feels like a missed opportunity

rose thorn
outer wave
#

She does?

rose thorn
#

The art style

outer wave
#

DO PEOPLE HERE KNOW ABOUT FOREVER 7 DAYS

#

AM I NOT ALONE?!

arctic talon
#

GW still has more existing stuff they want to flesh out they'd assume

rose thorn
outer wave
#

Holy shit

#

Im not alone.....

outer wave
#

YES

rose thorn
#

Very gay for this guy

outer wave
#

YES

#

YES

#

HOLY FUCK

#

JESUS CHRIST

#

IM NOT ALONE!!!!

rose thorn
#

Lmao

queen laurel
#

slow it down there

rose thorn
#

Besides that I know nothing about it

queen laurel
#

Da ai is absolutely going to kill you

outer wave
#

I know... Im sorry Hadron....

queen laurel
#

nothing special really

outer wave
rose thorn
#

Wrong gif

queen laurel
outer wave
#

One of my friends introduced it to our friend group years ago when it was being released in SEA

#

I have a bunch of fan art of that one specific character cuz I love her

queen laurel
# arctic talon

I'm sorry my good elite infantry furry but I do not know anything about persona other than the characters are apparently hot

#

And that they shoot themselves in the head to manifest a stand like in JoJo or something

outer wave
#

Very fine

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

in 4 you crush a tarot card and in 5 you rip off your own face a mask

outer wave
#

Anyway Im actually really happy to hear others know about F7D

outer wave
#

HH once again having the superior models

rose thorn
wraith root
#

LIAR!!!!

rose thorn
azure knoll
arctic talon
wraith root
queen laurel
# arctic talon

I always find it funny that you can basically defeat a lot of the by replacing their power up guns with real replica guns

#

You try to do a funny cool stuff now you are dead because you actually blew your head off

arctic talon
#

tbh its obvious if its a real gun

#

the evoker is

#

weird

#

also a real gun would probably work lol

#

the goal is to cause an incredibly stressful situation

#

to force the persona out KEKsplode

queen laurel
#

Does it have like a aura that allows it to be known that if it's a real or not

arctic talon
#

No

#

its just weird

#

it doesn't look like a real gun

wraith root
#

Just equip a persona that blocks pierce bigbrain

arctic talon
#

real

#

it just needs to be traumatic/terrifying enough

#

to summon the persona

#

I.E Koromaru(dog) has a collar that strangles them lol

queen laurel
#

Is a persona like a stand similar to jojo

#

Or are they like completely different

arctic talon
#

Persona's are generally not usable outside of specific areas

#

aside from Persona 1 and 2 where you get them from God

arctic talon
#

The God of persona's universe

queen laurel
#

F*** you mean get them from god

arctic talon
#

in that game

#

directly gives you the persona's

queen laurel
#

I knew it has a reputation for having very specific lore but like

#

The f*** is this s***

arctic talon
#

Which is why they can manifest

#

in reality properly

queen laurel
#

Okay so what influences a persona's looks and power

arctic talon
queen laurel
#

It seems to be all trauma related

arctic talon
queen laurel
#

It would look like an orc

arctic talon
#

Depends

#

might look like something else

#

A persona can technically be almost anything

#

real person, fictional person, mythological creature

#

ect.

queen laurel
#

That is incredibly funny that is

arctic talon
#

theoreitcally yes

#

Che Guevara is a persona

#

a specific person also might just manifest a Persona a different way

#

I.E Loki generally looks like this

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

but Loki can also look like this because of how someones mind/personality is

queen laurel
#

That's funny i like it

arctic talon
#

but technically Persona's are your like Jungian Shadow

#

which was something that persona 4 and 5 both like

#

look at

#

4 especially

rose thorn
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

queen laurel
rocky gale
#

Yooo you got the old one before it vanished

rose thorn
#

PRAISE THE STAR CHILDREN!!

queen laurel
#

Praise the four eyed emperor

winged jacinth
rose thorn
queen laurel
winged jacinth
#

in persona 4 Izanami pretends to be a gas station attendant and forces you to participate in a TV murder mystery

arctic talon
winged jacinth
#

another dude too in golden, and she implies that she did it to a whole bunch of other people too

rose thorn
winged jacinth
#

i would love to know how persona actually ties to the SMT games, especially the old ones where you're keeping devils saved to a computer

rose thorn
#

Imperial navy gsc TLDR

queen laurel
#

Yeah i'm pretty sure you heard about them already they just save people for fun

rose thorn
#

Yeee

#

Oh yeah apparently boarding patrol game mode is gonna be in a white dwarf

outer wave
#

The only thing they share are the demons/personas like Pixie, Thor, Asparas, etc

winged jacinth
#

thats a shame

outer wave
#

It is what it is

winged jacinth
#

that would be a fun twist for persona 6

#

sequel to the novels of digital devil saga

outer wave
#

Demi fiend from SMT Nocturne makes a comeback

winged jacinth
#

i was going to say that could also be fun

outer wave
#

He did already in SMT 6 IIRC but we need more of him

winged jacinth
#

technically Dante from the Devil May Cry series is canon to one of the SMT spinoffs...

outer wave
#

God thatd be funn

winged jacinth
#

wait no lmao he was literally in the NTSC release of nocturne

#

persona 6 featuring demifiend and Dante

outer wave
#

Nahobino coming back as well

#

GOD THAT ONE PIXIE FROM NOCTURNE MAKING A COMEBACK

#

Would be cool

winged jacinth
#

having a mixture of shadow type demons and the "real" ones would be funny

#

unfortunately i can already tell you the plot of persona 6 will revolve around going to highschool

outer wave
#

I mean, they all do

#

Hell even the SMT games have high school kids except ones like Strange Journey

winged jacinth
#

yeah but they dont make you go to class do they?

#

the trajectory of persona plots has been to have a blunter edge and focus more on the highschool visual novel stuff based on my vague memories

outer wave
winged jacinth
#

they should make Igor the protagonist of persona 6

outer wave
#

Based

dusky scroll
#

Who's the "least bad" chaos primarch?

winged jacinth
#

Alpharius

#

(dead)

dusky scroll
storm jungle
#

because they werent even remotely interested in chaos before their entire legion fell to it

#

And one is dead and the other basically has been unheard of post 30k

snow fern
#

Yah whatever happened to Omegon?

storm jungle
#

We dont know

#

no lore post-30k lol

snow fern
#

how dull

storm jungle
#

just like their legion 🙏

queen laurel
#

Could have been just the wind though

arctic talon
#

AL are mid

#

They have cool stuff

#

but overall

storm jungle
#

the worst part of AL fans is them coping that they are loyalist when even the officials book they got confirm they are just asshole chaos worshippers

#

kekekek

arctic talon
#

there's like

#

that one squad

#

from the book

storm jungle
#

and the ending revealing

queen laurel
#

Yes but they are alpha legion it doesn't matter

storm jungle
#

they were legit coping

arctic talon
#

who are displaced by time

#

💀

storm jungle
#

💀

arctic talon
#

well

#

they were traitors

#

lol

#

they just weren't chaos infused assholes

queen laurel
#

Chaos servants that aren't infected by chaos are chaos people i don't know what's hard

#

To understand with that statement

#

A chaos worshiper can look as gorgeous as astarion no problem and not all of them look like mutated ball sacks

dusk patrol
#

Like there’s nothing to indicate mostly they’re somehow less corrupted than others, maybe one portrayal I guess

storm jungle
#

yeah like i said

#

its stupid ass cope

queen laurel
dusk patrol
#

Mostly it is

#

In almost all official art

#

Look at these good wholesome loyal boys

queen laurel
#

Most fan art like removes a good chunk of the spikes and makes them look loyalists as crap

crisp heath
#

Do you think Khorne would love or hate daemonic servoskulls

#

On one hand, it means a skull was taken. On the other, they keep escaping from the throne

storm jungle
#

servo skulls are not made to be trophies

#

they are made to be helpers/venerate the user

#

so no

dusk patrol
#

But yeah I digress

storm jungle
#

All their official art is chaos ye

#

minus like 30k

#

which doesnt really count

queen laurel
snow fern
#

Nobody is saying Admech are sensible

queen laurel
#

I swear you may ask will just parade it around as trophy of your old relative

dusk patrol
#

There’s one example of them not really seeming to be corrupted in the outside from recent lore

#

But outside of that

crisp heath
dusk patrol
#

Also like, you’re not using it anymore

storm jungle
dusk patrol
#

It’s not like we haven’t done similar things in history already

snow fern
#

The obsession with skulls is weird

#

Also servitors are piloted by the "dead" person no?

queen laurel
#

Skulls are cool

storm jungle
#

Uh most of the time no

dusk patrol
#

Not really they’re just a like

#

Conduit

storm jungle
#

they get the artificial intelligence of a roomba

#

and thats about it

dusk patrol
#

Servo skulls aren’t servitors also

queen laurel
#

Yeah they're like drones using a skull as a casing

storm jungle
#

we only got like 2-3 examples in lore of them being piloted by an actual dead person

dusk patrol
#

Also those are ambiguous and maybe just quirky

#

The skull does seem to affect it but it’s not clear how always

#

Beyond just symbolism

storm jungle
#

Nah its not ambigious.

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

its literally either

#
  • Author does not care
#
  • Its half-senile
arctic talon
storm jungle
#

like Gorgias

#

or whatever the fuck his name was

arctic talon
#

so it makes sense

dusk patrol
#

There’s a Deathwatch servo skull which was made from a marine which has extra abilities and tracking capabilities

arctic talon
#

they don't look super fucked up

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

arctic talon
#

Servoskulls should contain 0 brain matter

#

emphesis on should

#

the mechanicus and other orginizations break this rule

#

a lot

queen laurel
#

Could fit more stuff in there

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

#

It’s tougher and bigger

arctic talon
#

there's a servo skull from metalica that still has most of the Skitarii Marshal's brain in it

#

and it gives advice/orders/battle plans to the skitarii with it

#

based on battlefield conditions

storm jungle
#

this is your average servo-skull activity

arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

lol

queen laurel
#

Weapon drones

storm jungle
#

yes

queen laurel
#

Cleaning maintenance

storm jungle
#

almost any sort of task can get a servo-skull

#

tho their duties tend to be mid-tier

#

nothing too lowly

#

mostly

queen laurel
#

That's funny

storm jungle
dusk patrol
#

Also low key this thing is clutch as hell in game

storm jungle
#

broke ass mid-2000's 40k RPG rules my beloved

dusk patrol
#

Signum links are busted and the skull is cheaper than just getting a normal signum link

#

Because FFG designers never look at their old books

snow fern
#

Man, we need more Warhammer rpgs

dusk patrol
#

Ever

dusk patrol
snow fern
#

like, where are they?

storm jungle
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Uh mostly archived

dusk patrol
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FFG made a ton

arctic talon
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Cubicle 7

storm jungle
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also yeah FFG explored literally everything

arctic talon
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Still sells them all

dusk patrol
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They have some issues but they’re pretty good

arctic talon
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Cubicle 7 also made malidictum

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Which is so comically lethal

queen laurel
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Soulbound

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If you're feeling fantasy

snow fern
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very nice, now I just gotta find players and make an actually functioning schedule people will show up to lol

arctic talon
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Cubicle 7 also made wrath and glory yeah

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Malidictum is so comically lethal more then one or two combats is like gona kill everyone lol

dusk patrol
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We’re actually in the middle of switching back to Deathwatch from Rogue Trader.

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Because the Space Marine 2 trailer came out and we were all feeling it.

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Exorcist Librarian time for me.

snow fern
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Damn wish that was me, every time I harass people enough to get a campaign going it only goes on for like a month at most

snow fern
snow fern
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fair enough

leaden pilot
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I need to finally gather up some friends and try to run an RPG, whether it's WFRP, Wrath and Glory, CoC or Soulbound

dusk patrol
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Exorcist Librarians are

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A wild wild concept to say the least

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And are kinda broken in universe

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Since you know, they still have no fucking soul signature

queen laurel
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I assume they have something to do with demons

dusk patrol
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Exorcists have “no souls”