40k-lore-chat

[snow fern]

A Rogue Trader revival on the ugly side of the Maledictum.
That might be fun, not as unlimited resources as pre split RT, but not as funds starved as say, Big E told you to fuck off RT

[bold wren]

Apparently some inquisitors act like Rogue Traders.

And then Rogue Traders act like inquisitors to confuse people.

Strange but it has happened.

[outer wave]

Are the dwarfs an okay race to start with as a new player?

[storm jungle]

They are extremely easy

[outer wave]

POG!!!

[storm jungle]

you can turtle up for half the matches and win just through that lol

[outer wave]

Thats what I do anyway as vamp coast!!!

[storm jungle]

lmfao

they are fun to play so feel free to vary up your playstyle and look up some guides too

[outer wave]

Gotcha

I'll play around with Vilitch for idk 20 minutes then try a dwarf man out

[arctic talon]

Dwarfs are def an easy faction to play

thank god

CA tries pushing Empire or Kislev to new players

for uh

reasons

oh also Cathay ig

but cathay are just dwarfs human edition lol

[outer wave]

Ngl heard of that but idk they dont entice me all that much

[arctic talon]

oh I'm talking about on the RTS side

in terms of actual like themeing or macro stuff they aren't like dwarfs at all

[outer wave]

Oh I realize, I was also referring to their playstyle

[arctic talon]

oh

fair enough

either way Dwarfs are good for starters

all their lords are like absurdly strong as well lol

[outer wave]

Pog

[arctic talon]

I have had my entire army die but have Thorgrim finish off the rest of the enemy army lol

[outer wave]

Thogrim did not like that lmao

Only army Im really REALLY keeping away for now but do want to try eventually are chaos dwarfs, just because of the amount of resources you gotta balance out

[arctic talon]

Grudge went in the book + was solved

[outer wave]

Hell yeah

[arctic talon]

Chaos Dwarfs are

tough to play

really cool though

[outer wave]

Yuhhhhh

They look like a lot of fun but very mechanics intensive on the map side

[arctic talon]

ngl the best faction to teach someone is Skarbrand/j

they will definitely develop good habits from playing skarbrand

[rose thorn]

Two questions

In the militarum, what’s the ratio of civilian workers to soldiers are there

Ie engineers or cooks or what ever

There’s a term for it

[arctic talon]

Engineers are all enginseers or soldiers trained in it

[rose thorn]

I forgor

[arctic talon]

non combat personnel?

[rose thorn]

Yea

[arctic talon]

they're still in the militarum(technically)

just not in combat roles

[rose thorn]

Yea that’s what i meant

[arctic talon]

We know the militarum has cooks when battlefields allow it, along with like priests present and stuff

but we don't know the ratio of it

[green loom]

Since the militarum has no standardization it probably varies from unit to unit

[rose thorn]

B; what sounds better a genestealer cult death hulk or a genestealer cult space fleet

[arctic talon]

GSC with actual ships would be cool

[rose thorn]

Spoilers for void king:

||there’s are genestealer cult rogue trader dynasties||

A militaristic genestealer cult fleet would be baller

[green loom]

I'm debating making my super chaos lady a rogue trader

[rose thorn]

Go ham

It would be a cool proxy for uh

The cultist hq

My only concern is idk how the cult would get new members if it’s just an offensive space fleet

I mean like spreading

[green loom]

They get around space and people forget about/don't know them

[rose thorn]

Oh also just literally firing genestealers would be fun

I heard of imperial guard drop pods but I have no clue what they look like

[storm jungle]

Taking warband members

like uh, Gaunt's Ghosts showcases this from Sharpe's Rifles which is during the napoleonic wars but basically

travelling armies need "entertainment", like women, whores, etc

they sometimes develop the feels and make kids/start families during tours

its also established some regiments like Cadians bang during ship-travel to make kids

[rose thorn]

So just, take people under the misunderstanding that they are loyal lmao

[storm jungle]

Lmao basically yeah

Soldiers need R&R

[green loom]

You also don't really need new members because

Imperial ships are imperial ships

[rose thorn]

hheudheisvei also doing like, recruitment campaigns for both soldiers and non combat personnel

[green loom]

Meaning

Basically floating cities

[rose thorn]

True

[green loom]

With permanent populations

[storm jungle]

Yeah also like

even GSC cults got "slave" caste workers

aka aberrants and first gen mutated members

[rose thorn]

I was planning to use the new gsc heads to represent like, the mutated and disfigured of the lower decks

[storm jungle]

who are all like "ah yes you are a part of our family"

keeps them in the basement

[storm jungle]

Also yeah that deffo works

like GSC are already living in "layers" of societty

human ships in 40k got layers of society themselves

[arctic talon]

also just other "undesirable" GSC lol

[rose thorn]

Just marginally more fair then the imperium

[arctic talon]

Gen 3 and 4 are the ones that are allowed in public

and also humans

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

they do care for them

but they also deffo dont care for them as much as the more humanoid members

lmao

[green loom]

2016 was 8 years ago
Give me a second while I die

[arctic talon]

everyone is equal

but some are more equal then others

[storm jungle]

im glad IRL isnt like this

[arctic talon]

-Cult of the 4 armed emperor

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

Except the ones that look much more like nids are

[storm jungle]

Yeeee

it deffo depends on the cult

some are lierally just

"yeah we are all freaks we love it"

[arctic talon]

I do find it hilarious how a lot of people just assume GSCs are just

oh

an underhive mutant

ew

[rose thorn]

I like the idea of a hyper competent gsc miltitary that tries to aid other cults

wandering space until they are found out or find contact with other cults

[arctic talon]

GSC are getting a broodbrother detachment lmao

[storm jungle]

As long as their "beliefs" align thats very much possible

[arctic talon]

50% of your army can be guard

instead of 25% lmao

[rose thorn]

WHAT

AAAAAAA

YESSS

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[arctic talon]

the GSC player rolling up to the table with 2 fucking baneblades

[rose thorn]

do we lose uh, regiment specific units?

[arctic talon]

No

[rose thorn]

FUCK YEAH

[storm jungle]

to be fair we had that one cult whos entire thing is "we are all military" for like years now, good to know that its finally being reinforced lol

[arctic talon]

GSC still have access to everything they had in the index

as far as we know

[rose thorn]

We still lose a humans right?

[arctic talon]

yeah you can't run stuff like Scions still

[rose thorn]

Abhumans*

[arctic talon]

and abhumans

[rose thorn]

Fair

[rose thorn]

Weird but fair

[arctic talon]

but you get kasrkin lol

[rose thorn]

YESSS

Also named units are time

[arctic talon]

unless something heavily changes

[rose thorn]

Gone*

[arctic talon]

between the index and codex for BB rules

and the Broodbrother showcase showed off

[rose thorn]

And I assume the like 90 different agents of the imperium bugs

[arctic talon]

the new thingiys

[rose thorn]

YESSS

[arctic talon]

either way

[rose thorn]

AAAaaa so excited

[arctic talon]

GSC codex will be interesting at worst

[rose thorn]

Ways I’m thinking the fleet would operate, either aiding other cults or just attacking planets that the hive mind tells them to

Or maybe both

Or maybe just ‘hey the news paper says this is an important place let’s go bomb it’s

I’m so hype

[storm jungle]

Try asking these in a nid server too

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah

[storm jungle]

you'll get some real loreheads explaining stuff

[rose thorn]

Sorry lol

[storm jungle]

Lmao im just giving tips

[rose thorn]

uwu

Might kitbash like guard characters as gsc for when I just wanna run a guard army with purple paint

[storm jungle]

Its a good and fun plan

GSC are like Orks when imperials get a mini

[rose thorn]

Yay! Validation!

[storm jungle]

"yo new kitbash"

[rose thorn]

FR

[storm jungle]

like

admech GSC exist

so sky is the limit

lol

[arctic talon]

Cult of the rusted claw

or whatever iirc

or is it the otherone

bladed cog

[rose thorn]

There was an official guide to make gsc orks

In a white dwarf

For the uh, killteam

[green loom]

Oh I wonder if you could make a stealer cult thanatar

Some converted Magos drags one out of a vault

[rose thorn]

Honestly get a stance off Etsy and you are set

Love the idea of a gsc tech priest just stealing a shitload of old admech tech and running away

[storm jungle]

does the Thanar have a servitor inside it

[green loom]

It should I think

Elite knows prolly

[storm jungle]

ok so new thing from the Leviathan book about the new 4th Tyrannic war just incase;

in the book uh

[rose thorn]

Also I wanna use the new uh, less than pure strain genestealers, maybe just the same idea as Lower deck pure strains

[rose thorn]

O?

[storm jungle]

the hivemind literally mentally speaks to a servitor whos running a reactor

and makes it blow up an entire fucking hive city

[rose thorn]

HWGEHWHHSHW

[storm jungle]

so AGAIN

SKY IS THE LIMIT

[rose thorn]

Oh USE THAT NEW ADMECH BOX FOR UH,

HH

It’s perfect

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

Now I just need a cult name and the idea is set

[unborn phoenix]

Could kharn take Doom guy in a fight?

[rose thorn]

Probably even?

They are basically the exact same

Except kharn gets revived

[unborn phoenix]

Only difference is one has a god at his back

[rose thorn]

Yea

Depends who’s writing that day

[unborn phoenix]

Unfortunately yeah

[young pecan]

Average Kislev new player experience

[rose thorn]

Brotherhood of the Void Song?

Soldiers of the Void Gods

[green loom]

This keeps reminding me of an art piece

A memepostor thing

[arctic talon]

it does not

The Thanatar has a mutilated biological brain however

[green loom]

Brain 2 infect

[arctic talon]

yeah idk if a genestealer can infect it without destroying it

like the cranial casing and all that

[green loom]

An infected magos could probably fuck with it

[bold wren]

Doomguy wouldn't die from plot armor

And that's like it.

[arctic talon]

def

But thantars are kept on lockdown generally

If one is spotted walking around it either means the forgeworld is actively on fire and trying not to die or someone is about to die lol

[bold wren]

Hard to infect something with little to no flesh.

That even if they had flesh would cover them.

[rose thorn]

The Starborn Crusaders is the best name atm

[green loom]

Yeah but if the wrong magos is infected he'll probably stop caring about all that and turn it to the cult for use

[storm jungle]

Doomguy has killed things tougher than Kharn

so no

it would be a tough fight but he'd get his ass kicked, guy couldnt even take on Sigismund and hes just a top of the line Space Marine champion

also Doomguy has shit like how every demon he kills its soul he absorbs and also strengthens him 💀

[green loom]

Doesn't doomer bro literally kill god

[snow fern]

Something like that, idk didn't play the dlcs

[storm jungle]

Basically yeah

whos also in über-super power armor

and may as well be like Primarch+

[thorn zenith]

Yeah slayer is primarch+

Ive seen several slayer vs 40k thread and it all comes down to whether he has demon absorbing power or not

[storm jungle]

Yeah which is also people generally coping to make it a "fair" fight lmao

as the Doom lore shows best you can do is imprison him

"May we never need you again."

💀

[thorn zenith]

Doom demons seem to also be khornate equivalent so with the absorbtion the warp is extra fucked if "death incarnates" could only imprison him after going all in

[sacred ginkgo]

He would probably just enter the warp and then never leave

[outer wave]

Doom guy is a bit tragic to me because any time he's conscious he's just being used for the purpose of killing demons (which I mean tbf he absolutely is okay with), but he can never live a peaceful life

[thorn zenith]

I also would like to think that slayer didnt even need the army when he was assaulting the fortress, hence the stank eye he and the other guy exchanged like he didnt ask for them

Which makes it more hilarious that the boys wouldnt have been there to help the slayer, but just showed up at the same time for the opportunity to beat the shit out of hell

[storm jungle]

Yeah its very much suppose to be there for the sake of epicness but hey its the thought that counts lol

[storm jungle]

Also yeah the ending of this current DOOM saga very much makes it seem so.

Since they lock him up again and say that they hope he will never be needed again like a WMD

[outer wave]

Yeah thats basically what he's become

Just a living weapon with almost no agency for himself

[river walrus]

Where you get so many skulls?

[storm jungle]

[alpine niche]

well i guess they've been pretty good at finding their namesake.

[green loom]

Many chuds find their end at the hands of dilara

[young pecan]

Witnessed this event a couple of times. Good for the dopamine

[river walrus]

Good! Chuds is bad yes?

[green loom]

Very

They don't like Ogryn

Or sparkhead

[river walrus]

Very good! Thanking you Dilara!

Am grapefull for chud killing!

[storm jungle]

I try my best

sometimes

[river walrus]

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-gif-1403032518276698891

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-dance-cat-shake-dance-cat-wiggle-shake-gif-7275729331624892207

[rose thorn]

OMG THATS TEEN TITANS GO

i was tyring to figure out

why that was so familiar

[outer wave]

Could you hypothetically kill a world of Khornate Berzerkers by loading up the atmosphere with Space Wolf booze and kill them while they're intoxicated?

[lunar harness]

in doom eternal it showed he did make friends with the space vikings though, so he does get to socialize sometimes. I think he had some form of normal life on earth for awhile as well.

i think doom guy is capable of living normally its just that demons keep destroying everything

[outer wave]

Possibly but his existence regardless consists of being used to kill demons before being put back down for later, unless they do that just because they know demons could come back idk

[storm jungle]

the Fortress of Doom™️ showcases that he has off-mission hobbies like playing a guitar and such yeah its more that hes deffo a loner type

OH YEAH also a big fucking reader/bookworm

[outer wave]

NERD

[storm jungle]

[crisp heath]

More like dorkguy

[storm jungle]

also uhh id say yes if alchocol can actually be dispensed into air, not sure if that would work or not

the lore literally has admech burning an entire atmosphere to stop tyranids so this is not as ridiculous as it sounds lol

[crisp heath]

Yeah alcohol aerosolizes

[outer wave]

I'm sure you could pump trillions of gallons of vaporous alcohol to intoxicate any CSM and kill the rest

[crisp heath]

The issue is you'd also be breathing the Mjod

So you'd be a drunk marine or dead mortal

[storm jungle]

I cough hardly from even getting a whiff of whiskey, i cannot imagine Mjod lol

[outer wave]

But consider: this is space wolves, who love this shit and drink it on the daily

They probably have the best resistance to the stuff

[crisp heath]

I used to drink a lot of Viking Blod, I could hang with the space wolves

[outer wave]

Augh I love a good whisky

Am light weight as hell though

[lunar harness]

well at the end of doom eternal he || meets God, God admits that he's not really God but stole the position of God from the actual creator who was being a dick, as long as the creator exists hell has infinite respawns, so doom guy awakens the pissed off evil creator to kill him and end the threat of hell forever, the creator is identical to doom guy, doom guy then travels to the Capitol of hell and gets aided by sci fi space vikings to get into the city, the creator 1v1s doom guy and loses, i think this implies doom guy is now God or something, the guy who stole the position of God originally puts him to sleep to let the universe mellow out i assume ||

this is my not very invested interpretation of doom eternal and how it ends lol

[storm jungle]

Its a bit wrong in a few places

but like

the new doom lore is literally 40k dear depth

so i dont blame you lmao

whoever wrote the backstory for this shit was on something ill say that much

[outer wave]

New DOOM lore be wild

[lunar harness]

i don't like metal that much

but eternal soundtrack

wew

what bangers

[outer wave]

I love me some Igorrr metal

[green loom]

With all the filler and garbage junk that entails

[outer wave]

And yeah Doom OST is good

[green loom]

I don't like the doom OST tbh

I kinda prefer Gordon's work on atomic heart

[lunar harness]

i didn't play that game cause it looked too pervy lol

[green loom]

The soundtrack is like the one good thing about it

[outer wave]

God Atomic Heart really was a flash in the pan

[storm jungle]

the only pervy stuff is the horny drink machine and the Twins

[green loom]

It had some neat proof of concept trailers

[storm jungle]

who are just porn advertisement

[lunar harness]

well

[storm jungle]

otherwise nada

[thorn zenith]

Gordon did atomic heart?

[green loom]

You mean the weird incestuous(?) robot(?) clone(?) sisters(?)?

[lunar harness]

i saw a lot of them in the advertisements it made it look really dumb lmao

[outer wave]

I loved the trailers and seeing the weird research freaks that were roaming around

[green loom]

Pretty sure yeah

[lunar harness]

i didn't know mick Gordon did the music though

[green loom]

And then it's just "oh haha ruski fps"

[lunar harness]

he's very talented

[outer wave]

Then there was the politics controversy which made me go "Ew"

[lunar harness]

https://tenor.com/view/atomic-heart-robot-girls-soviet-robot-women-gif-27446258

[green loom]

For some reason some of the trailers had like weird in depth weapon customization with like modular pistols and painting????

[thorn zenith]

For a setting about retrofuturistic weird stuff, atomic heart was nowhere nearly weird enough

[lunar harness]

this is a game... made by boys.

xD

[thorn zenith]

THEY CUT OUT THE BASTARDS

I AM STILL PISSED

[green loom]

It's made by Russian dudebros

[green loom]

The wah

[thorn zenith]

THE WEAPON CUSTOMIZATIONS

[crisp heath]

Yeah I didn't play specifically because of the robots

[green loom]

Oh

[crisp heath]

Same reason I've never played Baldurs Gate 3 lmao

[lunar harness]

and here we see the perfect woman... one without a mouth that does whatever you want and is naked all the time

xD

[green loom]

It doesn't help that the English dub is arguably one of the most atrocious examples of voice acting in the last decade

[lunar harness]

thanks Russia

[outer wave]

It was that bad?

[thorn zenith]

Lmao theres a whole spoiler about em, but its just the internet being horndogs

[outer wave]

I heard it wasn't like synced properly or something but didn't hear it being absolute dog

[green loom]

It reeks of "we grabbed some Russian dudes who could pass an accent"

[outer wave]

Ooof

[green loom]

Think like how western movies/games have junk versions of non English languages

[thorn zenith]

I reckon you gotta play it like Metro series, ruski dub with eng sub

[green loom]

Where like yeah it's kinda right but it sounds wrong

[thorn zenith]

But yeah Atomic Heart has A LOT of innuendos

Coming from someone who played through the whole thing and dlcs

[outer wave]

Doesn't it like end on a cliff hanger?

[crisp heath]

I do not play games with adult content because the Buddha taught me not to

[green loom]

https://youtu.be/SstWbERMv00?si=YkrLcaSI_mS9c9iP

[thorn zenith]

The dlcs continue from both endings

Apparently theres 4 planned but 2 already out so they ALSO end in cliffhangers

[green loom]

It had dlcs?

[thorn zenith]

Eeyup

The twins are just eyebrow wagging sexualized bodies, and the vending machine is a siren that kills people

But it is also heavily mentioned that some robots were used for sex

[storm jungle]

Damn who woulda thunk

also

[outer wave]

The robussy be tight

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-i-knew-it-i-knew-it-gif-6798151620698804569

Aren't the twins pretty fucked up though

Like they're constructs of your chars dead spy wife

Or something

That his boss probably does things with

[storm jungle]

Uh

they look hot so idk idc

[paper haven]

It's a good gif.

[rose thorn]

It unlocked memories in my mind I thought I would never remember

[wanton stag]

ive only seen people talk about those two mannequin twins from atomic heart, that games only just a massive art portfolio

[paper haven]

The art direction is by far the most interesting part of that game

[dusk patrol]

Maybe she was freaky

Even in death she still kinks

[tough haven]

As a daemon primarch, is lorgar often out doing things like angron and mortarion? I feel like he’s barely mentioned

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/atomic-heart-robot-girls-soviet-robot-women-gif-27446258

[orchid lark]

Its often said he just meditates and ponders about chaos

He pontificates a lot

[raven stone]

Apparently the 10th rulebook or somewhere makes mention he is now kinda sorta walking around and preaching with his legion

But GW has not made anything of it ever since that one mention

(The way the blurb was written, he was not even crusading).

[azure knoll]

dude's hiding from a bird, absolutely horrified

[rocky gale]

Yea, they're left and right because they're made using the left and right hemisphere of your dead wife's brain and have a replication of her face under their masks. Also it's implied by another NPC that the guy who made them has sex with them.

It's uhhhhhhhhhh

[green loom]

Slavs are real freaks man

It's kinda scary

[normal light]

[green loom]

The Marquis de Sade was a big thing but he's about as weird as the average Slav fantasy writer

[tough haven]

Oh I forgot about BirdMan

[rocky gale]

It's always funny that Sadism and Masochism are literally just named after two guys, you'd think they would be sciency words with Latin etymology, but nope they're both just named after a couple of horny Noblemen.

[green loom]

It is pretty funny

[bold wren]

Necromunda has a lot of interesting monsters.

And people say old school 40k is over. If you really want that old feel necromunda is where you go.

[shell mason]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-necron-sister-of-battle-vibe-gif-20525719

they're are three high lords in necron society, but those two are controlled by the silent king

[bold wren]

Smh

[shadow plover]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/20/join-the-underhive-headhunt-with-the-malcadon-yeld-and-jakara-spyrers/

Seems like the rest of the Spyder variants will be coming soon after the initial one shown during the weekend

[storm jungle]

LETS FUCKING GO

[raven stone]

The family is all here

I like how the updated redesign actually gives it hints of an unseen xenos race

[storm jungle]

They look like spiderman villains too lmao

[raven stone]

Rather than following some weird ancient rumour that they were sold by Tau

[storm jungle]

Yeah this is deffo way better as an aesthetic choice

industrial but sleek

[shadow plover]

Quite an enjoyable looking bunch, will most likely get them all

[crisp heath]

Did we ever find out what that tick thing was

Or is that still unreleased

[shadow plover]

It's part of the malformed genestealer group

[crisp heath]

Laaaaame

[storm jungle]

^

really wish it was just a lil alien

it looks nothing like a tyranid lol

[raven stone]

I almost wish the Spyrer suits had 40k rules

[raven stone]

TBF it is kind of the point in lore

[storm jungle]

:|

https://tenor.com/view/cat-catslap-cats-slap-gif-5628396

[raven stone]

Malstrains are so horribly mutated that even the Hive Mind be like "fuck this shit I'm out"

[raven stone]

Owie XD

But back to Spyrers...

...

I could actually just use the model for a Customizes RT

*Customized

Might do that actually.

[storm jungle]

You deffo should lmao

[azure knoll]

this makes it better tbh

[green loom]

I love the found footage style they've got going for their art lol

[raven stone]

Although it is a small plot hole now

I mean, imagine if the Imperium learned of this on a wider level

So basically, ever world has a small controlled handful of Malstrain Genestealers

And suddenly the Hive Mind just migrates to a different galaxy due to "lack of food"

🤣

[green loom]

In fairness the fact they exist is pretty suppressed

And I don't imagine the Admech would be thrilled at being outed for their existence

[raven stone]

That is true, yes

[storm jungle]

Prob will be covered come the next codex

because Necromunda is THE most single detailed out planet in the setting of 40k, they almost explain everything with/around it.

it has an actual plotline that also progresses, like how currently a literal possible-DAOT era android/robot is the planetary governor with full ecclesiarchy support

[raven stone]

Necromunda, Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader.

The sacred triad of advancing the plot without being silly with it 🤣

(Also that bit about Lord Helmawr being a potential bot is...fascinating 🤣 )

[lunar harness]

The New Necromunda reveals are so cool

wish I had necromunda frens T_T

[raven stone]

With me Necromunda sits at the weird “I want to like it” level.
It is a solid game with cool lore.
But the issue is, you know you are small fry compared to the larger 40k verse.

[rocky gale]

My issue with Necromunda is it's rules aren't centralised like any of the other games

Like if I'm curious about Killteam, AoS or 40k rules I can just google it and find a website where everything is collected and get an understanding of how things work, then with Necromunda it's rules are split between 100 rulebooks and there's not a great website which collects them all.

and sure if I tried I could find a read through all the rulebooks, but I don't wanna

[shadow plover]

Kinda wish the other Spyders were more unique in design and not that homogeneous

[celest dome]

Spyders ?

[shadow plover]

these

old versions

Malcadon is a downgrade for sure, but the rest are upgrades

[celest dome]

Oh Spyrers

[shadow plover]

hopefully the kits will have some options

ah mb

[celest dome]

I think one of the reason they look more homgenous is the paint job

[shadow plover]

for sure but the designs have a lot of similar elements too

[celest dome]

I wonder if the Patriarch and Matriarch will also appear

[raven stone]

To be fair, the suits originating from a single unknown xenos race is a fair assumption

So their physical outlines would have uniformity

But I agree their colours should be highly customised.

We are talking about murderously spoiled brats, after all.

[raven stone]

Sadly it is heavily implied Matriarchs and Patriarchs are gonna be converted from the existing Spyders instead (what with the article waffling on about sharing interchangeable bits).

But maybe GW will be smart enough to give those two actual models.

[celest dome]

I think that Matriarch and Patriarch will be left aside, not the leader that is mentioned here

[storm jungle]

Also Munda has a lot of "ancient aliens" shit

its great

[shadow plover]

stuff that coloured people did but white people don't believe it?

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-slide-floor-gif-5458147

[spring cairn]

Thorgrim start, with the vanilla flavour before getting into hyper-specialised lords like Ungrim or CTB lords like Belegar

[spring cairn]

yes and no

they're easy to pick up and fun to play at all level

but i wouldn't recommend starting total war warhammer with them because there's tons of stuff you won't get to learn due to their very defensive playstyle

[outer wave]

Damn

[queen laurel]

Late but

two of the suggested armies by CA aren't the best being the empire and cathay

The empire being you are literally surrounded even though the roster is very flexible but of course they rely mostly on their artillery and range to win most fights

Same can be said for Cathay but it's even more specific because of their ying and yang mechanic

That if you can't keep your units bunch up together and match them you could suffer some tremendous drawbacks in a battle

Tyrion the high elf is unfortunately the best way to get a feel of the game

His mechanics are simple the high elves as an army are pretty forgiving and the territory he's in his pretty f****** easy

[outer wave]

Oh yeah forgot about the high elves tbh

Welp I guess I'll play them eventually

[queen laurel]

Yeah if you really want to get a feel of the mechanics first play Tyrion

[outer wave]

👌 😔

[gray umbra]

Does anyone know if GW ever talks about transportation in hives? Is it all just public transit or do people have vehicles

[rose thorn]

What’s a good imperium ship size that isn’t absurd for a genestealer cult to control but is still holds enough people to be a threat

[celest dome]

There are small vehicles, we even see some

[rose thorn]

Necromunda!

There’s rivers and oceans of sewers

Crossed by boats

Series of pullies and elevators

[storm jungle]

^

Its every kind of vehicle imaginable

trams, cars, metros, trains, boats, aircraft etc

[storm jungle]

Heres a lore accurate ship size/charts

feel free to lexi-search some and see about which one could fit yours the most, it should have crew sizes in the pages too

[viral halo]

the one space ship chart to rule them all

[storm jungle]

Lmao half the 40k ships there are so off-size too

literally just trying to dick-measure

[gray umbra]

Cool i just saw the necromunda orlock gangs with atvs lmao

[rocky gale]

Good ole 40k, where even the smallest ships like the Viper are still a Kilometre long

[rose thorn]

Thanks! I have no clue what any of this mean

[rocky gale]

Even the torpedoes are 60m longs

[rose thorn]

He seen this picture before and like

Ive*

[rose thorn]

Don’t forget the new cop car

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's quite the scale

Lovely and absolutely fucked

Can practically consider most of them artificial planet or space stations

[rocky gale]

You also got to love 40k reusing the same names over and over

[green loom]

US Army syndrome

[rocky gale]

"Command is sending a Castigator"

Could mean a Titan, a ship, a Tank, a bolt pistol or a police officer

[queen laurel]

You can only grab so many words to butcher and stick together

[rocky gale]

Pretty sure the Japanese did the same in WW2, where most things were just called the "Type" followed by a number, so you've have your type 99 rifle, your typ 99 grenade, type 99 lmg, type 99 helmet, type 99 cannon etc

Sure hope the person on the radio doesn't mix up the request for the type 98 50mm mortar and the type 98 320mm mortar

[arctic talon]

Empire being recommended to new players is fucking horrid lol

Empire is hard lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah even the most simple empire lord is going to pray because he is surrounded by enemies that will grab him and proceed to do wicked stuff

It is cramped

Literally every direction has some kind of threat you have to deal with

[rocky gale]

I hear Eslpeth is real fun

[arctic talon]

She is

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah her artillery and missile infantry upgrades turn anything long range into a smoking pile of ash

[arctic talon]

downside you're still playing empire

LOL

the starting position of most Empire lords is

totally fucked

[queen laurel]

Yeah she took gelt's place

As the artillery lord

But she does have her gardens

Which makes it easier to defend places because you can build specialized buildings where she can just teleport to

Proper placement is key with the building tho

[rocky gale]

I'm glad CA lets you split up the DLC, because like I'd never play Nurgle or Dwarves, but Elspeth is my jam

[arctic talon]

She leans into the upside of Empire much more tbh

which is guns

because empire infantry fucking sucks lol

it exists to stall

[queen laurel]

Yeah her gunnery upgrades are fucked

And especially the amethyst units

[outer wave]

The only frontline I need are either slayers or gunnery mobs

Probably both

[queen laurel]

I use tamurkhan to punch a hole through your frontline

[outer wave]

I use gun

[arctic talon]

idk Empire is weird in that game

I don't dislike it

[outer wave]

Not because its effective; Im using them because thats all I have

[queen laurel]

I use the fact that he gets regeneration for the funny and i get blunderbusses and dread quake mortars

[arctic talon]

just lol

[outer wave]

Im going to continue using gun because thats all I ever produce

[queen laurel]

Well i bomb your position with a specialized army ability and you lose

[outer wave]

You could say I go out with a bang

[queen laurel]

Were they any better in the original table top game?

[arctic talon]

your basic infantry is kind of crap in that still lol

not as crap as bretonians or literal skeletons or skaven

but like

lol

[queen laurel]

I mean i wouldn't expect a human to breakthrough a line of iron breakers and black orcs

[arctic talon]

I think its weird people expect empire to be good at melee

they're normal humans

well "normal"

but still lol

They aren't elfs, or Dwarfs or Orcs lol

[outer wave]

They should be perfectly average at melee

Not the best but not ever close to the worst

[arctic talon]

They fall into the lower end because Chaos

Chaos, Elfs, Dwarfs and Orcs are kind of just better at melee

[outer wave]

Yuh that adds up

[arctic talon]

Empire falls above Bretonia(pesants), Skeletons, skaven, ect.

[queen laurel]

Yes expecting a human to win a fight against this thing using nothing more than sword is going to get them killed

[arctic talon]

I am not bringing up Ogres becauses they shit on everyone lol

[queen laurel]

Their basic infantry are literally monstrous

You need anti large frontlines to even stand up to them

[outer wave]

Dwarf infantry seems to be good against them

[arctic talon]

Dwarf infantry is very good at punching above its weight class

[outer wave]

Many of them are anti large and have anti charge defenses

[arctic talon]

they also are really fucking durable lol

[outer wave]

Mhmmmm

I noticed that when I was attacked by a green skin garrison, Skrag, and an 18 stack greenskin army

They hold those lines well

[queen laurel]

Dwarf infantry don't really hurt in the damage apartment but my god good luck getting rid of them

Their high armor and shueld

[outer wave]

Their leadership is also pretty good for the most part

[queen laurel]

Would keep them perfectly placed There

[queen laurel]

Yeah with buffs they are not moving

Good luck trying to punch a hole through a line of iron breakers without anti-infantry monsters

[outer wave]

Gonna try more dwarfs later with Malakai

[arctic talon]

Brave(for a skaven)

[dusk patrol]

The Empires whole deal was always superior tech and tactics to deal with the supernatural bullshit they get thrown at them

[arctic talon]

The power of hellfire batteries

[dusk patrol]

They outright say during various chaos incursions that every Northlander was taking on several Empire soldiers on average before they’d go down.

There’s some exceptional Empire dudes but generally speaking there’s a huge physical gap for melee

That’s why they just go

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-the-tank-engine-gif-22443299

[spring cairn]

well now you have doomseekers

[arctic talon]

gun > northlander tbh

[spring cairn]

and hammerers are t3 unit that hit hard aswell

[dusk patrol]

The game does a good job portraying steam tanks with all the stuff they slap on them.

[queen laurel]

Yeah slayers trade alot of defense for damage out put

[spring cairn]

doomseekers is a chosen tier dps powerhouse with anti-infantry bonus

[radiant lance]

Steel, faith, and gunpowder. This is what makes the empire great

[spring cairn]

and splash attack dmg

[outer wave]

Okay weird question: why dont Norscans/WoCs use guns? They absolutely use whatever they loot off of Empire folks so why dont we ever see the average Norscan using a musket?

[spring cairn]

and they get ward save the more they kill, up to 20%

[queen laurel]

Oof they are nasty with the slayer king i bet

[spring cairn]

they're apes

[arctic talon]

its hard to get more powder

[dusk patrol]

But yeah the Empire is a faction which has really fucking gold artillery and pretty great ranged and you use the melee to enable those

[arctic talon]

you need bullets

you need to maintain the gun

ect.

[dusk patrol]

No infrastructure

[queen laurel]

They live in the middle of nowhere

[arctic talon]

its a pain

for them to do that

[radiant lance]

Also magic

[queen laurel]

Materials are very hard to come by

[spring cairn]

i'm glad they reworked the steam tank in game

you can literally run over stuff

as a steam tank should

[dusk patrol]

The Empire had entire massive cities like Nuln devoted to making that stuff

And engineering better versions

[outer wave]

I love how most of you talk about how they have no infastructure or live in the middle of nowhere, then you got Lambda going "They're apes"

[dusk patrol]

Norscans norm was being heavily divided into tribes

[spring cairn]

norscans when 10 tons of steel

[dusk patrol]

They basically are

https://tenor.com/view/apes-together-strong-0p1sf-gif-20906166

[arctic talon]

Norscans are not known for being particularly

innovative

[spring cairn]

they like to unga the bunga

[queen laurel]

Yeah and the landship is pretty fun to turn into overdrive

[dusk patrol]

Every single time they got unified for a bit is when a new Everchosen popped up

And when they inevitably died they’d fall apart again

[queen laurel]

Being born in the middle of a freezing wasteland makes your way of thinking very feral

[dusk patrol]

Otherwise they’d just fight eachother or at best not interact

[radiant lance]

Kislev.

[dusk patrol]

Empire had actual colleges and whole groups build around sharing ideas and finding stuff

Yeah the Norscans didn’t want to be different

[radiant lance]

The empire had warrior priests, and tons of wizards too

[spring cairn]

kislev's freezing tundra is harsh but not as harsh as norsca's

and they can actually cultivate stuff there

[radiant lance]

Kinda can't forget the faith part of the empire

[queen laurel]

Yeah but they were able to trade with the empire and establish contact with civilized people and yes kislev is a lot better than the wasteland that is the home of norsca

[arctic talon]

Kislev's level of shit is less large then Norsca's

Norsca is like genuinely horrid to live in

[dusk patrol]

Kislev also wants to be unified

The Norscans never do

Unless you force it

They don’t view themselves as a single entity

They’re tribes which can be forced to fight together with a strong leader

[spring cairn]

they're very ork like actually

[queen laurel]

Yeah might makes right

They only follow the strongest

[dusk patrol]

And the chaos worship doesn’t help anything obviously

[spring cairn]

basically chaos orks

albion has neutral non chaos barbarians

[dusk patrol]

The fact that the chaos dwarves have a nation and infrastructure set up kinda plays into how dwarves inherently are anathema to Chaos

[arctic talon]

they're also less violent iirc

regarding albion lol

[spring cairn]

you could actually establish friendly contact with them yes

[dusk patrol]

There’s also pirates and other groups which aren’t as extreme as the Norscans

Who still do raid

[queen laurel]

Dwarves literally turn their skin into stone because apparently stone has anti magic properties in fantasy yeah?

[spring cairn]

i don't think stone does, it's just the dwarfs themselves

[dusk patrol]

They turn to stone because chaos mostly

[arctic talon]

^

[dusk patrol]

their body rejects it

[arctic talon]

only chorfs got that going on

[queen laurel]

Yeah i think i got that part from just stone trolls

Apparently they eat a lot of rocks and stuff and they just get magic resistance

[snow fern]

Dwarfs aren’t built for magic, so the chorfs petrify from it

[spring cairn]

yeah but we wouldn't know if regular dwarfs would be afflicted the same by normal magic since they just don't do that

[arctic talon]

this is true

[dusk patrol]

Chaos dwarves are literally twisting themselves into being evil and chaos worshipping despite their inherent nature

[spring cairn]

they have the based safe runic stuff to cast shit

[dusk patrol]

They mostly can’t even channel it I believe besides runes, it’s just chaos dwarves are being the power of chaos to do it

[spring cairn]

the only way dwarfs found to use a semblance of magic is to make it 100% safe

[snow fern]

Wild how you can just lose runes

[dusk patrol]

I think during the end times one becomes an avatar of a wind or whatever

One of the winds of magic

[spring cairn]

umgak writing

[celest dome]

Incarnates ?

[dusk patrol]

Yeah that

[celest dome]

Thorgrim become the Metal one (then Gelt become it)
Slayer King become fire one

[dusk patrol]

The issue as presented for Chaos Dwarves is also more chaos than magic

[spring cairn]

yeah but chaos doesn't just do the stone thing

they do get mutated somewhat

so imo it's more magic than chaos but since it's chaos magic sure it's worsened

[dusk patrol]

My point is them channeling the power of chaos does it

Others don’t channel it like that

Regardless the main point is, Chaos Dawi are a special brand of evil

Because how hard they have it work to be what they are

[spring cairn]

they also love being cruel

they find it very fun

because they're just evil

[storm jungle]

Lambda having a Vivid moment

[dusk patrol]

And ironically they caused their own demise in the end

[storm jungle]

they should have known slavery was bad smh

[queen laurel]

I will admit that somehow their way of redeeming themselves with the infermal guard is a lot better than a slayer cult

[storm jungle]

well to be fair it is

[dusk patrol]

The lesson: Don’t let the slaves revolt and get away with it

[storm jungle]

the Slayer Cult is suppose to be stupid

thats the point

they just look cool doing it

[spring cairn]

don't make better stronger more disciplined slave mostly

[dusk patrol]

It’s not meant to be sustainable

[storm jungle]

Yeah dwarves are self destructive to a point

[outer wave]

The Infernal Guard is also a way to prevent needless deaths in a society that has slower birth rates

[dusk patrol]

Most of them die really fast in it

[storm jungle]

its the whole point with them an dthe elves, they have lost their grip on the world that was once theirs

the Gotrek books especially explore this a lot

[dusk patrol]

And some become pirates somehow….

[storm jungle]

To be fair

would you say no to dwarven pirates

[spring cairn]

rule of cool on this one

[storm jungle]

^

[queen laurel]

Hey dying to a sea monster can be cool

[storm jungle]

also first rule of piracy

[queen laurel]

Jack sparrow did it

[storm jungle]

anyone can be a Poirate

[spring cairn]

also they're more mercs than pirates iirc

[snow fern]

They wanna fight Leviathans

[spring cairn]

they're just called pirates because they take to the sea

[storm jungle]

Also it makes sense considering slayers are both outcasts and would very much join with other groups just to fight a worthy death

[spring cairn]

and like money

[storm jungle]

like they are pariahs, nobody is gonna say no to a psychopath midget as a sidekick

ask Felix

[queen laurel]

Me watching Gotrek to be so bad at dying that he ends up in another world

[dusk patrol]

I lied, there is no treasure, now help me kill this 500 foot tall sea monster.

[spring cairn]

slayers are despised and more often than not, are actually insufferable, most dwarfs don't like them for good-ish reasons

there's a reason why they had to take the oath

[radiant lance]

Yar har, fiddle-dee-dee!
Being a pirate is alright with me.
Do what you want 'cause a pirate lives free.
You are a pirate!

[snow fern]

It seems you can be pretty loose with the slayer oath all things considered, both pirates and our engineer lord love their blackpowder

[dusk patrol]

At the end of the day they’re still dwarves

They can still have fun

[spring cairn]

just actively seek a worthy death and you're good

[dusk patrol]

They just have a goal of killing some dangerous shit

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah i forgot they based Bardin's pirate skin on this concept art

warhammer online my beloved

[outer wave]

I mean, likely some are actual scum, but some are probably like "They misconstrued a fact of their history and now must take up the slayer oath"

[dusk patrol]

They often go to assist different holds in need too

[spring cairn]

some but most are scums

[storm jungle]

Yeah some become slayers through dumb reasons

[snow fern]

Well if that one weird warhammer ship game is anything to go by, leviathans do be big

[queen laurel]

Bardin is one of the friendlier dwarfs right

[storm jungle]

Yeah he is

Bardin is EXTREMELY nice

[spring cairn]

slayer bardin also isn't cannon

[green loom]

He won't kill you for an off hand insult

[queen laurel]

Because their usual personalities are about as interesting as a stone

[snow fern]

Bardin is like the most tolerant dwarf ever

[dusk patrol]

He is

All the careers are

[storm jungle]

Correct.

most WHF dwarf personalities are on par with an actual pile of rock

[spring cairn]

only the dlc carriers iirc

[dusk patrol]

No they all are

[storm jungle]

Only DLC are canon yes

the others arent

[snow fern]

All of the U5’s careers are canon and not due to tzeentch personally screwing with them

[dusk patrol]

Time whimsy bullshit

There’s a story blog about it

[queen laurel]

So his actual job is an engineer

[storm jungle]

Well they arent canon its just a "oh they are different timelines"

[dusk patrol]

How some days Bardin is a slayer

[storm jungle]

DLC ones are the ones we got that are actually important

[dusk patrol]

Some days he’s a ranger

[green loom]

That blog just explains the gimmick, the base careers are the "Main" ones

[dusk patrol]

Same for the rest

[storm jungle]

no like

DLC careers get half the focus

they are the main canon ones lol

[radiant lance]

I remember reading one of those blogs posts where that grey wizard lady was screwing with them and made Bardin into a slayer

[spring cairn]

they have all the backstory

[snow fern]

Did that rework actually make Outcast Engineer good btw?

[outer wave]

So what the fuck happens with Sienna now that she's got necromancy and fire magic under her belt?

[dusk patrol]

It’s Tzeentch and they do switch careers and time lines and shit randomly

[snow fern]

Her twin is likely involved

[spring cairn]

sienna's dlc carrier is so cannon it's tied to 2 maps

[radiant lance]

She explodes later

[dusk patrol]

Story continues eventually

[outer wave]

Her twin IS involved

[snow fern]

A lot of wizards developed Necromancy because of the arrival of Nagash

[dusk patrol]

Her sister probably gets excommunicated

[outer wave]

Oh interesting

[dusk patrol]

Or whatever eventually

[outer wave]

Didn't her sister die?

I mean, as close as you can get with a necromancer

[dusk patrol]

She was a necromancer

[radiant lance]

Yeah we're post "Nagash fucks with the wind of death"

[snow fern]

Sofina is technically dead. But you know what they say about Necromancers, and twins, and she was Sienna’s Necromancer twin

[radiant lance]

Remember, Balthazar Gelt becomes a necromancer

[dusk patrol]

I feel like I shouldn’t have to explain why a necromancer dying might not be clear cut

[snow fern]

Kruber is so damn smart

Got that learned wisdom

[spring cairn]

kruber having to fight side by side with a necromancer when his original unit got wiped in front of him by a wind of death

[dusk patrol]

They all figure it out it’s just they can’t do anything rn

[radiant lance]

Frogs. Yep, frogs did it

Hilarious since he's actually right

[spring cairn]

really big frogs

[queen laurel]

And i will admit he takes it way too well

I thought his reactions would be more over reacted

[spring cairn]

yeah

[snow fern]

Saltz gives him so much shit for the frogs thing, one of my favorite banters

[dusk patrol]

Well he can’t exactly kill Sienna

[spring cairn]

he can't but he should've been more repulsed imo

[queen laurel]

Yeah but like i expected him to tell her that he feels a bit uncomfortable at least

[dusk patrol]

Same with Saltz, they care about her now

[storm jungle]

All of them are simply dissapointed in Sienna

[dusk patrol]

So they’re figuring it out

[storm jungle]

what Eternal said yeah

they've been fighting side by side too long to just be disgusted

[queen laurel]

I guess it's something

[snow fern]

They also (rightfully) suspect some degree of possession by sofina

[queen laurel]

Yeah i suppose that makes sense

[dusk patrol]

Now if it’s Kerillian

[storm jungle]

if you listen ot the dialogue Janfon has posted as a compilation most of them are pretty depressing lmao

[dusk patrol]

Based off the dialogue they have it pretty clearly figured out

They jsut can’t do anything rn

[storm jungle]

Bardin is probably uh, the most offended one along with Salts in some cases

SIENNA LITERALLY SAYS SHE CAN BRING HIS DEATH RELATIVE BACKS

LIKE THE FUCK

[outer wave]

They need an exorcist

[queen laurel]

I mean dwarf skeletons would be pretty tough

[spring cairn]

impressive considering it's way harder to work necromancy on a dwarf

[dusk patrol]

Somehow i don’t think that’s the issue

[storm jungle]

Vampire armies in lore tend to have anything from dwarves to other magical creatures so its not that difficult

[radiant lance]

warrior priest Saltzpyre arrives

[storm jungle]

that and its warhammer so

lore inconsistencies wooooooooooo

[spring cairn]

it's harder than human ones since dwarfs are naturally resilient to magic

[queen laurel]

me watching orcs to be the most consistent across all settings

[spring cairn]

same for elves

[crisp heath]

I thought warhammer dwarves were basically antimagical creatures

[storm jungle]

And most necromancy done to said races tends to be pretty powerful so again its not that big of a deal

[crisp heath]

Like they have to use special rune magic and normal magic doesn't work on them

[storm jungle]

the "they are resistant against magic" lore point is also almost a footnote in most books

[outer wave]

I'd imagine it's difficult for the average necromancer, and while a prominent vampire count may have some in his ranks, it's typically too much of a hassle to continue raising them

[celest dome]

And recomposed skeletons, think one of the books mention Dog or horse headed human skeletons

[storm jungle]

Yep yep

[snow fern]

Magic can be forcefully worked on them, it has some side effects, like the chorfs petrification

[storm jungle]

Eh so and so, the books with undead never really raise anything regarding dwarf/elven skelebones being hard to resurrect and parade around

i know because i read all the dreadful Von Carstein novels

[snow fern]

Resistant=/=immune

[outer wave]

OOF

[outer wave]

Yuh

[storm jungle]

ok i joke it wasnt that bad

Vlad is deffo a chad tho

shows up Day 1 and throws evil uncle of Isabelle out the window

Marries her on the spot

[outer wave]

Ngl if I had to be under a vampire count, it'd probably be Vlad

[snow fern]

I need to do a Volkmar campaign and beat up Manfred

[outer wave]

He seems relatively nice

[storm jungle]

Vlad is deffo the best

also surprisingly cares about his subjects

lmao

[snow fern]

Shame you can’t make him elector count of Sylvania

[spring cairn]

manfred ran off to the desert

can't beat the shit out of him with gelt anymore

and they sent gelt to china

[crisp heath]

I remember when I first picked up Gotrek and Felix after reading only 40k books for years, and like 4 stories in Felix has a girlfriend and I'm like "wait no the warhammer I know is emotionally and sexually repressed you can't do that"

[queen laurel]

He has one of the greatest power level scales in the setting

Having a genuinely working relationship

[snow fern]

So did Volkmar funnily enough, gonna team up with funny peasant lady and bully the tomb kings.

[outer wave]

Warhammer when a woman appears

[snow fern]

Shame they removed the loving relationship the dwarfs had, the karak eight peaks guy

[spring cairn]

you'll like Ciaphas Cain

[storm jungle]

Warhammer fantasy is very sexual

and its great lmao

the amount of off-screen sex in some books is

[snow fern]

Yet every lady he gets involved with dies horribly

[storm jungle]

Hes a sigma he can live with it

[snow fern]

Or becomes a vampire

[outer wave]

Wasn't there one that featured a girl raised by an ogre tribe and she fucks the MC?

[storm jungle]

Yes

lmao

[spring cairn]

not interested unless 10 pages of describing Gotrek's dongliz

[outer wave]

God

[queen laurel]

First book into the Gotrek and felix series and blonde boy already boned a girl

[crisp heath]

Until the last book that is

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

Two sacks of rippled muscle

[snow fern]

Man, I refuse to believe Felix died

[celest dome]

He'll get better

[spring cairn]

a true cannon of Zhufbar

[queen laurel]

At bare minimum at least he's definitely a storm cast

[storm jungle]

Hes dead until GW brings him back which will prob happen in AOS

he has an entire square named after him in the main Sigmarite city of Azyr

[crisp heath]

Anyway the fact that the only sexually active characters in 40k are a depressed veteran who thinks he's a fuckup and his sociopath war criminal girlfriend is the draw for me

[outer wave]

They'll call him Folix

[crisp heath]

It's a positive

[spring cairn]

they'll call him malerionix

[outer wave]

No no Feeliox

[storm jungle]

Felix isnt a copyrighted name

so

[crisp heath]

Follicle Yeller

[spring cairn]

they're lucky felix the cat is public domain

[storm jungle]

[spring cairn]

you get away this time gw

[crisp heath]

Felix do have catboy energy tho ngl

[outer wave]

Stop.

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-kruber-fall-over-fall-over-gif-26485764

[outer wave]

Don't.

No.

[snow fern]

Felinid lore time Idk

[storm jungle]

shut up 💀

[queen laurel]

And that is a hit in the strawberry tea bingo

[outer wave]

I'm not Felix-ening it Mr Krabs

[crisp heath]

I'm just saying I can't fix him but I can definitely domesticate him

[snow fern]

No way in hell you gonna housebreak felix

[outer wave]

STOP

NO

[queen laurel]

Say it again and i will throw you to the great maw

[outer wave]

LET HIM BE FERAL

LET HIM BE FREE

[outer wave]

Mr Feelinx I'm not feeling so good....

[spring cairn]

felix such a bro he can heal ur dudes just by fighting alongside them

[queen laurel]

Aight

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/felix-the-cat-the-twisted-tales-of-felix-the-cat-wink-wink-winking-feline-cartoon-character-gif-18028490

[rocky gale]

When I hear the name Felix my first thought is always cats because of this brand

[outer wave]

Oh thank God I for a moment thought I'd have to live as a Kriegsman forever

[snow fern]

I still can’t believe gw tried to copyright “Space Marine”

[queen laurel]

Hey man people will try to copyright the stupidest thing

[outer wave]

They tried it with Pauldrons too

[dusk patrol]

Companies always throw everything at the wall for copyrights

Legally you have to do it a lot of times

[snow fern]

But something so generic like, Ima copyright the word soldier

Or gun

[dusk patrol]

Also they probably were and did copyright space marine in reference to 40k

Law is complicate

More so when you make it many countries

[snow fern]

I got some real beef with how patent laws are abused in the US, but I generally get what you mean

[dusk patrol]

There’s never gonna be a perfect system

[spring cairn]

beautiful fellas

[snow fern]

Damn, they ate all the parrots

[crisp heath]

My friend has given me feedback on this series of posts and informed me the reason people had a strong reaction was because I did not incorporate puns. I will strive to do better in the future.

[queen laurel]

You're one of the most how do i say it

Unpredictable people i've met

I have yet to meet someone to counter someone saying he drinks nulm oil for nourishment with boil underwear and drink the broth

[crisp heath]

I'm pretty sure i said that specifically as part of a bet regarding new releases

[queen laurel]

Yeah i don't remember it much

[crisp heath]

Let's not check though because I don't want to find out I lost that bet

[queen laurel]

I just think it's pretty funny

[lunar harness]

Just abolish all intellectual property rights

all of them

knock off sonic backpacks everywhere

[arctic talon]

artists on suicide watch

[lunar harness]

Artists will still make money

intellectual property rights benefit corpos FAR FAR more than indie twitter artists

indie twitter artists cant send SWAT to your house to kill you and take your PC if you pirate their work

disney can and has and will continue to

🤷‍♀️

[arctic talon]

why the fuck is this stupid image of bootleg toys so large

goddamit lol

[raven stone]

Actually Wizards of the Coast genuinely did that.
Well, send Pinkertons to sieze leaked cards mailed by accident

[arctic talon]

I don't think any company has had someone executed via corporate death squad for piracy yet lol

[lunar harness]

pinkertons is a lot nicer than swat

and prison time

[lunar harness]

avengedjors

[raven stone]

Fair. Still not a pleasant thing from what I heard tho.

[arctic talon]

Nintendo sending police to raid someones house

still goes crazy lol

[raven stone]

Wait actually

[arctic talon]

I love Japanese companies

Yeah

[lunar harness]

All of them do, if you think intellectual property rights are for indie artists, writers and inventors well

thats what they want u 2 think

not to sound like a whacko but

[arctic talon]

I don't think they're just for them

lol

at al

[lunar harness]

literally disney lobbies for more restricted IP laws constantly

[arctic talon]

they def benefit companies with how they're written

[raven stone]

I think there is actually a dude who was released from prison on condition to pay Nintendo a portion of their own salary. Forever.
Because he used to crack games or something.

[snow fern]

I can’t believe the actual damn Pinkertons are still around

[arctic talon]

lol

simply be in a stand your ground state

/j