There are professional tennis athletes competing for world championships and Olympic medals and stuff, if that's what you mean
#40k-lore-chat
pine wedge
frosty stag
Guess im never gonna play any game involving a birdie
frosty stag
There are professional tennis athletes competing for world championships and Oly...
Yeah
pine wedge
Some of them are world famous like Roger Federer and Raphael Nadal
celest dome
What is going on ?
bold wren
If the God Emperor comes back he is probably going to kill the whole Ecclesiarch.
I mean I am just saying.
frosty stag
What is going on ?
Talking bout sports lore i think
I felt it was important to add how good at bowling i am to the conversation
orchid lark
If the God Emperor comes back he is probably going to kill the whole Ecclesiarch...
Kinda, didnt BobbyG ask him about that stuff, and all emps said was like, it’s outta my hands
bold wren
But if he had the power he would probably burn it down again.
orchid lark
The logistical investment to rid the massive imperium of the imperial creed and replace it with imperial truth is too high
bold wren
It's out of his power but he still hates religion.
There is a reason he got rid of all religion, and cults too. Anything like that he hated it.
orchid lark
He sees a means to an end, if he truly despised religion, the Machine Cult wouldnt have existed
Yet, he still allowed the mechanium to worship him as the avatar of the machine god from the get go
orchid lark
Then by that sentiment
The unfortunate truth of the Creed is that it is also a means to an end
bold wren
Ecclesiarch wasn't made by him.
orchid lark
He also allowed Baal to be religious because Sanguinius said dont kill them please
The esoteric and pseudo religious views of the Space Wolves?
Those two things werent made by him, same with the Machine Cult
The mission isnt Ultimate Reddit r/Atheism, the goal is for humanity as a singular cell as the sole inheritors and OWNERS of the galaxy
And I think having humanity evolve to becoming like the eldar, a psychic race.
Dilara can correct me on that
bold wren
Once again the man hated religion and disbanded it for good reason. However much like Guilliman it's kind of hard to disband it all.
orchid lark
Its not just hard, its stupid to do it with whats happening right now
Lets just go into another potential civil conflict whilst we got our pants around our ankles
crisp heath
And I think having humanity evolve to becoming like the eldar, a psychic race.
...
Humans were already evolving psykers, the Emperor wanted to control and refine the process so that they didn't, you know, explode into demons
orchid lark
Humans were already evolving psykers, the Emperor wanted to control and refine t...
Emperor out here forcing us to edge
orchid lark
Ogryns should be put to more work
bold wren
The tau are bad at melee combat because they do hit and run tactics.
And keep their distance
orchid lark
White Scars and Raven Guard are horrible at melee combat because they also do hit and run tactics
tulip brook
In a galaxy with main 4 religions are breaking reality, it's just understandable that he wanted none of that jazz
tough haven
A honorable ideal, but impossible to put into practice, pretty much how I’d sum up all of the emperors decisions
If he’d be more willing to accept limitations and make compromises you could nudge difficult groups into being more favorable to what you want, sure, it wouldn’t be 100% what you want, but that’s what compromise is
river walrus
Will say. Ogryn best choice. Simple mind? Simple life
wraith quartz
Hey, just want to know something...
rose thorn
Hey, just want to know something...
wraith quartz
What the Krak is a Grox??
rose thorn
its a space lizard cow
wraith quartz
Mmm
shadow plover
wraith quartz
Oooooo
celest dome
Bull sized lizard that is used for food, and leather
rose thorn
pretty sure they are carnavors
celest dome
but very agressive
rose thorn
thats why tey are drugged up to high hell
celest dome
So get sedated most of the time
wraith quartz
I thought it would be a bit more leathery hide than a scaly hide....
But teeth and horns make sense.
rose thorn
I thought it would be a bit more leathery hide than a scaly hide....
But teeth a...
pretty sure they jsut scrape the scales off
winged jacinth
10,000 years of selective breeding and genetic tinkering and we still cant make a grox that isnt an opium addict...
green loom
Do u want drugs made from drug infused cow shit
wraith quartz
My second thought of the beast, was a bipedal thick hide beast with large horns and gnarly teeth.
winged jacinth
its like kopi luak but instead of a cat pooping out half digested coffee beans, its a big evil cow pooping out half digested valiums
wraith quartz
Kinda like a small T-Rex type of stature
burnt maple
Who was I fangirling with about Godzilla a few days back?
spring cairn
the malnourished skavenslave staring at the 350kg bomb about to slam into his skull
river walrus
Urgh
versed ledge
Total war, for star wars? Just....how?
versed ledge
Star wars effectively fights like they're in WW2 still
With added tactical and strategic consideration for orbital control
versed ledge
I mean it can work for WW1 type of warfare
celest dome
If they want to do non historical cause those don't sell well, they should do a LotR or a Grand Mythology (not the half baked Troy system)
versed ledge
Old tactics and strategies meet industrial technology
There were cavalry charges in the war, and brutal close quarters combat
versed ledge
If they want to do non historical cause those don't sell well, they should do a ...
This would work
spare osprey
If they want to do non historical cause those don't sell well, they should do a ...
total war with a setting like age of mythology could be neat
storm jungle
burnt maple
Rip indeed.
green loom
Anyway this is clean af
burnt maple
Fucking gw and their stupidass suicidal politics.
storm jungle
this was back when they instantly cease and desisted everyone too
now they do it more under-wraps lol
burnt maple
"hey, you are a talented fan? Cool! How about we kill your love for our franchise and us?"
versed ledge
"hey, you are a talented fan? Cool! How about we kill your love for our franchis...
What prioritizing spreadsheets and legality does to a franchise
green loom
40k fans scary
versed ledge
Anyone here heard of trench crusade?
storm jungle
Yeah 40k "fans" tried to invade it lol
green loom
Holy shit, how clean that is.
Ikr?
versed ledge
Yeah 40k "fans" tried to invade it lol
Oof drama aside, I just read the lore sample of it. And I gotta say, it looks so METAL and cool
storm jungle
Yeah its a great setting super underrated
green loom
It probably got enough new fans from the drama lol
Same as how Femstodes lead to custards being sold out 
versed ledge
Makes one wonder how does anyone even hope to fight against millions of demons that can easily destroy someone's mind just by speaking?
green loom
They "lost" people there for tradcath larping
green loom
Makes one wonder how does anyone even hope to fight against millions of demons t...
Weaponized ignorance
burnt maple
Trench crusade?
versed ledge
That ain't tradcath, more of straight orthodox-crusaders on steroids larp
burnt maple
What do I miss again? Drama?
river walrus
Ngl if I wasn't making art for myself I wouldn't make 40k art <:KEKW_ogryn:10220...
Wut you mean? You make 40k art no?
young pecan
Weaponized ignorance
The warp if people were just nice to each other or something: 
green loom
Wut you mean? You make 40k art no?
Yeh cus I like it
river walrus
But why you say you would if already doing it?
green loom
But the online 40k community on the open spaces is pretty horribad
burnt maple
Wut you mean? You make 40k art no?
He meant that doing art of 40k for any other purpose but self is a road to damnation by gws friendliness.
green loom
I mean I will LIKELY get CnD'd if I mention commissions outloud
burnt maple
nuke sirens
river walrus
Oh... good thing you dont do commissions
green loom
Nope, not me, no sir
burnt maple
He just mentioned it.
green loom
river walrus
But he said if he did do that he couldnt draw
burnt maple
Be well, Ederius. Been nice knowing you. I can already sense gw's personal mercenaries storming your building.
versed ledge
Yo mod mind if I drop the paladin pic from trench crusade here?
green loom
Be well, Ederius. Been nice knowing you. I can already sense gw's personal merce...
If the Pinkertons don't get me then the Serbian taxman will
burnt maple
Eredius' John Wick arc when.
river walrus
If the Pinkertons don't get me then the Serbian taxman will
Ulgo have slavic accent do not worry will talk to him!
burnt maple
Ederius*
river walrus
Ulgo will be like dog in movie yes?
burnt maple
No, Ulgo will be like suit off John Wick.
river walrus
Get shot but live! Is what lil uns told Ulgo was what happened
burnt maple
Indestructible.
river walrus
Ulgo John Wick?
burnt maple
Depends. Can you kill a bunch of armed men with a pencil?
river walrus
Wots that?
burnt maple
A tool to write with. Or draw.
rocky gale
Regular pencil or Ogryn sized pencil?
river walrus
Yea that a good queshon larmoth
burnt maple
Wouldn't make a difference to John Wick. Will it to you, Ulgo?
river walrus
If it tiny Ulgo could use it. But yes, could kill them with pencil
burnt maple
Then yes! Ulgo John Wick.
river walrus
burnt maple
Fuck yeah it does say it! Love your energy, Brother.
wintry scarab
If you put our psyker and a space marine in a small arena, both have completely nothing on them, butt nude, would our psyker win?
wintry scarab
less goo us!
river walrus
If smite. Meybe. If assail yes. If brain burst yes yes
misty brook
Are Goliaths just as strong or a little bit weaker than Ogryns. Because I know they have more muscle bulk than Space Marines.
sacred ginkgo
"Oh shit a space marine" loud crunching noise
Just
Will the space wizard or the big dude win
winged jacinth
goliaths from necromunda probably arent quite as strong as an ogryn
they're big and strong, but ogryn are truly enormous and stronger than light tanks
dusky scroll
Is this channel only for information and objective stuff or opinions and current affairs on 40k too?
outer wave
Yes
arctic talon
Is this channel only for information and objective stuff or opinions and current...
It’s supposed to be just for lore, sometimes it drifts off topic though
tough haven
Will the space wizard or the big dude win
idk, you tell me
storm jungle
Will the space wizard or the big dude win
plush mason
who is the main character in the story?
radiant lance
Me justifying my depression
radiant lance
who is the main character in the story?
John darktide
plush mason
is he the space wizard or the big dude?
young pecan
If smite. Meybe. If assail yes. If brain burst yes yes
I think if smite then psyker 100% loses, he just gets the ten extra seconds of eye contact to make peace xd
Assail and definitely BB got big chances though
radiant lance
If you decide to power scale 40k for whatever asinine reason, psykers can often overpower a space marine
Really, the zealot and the guardsman are probably the weakest on the team
winged jacinth
Well we're all Main Characters which changes things ofc
But in general a space marine is only marginally more resistant to psykers than a guardsman
radiant lance
And psykers can get pretty ridiculous if they spawn with good RNG
Like the psykers who literally had enough power to mind control a system
plush mason
kinda hard to beat someone that can just snuff out your soul with a glance
young pecan
If you decide to power scale 40k for whatever asinine reason, psykers can often ...
It's definitely possible and very variable depending on the power level and type of the psyker, but I was really just basing it off of the powers we get in the game. I feel like it's a pretty fair assessment
crystal forum
i must bring up the time a soul drinker story had a psyker entity so powerful that it nearly became a chaos god
ben counter does not hold back
rose thorn
I love how the chaos gods usually like their first captains more then the primarchs
It’s like
Kinda insanely deep but also baller as shit
unborn phoenix
Is angron happy with the state he's in or is he just gone mentally?
arctic talon
Is angron happy with the state he's in or is he just gone mentally?
he is pretty much gone mentally
plush mason
was he ever happy with this state of being?
plush mason
afaik he only became a daemon because the nails flat out kill him in a fight with one of the loyalist Primarchs
so Lorgar shit a brick and made him into the daemon on the spot
rose thorn
Is angron happy with the state he's in or is he just gone mentally?
Considering his favorite moment in life is the few seconds of pure peace he feels every time he dies. Probably not okay.
unborn phoenix
I've summarized a good amount of lore in 40k includes a lot of "what ifs"
thorn zenith
unborn phoenix
His receding hair says otherwise
bold wren
As said magnus has always been in the wrong.
The Emperor said so himself.
Obviously.
celest dome
Nothing that came from the Emperor was right
bold wren
I mean he sees things in as much as a person without their glasses. He sees things but in fragments.
orchid lark
He shouldnt be the one driving then
dusk patrol
You don’t need the Emperor to say Magnus was wrong to know he was wrong
You can just have two eyes and be able to read
Or two ears and able to listen to the books
unborn phoenix
Fulgrim is like the one traitor the emperor had no hand in lol
celest dome
Had he not hid the truth about Chaos, maybe Fulgrim wouldn't have fallen
rocky gale
"Had the Emperor not" is like the tagline for everything that goes wrong in the Horus Heresy
bold wren
To be honest it wasn't his fault.
The Emperor quite literally built a wall to keep daemons out. But to be honest he was right people used psykers foolishly and the Imperium suffered from it.
Psykers attract daemons and many unsanctioned psykers made this worse. Even Horus believed this.
orchid lark
I wish I could pole polish just like you
unborn phoenix
It couldn't be helped half his sons were dense as hell
mighty summit
Like Father like Son
unborn phoenix
The emperor has too many schemes and plans for him to be seen as trustworthy or be taken at face value lol
crisp heath
Fulgrim was the chaos MVP tbh
Dude was racking up primarch kills by the time he ran into the Eye of Terror
unborn phoenix
He has one
crisp heath
Well ig he only killed 2 primarchs but that's twice as many as anyone else
unborn phoenix
Malcador can also kinda be counted as killing the most
If you believe the theory anyway
crisp heath
Anyone who says Guilliman wasn't functionally dead is just being a stickler for details, he spent the next 10,000 years in a box and his heart stopped
unborn phoenix
He was technically down but not out and just needed a rez
That doesn't count as a kill lol
crisp heath
He did need to die to wake up though, Yvraine literally said "already let's turn off his life support"
So he was functionally dead and got a real resurrection
unborn phoenix
That would mean she killed him
Fulgrim got the kill assist
It's not the same lol
crisp heath
Fulgrim also beat Ferrus twice, he just decided not to kill him the first time
unborn phoenix
Ferrus had no plot and someone writing obviously didn't like him
crisp heath
Fulgrim does consistently body other primarchs
Perturabo killed Fulgrim, but Fulgrim let him do it because killing his physical body was how he became a daemon and Fulgrim pretty explicitly had complete control of the situation
unborn phoenix
Body probably taken literally there
Mortatian has fair amount of wins under this belt as well
It seems like Magnus keeps losing though
crisp heath
Yeah Magnus doesn't really win fights that often lmao
Who's the big loser on the loyalist side? Maybe Lion?
Lion got his ass whipped by Luthor and Horus tricked him pretty good. He got a hold of Curze but like, who hasn't beaten up Curze.
Guilliman loses pretty often too, especially to other primarchs, but the guy has been resurrected twice and never really had consequences for losing fights because he's the Important Boy
unborn phoenix
Only loyalist who had wins was corvus and he's not even really present
crisp heath
Dorn killed one of the twins
unborn phoenix
Or did he
crisp heath
Guilliman ALLEGEDLY killed the other
unborn phoenix
Or did he
crisp heath
Nah Dorn pretty clearly killed one of them, Guilliman's kill is the questionable one
unborn phoenix
I love the alpha legion aesthetic scale armor but damn I hate the logic of the shit
crisp heath
It's not as confusing as people paint it
Like the alpha legion memes are just fans acting like conspiracy theorists
unborn phoenix
Even though he says everything he says is the truth but that is a lie
crisp heath
There are alpha legion mysteries, but it's not as messy as people say
Like we do know Dorn killed one for sure, probably Alpharius, but Guilliman probably just believes he killed the other
unborn phoenix
Nachos messy or chilli dog messy?
But dorn lost a hand and disappeared
Not like capturing him will do any good he's too stubborn
green loom
Even if Alph dying wasn't explicit the AL ditch the traitor war effort immediately after
unborn phoenix
I require more corvus activities and space sharks
raven stone
Alpha Legion kind of self-splintered due to everyone in it plotting against everyone, partially including themselves.
Even as someone who likes them, I see that issue.
river walrus
Need more ogryn stories
dusky scroll
It’s supposed to be just for lore, sometimes it drifts off topic though
Where do people discuss about "opinions and current affairs" of 40k without the risk of getting silenced for rule breaking?
rocky gale
Depends what you mean by "Rule breaking?"
Like doesn't matter where you talk, if you're directly breaking the rules you're probably gonna get in trouble.
green loom
Yeah like if you're actively breaking rules 4 and 11 then uh lol
storm jungle
Where do people discuss about "opinions and current affairs" of 40k without the ...
We dont "silence" anyone unless they are being bigoted or acting like assholes so not sure what's that suppose to mean.
You can talk about anything you want, just don't be a dick lol
dusky scroll
We dont "silence" anyone unless they are being bigoted or acting like assholes s...
Of course not. What I meant was, most discord servers generally follow a relatively strict rule about topics in each text channels. 1-2 question or comment can slip in without any issue but not a whole discussion.
But I'm worried if the topic can start a conflict of opinion.
I wanted to ask about the recent reaction of the community from 40k lore retcon and whole Henry Cavill situation. Since, the topic is entirely a subjective thing and everyone has their own opinion, I wasn't sure if this is the right topic for a channel named "Lore chat".
green loom
We usually discuss it here
rocky gale
There isn't really a Henry Cavill situation tbh
storm jungle
That entire Cavill thing comes from 4chan which is infamous for having extremely flimsy "leaks".
green loom
*Wait what Henry Cavill situation? He's still making the show*
Fake 4chan leak saying he's "Grr angry and leaving"
rocky gale
It's just grifters who're taking a troll post as fact
outer wave
Ah yes that
dusky scroll
There isn't really a Henry Cavill situation tbh
The rumor surrounding Henry is still having effect on people. Whether a rumor is true or not, they usually make impact on a developing situation.
rocky gale
The rumor surrounding Henry is still having effect on people. Whether a rumor is...
It's not even a rumour
It literally came from a troll post
Where a guy says at the end "Source my dad works at Nintendo"
green loom
I mean there's a pretty specific group we're referring to
dusky scroll
It literally came from a troll post
Yes, the troll created a rumor.
Origin of it is usually irrelevant.
storm jungle
I mean there's a pretty specific group we're referring to <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718...
^
Not really the same thing at all lol
green loom
Like you would've seen them here every day for some 2 weeks or so
storm jungle
Also like the female custodian thing is literally the dumbest thing you can ever be "upset" about.
Its just a case of "who cares" or "I like it"
outer wave
Or even "I dislike it but not enough to make a spat about it" idk
rocky gale
Like the sudden arrival of the Votann are basically the same scale of lore change, but nobody complained about that
dusky scroll
Also like the female custodian thing is literally the dumbest thing you can ever...
At the end of the day GW is here for business. The online debates are creating so much smoke screen, it's difficult to assume how much of the community is okay with it and how much are not.
rocky gale
and it was the exact same of "Yea they've always been there, we just haven't mentioned it until now" it's standard GW practice for adding things to the story
green loom
At the end of the day GW is here for business. The online debates are creating s...
The community is mostly fine with it
Exemplefied mainly by Custodes being wholesale sold out 
The arguments kinda just signal boosted everything and got some Grift youtubers to cover it
Why do you Browse HorusGalaxy
rocky gale
Bro did not just quote a guy with that username
outer wave
r/Horusgalaxy
Bro I'm sorry but that place gets weird
rocky gale
Horusgalaxy is not a good place
storm jungle
At the end of the day GW is here for business. The online debates are creating s...
When stuff like this happens its basically
- 90% of the fandom does not care at all for the positivity or negativity because they are just here to play/paint minis
- 10% who are the online vocal minority Complains/Fights a lot then its forgotten in like a month or so
storm jungle
it was the same with primaris
people kept saying "40k is dead"
"im leaving"
PEOPLE BURNT THEIR FIRSTBORN 💀
otherwise tho yeah
green loom
people kept saying "40k is dead"
"Primaris killed warhammer"
dusky scroll
it was the same with primaris
I started going in 40k after Primaris became a thing. That also created a chaos like this?
green loom
I started going in 40k after Primaris became a thing. That also created a chaos ...
Yeah
Well yeah because it's filled with weird incels who got banned from everywhere else lol, it's why it exists
green loom
I started going in 40k after Primaris became a thing. That also created a chaos ...
You'll notice these guys around, typically referred to as "Grognards"
That or oldheads
"Everything was better 10 years ago/in 6th ed!" etc.
Just misplaced Nostalgia
Basically
dusky scroll
I just glanced through that subreddit. I'm confused. What is this subreddit is about? Like, what's topic/specialty that makes them any different?
green loom
I just glanced through that subreddit. I'm confused. What is this subreddit is a...
They got banned for breaking rules about hate speech and made their own "censorship free" space where the mods let you be bigotted
Though if you dare to say anything they deem "woke" you are immediately dog piled
dusky scroll
The female custodes thing started in April, right?
green loom
I'm not being hyperbolic or anything that shit is full of stuff like "LGBT people are subhuman degens who worship slaanesh"
green loom
The female custodes thing started in April, right?
Yeah early-mid april give or take
rocky gale
People forget that "They've always been there, we just never mentioned them" is literally standard operating procedure for GW when they change or add to the lore, it's not some new big thing from GW trying to gaslight people with the fem Custodes.
Dark Eldar added in 3rd edition "They've always been there, we just never mentioned them"
Tau added in 3rd edition "They've always been there, we just never mentioned them"
Deathwatch added in 3rd edition "They've always been there, we just never mentioned them"
Grey Knights added in 3rd edition "They've always been there, we just never mentioned them"
Necrons added in 2nd edition "They've always been there, we just never mentioned them"
Sisters of Silence added in 5th edition "They've always been there, we just never mentioned them"
Votann added in 9th edition "They've always been there, we just never mentioned them"
Oh yea, it's "Uncensored" which means it's an Alt Right cesspit where they ban anyone they disagree with.
green loom
Yes
rocky gale
Yea
green loom
What you expected these guys to be honest and not hypocritical bigots?
it fits their definition of "Lets me be racist"
rocky gale
Like I've seen people banned for posts like "People might be overreacting, things aren't that bad" and the reason being things like "Woke argument baiting"
outer wave
Sorry I did a really quick skim of this, but from what I got was basically guy thinks that there should be male centered hobbies. The thing is, I agree but I also realize that 40k, among other war games, will always be male centric. No one is going to stop guys from getting their armies together, getting a table ready, and shooting the shit while drinking and having a good time, not even if women or others start coming into the war gaming scene.
Guy also got weird a bit with the "Girls are told to be themselves, but we're told to act more like girls!" bit but whatever
green loom
Sorry I did a really quick skim of this, but from what I got was basically guy t...
I bet he loves the 4chan "hobby replacement theory" lol
outer wave
Ah yeah men mental health is horrid as of late
green loom
Bullshit
outer wave
Explain
outer wave
Yeah that part I was referring to as weird
green loom
It's not what's written but consider his wording in the entire article and also the subreddit he's fucking posting in
green loom
It's common as fuck for these idiots to dress up their shitty opinions in the cloak of "I just want to have fun" or some other faux-reason
outer wave
I do think opening up and being honest with yourself and others is based
green loom
Yeah but you know what's encouraged in male dominated spaces 
outer wave
It's not womanly, it's just not macho
static ginkgo
I do think opening up and being honest with yourself and others is based
I am always wrong 
green loom
You've not been around much
rocky gale
Gotta say it's a bad post
green loom
Yeah like it's literally just dressed up to look reasonable
static ginkgo
Traditional masculinity values modesty, humility and to not be prone to outbursts of passion. just want to put that out there
rocky gale
"Men are VOCALLY encouraged to have better mental health but this is almost exclusively done by PRACTICALLY suggesting that they behave more like women: "share their emotions, talk, open up, be vulnerable"."
These are not womanly traits, these are human traits.
green loom
Traditional masculinity values modesty, humility and to not be prone to outburst...
Now what happens when said masculinity is enforced by a bunch of weird idiots
It turns toxic
rocky gale
Also the entire thing reeks of "I want to be able to act like an ass and I can't do that when women are around"
static ginkgo
No one is enforcing masculinity imo, there's definitely some very insecure people out there who never had someone in their life teach them what masculinity is
green loom
(Like the above poster probably lol)
No lemon the dude's basically advocating for toxic masculine spaces lmao
static ginkgo
I mean, if they want to have a space for themselves they can have it, who cares
green loom
Yeah no one would stop them
rocky gale
Yea I see it a lot people online will basically defend Male spaces as "We can't act like guys if girls are there", if you can't act that way when girls are around, then maybe you shouldn't be acting that way?
green loom
Real
river walrus
Or
green loom
Ogryn Wisdom
outer wave
I love Ogryn Wisdom
static ginkgo
Yea I see it a lot people online will basically defend Male spaces as "We can't ...
Imo, if girls have girl only spaces, guys should have guy only spaces, they're both unhealthy to me, but both should have them if they so choose
river walrus
Not listen to others talk bad about your hobby. What do they know of it? Nuthin thats what
green loom
Imo, if girls have girl only spaces, guys should have guy only spaces, they're b...
Yuh obviously, the issue here is more that the dude is trying to sell the idea that women being in a space means that space is compromised
static ginkgo
Yuh obviously, the issue here is more that the dude is trying to sell the idea t...
Well that's what friend groups are for, you just choose who you let in
static ginkgo
I mean I don't agree with Female Custodes, but it's not because they're female, it's because they changed years and years of lore calling them a brotherhood, sons, etc etc
outer wave
Women in my space high fantasy science fiction setting makes it more girly for me....
static ginkgo
Especially since they're doing it just to you know, pander
green loom
Especially since they're doing it just to you know, pander
You've been a refreshingly calm voice about it if it's any consolation
Though i disagree it's just pandering
green loom
ADB and co have wanted it for years
spring cairn
Either CA is planning on stretching itself thin
Or the TWW40k fans are in shambl...
source even less credible than legend of total war's sources
green loom
Since Master of Mankind or so iirc
Before that and their addition in Horus Heresy they had like, minimal lore if any
outer wave
I mean I don't agree with Female Custodes, but it's not because they're female, ...
The thing is, you probably won't even notice because they're all 10 ft plus tall super demi God soldiers likely wearing similar armor if not the same shit. Very little changes
river walrus
If ask about spaces. Sometimes it good to have own space. Sure if it public place then it can get hard to enjoy, but! If it werent public then you wouldnt be there. But, if really need yer own space for ya, thats what frends are for. Real frends a mean.
rocky gale
Imo, if girls have girl only spaces, guys should have guy only spaces, they're b...
It's a similar idea to the "Third place" somewhere you can go to get away from things etc, which is fine in concept. But a lot of the time people end up using these spaces as a place to act in a way that they know is inappropriate because it's "shielded" nature
static ginkgo
In my mind if it wasn't pandering it would've been that way from the start, if you want something different, atleast find a way to introduce them that's still accurate to the mass source material. I'd be cool with that, but since it's a significant lack of adherence to the lore it just doesn't feel like it's in my best interest
green loom
They wanted to include them at the start per ADB
But some GW exec told them off because the models were made and they kinda didn't think about it lol
It's a marketing thing
static ginkgo
Sure but, they could find a way, in lore, to make the custodes be able to also be female
green loom
And I wouldn't say it's significant
outer wave
If ask about spaces. Sometimes it good to have own space. Sure if it public plac...
I like that answer Ulgo
static ginkgo
Why change previous lore so drastically
green loom
It isn't drastic or significant
rocky gale
Let me get my previous post
green loom
They just have ladies now and the biggest differences is a pronoun or two here and there
river walrus
A mean yes makin frends hard but, if they answer ya back with what they think is right. Dem true frends
rocky gale
This is and will always be how GW handle lore changes and it's what they do with every edition
The one time they didn't do this was with the Primaris and everyone hated it
Well I didn't
Because Primaris are cooler than Firstborn
But not everyone is as smart as me
static ginkgo
I personally disagree, I'm so indifferent to biological sex that just having someone with different reproductive organs doesn't have any meaningful impact to me. Or in general I think. Which is why it feels like they're pandering to try to encompass a larger audience
green loom
I personally disagree, I'm so indifferent to biological sex that just having som...
Yeah but they aren't
river walrus
If it new and more powerfull. A fink to maself. Wonder if i could kill it
static ginkgo
Maybe it's just because of my view that sex really shouldn't be considered because it doesn't matter
green loom
You should apply that indifference here because it's a genuinely just a minor change
It got blown waaaaaay out of proportion
spring cairn
I've grown to despise star wars with every fiber of my being, so absolutely fuck that
celest dome
I personally disagree, I'm so indifferent to biological sex that just having som...
Wait you don't care at all about the gender of the character but you're still against there being both gender now ?
static ginkgo
You should apply that indifference here because it's a genuinely just a minor ch...
I do, I'm looking at it objectively, if it was so minor why change it? That's why I feel like I'm pandered towards if that makes sense.
outer wave
I think this whole thing would've been much more significant if it were female space marines
green loom
I do, I'm looking at it objectively, if it was so minor why change it? That's wh...
But if it's so minor, why is changing it problematic?
rocky gale
TBF they sort of do treat it like it doesn't matter, it's just "Here's a story about a Custodes who's a woman" like the whole story isn't about their gender, it's just a footnote that marks their existence
static ginkgo
Wait you don't care at all about the gender of the character but you're still ag...
I'm against them breaking lore integrity for really small changes
rocky gale
But it doesn't really break lore integrity, also GW has no lore integrity
green loom
I'm against them breaking lore integrity for really small changes
How do you like 40k then
celest dome
Lore intergrity is not hurt in the slightest
green loom
40k lore integrity is so fragile that a stiff breeze causes sweeping changes
There's no "sacred solid" canon, even the codices are mostly just flavour text propaganda
outer wave
40k is almost like Fate lore: there is always an exception to the rule.
celest dome
Like introducing Fem SM
Yes that change quite a lot cause it's currently cannon that there can only be Male SM, but Custodes never had such a lore point
static ginkgo
How do you like 40k then
It's mainly pretty good honestly, but it can be cheap and annoying, I was just as annoyed when the made the failure that abbadon is be like "oh teehee, he actually accomplished something vewy vewy secwet on does faiwed cwusades"
rocky gale
The classic tagline for 40k lore is "Everything is canon, not everything is true"
static ginkgo
I was like, wow that's cheap imo
static ginkgo
Like introducing Fem SM
Yes that change quite a lot cause it's currently cannon ...
Weren't they for years always reference as a brotherhood? Emperor's sons (I think?)
green loom
The brotherhood of assassins wasn't all male
Brotherhood doesn't really mean anything
rocky gale
Brotherhood of Steel aren't all men
spring cairn
star wars is too safe, most boring shit backed up by fucking disney
static ginkgo
It means a gathering of brothers technically
spring cairn
i hate most corps but they up there
green loom
Yeah technically but in practice in fiction it's typically not all male
static ginkgo
Perhaps I'm just tired of large scale companies pandering to me to sell more products, especially when it's obvious, everything just feels like a corporate scheme to sell me more things and I'm probably just jaded
rocky gale
Because of the way the english language is structured male is seen as the default
green loom
Perhaps I'm just tired of large scale companies pandering to me to sell more pro...
You must hate space marines then lol
static ginkgo
Because of the way the english language is structured male is seen as the defaul...
That's most latinizised languages
rocky gale
So a Sisterhood is a collection of Sisters, but a Brotherhood is not neccesarily a collection of brothers
celest dome
Brotherhood and Fraternities don't mean that there aren't women
static ginkgo
You must hate space marines then lol
Vehemently yes
static ginkgo
I hate the circle jerk around space marines
green loom
A nothing burger change that really shouldn't matter as much as it does
Like even in the dex they don't make a fuss about it
It's custodes lore that would exist regardless just with "he"s instead of "she"s
rocky gale
Also the whole "Abbadons victories were retcons" is fake lore
static ginkgo
I mean I don't care truly, it's a made up universe it'll never affect me, but I find it annoying on the same grounds of Matt Ward space marines
rocky gale
Since 2nd edition Codex's have mentioned the Black Crusades achieving their goals
The only real retcons involved the exact outcomes of the 13th Crusade because it was tied to audience participation
But the other Crusades were always successful with seperate targets
static ginkgo
Codex's have always talked up factions and units while crazy, nothing is more biased than codex's in fairness
static ginkgo
I salute your consistency
I also hate the end times in fantasy lore
spring cairn
everyone does am pretty sure
green loom
I mean that in particular is pretty universally hated because even if you didn't hate the idea it was handled very poorly lol
rocky gale
Yea Endtimes was done poorly, it's broadly agreed
green loom
What with entire characters being forgotten and shit
rocky gale
and other characters did random 180's
green loom
We got AoS out of it so I forgive it but ouchies
spring cairn
character who weren't forgotten and did a big 180 yeah
rocky gale
Good guys became Daemons, bad guys become heroes
static ginkgo
We got AoS out of it so I forgive it but ouchies
You know how I feel about space marines so my favorite setting dying to get Fantasy Space marines had me punching air
outer wave
"Malekith was to be the true ruler this whole time!!"
rocky gale
Yes Malekith the enslaver was actually the true and glorious Noble King all along.
spring cairn
it's molderion or something now
green loom
1st Ed Stormcast blew ass
outer wave
I like his original name more
rocky gale
Yea Malekiths Endtime change was so dumb that AOS ignored it
outer wave
I love the idea of an end times though
spring cairn
i don't like aos at all it's not my thing, but the minis are just good visually
outer wave
It's just pulled off so extraordinarily badly
rocky gale
AOS went "No he's not a good guy, he's an evil Shadow monster now"
green loom
I love the crow-based demigryph so much
green loom
Only good thing to come from end times was Vermintide
Guess who wrote that
river walrus
Ulgo wanted Sigmar be cool
rocky gale
and the main bad thing to come from Endtimes was Old World
spring cairn
nostalgia farming peaked that day
river walrus
spring cairn
old world would've been so fine if they actually did new minis and also new factions added in tww
rocky gale
Genius marketing move by GW, screw Warhammer Fantasy so badly that fans never forget, then wait 10 years and sell them the same minis for massively inflated prices
spring cairn
Kislev is getting minis at least right
green loom
Kislev is getting minis at least right
Not this edition
spring cairn
yeah ik, but at some point
river walrus
Victor bestest
green loom
Probably yeah
spring cairn
unlike cathay which is probably never
rocky gale
Fantasy is ironically only as popular as it is because Endtimes was so bad
spring cairn
it got 2 of the best franchise of all warhammer labelled video games to help when end times hit aswell
rocky gale
If Endtimes had of been mediocre or decent, then the setting probably would have faded into obscurity, but the outrage over Endtimes kept the community alive and growing.
spring cairn
tww1 and vermintide both released in 2015 which is when the end times ended iirc
rocky gale
AOS supremacy
green loom
Just needs some headswaps for diff helmets
rocky gale
I gave mine one of the unhelmeted heads from the Morvenn Vahl kit to give it a Joan of Arc feel
green loom
Oo
raven stone
Kinda not lore and more GW but
Isn’t the reveal for 40k stuff supposed to be coming 1.5 hrs later?
GW’s been suddenly awfully quiet about it…
arctic talon
GW’s been suddenly awfully quiet about it…
They're always quiet about it before the actual reveals tbh
raven stone
They're always quiet about it before the actual reveals tbh
On the one hand, true.
On the other hand…I almost expected the Twitch link would be up on the Warhammer Community page lol.
But then again it could just be me being too eager
(To see what the things are)
arctic talon
Nah
It’s usually last minute lmao
It’s kind of funny
Sometimes the stream starts before the link is up
raven stone
Rofl
celest dome
What stream is it ?
arctic talon
What stream is it ?
40k/30k preview
arctic talon
yep!
celest dome
That's great
Forgot what the theory for the next Necromunda thing was
GSC ? I think
celest dome
Did they finish the thing with the brewery ?
arctic talon
I don't remember ngl
arctic talon
new SoB units
static ginkgo
Make necromunda great again
celest dome
Necromunda is quite good rulewise atm
raven stone
Ad Mech returning in force for HH
celest dome
The Magos Prime look good
dusk patrol
Man I hate it when GW jumps the canon like this.
celest dome
2 Castelax
6 Thalax
1 Triaros
20 Adseculari
That's not a bad battle box
arctic talon
its very good
but I'm not gona be using the thralls or thallax in HH lol
6+ and 4+ save
arctic talon
Cult of the second son
celest dome
So it's following the Brewery stuff
outer wave
Man I hate it when GW jumps the canon like this.
"They jump now?!"
"They jump now."
shadow plover
that hive secundus stuff looked so fucking good
celest dome
Both Necromunda guys have non English accent
I think one is French no ?
Would have prefered a full Spyrer gang
shadow plover
yeah this season is a must buy for me even if I won't get anyone to play it with me
queen laurel
yeah this season is a must buy for me even if I won't get anyone to play it with...
holy shit i did not have to see that
dusk patrol
What if genestealers but a little busted
queen laurel
that looks amazingly horrific
arctic talon
that looks amazingly horrific
queen laurel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713403094708387841/1241453143703945226/im...
Average basement dwelling Custodes fan
queen laurel
the adeptus mechanicus tries to "cure" genestealer hybrids
of course
raven stone
Slightly sad at the lack of potential summer Agents reveal, but overall quite nice.
Loved the return of the Spyrer mini even thought the new lore means I can’t have it for a Rogue Trader (due to now having to do extensive surgery to wear the suit)
celest dome
Id guess that there are various pattern of Spyrer armour
Well various Orrus
I know there are other types
dusk patrol
Like the point of RT stuff is you can get exotic within reason
celest dome
Love the Matriarch
dusk patrol
It’s easy to explain why one or two of these guys might join a rt
celest dome
Different ways to prove themselves and such
But I think IRT's though was about a RT wearing one
dusk patrol
celest dome
Change a lot
queen laurel
Change a lot
are there other type of human-sized war suits like this
dusk patrol
Probably trickle out some more as the year goes on and time goes on
celest dome
Probably trickle out some more as the year goes on and time goes on
I'd guess they will be released alongside Ganger forces
Suppose Esher will have the Matriarch
Goliath with Patriarch
queen laurel
All part of the Spyrer
so can my rt modify these to basically imitate warmachine?
queen laurel
Cause that’s stupid
yes it is then
celest dome
Malcadon with Delague
Yeld with Orlok
Jakaras with Cawdor
celest dome
so can my rt modify these to basically imitate warmachine?
The Patriarch could i guess
queen laurel
The Patriarch could i guess
nice my RT is going to have a blast
rocky gale
Jesus how many weapon options does the Canoness have
Do they know this model is made for 10th edition?
Hand Flamer, Power Sword, Power Mace, an Eviscerator and a Halberd
arctic talon
variety is the spice of life
for the mace and sword
evisc and halberd might share the same profile
mace and sword def gona share the same one
rocky gale
Think Mace and Sword will share since they're just listed as "Power weapon and hand flamer"
But I think eviscerator and halberd will be different
Also that respirator head looks great
The default Seraphim don't have that do they?
green loom
Hand Flamer, Power Sword, Power Mace, an Eviscerator and a Halberd
Don't forget dual pistols
arctic talon
The default Seraphim don't have that do they?
they do
rocky gale
Can they do duel pistols?
green loom
Yes
rocky gale
Not on the community page
rocky gale
Hmmm
green loom
We'll see
rocky gale
Weird
Yea the article says it has 3 head options, bare head, hooded head and respirator
The Battleforce is tempting
rose thorn
Honestly, I really really like the new gsc combat patrol
rose thorn
Necromunda destroying 40k as ever
Also HOLY SHIT NOT ONLY NEW GENESTEALERS, NEW GENESTELAER CULT UPGRSDE SPRUE
I’ll probably buy 1 of the old box
And then the new battle force
And the new cb
GSCS FEASTING TODAY
rocky gale
The new Sisters Patrol is alright
Sucks it doesn't have any vehicles, but it's full squads
and it's a nice round box for new players I guess
rose thorn
its a upgrade sprue for the hive scum isn't it?
It’s a genestealer cult themed upgrade sprue for the outcasts
arctic talon
ah
rose thorn
New weapons and heads
rose thorn
Also serviyors!!
arctic talon
cure them
rose thorn
Hopefully these new admehc models get 40k rules
arctic talon
Hopefully these new admehc models get 40k rules
they won't
rocky gale
Probably not
arctic talon
fires of cyraxus was the last chance of that happening
and fires of cyraxus died with alan bligh
green loom
Is the Van Saar team plastic
arctic talon
Thallax are part of the ordo reductor
arctic talon
Is the Van Saar team plastic
Yes
green loom
Based
rocky gale
They said when they released the Solar Auxillia, they don't want the two games crossing over like that
green loom
I kinda really like them
arctic talon
They said when they released the Solar Auxillia, they don't want the two games c...
mfw daemons
green loom
Hey Elite look on the bright side, if the tech thralls are priced like Auxilia you can actually afford an admech army now
arctic talon
LOL
green loom
rose thorn
Also I hope. The fucked genestealers 40k rules
green loom
I was meaning in general
rose thorn
Fair
arctic talon
they're purestrain sized
green loom
Just run them as stealers yeah
arctic talon
imo they're great to spice up an army
rocky gale
Maybe Sisters rules will finally be fun once the Codex comes out
rose thorn
I wanna make a genestealer themed nids army
arctic talon
I'm getting a thanatar and castellax
rocky gale
rocky gale
Maybe our anti vehicle units will actually be good vs vehicles
rose thorn
Surprised how much I like the incest nids /hj
green loom
Flapjack gross sound effect
rocky gale
Maybe our melee units will actually be good at melee
rose thorn
Flapjack gross sound effect
It’s cool af!
arctic talon
Maybe our melee units will actually be good at melee <:copium:934595208610459658...
sentenced to S5 repentia
green loom
Flapjack gross sound effect
arctic talon
jokes aside SoB hopefully getting their profiles buffed
rocky gale
Seraphim in the Battleforce and Arco's in the Patrol make me have a little bit of hope
rocky gale
Yea Acro's are basically our only decent melee unit
Like there's literally zero point in using Death Cult Assassins
arctic talon
cool minis tbh but like
ehhh
Death cult assassins feel very grandfathered in to me ngl
They feel the least associated with the ecclisarchy
rocky gale
Like if the choice is not spend points or take Death Cult Assassins, you might be better off just not spending the points tbh
arctic talon
can't they die to go generate faith dice lol
arctic talon
PLEASE FIX THEM GW
rocky gale
Like the Death Cult Assassins have a 5+ Invul, are toughness 3 and have 1 wound, a move of 7 and nothing else
No infiltration, no stealth, no rapid ingress
rocky gale
Nope
rocky gale
Like if they could actually get into melee they could fuck up a squad of Guardsmen, but they will never get into melee
arctic talon
Also
lmao
better melee weapon then Wych's
def blenders for chaff if you can deliver them though
issue is delivering them lol
rocky gale
Like 6 Death Cult assassins maybe could do something, but then you're spending 105 points on them
and you could get 10 Sacresants for 120
Hell you could get 6 Crusaders for 75 and they're more likely to survive the first round
rocky gale
Sororitas Subreddit is malding over both the Battleforce and the Patrol
arctic talon
They aren’t great
rocky gale
They're alright
arctic talon
New patrol is worse value
Battle force is fine
You get a free tank + a bit extra saving
rocky gale
New Patrol might be worse value but it's full squads and not monopose
We were never going to get as good a value as the old box
But the thing with the old box is despite how great in value it was lots of people hated it
arctic talon
True
rocky gale
Like I bought the box because it's a no brainer because of the value saving, still hated it
I don't get the Exorcist in the Battleforce tbh
I guess from a visual perspective is an Organ to accompany the Heavenly Host of Angels
But it's still kinda odd
arctic talon
I don't get the Exorcist in the Battleforce tbh
tbh it feels like GW needed to shove something in lol
rocky gale
Yea
arctic talon
its like the random ass chicken in the old admech battleforce
like
why is it here
rocky gale
Thing is though, there was no Battleforce Box or Combat Patrol box they could have made that would have satisfied the Subreddit
rocky gale
Because the issue is there just aren't that many units
rocky gale
and all the older collectors already have atleast 3 of every unit
Now if they'd release Biker Repentia and put them in the Battleforce alongside the Seraphim and Jump Canoness, then you'd have people creaming
arctic talon
Biker repentia go crazy lol
azure knoll
is the word "kasrkin" short for anything?
arctic talon
is the word "kasrkin" short for anything?
No, just a reference to Kasr’s
azure knoll
yeah thats what i was asking
luetin provided
like, my thinking was that they were the kin of 'kasrs' but i still had 0 clue of what kasr were
arctic talon
like, my thinking was that they were the kin of 'kasrs' but i still had 0 clue o...
Kasr’s are fortress’s in the middle of cadian cities that are fortified to hell and back, it’s also where kasrkin are trained
green loom
I thought Kasrs were Cadian cities
green loom
I see
arctic talon
Now granted cadian cities are already built like a urban planners worst nightmare for “defensive positions”
But the kasrs are like actual fucking hell holes to take
green loom
I figure Kasrs are the only part they actively care about then
The rest of the city is just a crumple zone lol
dusk patrol
Fortress worlds are designed where the whole section matters.
The center is obviously the most key but they force you to take the entire perimeter to get to the middle.
bold wren
You mean designed as a maze.
And to purposely confuse enemies and give them a huge advantage against enemies.
People who say sisters of battle armor is unrealistic are stupid. Romans had Ab Armor, and in the 1600's armor had cod pieces.
winged jacinth
its more about firing angles from fortifications than maze-ness
bold wren
It's both.
It's designed like a killing field on a castle.
They're meant to be confusing for enemies whilst also putting them at a huge disadvantage.
plush mason
lots of places to get some lovely cross-fire going
rose thorn
I still can’t believe my favorite faction got 2 releases!
dusk patrol
You mean designed as a maze.
They can be both yes
It’s designed to be very frustrating to take
The Fall of Cadia book goes into it
bold wren
For enemies it is a maze as how stairs were designed to make it hard to get up the stairs, but castles and fortifications were meant to be confusing to enemies.
dusk patrol
And others
bold wren
I was thinking of how castle stairs are designed to be annoying on purpose.
Good thing Cadians are good at urban combat and everyone is a soldier.
While Cadia fell it made the Imperium more organized as a military. And their culture never died but if anything became more prevalent. While it was destroyed it only made their culture stronger and their influence grew as martyrs.
crisp heath
i wanna make a zealot class and name it after like some zealot from wk40k lore yall know any names?
bold wren
Are blanks like anti-magic?
I mean it's the best way I can think of it.
Like how the warp is it's the closest thing.
green loom
Basically
green loom
i wanna make a zealot class and name it after like some zealot from wk40k lore y...
Macharius(technically a saint but y'kno)
arctic talon
Are blanks like anti-magic?
Anti magic yeah. Their souls are like inverted souls
crisp heath
Macharius(technically a saint but y'kno)
alr, thanks man
arctic talon
Macharius must be a popular name for babies lol
bold wren
I mean assassins are pariahs but cannot be sensed by anyone expect Necrons.
bold wren
It doesn't matter with Necrons as they can sense you coming.
Warp entity or not they know.
There is one Necron who saw them coming awhile away.
arctic talon
Anyone can find culuxus assassins is more my point
It’s just hard
Or you’ll notice because you’re in horrific agony
bold wren
I mean some are stealthy.
bold wren
I keep hearing assassins are better then space marines.
arctic talon
Others have to use more conventional methods to hide
arctic talon
Assassins are better individually due to their augments and training
There’s a lot less of them though
bold wren
Then there is the sisters of silence that would probably scare the best of the best space marines.
bold wren
Don't need it.
arctic talon
They’re pretty much using some of the best gear a normal human can get though
And marines can def overpower them
bold wren
Sisters of Battle can deal with most things expect a charged plasma. But not surprising.
There is literal toads on catachan that can explode even custodes armor.
green loom
Then there is the sisters of silence that would probably scare the best of the b...
They'd prolly be scary to marine psykers
Since that's kinda their deal and job
bold wren
So it's just highly corrosive
dusk patrol
And they've never encountered Custodes as far as I'm aware.
So not sure where you're getting that.
bold wren
Custodes haven't left Terra in 10k years.
bold wren
At least the majority of them.
dusk patrol
They jsut officially started doing it after Guilliman left and more openly.
bold wren
During the Crusades after Cadia.
I am assuming.
Surprised they didn't go to Cadia during that whole thing. Abbadon would probably be quaking in his boots.
dusk patrol
There's a book on it and probably not.
bold wren
Then again he got his ass kicked by humans 12 times.
dusk patrol
He didnt
The other 12 crusades had different objectives.
Some arguably he lost but
bold wren
13 times it took to destroy Cadia. But he didn't do it alone.
bold wren
It was cultists and rebels.
bold wren
It was when he got his ass kicked that he had to 9/11 cadia.
He was losing until he did that.
green loom
Yeah he did it to get some use out of the fortress lol
arctic talon
But it was looking like a chaos victory till then
bold wren
Oh he got his kicked for a minute there.
arctic talon
The fortress was dead already
bold wren
But it didn't really matter.
arctic talon
Yeah abbadon was doing pretty well till the pylons turned on
And the eye of terror closing is
Kind of something you can’t ignore
bold wren
Battle Fleet Gothic getting involved
arctic talon
So his decision to slam the BSF into the planet is sound imo
green loom
Like per Fall by the time the Pylons turn on the Loyalists on world are mainly reduced to holdouts and whoever was in the caverns with Creed and Cawl
bold wren
Sure made it a little tricky and were a nuisance but it didn't stop him.
Not just the pylons.
green loom
So his decision to slam the BSF into the planet is sound imo
It was also disabled and he didn't feel like bothering with it since it actively resisted/sabotaged him
bold wren
Yes but it was a ship made to kill the c'tan.
So of course it would crush a world.
Makes the death star look like a joke.
At least originally but purposes change.
green loom
A lot of plague marines present
I imagine that was fun for whoever was near them
"That was a good fight Plagueis, let us report to Abaddon"
Legs break, puss immediately explodes onto the nearest chaos marine
arctic talon
Yeah ngl plague marines totally ate shit
When the pylons turned on
Nurgle affiliated marines in genera
bold wren
Trayzn getting involved at least allowed Cawl to live another day.
arctic talon
Trazyn literally saved Cadia
Funnily enough
If he didn’t intervene it would have been cracked
green loom
Nurgle marines are hit worst by any kind of blank garbage
bold wren
It cracked but he did save lives getting involved.
green loom
Is it in dark imperium where they get hit with blank torpedoes and they literally fall apart?
arctic talon
Trazyn supercharging the shields kept it from dying instantly
bold wren
Hs got a free trophy from Cadia.
plush mason
Trazyn literally saved Cadia
and he only went there because he was bored lol
arctic talon
So that the space wolves could board the BSF
arctic talon
and he only went there because he was bored lol
Collection opportunity lol
Also the stupid fucking bell
bold wren
I mean it was Necron pylons and he was like.
green loom
He did lose a few of his collectibles tbf
arctic talon
He has spares
bold wren
These are my pylons why do you have them he was like.
arctic talon
Tbf he has spares of spares
arctic talon
The ones he brought weren’t on display
green loom
I found it immensely funny that the marine lasted longer in a 1v1 with him than the custode
green loom
No it was some high ranking ultramarine from the heresy
bold wren
Is an example
But yes he sent in heresy ultramarines.
Cato Sicarius and Malum Caedo.
Are some of the strongest modern space marines. Other then Titus. At least for the Ultramarines.
I forget the other guys name.
Marneus Calgar?
bold wren
Cato is a veteran at best.
But he is considered to be the Doom Guy of the Ultramarines. As he is connected to Titus.
Makes a lot of sense with his experience fighting Tyranids.
But otherwise that is where his lore goes out of the window.
green loom
I'm confused, do you mean Cato or Caedo