#40k-lore-chat

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crystal forum
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ah yes a "massage" gun

arctic talon
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seems to work for him

arctic talon
celest dome
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Well I could have gone with Vamp lady as a Flc LL, but I'd would have prefered Grimm Burlokson as LL
And Malakai as LH

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I don't think it've ever seen on the internet someone else use a sediment shaker for them

crystal forum
queen laurel
crystal forum
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people are like save your money just shake yourself

snow fern
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A sediment shaker? Is that like a sieve or?

crystal forum
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but my wrist hurts often man i need to ask my doctor

celest dome
snow fern
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I wouldn’t know, but google is giving me multiple names for this thing so I’m just gonna go with yours

celest dome
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Got a second hand one from work, so was a cheap thing that worked quite well

crystal forum
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new cacti lore unlocked

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works with paint

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mmmmh

celest dome
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Nah I don't work with paint, i just used one for GW painting, then I sold it

snow fern
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So Darktide stuff as Skulls, wonder what itll be

celest dome
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I work for an Uni
So I have frequent contacts with the laboratory peoples

outer wave
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What sort of labs?

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All the sciences or just a specific kind?

celest dome
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Medical/Pharmaceutical

outer wave
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Oh okay thought you may have had research labs and I would've gotten immediately jealous

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Immediately and irrationally jealous

celest dome
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They do research

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But I don't

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I'm a programmer, HVAC

outer wave
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RGHHHHHHHHHHH

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WHY AM I NOT IN RESEARCH

crystal forum
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job opportunities are plentiful but

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annoying af

outer wave
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Wait are you in research?

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I know the cons associated with the field; I just feel like having a micro major then having NO place to really go to use said knowledge suck ass

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I guess medical is the best next thing but man

crystal forum
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R&D really

outer wave
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R&D?

crystal forum
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job feels similar

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but it has production aspects instead of pure research

outer wave
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Ahhhh

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Do you make more doing that in comparison to pure research?

crystal forum
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it doesn't really apply because i was a student when i did the research job

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but from what i've learned from people who work in it it's just a lot of stuffy old people

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your manager could just be a recluse crazy old guy who got the job just because he's got a phd

outer wave
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Fair enough

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Man it sucks cuz research doesnt even pay all that well, you gotta have ALOT of passion for the subject matter, and apparently other folks in the field can be bitchy

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I guess any place can be a place for catty coworkers and competitiors

crystal forum
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that's academia in a nutshell yeah

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private sector just pays more on top

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you can find lots of jobs in niche markets like i did if you have a specialty

outer wave
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I do not sadly but Im going to medical tech school next year

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Something I HATE but they dont consider microbiology stuff from uni to be useable in the medical field

crystal forum
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i don't know anything about the medical field so i wouldn't know

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my case is the opposite lol i have a tech degree but i want to go to uni to get higher salary

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i'm getting the job experience to not be in your situation when i'm done

outer wave
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I swear if I have to return to school for marginally better wages

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I mean I am next year but after

crystal forum
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i'm dreading it too

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work is so much better than school

outer wave
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It just sucks that people cant get a real taste of what work is like unless you either take a coop (which can be difficult to get) or you dedicate all your time into education to get the work (which you still dont know until you're dropped in)

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Idk maybe Im just bitter

crystal forum
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trust me most STEM people know the pain

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it's a very shitty system

outer wave
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And medical here is, from what Ive been seeing, isnt great either

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Maybe I should become a fisher

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Live a simple life

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Make a couple dollars a day, live in a cottage in the woods

crystal forum
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if i wasn't working my way up to starting my own company i'd just be an electrician and retire at 40

outer wave
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Become a streamer

wraith quartz
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Hey, side note. Given how big a hive city is, they have hab sectors for like a power grid and such...

celest dome
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Yes

wraith quartz
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Ok

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How do they power these grids? Do they have a glorified (sanctified) hamster spinning a wheel?

storm jungle
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plasma reactors

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and other semi-functioning fusion-cores etc

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you repair one of these in Darktide

celest dome
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Often they use Geothermal
Or heat reactors

viral halo
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and some lostech nuclear reactors!

wraith quartz
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Oh

crystal forum
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power systems are wildly inconsistent

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so the imperium managed to make the most efficient source of power available to the average guardsman in the form of a lasgun magazine

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it can get recharged by solar or even through heat

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but somehow on a large scale things work with either prometheum (fossil fuel) or plasma (basically nuclear fusion which is a fossil fuel)

tough haven
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Maybe whatever fucking magic lasguns operate on only works in small scale

crystal forum
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it's a soft sci fi plothole

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you can't make these wacky gizmos work without waving away a lot of laws of physics

wraith quartz
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Hmm

crystal forum
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like think about it. why do leman russes work on prometheum but can contain plasma ammo?

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and lascannon ammo packs are cheap af

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because loud engines sound cool

tough haven
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Unrelated but how hard is it to dm wrath and glory without any experience in the system?

storm jungle
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probably not the best place to ask

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since nobody here plays it i dont think

tough haven
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Oh lol mb

storm jungle
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the Imperium is just stupid

queen laurel
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Yeah like i'm pretty sure the most knowledgeable ones here would be the ones of the table top 40k or dnd

storm jungle
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stuff doesnt exactly "work"

outer wave
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Its also Warhammer, which is more rule of cool and silly than hard science

queen laurel
crystal forum
arctic talon
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the disproven "science" of aerodynamics

storm jungle
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🫵

crystal forum
storm jungle
arctic talon
queen laurel
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It's just perfect for my rotting brain that has nothing better to do in life than rot

rocky gale
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Haven't played any of the Cubicle 7 ones

crystal forum
# arctic talon

the imperium proving that WW2 aircraft design was when we peaked

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i do really like the idea that the imperium has such advanced propulsion technology that they can sacrifice a ton of weight on armour and still have good planes

arctic talon
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I think it’s fun world building

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And it shows off well in Aeronautica on the tabletop as well

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Imperium planes are built like brick shithouses and hard to maneuver

crystal forum
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it's great

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i dont even think modern fighter planes would work in 40k

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the imperium is fighting stuff like chaos flying demons that dont have IR signatures to lock on

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and legit i think ork planes are so tough that a sidewinder missile wouldn't dent a big one

arctic talon
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Ork planes are ironically pretty lightly armored

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The horror is how many guns + how fast and maneuverable they are

crystal forum
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oh damn

burnt maple
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Ork planes are like hjapanese ww2 planes.

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No armor, all speed.

crystal forum
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do they also win with numbers

arctic talon
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Only eldar and imperium planes can match them for top acceleration lmao

arctic talon
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What do you think

crystal forum
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i dont know how many ork boyz focus on planes

arctic talon
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But yeah ork planes are suprisingly lightly armored

burnt maple
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Enough. It is fast, it haz dakka.

arctic talon
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They’re just covered in guns, engines, Ect

burnt maple
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Sum speed freeks will love dem planes.

arctic talon
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Ork and eldar planes in aeronautica ironically share some similarities

crystal forum
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i like ork bombers

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mega death fortresses

arctic talon
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Shame GW never got to finish all the Aeronautica factions

rocky gale
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Imperium: Launching heat seeking missiles at the Ork fighters

Orks: Entirely unphased because they painted the inside of the plane blue so they could relax in the cold.

arctic talon
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They got close

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I do also like how crons are comically strong but you’re so absurdly out numbered it evens out

spring cairn
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tau vs imperium when it comes to air superiority engagements is funny

arctic talon
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Mmmm drones

spring cairn
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they talk about it in the taros thingy

storm jungle
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To be fair like

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Tau use actual sci-fi aero-tech

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the Imperium is just hunk of metal WW2 stuff lol

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"realistically" speaking it would be pretty one-sided

dusk patrol
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They do fine in the very very few aeronautica stuff that comes up

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Especially since all 40k aeronautica stuff is WWII dogfights for the same reason Star Wars space battles are

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Dogfights are boring these days and in the future that’s not gonna get any better I imagine

crystal forum
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dogfights don't exist

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it's not even something planes do at all anymore

burnt maple
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Yup.

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Planes are now a ground support vehicles. Nothing more.

crystal forum
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look at how smaller and smaller "main" armaments become over the years. it's pretty funny how the cannon on the F-35 is almost just a vestigial afterthought

storm jungle
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we are talking about flying fridges going against alien VTOLs

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lmao

winter vessel
crystal forum
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i think for what the imperium has to fight their planes make sorta sense

storm jungle
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No like they do

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its more that Tau, Necron and Eldar planes are superior

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both technologically and through other means

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Tau I can kinda get but Eldar/Necron planes would be more or less impossible to survive in a smaller skirmish

crystal forum
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necron and eldar at least are nerfed by the fact that they can't just out attrition enemy planes

storm jungle
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yep

dusk patrol
burnt maple
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Soyjak mode: ONQ

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAND! THE INTRICATE SKILL OF THE IMPERIAL PILOTS IS HONED OVER MILLENIAS OF CONFLICT! THEIR OLD MACHINES NEED NO HERETICAL FANCY TECH TO FIGHT BACK MACHINES OF TAU!

dusk patrol
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There’s also just a fair amount of different flyers

storm jungle
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again, flying fridges

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they are based on WW2 craft with a brutalist aesthetic

crystal forum
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i really like imperium bombers

storm jungle
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compared to an VTOL which is mentally controlled

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its like a WW2 plane going against a Harrier

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lol

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or Iraqi MiGs fighting modern U.S jets

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💀

arctic talon
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the brick wins

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smh

storm jungle
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🧱

burnt maple
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Simple as.

arctic talon
winter vessel
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Imagine if there was a VTOL like STC schematic that existed

crystal forum
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i shit you not modern jets would have a lot of difficulty trying to shoot down a prop plane

storm jungle
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Ehhhhhh

dusk patrol
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Uh

viral halo
dusk patrol
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Not really

crystal forum
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there's this story where i dont remember if it was an F-22 that tried shooting down a cessna

dusk patrol
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Jet fighters spend countless hours training dumb shit

burnt maple
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Not really. One rocket launched 6km ahead and poof.

storm jungle
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^

crystal forum
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the problem is locking on for one

winter vessel
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Battlefield moment

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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You can lock onto almost anything

crystal forum
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there's this video i need to find

burnt maple
arctic talon
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F-35 vs balloon

dusk patrol
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Or they could just fly by it at super sonic tbh

storm jungle
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One flyby would probably knock one out of the sky without the pilot even trying to take down-

crystal forum
storm jungle
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GOD DAMN IT

arctic talon
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first air to air kill of an F-35

arctic talon
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dang

crystal forum
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yes

arctic talon
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oh it was an F-22

crystal forum
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it had to shoot above its service ceiling i think

dusk patrol
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Yeah there’s a documentary they made about it called Top Gun Maverick

viral halo
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drukhari have the coolest planes in 40k btw

dusk patrol
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They definitely have the edgiest

viral halo
paper haven
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The javelin uses a picture to hone in on its target.

crystal forum
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and guess what

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it took multiple tries to hit the balloon

arctic talon
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same applies to all 40k flyers

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tbh

dusk patrol
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Maybe with early tech

viral halo
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F35 is a money laundering operation and isn't a real fighter jet

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I need a warhammer pfp for in here

crystal forum
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it's a multi role fighter

dusk patrol
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F-35 also isn’t a fighter jet so much as a platform to direct missiles

viral halo
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It's a government dirty money washing machine

crystal forum
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F-22 is still america's main fighter jet

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still very good plane 10/10

radiant lance
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F-35 is pretty much an electronic warfare package disguised as a fighter jet

dusk patrol
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F-35 is an amazing plane for modern warfare

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It’s just very expensive

burnt maple
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Now, the chat is interesting.

dusk patrol
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Probably too expensive

radiant lance
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Yeah the f-35 is a pretty amazing plane

dusk patrol
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After how much they’ve spent it better be

radiant lance
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The f-35 makes tons of sense considering how missile/radar heavy modern combat is

crystal forum
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america pretty much has to spend that much money on planes. it's all about power projection and shit

dusk patrol
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Unfortunately dogfighting aircraft is probably a thing of the past

arctic talon
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The military budget might as well be bottomless lol

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for the US

radiant lance
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Anyone who says the A-10 is a good plane doesn't understand how modern warfare works

dusk patrol
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It’ll probably become at best pilots in electronic sensor platforms directing drones

crystal forum
radiant lance
dusk patrol
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Yeah

arctic talon
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the future is in drones

crystal forum
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american airforce is genuinely considering getting a prop plane to replace the A-10

radiant lance
dusk patrol
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At the end of the day humans create a huge problem

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Cause we’re so fucking fragile

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Drones meanwhile can go supersonic and break absurdly fast and flip around all they want

crystal forum
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i like how russians are creating WW2 tanks again just to counter drones

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military analysts must be losing their shit

radiant lance
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The real scary thing are quad copters with explosives inho

scenic bolt
radiant lance
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They're just so inexpensive that trying to fight them is a pain in the ass economically

dusk patrol
viral halo
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bring back battleships

dusk patrol
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We’re jsut gonna develop really expensive countermeasures

scenic bolt
radiant lance
crystal forum
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the thing with drones is the operator can do his job without risking themselves at all

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that's a major advantage

dusk patrol
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I’m sure there’s some wild anti drone shit they’ve cooked up

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Also just good old fashioned jamming

radiant lance
crystal forum
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lasers can still be overwhelmed

radiant lance
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Or you know. Dust

crystal forum
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they're sending like 15 drones at a time

dusk patrol
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Look up how fast these fire

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They can take down jets a long long way away

crystal forum
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are you talking about the navy ones

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those are hooked up to nuclear power plants

dusk patrol
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We have those on platforms too

viral halo
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US is switching to that new AR platform that looks interesting

dusk patrol
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Among other things

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And that’s all stuff we know about

radiant lance
crystal forum
dusk patrol
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Russia can’t afford that shit

crystal forum
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US army caring about hearing of its servicemen

dusk patrol
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Most countries can’t

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You just use AI to kill drones

radiant lance
crystal forum
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it's very hard to lock onto a drone

dusk patrol
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You’re really underestimating tech here

crystal forum
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can you fit the tech on the tank is the question

radiant lance
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Also, we're putting so much work into trying to kill drones. Keep in mind, you now have to sit around anti drone defense which is going to slow you down, and it can't go everywhere

dusk patrol
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Yes

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It’s just an evolution of warfare

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And we have the much bigger badder drones

scenic bolt
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Modern strikes arent gonna not be exclusive drones and if the countermeasures can’t move on a dime it’s just a target

crystal forum
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which cost more

dusk patrol
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Yes and they do way more

radiant lance
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The real slowing caused by quadcopters is that infantry and vehicles now have to be inside safety bubbles because quadcopters are ridiculously cheap, maneuverable, and are generally a pain in the ass to shoot

dusk patrol
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The biggest things these drones do isn’t even the explosives

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It’s recon

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The grenades and shit jsut make for good montages on liveleak

crystal forum
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it's not perfect but it helps

radiant lance
crystal forum
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and it's not hard to do

dusk patrol
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All the war in the Ukraine has proved is the US is even more dominant militarily than we thought

radiant lance
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It's also a view into modern warfare

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And quad copters are a serious threat

crystal forum
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it's a view into whatever war america is going to involve itself in next

dusk patrol
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I guaranteed there’s a million and one plans in mind and things being developed for basic quad copters, the bigger issue is if countries like China have developed actually threatening mass drones. Quad copters aren’t gonna break anything force wise.

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The biggest asset they provide is recon

radiant lance
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Oh those explosive first person quad copters are less than $500

crystal forum
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i dont think anything will ever prepare for a full scale war between two major powers

dusk patrol
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It doesn’t matter really, RPGs are cheap as fuck compared to the counter measure we make to beat them

dusk patrol
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Proxies maybe

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But I doubt China is that dumb

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We’re too intertwined

scenic bolt
dusk patrol
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Full scale war is just nukes

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It’s that or nothing

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China can’t strike us without them

paper haven
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If you want to know what war between near peer armies will look like, Ukraine is your best bet.

dusk patrol
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They don’t have the naval power or Air Force.

scenic bolt
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Don’t need nukes there’s responses under it

dusk patrol
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And that’s the only thing that happens when you fire intercontinental missiles at eachother

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You don’t get to go below that when you do that

scenic bolt
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Don’t need a missile to shut off the power

dusk patrol
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They’re not gonna invade

scenic bolt
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Cyberwar isn’t kinetic

viral halo
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The logistics of invading the United States would be so gargantuan it's not really realistic

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Land war in China would also be rather difficult

radiant lance
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A pond makes everything a lot more difficult

viral halo
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And it'll end up in China regardless funnyrobhaha

paper haven
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China would have trouble actually getting troops to Taiwan in any real numbers, let alone over to the US

dusk patrol
# scenic bolt Cyberwar isn’t kinetic

So you’re assuming they can just destroy our entire energy infrastructure with cyber attacks? You realize a lot of this stuff isn’t even hooked up to any outside sources right?

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Do you think the US isn’t aware its energy infrastructure is a weak point?

crystal forum
radiant lance
dusk patrol
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There’s definitely damage that they can do but like

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“Cyber warfare” causing the entire US to collapse

celest dome
green loom
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Who invoked the Black Ops 2 plot

crystal forum
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worked in the chechen war because nobody gave a shit enough to help them

dusk patrol
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I work for a large power provider in the US

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This stuff is not connected to some network

celest dome
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Just be careful where you put your fingers, it pinch quite hard

scenic bolt
dusk patrol
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We have meetings on if aliens attack

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The point is we’re anal about every possibility

radiant lance
dusk patrol
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We have plans to invade Canada, Mexico and England

radiant lance
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It's like Batman having a plan to kill the justice League just in case

dusk patrol
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It’s not a non issue but the idea that it’s gonna be some silver bullet is goofy

scenic bolt
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Last I remember from DOE something like 90-95% of the grid was vulnerable to cyber attack

dusk patrol
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Every single one of those meetings sound like a doomsday event is incoming

scenic bolt
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Harder still since all the district transfer stations were

dusk patrol
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Seriously listen to any of them

crystal forum
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that would require politicians to care

dusk patrol
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“Vulnerable” can mean there’s technically a way you could fuck it up if you got a flash drive in the system or whatever

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And they never reveal how prepared we are

radiant lance
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Yeah flashdrive drops are probably the easiest way to break a system

arctic talon
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the classic

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the human element is the weakest link

dusk patrol
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It’s literally someone whose job is to fear monger

radiant lance
dusk patrol
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I’m not saying it’s not a weak point

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But the idea that “oh China wins cause it might be a vulnerability”

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Ignoring too how fast we can fix this stuff too

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Or auxiliary systems and separations

crystal forum
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nuclear war will do some damage to infrastructure. im not sure though

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never tried it myself

arctic talon
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tbh China is in a pretty bad situation internally rn

green loom
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It's going to be a bribe war

arctic talon
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I think people forget that

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the government is like

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not popular

crystal forum
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lots of countries are

dusk patrol
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And this is jsut stuff I know as a very low level electrician working for a Midwest major power provider

green loom
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Who bribes who with how much and how fast smilecat

viral halo
scenic bolt
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But the idea that other topics are overblown doesn’t mean we aren’t vulnerable in this regard there is a reason we increased NSA funding by 4x post-stuxnet

crystal forum
green loom
viral halo
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I need to liberate canadians from their shackles

scenic bolt
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And why other countries like Iran or China or NK also didn’t expand their cyberwar divisions by factors

crystal forum
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isn't north korea's economy like only working because of cyber criminals

scenic bolt
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Basically

viral halo
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No food, rampant meth abuse, brownouts constantly

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That's mississippi but North Korea has the same issues

scenic bolt
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It’s like a pretty large percentage of their armed forces

dusk patrol
green loom
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Oh hey this is pretty cool

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Hey Siggy you see my new art crap

viral halo
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I love the time lapses

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they give me dopamine

green loom
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I'm kinda debating a Darktide webcomic rn

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"Madsen's Memoirs"

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Following the journal of a Sixer

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As in a moebian 6th guardsman

scenic bolt
green loom
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LOTR is pretty crazy popular so I imagine there's a lot of people who just collect them

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Just another way to enjoy the setting

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Also it uses a lot of movie/movie-adjacent designs which generally look pretty cool

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I think the Dol Amroth dudes are my favourite s

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Hey I should draw one of those.....

rocky gale
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I went to school with a guy who's dad was a Reverend and he had a massive collection of LOTR stuff, like an entire room of their house was just one giant Helms Deep diorama.

crystal forum
dusk patrol
crystal forum
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this scares me

radiant lance
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The 1% coming from the actual 1%

dusk patrol
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Tbh if you’re decently into the hobby

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100 isn’t that many depending

rocky gale
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The 1% will mostly be LGS owners

dusk patrol
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Especially for bigger armies

crystal forum
dusk patrol
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Also it’s an internet poll

rocky gale
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Every LGS store owner I know uses the Wholesale discount to build their own armies

crystal forum
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i have tasted what passes as maple syrup in the south though

crisp heath
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Games Workshop are cowards for basing Sauron off the movie instead of just making him a malevolent twink

crystal forum
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what the fuck is wrong with those people

rocky gale
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US has odd food standards

crisp heath
radiant lance
crystal forum
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i brought a can of real maple syrup to a southerner friend once

radiant lance
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However, BBQ --- they're doing incredibly correctly

crystal forum
scenic bolt
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What do you mean maple syrup isn’t flavored high fructose corn syrup?????

radiant lance
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Nah. Brisket is just salt, pepper, and some apple cider vinegar to keep it moist

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Anything else is heresy

crystal forum
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bbq sauce tho

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maple syrup goes well in that imo

radiant lance
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Maple BBQ sauce is allowed

rocky gale
# rocky gale US has odd food standards

Like sure you can eat beef with steroids and antibiotics in it, but drinking 500 bottles of this drink a day for a month causes cancer so we're banning it.

radiant lance
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I have a bunch of different BBQ sauces I like to do

crisp heath
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The real issue is that it's very easy to make molasses at home so they strangled molasses out of the market to push corn syrup which was in excess in the market at the time

radiant lance
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And the Asian inspired one is my favourite that I make

crystal forum
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america is 90% corn

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they put it in their gas

radiant lance
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You're damn right

scenic bolt
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Corn and dairy

radiant lance
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Corn is where we dérivé our freedom from

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Freedom corn

scenic bolt
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We scuttled the EU-NA nafta equivalent over cheese disputes

crisp heath
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Do not start America on cheese

sacred ginkgo
crisp heath
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Wendigoon literally just blew the cheese conspiracy wide open

green loom
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What's Brisket

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I thought it was a guilty gear character

crystal forum
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it's food

dusk patrol
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American cheese is fucking awesome anyways

crisp heath
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It's a guilty gear character

crystal forum
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i like most cheese

radiant lance
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Homemade American cheese is better imo

dusk patrol
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Europeans always just cherry pick the most mass produced basic version of something

snow fern
#

Brisket is typically a smoked meat beef normally

green loom
#

Even mass produced garbage is better than my local stuff tbf

crystal forum
#

i dislike steak but i love every other form of meat

green loom
#

My dad's moonshine is made of like 30% bugs

#

And that's being generous

snow fern
#

Applewood pork butt

radiant lance
#

American cheese is just an agglomeration of various other cheeses, melted down with sodium citrate, and then let to settle as slices
Kraft just fucks it up with the shittiest cheese known to man

dusk patrol
#

“Oh Hans I do not into the American chocolate. What’s zat? No I heff not tried anything besides de Hershey bar, why do yoo ask?”

green loom
dusk patrol
#

Still malding about them fumbling the hamburger and pizza origins when we vastly improve it

radiant lance
crystal forum
#

american beer sucks ass and i will die on this hill

dusk patrol
#

False

radiant lance
#

Large batch sucks. Small craft brewers are great

dusk patrol
#

Jsut don’t buy the shit basic brands

green loom
#

True in that all beer sucks ass

crystal forum
#

your microbreweries suck too

snow fern
#

Cheap beer is gross

crystal forum
#

they all make IPA's

radiant lance
#

Yeah, I go out and purposely have to find microbrewery porters and stouts

dusk patrol
#

I’ve been to Europe I’ve tried lots of different countries “best” beers

#

Theyre not that great

snow fern
#

I’m more of a mixed drink kinda guy, especially mules

crystal forum
#

i dont know how people enjoy IPA's

#

drinking culture unironically ruins beverages

#

also why 21 years old that's so fucked up

dusk patrol
#

I’ve never been a huge fan of anything straight from the bottle alcohol related

#

Like people talk about buffet Vodka types man, idk why you care

#

You’re drinking it to get drunk

scenic bolt
dusk patrol
#

Not for which burn tastes better

loud badge
#

I wanted one bottle of beer

green loom
#

Alcohol is too vile so I only ever drink it to get drunk with friends

#

Which I don't have anymore

#

Thus I don't drink

scenic bolt
#

Yea we trust you with guns and military ordinance but not a Bud Lite

rocky gale
#

Just drink Guinness

#

Can't go wrong

dusk patrol
#

Yeah the age of alcohol consumption should be higher

crystal forum
snow fern
scenic bolt
crystal forum
#

which they love to do

dusk patrol
#

Yeah I’m sure that’s the reason

crystal forum
#

the actual reason is even dumber

dusk patrol
#

And not how bad alcohol actually is

snow fern
#

Doesn’t help public hangout spots for teens are disappearing

crystal forum
dusk patrol
#

Uh yeah it was its jsut people wanna drink

loud badge
dusk patrol
#

It’s hilarious how much bad things alcohol causes

snow fern
#

The founding fathers weren’t all that religious actually, but there are definitely a good chunk of zealots in this country

dusk patrol
#

It’s just an acceptable drug

crystal forum
#

it's people's choice to ruin their bodies

#

not yours

green loom
dusk patrol
#

The government decides what people are allowed to do for safety all the time

loud badge
dusk patrol
#

Alcohol has a very high rate of affecting people besides the user

crystal forum
dusk patrol
#

It’s just it’s not worth outlawing for obvious reasons

snow fern
#

The decriminalization of drugs would actually go a long way helping people recover, and reduce crime overall, a lot of studies have shown as such

scenic bolt
#

Criminalization just breeds a black market at best organized crime at worst

crystal forum
#

it's literally human nature to want to escape reality. alcohol has been found as early as the first sedentary people

dusk patrol
#

I don’t think the idea behind prohibition was bad it’s just it can’t work

snow fern
#

Animals use alcohol like

dusk patrol
#

It’s too easy to make and it jsut makes more problems

crisp heath
#

I am here to make vaguely inappropriate comments about plastic army men I do not have opinions on the consumption of mind altering substances

snow fern
#

You’re not a paint sniffer?

crystal forum
#

smh

scenic bolt
crystal forum
#

i just looked up if 1 beer a day was bad for you and internet tells me it's good for me

#

what the hell man

outer wave
# arctic talon **not popular**

Not to bring this up again intentionally, but Im not sure if theyre that unpopular within Mainland China, especially with censorship and how the previous generations have been educated about their history.

arctic talon
outer wave
#

Oh right the bank incident

arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

That was not good lol

outer wave
#

Haha nooope

crystal forum
#

they'll probably recover

outer wave
#

I do really wonder how any of their companies are still running like Evergrande

#

They got like 100 billion dollar debts and shit

crystal forum
#

they just have to shift their whole economy which is not a simple task

#

i want to find the one country that's doing well right now so i can live there

outer wave
#

They've been trying to become more independent from western countries

scenic bolt
#

They’re probably hoping the voracious growth can offset a deficit in the long term

crystal forum
#

startup company mindset

scenic bolt
#

That’s one of the big reasons for their explosive growth in the 00s-present was high levels of deficit spending on infrastructure

crystal forum
#

china's infrastructure is batshit insane too

#

i wish i had that problem where there's too many roads

scenic bolt
#

One positive thing about dumping huge government dosh on infrastructure is if the economy goes up you still got roads

crystal forum
#

it's a good investment all things considered

scenic bolt
#

It’s partly how the US escaped the Great Depression

crystal forum
#

they should do it again

#

please

scenic bolt
#

Convert debt into infrastructure

rocky gale
#

US needs to do it with high speed rails now

crystal forum
#

too much lobbying is the issue

#

california almost had one i think

scenic bolt
#

It’s slowly being built

crystal forum
#

oh i thought it was cancelled

rocky gale
#

Ireland needs to do the same, we need new train lines

scenic bolt
crystal forum
#

boomers hate trains for some reason

#

it sounds too old school for the generation that saw them being cut apart

scenic bolt
#

You’d think boomers’d be huge into trains

crystal forum
#

it's like disco. they hate it because it was unpopular 50 years ago

#

these people are deciding the fate of the world

scenic bolt
#

RETVRN, but for trains and high corporate tax rates

rocky gale
#

Our issue is most of our railways were designed by the English to transport goods to Dublin so they could be shipped to England and when that process stopped the railways weren't needed as much, so they shut down a lot of the lines rather than convert them to passenger lines.

crystal forum
#

it's funny because britain had a good rail network but they had to ruin it

#

can't have anything nice

rocky gale
#

Well it's different for us

sacred ginkgo
#

I’d fucking love cheap passenger trains in the US

bold wren
#

Do you think protection seals of other gods exist in 40k? I mean to keep you safe and I don't mean like the seals used.

rocky gale
scenic bolt
sacred ginkgo
#

Oh no!

#

Anyway

scenic bolt
#

Considering the dice you roll getting on a Boeing now’s the time

arctic talon
sacred ginkgo
#

2 hours before liftoff

scenic bolt
#

The DC-10 fucking things up into the far future

bold wren
#

So it's like Lovecraft symbols or offering your soul to them only belongs to them.

crystal forum
#

i like using ireland as an example for issue happening here

arctic talon
crystal forum
#

difference is the irish actually have balls

bold wren
#

But it's funny considering that God actually exists in Lovecraft and is more powerful then the abyss gods.

arctic talon
#

At that point

#

It’s free game lol

#

Regarding human souls going to the emperor it seems like most just you know

#

Get torn apart in the warp

bold wren
#

I mean in Lovecraft the universes are made by dreaming.

#

So we don't know how much influence they added.

#

Just that as long one God is dreaming everything as you know it will exist.

#

Until Azathoth wakes up and everything as you know it ends.

#

The void and abyss probably heavily inspired the warp and not just being space hell.

burnt maple
arctic talon
#

LOL

bold wren
#

What do you think of the kroot?

burnt maple
#

In general? Alien species like any other. Killable.

bold wren
#

I mean actually appearance wise without thinking of how killable they are.

#

I kill aliens doesn't mean I don't find them interesting.

burnt maple
#

Eh, the closest thing we have to predators. Look nice I guess.

bold wren
#

Yautja society really ranges

#

In comparison to the kroot who are mostly barbarous hunters.

arctic talon
#

I mean the kroot build ships

burnt maple
#

You speak to a boomer who acknowledges predator movie. Barely predator 2 and nothing past it exists.

arctic talon
#

that are pretty advanced lol

#

like they make those on their own

bold wren
#

I mean the recent movie Prey was good

arctic talon
#

Fucking sphere

bold wren
#

With the other types of Yautja.

burnt maple
#

That a kroot ship?

arctic talon
#

Yeah

burnt maple
#

Dope.

arctic talon
#

The kroot have actual heavy industry on their planet

#

but its hidden from the Tau

#

and the Tau don't try finding out more because why bother pissing off your allies

burnt maple
#

HOW XD

bold wren
#

This is yautja space craft

arctic talon
#

its underground

bold wren
arctic talon
#

most likely

#

at least thats the assumption of the Water Caste lol

burnt maple
#

I see.

bold wren
#

Feral Predators are interesting

arctic talon
#

but the kroot's guns and ships are all "homegrown" tech

#

but they do "borrow" tau stuff sometimes as well

bold wren
#

I mean they have las bows

#

The most recent predator movie variant of Yautja. Speaking of such already.

burnt maple
#

Who? The kroot or predators?

arctic talon
#

kroot guns can look high tech

bold wren
arctic talon
#

is more so my point

#

they just generally you know

#

don't lol

bold wren
#

The kroot

burnt maple
#

Alright, lets stick to 1 topic pls.

bold wren
#

I mean they're literally the yautja as there is feral and regular bounty hunters who used advanced tech to hunt humans.

crystal forum
arctic talon
#

so

#

void of space

#

and game model

crystal forum
#

i've also been abusing stellaris

#

since the update

#

also

#

i noticed a 40k reference

#

which i took a screenshot yesterday and forgot to post here

#

but you have a chance to talk to an alternate dimension version of yourself that tells you their universe developed warp drive instead of whatever the stellaris universe uses

#

and they're always being attacked by warp monsters

arctic talon
crystal forum
#

fuck

arctic talon
#

Psionic acension has the literal 4 major chaos gods as well lol

crystal forum
#

i knew it was too good to be a 40k reference

arctic talon
#

if you've done it before

#

Tbf

#

the warp drive is a 40k refrence lol

#

you punch through the shroud with it

#

The shroud is literally the warp but less evil

crystal forum
#

i have legit never done the old psionic path

arctic talon
#

current psionic has the 4 gods more likely to show up anyways

#

used to be much more random

crystal forum
#

i have 500 hours and i spent most of those in a handful of games i spend weeks on

#

i play very big maps

#

probably why nobody plays with me

arctic talon
#

yeah ngl I never go larger then medium

#

oh have you tried the new crisis path lol

#

The Synaptic lathe is fucking hilarious

crystal forum
#

shush no spoilers

#

i have 50 more hours before i reach it

arctic talon
#

I enjoy the new updates

#

non hivemind machines are nice to have

crystal forum
#

yeah for once a stellaris update has good reviews

#

and people were bitching because the ad was rumoured to use AI art

rapid ravine
#

sexy sexy skaven

#

the alien invasion is just the tyranids from outside the galaxy

#

theyre even psychic

green loom
#

The new stormcast are certified bangers

arctic talon
viral halo
#

They went overkill on the stormcast in the best way possible

green loom
#

I NEED THE LORD VIGILANT

viral halo
storm jungle
arctic talon
storm jungle
arctic talon
#

I also don't love the open faced helms on some of the Stormcast

#

but there's closed faced ones at least

viral halo
#

AoS has the best models

#

you can't fucking beat it

#

Cannot WAIT to see what they do with Malekitherions delves

#

I like NEED that knight questor lol

river walrus
#

Show Ulgo funny thing please

river walrus
#

Tank you

river walrus
#

Ooh

arctic talon
#

The rat ogres are much more

#

skryre esque

river walrus
#

Heard dey tinker lots with flesh

arctic talon
#

Skryre doesn't do much with flesh

#

more with guns and tech

burnt maple
#

Moulder does fleshcrafting.

river walrus
#

Ooohh

arctic talon
#

only reason I feel they're very skryre is because of the

#

flamethrower attachment they got

burnt maple
#

Holy shit. All these aos minis are fucking amazing.

#

Meanwhile 40k with nerfgun desolators.

arctic talon
#

AoS does not miss(most of the time)

#

what having creative freedom

#

does to a modeling team

storm jungle
#

^

#

They also got the more better modellers apparently

#

which not gonna lie, really shows

dusk patrol
#

They’re catering to different audiences too

storm jungle
#

I mean not really

#

Both the IPs are all about unchecked badass miniatures

#

40k is also sci-fi fantasy so theres not that much of a restriction for the most part

dusk patrol
#

I wouldn’t want some of the stuff we see in AoS in 40k

#

I’m glad we get it for AoS but it’s whole aesthetic is very different

arctic talon
#

Some of it only makes sense in AoS/a fantasy setting

dusk patrol
#

Hell I wouldn’t even want a lot of the stuff we see in AoS in Warhammer Fantasy

arctic talon
#

Giant cow mountain

storm jungle
#

The setting with super-tech lizardmen yes

#

💀

dusk patrol
#

Its much more high fantasy or whatever the term is

#

More fantastical

storm jungle
#

Eh again depends

#

WHF has a lot of high fantasy elements

#

not everything is relegated to be grounded like the Empire

#

well i say "grounded" when they got about as much goofy shit too

#

cue clockwork horse

arctic talon
green loom
#

I kinda want the corebook

arctic talon
#

Get it for the lore alone then

#

It looks to be styled after the 40K core rulebook even more now

#

Which means more lore lol

green loom
storm jungle
dusk patrol
arctic talon
storm jungle
arctic talon
storm jungle
#

Half the high elf aesthetic is marble bullshit 😩

storm jungle
#

Im gonna collapse two ivory towers on you in a minute

viral halo
dusk patrol
#

Mfw high elves don’t even get high

viral halo
#

Just sneezed so hard a paper comically flew off my desk

storm jungle
#

lmfao

#

but basically yeah can the 40k team be a bit more creative please, whip Jes Goodwin a bit for more designs you hacks

dusk patrol
storm jungle
#

My Phoenix King, Malekith has hit a second tower...

river walrus
#

Ulgo kill elf

#

Is good yes?

viral halo
#

Love lethal weapon

#

I need whatever Mel Gibson was drinking when he left those voicemails to get through the day

green loom
#

Rare popular art post

dusk patrol
#

Next to Alec Baldwin’s famous audio drama “The Thoughtless Little Pig”

viral halo
#

Remember when David hasselhof was lambasted for drunkenly eating a cheeseburger on his floor but woody allen got away with fucking and marrying his DAUGHTER

dusk patrol
#

I think the issue is we had hopes for Hasselhof

#

It’s like how you always have that loser mooch in the family who is never gonna go anywhere but if you got a B in college it’s the end of the world

viral halo
#

Yea but he was in the spongebob movie

dusk patrol
#

His career is actually insanely good ngl

viral halo
#

I miss college every day

dusk patrol
#

His Jekyll and Hyde I think it was performance is amazing

#

And hes got some banger rock songs too

green loom
#

They're doing a uhh

#

Documentary

#

On Christopher Lee

dusk patrol
#

Christopher Lees career is absolutely wild

dusk patrol
#

And life in general

green loom
#

Beyond the wild shit we don't know about the guy basically caused the creation of metal

dusk patrol
#

Was a spy during World War II, super successful actor, probably killed a few people, released a metal album in his 90s, personally met Tolkien and was his choice for Gandalf

#

Was the inspiration for Bond

green loom
#

Was in a Marquis de Sade erotic movie

#

Descendant of charlemagne

storm jungle
#

If theres a real life vampire its him

#

absolute class of a gentleman too

viral halo
river walrus
#

Saruman the stupid

dusk patrol
#

Also how does he look older when he was 22 than when he was in the bond movie

storm jungle
#

i too would like to play a dude called Scaramanga

dusk patrol
#

I always wanted a midget sidekick when I was younger

storm jungle
#

mood tbh

dusk patrol
#

Because of that movie

#

The actor who played Knick knack also had a wild life

#

Dude partied hard

#

Iirc Peter Dinklage did a movie about him

green loom
arctic talon
green loom
#

Apparently he didn't know about the movie just agreed to sit down and read extracts in an armchair, and was then edited in KEKW_ogryn

#

What other wild actors are there

dusk patrol
#

Mickey Rooney and not in a fun way

#

Dude got married 8 times

#

Cheated on all of them

#

Idk what the point was even fuck me man just go bang a bunch of women

#

Why would you even wanna be married that many times

green loom
#

Maybe he just really likes wedding cake

radiant lance
marble sierra
river walrus
#

Luv me lil uns

tough haven
#

Luv me lil uns
Luv me Emprah
‘Ate ‘eretics
‘Ate ‘zee-nose
‘Ate ‘daemons
‘Ate shouties (ain’t ‘eretickle, just don’t like ‘em)
Simple as

lunar harness
#

ken sama would be excited as hell for that game

#

tragically he perished defending an traditional japanese inn in Osaka from a deadly tsunami

#

RIP ken sama

plush mason
#

i hate people like that, AC has never been historically accurate

#

not once

#

hell the only thing that makes it a "historical fiction" is the fact actual historical people are in it

#

beyond that everything is completely fictional

bronze tinsel
#

even the first Assassin’s Creed was extremely historically inaccurate.

plush mason
#

yup

#

idk why some people see the words "historical fiction" and assume the work will be mostly historical

#

most times historical fiction is 90% fiction

#

the only requirements for something to be a historical fiction is it includes the names and likenesses of historical figures

#

fucking Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter is a historical fiction

queen laurel
plush mason
#

ikr

#

so fucking annoying

#

it honestly feels like if someone made a movie about Alexander the great fighting alien zombie lizards on planet X in the year 5550 there would be some people that think it actually happened

gentle drift
#

You folks are telling me George Washington didn't work with a native American man and found a mystical artifact that showed him becoming a tyrannical king.

Like that... that didn't happen?

plush mason
#

lmao

celest dome
#

What about Lincoln killing Vampires ?

plush mason
#

its a movie

bold wren
#

I can see why mutants are hated. Then we get resident evil biological terrorism.

#

We do not want biological terrorism added onto the list of atrocities humanity has commited do we now.

plush mason
#

isnt one of the goto exterminatus methods literally to virus bomb the planet from orbit?

bold wren
#

I mean that's chemical warfare.

plush mason
#

ofc like half the imperium's arsenal are literally war crimes

plush mason
bold wren
#

But I mean experiments like resident evil and monster mutants.

#

Those are strictly banned for reason.

plush mason
#

oh thats just the norm for the admech

bold wren
#

I mean Space Marines exist.

#

And they're abominations.

plush mason
#

yeah posthuman freaks

bold wren
#

I mean they might have the human appearance but they just have leg extension surgeries and new organs.

plush mason
#

a space marine is just an improved fallout super mutant

bold wren
#

Frank Horrigan is pretty powerful

#

And plasma weapons in fallout are far more developed then 40k.

#

Which is funny to think about.

plush mason
#

improved as in a better process is used to make them and they arent quite as insane

bold wren
#

Frank was special.

#

He became a mutant but it instead made him smarter, and stronger.

#

A super mutant in power armor is quite terrifying.

plush mason
#

yeah

#

wasnt Frank the only real success of that program?

bold wren
#

Yes shame he died.

#

But that was more he died on his own terms.

#

I mean being hit with a gauss rifle would tear apart even a space marine.

#

They might be powerful but a well placed shot and bam goes your head.

#

Enclave had advanced power armor systems in lore maybe in game they're weak. They have a major weakspot yes, but also being a mutant adds onto his durability.

#

And knowing the Enclave they probably knew of such weak spots.

winter vessel
#

I miss the Enclave, which has been said millions of times now, yes

bold wren
#

Or you end up like kat and get a needle through the head.

plush mason
#

btw mutant and super mutant are 2 completely different things, the supers where made intentionally where as the mutant are just the result of the bombs

bold wren
#

He was a green skinned mutant. Some super mutants were smart.

#

There is several examples of intelligent super mutants. Though one is schizophrenic.

plush mason
#

ofc

#

im just saying they are vastly different

winter vessel
bold wren
#

Or vault dwellers.

plush mason
#

supers are pre-nuke and mutants are post

bold wren
#

Fawkes was successful because he was from a vault like the master.

winter vessel
#

Aw man, 87 was awful

bold wren
#

And no super mutants are pre and post war.

#

As there was still Mariposa remember.

plush mason
#

where they still doing the super soldier program post war?

bold wren
#

The pan immunity project was meant to protect against Chinese bio-weapons but the U.S military took over and made it a super human project.

plush mason
#

yup

#

because the miltiary loves them some super soldiers

winter vessel
bold wren
#

But the Institute, Enclave, and U.S Military all had access to super mutants.

#

I mean we have the master who turned people into super mutants and then Vault-Tec with 87.

winter vessel
#

It’s bad enough The Master is responsible for the creations of Centaurs. But then having seen them up close when playing for New Vegas for the first time, was the rare instance I said “Ew” out loud multiple times.

bold wren
#

Well 2077 was the last experiments but Mariposa was after the bombs dropped.

#

And scientists continued after the bombs dropped so the Brotherhood dropped by and killed them all because it was awful the experiments.

#

Until the later projects, and in West Virginia West Tec who were early variant of super mutants. But the Institute, and Enclave are the most recent experiments with fev to make super mutants.

dusk patrol
#

No one else in his vault ended up like him

#

He’s a freak accident which we’ve seen before

#

Erickson is another example of some sort of freak accident causing a super mutant to become smarter and more aware

snow fern
#

Fawkes is essentially the only smart east coast super mutant

#

As opposed to west coast were it’s more 50/50

#

Unless you’re a nightkin, which will just cause you to lose all your brains and turn blue due to Stealth Boy overuse.
Why has Stealth Boy addiction never been a thing in Fallout?(mechanically)

crisp heath
#

We don’t use it NEARLY as much as they do

#

They are effectively always invisible

rocky gale
#

In the original Fallout the Nightkin weren't blue or insane due to Steathboy usage, that wasn't a thing until New Vegas which was over 120 years later, so it implies that you need to be using Stealthboys for a very long time before you start to see these kinds of effects.

queen laurel
#

so i'm pretty sure most of them are fine

orchid lark
#

Hey more fallout talk

#

Again

rocky gale
# snow fern As opposed to west coast were it’s more 50/50

The differing intelligence in West Coast mutants is typically due to the difference between Gen 1 Mutants and Gen 2, Gen 1 were made by the Master using a "perfected" strain of FEV and Vault Dwellers since they had the best compatibility, whereas Gen 2 were made by the Enclave using strains of FEV they recovered from Mariposa after it's destruction and regular Wastelanders which led to dumber mutants.

orchid lark
#

For some reason

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

Motherfucker he wasnt kind to himself when he grabbed the fucking fancy lads snacks

frosty stag
orchid lark
#

Fat Fuck Boone

#

Im not gonna lie, I think this mod was like when the game was in its second year on steam

frosty stag
#

Damn

#

When did nv come out again?

pine wedge
#

1997

frosty stag
#

Damn

#

I was

#

-9

#

I think

bold wren
#

2010

frosty stag
#

That feels wrong

frosty stag
bold wren
#

It was 2010 that was og fallout

frosty stag
#

I was 4

bold wren
#

Original fallout is 1997.

frosty stag
#

Damn

pine wedge
#

no original fallout is 1897, NV is 1997 to commemorate the 100th anniversary.

frosty stag
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So glad that nothing came inbetween 2 and 3

pine wedge
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know your history guys smh

frosty stag
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What

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Was fallout the first video game ever?

queen laurel
frosty stag
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So glad it went straight from 2 to 3 with no other games

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(I hate tactics and BoS)

pine wedge
frosty stag
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Wait wasn’t nintendo smth else before videojames

orchid lark
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Cards

frosty stag
orchid lark
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The oldest video game in the world is funnily enough also has the best graphics technically

frosty stag
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Pong

orchid lark
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Tennis For Two

frosty stag
orchid lark
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And it was rendered in Vectors instead of shitty pixels.

frosty stag
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Wowie

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Videojames lore

orchid lark
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Mothefucker said pong

pine wedge
frosty stag
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Fair enough

frosty stag
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I thought it was

orchid lark
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I literally just said Tennis For Two

frosty stag
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Pong rip-off before pong was even made smh

pine wedge
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tennis for two
look inside
it's just tennis, which is a two-player sport by default

staregryn

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dumb name.

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pong was better

orchid lark
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Apple was a game dev company before becoming a rival to microsoft

pine wedge
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and don't start with that "but tennis can also be played with doubles" shit, nobody cares about doubles.

frosty stag
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I’ve never played tennis

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Why cant it be tennis for 1

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Whats the community like

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Are there sweats?

orchid lark
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There is squash

frosty stag
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Squash?

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Like the food?

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OH

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I remember that

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I think

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Thats the tennis vs ai but irl

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Cuz its a wall

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Im so tired

pine wedge
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Hahahaha

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Yeah but even squash is usually played with two people, using the wall as part of the playing field

frosty stag
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Fuck