40k-lore-chat

[crisp heath]

maybe if emprah gives spikies candy, spikies like emprah

[wraith quartz]

So when investigating a hive city or planetary sector how do the inquisition(s) conduct their investigation in a covert operation type of sense?

[thorn zenith]

Literal torture porn, borderline slaaneshi shit

[dire apex]

They have their networks of informants and operatives feeding info to them. Grendyl already had agents on the ground in Atoma before the 6th began their attacks.

[wraith quartz]

Hmm

I'm gonna continue this conversation later tomorrow

[zealous garden]

Acolyte cells!

[wraith quartz]

I'm continuing it tomorrow

But thank you

[spring cairn]

when you watch a 40k related video and you can't helpt but notice everytime they use darktide concept art to illustrate something

😤

[celest dome]

For Hive setting or character ?

[spring cairn]

everything lol

[green loom]

40k YouTuber try not to use random unrelated image challenge

I mean at least it's better than using AI art but

[celest dome]

Warhammer + animator not using Plague Ogryn's model in a Knight animation 💀

[spring cairn]

the only thing that irks me is when they use something that's clearly not 40k related in the slightest

because it contrasts so much when they'll use something that actually is

[celest dome]

Rumours about CA/TWW3 is that Dechala will be an Flc

[rocky gale]

I dunno if those rumours are true

Like it was basically Dechala as FLC and then 2 DLC focusing solely on Cathay

Which seems odd

[celest dome]

With CA's design on dlc atm

[rocky gale]

Like they so far haven't dedicated a DLC to one single faction, nevermind two DLC

Well I guess except the Champions of Chaos DLC, but that's basically 4 different factions

And Chaos Dwarves was about adding a new faction

[shadow plover]

unless it's a new faction

[rocky gale]

Yea

Like two DLC to overhaul an existing faction seems unlikely

[celest dome]

CA realising that they need to bring back funds in the game and striking at the Chinese community

[shadow plover]

albeit the Cathay dlc was rumored to be in conjunction with Ogre rework iirc

[celest dome]

Also TW WW1 being cancelled is honestly a good thing

[shadow plover]

and new Ogre units for Cathay

[celest dome]

1 Cathayan Ogre and 1 Cathayan Tigerman

[shadow plover]

and a couple ogre units iirc

[celest dome]

I'm not against cross race units, but I feel like it's going to be the CoC problem once more.
Where they put the lord in 1 faction when it should have been in the other

[shadow plover]

which one should've been in another? I thought the were all fine where they ended up in

[celest dome]

The CoC should have all gone to their Monogod faction

With Archeon having scheme to subjugate and take them as special WoC Lords

[queen laurel]

To be honest i want them to give khorne something

And slannesh

Slannesh and khorne are you still a bit lacking something

Nurgle excluding festus because he belongs in the champions of chaos has 3 lords

Tzeentch has two excluding vilitch

[celest dome]

I think there was discrepencies between the Release and Dlc teams

Tbh I think they used the CoC way to quickly

[queen laurel]

It makes annoyingly bloated and basically unstoppable because they can play way too flexible

You need an army that can eat damage ?

Recruit nurgle

[spring cairn]

the current rumours are odd

[queen laurel]

You need incredibly high damaging units khorne

[spring cairn]

2 dual cathay dlc

[queen laurel]

Didn't they literally just got yanbo

[spring cairn]

leaving literally only Dogs of war as a non-cathay addition

[queen laurel]

The jade dragon

[spring cairn]

they did Yuan Bo somewhat recently

[queen laurel]

Why would they need another one

[celest dome]

And should have kept them for dedicated Dlc instead
With the Lords for the CoC dlc being oldies, Arbaal, Aekold, Valnir and Vandred
Or the 4 Lieutenants

[spring cairn]

well because allegedly, those cathay additions aren't really cathay proper

they're tigermen and monkey king subfactions

[tough haven]

How would you ever fight Angron in combat? Ranged weapons are weak against him so you can’t just bombard him, and uh, good luck in melee combat, dudes pretty much a roided up imperial knight

[queen laurel]

Well at least Golg offensive is pretty sure

[spring cairn]

and also some kind of cathayan ogre with an ogre rework and golg as flc

[queen laurel]

Yeah his model is already in the game

Not the most detailed but the shaped is finished

[spring cairn]

anyway, only thing i'm counting on being good is DoW

but according to the leaks they'll only get 2 LL's, but hopefully CA hasn't that locked in and will add a third

[tough haven]

And if you do manage to, he’ll just come back lol

[spring cairn]

because my minimum for racepacks is 3 LL

[queen laurel]

I'm just waiting for the ogre rework

Like they have a solid roster

But their mechanics are definitely undercooked

[green loom]

They're almost guaranteed tbh

If they follow their current trend of DLCs

Monogod + 2 other factions

[celest dome]

Unless the rumours are right

[shut shell]

how does the tech priest bless a rock?

Or a shovel

[storm jungle]

Rocks dont get blessed

neither do shovels

it has to be a weapon with any working kind of mechanism

[green loom]

You probably can bless them tbf

In name

[azure knoll]

do i understand rubric marines in that they are just space marine armor suits manipulated by a thousand sons sorcerer?

[celest dome]

Probably mean the game "blessed"

[celest dome]

SM Automaton

[storm jungle]

^

they gotta be ordered around

imagine them like roombas with guns

[green loom]

They're about as smart as like

Castellans

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

Maybe a little more tactical

[azure knoll]

are there still bodies inside of the suits or is it just empty space/organs needed to interface with the suit

[storm jungle]

no

[green loom]

Nope

[storm jungle]

literally just dust

[green loom]

They empty

[storm jungle]

you can see them in the SM2 trailer

[azure knoll]

not even the soul

[storm jungle]

the moment Titus destroys one it literally falls apart

[azure knoll]

just empty space inside of a suit of armor

no soul

[green loom]

The soul is locked inside

[storm jungle]

^

[azure knoll]

no sign of a previous owner

okay soul

[storm jungle]

the dust is the physical remains, the soul is still there

[green loom]

Also for fucks sake discord changed the mobile UI AGAIN

[celest dome]

Is that because they're made of dust

[storm jungle]

Yep

[green loom]

Whose head do I have to rip off for them to stop switching between convenient and ass

[paper haven]

They're soul dust within the armor, right? Technically still alove just. No will.

[storm jungle]

Yep there is

they are more or less psychically catatonic

[azure knoll]

so these guys aren't okay but the skitarii are fine..?

[storm jungle]

I mean with skitarii it depends wildly

rubrics were entirely affected by a universal curse

[paper haven]

As I understand it, Rubric Marines are extremely dangerous.

[celest dome]

As much as other SM

[storm jungle]

Basically marines with magic bullets and more durable yep

[celest dome]

Are there melee Rubic ?

[storm jungle]

I dont think so

[green loom]

Wait why are skitarii comparable to rubrics lol

[lunar harness]

Rubric Marines still contain the soul of the Marine they originally were, but their body has been turned to dust by the Rubric of Ahriman.

[paper haven]

Lamotomized footsoldiers?

[azure knoll]

skitarii operated by a tech priest

[storm jungle]

It depends

[green loom]

Skitarii are mostly still smart

[storm jungle]

skitarii are not all braindead bots

[azure knoll]

or at least there's a tech priest that can control them if needed

[celest dome]

Skitarii can be operated by TP, but don't always need to

[green loom]

Rubrics don't think

[paper haven]

Ahriman continuing the family tradition of ignoring his father and doing a big oopsie.

[lunar harness]

This "stabilized" their soul and body but also put them in a kind of dreaming state and they will only do stuff if a sorcerer manipulates them

like they are sleeping, their souls are in a "stasis"

in theory it oculd be reversed, which is Ahrimans ENTIRE plot line

[storm jungle]

Rubric marines literally got nothing left hence why they need a sorceror to order them around.

Skitarii vary wildly, some literally got no free will, others are basically cyberized guardsmen with autonomy while still taking orders from techpriests.

[green loom]

The rubrics don't function without a puppeteer, skitarii differ but the stock skitarii get implants and have their arms/legs chopped off for augmetics

[paper haven]

Isn't that why he's looking for the black library?

[storm jungle]

Yeah

but like

its never gonna happen

rubric marines are a tabletop unit, you cant take away their schtick

[lunar harness]

It happened once

[storm jungle]

yeah briefly

[lunar harness]

just to trigger him

:3

[storm jungle]

but it wont happen

so like it doesnt matter

[azure knoll]

maybe if his soul wasn't sold to tzeentch it could happen

[celest dome]

Didn't the Eldar new god transform some back to normal before killing them

[lunar harness]

Yea

[storm jungle]

it was yvraine

she did it right outside the library too

[paper haven]

Clown god constantly pranking Ahriman is a favorite of mine

[azure knoll]

thousand sons can't get a single W

[storm jungle]

It sucks tbh

their literal daemon-homeworld gets attacked by loyalist marines and they somehow still lose

[paper haven]

They deserve it.

[azure knoll]

even their agruably coolest moment is them being heavily overshadowed by a half-dead dreadnought with a nuke

[storm jungle]

Accurate.

[lunar harness]

https://youtu.be/bM8YGsAmeqE?t=879

Ahriman ilu :3

[storm jungle]

They mostly just get nothing done

especially on a grander scale

[paper haven]

MuR-DER the StARs

[storm jungle]

like magnus' psyker empire has been going nowhere for like years now because no one cares about that plotpoint

[lunar harness]

Thousand Sons have a new homeworld tho 😄

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Yes thats the one im talking about

[lunar harness]

Its basically "wrapped up" in that its there

[storm jungle]

Sortarius gets attacked lol

and they just lose again

[paper haven]

Can't wait for the Space Wolves to find that one too

[storm jungle]

because Space Wolves

[storm jungle]

They already did

[lunar harness]

40k stories progress until they hit a stasis point and then sit for like 5 years

[azure knoll]

everything's sat still since the heresy it feels like

[lunar harness]

like we will be in the evil warp era of 40k for probably the next 8 years before they move the setting forward again

[paper haven]

Damn. Time is a flat circle.
How is it that the psychic guys keep making the same mistakes and never see the same results coming?

[storm jungle]

shitty writing

lol

[azure knoll]

that and the 13th black crusade

[lunar harness]

Well, you can't have the story end

ever

end times was awful

xD

[azure knoll]

like it would ever end

[storm jungle]

nobody is asking for end times

lol

[lunar harness]

No one wants 42k end times

[azure knoll]

they can literally just add a new faction

fwiw

[lunar harness]

All story lines have to reach a stopping point and just linger

[storm jungle]

40k will only end when it stops making money

[azure knoll]

fuckin

other galaxies

[paper haven]

Keep adding new factions but don't change the status quo

[storm jungle]

Also not really, some wrap up when it has nothing to do with the main narrative

most get continued in some fashion or another

the climaxes always are boring tho

[lunar harness]

I hope it just never ends, tbh there are some cool more modern 40k stories but the timeline never needed to enter the 42nd millenium

[storm jungle]

I mean even if 40k ends why do you care.

Its a setting

[lunar harness]

just expend horizontally in the setting instead of forward

[celest dome]

Standard Chaos characters

[lunar harness]

because it taints it, like with end times

[storm jungle]

not really

[paper haven]

Warhammer 50k boi

[storm jungle]

theres no "taint"

[lunar harness]

idk, as someone who did not read a single WFB story

[storm jungle]

warhammer fans are just crybabies worrying over nothing

[lunar harness]

this is what I hear from other people

[storm jungle]

Yeah there you go

why are you listening to other people

[azure knoll]

"taint" is such a meme

[lunar harness]

no more WFB stories, and everyone ik whos opinion I trust basicaly says AOS lore is...

not great

[storm jungle]

AOS lore is good

[azure knoll]

because people were saying how shit the setting is now that it's gone "woke"

[lunar harness]

Cool models, Awful world

[storm jungle]

again, where are you getting this

[azure knoll]

and people fucking forgot like 2 weeks later

[green loom]

Don't worry Dilara I'm sure "EmpireMaster1488" is a trustworthy source

[lunar harness]

My friends

[storm jungle]

no...?

[storm jungle]

You got really bad friends

lol

[lunar harness]

[storm jungle]

"Yes this setting sucks, my friends said so"

[green loom]

Yeah AoS lore is different but hardly bad

Also

[celest dome]

WFB moved for a long time before we had the ET that sucked, and most of the time it was great
And AoS lore is great and move faster than 40k

[lunar harness]

Everything theyve told me about it so lame

[green loom]

We literally got a Warhammer fantasy book a few months ago

[azure knoll]

can lore chat bless me while i'm rolling for a fucking trauma force staff rq?

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/carl-aqua-teen-hunger-force-it-doesn't-matter-it-don't-matter-universe-gif-6683683478197042259

[storm jungle]

the End Times happened entirely because of poor sales and the playerbase itself literally trashing the game. I was there when every fantasy fan was like "man i hate this game, i hope it dies"

And when it happened they were like "noooo how could this happen."

lol

[lunar harness]

Actually, I have the Valkia the Bloody book on my phone

🙂

I havent started readin it though

[green loom]

The Cawkwell one?

[lunar harness]

ya

[green loom]

Yay

[azure knoll]

lore chat is not blessing me 😭 🙏

[green loom]

Lmao

[lunar harness]

You need to get the mod for buying grays

and spend 1 mil at a time

xD

[azure knoll]

i ain't even got 1m

i think i squeezed 300k out of my 200k that i had

but like

i have plasteel rn

but no monies

[lunar harness]

If its over 360, as long its most important stat isnt bad

thats more than good enough

[azure knoll]

killing myself this evening btw

[lunar harness]

you can get multiple over 360s in 200k

[azure knoll]

tf is this shit

[celest dome]

Dreadfleet still is my 2nd favourite warhammer fantasy book

[green loom]

Anyway AoS is pretty epic

[storm jungle]

Same its a good one. I really just dont understand this stupid childish notion of "the setting is dead"

[azure knoll]

stormcast eternals my beloved

[storm jungle]

I literally have been playing WHF rpg games with my friends for like years now long after its gone

lol

[lunar harness]

because I got into the tabletop last year now I see all the new AoS models, so I saw this guy

very cool looking

[green loom]

Kid named Lords of the Lance

[storm jungle]

Cubicle 7 but yes

[green loom]

No I mean it's a new fantasy book lol

[storm jungle]

I KNOW I READ IT

[lunar harness]

thats pretty cool. I would love to give WHF rpg a try, but I could barely get my friends to try Dark Heresy

[queen laurel]

Soul bound is goated

[storm jungle]

If you dont have good friends its not worth it

learned that the hard way

[lunar harness]

My friends are really good roleplayers

But we mostly play 5E

[green loom]

I know our dear friends at Horus galaxies weren't happy when some of the knights weren't french dude knight stereotypes

[lunar harness]

We've played Pathfinder 1E, 2E, GURPS, Mutants and Masterminds...

3.5, 5th Dungeons and dragons

[queen laurel]

Did that guy like bretonia

[lunar harness]

and Dark Heresy cause I made them

:)

[green loom]

Probably not

[queen laurel]

Well that's a surprise

[storm jungle]

I remember another thing from a few years back in the WHF Bretonnia RPG book

where the opening page literally says Bretonnia is a sexist society but you absolutely dont have to follow this lore because of it being icky

which is great lmfao

people got mad about that shit too, and this was before the female knights being a thing

[queen laurel]

I swear to god at this point i would just break into people's houses and forcefully install a neurolink chip into their brain that says that warhammer is fiction over and over again every time they try to type in an opinion

[lunar harness]

T_T

[storm jungle]

Its either getting mad at women or being racist so

[queen laurel]

Okay let me get this straight you don't like your racist fascist god bodyguard to have women in them

I swear their arguments never make sense

Like they just do this every f****** day because they have nothing better to do

[lunar harness]

Also imagine u tell a story about women that actually reflects the experience of women instead of just making them reskinned guys... its not like women have found success or been heroic in sexist societies in real life before...

[queen laurel]

It's all the same man

[lunar harness]

but maybe thats asking for alot of nuance from BL authors ahahaha

[storm jungle]

BL writers do this tho

40k has a lot of sexism in some novels which the female characters overcome

and said sexist dude always dies horribly lmao

[celest dome]

There is a short about a Bretonnian daughter who become a Faceless after her dad dies and her brother become Duke and majorly suck at it

[lunar harness]

I like Arya's story line in GoT a lot but that show died in a garbage fire

[queen laurel]

Isn't there like a story about a girl who tried to achieve a lot but her sexist tribe didn't let her

But she became a successful titan pilot

[storm jungle]

Yep.

Some 40k writers actually manage it here and there

like even the first lore for Imperial Knights also had it so that female knight pilots were not allowed lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah respanse and Valkia rearranging the ego of some guys in warhammer fantasy too

[storm jungle]

Yep-yep

[lunar harness]

Love women with bowl cuts 🥺

[green loom]

The big thing with Repanse isn't even that she's a woman right

[celest dome]

Wasn't that updated to it being certain legions not allowing it or something ?

[green loom]

More that she's a former peasant

[lunar harness]

She's literally just Joan of Arc

[celest dome]

Well both are

[lunar harness]

its not that complicated

xD

[queen laurel]

Yeah like that would add extra insult

A peasant women outdoing some of the most respected noble men

Into battle

It's f****** hilarious

[celest dome]

She is a woman and a peasant, either of would make Knights not listen to her

[queen laurel]

And fun

I f****** hate this voice typing at times

But yes ignoring my blatant foul up

People complaining about women in a warhammer setting even though some of the greatest characters in warhammer are women is just absolutely fucked

Custodes have women what's the big deal

[celest dome]

We need some Valkia books in AoS tbh

[queen laurel]

I wish people can just get it through their fixed skull

[lunar harness]

Also there are different cultures, so its not like the Bretonnians being sexist means the whole setting is sexist

[queen laurel]

Her model got eviscerated right

[lunar harness]

Like, Norscans would just respect anyone strong enough to beat a bunch of people up tbh

[celest dome]

Like the mold ?

[queen laurel]

Yeah it was decommissioned

If i remember

[lunar harness]

She had a plastic model

Typ: Miniature
Material: Plastic
Released: 3 November 2012
Discontinued: 8 October 2015

[storm jungle]

It was entirely changed so that female knight pilots are a thing the next edition. The first one was literally just "women do court stuff not pilot knights"

[lunar harness]

I do know there was a Horus Heresy book from like 10 years ago I read that had a female knight pilot

I never realized that was even a thing

She fell to Slanesshi corruption and then her brother rolled his will save against Fulgrim's glamour and shot him in the face (with a knight)

It was pretty funny

It was the combo of nobles always fall to slannesh corruption and the knight was too proud to admit fulgrims authority over him (he had a bunch of his ancestors mind echos in the knight screaming in his ear to fight back)

it was a really cool window into knights, but it was also 30k so.... 🤷‍♀️

idk I kind of like 30ks art direction more than 40ks a lot of the time

[celest dome]

he had a bunch of his ancestors mind echos in the knight screaming in his ear to fight back)
Honestly one of the best part of the Knight lore

[lunar harness]

Yea it is

same with titans, I love that the titans have the same thing but even more extreme

because they have multiple people piloting it and the strain is much higher

Titans can even just have enough and go off on their own if the machine spirit gets riled up enough

[azure knoll]

does krieg have militarum preachers? i feel like playing a krieger zealot would be nice because i really like the non-vet krieger fashion in store right now

[crystal forum]

pretty much every regiment has preachers so i'd say yes

[azure knoll]

in the same breath, do they employ alpha psykers?

[queen laurel]

psykers and ogryns are specialized units that will be sent to regiments that require their help

That's why they also have the krieg stuff because they usually adopt the culture of the regiment they're attached to

[crystal forum]

there's a krieg psyker uniform in game and GW approved it so probably

also ogryns live alongside regiments on home planets

[storm jungle]

Alpha psykers are extremely rare, militarum-associated psykers are lower level

[crystal forum]

oh you meant alpha level psykers yeah no militarum would not have access to that lol

[azure knoll]

figured the militarum employed alpha psykers because those were the guys that got the schola's/astra telepathica's stamp of safety

[azure knoll]

wait is it not alpha but primaris i'm thinking of?

[crystal forum]

alpha level psykers are barely able to contain their power. they're ridiculous on the power scale

[storm jungle]

Thats the one

^

an alpha-near psyker can literally do shit like put an entire city to sleep

[azure knoll]

okay i got a bit confused

[storm jungle]

all good, basically the psyker chart starts from the bottom of the greek alphabet and goes to the beginning, the more near the bottom you are the less powerful

[queen laurel]

Either they are save us super weapons or used as a battery for psy titan

[azure knoll]

i remembered that the sanctioned psyker "occupation" that they use in the militarum shared a name with smth else

[storm jungle]

Primaris iirc literally means "first" so lol

[azure knoll]

but just switched another occupation with a level

[storm jungle]

yep

[crystal forum]

did you know that the word assassin comes from the word hash

weed and assassins have something in common

[crystal forum]

oh shit i forgot i'm supposed to be proud this month

[azure knoll]

supposedly

proud 24/7/4/12

[shut shell]

why r all the psykers schizo

[dusk patrol]

There’s a comment somewhere on how Beta level tends to be the peak for most sanctioned psykers because beyond that they’re generally insane

Voldus for the Grey Knights for example is Beta level and he’s noted to be one of the strongest psykers they’ve ever had.

But that also being said it’s not impossible

[shut shell]

are any of them sigmas

[rocky gale]

Sigma is in the negative scale I think

[dusk patrol]

The Custodes for example have some Alpha level Astropaths who can get messages from the future they use to try to predict events

[shut shell]

what’s that

[rocky gale]

They're like anti psykers, resistant to certain powers etc

Although Sigma isn't fully Anti Psyker like the Blanks are, it's just like reistant rather than immune

[nimble lark]

Wasn't Gideon ravenor an alpha or alpha plus psyker

Might be misremembering, been a while since I read that series

[rocky gale]

Ehhhh

I think someone at some point calls him Alpha+ but that's unlikely to be accurate

In other parts he's described as being somewhere between Delta and Gamma

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats just Abnett not knowing what an Alpha+ psyker is

that level is literally like Malcador tier, the same guy that hid a planet in the warp lol

[shadow plover]

also Ravenor lore being like 20 years old so the power creep is real

[rocky gale]

Yea Alpha+ is literally the Emperor, so it's Abnett just casually saying "Yea my OC is actually as strong as the Emperor"

[dusk patrol]

The Emperor isn’t relevant to the chart

[rocky gale]

The Emperor is directly mentioned on the chart

[dusk patrol]

Alpha+ is more Malcador maybe, and even he’s beyond that probably, Magnus and the Emperor aren’t even worth bringing into it

They’re so beyond everyone else

[dusk patrol]

Yes and I’m still saying it’s not a relevant comparison, he’s so beyond any Alpha+ psyker that has existed. He’s not even comparable to the second most powerful psyker.

[shadow plover]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Assignment#fn_1

[dusk patrol]

Technically yes Alpha+ level in the same way the sun is technically on the “hotter than your stove” chart.

[shadow plover]

this list goes beyond alpha plus at least

[celest dome]

Now yes but that isn't old

[dusk patrol]

It’s worth noting to the psyker power level thing is fairly old lore and GW doesn’t seem to like using it much at all these days

[celest dome]

Before it was Alpha + and nothing more, now + is an inverse scale

[rocky gale]

Pretty sure they mention the grades in Witchbringer

[celest dome]

So Beta + is higher than Alpha +

While Alpha is higher than Beta

[dusk patrol]

They bring it up sometimes but in general

And the Emperor and other peak psykers have always been fairly irrelevant to the charts.

Especially when Alpha level psykers alone are absurdly rare let alone how rare Alpha+ are.

[storm jungle]

Okay but Alpha/+ are literally psykers whos powers are "whatever the plot allows, they are OP"

so theres literally no point to argue about anything

so yes Abnett wasnt aware of what he was writing, it happens

[storm jungle]

Also just because its not used much doesnt really negate its existence, since the entire point of the board is a broad/general way to assign someones grade, its not suppose to be concrete, doesnt make it any less relevant.

[dusk patrol]

I can’t even recall Alpha+ showing up in books much besides Abnett books

Where he has “Alpha+” psykers.

[storm jungle]

Yet it exists

so you know

[storm jungle]

also they appear here and there in Inquisition background books

stuff like the Burning Princess or the Apex Twins

who are outright said to be alpha plus

half-sure lexi has a page on one of them iirc

[dusk patrol]

The point is they’re textbook off the charts, just because they technically would be whatever the highest tier is doesn’t really matter when no one is close to Magnus besides Big E and Magnus isn’t close to him.

[storm jungle]

Who cares about them

we're talking about psykers

[dusk patrol]

That’s what was being discussed

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Pay attention nerd

[storm jungle]

Why even argue over psyker characters who are basically mary sues abilities wise.

[dusk patrol]

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

I will say one thing I do wish GW would enforce more is some goddamn consistency on psykers and how powerful they are cause fuck me is it annoying having one book where Ahriman is borderline a lil bitch half the time and then you cut to Mephiston stopping a whole battlefield or some random ass rogue chaos psyker wrecking havoc.

Like I get there’s always some stuff but fuck

I feel like it’s not even that hard to do

[storm jungle]

Its just comic book shit

you learn to stop caring

"IM REED RICHARDS, THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD"

dies

[dusk patrol]

Comic books are more consistent than this

[storm jungle]

No they arent

believe me

💀

[dusk patrol]

As dumb as they get

[queen laurel]

me watching banner ruin his relationship with hulk yet again

[dusk patrol]

Or it’s just a different version of a character.

[queen laurel]

and cause a war

[storm jungle]

To quote Stan the Man

"Whoever is gonna win is decided by whos writing the story."

this entirely applies to 40k in any novel or codex etc

the Emperor literally dies like 8 times fighting Horus because we gotta show hes OP

then he gets his ass kicked because mcguffin

its fine

[dusk patrol]

Sure but that has nothing to do with being consistent

[storm jungle]

I mean it does tho

[dusk patrol]

It’s just a lack of editorial care

[storm jungle]

If you stayed consistent a matchup would have an obvious outcome

[storm jungle]

Its not.

The editors just dont care either

they got important things to edit

like um

[dusk patrol]

Yes like I said

[storm jungle]

making sure nobody says "fuck"

god forbid

[dusk patrol]

A lack of editorial care

[storm jungle]

you lack some editorial care

ONCE I SHOVE MY FIST UP YOUR-

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fly-fly-cat-gif-23967129

[dusk patrol]

I’m gonna edit my foot into your butt

[storm jungle]

AA-

But yeah like i legit do not care after awhile

i get that it sucks and i agree

but im 31, i got better things to be mad about

sometimes

[dusk patrol]

I mean I mostly just ignore the dumb stuff but it’s still annoying

Psykers are generally kinda boring to me in most books

I wish they weren’t though

[storm jungle]

Theres a reason they got like 2 books in 30 years

discounting Ahriman since hes Ahriman

"Im gonna find a cure for the rubric!"

me 4 books in

"Yeah sure pal"

[dusk patrol]

Hey he’s getting a 5th

5th times the charm

[storm jungle]

GOD

[queen laurel]

idiot walks in to chat

[outer wave]

I think they should have a whole book series with Ahriman finding the cure to Rubicism a la One Piece

40+novels

He keeps going on side adventures

[dusk patrol]

Well they’re on their way to that

[outer wave]

150 year skip where he comes back even stronger and vastly different from what he was before

[storm jungle]

Ahriman is strangely popular

I read his books and liked them but that was kind of it lol

[outer wave]

He seems like a swell guy

[storm jungle]

Also cool design

and nipple armor

[dusk patrol]

He’s got a good look yeah

[outer wave]

I guess people like his whole journey and yeah nipple armor

[dusk patrol]

Lots of cool art

All his book covers are bangers

Like legit that was why I bought his books back in the day

The books are pretty good but young me was interested in “this shit looks cool”

[storm jungle]

^

The stories confused me a bit until i gave them a re-read years later.

I fucking hate when 40k does the "this person existed in the future and his past self caused this event" shit

but still not too bad

[green loom]

Reading the fantasy wiki for ironbreakers
"The dwarfs have barricaded intrusive tunnels, they call upon the iron breakers to protect the least visited, deepest ones"
"The dwarfs have barricaded intrusive tunnels, they call upon the iron breakers to protect the least visited, deepest ones"
"The dwarfs have barricaded intrusive tunnels, they call upon the iron breakers to protect the least visited, deepest ones"

[outer wave]

Doesnt sound like you're much of a fan of time travelling stories then

[storm jungle]

IT DEPENDS

[outer wave]

GO on

[storm jungle]

I mostly dont mind it unless it gets into like real bullshit ala Endgame

[tough haven]

And we can have that, fanboys would get upset

“If everyone can’t beat everyone, what’s the point?”

[storm jungle]

just like real life

I should be able to beat Mike Tyson with a good writer

[outer wave]

I mean Mike Tyson is aging

You can just train right now

[queen laurel]

logan paul should take notes

[dusk patrol]

Jake Paul nerd

[tough haven]

Damn, how good can your writer fight

[celest dome]

Everyone has a plan till they get hit in the mouth with a typewriter

[storm jungle]

LMAO

you literally can kill someone with a typewriter so checks out

[celest dome]

I think me with a typewriter would still be decked out round 1 by Tyson

[dusk patrol]

One of the Paul brothers has fake scripted fights with predetermined outcomes ahead of time. And the other Logan Paul works for WWE.

[tough haven]

Probably

[celest dome]

Very likely

[storm jungle]

No justice 💀

[queen laurel]

I don't really differentiate the both of them because both of them are idiots

[storm jungle]

i forgot there was two of them

[queen laurel]

two pauls too much in this planet

[storm jungle]

its every bro with that disney channel imperial flow

[tough haven]

I love how the fights will be like “alright, you’re gonna fight this legendary boxer, but he can’t do 80% of what he can do to you, sound fair? Alright.”

[dusk patrol]

True but I will admit Logan is very good at pro wrestling.

Frustratingly so

[tough haven]

Two halves of the same dumbass

[queen laurel]

The Dumbass coin

[outer wave]

At least one brother actually does stuff with his life and isnt just a scammer

[queen laurel]

do you have any idea how little that narrows it down

[outer wave]

Yeah its a pretty slim margin

[dusk patrol]

My favorite Logan Paul joke is “like many WWE stars his most famous earlier work was in Japan”

[storm jungle]

lmao

[queen laurel]

immediately kicking the dead body

classic

[storm jungle]

actual sociopath tbh

[queen laurel]

What sane human being would look at a dead body and go

let's record that

[outer wave]

Yeah that whole thing was awful

[storm jungle]

Anything for clout

[queen laurel]

the newest slayer cult the clout chasers

[outer wave]

Dwarfs that actively try to shame themselves by making videos of them doing shameful things

"Hey lets stop that Slayer from killing himself in battle."

[storm jungle]

christ lmao

[green loom]

It's so slayer
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859540777394110474/1247565682472783954/image.png?ex=66607d95&is=665f2c15&hm=0f84394cca7d8315e11e4e28dc469473637bfba3426ac834cc73ab8e6e5a6008&

[outer wave]

Like the shading on the helmet

[queen laurel]

OK you just gave me an idea

@storm jungle give this guy a slayer hairdo

[outer wave]

LMAO

[rocky gale]

Imagine if XQC got a low Slayer fade

[queen laurel]

now i've seen it all

[crisp heath]

the game's supposed to be a rip snorting good time too

[celest dome]

It is

[vapid stone]

I'm not a huge tau fan so if you are I'm sorry if this upsets you

but if GW makes proper gue'vesa and give them rules, I think they should be melee troops

[celest dome]

There's already the Kroot

[vapid stone]

if you look at it from the tau perspective, they seem themselves as the default, and they seldom use melee. Therefore, from their perspective humans seem like a more melee focussed species since humans are usually less effective at range than tau and also more prone to use melee weapons

[vapid stone]

true but kroot are also kind of like skirmishers and stuff

trackers and hunters

[storm jungle]

Not really

[celest dome]

Kroot are better in melee than normal humans

[storm jungle]

Kroot entirely jump into melee to bite and tear off limbs

[vapid stone]

yeah true

fair enough

[celest dome]

Guevesa tbh really should either be like GSC Broodbrother thingy

[storm jungle]

I get what you are saying though no offense obvs

[celest dome]

So basically just an IG regiment you can get as a additinal thingy, forgot the name

[vapid stone]

upgrade sprue

[storm jungle]

god if only

[vapid stone]

idk, i feel like the brood brothers are already a bit unoriginal

[storm jungle]

how so

[vapid stone]

imperial guard but with extra bits

literally

[storm jungle]

Well yeah because they are infected guard

[vapid stone]

true

[celest dome]

Kinda what they're supposed to represent

[vapid stone]

but I feel like tau would actually outfit the gue'vesa in their own armour

[storm jungle]

Well they do

its more that GW doesnt bother with showing it

[vapid stone]

true

[celest dome]

In that case, just use human heads and legs with Tau chest pieces

[vapid stone]

I mean GW doesn't have a model of Gue'seva

[vapid stone]

even then

I feel like it'd be cool if they were a specialised troop

[celest dome]

Tbh the setting is already so human centric that i'd prefer it to not be the case

[vapid stone]

not like elite

I mean fill a specific role rather than just frontline infantry

[arctic talon]

Tau did have proxies for them

er

GW

rather

its in the 4e tau codex

they had kitbashes for Gue'vesa

[wraith quartz]

(wakes up in agony from sedation) Agggh, right that was a considerable recess from our discussion, but Mr @tough haven sir I still have more questions to ask of...

[green loom]

Elite you know anyone with the Tau dex

[celest dome]

Maybe Elite has the Codex 🍿

[dusk patrol]

Based off the lore I see spouted Elite likely knows more about Tau than most Tau fans

By virtue of being able to read

[arctic talon]

I have PDFs of it

I think

@green loom @celest dome

[green loom]

What Kroot units do they have

[arctic talon]

Oh like

10e?

the uh Kroot shapers, the kroot sniper, Carnivores, the uh dogs and the 2 krootox

[green loom]

No gnarloc or whatever?

[arctic talon]

they're in legends

[queen laurel]

of course

[arctic talon]

they were a forgeworld unit

[arctic talon]

they've been out of production for years unless you'd rather GW just not have rules for them anymore

lol

[green loom]

So basically just the new models yeah?

"just"

[arctic talon]

the kroot killteam as well

[arctic talon]

well yeah

all the kroot kits got updated + kroot got like

4 new units lol

[green loom]

Hence "just"

Thanks tho, trying to help out a dude who's impatient

[tough haven]

What do you wish to know?

Anyone know anyone here with the ork codex? I just wanna see if there’s any lore in it

[queen laurel]

you're going to have to wait a while because it's a very new codex

[tough haven]

Damn

Bro I can’t wait for Mechanicus 2

No release date though 😦

[wraith quartz]

Nvrmind I don't have time for it rn.

[vapid stone]

question

does anyone think hellguns and hot shot lasguns are different

[dusk patrol]

They are different

Although there’s some crossover the main difference is fire rate, as you would think

The volleygun is designed with better heat sinks to allow it to fire more rapidly

[arctic talon]

different in universe, end up with the same result

[vapid stone]

I believe volleygun is seperate from both

[vapid stone]

in the siege of vraks it's said that hellguns are another name for hot shot lasguns

[arctic talon]

It’s a hotshot volleygun

[arctic talon]

And in other places it’s said a Hellgun is it’s own thing

Either way GW can’t decide

[vapid stone]

typical GW

[arctic talon]

But the end result is you can punch through thicker armor

If you want the funny answer I have

[vapid stone]

and hellguns have a higher rate of fire

[arctic talon]

Hotshot is the actual name of the weapons

Hellgun is what people with them call it

[vapid stone]

that's my head canon

hellgun is a nickname

hot shot lasgun is the official term

[winter vessel]

Hotgun

[dusk patrol]

It’s fairly interchangeable but hotshot is also stuff like modified power packs

For use on normal las guns

Volleyguns main thing is the rate of fire

[arctic talon]

Yeah they fire a lot of Las

[dusk patrol]

Basically always with a power backpack

[vapid stone]

yeah long las guns use hotshot

[winter vessel]

Do they have a reduced damage output. Or is it the same?

[viral halo]

I LOVE in the books when weapons randomly become more powerful than usual

[vapid stone]

it's the same ammo

[storm jungle]

Its also another case of authors not paying attention and mixing shit up.

[viral halo]

The only weapon I've seen representend consistently as being deadly to everything is melta and plasma

[vapid stone]

as far as I can tell a volley gun is a twin linked hotshut lasgun

[arctic talon]

Hotshot lasguns big thing is armor penetration

[vapid stone]

so you're basically firing two of the same gun

[arctic talon]

Hot shot volleygun has a unique barrel and appearance

It isn’t twin linked

[storm jungle]

This is a hellgun

[vapid stone]

based on the barrel it has 2 barrels

[storm jungle]

This is a hotshot

they got 1 barrel

[vapid stone]

we're talking about volley guns

[storm jungle]

same thing

[vapid stone]

uh

might want to check the label

[arctic talon]

The volleygun alternates barrels I’d assume

[vapid stone]

"hellgun"

[arctic talon]

That isn’t what twinlinked means

[winter vessel]

The variants and naming with lasguns are so fucked

[arctic talon]

Twinlinked means both fire at once

[storm jungle]

They are basically the same thing lol

it literally does not matter

they shoot a lot of las-shots

[arctic talon]

It’s like how the csm reaper auto cannon works

[storm jungle]

thats it

[arctic talon]

Imo

[vapid stone]

"What does twin-linked do?
This system allows the linked weapons to be fired in tandem, increasing their destructive powe"

[vapid stone]

I agree

[arctic talon]

You get a higher rate of fire by alternating the shots

Instead of firing both barrels at once

[vapid stone]

in tandem means alternating

one after the other

[arctic talon]

I might be mentally deficient

💀

[dusk patrol]

Hellguns and hotshots both basically just mean the same amount of firepower it’s just

1. GW had this weird period where they didn’t wanna use Hellgun but that’s over

2. Hotshot sometimes refers to overcharged lasgun cells which fire off their whole charge in one shot for more power

Volley gun is a separate thing for just firing a lot of shots

[storm jungle]

Whos gonna tell him

damn, edited

but yeah its just a inconsistent topic due to author fuckups

[vapid stone]

So it seems like

hot shot is a type of ammunition

hellguns use hot shot

hence why they're called hot shot las guns

[radiant lance]

We use the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet per bullet

[dusk patrol]

Generally volleyguns are stormtrooper’s equivalent guns which are hellgun level in lower

[vapid stone]

but long lasguns use hot shot too

[dusk patrol]

Some do

[celest dome]

Same thing different editions

[dusk patrol]

Not all

[storm jungle]

the word "hell" doesnt even read like a word to me anymore

[dusk patrol]

Not to be confused with the Space Wolf special flamers the Helguns

[storm jungle]

SHUT.

[radiant lance]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_satiation

[celest dome]

Dilara, how many people are in a Steam Tank would you wager ?

[radiant lance]

Hell hell hell hell hell hell hell hell hell hell

[storm jungle]

Im pretty sure it had a crew of like 4

[celest dome]

Nice, was hesitating on 4-5

[storm jungle]

Yeah because its already extremely cramped

[dusk patrol]

It can also be substituted for one very exuberant Saltzpyre

https://tenor.com/view/steam-tank-charge-warhammer-warhammer-fantasy-steam-gif-16598201

[spring cairn]

ah the old steamtank, back when it would struggle to push thru goblins

[vapid stone]

volley guns are a hellgun is LMG form

storm troopers (also known as tempestus scions 🤓 ) use both guns

[dusk patrol]

Idk why you’re saying that like I said anything to contradict it

[storm jungle]

Stormtroopers =/= Scions

thats another huge can of worms

and entirely spawns from GW wanting to copyright stuff

[dusk patrol]

I was just throwing in the whole stormtrooper equivalent category

[arctic talon]

Mfw we have 3 flavors now

[queen laurel]

PAULDRONS

[dusk patrol]

Kasrkin, Grenadiers, Scions, the lot

[vapid stone]

you did you said volley guns are equivalent guns but lower

[arctic talon]

Regimental, Tempestus Scions and Inquisitorial

[vapid stone]

unless i'm misunderstanding you

[arctic talon]

Tempestus Scions can also end up as inqusitorial storm troopers

[vapid stone]

which tbh this entire discussion is just saying different shit

[storm jungle]

stormtroopers are basically a regiment's hellgun using elite troops or serve as Inquisition goons yeah, they just barely have any showcase

[arctic talon]

Well

Kasrkin

[storm jungle]

our literal only example is kasrkin

[arctic talon]

Are stormtroopers

[storm jungle]

yes

I KNOW

[arctic talon]

GW still sells grenadiers

[storm jungle]

YOU FUCKING-

[arctic talon]

[dusk patrol]

Dilara Catachan Devils

You didn’t mention them

[arctic talon]

They don’t have a mini

[celest dome]

Krieg Grenadier

[arctic talon]

Tbf

[vapid stone]

what's the steel legion storm troopers

[dusk patrol]

Dilara Krieg Grenadiers

[storm jungle]

Because FUCK EM

[arctic talon]

They don’t have a unique name

[vapid stone]

cringe

[arctic talon]

They’re just referred to as storm troopers

Which is

[storm jungle]

They exist but yeah we never see em

[arctic talon]

Fitting

Considering you know

[dusk patrol]

The Ork Hunters are a separate thing

[storm jungle]

minus like 1 book

[arctic talon]

Armageddon

Is uh

[storm jungle]

yeah ork hunters are a regimental unit

[arctic talon]

Incredibly german themed for their regiment

[dusk patrol]

Also Steel Legion in general is pretty elite and well equip overall too

[celest dome]

Dilara Ork Hunter

[vapid stone]

I swear they don't have flak armour

[celest dome]

Steel Legion also has storm trooper but I don't remember their name, i think it's cause it's a normal name

[storm jungle]

they dont have a name

the ones in the book are just referred to as "stormtroopers"

💀

[vapid stone]

sounds about right

[storm jungle]

but also the general issue is GW never bothers to really flesh out stormtroopers in the guard

[vapid stone]

which seems dumb

[storm jungle]

so they are more or less a footnote minus like krieg and kasrkin

[dusk patrol]

You know what would be a good name for the Steel Legions dudes? The Steel Stormtroopers.

[vapid stone]

i do wonder

[dusk patrol]

And for short we could call them

[vapid stone]

I know scions go to the schola progenitum

do kasrkins and krieg grenadiers go too

or just the scions

[vapid stone]

yarrick's yappers

[celest dome]

Might be why I forgot their name

[arctic talon]

Just scions

[queen laurel]

The amount of named stuff in the imperium has from all of its factions gets annoying to track at times

[arctic talon]

Tempestus scions are not even part of the militarum(technically)

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[vapid stone]

yeah

[queen laurel]

Like they could be literally doing the same thing but in a different faction

[vapid stone]

they're a seperate branch

[dusk patrol]

Stormtroopers are notable for being homegrown

Scions are not

[arctic talon]

Scions got that child soldier dog in them

[vapid stone]

do you think they're similar skill level

[arctic talon]

Yes regarding the best

[dusk patrol]

Some are

It depends

Kasrkin definitely

[storm jungle]

Scions are an entirely upper-elite branch, they are extremely uniformed and dont have deviations aside from different color schemes and titles, otherwise aside from that they all look the same.

Stormtroopers meanwhile as we said are just a big enough regiment's hotshot equipped elite troops with their own regimental drip + cultural touches.

[dusk patrol]

Catachan Devils too

Elysians

Scions are just the standard

[arctic talon]

Grenadiers are explicitly worse then scions

But there’s more of them

[storm jungle]

their history is muddled because it entirely spawned from GW removing the term stormtrooper from the wider tabletop

mostly because star wars

lol

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Yep

[dusk patrol]

I like their addition though overall

[storm jungle]

Yeah same it works

[dusk patrol]

They got a cool look and deal

And the whole issues of them being disliked vs the homegrown stormtroopers is fun

[storm jungle]

guardsmen referring to them as "toy soldiers" is good shit

[vapid stone]

on one hand scions are trained at the same school as commissars, sisters of battle etc but I would assume in order to be a regimental stormtrooper/grenadier/insert-preferred-pronoun you need combat experience

[arctic talon]

They do get combat expierence

They get shot at

And killed lol as kids

[vapid stone]

oh yeah

it's the 40k

[snow fern]

The schola progenum is not a great time

[dusk patrol]

Also their berets canonically are lined with flak

[queen laurel]

And if that don't work bring in the captured tyranids

[dusk patrol]

And I love that

[vapid stone]

I forgot that the schola progenium actively encourages school shootings

[storm jungle]

thank you RPG supplements for letting us know such lore

[arctic talon]

There’s a climbing course where they’re shot at the entire time

And have to return fire

[storm jungle]

LOL

[arctic talon]

And if they’re too slow they just get shot to death lol

[storm jungle]

what was the quote

"Snitches get rewards..."

[queen laurel]

America doesn't even need to do it and it they still do it so they are definitely more efficient

[arctic talon]

Also the uh

One schola who uh

Cemented unruly students into the wall

[snow fern]

Like Matilda?

[vapid stone]

did they let them out?

[queen laurel]

Wait scions are failed students of the schola right

[vapid stone]

no

[queen laurel]

If i'm remembering correctly

[arctic talon]

No, they left their bodies there as an example

[arctic talon]

No

[queen laurel]

Or is that a different unit

[vapid stone]

ah

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/matilda-trunchbull-rolling-gif-7823204

[arctic talon]

They just don’t qualify for anything else

[vapid stone]

failed students of the schola are called corpses

[arctic talon]

^

You die if you fail

[storm jungle]

hey just like IRL medical school

9 years of studying

if you fail OH WELL

[queen laurel]

Organ trafficking

[dusk patrol]

The Drill Abbots watch the kids closely and assign them based off that

[arctic talon]

Either way the schola progenium is terrible lol

[dusk patrol]

A lot of their roles aren’t even combat related

[queen laurel]

It's a system made by the imperium

It's absolutely s***

[arctic talon]

Lots of scribes

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

Which is why you don’t see many small scions or Commissars

[vapid stone]

if the schola was an american highschool the scions are the ones who got all Ds and the highschool would rather give them a diploma and get rid of them than keep them another year

[dusk patrol]

The physically unable died or went to a different career

[storm jungle]

mfw when my class teacher has a hammer hes gonna use to bash my skull in if i get the 2+2= question wrong

[vapid stone]

inquisitors are basically the valedictorian

[celest dome]

Not really

[vapid stone]

I am surprised I spelt valedictorian right the first time

[celest dome]

Commissars are

[arctic talon]

Inqusitors are uh

Picked from the bunch

[celest dome]

Inquisitor are more like Internships

[vapid stone]

feel like inquisitors are the very top

[dusk patrol]

Mfw it’s been three days since I’ve gotten to clobber a kid cause the little shits keep getting all the questions correct

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

Ponzi Scheme Inquisitor (Apprentissage would be a good way to qualify it)

[vapid stone]

drop outs who ended up doing better than everyone else who graduated

[arctic talon]

They get picked out after graduation

Opposite of assasinorum kids

[dusk patrol]

Commissars are generally the more exemplary students for combat related stuff yes

And charismatic ones

[storm jungle]

One of their tests is literally shooting students yeah

[vapid stone]

don't think combat

[storm jungle]

or people the tutors say are "traitors"

for uh Trust Building

[vapid stone]

commissars don't need to be good fighters (it helps a lot though)

[dusk patrol]

Commissars are all basically scion level

[vapid stone]

yeah

[dusk patrol]

Yes they do

[vapid stone]

but scions are the minimal level

in the schola

[dusk patrol]

Not really

[arctic talon]

Scribes

[dusk patrol]

They’re the basic combat dudes

[vapid stone]

forgot scribes

do scribes go to the schola?

[dusk patrol]

A lot of non combat roles do

[vapid stone]

Codex Imperialis says scribes are usually descended from a long line of slaves

[dusk patrol]

It’s also noted that the Ultramarines and likely other chapters will poach promising candidates from scion training classes

[vapid stone]

of course the ultramarines do

[dusk patrol]

Very few kids actually go to the Schola Progenium

[storm jungle]

Scribes come from anywhere. Mostly normal society slave families.

[dusk patrol]

Those that make it generally are off on a good foot

Or better than most orphans

Sisters of Battle also draw from the Progenium

[vapid stone]

well yeah if you can survive at worst you either become a sister of battle or tempestus scion

at best

inquisitor

actually no scratch that

at worst imperial assassin

[dusk patrol]

It branches out to a lot of places, it’s basically just a school for orphaned kids of officers which theoretically puts them in the best role suited to them

[dusk patrol]

Imperial Assassin’s are gonna be taking only the best

[vapid stone]

I meant in terms of what's best for the student

[dusk patrol]

You’re also limiting what the Progenium is

[snow fern]

How does one even qualify to be an Eversor?

[dusk patrol]

It’s not just a combat school

[vapid stone]

I know

[dusk patrol]

They draw from serial killers

[vapid stone]

it also teaches imperial navy officers

[dusk patrol]

Psychopaths

[storm jungle]

Inquisitors come from everywhere, when you "graduate" you arent even a full-blown Inquisitor, you are just a pipsqueak for an actual Inqman™️

[dusk patrol]

Among other things

[vapid stone]

and all members of the sororitas which includes the hospitallers

[dusk patrol]

The Assassin temples like the Inquisition often find their own dudes

You don’t really apply

You get told you’re doing this now

[storm jungle]

yeah and its ALWAYS handpicking

[vapid stone]

you ever have one of those kids in your class with special needs that go berserk everyone now and again?

them

[storm jungle]

holy shit me

[vapid stone]

(it's ok I was one of those kids)

[storm jungle]

[snow fern]

Yah there are “non combat” sisters of battle. Although miss Hospitaler’s still got her bolt pistol

[vapid stone]

https://tenor.com/view/mood-kindred-ultra-comfort-and-support-ciaphas-cain-40k-tts-bruva-alfabusa-gif-27205848

[snow fern]

Mood kindred

[vapid stone]

MOOD KINDRED

[storm jungle]

I LOVE violent fantasies during class

I LOVE fantasizing tearing up exam papers and burning my desk

YOU ARE NEXT MR PRINCIPAL

[dusk patrol]

I always day dreamed at work that someone would try to rob us

[vapid stone]

everyone does that

[queen laurel]

Did I trip on mushrooms

[storm jungle]

so you get to shoot them?

[vapid stone]

it's a universal thing

[dusk patrol]

Uh no I’d beat them up in a really cool way

[vapid stone]

apparently it's a natural survival thing

[snow fern]

A robbery would break up the monotony, and basically end the work day early

[dusk patrol]

And then execute them

[vapid stone]

you plan for something terrible to happen and then think about how you'd save the day

[dusk patrol]

with prejudice

[queen laurel]

The times i've had fantasy of pulling the spine of someone out like a predator is

Wl

Wel

Quite a lot

[storm jungle]

[vapid stone]

you guys are fucking weird

[snow fern]

Warhammer fans kinda have to be

[vapid stone]

I fantasise about a school shooter and then I wrestle the gun off and my crush kisses me and everyone claps

[queen laurel]

I will shove you into a human turducken how about that

[vapid stone]

I don't rip out his fucking spine with racism

[storm jungle]

peak Eren Jaeger

[dusk patrol]

But yes the noted origin of an Eversor is he was a kid who killed everyone on his asteroid colony before he was ten

[vapid stone]

Eren Jaeger would be the school shooter let's be honest