#40k-lore-chat

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green loom
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Dunno

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Announcer dude just dropped that they'll be playable

winter vessel
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I notice one of them seems to wear the Mark X phobos armor, I only say because their right pauldron is smaller than the left and it looked more streamlined compared to the other two.

green loom
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One of them is in Gravis too

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It also seems like there will be multiple characters in the campaign

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Since you'll be able to play as Captain Talasa

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(Titus' boss)

winter vessel
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sweet, I can play as a Reiver

green loom
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Ah hell yeah look who's back

queen laurel
tough haven
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I also hope for it to be more randomized in missions so it has replayability

queen laurel
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I think

green loom
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Yeah

queen laurel
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I remember that

arctic talon
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she might be a full on priest now in this game

queen laurel
arctic talon
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regarding Kehpra

green loom
celest dome
arctic talon
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she wasn't an actual priest

spring cairn
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sm2's looking good in those trailers

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still on the fence about it tho

winter vessel
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It'll probably be my only biggest buy this year for games

green loom
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Oh damn

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They're not disappointing on the customization front

spring cairn
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lot's of the cool shit is in prenium versions tho

crystal forum
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can you basically wear mk 3 armour

spring cairn
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i hope there's a balance between the paid stuff and the in game

crystal forum
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thank the emp i got a brand spanking new PC

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i can play max settings

storm jungle
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lmao "3 days early"

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how about you eat my donglitz

winter vessel
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boingloings

dusk patrol
celest dome
dusk patrol
storm jungle
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YOU MOTHERFUCKING

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DING DONG

dusk patrol
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Well yeah but goofs buy it early so we get a 20 dollar discount

storm jungle
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bastard

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also do love that when you destroy Rubrics they burst into cocaine

dusk patrol
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Curious if the MP/Horde mode will be any good

storm jungle
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Probably passable

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i reckon they put most hands onto singleplayer

dusk patrol
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Enough to satisfy me

winter vessel
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looking forward to the arsenal we get to use

spring cairn
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i expect little tbh

storm jungle
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spoken like my dad

spring cairn
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so if it truns out peak

dusk patrol
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I don’t need much tbh

spring cairn
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i'll be actually happy

dusk patrol
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Especially if I can make my dude an Iron Hand lol

storm jungle
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You make your dude an Iron Hand
Devs forgot making their hands bionic

gray umbra
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Iron hands

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Fleshy grippers

dusk patrol
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Tbh with the customization they’ve shown I do expect they’ll have that

storm jungle
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Robert Downy Junior Hands...

winter vessel
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It's a shame Mark Strong isn't returning to Voice act Titus, I liked him in the first game

dusk patrol
dusk patrol
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Take off your shoes

storm jungle
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Titus' VA in this so bad

dusk patrol
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I wanna see those grippers

storm jungle
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the moment the marine next to him speaks

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you can see the acting range

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lmao

arctic talon
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Titus's new VA

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fucking blows

storm jungle
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Like hes not even good is my issue, i dont mind a voice actor swap

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also Mark Strong was just gigachad as fuck

arctic talon
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They already sound worse compared to the other VAs we've heard

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is the issue lol

dusk patrol
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Yeah we’ll see how he is through the game but it’s not great sadly

storm jungle
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LOL

arctic talon
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maybe they'll sound better in other scenes

storm jungle
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yeah heres hoping

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when your sidekicks outdo you in VA department you know its not great

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lmao

winter vessel
spring cairn
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i'll make a mod to have a mute protag like back in the days

storm jungle
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sick shit

dusk patrol
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So it does seem they’re going hard for whatever the MP is

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We’ll see how it ends up

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Also…..

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if only there was in universe terms

storm jungle
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it makes sense

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like

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this game is 80% marketing

dusk patrol
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for these things

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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I get it cause you don’t wanna confuse people but

storm jungle
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honestly better call imo, Primaris names are braindead-tier

dusk patrol
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Heavy marine? What’s that?

storm jungle
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Im gonna Eliminecessor your Legcessors

dusk patrol
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Devastator is all I know

winter vessel
spring cairn
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everytime i read bulwark i just hear the darktide character's voice calling out a tagged bulwark

storm jungle
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LMAO

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im glad im not alone on this

spring cairn
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and for some reasons, it's the savant psyker

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and i don't even have one

storm jungle
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i was watching Xmen 97 last week and whenever someone mentions "mutant" my brain is just going:

"HUARGHHHHHHH-"

dusk patrol
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God if they let us pick the chapter for the marine it’s gonna look so funny in MP

storm jungle
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some kind of

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Suicide Squad?

winter vessel
dusk patrol
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That’s why I just do Deathwatch

winter vessel
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no one is surviving

storm jungle
# winter vessel no one is surviving

god if the Chapter you picked did like some "team perks" or something that would be great, if someone is running a Lamenter you just end up dying to the dumbest shit 💀

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almost like Halo Skulls

green loom
winter vessel
dusk patrol
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Lamenter chapter perk is it brings up the screen and you choose a better chapter

storm jungle
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Join as Lamenter

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Gets votekicked

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lore accurate

vagrant narwhal
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Potential Canon for the 4 Combat Stimms
Green: Caffeine and/or Antibiotics
Red: Steroids
Blue: Meth and/or Adrenaline
Yellow: Adderall/Ritalin.

winter vessel
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I doubt the Crimson Fists will make the cut for appearance customization.

dusk patrol
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False

winter vessel
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shame

dusk patrol
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They’re all meth

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Just different food colorings

dusk patrol
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It’s so easy to do a ton of chapters

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For most it’s literally just a palate swap and the emblem change

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And some which are a little spicer you add some extra customization or sell it as cosmetics

storm jungle
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they are like uh

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really a mid-tier chapter but they arent by no means unknown

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the more Chapters they can slam in the more marketing you also get

dusk patrol
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They don’t deserve it but they are

storm jungle
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BRUH

dusk patrol
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They’re one of the original

dusk patrol
# storm jungle BRUH

Hey their gimmick is literally “we do last stands a lot and also kill Orks”

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Great look, lame execution

storm jungle
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And your gimmick is "we got iron hands and hate flesh"

dusk patrol
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Yes and that’s cool

storm jungle
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so how about you shut the FU-

storm jungle
winter vessel
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hmm, there's hope. Also i just had ideas for those "team perks" based on chapter choosing. Ultramarines can be called like "Macragge's Honor", Salamander's is like "Embers of Salvation"...but for the Lamenters it's just titled "Bitch"

dusk patrol
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I don’t know if they’ll do that

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But I fully expect most major chapters to be doable

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The original game had a good amount already and it’s so easy to do

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At least on a basic color palette level

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As for chapter specific bling and stuff, who knows for that

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I expect some stuff for Black Templar, Deathwatch and the other big four but other than that idk

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Maybe as dlc or micro transactions eventually if it really is that good and takes off

storm jungle
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Yeah i was mostly joking with team perks thing

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the Chapter you choose is very much gonna be cosmetic

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if it was like a bigger studio they deffo would go to the effort of giving them unique voice lines/battle-cries prob but like budget lol

dusk patrol
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There’s not a lack of different Mks and gear they can do as cosmetic rollouts

storm jungle
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Yeee like i legit do not doubt they'll do more cosmetic DLCs in the future

dusk patrol
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Beakies or riot

winter vessel
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Da beakies ,yes

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I’m really hoping we’ll get to fight more variants of the ‘nids

storm jungle
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We prob will but hard to tell

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they barely showed most in the first 3 trailers 💀

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this latest one is the most insight we got

gray umbra
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I want the vanguard armor so baaad

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The skinny jeans of power armor

winter vessel
dusk patrol
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Yeah I imagine it won’t be hard to make most chapters and CSM Warbands

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Customization seems very extensive

crystal forum
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where's gravis

storm jungle
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Under your bed

crystal forum
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thanks mom

winter vessel
# dusk patrol

Ah yes, as you can see, the Stinky boy is the furthest away cause he’s a slow greaseball.

soft thunder
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nah

dusk patrol
crystal forum
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terminator armour can suck my nards

green loom
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Buying this fr fr

crystal forum
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can you imagine a space marine using a gamer chair

winter vessel
wraith quartz
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Good day fellow "loyalists"... I mean "zealots"... I mean fellow brethren of humanity, it is I "loyal servant jy65-14", have come to give you a wonderful announcement!!

storm jungle
winter vessel
crystal forum
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i don't know inquisitor, this guy's been acting pretty sussy lately

wraith quartz
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Why thank you for the compliment "fanatic"... I mean "Disciple". But the news I've come to announce, is that I'm taking my part to "help" the Imperium, and join the grand vestige of the Astrum Militarum!

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But given how vast the Militarum Guard is; I only hope there's some articulate scriers than can answer my questions..

storm jungle
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Fire away

winter vessel
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whips out an atlas lets go

wraith quartz
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So the first firing piece....
When the guard was formed, was it during the beginning era of the Imperium or at the beginning of the dark era??

arctic talon
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Imperial Guard was formed after the heresy when the imperial army and navy got split in two

wraith quartz
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Hmmmm

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So there's like three branches in the Astrum Militarum.

wraith quartz
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Like: Navy, Marines, Air Force, and National Guard...

dusk patrol
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It’s gaming time boys

winter vessel
wraith quartz
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Mmmmh

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From what I briefly know of, the Militarum is a "Jack of all trades" in regards to Lore and table top pieces...

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Given the whole multiple sub-branches..

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Mmm, right...
Anyway, how does the chain of command work in the Militarum??

storm jungle
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Uh hold on

celest dome
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@green loom
Synopsis from the steam page:

After millennia of slumber, Vargard Nefershah mobilises her dynasty’s legions to annihilate the Adeptus Mechanicus interlopers who unknowingly settled upon her world. Across the galaxy, Magos Dominus Faustinius is summoned to bring his hard-won expertise to bear and ensure the Necrons do not succeed. The conflict soon becomes a crucible of unanticipated significance, drawing to it external actors stranger and more deadly still.

Two playable factions, two narrative campaigns, two highly unique play-styles and one important choice – who will you lead to victory in this arcane technological war of cold metal hatred?

storm jungle
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Militarum is the skull with wings on the right area

snow fern
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wtf is a white shield

storm jungle
storm jungle
snow fern
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oh

storm jungle
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KEK

arctic talon
celest dome
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Unpaid internship Guard

storm jungle
# storm jungle

@wraith quartz Keep in mind not EVERY guard regiment has this layout but they follow it roughly more or less.

winter vessel
snow fern
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fortress worlds are something

arctic talon
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GW should bring whiteshields back

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So I can tell 180 children to go run in and die

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On the tabletop

spring cairn
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skavenslaves vibe

wraith quartz
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Hmmm

winter vessel
arctic talon
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White shields being objectively better then conscripts was so funny

spring cairn
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everyday i pray for the well being of total war 40k

arctic talon
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They shot better and they could follow orders without an additional roll

storm jungle
storm jungle
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will go great with today's political climate

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KEK

arctic talon
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Whiteshields were around recently

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Is more so my joke lol

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They were in 9e

storm jungle
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lmao I know but explosions

arctic talon
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Human-bomb

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My favorite GW mini/j

storm jungle
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SUICIDE IS BADASS

wraith quartz
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So why did the army and the navy split apart from each other??

storm jungle
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Basically uh

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during 30k the entire issue was they were so connected

arctic talon
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why the fuck is Videx built like this

storm jungle
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that when they turn traitor

spring cairn
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i'm sure players of the time painted them in very cool and not awful ways

storm jungle
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you get MASSIVE armies loyal to horus

arctic talon
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I thought he was a fucking scrawny old man of a tech priest

storm jungle
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obviously this is not a great plan at all but thats the point, its dumb but mostly works

wraith quartz
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Ah

storm jungle
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but also increases the chance of now even MORE traitor elements which works with the Imperium being stupid lol

wraith quartz
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Well that seems counter intuitive...

storm jungle
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Yep like i said thats the point lol

green loom
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Welcome to warhammer

wraith quartz
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Ok in terms of warefare

spring cairn
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if there wasn't big misplays it would be boring

wraith quartz
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In both Table Top and Lore, how does the Militarum operate in regards to let's say Ork waaaaaargh brigade?

storm jungle
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The answer is Yes.

The Imperial Guard gets its regiments from any sort of planet that apply usually their culture into the way they do warfare. This is both an in-universe reason but also to allow you the player to be more free with homebrew abilities.

Its how you can have russian hussars fighting dark elves onboard a massive space station wreckage falling to orbit or 80's action movie vietnam veterans tussling it with doom daemons on a snowridden hellscape

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Any way they would fight against orks is different

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the general "consensus" is fight back hard enough and hope you can beat them and use a shit ton of artillery + burn their spores

winter vessel
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Munitions…lots of munitions.

storm jungle
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Or it can awfully backfire since orks realise you are fighting hard and that means this is a good fight thus attract more orks

arctic talon
wraith quartz
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What would be the best regiments against the Orks?

arctic talon
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You got the warboss and then Nobs

spring cairn
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nothing a earth shattering artillery barrage can't fix, orks are quite fond of blobbing up

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it's just how long can you keep the barrages going

storm jungle
queen laurel
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They can go from being dumb idiots to next thing you know being smarter than your commander

arctic talon
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Armageddon steel legion

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has a lot of fucking practice lol

snow fern
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In the name of Yarrick!!!

queen laurel
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Yeah they would be experts

spring cairn
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armageddon peak legion

queen laurel
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At this point

arctic talon
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but Armageddon is currently dealing with a case of half the planet is a fucking daemon planet

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and there's still Orks on it

snow fern
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Damnit Khorne

gray umbra
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Just send in sly marbo

storm jungle
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Yeah Armageddon is the most experienced due to Orks being mythically attracted to the planet itself, this is said in a book too

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like they NEED to invade Armageddon

queen laurel
gray umbra
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The plot demands it

wraith quartz
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Side note: what's your favorite Militarum faction and tell me a little bit about 'em

spring cairn
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demons do be bringing people together

arctic talon
winter vessel
queen laurel
arctic talon
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Oh also they look like chaos cultists as well

spring cairn
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they really don't look loyal

queen laurel
gray umbra
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I think the ig as a concept is cool

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I guess specifically the tanith?

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Camocloaks are cool af

arctic talon
spring cairn
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my favourite regiment is probably the elysian because what's cooler than space-paratroopers

arctic talon
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They’re clearly glorious loyalists

storm jungle
gray umbra
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Cigar chompin mfers

queen laurel
storm jungle
spring cairn
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and the vostroyan are very nice aswell

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all the artwork goes hard

wraith quartz
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Second side note: what was the first or oldest Militarum regiment to be founded

storm jungle
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We... dont know i dont think?

spring cairn
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i have a very bad case of i love every regiments

gray umbra
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The solar auxilia whatthefuck_heresy

storm jungle
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Oh right lol

spring cairn
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so cool...

storm jungle
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Solar Auxilia more like

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Not-so-Solar-Anymore-post-30k Auxilia

queen laurel
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Or something

storm jungle
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Nah just dissolved

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we dont know the details atm

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it will prob get covered in the Scouring series for 30k

gray umbra
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Speaking of 30k humies

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Does the imperium still do geno troopers

still spruce
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What does 40k mean in the 40k world

gray umbra
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I guess the cadians are basically the same thing

spring cairn
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because there's 40 thousand hammers

queen laurel
storm jungle
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If this isn't a serious question, what Lambda said

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🔨

still spruce
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It was a serious question but I will tell my girlfriend it was 40k hammers

storm jungle
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NOOO-

arctic talon
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LOL

storm jungle
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we lost another one lads

queen laurel
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Welp

spring cairn
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don't forget to say that horus stole 20 thousand hammers during the heresy

tough haven
arctic talon
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theres way more

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because Orks lol

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Tankhamma

wraith quartz
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Ok, given how vast the Militarum is, there's gotta be some faction that keeps them in check...

storm jungle
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COMMISSARS

wraith quartz
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Like an MP faction

gray umbra
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Commisars and i think the administratum?

tough haven
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Horus Heresy when I hit him with the legendary War Hammer, the 40,000th hammer crafted

tough haven
arctic talon
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Comissars are MP pretty much

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in a sense

tough haven
wraith quartz
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So the commissars' resides mostly with the administratum, and get summoned to keep a Militarum regiment in check or is it a little bit more to it...

gray umbra
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The administratum sometimes assigns a regiment to a paradise world accidentally

tough haven
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To make sure there’s no heresy, cowardice etc

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May be more than 1 depending on the size and regiment in question

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Chem dogs have a lot

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They’re always with their regiment usually

wraith quartz
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Ah

storm jungle
# wraith quartz So the commissars' resides mostly with the administratum, and get summoned to k...

Basically the Administratum is THE head administration department regarding logistics, they work closely with the Adeptus Munitorum (munitions) to get the guard what they need.

Commissars are trained in seperate branches called Schola Progenium where you are basically in a fascist boarding school, if you act zealous enough you got the chance of ending up as a commissar.

They are basically non-regimental personnel who got no tie to the regiment's culture or home but if they are charismatic enough can be accepted to be actually one of them, or just remain far away and act in tandem to something like a napeoleonic era officer, threatening penalties or executing trouble makers. They are mainly political officers there to ensure morale is kept and sometimes can have mini-commissr aides who are training under them.

wraith quartz
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Hmmm, mmmmh loregryn

tough haven
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Commissars also have the right to execute members of the command structure right? If they are found wanting or heretical?

arctic talon
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Yeah

storm jungle
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Yep with sufficient evidence

arctic talon
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but that usually doesn't happen

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emphesis on usually

wraith quartz
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Wait, what do you mean by "wanting"

tough haven
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They mostly exist outside the structure, correct

storm jungle
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If they do it outright it might get them in trouble or be passed under the table if you are a good commissar and they just take your word for it.

arctic talon
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MS.RAINE

arctic talon
tough haven
storm jungle
arctic talon
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^

queen laurel
wraith quartz
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Ooh

arctic talon
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could be you don't want to go into a meat grinder lol

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too bad

storm jungle
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Yeah that

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Commissars range from good commanders to just awful assholes

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who dont tend to last long

tough haven
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Usually get beaten to death by their regiment

arctic talon
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wdym

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it was an ork sniper

tough haven
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Looking at you catachan

storm jungle
winter vessel
tough haven
arctic talon
queen laurel
storm jungle
arctic talon
storm jungle
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YEP

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also sniper > machinegun with scope

arctic talon
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I love the fucking tracers lol

tough haven
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See, totally plausible

queen laurel
arctic talon
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The kommando snipa is more like someone with a machine gun

tough haven
arctic talon
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But he’s accurate for an ork

spring cairn
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he has a big goofy cartoon ironsight and a scope

tough haven
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Pretty much

arctic talon
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He hits on 3’s when “aiming”

wraith quartz
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Which regiment would have the most consistent unit mortality rate?

queen laurel
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Yeah Orks need their guns bare minimum to be semi automatic

arctic talon
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And 4’s when not

spring cairn
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that guy's hitting his shot twice as accurate

winter vessel
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“Sniping’s a good job you Git”

storm jungle
wraith quartz
arctic talon
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They are

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Death korps of krieg

spring cairn
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wouldn't a penal regiment have higher attrition rate ?

queen laurel
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Yeah the gas mask

tough haven
arctic talon
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But they aren’t proper regiments imo

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They don’t get treated like them

spring cairn
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i mean chemdogs are a penal regiment and everyone treats them like one

arctic talon
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Savlar Chemdogs aside

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They’re no longer a proper penal legion

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They don’t have bomb collars

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They get actual supplies

spring cairn
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cowards

arctic talon
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And human rights

tough haven
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Well they have gained sufficient noteriety

tough haven
arctic talon
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But the death korps are fans of sieges

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And attritional tactics

tough haven
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Does any imperial citizen really have human rights?

arctic talon
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They die a lot lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Yes

tough haven
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True

arctic talon
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By irl standards

queen laurel
tough haven
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“You only can get shot to death legally by 75% of people instead of 95%”

spring cairn
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but it's on a scale of, nothing to some

arctic talon
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Yeah

arctic talon
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Only get my arms torn off by an enforcer(this is a paradise world)

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Lol Shyish is being overwhelmed by the sheer number of dying skaven in AoS

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Which is pissing nagash off

queen laurel
queen laurel
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At this point i lost count

arctic talon
queen laurel
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i'm talking about how many times did the skaven as whole fucked nagash in some shape or form

wraith quartz
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Right, I have some understanding of pecking order of the Militarum...

What I want to know now is, how do they get their munitions and equipment (personal armaments and large mechanical equipment). And which faction is the most proficient in artillery/war machine, urban tactics, arieal war fare, trench warfare, offensive formations or defensive formations, and naval warfare by space or water.

arctic talon
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Like 3 times in AoS and like 5 in whf

queen laurel
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Jesus

arctic talon
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Prolly more in whf

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Counting endtimes shit

wraith quartz
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And also like skirmishes behind enemy lines... Like infiltration

queen laurel
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Don't even

arctic talon
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But in AoS they fucked with the necroquake, drained a sea in Shyish fucking with nagash and now the horde of dead rats

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Oh also the dead skaven are trying to kill everyone other undead in shyish

arctic talon
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As skaven tend to do

queen laurel
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Just the way they are

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Man they are fucked

arctic talon
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Mfw nagash being greedy for souls has horribly backfired

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Who could have seen this coming

storm jungle
queen laurel
arctic talon
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Lol

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Jokes aside it’s so bad in Shyish the Ossiarchs have drawn back their forces and started trying to fortify positions

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Against the undead tide of rats

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You know, the faction that was designed to invade other places is now on the defensive

queen laurel
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Can't the skeleton man just magic them or something

arctic talon
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But there are so many dying skaven

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In every single realm rn

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This is alongside normal people dying

queen laurel
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He can't Basically fix them all

arctic talon
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There are way more dead people then normal

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And then even more fucking dead skaven

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Nagash L

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He should stop trying to grab skaven souls

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Lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
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His greed has backfired so horrifically this time

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Lol

queen laurel
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There's nothing useful from it

arctic talon
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Well there are

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Raw soul stuff is good

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But not like this lol

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Not when your entire realm is being overwhelmed by a horde of chaos corrupted rat souls

arctic talon
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Oh also there’s a normal skaven inbastion as well

queen laurel
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Hmm man i wish i can play soulbound but i don't have friends

arctic talon
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Anyone who dies in Shyish goes into nagash’s funny collection unless they’re protected

wintry scarab
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God, space marine 2 multiplayer is exactly what i want it to be. On paper at least. I just hope its good.

arctic talon
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Do you see the horrific issue now

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There is no escape from the rats for Shyish

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Yeah

queen laurel
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Yeah i expected that

arctic talon
#

Shyish is a shithole on the level of Ghur now

wraith quartz
arctic talon
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Good job nagash

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I’m proud of you

wraith quartz
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Like how the korps are (in a blunt understanding) are proficient at throwing bodies at the enemy until they're dead

queen laurel
storm jungle
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A regiment is the primary organisational unit of the Imperial Guard, and of the Imperial Army ground forces before that. The size and composition of Imperial Guard regiments is not standardised across the Imperium; the number of individual Guardsmen alone can vary enormously between regiments, with some only a few hundred strong at founding-str...

storm jungle
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check this part out

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because like EVERY regiment has a "gimmick"

dusk patrol
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Cadians are the jack of all trades typically

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The baseline for most basic warfare

wraith quartz
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Hmmm

dusk patrol
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But in general there’s examples for most like Catachan still have tank regiments

arctic talon
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We never hear of the totally dogshit regiments generally

dusk patrol
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Steel Legion have stealth guys

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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There’s some variety within a lot

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Some less so

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Depends

arctic talon
wraith quartz
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Ok

dusk patrol
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Steel Legion is always gonna favor mechanized warfare for example

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But they still have very effective infantry and sneaky boys within their ranks

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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Some like Krieg are most specific and less versatile but most have a decent gamut

wraith quartz
#

Ok, so what's the usual personal armaments an standard infantry unit would get (besides the usual lasgun)

dusk patrol
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Lasgun

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Lasgun maybe some nades and stuff

arctic talon
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lasgun, bayonet

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grenades yeah

dusk patrol
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Flak jacket

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Basic kit

wraith quartz
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Hmmm loregryn

dusk patrol
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They’ll have specialists with stuff like flamers, plasma, bolters if needed

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Long las

wraith quartz
#

Right, in terms of the lasgun is it really a "glorified flashlight"

dusk patrol
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No

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It’s very effective

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It’s just we’re not hearing about the basic engagements where it’s fine

wraith quartz
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So like man vs man, it can kill 'em

crystal forum
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yes it can

dusk patrol
#

"The Legionnaire that scoffs at a lasgun has not charged across an open field against a hundred of them."
— Maor the Scarred, Siege-Champion of the Scargivers

arctic talon
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the lasgun is pretty fucking good lol

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against humans

dusk patrol
arctic talon
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smaller orks as well

wraith quartz
#

What about Man vs Tau, would it still be effective?

dusk patrol
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Yes

arctic talon
#

las guns can deal with tau armor

wraith quartz
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Hmmm

crystal forum
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anything can deal with tau armor

arctic talon
#

tau armor is pretty much just carapce armor

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yeah

dusk patrol
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Even battle suits aren’t that crazy armor wise

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They’re generally just agile

arctic talon
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the scary part of tau are their guns

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my god pulse rifles are

crystal forum
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they're the shooty scooty faction

arctic talon
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spicy

storm jungle
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Yeah all tau literally use plasma guns

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im sorry um "pulse"

crystal forum
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i'm sad i missed the guard questions

arctic talon
#

but lasguns can deal with carapace armor

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the point where lasguns start struggling is space marine tier armor

snow fern
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I thought tau was railguns

wraith quartz
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But an infantry unit can also use standard ballistics yea?

arctic talon
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or stuff like big orks

dusk patrol
arctic talon
dusk patrol
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Different guns

crystal forum
arctic talon
dusk patrol
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Pulse rifles are basically a different plasma gun

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Railguns are railguns

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They’re not as standard for Tau

crystal forum
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autoguns are usually reserved for shitty PDF regiments

arctic talon
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lower power but very stable compared to imperial plasma

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When it comes to more unstable tech the tau have uh ion weapons

crystal forum
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the thing with guard regiments is they're the peak of the militarum

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there's so much lower quality trash

dusk patrol
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There’s also a lot of different types of all these guns

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Some auto guns kick ass

crystal forum
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this is true

arctic talon
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manstopper rounds 🤤

dusk patrol
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Same with some lasguns being better or worse

snow fern
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PDF are kinda bad yah

gray umbra
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Naval security likes autoguns because it runs less risk of damaging ship systems(somehow]

dusk patrol
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They use shotguns a lot

crystal forum
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i thought they used shotguns

gray umbra
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I think they handwaved it with low velocity rounds

snow fern
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I mean ballistics is probably less damaging that literal lasers

dusk patrol
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The shotguns are intentionally set to have a very short range

gray umbra
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Im remembering this from ciaphas or eisenhorn

arctic talon
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Meltas are generally not allowed to be fired on board

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lol

gray umbra
#

Sounded like smgs when they described it

crystal forum
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shotguns with shattering rounds so it doesnt penetrate spacecraft

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but even then the reasoning is kinda dumb

spring cairn
crystal forum
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a lasgun wont pierce a ship's hull

dusk patrol
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They’re not mentioned much but

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They do exist

arctic talon
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god Jopall is real lol

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its so funny

crystal forum
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it's not a boeing 767

dusk patrol
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Mostly just as an alternative paint scheme

arctic talon
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they were at cadia

dusk patrol
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A few mentions in lore

dusk patrol
crystal forum
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their camo is pretty derpy

dusk patrol
#

And what damage you can do just firing down a corridor

wraith quartz
#

Right then...

Time's running short and given my brief anecdote I made an hour earlier, which regiment gives off the feeling of "AMERICA", like "I love the Imperium, I love the guard, and I love my lasgun"

spring cairn
#

they don't look very good yeah

crystal forum
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lots more

arctic talon
#

yeah

dusk patrol
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Shotguns and other Naval Voidsmen stuff is designed to not have that issue

crystal forum
#

they all really love the imperium

arctic talon
#

a lot of large famous regiments are pretty big hardliners

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in terms of loving what they do

dusk patrol
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The last thing you wanna be thinking in a firefight is if I should be worried about firing down a corridor cause it might cause a reactor leak

storm jungle
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Me when im carrying a mini-sun gun

gray umbra
#

Check out this volkite cannon guys

crystal forum
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space marines meanwhile boarding with rocket launchers

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we rolling boys

dusk patrol
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Volkite would probably be fine tbh lol

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Depending

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Just expensive

dusk patrol
arctic talon
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^

dusk patrol
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They also throw meltas like it’s going out of style

green loom
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I wonder if this is Acheran

dusk patrol
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Probably

crystal forum
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if we can customize our guy to be every chapter then who are we playing

dusk patrol
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Scottish people, in my 40k

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Disgusting

gray umbra
#

Dark angels

crystal forum
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there's no way we play as titus

arctic talon
crystal forum
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titus looking like a dark angel tho?

gray umbra
#

I thouhht u were talkina bout multiplayer

dusk patrol
#

That’s his Deathwatch gear probably

green loom
crystal forum
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brother why are you radiating paranoid schi-zophrenia energy

gray umbra
#

Ill probably go dark angel vanguard

dusk patrol
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He has a hood in that gear

green loom
dusk patrol
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Yeah

gray umbra
#

Yeah

crystal forum
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oh shit

dusk patrol
#

And the PvP of course

gray umbra
#

Pvp is gonna be ballin

crystal forum
#

am i really feeling hype for a 40k game

gray umbra
#

Im still disappointed eternal crusade flopped

dusk patrol
#

Probably do Iron Hands/Red Talons and Death Guard/Iron Warrior for those

gray umbra
#

Hey man just maintain your expectations and its aight

storm jungle
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lame-ass dork-ass

dusk patrol
#

He’s a Blackshield it makes sense, they’re not exactly know for styling it up a ton

#

He’s in his goth era then

crystal forum
#

do you think you get shot by arbites if you walk funny with the hood on

storm jungle
#

no

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if you walk with a hood on while damaging the lex imperialis tho then yes

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or drop an acorn somewhere

dusk patrol
crystal forum
#

knowing 40k that acorn could literally be a tzeentch agent

dusk patrol
#

They’re dealing with way higher level stuff

#

Now an Enforcer

#

Maybe, depends

storm jungle
#

Arbites do care about normies

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if they break Da Law

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you are american you literally should know about police brutality eternal

crystal forum
#

if you block an arbites from walking to his target i think he'll care about you for about 5 seconds depending on how fast you bleed out

dusk patrol
#

Mfw I learn about America from Reddit

storm jungle
#

BRUH MOMENT

dusk patrol
#

Some dumbass in Paris when I visited asked me if I had ever been shot at.

crystal forum
#

have you

storm jungle
#

valid question

dusk patrol
#

I asked him if he’d ever guillotined someone

wraith quartz
#

Hmm, ok ok loregryn . Thanks for answering my questions. Rn, I gotta get to 84 hr shift at the consignment yard ("going to work"), and will "definitely" go enlist and "help" Imperium.

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Ok, byyyyyyyyyyeeeeee

storm jungle
#

that joke doesnt work considering how much gun violence is actually in the U.S

gray umbra
#

Cops over by me will artificially create traffic to ticket motorcyclists lanesplitting

storm jungle
queen laurel
crystal forum
#

oh they're joking

queen laurel
#

Let that sink in

storm jungle
queen laurel
#

That was something

dusk patrol
arctic talon
#

Yeah

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Unless you live in chiraq

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I mean Chicago

storm jungle
dusk patrol
#

Or if you’re in the country, hunting

queen laurel
#

And when you go to school

storm jungle
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LMAO

arctic talon
#

💀

storm jungle
#

CHRIST

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worst part, not inaccurate either

outer wave
dusk patrol
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Not really accurate but regardless

dusk patrol
outer wave
#

Oh fair, it's also a movie about gang war in Chicago and a bunch of women go on a sex strike

dusk patrol
#

I don’t think the stat was totally accurate but it was something about how some parts of Chicago were experiencing more violence than parts of Iraq

#

Regardless of its accuracy Chiraq sounded good

dusk patrol
#

Idk if there’s much evidence it did much but it was a thing where a bunch of women on the South side did that

viral halo
outer wave
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Christ

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Chicago is borked

dusk patrol
#

Chicago used to be worse than it is now

viral halo
#

It's mainly just contained to the South Side

dusk patrol
#

It’s improved a lot in that time

#

Yeah

queen laurel
# storm jungle CHRIST

Hey dilara you remember hitch bot the robot that was used in an experiment and was able to make it Coast to Coast no problem in Canada but immediately got railed and ripped apart in Philadelphia

crystal forum
#

i genuinely will never understand how it became cool to act like a gangster for white middle class teenagers

#

i grew up with that shit

viral halo
#

If you guys want to see HELL look at Camden New Jersey

dusk patrol
#

There’s like a few blocks in Chicago where almost all the crime and shootings happen

#

Kinda wild actually how small the area is frankly.

viral halo
dusk patrol
#

Same reason people do anything tbh

#

Teens are stupid and rebel

#

Some go punk or goth some like to be gangster cause it’s glorified often in media

viral halo
#

As a white teenager you have two choices
act like something you are not
play HOI 4 and 40k black templars and become racist

dusk patrol
#

People used to glorify the mob too

crystal forum
dusk patrol
#

Crime is cool

viral halo
#

As a hispanic teenager you have two choices
dragonball and be racist
Neon genesis evangelion and be racist

outer wave
#

Mob culture is awesome kids

dusk patrol
#

Bonnie and Clyde were huge pieces of shit but it’s a fun story so they became folk heroes

dusk patrol
#

It’s “romantic”

queen laurel
viral halo
dusk patrol
#

I love the Sopranos for showing mobsters being dorks

viral halo
#

Tony Soprano was so racist he saw Uncle Ben's rice and had a panic attack

dusk patrol
#

The Wire is also fun for that a lot of times

crystal forum
#

i've listened to stories of ex prisoners and being gang affiliated genuinely sounds like a more soul crushing and abusive experience than anything

dusk patrol
#

If a show isn’t showing most of these gang bangers being losers ultimately

#

Then it’s not doing its job

#

Same with the Mob and shit

crystal forum
#

god mobster praising in the 90's was so stupid

#

the sopranos did it amazingly

storm jungle
#

they can keep the change

dusk patrol
#

I did enjoy that one movie where it showed how they died

gray umbra
dusk patrol
#

Super anti climatic

#

Boring

crystal forum
#

and then you look into it and you see that the crime families literally had a say in the production

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

hate people that think Tony is a good person

#

"oh he defended this woman"

#

lmao

gray umbra
#

I liked black mass mostly because whitey bulger was a piecs of shit

dusk patrol
#

He’s funny and he’s not completely without some virtues but mostly he’s a terrible person.

gray umbra
#

Also johnny depp plays a mean irish mobster

dusk patrol
#

Especially the main hitmen guys, they weren’t even good

storm jungle
#

Yeah the later seasons get super dark to the point of being unwatchable by some people from how depressing it gets. Tony basically is just a monster that does not want to improve himself by any means at the end of the day, the last session he has with Melfi shows it all

dusk patrol
#

Jsut willing to kill anyone

storm jungle
#

its kinda the same thing with Scorcese's mob movies

#

thye do a great job of showing once you get in you will either die or be imprisoned for life

#

lmao

dusk patrol
#

As much as I love the Godfather the Mob literally changed stuff to be more like the movie

#

Since they weren’t that cool

crystal forum
storm jungle
#

Godfather got edited to shit because the literal actual mob oversaw the production.

#

same reason why the word "mafia" was removed from the script

dusk patrol
storm jungle
#

^

#

He grew up in a literal mobster community

dusk patrol
#

I think he can do better with some movies

storm jungle
#

he glorifies them in the first hour or so

#

THEN

#

the ugly stuff comes in

dusk patrol
#

the thing is, and I get this, these are people

#

He knew these people

crystal forum
#

my biggest gripe with him is he overuses period music so much

dusk patrol
#

You need to show them being people first

storm jungle
#

Idk i like it

#

bing chilling vibe

storm jungle
dusk patrol
#

Cause there’s a path to becoming these people

#

Sometimes with Wolf of Wallstreet I can agree he maybe doesn’t do enough to show Belfort being a piece of shit and makes it too fun, but I do think the message is clear by the end

storm jungle
#

its what makes the scene in the Goodfellas with them whacking Bats so horrific, they are just having fun before they decide to beat the shit out of this guy and later stab him to death in a trunk.

The main guy himself is shook from it when he realises what kind of psychos he was actually hanging out with.

crystal forum
#

i think it's more of a family thing than a path

storm jungle
#

Its a bit of both

dusk patrol
#

It’s both

#

It depends

crystal forum
#

it's hard to willingly join that stuff

dusk patrol
#

Some of them had no connection prior

#

The Irishman is about someone like that

dusk patrol
crystal forum
#

also fun fact some italian mobs now only require partial italian heritage to become made hehehehehe

dusk patrol
#

It’s often a family thing and you have a lot of former monsters testimonies about how that worked

storm jungle
#

yep but growing up in that environment you dont think like that, you think its all money, cars, babes etc. Its once you finally get in you realise how bad it is.

Its why the mafia declined so badly, at the end of the day these people are just scumbags.

crystal forum
#

they're getting desperate

#

fuck those people

storm jungle
#

also that yeah

#

theres no "loyalty"

#

its all bullshit

dusk patrol
#

There’s not a lack of former mobsters on YouTube you can listen to talk about it

crystal forum
#

i've heard how these greaseballs treat restaurant staff if they're not clearly straight males

dusk patrol
#

The mob is severely undercut these days

#

The Russian and Italian mob got crushed in New York

#

And it fell apart from there

storm jungle
#

^

crystal forum
#

they're still a big thing in canada weirdly enough

#

montreal has some mob stuff going on still

storm jungle
crystal forum
#

i think it's because we dont have the funds that the FBI has

storm jungle
#

also that too lol

crystal forum
#

it's really annoying

storm jungle
#

the mob doesnt have as much power as it did in the past, its why they are generally forgotten about

crystal forum
#

nobody likes them here

dusk patrol
#

Crime ain’t ever gonna go away but it’s definitely much harder to do what they did these days

storm jungle
#

^

#

Technology advancing and other shit basically almost makes it impossible to not get caught.

#

back in the day you can just hide a corpse and mostly get away lol

dusk patrol
#

For all its issues it’s very hard to corrupt the FBI and police departments these days with how they can track people and stuff

storm jungle
#

Yep.

crystal forum
#

brining cops is also not really feasible anymore

#

unless you're a politician

dusk patrol
#

Hoover had a lot of fucked up stuff he did but he did also completely annihilate crime

storm jungle
#

Could be worse staregryn

snow fern
#

could be better

dusk patrol
#

At least he had the courtesy of being a bizarre dude so he’s interesting to read about

snow fern
#

he also completely fumbled the great depression

crystal forum
#

the red scare and its consequences

dusk patrol
#

Wrong Hoover

#

J Edgar Hoover

#

Not Herbert Hoover

crystal forum
#

the FBI guy?

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

#

Although both did stuff

snow fern
#

Oh, that would explain my confusion

storm jungle
crystal forum
#

basically the precursor to that 3 letter agency

#

wtf is the name of that agency again

storm jungle
#

FBI? CIA? NSA?

#

DEA?

crystal forum
#

NSA

storm jungle
#

Walter White?

dusk patrol
#

Herbert Hoover was in an unwinnable position anyways

crystal forum
#

he did what NSA does now

snow fern
#

Well Herbert didn't need to sic Eisenhower of the protesters

crystal forum
#

wtf is the job of the NSA even

snow fern
#

shoot your dog?

crystal forum
#

no that's ATF

dusk patrol
#

No but I’m not gonna pretend any president didn’t do fucked up stuff I would never agreed with

#

And the protestor thing isn’t why people dislike him anyways

#

Or know about him

celest dome
#

No it's Peta

crystal forum
#

is jimmy carter still alive

dusk patrol
#

Barely

#

But yeah

crystal forum
#

fucking how

#

joe biden will pass before him i swear

dusk patrol
#

He hasn’t died yet

#

That’s how

crystal forum
#

guy's got the peanut vitality

gray umbra
#

Not before they all cannibalize your social security

snow fern
#

rich people don't need to work or do anything besides be pumped full of drugs

dusk patrol
#

I mean tbh it’s that and luck

storm jungle
#

LOOK AT HIM

#

JESUS

crystal forum
#

yeah it's mostly genetics

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

#

He’s almost 100 iirc

storm jungle
#

99 rn, almost there lol

crystal forum
#

i think like 4 presidents died before him

#

who were put in office after him

storm jungle
#

Im more of a Castro fan myself

#

oppression + super-gene-enhanced ice cream

#

what can go wrong

snow fern
#

how many assassination attempts did he survive again?

storm jungle
#

100?

snow fern
#

CIA dropped the ball on that

dusk patrol
#

Whatever he claimed tbh

#

That number comes from his security

storm jungle
#

the explosive cigar was some looney tunes shit

#

worst part is i can totally believe it

#

lmao

#

the CIA had a plan to like blow him up with remote fish when he was visiting an area he liked to swim iirc

#

like just... what

crystal forum
#

USA losing its shit over a tiny dirt poor island is so damn funny

dusk patrol
#

From what I understand his whole association deal is mostly way over reported and a lot were jsut like

dusk patrol
#

“What if we did this”

storm jungle
#

gotta make sure to fuck over any country

storm jungle
#

like the CIA really wanted castro dead lmao

#

but we dont have an exact number but you can bet at least 20-30 plans existed

dusk patrol
#

And personally if I was his bodyguard

#

I’d definitely say I stopped like four attempts every day

storm jungle
#

Bing chilling moment

dusk patrol
#

It’s a fun story too

storm jungle
#

imagine being a bodyguard during his entire Super-Icecream phase

dusk patrol
#

Gotta keep the folks at R and D busy

storm jungle
#

Guy put more effort into that shit than the emperor put into making space marines

#

💀

crystal forum
#

when you're a dictator you can do dumb shit

dusk patrol
#

He was an odd duck to say the least

#

Dictators would be fun if it wasn’t for the whole wide scale oppression and mass murdering thing

crystal forum
#

in fact doing dumb shit is what dictators do best

storm jungle
#

like i really cannot blame him for the first portion

gray umbra
storm jungle
#

Never ask Magos Stalin what he tried to do with chimps.....

dusk patrol
#

Singapore’s dictator is one of the few modern Cincinnatus

#

Although he wasn’t without faults

#

Was one*

storm jungle
crystal forum
#

would you trust kim jon un with a mars bar

#

let alone a country

storm jungle
#

no

gray umbra
#

Isnt he the guy who wanted you executed for smoking ganja

storm jungle
#

He also probably plays Helldivers

#

we know it got blocked in north korea

crystal forum
#

hell maybe all of asia

dusk patrol
crystal forum
#

which korea

#

true korea or false korea

tough haven
dusk patrol
dusk patrol
crystal forum
#

i want to make a map of the world but with the most fucked up territorial claims

#

like mainland taiwan

tough haven
gray umbra
#

If i ever became a dictator ill do the kim jong un backstory but steal the emperors backstory

dusk patrol
#

Saddam Hussein and especially his sons were almost cartoonish with how evil they were

#

Like Saddam actually hated one of his sons he was so fucked up

tough haven
gray umbra
#

I was born from the souls of ancient anatolian shamans

dusk patrol
#

Pretty sure they lived the last of their days in fear and died horribly though so

gray umbra
#

Ill name my fistborn horus lupercal

dusk patrol
#

At least there’s that

#

Also Saddam hating how fucked up his son is

#

My brother in Christ

#

Who the fucks fault is that

tough haven
gray umbra
#

Yeah first edict is ban religion

#

Ill have some intern carry a streamer light at all times

#

Hooked up to a backpack generator

tough haven
gray umbra
#

When i craft my legal system, a capital offense will result in servitorization

#

So i can have cherubs herald my presidential address

tough haven
#

I eagerly await your rise to power!

plush mason
#

After millennia of slumber, Vargard Nefershah mobilises her dynasty’s legions to annihilate the Adeptus Mechanicus interlopers who unknowingly settled upon her world. Across the galaxy, Magos Dominus Faustinius is summoned to bring his hard-won expertise to bear and ensure the Necrons do not succeed. The conflict soon becomes a crucible of unant...

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▶ Play video
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this time the necrons are the player faction lets go

arctic talon
#

2 campaigns

plush mason
#

even better